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Giant Rabbits To Feed North Korea
iamdrscience writes with news of an East German pensioner who breeds rabbits the size of dogs. Karl Szmolinsky won a prize for breeding Germany's largest rabbit, at 23 lbs., in 2006. News photos reached the North Koreans, who asked through their embassy whether Szmolinsky would be willing to sell them some as foodstocks — each rabbit yields about 15 lb. of meat. A deal was struck and Szmolinsky will be traveling to North Korea in April to help them set up a breeding program. (The photos in the article use the most extreme, contrived camera angles to make the rabbits look even more huge.)
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Is that you, Harvey? I can't see... :)
On the plus side, I don't see anything wrong with eating rabbit meat. Rabbits are well known for their reproductive capabilities, so if it's edible, why not? It beats kimchee...
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In Australia the rabbits are even bigger - I think they call them 'roos'...
Oh well, what the hell...
who breeds rabbits the size of dogs.
Why don't the North Koreans just continue to eat dogs?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation
Can anyone else see next month's headline? ... Giant Rabid Rabbits Wreck Havoc on North Korean Village.
The giant rabbit thing sounds straight out of a cheesy horror film. I think I would go with micro rabbits instead. You could breed them by the millions and just eat them whole like little snacks. They might be a little furry and a little crunchy, but at least there is less danger they will turn out evil and eat your children.
Are they made of wood?
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
And a beef will rise again, broken machine in his hand. Ten words: snapping bunnies twitching gurgling forget the bombs in your eyes. Roaring with whispers to the tiny bunnies SMASH/SPLAT those fucking bunnies. Send them information in a sensationalist manner, THEY CORRUPT. Heads snapping and misspelling eyes twitching in response to the sound of the words. Red world-like words zooming boiling. Moons in the shallow sky. Roaring with whispers to the tiny bunnies SPLAT/SQUISH those fucking bunnies. Twitching bleeding screaming bring the hammer down. Screaming bunnies bleeding bloody bunnies smeared across the ground. Drool spilling down his chin unto his beard as he screams red words at A blank and pointless sky of mothers. Red words popping and crackling black. Ten words: Snapping bunnies twitching gurgling forget the bombs IN YOUR EYES. Forget the bombs in your eyes. Speak the words to crack open the sky
If he thinks that he is going to help the poor starving North Koreans, he will probably be in for the shock of his life. It will probably be for the rich ruling class, or even worse the elite may suffer from poor aim when they go out hunting rabits for sport.
If Korea is really concerned about starvation, they should look at their neighbor China. China went from a disaster of 10's of millions of starving people to total solution almost immediately. How did they do it? They let the farmers have private property rights.
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They may not taste good but they can dance.
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What happens when (not if) N. Korea weaponizes these giant rabbits? Possibly by irradiating them and turning them into an even larger and more fearsome animal (sort of like African killer bees, but with big floppy death ray shooting ears). Seriously folks. Won't someone think of the children?
I'm not a vegetarian myself, but even this raises questions regarding the efficiency of such an operation.
Is it more efficient to feed these rabbits vegetable matter to be converted to protein (which, according to the article, is what the diet of many N. Koreans is deficient in), or would it be better instead to grow protein-rich plants that can be consumed directly by the people?
If the rabbits can consume grasses and other things that humans are unable to digest efficiently, and convert that into protein, then I suppose it would make sense.
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North Korea is not like China, not even close. It is very much like Soviet Union under Stalin. It is pretty much a time capsule of the 50s. Google for some blogs or photos from westerners who went there, it is a totally surreal experience.
Large empty streets, every foreigner is followed by an assigned guide. If a tourist as much as takes a digital photo of one of their leader's statues that is off center or has the head cut-off they are forced to retake the picture. There are stories of children being used to help harvest poppies for heroin production after they get off school. Everything is a show, they use all of their funds to build their military while hundreds of thousands are starving. Their leader is crazy and he has nukes. Iraq was a kindergarten compared to NK. Until the crazy dictators are ruling the country no amount of giant fluffy (and yummy) bunnies will save the people from starvation...
I don't know the technical name for it, but eating the ultra lean rabbit meat is known to cause malnutrition and eventual poisoning and death. I have seen several "adventure" videos where the survival experts remind viewers not to go very long on rabbit meat alone, for its lack of fat, and augment it with other sources of fat.
In Soviet North Korea, rabbits eat you!
Seriously though, how absurd is it that anyone thinks this is going to make any difference: it's a Communist dictatorship. The government runs food production and distribution, so of course they don't have enough food. All the rabbits in the world won't change that. It's sad and absurd that the average North Korean is still paying the price for a government that ignores that basic fact, proven so thoroughly and with so many graves in the 20th century.
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Aren't these giant rabbits subject to military export control laws? An army of killer rabbits is no joking matter. It would be safer let the North Koreans have nukes than an army of killer rabbits.
I disagree. I've made it plenty of times to California being only able to shoot and kill rabbits.
PS we used a raft to get past the last river.
PPS my wife died of cholera
The dogs will have to evolve and get bigger to be able to kill the rabbits. That way they get bigger dogs too!
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For those who thought that the North Korean nuclear test was a hoax, take that!
I'd say that the N.Koreans will be breeding these wabbits to release into the DMZ (detonate the mines) as a response to everyone laughing at their low-yield nuclear capability demonstration. Kim Jong whatever his name is got the idea from Snakes On A Plane. Think of the global (not to mention local) impact of thousands of bunnies being blown-up in the DMZ (and seen on CNN). Only a evil genius would bring the world to the brink this way. F@#king brilliant, I with I had thought of it first!
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North Korea spends %50 of it's expenditures on Military. It is a massive force, as all citizens are required to spend 10 years in it. A massive force which is a consumer of food, and is reputed to steal it at their behest. Kim Il-Sung is credited for pushing forth "revolutionary" agricultural techniques, that in reality were disastrous failures. North Korea's recent public escapades, among other previous activities, have jeopardized vital capital from South Korea (NK = cheap labour.) It has little credibility in the international marketplace, as the regime is notorious for failing to repay debts. At the same time, the regime doesn't want to initiate trade relations, because it goes against it's Juche philosophy. In truth, these are all acts of twisted paranoia for the sake of the regime's self-preservation. The starvation isn't a product of North Korea's poverty or lack of natural resources. It's a product of North Korea's regime.
A regime that would rather see the misery of all it's citizens than reunifying under the leadership of the south.
Well, at least we know that North Korea is now safe from Jimmy Carter. ;)
For the love of God hasn't anyone seen "Night of the Lepus!" Deforest Kelly is dead. Who's gonna save us from the giant rabbits this time? I hope they have a rail system they can electricute the super bunnies on. If people would just watch more cheesy SciFi films we wouldn't have these problems. SciFi Channel is there to inform people! Next thing you know we'll be dealing with giant snakehead fish in our lakes. Watch these films and learn! Giant rabbits turn carnivous. They knew this in the 70s. How soon we forget!
Did anyone else find this quote amusing, from the original article?
"I'm not increasing production and I'm not taking any more orders after this. They cost a lot to feed," he [German Farmer] said.
They're too expensive to feed for the German farmer to continue. By German rabbit-breeding standards. Now if the North Korean regime already (and allegedly) finds it too expensive to feed it's own people on even the lowest standards, how is diverting those much needed foodstuffs to rabbits going to solve anything?
Usually there's a logic to this. Unfortunately, the same people powering this decision are the same people that had the foresight of building a massive hotel that couldn't be finished (you know what I'm talking about if you're familiar with Pyongyang.)
TFA uses metric units, but the slashdot machinery has for some reason converted it to imperial units. Why?
The photos in the article use the most extreme, contrived camera angles to make the rabbits look even more huge.
I dunno about that, but this shot could get him in a lot of trouble with the law in some places.
How many kilograms of food will be needed to feed each rabbit need to produce the 7 kilograms of rabbit meat? There is also a possibility of an ecological disaster waiting to happen in the form of an explosion of the rabbit population due to its large reproductive nature. If they got into the wild, they would strip the land of any agriculture left and the people would be far worse off than there are now. The same thing happened when rabbits were introduced to Australia. The best solution is for North Korea to stop feeding it's military machine and feed it's people.
Father Turtle: So you nervous for the race tomorrow, son?
Turtle Jr: No way, Dad! Us turtles NEVER lose to the rabbit!
Father Turtle: Riight... but I think you better have a look at the competition.
* In thunders the giant German Rabbit dwarfing Father Turtle and his son *
Giant Rabbit: Guten Tag!
Communism is just a precursor of Dictatorship.
This is because Marx had this stupid idea of condoning or even encouraging violence as the way to achieve Communism.
So when you have a "Communist" Revolution ala Marx, guess who ends up becoming leader of the country?
The one who was willing AND able to exert the most violence.
Yeah, that's right, most of the time you get Mr "Silence all Opposition".
Marx's Communism is severely flawed because of this.
You basically have to wait till you get taken over by a Benevolent Dictator, or the Evil Dictator hands power to nondictators, or Mr Dictator has a change of heart.
> move to countries like the US.
Should be: "move to countries like what the US used to be".
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Dictatorship is a precursor to communism.
Move specifically, the "dictatorship of the proletariat". It is in the official Marxist road to Communism, a temporary state of dictatorship that should lead to the promised land.
Just about all self-declared Marxist regimes claimed to be the "dictatorship of the proletariat" state, being bright enough not to claim to the people that the current state of affairs was he best they could hope for. The one exception I know of was Albania, which at some point claimed to have reached "true Communism".
It has been rough to get there, but those intellectuals that still dream of Communism have mostly reached the conclusion that any kind of dictatorship of temporarily suspension civil rights are *not* acceptable steps on the way. It just took a few (well, rather more than a few) million lives to get to that insight.
Hopefully it will take less than that for the neo-Conservative to see that torture and other suspension of civil rights are not acceptable means to reach their goals, neither abroad or at home. Unless, of course, that is their goals.
Of course, the question is: The size of which dog? After all, there's a huge size difference between dogs and dogs!
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>Seriously though, how absurd is it that anyone thinks this is going to make any difference
In Roman Britain Rabbits were an important food supplement. A large number could be easily be fed and cared for by the Children while the parents did more arduous agricultural tasks such as attempting to grow crops or maintain larger animals.
Pretty bad that in 2006 we have come to this though, especially when the US and EU ploughing food back into the soil and African countries would dearly love to be able to have foreign food markets.
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In the future, they'll be able to reuse 97% of that headline.
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North Korea uses prisoners in their various prison camps to breed rabbits, which are killed for meat. (not for the prisoners, who must eat bugs, worms, raw rats, etc. in order to survive) Kang Chol-Hwan who was imprisoned with his entire family in the 'redeeemables' area of the Yodok prison camp wrote a book that describes his experiences, "The Aquariums of Pyongyang". For anyone interested in North Korean human rights, its a must read. Kang Chol-Hwan is now a reporter for the South Korean newspaper the Chosun Ilbo on North Korean affairs. He's one of the most successful North Korean refugees living in South Korea.
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Most North Korean refugees who manage to escape into China lead hunted lives in a terrible limbo of exploitation, terrified that they may be returned to North Korea, where people are often executed for the crime of trying to leave the country and bringing shame upon the Dear Leader.
If you read Aquariums realize that Kang Chol-Hwan's nine years in the Yodok prison camp as a boy were in the least brutal area of the least brutal camp, the only area where people are ever released. Many are sentenced to work on secret underground projects, similar to Hitler's rocket works at Peeneemunde, that only offer death through overwork as an escape, once you go in, you never come out.
Sun Ok-Lee is a North Korean refugee living in the US who worked as a bookeeper in another slave labor camp and her account to the US House is probably the most realistic account of these camps. She is one of less than five people known to have ever left one and lived.. Thousands die each year in these camps. They work people to death. (Each person, and their fat, represents useful energy to be extracted before killing them, as you will see)
Her account is at http://ncafe.com/northkorea/SunOkLeeTestimony_w_l
23 lbs = 10.4 kilograms
15 lbs = 6.8 kilograms
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All the rabbits in the world won't change that.
Maybe not but it certainly might help. Rabbits can survive on grass and crude silage, can be grown in relatively small areas and reproduce reliably. Faster than goats, the most widely eaten animal on the planet.
Similar husbandry programs with cavia porcellus, guinea pigs to you, have helped many families lift themselves out of poverty in Peru and other areas in South America.
Rabbits would be better suited to the colder climate of North Korea. The fur would provide a secondary revenue source. It may not sound like much but when you're dirt poor having meat to eat and furs to trade is big deal.
How is this not a good thing? Why would you want to see the North Korean people starve just because their government is the asshat of the world? That's almost as silly as people hating all Americans because Bush is a douche bag. It's not like they elected that idiot in North Korea and there's growing evidence we didn't elect our idiot, either.
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Dude, here's a nickel, buy a clue. Sure, large bureaucracies cause inefficiencies but that is so far from the primary reason for North Korea's current situation it's absurd, in fact offensive, to make the comparison. You are seriously lacking in a sense of perspective.
Go for it, son, define "large" for me. Give me some numbers. We have plenty of bureaucracies that are as large or far larger than the entire North Korean government, General Motors, for example, and while they may be inefficient, they do not leave millions of their own starving to death or subject to a high likelihood of torture or death. Equating the two is beyond wrong, it's flat out irresponsible.
Those of us living in reality point, rather, to lack of accountability, lack of transparency, inefficient cross-communications, y'know, the stuff that us actual experts in industrial organization are always willing to explain to those clued enough to pay attention.
You go out there and talk to some genuine experts in the reasons for North Korea's current state. Read up on, say, rule of law. See what energetically capitalist outlets like the Wall Street Journal have to say about the causes of North Korea's problems.Then come back and we'll have this chat again.
Oh, and if you're so hyped on decentralization, tell me, what in the real world have you done to bring that about? Personally, I've been working at that for over twenty years, just testified this past week on government procedures to New York's city council. This wasn't so bad since I've been dealing with the senior relevant councilman since, oh, about two months since he was elected, back in '01.
So, how about you. What have you accomplished?
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To which the parent said,
An assertion that is completely obvious needs little or no backing up. But here is some just for fun:
Russia: Stalin, Lenin
China: Mao
Cambodia: Pol Pot
Perhaps the author of the parent should pull his head out of his ass.
Perhaps the author of the parent needs to find one case where Marxism did not lead inexorably to dictatorship.
Then, if he hasn't killed himself over wasting his life believing in fairy tales, he should try to figure out why Marxism leads inevitably to dictatorship.
slopes go both ways, we went up a slope, now were going back down one. Returning to the good old days is the problem.
What if Tetris was invented by Nazis?
If I remember correctly it was an executive order that create Japanese internment camps. Not legislation, not a federal court, but an order sent out on the sole authority of the President. At least Guantanamo Bay has congressional support.
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