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Video of Fedora On PS3
klippoth writes, "I just thought I would let you guys know, not only do I have Fedora Core 5 for PPC installed on my Playstation 3, but I video-captured running through the boot loader to demonstrate how it works. And yes, I am selling the PS3 on Ebay, although that was not my original intention. But hearing about people making ten grand... well, let's just say my love for my PS3 is NOT unconditional. Metal Gear Solid 4 doesn't come out for another year anyway! (Although it seems that sales of PS3s are starting to slow down... oh well, I can think of worse things to be stuck with!!)"
Get back to me when you have a beowolf cluster going.
Is this an article about how functional Linux on PS3 is? Or is it intended to spark discussion about PS3 sales on eBay?
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I wish I was a subscriber. This is by far the most blatant slashvertisment I've ever seen. It should be tagged as such.
Oh man, way to get advertising for your nerdy eBay sale on the busiest nerd blog in the universe, for free. I don't blame you for trying, but nonetheless, a part of me has died inside.
Oops, I may already be a troll.
Even as you read this, your pants are strangling your loins! Aaa!
So what works under fedora? Ethernet? Wifi cards (usb ones at least)? How about more than 640x480 resolution? Output to an actual monitor? Video and sound? It would be nice to have some basic questions answered.
My first and foremost question is whether the framebuffer driver that comes with Yellow Dog/RH5 fast enough to do video playback. If yes, PS3/Linux would make an awesome media center.
Using Linux instead of the native media player would be pretty much mandatory, since the built-in one won't uprez DVDs to 1080 -- if rumors are to be believed. Otherwise, since the Sony abstraction layer doesn't allow direct access to the GPU, Linux on the PS3 is just a big useless gimmick. The box is way too expensive for text-only purposes (except perhaps for researchers who just gotta have a cell CPU).
Is it normal that his FC5 lags so badly?
Does it always take 1-2 seconds to re-draw the menu icons?
And what's with the qvga desktop resolution, bad videocard drivers?
Obama likes poor people so much, he wants to make more of them.
That guy is clearly not a linux user, or even a Windows power user. The one useful piece of info I got from that was that it boots and loads KDE quite fast. Some benchmarks would have been nice. Compiling some Cell code on the SDK would have been nicer.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
"The resale demand just isn't there to support the 90% of people who bought PS3s just to flood ebay with them."
Bzzttt!
You fail at damage control clown. There were 400k PS3s in the initial PS3 shipment, the total number on eBay is a tiny fraction of that amount.
Prices are falling because air shipments of new PS3s are already arriving in the US. Target just got another batch in the past day or so. And other retailers are going to be receiving some 600k new units over the next five weeks.
Give the "lol ebay" crap as rest, it just make people look desperate to downplay the massive demand for the console.
http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html/
They claim to get "Supercomputer speeds" out of the PS3 - can anyone confirm this? How many points-per-day can it really do?
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
I like how the maroon talking over this is discussing that it is "compiling the kernel" as the fedora boot messages flow past.
Check out ioquake3.org for a great, free, First-Person Shooter engine!
But does it run Windows?
You have tried to support your argument with faulty reasoning! Go directly to jail; do not pass Go, do not collect $200!
BogoMips dammit!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-3-PS3-Premium-w-Fe dora-Linux-Installed_W0QQitemZ250051615791QQihZ015 QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem
:-)
Sitting at $800 right now, I'd hate to click the Buy it now button though!
Common sense is not so common
If I had known the message I sent in was going to be printed verbatim, I think I would have been smart enough to include a link to my Ebay auction...as it is, I could throw a plug down here but it would get buried in no time. As a note though, I actually went through a lot to get that captured, voiced, cleaned up, composited, etc, so I think if I do get any decent price out of this, I earned it more than the guy who threw in a free candy bar. As a side note, I did learn an awful lot about compositing... So as far as Linux goes, I haven't had any luck with the Network yet, but then again, the Optical drive won't mount and I seem to lack any audio as well. That being said, I am currently re-loading the unit, and this time I am vid-capturing that as well, since a lot of people have asked how this was done. Hopefully I'll have that vid up tomorrow. Personally, this makes for a great exercise in Linux troubleshooting, but I really can't wait for Yellow Dog Linux to come out, seeing as how it is optimized for the PS3. I expect excellent results. Where video quality is concerned, I am capturing it on my old (like way old) MythTV box, so to start with, it's not the best, having an ATI AIW 9000 in it. And since that card doesn't support HD, it's running through a good old-fashioned composite cable. On top of that, Youtube asks that vids be resized to 320x240, so you can do the math. You're lucky it's legible at all. That was really late at night when I did that, so trust me, "Compiling the Kernel" is not that bad....as close as I was to passing out, I'm amazed I didn't refer to its "Registry" or "Guru Meditation Error"....
Oh Noes!! A company that wants to make money, will the madness ever end!?!
there was Slashdot article on Friday with links to how to do it.
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http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/17
Download the otheros.self file from SCEfoo,
http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/
download FC5 PPC DVD,
download the addon's disk (theres some detailed instructions on it too)
ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Sony-PS3/
and install.
You can find more detailed instructions in various places on the net
In a about a week you'll be able to buy Yellow Dog 5.0 for the PS3, supposedly it has 1 click install.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/
I really don't know why you're so skeptical, this is not the first game console from Sony that supports LInux, officially mind you, this isn't some sort of hack.
How about posting about the Wii launch? :)
Minti: What's that huge shuriken in your back?! Kin: It's the instrument of my victory.
The boot/install other OS feature is in the Cross Media bar interface, so yes, it's relatively easy. I've read that you can actually set it so that Linux becomes the default boot environment, which will be a heck of a lot more convenient (when I finally get a PS3) than on the PS2 which requires the "magic" RTE DVD to boot into Linux from being turned off.
But then again, stock certificates don't spontaneously overheat and combust.
Yeah, tell that to anybody that had stock in Enron.
I've been testing PS3 at SCEA for quite a few months now, and I'm not sure about the retail units (we have a special testing units), but there is a means right from the PS3 menu to setup multiple operating systems, with a partitioning tool included in it.
So I have to say I'm as impressed with this story as I was when I received a link from someone detailing the success of someone who thought he was newsworthy by replacing the stock hard drive, as if it wasn't designed to be replaceable.
They all start out in that range. The trend is that they hit $900 at about 1 minute left and then go to $1000-$1200 at the end.
I've been watching them all weekend because I want one but won't pay the amount they're selling for.
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Great...now I'm going to be scared to say "Abit" out loud to anybody...
exactly the point.
go to ebay, pick one up for a hundred dollar premium right now.
wait a few more, the market is flooded.
the problem was that people were not buying the ps3 for themselves, they were buying it to resell. the market has corrected.
check the prices...all of the prices.
they are quite reasonable (compared to the retail price of the ps3)
The phrase "more better" is acceptable English. suck it grammar Nazis
The PS3 speculators are already in trouble. Sure, a few idiots paid $10,000 on day zero, but that's over. Auctions of unsold PS3 systems at bloated prices are now getting zero bids. There are "Buy it Now" prices of $3000, but reality is that units are going unsold at $1100. A sale of the 20GB unit just just occured at $925. Then at $840. One seller writes "I waited over 30 hours in walmart so you don't have to!" He got $780.
The original poster should hang onto his PS3. He's not going to make much money selling it. If you want a PS3, one will be available tomorrow. And the next day. And the day after that. At a modest premium over retail.
Do you pronounce "CLI" as "klee"?
... and then they built the supercollider.
FC5 is not optimized for the PS3. It isn't even using all of the Cell's cores. Wait until YellowDog Linux 5.0 for PS3, which will be optimized, comes out. Apparently Sony provided them with dev boxes so they have been working on it for a while. That will be the one to test, not FC5.
Actually, enron took many months to fall. I don't mean to sound like an ass, but a simple sell-on-stop order would have protected against catastrophic losses (same with Nortel). That doesn't excuse the management of these companies from the fraud they were involved in, but I'm pointing out that market prices for things like stocks don't spontaneously evaporate. Even though there are large 'gaps' in price sometimes, usually a catastrophic price change such as Nortel from $100 down to $1 takes months, even years to happen
Thanks for being very hurtful. I didn't post any links to my auction. I knew already that any mention of that would be buried. I was just showing "proof-of-concept", and I did not once claim to engineer this feat nor do I pretend to be a very experienced Gnome/Fedora user. This was not meant as advertising, and I had no clue that the editors at slashdot would print my post verbatim. But if it were an ad, one would have a link, wouldn't one? I just wanted to show my fellow PS3 enthusiasts something they can do with the system. You really suck. I get to go to sleep with your thoughts in my head. Have a nice day.
How about SCUBA, do you pronounce it S. C. U. B. A.? How about NASA? If the acronym lends itself to pronunciation, then say it as a word. If not, then don't. NSA, USO, or CLI, for example.
Don't steal. The government hates competition.
And there wasn't anything about the PS3 launch either. If you want to see impressions of how the Wii launch went, go over to Joystiq.com. Seems to be very positive though there are some critical comments about some of the games (especially Red Steel) and problems with the system itself (crashes, faulty discs).
...I am reminded of exactly what is wrong with Slashdot these days. That irritating, whiny, continual attempt to get the last word in from kids trying to outgeek one another. The guy's done something interesting - don't flame him for not being a linux guru. If you want a better, more technical explanation then go do it yourself...
Dude, relax. Are you new at this whole "Internet" thing? Here's a tip: develop a thick skin or you'll have an aneurysm inside of 5 months.
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I read your earlier post mentioning that you're an older gentleman getting a late start in computers. Welcome! Please ignore the rantings of immature children here on
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Is that the new euphamism for porn?
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So, whether you think I'm a noob or an idiot or whatever doesn't matter at this point. The fact is, Sony expressly designed the PS3 to run Linux - any version, and they say so on thier site http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index. html . We all know that Fedora is open source, and you can sell computers with Fedora installed without a problem. But my auction was cancelled without any notification from Ebay over "Unauthorized Copies (Copyright)". To quote:
Dear klipp0th,
You recently listed the following auction-style listing:
250051615791 - Playstation 3 PS3 Premium w/ Fedora Linux Installed
The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.
What kind of crap is that!?! Since when is installing Linux on a system that supports Linux violating copyright? It wasn't a paid distro, it was a free one...