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HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Coming Soon to PCs
An anonymous reader writes "A Yahoo! news piece has some sales details for the upcoming Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players. They also have some details on disc drives that read the new formats." From the article: "Sony has priced its first desktop computer that will have a Blu-ray Disc burner. The drive will be able to write to 25GB and 50GB BD-RE (rewritable) and BD-R (write once) discs. Sony will start selling 25GB BD-RE and BD-R discs in April for $20 and $25 respectively and 50GB capacity versions of the same discs later in the year for $48 and $60 respectively. The Vaio RC will be launched in 'early summer' and will cost around $2300. At the CeBIT show in Germany last week, Sony announced plans for a Vaio notebook with a Blu-ray Disc drive."
50GB capacity versions of the same discs later in the year for $48 and $60 respectively.
Is is just me that thinks selling media for 2x the cost of a hard drive (if you calculate $/gig) stupid?
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WTF?
4.7 GB for $0.30 or 25 GB for $20
Sounds alot like the price that DVD(+-)R media was introduced at. Part of me is cringing from sticer shock but realistically I know that in a few years they'll be in the sub $1.00 range when other manufacturers figure out how to make them.
My God! It's full of eval()'s.
Anyone know?
As long as the price stays like it is, I don't see much chance for this becoming popular at all. Why get a relatively easily destroyed or damaged storage medium when you can just as well back up on a hard disk for much less money?
Get the price down, then we can talk. But that's going to take two or three years, and who knows what flash storage size is possible by that time.
If the new generation of DVDs are designed to block copying, is the (HD/Blu-ray) DVD drive going to be directly connected to the video card, surpassing the CPU?
...all data written on Sony BD-RE and BD-R disks will transfer ownership to Sony. You must pay a monthly subscription fee to retain this data. All BD-R and BD-RE will be produced by sony, or a sony authorized distributor. No 3rd party will be allowed to create blank media for uses with any Sony(TM) Blu-Ray(TM) Drive(TM) without Sony's written consent, and giving up power of attorney to Sony to reflect the prices of recordable media. On a good note, Drives will cost $0.50 each. ^^^^^^^Sarcasm.... but I have a sad feeling that its not far off.
I want to see how much HD DVD-Rs cost. They are supposed to be manufactured on a very similar process as DVD-Rs... meaning they have the potential to be cheap. (the key selling point of HD DVD)
That sounds remarkably expensive.
I wonder what the new PS3 games are going to cost if the media itself is so expensive, not to mention a HDDVD movie!
Apart from DRM issues, would anyone be willing to pay that kind of premium? Or is all of this targetted for the corporate market?
Don't get me wrong, but if I could get my hands on an optical drive that can backup 50 gb of data that was economical ($5/disk would be ok), I would go for it.
Hmmm... I wonder how many mp3's I can fit onto one of those?
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
The drive will be able to write to 25GB and 50GB BD-RE (rewritable) and BD-R (write once) discs. Sony will start selling 25GB BD-RE and BD-R discs in April for $20 and $25 respectively
Why the hell didn't they call the rewriteable discs BD-RW?! Has anyone heard of the work "consistency"? Now I have to explain to everyone that BD-RE is like CD-RW or DVD-RW, but for Blue Ray. Great work on the customer confusion front!
"Blu-Ray Coming Soon to PCs" does it mean can be used under Linux?
I'm currently evaluating a Multimedia Linux named Tomahawk Desktop. It seems writing DVDs under Linux is seamless and second to none.
According to this previous post, Sony PlayStaion3 comes with Linux and Blu-Ray drives. Does this means Blu-Ray drives already can be used under Linux? Or does Linux require drivers for Blu-Ray?
Different technology so different material and production process so different prices (production cost is not the only parameter to determine sell price: offer/demand/strategy also influence the price).
The question then becomes: why buy writeonce while writemulitple is cheaper ? Well, sometimes people might want that the media won't be rewritten onto, I think.
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Just how many movies|video will we be able to cram on these things?
I can just see someone ordering one of these discs from NetFlix.
The question is: how long will it take someone watching one of those to collapse from exhaustion.
(sorry, but someone had to bring up the obvious topic)
With the very large capacity hard drives out there, this, although it looks expensive, just might be the lesser expensive way to back up one's entire system, or entire hard drives. My comparison being the costs of these drives and media versus the costs of tape drives and media for massive backups. Besides, the prices will drop drastically on these, rapidly, just as they did with CD and DVD burners and media.
What for?
I can garuntee the disk will never be full,
And I can garuntee people wont remember to finalise the disk.
So someone who buys a write once disk, so it cant be changed is going to be in for a surprise when someone adds a new session to the end of the disk, replacing thier unchangeable files with new versions.
For those that don't know much about them (i didn't)
STORAGE:
HD- HD DVD supports 15 gb for one layer and 30 gb for dual layer. A triple layer disc in development by Toshiba will hold 45 gb.
BD - Blu-Ray discs as said in the summary hold 25 gb for one layer and 50 for two. Also in development for BD is 100 gb 4 layer and 200 gb 8 layer discs. Both BD and HD are backwards compatible with the current DVD specification (although for BD it is apparently not compulsory for manufacturers to include it).
COPY PROTECTION:
HD - HD's will employ copy restriction developed by AACS LA. Audio Watermark Technology is also being used. All Hd dvd players will include a sensor that listens for audible watermarks placed in the soundtracks of movies. (read more at the wikipedia site).
BD - Blu-ray has "experimental digital rights management that allows for dynamically changing encryption schemes". This prevents a single crack from breaking the whole protection scheme like what happened with DeCSS and DVDs. Also included is digital watermarking technology. (more at wikipedia
Interesting note about Blue Ray discs, original discs made with blue ray technology were very susceptible to scratches and had to be enclosed in plastic caddies for protection. TDK came up for a solution to this in January 2004 that gave Blue ray discs "unprecedented scratch resistance." HD DVD discs use the same coating found on cds and dvds. For my money, it seems like BD is the better technology. We'll see how the copy protection pans out.
All information taken from wikipedia.org
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-DVD"
for that much money, are you crazy?! i'll buy a new harddrive instead of wasting my money on the first generation of these discs which are for sure easily scratched and would last readable for just a couple of years... - or should i say months?
...from last time to wait until a combo drive is released which does both. Well, that or wait until one format is a clear winner. My last PC came originally with a DVD+R(W) drive, and at that time nowhere seemed to sell +R disks except online, and they were about twice the price of -R disks even there. So, of course, I kept on using CDR instead until the price fell enough for me to get a +-R drive, and by then the disk price had equalised so it didn't really matter what I bought any more. At least, not to me.
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This whole mess will probably sort itself out within a year or two. And since I don't have an HDTV or plan to buy one any time soon, I don't really care just now!
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Honestly, about the only things the new generation of DVD (HD-DVD and Blue-Ray) is going to be a success for is Hi-Def movies. At the size they are, there isn't going to be any demand for them to use on the PC as writable disks, unlike CD-R/W and DVD-R/W. People currently use CDs and old DVDs to do primarily three things: Transfer/backup important data, Audio (whether Orange-book audio or MP3/WMA/AAC), and home-video. All three of these things fit nicely into the current DVD/CD sizes, and even when Camcorders start using HiDef, people generally don't send around multiple hours of Video. At most, it's 1-2 hours of little bobby's Soccer game/birthday party. Which still fits on a DVD via MPEG4 (even in HiDef).
The new DVDs aren't big enough to make an impact on the backup market (where you need 100s of GB per disk to even be considered), and they are (and will remain) far more costly than ordinary CD/DVD-RW media. They have some attractiveness for PC and console gaming, but even there, without a huge amount of in-game video, current DVD capacity will suffice for years for the vast majority of games.
DRM and other factors will hurt uptake even more. Honestly, I figure it's going to take at least 20 years before the new DVD format have anywhere near the penetration that DVDs and VCRs do now. And that takes into account having the new DVD formats on consoles. People just aren't going to use them much.
The big media companies rushed this tech to market - there is no real demand for their functionality right now, and won't be for at least 5 years, minimum. From the consumer standpoint, this is a solution in search of a problem. I figure there will be a generation skip here - the replacement for HD-DVD/Blu-Ray should show up around 2020, and consumers are smart enought to see it, so I'm predicting that the new DVD formats will peak at about 10% of the current DVD market, if that.
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This struck me on reading it, too. The only thing I could come up with is that maybe the rewritable discs are less durable than write-once discs.
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I've never broken a DVD by dropping it.
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So far, I see a lot of vaporware. Once I see the product, I'll believe it exists.
The rest (price, copy protection, reliability etc) has been mentioned before, so I won't get into depth there. Just that I'll certainly wait until those problems are analyzed before I'll consider buying one. And while the prices are higher than for external HDs, I don't really see a good reason to buy one.
Current movies aren't worth being copied. Or bought.
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I can already see this new format going the way of many past failures (ie. Laser Disk, Beta, Minidisk).
The timing just isnt right. Consumers are not ready to start embracing a new technology when they just barely started embracing dvds. Lots of people have just begun moving their entire collection to dvd. Yes there were early adopters of dvd, but for the majority it has only been a few years. To introduce a new and improved format so soon will only make consumers realize what a sham it is. By making them have to buy the movies they have already bought a second time (maybe 3rd).
This new generation isnt revolutionary. Its not a big enough improvement to get an entire industry to switch. And 5 years from now 50GB is going to look very small.
We need a new standard that can not only support our needs now, but that can sustain them for many years to come.
Lets see... to get 400GB(rewritable) in discs would be $480.
For a decent 400GB hard drive today, around $225.
Already does this seem yesterdays technology.... and this is supposed to sustain us for many years?
Does anybody has ANY info about Linux support for these drives?
I have been looking foward to the PS3 for years now. But given the delay's, all this DRM crap, and these costs (beside the fact they never responded to my compnaies request to become a developer), I'm starting to think, "to hell with em". Think I'll take a Nintendo Revolution, stick mith my current DVDs and invest the money I save into a spirited start-up working on Holographic disks. Thank you very much.
Sony's going down!
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while the write speeds are still low compared to hard disks, and the access times would suck, it would be nice to be able to boot a disk on any computer, and be able to save all your work on that same disk. Beats having to work with only web based documents, or leaving small images on the local hard drive.
I can imagine a time when you could go to a net cafe (for example) and the pc you hired didn't have a hard disk at all, just a HD rewriter. You bring your own OS and leave no traces (incriminating or otherwise).
I guess this is possible now with DVD-RAM but the available space is a bit limited.
Another possibilty would be true use anywhere software. You wouldn't need to write for any particular market segment anymore, as you would provide the software and OS on the same bootable disk, great for corporate desktops or front of house applications.
I realise this idea will be shot down in flames for various reasons, but I still think it has merits. For example you could have MoviX or GeexBoX AND 40 or 50 movies all on the same disk.
Considering it takes around 10 years for optical media to make a 5-fold increase in capacity (CD 0.7GB 1983/91 -> DVD 4.7GB 1997 -> BD 25GB 2006) and Flash memory seems to be doubling every year (512Mb 2001 -> 16Gb 2006), the question is how long before Flash over-takes optical in capacity? Answer: about 5 years. Of course it will probably never beat optical discs for capacity/$, but at some point flash memory should be cheap enough that it doesn't rally matter a great deal. Flash memory is much more convenient to use. In other words, if the current trend continues, optical disks will be obsolete within 10 years. (Yes, that's right. 1TB flash cards anyone?)
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And if so, will we need Windows Extra DRM edition (aka Windows Vista) or will we see Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players available for current operating systems?
With 25 or 50 GB capacity it would be nice to copy a collection of standard DVDs to the discs for use when travelling, etc. Imagine being able to keep one disc in a portable DVD player and be able to choose from three, six or as many as ten different DVDs all on one disc. I realize there are technical limitations such as creating a custom DVD menu and the cost of BD media, burners and portable players is going to be prohibitively expensive at first, but will a BD player play a movie from a burned BD-ROM? And I don't mean a HD movie, I am talking about the current DVD standard we have now.
Anyone know or is it even possible to know at this point?
As many so correctly point out - we've seen this before, they come out, are expensive, the media at ludicrous prices and most of us play the waiting game until it actually pays to buy one.
Not a bad thing really. Those who wants to ride the "fast-tech-lane" and be first with the latest - pay for innovation and pave way for the normal people who wouldn't get caught dead paying 60 bucks for a CD.
Personally I was "first-with-the-latest" all the way in my early twenties when the Commodore-64/Amiga was all the rave...and it stopped when I grew older and prioritized differently. I then found out that instead of buying a DVD-Recorder at 500 dollars (plus 30 bucks each DVD-R) I'd use my trusty CD-recorder and bought CD's for 20 cents each, easily reaching 4.7 gb with just a few bucks, sure....I'd have to change discs a bit, but it was more practical for the time as no single file took 4.7 gb so I could have a neat archive with files and names.
Later on, the DVD recorders dropped to an astonishing 50 bucks, and an even more astonishing 50 cents pr. DVD if I bought these "overseas" which I certainly did. Because NOW it paid to buy DVD's instead of CD's.
Interestingly enough - the need for storage haven't been in sync with the expansion of program/file sizes, so we're in for a treat.
I can't for the life of me fill up my old 80 GB harddrives, even with multi-booting systems with Linux AND windows. I'm actually more likely to use the 80 GB harddrives as "2-year-milestone-swapdisks" just replacing them with the need for change (new os/ new stuff etc.) and it's actually cheaper keeping my old stuff ready to use on those older drives, way safer too!
My old CD's peel after 5 years, some lasted 10...but I have 10 years old harddisk I still can connect and get my old photos, documents etc.
Food for thoughts...
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The move from VHS to DVD was huge, as we know: random access, superior picture quality, widescreen, menus, specials, etc. The move from DVD to Blu-ray/HD-DVD is analogous to going from an Athlon XP 3200+ to an Athlon64 3700+: frankly, not that much.
/. realize this...so what's next? Somebody predicted 2020 to be the year when the new thing comes out. My take: 3D. 3D will usher in another massive adoption, because it would be a technological leap instead of a baby step. Stereoscopic 3D will be a cash cow, as the technology will not be 100% mature in the beginning, meaning the entertainment companies will be able to release version after version for many years.
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Laserdisc, Betamax, Minidisc
although the last one should arguably end in a K depending on ones particular distiction between a disc and a diskette.
Arguments exist to support the disctinction being optical media vs. magnetic (in that case Minidisc would end in a 'c' as it does), but just as abundant are arguments that the distinction has to do with whether or not the disc is enclosed by some kind of rectangular/square housing, making the minidisc cartridge a disk.
Regardless, the Sony has dubbed their product with a 'c'
Let's say 50MB for a reasonable, average CD encoding of tolerable quality.
That's around 500 albums per disc.
Which is about 25,000 per stack of 50.
Which, if you have a carousel/jukebox holding 400 discs at a time, is 200,000 albums.
That's about 80 years worth of listening if you listen to music about 7 hours a day.
And when prices of BD-R 100 stacks come down to $50 next year, you'll be able to get every album ever released so far for $200 plus whatever markup your friendly ripper charges you.
Soon the problem won't be obtaining the music, it'll be trying to figure out what to listen to next, and how to persuade musicians to produce more.
I also imagine that, akin to CD and DVD, to write HD-DVD-RW media will take (at least) twice as long?
Surely for some time will be a consideration, especially with such large media.
Looking forward to owning one in one or two years.
Incidentally, anyone want to buy my 1x SCSI Caddy CD burner?
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A lot of people are basing future pricing notions in this thread on past reality when energy was cheap, and oil to make plastics and the players was cheap. Once oil hits 150$/barrel or so-which it will, probably by next year as more hurricanes and expanded middle east war and maybe larger african wars affect pricing-you won't be seing these dramatic price drops to the same proportional level as we saw CDs and burners and computers, etc over the past 10 years. New ball game now.
Energy/raw materials are a very underrrated criteria with these projections. I think people are engaging in a whole lot of wishful thinking that isn't being "backed up", pun intended, by market reality. It is going to be increasingly difficult for manufacturing tech improvements-that can lead to lower prices- to even maintain parity with energy and raw materials cost increases. None of this tech exists in a vacuum all by itself, it is all interconnected.
Let's not forget that in 1995, CD-R drives were over $1,000. That in 1998, CD-RW drives were over $400.. and in 2002, a DVD-RW drive was over $500 and the media was nearly $20 a disc. By 2004, DVD-RW media was only $2 a disc, and the drives were under $200. It's amazing how hysterical people can get over entry price points for new technology like this. If it's too expensive, then wait a year to buy it.. but don't think "It's destined for failure, it's too expensive". If there's one constant truth in technology, it's that if you wait, the price will soon come down.
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Congratulations for finally announcing end user computer usable drives.
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I say one thing:
If there is no Mac OS X support with external Firewire/USB on the products of first bench, you lost it. Call your Movie/Music division to ask why.
This warning may sound needless but it is. Pick up those cool corparate phones you have and better call 1-800-MY-APPLE , OS X device driver team/3rd party products office now.
People may think this is a needless message but we should also post a message warning them not to install a hacking tool to their paying audio CD consumers.
Options: 1) Buy Blu-Ray drive, with all it's Sonyness and potential DRM dickery; 2) Buy Several Harddrives, an external Casing, and use those instead. 2) Is cheaper and doesn't involve making a deal with the devil. How much are PS3 games going to cost? It's going to be the N64 all over again, but worse.
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The ipod will no doubt fail eventually. My hard drive will no doubt fail eventually. I'm hoping the odds of them both failing at exactly the same time are pretty low.
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So far most of the threads here are revoving around the cost, but what about HDCP? It's worth noting that Sony didn't anounce any standalone drives, only PCs with the drives. Tie that to the fact that no shipping video cards today have implemented HDCP, and you've got a recipe for forced-upgrade-itis. I'm guessing sony actually implemented the HDCP features of one of the video chips out there, but what will this mean for playback of protected movies on projectors, TVs, and monitors that don't support HDCP?
Think outside the... Hey, where'd the friggin' box go?
They both suck. May they both die the death of a billion indifferent consumers.
I don't think many people here have seen images from the new HD camcorders. There are a couple of new Sony HD camcorders for 1400 USD that make all most other non-pro camcorders look like garbage. A major shift is at hand in the camcorder market and the new drives will need to be a part of that obviously. The new images are astounding.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/02/17/005 1234.shtml
I'll wait a few years insted of investing every 6 months in something
that last as long as a pet rock.
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Cool. So let's wait until some cheapo Combo-Burners (CD, DVD +-, BD, HD-DVD) are coming out.
One year ought be enough...
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Data must be encrypted from disc to display precisely because everything in between can't be trusted. All the software has to do is pass that data along intact, so I don't see why open source would make a difference.
It's surprising that they are letting them be installed into PCs at all. Why ? What is the point ? Are they required, needed or wanted in a PC ? Nope. :-)
I thought they would want to prevent piracy and a great way is to stop them working in PCs
Do the 8-15% of households with HDTV's have the HDMI port? If not, they wont be watching hi-def. All the backstabbing in the consumer electronics business is really what will keep people away from BD/HD, either because people are paranoid or just simply confused out of their minds. By treating early adopters of HDTVs with no respect, Sony and Toshiba will likely find many problems selling their next-gen equipment.
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With CDs, rewritables were initially more expensive, but they rarely played in CD players and so were largely useless for music. By the time CD-R media dropped below $0.50 per disk, rewritability seemed to be a low-value feature. Same thing pretty much held true for DVDs as well, though there's probably better overall player support for DVD+/-RW than there was for CD-RW.
Since consumers didn't find RW technology as useful as write only, demand for RWs is lower and therefore not really surprising that they are now cheaper.
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Sony hardly designed these with consumers in mind; nobody sat in meetings asking how to improve things for end users.
They wanted DRM-delivery-systems, and created a non-commodity product that isn't generic (ie., charge us more $$).
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When all is said and done, nothing changes...
I hope that "we" , the slashdot crowd, is smart enough to realize that the price on the dics and the devices WILL fall as the drives become mainstream, and production of both drives, and discs increase.
No more posts on "OMG!!!11!! So expensive its teh sucks!!!" and so on.
There will be no playback of encrypted movies on the Sony PC. The poster failed to mention that nugget of information, or are we not supposed to bring that up on this site?
HD is a bigger quality leap than laserdisc to DVD, or even VHS to DVD. We're talking 6.5x as many pixels, with a better average pixel than with DVD to boot.
I spent much of last week looking at the compressed VC-1 masters for the HD DVD launch titles, and it's astounding how much more detail there is compared to the DVD, so many little details you never would have noticed on a DVD.
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The only reason I'd buy these is for backing up stuff, but It's not economically feasible to use them.
Maxtor MaXLine III 7V300F0 300GB SATA-II Drive: $127
Sony Blu-Ray 25GB Disc: $22.5
Sony Blu-Ray 50GB Disc: $54
If you brake that down into price per gigabyte you get $0.423, $0.9, and $1.08 respectively.
The numbers speak for themselves. I will use 80 Discs and it will cost me $1,800 just to backup a simple 2TB array! Tape and Disc technology are so far behind Hard Drive technology that it's not cost effective to even consider them as backup solutions.
High-Def Blueray movie: $35. Writable Blueray disc: $45. At these prices you're losing money to priate a high def movie, seems like pretty good DRM to me!
This is off-topic, but I couldn't find a way to contact you privately.
Could you please go into more detail about your RAID-6 setup? I'm planning something similar, and would really appreciate some real-world experience with it, pitfalls to avoid etc.
Specifically, I'm interested in:
- which controller card and OS do you use?
- what type of hard drives, and do you use the same model/manufacturer, or are they mixed, to lessen probability of all of them belonging to a single bad batch?
- do you use hardware or software RAID?
- what filesystem you have formatted on the array?
- what kind of power supplies do you use, and in particular how do you deal with huge spin-up current draw when the array is booted, or when multiple drives wake up from power-save mode?
- did you encounter any issues with hard drive power-save in a RAID array?
- how about cooling and noise, any tips there?
- any other advice you might have
If you have a webpage up somewhere with an overview of your setup, that would be great.
And if you wish to continue this discussion in private, you can contact me at: grnch@gmx.net
I hope you will see this. Thanks.
Wake me when:
1. The blank discs cost around $1 each
2. They sort out which format is going to dominate
3. The drives cost less than A$200
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New TVs and equipment have encryption built in to HDMI so that you can't use it unless it's exacly like they (content providers) want you to.
There's NO WAY around it. the current copyright and patent legislation is STIFLING creativity and NOT promoting progress. If it weren't for the GREEDY corporations who decide that I should be able to read an Ebook on my computer at home but not when I'm on a break at work, I would be able to do the foloowing:
- Record HD programming and whatch it when I want
- Listen to my Ogg recordings of all my Cds in my car
- Watch HD movies on my HD TV (blue-ray and HD-DVD aren't necessary, close to the same can be accomplished with DVD and MPEG-4 today)
- Record HD shows ala TiVo
- Listen to ALL my CDs from any computer in my home (and therefore in my bedroom and living room with cheap Linux PCs)
And more, and more... I don't care if someone is breaking the law, sue them or arrest them. I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING MY HARDWARE IS CAPABLE OF though because of DRM. They've implemented "protection" (or restrictions) on HDMI where TVs can only play media they are licensed for. Many HD sources of the future will only play in low-def (480p) on your TV unless you have the right equipment and licenses. I think it is just INFUCKINGCREDIBLE that the MPAA and RIAA have the power in congress to create laws to protect their special monopolistic interests against the good of the public. What king of innovation is supported by current measures? NONE!he specifically EXCLUDES 5.25 floppies from the range of what is under consideration..
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It gets decrypted in software? I guess I need to read about it a bit, but that doesn't seem very secure.