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Human Genome Sequencing Completed

Arthur Dent '99 writes "According to this article at Reuters, the last chromosome in the human genome has finally been sequenced, taking 150 British and American scientists 10 years to complete. The sequenced chromosome, Chromosome 1, is the largest chromosome, with nearly twice as many genes as the average chromosome, making up eight percent of the human genetic code. The Human Genome Project has published the sequence online in the journal Nature, according to the article. It contains 3,141 genes (over 1,000 of them newly discovered), and 4,500 new SNPs -- single nucleotide polymorphisms -- which are the variations in human DNA that make people unique."

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  1. First Chromosome by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I won't bore you with the details, but theres lots of GATCAATGAGGTGGACACCAGAGGCGGGGACTTGTAAATAACACTGGGC type things here

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    1. Re:First Chromosome by PyrotekNX · · Score: 5, Funny

      I always wondered where the movie GATTACA got it's title.

    2. Re:First Chromosome by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, now that they've sequenced the Genome, can sequencing the KeDE be far behind?

  2. So now. by AltGrendel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can we start the patent countdown clock?

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  3. Secret Project Complete by FhnuZoag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now where's my +1 Talent in every base?

  4. Would've been decoded sooner ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    if God wouldn't have used LISP to encode the darn sequence in the first place

    1. Re:Would've been decoded sooner ... by Fjornir · · Score: 3, Funny
      You thought wrong.
      I was taught assembler
      in my second year of school.
      It's kinda like construction work --
      with a toothpick for a tool.
      So when I made my senior year,
      I threw my code away,
      And learned the way to program
      that I still prefer today.

      Now, some folks on the Internet
      put their faith in C++.
      They swear that it's so powerful,
      it's what God used for us.
      And maybe it lets mortals dredge
      their objects from the C.
      But I think that explains
      why only God can make a tree.

      For God wrote in Lisp code
      When he filled the leaves with green.
      The fractal flowers and recursive roots:
      The most lovely hack I've seen.
      And when I ponder snowflakes,
      never finding two the same,
      I know God likes a language
      with its own four-letter name.

      Now, I've used a SUN under Unix,
      so I've seen what C can hold.
      I've surfed for Perls, found what Fortran's for,
      Got that Java stuff down cold.
      Though the chance that I'd write COBOL code
      is a SNOBOL's chance in Hell.
      And I basically hate hieroglyphs,
      so I won't use APL.

      Now, God must know all these languages,
      and a few I haven't named.
      But the Lord made sure, when each sparrow falls,
      that its flesh will be reclaimed.
      And the Lord could not count grains of sand
      with a 32-bit word.
      Who knows where we would go to
      if Lisp weren't what he preferred?

      And God wrote in Lisp code
      Every creature great and small.
      Don't search the disk drive for man.c,
      When the listing's on the wall.
      And when I watch the lightning burn
      Unbelievers to a crisp,
      I know God had six days to work,
      So he wrote it all in Lisp.

      Yes, God had a deadline.
      So he wrote it all in Lisp.
      All credit to Julia Ecklar -- and (I believe) Heather Alexander who is singing the linked copy.
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  5. I'd like fries with that by gentimjs · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll take my next kid with larger-than-average height, enhanced frontal lobes, a natural resistance to the polio virus, OH and dont forget the 20/10 vision!

    1. Re:I'd like fries with that by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Odd things can be related. I remember hearing about how there were fox fur breeders somewhere (like in Russia). They decided to try to breed tamer foxes so they wouldn't have to worry about getting bit so much. Well after a few generations they succeeded. There was only one problem: all the tame foxes had a big white streak down their back, ruining the pelt. They two traits were related somehow, even though you wouldn't think it.

      So, what if it was a choice between good vision and very high intelligence? How about between good vision or very low risk of cancer/heart disease?

      Bad vision is correctable. If there is a trade off to make, good vision would be something that wouldn't be too hard to trade for something better.

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    2. Re:I'd like fries with that by k98sven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They two traits were related somehow, even though you wouldn't think it.

      Which is more of a typical example of Science challenging our preconceptions than actual "oddity".

      To make an analogy, if you came across a switchboard with 100 light bulbs and 100 switches, you'd probably assume each switch turned on a light. Then you'd be confused to discover that some switches turned on two lights, some lights needed several switches to be on, and some switches did nothing at all.

      Of course, if you looked under the hood and saw how the thing was wired, you'd then find that there wasn't actually anything strange going on, just that your assumption of how the thing worked was oversimplified.

      I think this oversimplification is one of the reasons some people have trouble understanding evolution. It's a bit hard to understand how things like heireditary genetic diseases could exist if you assume that it's a completely independent property (and indeed, most of them probably wouldn't exist if it was).

      Another fun example of non-obvious traits in humans is that a single SNP (prevalent in East Asians) causes you to sweat less, but also causes you to have dry and crumbly earwax instead of the gooey, sticky stuff most people have.

    3. Re:I'd like fries with that by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You're just wrong about this. 20/10 means you can resolve something 20 feet away twice as well as the average person; similarly, 20/40 means you can resolve something 20 feet away half as well as the average person. But 20/10 does not mean your eye is misshapen or your sense of perspective is off. It simply means you have better distance vision than average. Now, you may also be "farsighted" -- i.e., have trouble resolving things close up -- but the two are basically independent of each other.

      20/20 isn't "perfect," BTW. Human vision is very good compared to that of most animals, but it's laughably bad compared to that of, e.g., birds of prey. I guarantee you an eagle can see better than you can whether it's spotting a rabbit from a few hundred feet in the air, or staring that same rabbit in the face right before dinnertime. ;)

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  6. A simple question by helioquake · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do one chromosone have more genes than others?

    1. Re:A simple question by WickedScorp · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are all different sizes. Chromosomes are numbered from largest to smallest 1 - 22 (except 21 and 22; 21 is actually the shortest and 22 is slightly bigger; the mistake was made in early cytogenetics because they couldn't distinguish the sizes well enough and those two were named incorrectly) + X and or Y. So chr 1, being very large, has a very large number of genes just because it's huge. It isn't the most gene dense, however, which is chromosome 19 with more genes / Mb than elsewhere in the genome.

    2. Re:A simple question by SnowZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Evolution is a process with a lot of randomness. So I'd instead ask the question: Why would you exepct them to be the same?

    3. Re:A simple question by FTL · · Score: 5, Informative

      > Why do one chromosone have more genes than others?

      Same reason some source code files contain more lines of code than others. They do different things.

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  7. In a slow elderly Eastern European accent.... by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "To map the very stuff of life; to look into the genetic mirror and watch a million generations march past. That, friends, is both our curse and our proudest achievement. For it is in reaching to our beginnings that we begin to learn who we truly are."
          -- Academician Prokhor Zakharov,
          "Address to the Faculty"

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  8. Oblig. by mk_is_here · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scientists: All your base pair are belong to us!

  9. Remember kids... by TheOldSchooler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your single nucleotide polymorphisms are unique! Just like everyone else's.

  10. Part of the sequence: by GroeFaZ · · Score: 4, Funny

    ACGATCGTACGcopyrightTAGATCGCGTAGTAGCTAGCTGTbyGGCGG CGGTACGGCTATiehovaAGTCGATCGATGATCG5billionBC-TAGCT AGCTAGCTAGCTAGinfinityTAGTAGTATTTATTTunauthorizedA GGCGGTATGCTAGCTAGreproductionCTGATGTGTAGCCCAprohib itedCCAGCTTAGCTAbyGCTAGCTAGTGTAAATCGCCATCGCGCCTAdi vineTTCTCTAGAGCTTAGCATGCTAlawCGTACGTAGCTA

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    1. Re:Part of the sequence: by ggvaidya · · Score: 4, Funny

      ACTTTTTCGCGAGAGGAGAGTGAGT//todo:this should only return a positive values!AAAAAATTTCTATCTACTATCTACATATCATTACA/*warnin g we are kluding around the antique "arthropod" module, here there be bugs!*/AAAACTCTTATCTATTTATTCATCTATCATTCATCTATCATCT ACTACTATCTAATCTATACA//haha nice hackACTCTACTATAGATCGATGT

  11. Re:Ah yes... by WickedScorp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm forced to agree with QuantumG. I'm a Human Geneticist and the genome project is an invaluable tool in the study of human disease. I can understand the fear of the misuse of the technology, but do you think that part of the genome should have been left unsequenced? If so which parts? What would be the benefit of such and action? This technology has allowed for the development of the ability to rapidly screen for the many know disease mutations to assess risk for "genetic" disease. It has also had practical medical impact in daily life. Screen cancer samples for chromosomal abnormalities and mutations has led to the development of rational therapy for specific cancer types. Where everything is leading is rational therapy overall. Individualized medicine and preventative medicine are the goals. I do agree with you that there are dangers associated with such knowledge. The question is whether we can use it to benefit the everyday man or woman to improve the quality of life for everyone.

  12. SNPs by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the fine article:
    "The scientists also identified 4,500 new SNPs -- single nucleotide polymorphisms -- which are the variations in human DNA that make people unique."

    There are other variations which make us unique.
    Alternate alleles*
    Indels (insertions/deletions)
    Variable numbers of repeats.*

    The genetic code uses 4 letters, but I'll use English for explaination.
    A SNP is a single letter which has different values in different individuals: "The cat and the dog" vs "the hat and the dog".
    An indel is where letters have been inserted into one sequence or deleted from another (without additional data, we can't distinguish these possibilities.)
    "The cat and the dog" vs "the cat and the big dog".
    In alternate alleles there are a bunch of changes which always stick together, e.g. we observe "the cat and the big dog" and "the cat and the small mouse", but never (or exceedingly rarely) "the cat and the big mouse" or "the cat and the small dog."
    Variable repeats are a special case of indels, but common enough to warrant a category of their own. "The cat and and and the dog" vs "the cat and and and and and the dog".

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  13. Because it evolved by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why do one chromosone have more genes than others

    Why not? It's because it wasn't designed by a computer geek (or anyone/thing else) where you might have said, hrmmm, we need about 30,000 genes for this design, so we'll split that into 26 chromosomes of 1,154 genes apiece. That should do it!

    The fact is, we evolved, and so our components are just bits and pieces taken from all our previous ancestors, modified according to whatever was needed to suit the environment we happened to find ourselves in at the time. As with all natural, biological, dynamic processes, what emerges is often bizarrely disorganised, yet somehow works.

    1. Re:Because it evolved by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Funny
      Nonsense. We'd design it to have 32 bits to index the chromesomes, 32 bits to index the genes in each chromesome, and an alternate set of registers so you could quickly swap chromesomes for different tasks. You could clock it at any speed, or leave it static, and it'd never lose data. It'd be radiation hardened, low-power, erasable by ultraviolet, reprogramable by anything from dip switches to GHz pulse trains, internally and externally redundant, solar-powered, ecologically friendly, and involve a great deal of caffiene. Primary developmental needs would be met by carefully metered infusions of pizza.

      However, because of technological limitations, only the bottom 4 bits of the gene index would actually be used, with the next 4 bits being set to zero by default, and the remaining 24 bits determining your average skin color.

      Additionally, the 32 bit chromesome index would use 8 bits starting at the MSB, the next 8 bits would be reserved and set to zero, and the remaining 16 bits would be undefined, though later we'd find variations there gave rise to both creationist tendencies and division by zero, leading us towards a new design that is only 16 bits, but ran twice as fast and never divided by zero, or made up answers to questions without having known good data on the input side.

      All other features would be put off for the beta version, because we'd have a little trouble with the alpha we didn't exactly anticipate.

      Unfortunately, all advances gained by this leap in technology would be lost when hardware manufacturers forced new "quantum confusion" technology upon the geeks in a selfish race for more market share. Geeks fail to notice because they're too busy trying to get Genes 0.1 alpha through ANSI committee approval.

      For maximum efficiency, this awesomely fast new technology requires light pipes for communications, however, in a legislative feat worthy of Maltheus himself, congress declares that production of light pipes within the boundaries of any state for use within the boundaries of that state represent interstate commerce of light paraphanalia, and so no one's going to be doing that, thank you. It's all part of the War on Bits. InSmell, primary manufacturer of light pipes in the USA, shuts all production down, fires half its workforce, and its stock goes up by a factor of four.

      At this point, the only light-pipe architecture you can find comes from Japan, and the upper 24 bits of the gene index are all hard-coded to DDDDBB. It is expensive, but everyone buys it anyway. You can only run this hardware in Denmark. Floating (actually, more like drifting) point is emphasized, and virtual reality is experienced by all users, though that is not to say that it is the same virtual reality across the board.

      In the meantime, US geeks invent open-source web 9.0, expend all their energy producing applications for it that have absolutely no merit whatsoever of any kind using the justly famous "Corundum on Wagon Ruts" technology to replace perfectly good desktop apps that already exist, but are really really cool because they can make almost any browser's "Joe" scripting language use all the memory in your computer... subsequently, geeks quietly go extinct while arguing if GPL or PD is the way to go for the open source path.

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  14. protein modelling by sc0p3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is good news but not too useful until we can model protein shaping.

    The AGCT's code for proteins and so far we can only model very short combinations. All you coders keen for a life project have a crack at it. Theres 20 amino acids formed from combinations of three base pairs. The amino acids have attraction and repulsion properties with each other and their environment and form to make a unique shape. Its the analysis of that 3D shape that will solve:

    - all cancer - modelling protein shapes means instant cancer cures
    - bird flu - again modelling proteins means instant antibodies to diseases
    - the most toxic substance ever invented - it will also open up designer drugs

  15. and then there was a two...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    gtcatgcgatacgtaggcaaatcg2tgacggcagt

    hmmm i guess its not as funny unless its binary

  16. Re:20/10 is better than perfect!!! by zeno_2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to add on to this

    20/20 vision means that when you stand away from something at 20ft, what you see is what the normal person would see at 20ft.

    20/40 is, well, if you stand 20ft away, you see what a normal person would see at 40ft

    Same goes for 20/10.

  17. Re:3,141 genes by pchan- · · Score: 4, Informative

    You seem to be under the impression that the number 1000 has some special meaning. Let's try your comment again, in octal:

    pi * 1750 genes. Got to love those fun coincidences

    Not so exciting now, is it? Nature is not decimal-based. The only reason we tend to be is because of the number of fingers we have.

  18. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  19. Re:Ah yes... by WickedScorp · · Score: 3, Informative

    The basic idea is this. Our cells need a program that tells them what to do. That's the genome. There are a total of 46 chromosomes consisting of two sets of 23 independent chromosomes (1 - 22 and X or Y). DNA makes up the chromsomes. It's just a chemical structure that stores information; the four chemicals that make up DNA are Adenine (A), Thymidine (T), Cytosine (C) and Guanine (G). Every DNA molecule is actually two pieces of DNA that pair together as A binding to T and C binding to G. Sequencing is a chemical reaction that will tell you what the sequences of these four nitrogenous bases are. For example you may end up getting a read of AGTATTACGTATGCATAGGTCCGATG from a sequencing reaction (usu you'll get about 500 - 700 bases in one reaction). This tells you the sequence of ONE of the TWO strands of the DNA molecule. BUT since they pair in a predictable way, you know the sequence of the opposite strand (A-T and C-G). Our genomes are composed of approximately 3.2 billion total As, Cs, Ts and Gs. The goal of the genome project was just to tell us what the sequence of those bases are. That's it. Finding genes and things of that nature are really things that come about from having the primary sequence to reference. If you want to find a mutation you have to know what the sequence is SUPPOSED to be and WHERE IT IS before you can say it is different. That's your quick answer: the genome project sought to determine (1) what the sequence of bases in human chromosomes where and (2) the physical position of these sequences within the chromosomes. They did some other interesting things to prepare for it along the way, but that is a separate matter.

  20. Re:Great But... by lbbros · · Score: 3, Informative

    Completing the sequence and actually putting it together are two entirely different affairs. Small sequences called ESTs (Expressed Sequence Tags) were obtained during this effort. The big task after that was to put everything together AND in order. Think of it as a massive puzzle. Even the genome has different "builds" depending on the level of completeness of this work.

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  21. Re:3,141 genes by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually there are a few "numbers" that are "magic" in nature. Depending on the species.

    10 certainly is important to us, having 10 fingers and 10 toes. Unless you're carpenter.
    Asking a bee, you'd prolly be called crazy and 6 is the perfect number, from legs to comb.
    A spider would probably tell you 8 is more important, from legs to their web's segments.

    But since this genome has meaning for us, I'd wager that our "magic" applies.

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  22. Finished my ass by pugdk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are still large gaps in each chromosome, either due to repetitive sequences, high GC content or closeness to the centromere - basically saying that the human genome is finally done is like saying that 99.9% equals 100%, which it doesn't. This is especially important in cases where you actually NEED to use sequence in areas where it has not been assembled correctly or has not been sequenced... which has happend to me multiple times during the last couple of years... oh and those places in the genome have been unfinished ever since the first installment appeared publicly... they are even lacking in the Celera version of the genome... Finished my ass! -pug

  23. Human genome is not finished by ill+dillettante · · Score: 4, Informative
    It is actually only about 75% complete - basically the scientist involved have no idea how to finish the remaining sections (mostly simple repeats) so they have "defined" the genome complete by saying that these regions are unimportant.

    This is by my count the fourth time that the human genome has been announced "finished" - anymore times and they will all be invited to become slashdot editors.