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PS3 In U.S. In November?
Next Generation reports that yet another analyst sees the U.S. PS3 launch a ways off. A gent from the Pacific Crest Securities group forsees a 1M unit strong launch in the U.S. sometime in November, with a Japanese launch the summer before and an EU launch the spring after. From the article: "Despite speculation of high launch prices - some quoting a ludicrously high $700 mark - these numbers will certainly lead to severe shortages. Sony will struggle to meet retail demand with a million units at launch, and will face the same kind of criticism leveled at Microsoft if it fails to back the launch up with regular pre-Holiday shipments."
Interesting... a Q4 launch for the PS3 would give it a launch window within weeks of the Revolution. Could make for an interesting holiday season...
"...will face the same kind of criticism leveled at Microsoft if it fails to..."
Funny how Microsoft has become the Munson of the console world. Almost synonymous with sucking or failure.
If they minimize their shipments by avoiding doing something crazy like...oh...let's say giving away a PS3 every 10 minutes for a month. I guess the reality is that sort of scheme doesn't dent the overall shipments much. I think it will be tough for them to overcome the high start-up cost, and if the game offerings just aren't there at release it will be even less compelling to be an early adopter.
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"If they minimize their shipments by avoiding doing something crazy like...oh...let's say giving away a PS3 every 10 minutes for a month. I guess the reality is that sort of scheme doesn't dent the overall shipments much."
Crazy?
60*24*31/10 = around 4,000 Xbox360's. That is nothing compared to the demand. It was effective advertising for both Mountain Dew and the 360. There were some people with a few hundred caps they saved for one drawing.
speculative. Who are the sources for these analysts? I'll wait to hear from Sony, thanks.
I think we can all agree that the Xbox360 launch was dismal.
Hardware and software glitches, not enough stock, no real nex-generation games at launch and a lackluster Japan release along with rumours about when and how Microsoft will suppor HD-DVD all can be attributed to Microsoft rushing the Xbox360 out the door without proper testing and defining any real rollout plan.
If it takes Sony until November of this year to release the PS3, then if they are doing so to ensure a rock solid release with lots of really good software titles at the time of release, then by all means, take the time.
There is no real point for Sony to release the PS3 before the holiday season. Selling the PS3 in April or May of this year may generate a few million in quick sales, but sales will drop off until the holiday season anyways. Sony may be releasing that by waiting until he holiday season to drive up anticipation may help them gain record sales figures, especially if they can claim they could sell more units over Christmas then Xbox360 did last year.
In then end, I am in no real panic about when the PS3 will be released. Xbox360 isn't everything it was cracked up to be, and I can easily wait until the PS3 is released to make a final decision over which game unit to buy. By then, Nintendo should have offered their Revolution, so real comparison shopping can begin for this Christmas.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
I just wanted to let you know that you shouldn't buy Sony products because of rootkits and DRM. Instead you should buy open, hackable platforms like the Game Park GP2X and the Nintendo DS. Buy a Revolution, too.
Although I agree with your point, the GP2X isn't the isn't the best example to use right now.
Now then, if they were to include the updated source, that would be freaking sweet.
If Sony were to "wisen up" and open the platform of the PSP and PS3, the company would be killed by infighting. Sony is in the unique position of being both a device producer and a content producer. Sadly, in this case the content side of the business has almost total control over the device side of the business. This can be seen in the early digital media players that wouldn't play MP3s, and by exploit-laden CDs still in stores despite a recall. Indeed, the main problem for Sony is that the device side cannot pull itself out from the grip of the media side. Sony made a great piece of hardware with the PSP, but because of the content side's desire of creating a mobile video platform, the devices needs to stay locked-down and DRM'ed so that piracy is less of a worry.
The biggest problem Sony faces is itself, and it is a similar problem to what is faced by all device producers: Content producers understand neither the technology their content is played on nor the demands and wants of the buying public. It is not a question of "if" but "when" DRM methods will be cracked, and no movie or record executive will believe that fact. Until they do, we will continue to see DRM.
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Same with the dutch trams in amsterdam, some marketing genius at MS has deciced to allow MS OS to be used to display ads on LCD screens inside the trams. Good advertising for MS, their distinctive error messages seen by millions each day.
If you consider that other consoles including the often abused DS just run for months on end the constant problems with the 360 do not make me hopefull. Of course these were the very first units and are abused but still, it just doesn't look good.
But this argument is never going to be settled. Fanboys vs Fanboys. What one considers a must have game another considers a tired sequel.
By the end of this year we will know more.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
imho, Sony needs to give us some playable demos.
;)
I think *then*, the internet browsing public will know to (or not to) wait for the PS3 and buy an XBox 360 and the word will spread.
Similarly, I imagine a good Japanese release will slow down the American / European XBox 360 sales, so a delayed North America release wouldn't be the end of the world.
I think some solid realtime evidence is sorely needed to make the gamer/consumer think twice about blowing their console budget on the 360.
A demo of the online play would also be reassuring. If they have started working on that yet
People need a reason not to buy an XBox 360.
While geeks may be anti-Sony for the rootkit fiasco, one may also appreciate the PS3-Linux distro Sony has promised its users.
Seems to me that the Playsation team is giving coders/geeks just what they have been asking for.
Of course, the reality of this distro is yet to be seen.
The DS is strapped to a pedastal and has permanant power. If you let it hang loose it would walk out of the stores.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Sony is in the unique position of being both a device producer and a content producer? Say what? How is that unique? Last I checked, both Microsoft and Nintendo were doing the same thing. In fact, of the three, Nintendo is the one totally reliant on releasing their own content for their own devices. If anything, Sony is the most reliant on licensing fees for content developed outside of their own company.
There was a PS2 Linux distro as well. How many copies of it have you seen?
I used it briefly. All I did was play around, run a few OpenGL (iirc) demos and install mplayer on the thing.
This was never going to be a commercial success. It really was only aimed at people who wanted to dev on a PS2. I don't see any other reason to buy it!
It could only be bought online, if my memory serves me right.
The question is whether PS3 Linux will be aimed at the normal user or will it be something only advanced users can take advantage of?
As it will come with every HD, perhaps it really will be nice and polished for the average gamer. It would certainly be nice.
Ah, didn't realize you were talking about the particular DS in the gamestore you frequent. I thought you were refering to all DSs.
Also you should note that you can plug the DS in mid-gameplay and chage it without restarting the system.
Ultimately: wait until there's a game you want, and then buy the console.
Problem is when the game's developer isn't given the chance to work with the publisher and has to release the game online as freeware. This means that players have to buy an older revision of the console that's more likely to accept games not authorized by the console maker. Case in point: can one reliably find a PSP new in box with 2.00 firmware, the latest to have a semi-reliable crack?
one may also appreciate the PS3-Linux distro Sony has promised its users.
So why does the PSP community see firmware 1.51 and 2.01 released the week after an exploit is discovered, as well as Sony's official announcement of an anti-homebrew stance, instead of PSP Linux? And why isn't there a version of PS2 Linux for the slim PS2?
It would temporarily reduce demand for the Revolution while some choose PoS3 instead, so I'd have an easier time getting my console.. hmm..
I think we can all agree that there is almost nothing that we ALL agree on.
If it takes Sony until November of this year to release the PS3, then if they are doing so to ensure a rock solid release with lots of really good software titles at the time of release, then by all means, take the time.There is no real point for Sony to release the PS3 before the holiday season. Selling the PS3 in April or May of this year may generate a few million in quick sales, but sales will drop off until the holiday season anyways. Sony will release when they are ready. If they were ready they would have released alongside the Xbox360. But they aren't yet. Here's the real deal XBOX360 sales are higher than PS3 Sales at least and until after the PS3 ships. Funny thing I noticed during christmas though, Blue Hairs (No disrespect intended of course) were purchasing XBox 1 Forza Bundles because they were the only Xboxes in the store (Also the packaging was eerily similar to the 360). I don't think Microsoft wins this round but they are certainly not out as bad off as sega for the last couple of its hardware years. From every 360 game I've seen, (Not Screenies) The visuals and sound are incredible, I haven't actually been able to play one yet but I haven't heard any complaints from the kids crowded around the kiosk at the WalMart. Face it man, every Manufacturer wants that must have christmas gift and this year it was MS. Next year it will be Sony. Although I'm still pulling for the suprise upset from the big N.
There is no PS3 on my list this year. However, if the Revolution comes I'll cough up my dough.
(What a strange statement)
From all indications Live is a force to be reckoned with that Sony has zero interest in competing with, instead leaving it to developers. (They get points for including a browser in new PSPs and firmware.) In my view at least Nintendo and MS see the internet as a feature not as a burden.
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