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Honda Robot Controlled By Brain Waves
Dotnaught writes "Honda researchers to have developed a way to control robots using human brain waves. Using brain signals read from a person in a magnetic resonance imaging scanner, a robotic hand mirrored the movement of the human controller, spreading its fingers and making a 'V' sign."
I for one welcome our new mind-reading overlords!
On the other hand... I'm sure AI would be more peaceful than some that would get their hands on the technology
-FL
guess vulcan trekkies have robo friends ;)
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"I must think in... Japanese?!?!"
...further trials resulted in the robotic hand trying to touch itself every other minute and repeatly making lewd gestures with it's middle finger.
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It never ceases to amaze me how we have made science fiction from the past possible. Although I am quite curious how "A.I." will play out in the future, I am excited to own my very own, personal, light saber.
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A while back, I remember reading that someone had invented a video game that was controlled similarly, but it took a while to train yourself to "think" properly. Having the robot mirror your own movement sounds far superior. If this continues to develop, I have some hope of never developing carpal tunnel syndrome.
...can a Stephen Hawking Transformer be far behind?
Honda could enter the novelty sex market with this, for sure.
I could steal old people's medicine
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Venture Capitalists fund $300 billion dollars into a project presented by an organization called NERV.
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arent the robots suppose to learn how to control the human brain?
When will honda start implementing this technology into their cars? I can't wait to get cut off in traffic by some jerk while his civic is flipping me off.
the robot is either saying peace or cursing you out? init?
This would be really cool to implement in prosthetics. How awesome would it be to get a robotic arm that functioned just like your real arm that got ripped off by another robot when it's AI went nutso instead of a flesh colored piece of plastic?
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The venture capitalists, ironically, were part of an organization called STEELE.
More perverted robots.
Not available in the USA.
So now everyone can have their own robot controled by their brain. But there's a catch! (omg) You only need your own billion dollar mri machine!
FTA:
In a video demonstration in Tokyo, brain signals detected by a magnetic resonance imaging scanner were relayed to a robotic hand. A person in the MRI machine made a fist, spread his fingers and then made a V-sign. Several seconds later, a robotic hand mimicked the movements. (emphasis mine)
Afterward, a reporter who strayed too far from the crowd was warned by security not to look behind the curtain.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
This is a siginficant technology upgrade from the roboroach. Still, I'll wait until SP1 just to make sure all the bugs are out of the system. :P
...then merging that "V" sign with the humans and spouting, "Nanu, nanu."
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...that it was only a matter of time until we started to see brain-to-machine mappings for communication. The possibilities are very exciting (coding with your brain anyone?). What scares me is when efforts are taken to have machine-to-brain communication. Call me crazy, but I prefer my own synapses to be the only source of thought in my brain. I don't even want to begin to think what it could happen when the machine segfaults (or gets hacked into) while injecting thoughts into my brain.
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They made a left hand? Who the hell uses those, these day?
Here ya go.
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And this is why I keep my tinfoil hat on at all times!
...or did that have giant fighting robots written all over it?
Hey, not only 14 year old people have brain waves!
We are Turing O-Machines. The Oracle is out there.
So, does the MRI interpreting algorithm need to be tailored to each user, or could an 'off-the-shelf' interpreter work for anyone?
While I'm sure that bloodflow signatures for physical movements are similar between individuals, is there too much variability to prevent false recognition of a 'signal'?
Any neurobiologists out there care to help out?
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
I've done some fMRI of motor movements... All these movements, the fist, the V-sign, would activate the hand area, premotor cortex, and some parietal areas... I am very skeptical that you could tell the difference between them. But if they can that is very impressive, especially to do it in real time...
By the way, MRI does not measure "brain waves". It measures blood oxygenation changes, which are related to the firing of neurons.
I really don't want a Robot acting out what's in my head. The mixture of honey, custard, cucumbers, and Captain Cruch cereal is deadly on robotic moving parts....just trust me on this one.
-tgpo
Because that 'V' was for Vendetta.
SIGFAULT
i hope this interfaces with my orbiting brain lazor.
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About 3 years ago, some scientists hooked up a chimpanzee and captured brain signals to control a robotic arm. Their results were quite a bit more impressive I think, because the robotic arm had full motion control, and was physically located several hundred miles away from the chimp. But still, this stuff from Honda is cool, because it's controlled by humans using mri, not wires plugged into your brain like the monkey stuff. I just hope they don't try to put brain controller stuff in their vehicles...
Here's an article from New Scientist:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4262
I just pray the day never comes when robots learn our most dear secret -- THE SHOCKER. Once they learn how to please our women, we are doomed! What do our fleshy human bodies have to offer a woman that an indestructible killing/loving machine cannot?
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Also, if they did develop a mind/computer interface, can you imagine how frustratingly slow many software applications would suddenly seem? GUIs would probably require some major overhauls in order to adapt.
Can it perform a far more useful gesture, the bird?
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Imagine a world where you can go hook yourself into a robotic control chamber and somewhere on the other side of the world, your robotic counterpart begins to walk around, talk, do things, all based on your brainwaves.
Meanwhile, video from teh robot's 'eye' are transmitted to a 3d viewer in front of your face.
Forget star-rek transporters. Thisi s the next best (and plausible) thing.
Very bad implications for crime and terrorism, though.
As per the discussion on Digg here is a video of the robot in action with the MRI:
s _bmi_robot_hand.php
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http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/honda_develop
And all the other links that were related:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/24/hondas-asimo-g
http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=12565
The Japancorp has the most information than both the engadget and then Yahoo.
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In Soviet Russia, Honda Robots control Brain Waves!
I, for one, welcome our new shocker-wielding robotic overlords.
GIANT FIGHTING ROBOTS
Seriously, why else has Japan dumped all this money into robotics and AI over the past 30 years? It's because everyone there grew up on Gigantor http://www.gigantor.org/ and Gundom, that's why. They are going to make giant fighting robots if it kills them.
Really though, this is all just trying to fill a void after the death of Godzilla in the late 60's. Substituting one giant stompy thing for another.
If you want to learn more about the life and times of gozilla and natures other lovable giant scamps, then I suggest you check out "Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah - Gaint Monster All Out Attack an A&E biography."
They clearly don't have enough organized brainwaves to run the lawn mower.
Kidding aside, I understand that during adolescence the brain completely reorganizes higher functions -- often shifting the center or processing for many of them to entirely different places.
Exactly how would this ASIMO++ handle that?
Oh, and what about blondes?
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...is it still called "masturbation" if the robot is the one doing it to you?
:(
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The human was making a V sign with his hand. The robot hand looks more like its flipping off the Brits.
I didn't appreciate it turning into an Asimo ad at the end. Also, it's hard to belive it works very well (or at all) when they report only being able to do one gesture with it. Definitely a cool idea though, and it's good if they're really making progress.
Even more important than robotics would be the application to artificial/cybernetic replacement limbs. If they could miniturize the sensor technology to where it could be embedded in a hat, or (even better) just under the skin of the scalp, it could be used to provide decent motor control for an artificial limb.
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With this technology I shall build an army of Zakus and I will defeat Amuro Ray once and for all!!!
The perfect sig is a lot like silence, only louder
Dr. Strangelove's unruly prosthetic arm is what always comes to my mind when someone mentions artificial limbs or humanoid robots. Besides, how can anyone forget a movie that has a character named "General Jack D. Ripper"? I guess I must be getting old... =8(
Now I've got that damn song running through my head. I wonder what the system does when it enounters Stxy based brain waves.
After the first demo where the robot made a "V" sign, the user made a fist and then extended his index finger to point. A few seconds later the robot made a fist and then extended all its fingers and made a "V" sign. lol.
Now I guess it's time to get some Old Glory Insurance before they come to eat my medicine for fuel...
and then we can finally do away with controllers altogether!
jtnw
tired.
This power should never be placed in the hands of a woman. I dread the day that I walk into my house and the robot greets me by nagging non stop.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian."
Here's all I can find of it: http://www.raven1.net/minddriv.htm
There are some hand gestures that flash through my head that I'd rather not have a robot execute...
where can I pre-order my exo-skeleton?
I think, and my thoughts cross the barrier into the synapses of the machine, just as the good doctor intended. But what I cannot shake, and what hints at things to come, is that thoughts cross back. In my dreams, the sensibility of the machine invades the periphery of my consciousness: dark, rigid, cold, alien. Evolution is at work here, but just what is evolving remains to be seen.
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I don't know if this is a case of bad translation or bad reporting but MRI is not used to measure brain waves. MRI uses intense magnetic fields to detect the SPIN on a hydrogen atom, and then can be used to create 3D structures. The spin of an atom is a sub-atomic property which is NOT affected by chemical let alone cellular processes. Also the brain waves that are produced during synaptic activity are incredibly small and the magnetic fields being produced by the MRI machine would easy squash the brain wave signals. Thies recordings were most likely done with an EEG machine.
given that your average MRI scanner is about the size of a room, uses a magnetic field of several Tesla and is severely susceptible to outside interference, I doubt that you want to take this in the real world.
Not only will you have a doughnut the size of a truck on your head, you'll also be the major attraction to many cars, keys and fire extinguishers outside that become lethal projectiles as soon as they are caught in the magnetic field.
On the other hand, the superconducting coils' need for liquid hydrogen means that you always have the hydrogen to keep your head cool under these circumstances...
B.
Every experiment which ends in a big bang is a good experiment.
Japanese laws of robotics.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Am I the only one who thinks this will remove all privacy whatsoever?
Think about it. If Honda develops technology to read brain waves, the ability to read thoughts won't be far behind. And guess what comes with thought reading.. you guessed it! Thought police!
I hope to god my tin foil hat works..
Does Honda make cars anymore?
So when is Honda releasing the Fembot that is controlled by brain waves... I have a lot of pronographic brain waves to "test" out!
:D in past it has only been applied to animals, i think this is a first for decoding human thought patterns. Apparently i wasn't the only one jealous of the mouse that could control his water with his mind. However please take note ... This first phase of the project was controlling the animals long before we could read their minds :o ... i'm hoping no mind control stuff comes to humans :p but atleast it is a reward based control rather than punishment. Artificial bliss doesnt sound all that bad, probably addictive though (but who isnt addicted to bliss). I hope Sanjiv K. Talwar gets the deserved credit.
super mouse: http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s948847.htm
remote control mouse: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/05 01_020501_roborats.html
but funnier:
> exoskeleton which Hawking operates through slight movements of his left wrist