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Futurama to be Resurrected?

KingDaveRa writes "Futurama could follow in the footsteps of Family Guy and re-enter production more than two years after it was axed. The animated series, brainchild of Simpsons creator Matt Groening, ended after four produced seasons amid lackluster ratings and broken scheduling on broadcast network Fox." From the Reuters article: "Reps for 20th Century Fox have declined to comment on the news, but Variety says initial negotiations have begun. If revived, it's unclear exactly which network would air the new episodes. While Fox housed the original series, the show found new life once reruns began showing on the Cartoon Network. Comedy Central subsequently snapped up the off-air rights and will exclusively air the repeats beginning in 2008. " A follow-up to Groening and Cohen's recent comments.

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  1. futurama by ducatier · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good news everybody!

    1. Re:futurama by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Execubot rolls dice)

      Executive Beta: "Groening Cartoons Are Back!"

      Ahhh, so many memories, so many strange fluids gushing out of patients' bodies....

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    2. Re:futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Eh, I think you mean "Good news, everyone!"

    3. Re:futurama by dpille · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ahhh, so many memories

      *Pushes button* And now they're gone.

  2. I'm axing a question by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Futurama could follow in the footsteps of Family Guy and re-enter production more than two years after it was axed.

    Well, i'm waiting... what did they ax it?

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    1. Re:I'm axing a question by systemic+chaos · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're obviously used to ancient pronunciations, like when you say Christmas instead of Xmas.

    2. Re:I'm axing a question by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it was because of people like me.

      They kept moving it around and putting it in times like after football games. I never knew if it was on or not, and just couldn't keep up with it. I'd set the VCR and it might or might not get it, even if it were on -- or might get the first x minutes of it because the game delayed it. I'd set the VCR for longer time, but that didn't always work because there were other shows I'd tape.

      So, after a while, I couldn't tell if it was on or not and, after one time where it wasn't on for several weeks, I thought it was cancelled. I don't watch a lot of tv, so I wouldn't see ads for it, even if they were shown.

      If Fox had just given that (and Family Guy) a real timeslot where you could see it every week, maybe they'd have made more money off it.

      But, then again, this is the network that told Joss Whedon they were going to start showing Firefly without the pilot movie, then couldn't figure out why it got low ratings and also cancelled John Doe after one season.

      I avoid shows on Fox (and anything on sci-fi other than Stargate and Galactica for the same reasons) because I know if it is at all interesting, it'll take 2nd billing to all the crap they *think* will get high ratings, they'll never give it a real chance or promote it much then wonder why nobody watches and cancel it.

      If networks want to play games like that, I've got other things to do in life. I'll wait and catch the series in re-runs or buy it on DVD so the producers and not a crappy network (like Fox or SciFi) gets money from it.

    3. Re:I'm axing a question by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      that was fucking stupid.

      Whereas your post was a model of brilliance, wit and insight.

      News flash: his post was not intended to be a model of brilliance, wit, or insight.

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  3. What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by Spazntwich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck them. It's a pity Fox ends up with such draconian ownership of shows, or Groening could have brought new Futurama episodes to a better network. Now he's once again at the mercy of their idiotic policy on show cancellations.

    1. Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by generic-man · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What other network would have picked up Futurama to begin with? The show's not exactly cheap to make, and Groening already had an in with Fox.

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    2. Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't get me started on Fox's cancellatino policies. I can't count how many times the Simpsons Halloween episode has not aired until after the TV season was already over, and of course by that time, they've already cut scenes and are running it as a rerun (even though it was never run before). It's always annoying when they show you a teaser clip to advertise the show, and that clip didn't make it through the rerun editing.
      Or how about how they always pre-empt shows on Sunday evenings because of some dumb sports game that runs long. Hint, hint FOX. Sports games ALWAYS run long. Why don't you schedule some crap that nobody wants to watch so you can preempt that instead of the Simpsons.

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    3. Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not just Fox. I hate that about TV...A lot of times a good show targeted toward a niche viewership won't make it on a regular primetime network, but WILL make it on a network geared toward that niche. But networks camp on their rights to the show until its too late to make more. I always find that to be infuriating, especially since they kneejerk kill shows after two and three episodes these days.

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    4. Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by Rei · · Score: 2, Funny

      Things are going to be different this time. Before, Fox was demanding and possessive. But now, it wants them to do stuff and stay with them all the time.

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    5. Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yeah. I sent a letter reaming one of my local stations for preempting the first twenty minutes of a movie. They could easily have reduced commercials to make up the time, but didn't. The station didn't even have the guts to respond.

      Here's a hint to programming managers.... Scheduling a sports event is a lot simpler than you think.

      Step 1: block an extra hour for the sports event.
      Step 2: book sports guests to fill that hour.
      Step 3: when (not if) the game runs over, trim the time per person.
      Step 4: if it runs -really- long, cut entire interviews.
      Step 5: since you've probably paid to have interviews with those folks, tape the interviews off-air at the end.
      Step 6: schedule a regular sports follow-up show later in the week and use the interviews taped after the game.

      My suspicion is that the people doing the scheduling are just clueless. As I said in a brief speech to a room full of network execs, TV personalities, and communications faculty a few years ago, when you pay people peanuts like most TV stations do, the best and brightest tend to seek careers elsewhere.

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  4. My Little Girl Rejoices by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Funny
    My three year-old daughter loves Futurama. Her favorite character? Bender, naturally. She would see a commercial or the DVD set in the store and shout, "Look, daddy! It's Bender!" Gratefully, she does omit the, "Bite my shiny metal ass."

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    1. Re:My Little Girl Rejoices by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gratefully, she does omit the, "Bite my shiny metal ass."

      What's your daughter doing with a shiny metal ass?

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  5. how not to attract an audience by ChipMonk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    lackluster ratings and broken scheduling on broadcast network Fox.

    How much did the latter cause the former?

    1. Re:how not to attract an audience by default+luser · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't worry, this is the same retarded channel that cuts longer anime series like Full-Metal Alchemist and Samurai Champloo into two. They leave a LONG 6-month hiatus between them with only a week's worth of promos before they start picking things back up.

      And since I don't watch promos, I have no idea, really. If I didn't have Tivo, I would have missed the start of new episodes completely.

      I like to point out that Adult Swim is currently whining about their poor numbers for Saturday night, even though they are showing new episodes. Of course, this wouldn't have anything to do with cutting series in half and leaving people hanging.

      Don't worry, they treat all shows EQUALLY SHITTY. I'm amazed they get any viewers at all, it's easier to find a Ronco infomercial than find where the fuck in the lineup Adult Swim moved your favorite show this week.

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  6. Cue comments... by maynard · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...about the resurrection of Farscape and Firefly for an "F" trifecta!!!

    1. Re:Cue comments... by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 4, Funny

      And while Claudia Black is hot there's no amount of her naked hugging a dance pole that could get me to watch it.

      There's defintely an amount of naked hugging a dance pole that could get me to watch it, and I eagerly await the experiments to quantify this amount.

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  7. Re:get some priorities, people! by Spad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Futurama is being resurrected and you're talking about Ariel Sharon?! You disgust me!

  8. Sunday? by OakDragon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They needn't bother airing it on Sunday again, unless it's late. Football will just roll over and kill it like it did before, and like it's doing to "King of the Hill" now.

    I wish they could just resurrect shows on Cartoon Network. Unfortunately, that's probably not possible.

    1. Re:Sunday? by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wish they could just resurrect shows on Cartoon Network. Unfortunately, that's unpossible.

      fixed that for you.

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  9. Cool, but... by Jethro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As cool as more Futurama episodes would be, I think the last episode was just perfect as a Last Episode. In fact, some of the almost-last episodes were so good that I just dont' think it could be anything but a step back.

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    1. Re:Cool, but... by RPoet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the episode was carefully crafted to be "good enough" for a final episode, but also appeal to both fans and Fox that cancelling the show would be immature. Witness the last line of the last episode: "Please don't stop playing, Fry. I wanna hear how it ends."

      There are many, many more stories screaming to be told about the Futurama universe. Fox were fools to stop playing. We wanna hear how it ends!

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    2. Re:Cool, but... by Jethro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, I'm sure there's a lot more places the show could've gone. Totally.

      But the show's too linear, I think. I dunno. It's not like I /wouldn't/ watch new ones and love them, I'm just happy with how it is now. And frankly I dont' trust Fox not to ruin it again! There were SO many episodes on the DVDs that I'd never seen despite my best efforts (ok, TiVO's best efforts).

      Family Guy is a show that can just pick up wherever it dropped off. Futurama, I'm not sure. And I say this because (in my opinion) Futurama is a MUCH higher-quality show.

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  10. Life... by pizza_milkshake · · Score: 4, Funny

    Life is hilariously cruel.

  11. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by Spad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Compared to the Simpsons at Season 4 or the Simpsons now? I've watched all of season 17 of the Simpsons so far and it's just not funny any more - it's become a vaguely amusing sitcom.

    Maybe if Futurama is brought back and becomes a sucess, Fox can finally kill off the dying cash cow that is the Simpsons and put it out of its misery.

  12. You can bite my shiny metal ass! by mmell · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Ariel Sharon, while an important element of Middle-East politics (even World politics), is not intriguing to a technology-oriented crowd such as exists here on /.

    We have our priorities here . . . if we cared about politics, trapped miners or egregious violations of law by our elected officials, we'd all be surfing CNN.

    You must be related to Zapf Brannigan!

  13. Re:atleast they realize their mistakes by Asakusa · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's "Arrested Development"?

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  14. Please include in any contract... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a provision stating that Futurama will NEVER be scheduled anywhere near the timeslot of a God damned football game.

    I don't know how many times I sat down to watch a TiVo'd episode of Futurama, only to discover that what was recorded was the last 20 minutes of some stupid NFL game.

    THAT is why it got poor ratings, because the FOX idiots stuck it in the 7pm Sunday death slot.

    ~Philly

    1. Re:Please include in any contract... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I, and probably every other Futurama fan, have nothing against football. Fox could show 23 hours of football a day for all I care. But they should not be scheduling a first-run TV show to run at time when it's usually the middle of the third quarter. Fox programming schedulers are either evil or idiots. Probably both. They were probably punishing Matt Groening for being smarter than all Fox management put together, even though Fox would have died in the late 80's without him (and "Married with Children").

      However, I can also say that the NFL and Fox have gone out of their way to make a game with 60 minutes of play time stretch to something like 3 or 4 hours of clock time. I'm sure I can speak for many football fans when I suggest that they could try to speed up the game a little bit. Of course, they will have to get used to the idea of having a signal-to-noise ratio (i.e., actual-clock-ticking-down time to lame-car-commercials-and-inane-banter time) something bigger than 1 to 4.

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  15. Family Guy, Futurama... by BlueThunderArmy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Here's hoping for new life for Arrested Development in 2008!

    Fox could save themselves a lot of trouble by just not cancelling these shows in the first place. Low ratings for a critically-acclaimed show? How about better promotion and not jacking around with the schedule? The word-of-mouth behind these programs makes people want to watch them, but that doesn't do much good if new viewers can't find the proper time slot.

  16. hmm by engagebot · · Score: 3, Funny

    "If only there was some way to know which can of slurm has the winning bottlecap..."

    "wait, what did you say? I was too busy using this ray gun to look inside of stuff."

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  17. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by MilenCent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Robot Chicken's pretty good (and Venture Bros. is awesome) but I tend to think Adult Swim's Flash shows are overrated. You can only take that kind of absurdist comedy so far, and some of them (12 Oz. Mouse) are actually painful to watch. I wonder if anyone will remember them in ten years, as there's a good chance that once the novelty's worn off, they'll go downhill fast.

    But I'm pretty stoked about the prospect of Futurama returning.

  18. TV execs don't have a clue by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Firefly, Farscape, Family guy, Futurama

    What do these shows have in common? These are great shows that were killed before their time due to poor decisions of TV execs. Everything from showing the series out of order to playing musical timeslots to abruptly killing the series without advanced warning, these shows were actively campainged against by the execs ( although I can't imagine why you'd want to mess up a money maker ).

    This is why I don't watch TV anymore ( in fact, I don't own a TV ). I purchase DVDs, and I get to watch things ad free through liberal use of dvd decrypter and dvd shrink.

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    1. Re:TV execs don't have a clue by fumblebruschi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually Farscape was killed because the parent company of the Sci-Fi network went bankrupt, and Farscape cost too much to make. At least they wound up the story in the two-part movie (wich I thought was pretty good.)

      That's one more reason I thought Firefly would be a great pickup for the SF Network--not only does it have a pre-made audience, it would be cheaper to make. Eight regular characters and only a half-dozen sets, plus one or two CGI shots an episode, and you can come in under budget pretty easily, I would think.

      Unfortunately, Fox still owns the broadcast contract, and has shown no willingness to let someone else buy it from them. They only let Paramount make the movie because it wasn't TV competition--and even then they wouldn't let them use the word "Firefly" in the title or the ads. In all seriousness, I think the weakest point of the movie (which I thought was really great otherwise) was the title, which I think really hurt it at the box office. Who would go see an action movie called "Serenity", if they hadn't seen the show? They would have been much better off calling it something like "Captain Reynolds Versus the Cannibal Space Pirates", or the eqivalent.

    2. Re:TV execs don't have a clue by Damek · · Score: 3, Funny

      Their titles all contain vowels! ...

      What, you thought I was going to jump on the "they all contain F!" bandwagon? Pfft.

    3. Re:TV execs don't have a clue by ewanrg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You said:
      "Firefly, Farscape, Family guy, Futurama
      What do these shows have in common?"

      They all begin with F.

      Seriously. Think about it. They're on the Fox network (begins with F) and they began with F, all of them. Doesn't it seem like a conspiracy to you?

  19. Dissapointing by fermion · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I find the 'new' family guy was a big let down. I think they would have done better to put all the effort into American Dad and just let Family Guy rest in peace.

    There are certainly benifits to bringing old shows back, mostly a known audience and fewer development costs, but in terms of entertainment I find that these shows add very little.

    I enjoyed Family Guy, but face the facts. It was cancelled because it pushed too hard (When you wish upon a Weintstein), and clearly they show was nuetered before it was let back on the air.

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    1. Re:Dissapointing by killermookie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My view is opposite. Yes, I agree that Family Guy isn't as strong before it was cancelled, but I seriously can't stand American Dad. I've completely given up on American Dad and no longer watch it. Frankly, I'd rather that they stop American Dad and focus their attention and strength on Family Guy.

  20. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by Gulthek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I respectfully disagree. I place Futurama above Family Guy, Simpsons, ATHF, Sealab, Robot Chicken, and Home Movies. Superior to all in animation, writing, acting, and plot. And it had an amazing mix of emotional moments and hilarious comedy. And an absolutely stunning number of tie-ins, in-jokes, frame-jokes, etc.

  21. Why wasn't Futurama First? by CMiYC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't understand how Family Guy was re-lauched when Futurama wasn't. While I enjoy Family Guy, I think Futurama is an overall better show. The humor is more developed, the artwork is cleaner, and the concept is fun. Family Guy just feels like a dumber Homer Simpson combined with acid flashbacks. Which I do find funny, but not mroe than Futurama. Granted, I'd like to see Bender and Stewie in a cameo scene. From each show, they are my favorite (if not the best) characters.

  22. what? by engagebot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "But honestly, it's not that good of a show. Compared to the Simpsons, it doesn't come close. Against Family Guy, it pales in comparison. And the other shows for that age range are Aquateen Hunger Force and Robot Chicken, which are much more interesting than Futurama."

    What are you talking about? So you like Family Guy and Simpsons better. So what? Have you flipped through your cable channels lately?

    Even if you like said shows better, Futurama is more than worth bringing back considering it's infinitely better than 99.5% of what's on tv.

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  23. Re:Woooo-Whoooo! by QuantaStarFire · · Score: 3, Funny
    Woooo-Whoooo!

    That's just air escaping from the folds of his fat!

  24. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by raoul666 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you think simpsons is better than futurama, I don't think you're getting most of the jokes. The simpsons, especially in recent years, is the cartoon for the masses. It reuses the same material time and time again. Futurama is the cartoon for nerds. The references, the science jokes, the time paradoxes, all make it an interesting intellectual viewing, while still being light enough to be enjoyable if you don't get them all.

    As for comparing it to family guy, I'd argue that the genre is so vastly different, it'd be similar to comparing classical and punk rock. I love both, family guy for the mindless craziness and belly laughs and futurama for the "oh...I get it...hehehehe" type.

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  25. The main question by Some_Llama · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is will the original writing staff be re-hired, this is what really made the episodes in the first place, I remember reading somewhere about the high number of PH.ds and MBAs they had working on the writing staff, not that degress automatically mean anything, but I thought it was interesting given the type of jokes that I would often laugh at but my wife would have no clue what was funny about them...

  26. Re:Evidently, you're in the minority. by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 2, Interesting
    see more of the antics of Frye, Leela, Bender and a cuddly alien that excretes spaceship fuel.

    what about the rest?

    Fry: What's so wonderful about Leela being normal? The rest of us aren't normal. And that's what makes us great. Like Dr. Zoidberg. He's a weird monster who smells like he eats garbage and does.
    Dr. Zoidberg: Damn right.
    Fry: And the professor's a senile amoral crackpot.
    Professor: Oyeeaii.
    Fry: Hermes is a Rastafarian accountant.
    Hermes: Tally me banana.
    Fry: Amy is a klutz from Mars.
    Amy: Whoops.
    Professor: And Fry, you've got that brain thing.
    Fry: I already did!

  27. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by dancingmad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think you're very much mistaken.

    Simpsons has been on a very steady decline since about the time Futurama cmae out (even before than, perhaps). The SImpsons was very much running out of steam and while Futurama channeled some of its style and wit, it also brought a lot of fresh ideas to the table. I feel like the first few episodes are a bit slow, but after that I feel pretty much the entire run compares very favorable with even the Pax Simpsona (say seasons two through six).

    As far as Family Guy is concerned, during both program's initial runs I might ahve agreed with you. But especially when they are put back to back, it is obvious how much intellectual humor is in Futurama. It ages well becaues in someways it is a standard sitcom, but with a sharp sense of humor and intellectual writing. Family Guy mostly relies on shock value and easy jokes. While they were funny, its not a show I personally can watch over and over again (and this is discounting the post cancellation Family Guy, which lacks even the heart of the original). Family Guy simply does not stack up well - Futurama's humor is smarter, better written, and ages much better. Care was taken with Futurama and it shows.

    Furthermore, Futurama had some of the best animation on TV. Unlike the poor art of Family Guy (the creator of Ren and Stimpy lambasted FG for it's art style, saying any 10 year old can do it, according to FG's wikipedia page), Aqua Teen (which I love, but still, is no prize pig as far as animation is concerned), Futurama was extemely well done and even the first season looks good these days.

    The Simpsons is a bit of a send up of the family sitcoms of its periods, while Futurama riffs on Friends and Seinfeld style shows of the 1990s. The sense of humor is far more bizarre, but its grounding in some sort of reality means it pairs up really well on adult swim with shows like Aqua Teen.

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  28. If I Only Had... by SenorPez · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... my Fing-Longer, I could activate the What-If machine, and see what would happen if FOX brought back Futurama.

    Instead, I'll just enjoy the syndication, instead.

  29. Re:I'm all for it ... by Sheetrock · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, it's kind of a bummer that the only choice for right-wing comedy on the air right now is Fox News.

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  30. Motivation for Groening by thaerin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A Futurma comeback has been mentioned before and every time I've found myself thinking "Oh how kick ass is this gonna be?!!!" But then I have to wonder if it'll be the same Futurama that we've all come to love. Besides a heaping helping of cash, what else is there to motivate Groening into continuing the series? He's always been vocal about his dismay of the Fox execs cancelling the show in the first place. That seems like a big chip to carry on one's shoulders, though I suppose a few extra 0's on a paycheck can put a smile on anybody's face. I just hope his love of the characters and fanbase are enough to ensure the series returns to it's former glory.

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    1. Re:Motivation for Groening by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "what else is there to motivate Groening into continuing the series? He's always been vocal about his dismay of the Fox execs cancelling the show in the first place."

      True, but he's found love on a Time-Warner owned network. I think [as] has given allowed Groening to give Fox their comeuppance and forced Fox to approach the negotiations with some humility.

  31. Re:Eh, it's not worth it. by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 2
    I hate statements which just absolutely state that one form of entertainment is better than another.

    Personally, I prefer Futurama over every show that you list there. The only one that comes close is the Simpsons, and that's tough to judge since the Simpsons has 15 (?) seasons worth of material.

    Futurama was a strange show. It was always hilarious - but sometimes it was intelligent (Announcer: "And we have a quantum finish!" Professor: "No fair! You changed the outcome of the race by measuring it!"), sometimes it was WAY out there, sometimes it was sad and touching (I dare you to watch the episode with Fry's dog and not tear up a little). And on top of all that, sometimes it was actually REALLY good sci-fi! That's a very rare thing on TV.

    Also Zoidburg was friggin hilarious. All he had to do was walk on the screen and I was already laughing.

  32. Re:futurama... to smart for mass consumption by dfn5 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm afraid Futurama has just too much geek humor for it to last very long. For instance

    Speaker: And the winner is ... Number 3, in a quantum finish.
    Farnsworth: No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!

    I'm sure the masses just don't get this kind of stuff. I'm surprised it made it as long as it did. But here's hoping *Raises glass of Benderbraü*

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  33. Network failures, shark jumping by Boss+Sauce · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is further evidence that the major US TV networks have lost touch with the way technology has changed how people consume their media. Futurama gained a huge audience on Cartoon Network because they can show a few episodes a day, so it's not tough for people to catch one. The way the networks operate, there's a tiny window of opportunity for watching a show, so it's very hard for people to "catch on" to something. A few things the networks could do to make sure good shows get a real chance:
    * When a show's schedule changes, let one last show air in the old time slot, with "we're moving!" notices every time the show goes to or comes back from commercial.
    * Support their own programming by cutting down on informercials and re-airing episodes of prime time shows late and early, with "if you missed it..." plugs.
    * Put them online or on iTunes and let people share them x number of times, so they can spread shows around.

    (As for Arrested Development, I love the show and have watched every episode numerous times. Afternoon Deelite is still hard to beat. At the same time, I wonder what kind of staying power it has or if it *should* go on for more than two seasons-- a lot happens on the show, so why does the end have to be doom and gloom? I'd love to a LITERAL shark-jumping moment (maybe Buster, in a leather jacket, loses a foot?) in the second to last episode, with Henry Winkler there to save the day (and get hired back as the family attorney).)

  34. Re:futurama... to smart for mass consumption by Traiklin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you forgot their timeslot to.

    Sundays at 7 (6 central), perfect time for a show to fail, seeing as how Football always seems to run over that time.

    Let's not forget fox's wonderfull advertising of the show aswell, I saw all of 2 commercials for the show during it's 4 year run.

  35. Reporters... Don't They Know Anything? by Evil+Closet+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the Article:
    The series revolved around Fry, a pizza delivery boy, who is accidentally frozen for a thousand years. He wakes up in the year 3000 and befriends sassy one-eyed pilot Leela and cranky robot Bender, who both work for an intergalactic delivery service run by a distant nephew of Fry's.

    Leela worked at the Chrionics lab, getting her job with the delivery service at the same time as Fry.
    Bender was ending his carrier as a bender, rather drastically, when he met Fry. Also joining Planet Express at the same time as Fry and Leela.

    My last shred of faith is shattered. How are we ever to trust the news media again!?

  36. You poor unfortunate man by Excen · · Score: 2, Funny

    My three year-old daughter loves Futurama. Her favorite character? Bender, naturally.
     
    Bender. Bender Bending Rodriguez. The whoring, hard drinking, foul-mouthed bending robot. I put the over/under at 3 months past her 18th birthday when she first dances on a brass pole for dollar bills.

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    "No beer until you finish your tequila!" -Leela's Dad
  37. Avoid Fox like the Plague by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If Matt Groening had any brains, he would avoid Fox like the plague. Same goes to other innovative show creators like Joss Whedon.

    I don't know what goes on over there at Fox, but how many decent shows have been axed for no good reason and others left on inperpetuity. Are you telling me that Kind of the Hill has had better ratings then Firefly?

    Fox doesn't realize the benefit of a small but loyal fan base. Even if shows like Firefly or Futurama only have a few million viewers, they are usually viewers that tune in faithfuly every week. With that kind of dedicated fan base, you can focus more targetted advertising to a generally similar group of viewers. This opposed to a shows like American Idol that, while having 20+ million viewers, are so varied and wishy washy (only watching the show until their favourite contestant is axed) that you can't find any common advertising ground to target the viewers. In the end, you can actually get more money for advertising slots for cult shows like X-Files, Buffy, and Futurama because advertisers know there is are at least a few million Geeks faithfully watching every week that probably would want to buy some electronic underwear with PDA capabilities.

    But Fox, in general, has been abysmal in terms of promoting innovative programming and instead dumping tired cliche sitcoms (at a time when sitcoms are dropping faster then flies on crap) and keeping long running and tiresome franchises like the Simpson's and King of the Hill on forever. Fox is realizing they are losing an audience, and so now have to rely on pulling up past successes in order to fill their timeslots.

    But if Matt had a brain, he would can the Simpsons and bring Futurama to another network and end any relationship with Fox. Even if Futurama was reserected, Fox will probably keep it going sporadically until they find some other Malcom in the Middle, Married with Children, Simpson's, King of the Hill, American Dad, War At Home clone devoid of talent to replace it.

    Quick poll. Does anybody still watch Fox these days?

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    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
  38. Hurray! by QuantumPion · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now Zoidberg is the popular one!

  39. Stick it at 8:30 PM slot! by antdude · · Score: 2

    Dump that lame comedy show (forgot its name). Put it after The Simpsons and before Family Guy. 8:00 to 9:00 is now Matt Groening's hour. Also, you get two hours of animation domination on Sunday nights! Perfecto. :)

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    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  40. Don't Worry. by Farrside · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fox would never allow something like that to happen.

  41. You got that right... by Otto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If Fox had just given that (and Family Guy) a real timeslot where you could see it every week, maybe they'd have made more money off it.

    Absolutely. Fox bungled Futurama like no other show before. Even my Tivo couldn't keep up with the continously changing schedule. The reason it got low ratings is that absolutely nobody knew when it was on.

    When it started getting aired on Adult Swim, I was finally able to see a whole season or two of shows that I have never seen before. Not for lack of trying, mind you, it was just impossible to know when they aired them.

    Family Guy, however, I never did understand why they cancelled it. It had a decent timeslot, and it was getting increasing numbers of viewers. They just shot it down before it built up a large audience. These days it seems like they cancel a show if it's not an instant hit, which is stupid, of course. Firefly was totally mishandled by airing the episodes wrong (you can't do that when there are story arcs and characters to be developed). They shot down Wonderfalls, a terrific show, after only 4 episodes that *nobody knew about* because they failed to advertise the thing!

    Fox just has the most amazing bunch of idiots running the network. It's simply incredible how dumb these decisions are.

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    - Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
  42. They'll have to re-hire a TON of people for this! by sgant · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, the voice talent alone. You have to get the people that do the voices of Philip J. Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Dr. Zoidberg, Zapp Brannigan, Leo Wong, and various other people. I mean that's 5 people right there you have to re-hire!

    Can they find all these guys again? They could be anywhere! They may all have scheduling conflicts or something...

    waiting for someone to state the obvious about this of course

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    "Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
  43. Re:futurama... too smart for mass consumption by Kankraka · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You've absolutely hit the nail on the head. I used to live (aswel as attend school) in a small town where... erm, the general population was as confused about anything beyond farming as Fry was when he witnessed his first game of Blurnsball. A friend of mine and I used to spend our spares in the "cafeteria" watching Futurama and just talking about whatever. Sometimes a few people would join us in watching Futurama and at every nerdy joke, or technical joke, or anything above and beyond the mainstream there failed to be anything out of them. Not even a snicker. Of course they got the slap stick side of it. If Fry got hit, burned by eating Bender's sterno-nicoise, or if Kif was forced to look up Brannigans, uhh skirt? Or if Kif falls off the roof after an Amazonian pokes at him.. They laugh. There were even people who called us losers for watching Futurama, because it wasn't funny. Regular people couldn't see the true hilarity of it. Part of me wishes new episodes would go straight to DVD instead of being aired on tv. No one can screw around with their timeslots then, those that truly appreciate the series will be able to watch them over and over again with no worry about a football game taking valuable Futurama-Time. I dunno, I'm kinda off on a tangent here. Fact is you've got it completely right, the humour is just too intelligent for the mainstream. Kind of saddening, isn't it.

  44. Re:HD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Then we'd finally be able to see Amy's obscene tattoo!

  45. Re:I'm all for it ... by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 2, Funny

    As long as it doesn't turn into a partisan political mouthpiece like "Family Guy" has. If I want to see one-sided political humor, I'll read "Doonesbury."

    You seem to have misspelled "American Dad" and "The Boondocks".

  46. It's like that old story by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Funny
    All this axing of shows, and then they come back with DVD sales, and then the people that axed them want to make them again. It keeps happening. It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for the winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. And also he got a race-car.

    Is any of this getting through to you?

  47. Actually it's just one dumb assistant... by mykepredko · · Score: 2, Funny

    that keeps getting told to get the "F outta here".

    myke

  48. Re:futurama... too smart for mass consumption by GrievousMistake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nonsense! Futurama is like Shakespeare and Ibsen; it works on all levels. Well, not quite like Ibsen, but still, I did read somewhere (here, I think) that while they do try to cram in as much "high-brow" jokes as possible, they won't let it detract from the story.
    Most of the humor in Futurama is of the "everybody gets it" variant. I can't immagine Zack Brannigan being anything less than hillarious even if you've never heard of Star Trek. And then you get the "No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!" lines that really are the icing on the cake, and makes Futurama rather unique in the field of humorous cartoons. Where else do you get pinball references, Titanic parodies, quantum physics jokes and booze and hookers in such a neat package?

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    In a fair world, refrigerators would make electricity.