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PC World's 20 Most Annoying Tech Products

Craig Sender writes to tell us that PC World has compiled a list of the 20 most annoying tech products of all time. Topping the list was AOL's ubiquitous free trial CD's. "This list hardly covers every annoying tech product ever made. But where did this list of 20 come from? [PC World Readers] picked the worst ones by voting in our Annoyances Poll, and you'll see your Top 10 most annoying products flagged with icons. Just for fun, we've added 10 more products that didn't get enough votes from you in our poll but that we found particularly irksome."

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  1. PC World is pretty damn annoying too... by FatSean · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can they possibly cram any more ads and ugly navigation into that abortion of a website. Blech!

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    1. Re:PC World is pretty damn annoying too... by EggMan2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah TFA is would fit nicely on two pages, but they spread it out to 7 pages in a small column covered in ads on all sides.

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    2. Re:PC World is pretty damn annoying too... by misleb · · Score: 1

      At least you can block the ads, unlike their print magazine.

      -matthew

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    3. Re:PC World is pretty damn annoying too... by eneville · · Score: 1

      Yeah TFA is would fit nicely on two pages, but they spread it out to 7 pages in a small column covered in ads on all sides. i for one personally welcome our 'unreadable ad infested' new overlords...

      but seriously, advert infested pages should be item #1.
    4. Re:PC World is pretty damn annoying too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      oh wah wah wah. here you go

  2. Psychic powers tingling by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I predict a cavalcade of Microsoft "jokes." God bless Slashdot.

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  3. No reference to the Cue Cat? by EggMan2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No reference to the Cue Cat?

    That was one of the most annoying, dumbest, biggest debacles I can remember. For those that do not recall the Cue Cat was a bar cade reader in the form of a cat, that clever marketeers thought consumers would use by scanning barcodes on print ads in magazines and newspapers.

    Cue Cat was mailed to *all* Wired magazine subscribers.

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    1. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Radio Shack gave me one for free, and I had some fun hacking code for it to be able to organize my CD collection with a free handheld scanner.

      I don't know how they define "annoying". Someone gave me a free gizmo, I don't know why that should annoy me.

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    2. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How about a free RFID chip implanted in your hand?

      </sarcasm>

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    3. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 1

      The RFID chip isn't the problem. It's the asshats that would take the data without your permission and or use that information for in an unethical manner. If (when) everyone gets an implant, it needs to be read only and make it so access unauthorized by the implantee is a capital offense.

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    4. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      "It's the asshats that would take the data without your permission and or use that information for in an unethical manner"

      Thus the "annoyance" or "extreme invasion of privacy and civil liberties" part of "annoying" technology.

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    5. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by amrust · · Score: 1

      Wow, I can't believe I forgot about this thing. I still have mine somewhere. It was interesting to play with for about 10 minutes. That's about when the average person realized: "Hey, they're probably tracking my scans in some big mail marketing database!".

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    6. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by Virgil+Tibbs · · Score: 1

      how about a free magnet implanted in your hand?

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    7. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by ptbarnett · · Score: 1
      No reference to the Cue Cat?

      The Cue Cat is included in The 25 Worst Tech Products of All Time

    8. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by JustNilt · · Score: 1

      That's funny. I keep my CueCat on a shelf for giggles. It's one of my favorite pieces of "stupid tech" in my little collection and never fails to get a chuckle from folks after I explain what it was for. I though I was the only one.

      I didn't see this in here yet: Print version of the article. I found it ironic that an article about annoying tech had so many annoying ads and clutter alongside.

      The AOL CDs have always been one of my personal big annoyances. I still get the freaking things because my in-laws lived here years ago and had AOL for about 12 seconds. Overall, however, I find multi-page articles loaded with ads the biggest frustration in tech. When will they learn that if only the ads weren't annoying, I wouldn't object?

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    9. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1

      No reference to the Cue Cat?
      Of course not. There was nothing inherently annoying about the Cue Cat. It was a free barcode scanner that quickly gained open source drivers. The company behind it might have been fools but that doesn't diminish the usefulness of the device.
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    10. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by TadMSTR · · Score: 1

      I remember getting one of those. I also remember it never being used. Wonder how much was wasted making that one.

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    11. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Annoying or not, they were just ahead of their time. Barcode reading with cell phones is already big in Japan, and doubtless will come here soon. Be prepared for the onslaught

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    12. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by zenwaves · · Score: 1

      I have a Cue Cat hanging in my classroom. When the kids ask me about it, I tell them the funny story of people who thought you might want to spend the day scanning the barcodes of everything in your house! I sure am glad dumb ideas die and never come back !!!

    13. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      That was one of the most annoying, dumbest, biggest debacles I can remember. For those that do not recall the Cue Cat was a bar cade reader in the form of a cat, that clever marketeers thought consumers would use by scanning barcodes on print ads in magazines and newspapers.
      unfortunately i broke the one someone gave me (damaged the cable then lost the lens while working on fixing it and i never got arround to buying another one on ebay or similar (i'm in the uk so i don't think they were ever officially availble.

      ok so it wasn't the worlds most robust barcode reader and you needed special software to decode the encrypted data stream and get you a usable barcode number but given that they were availible free or very cheap thats forgivable.

      they could read at least some generic barcode types (e.g. code 3 of 9) as well as quite a few specific purpose ones such as UPC EAN ISBN and various others.

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    14. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by Nyph2 · · Score: 1

      Cue cats could be cool though.
      My friend used one of those & a library card with a barcode as his login to linux. So this had a security by obscurity level to it as I was the only other person to know at his normal password prompt the way to log in was scanning his normal library card into the cue cat... and even if you knew how he logged in getting that card from him could be quite difficult as it never left his person.

    15. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How difficult would it be to combine a modern optical mouse with a bar code reader?

    16. Re:No reference to the Cue Cat? by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      What I found annoying was the loud beeps on TV. The Cue Cat also had some kind of system where your computer would listen for beeps and go to websites when it hears them. For weeks NBC had a beep played with every preview, so that commercial breaks were filled with annoying loud beeps. I didn't want anything to do with such a stupid idea, but I still had to endure all that beeping on TV.

  4. Re:seems empty . . . by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Going from 31 dead people in a senseless mass killing to yet another top 20 list from a worthless site.

    Worthless? Dude, you got first post!

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  5. Again? by Stormwatch · · Score: 0

    I recall a list much like this, not too long ago. Dupe?

    1. Re:Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or an even better one: "Slashdot's 20 most annoying duplicate posters who post about duplicate lists everyone runs like Holiday Gift Guides and who the **** cares anyway?" ;-)

    2. Re:Again? by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I've got a better idea for an article: "Slashdot's 20 most annoying duplicate articles.""

      No need - they'll be duped again in a few days.

    3. Re:Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a dupe everyday with these woman around here constantly whinning about DRM, MS, Windows and anything that makes them more bitter at hating everything around the world.

      One big circle jerkoff here and they are all locked in the closet with eachother.

    4. Re:Again? by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      How about the 20 most annoying pages of a 500 page ad-laden javascript site? My vote goes to page number two. Of course, that's when I immediately closed my tab.

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    5. Re:Again? by MattPat · · Score: 1

      It's not a dupe, you're thinking of the 25 worst tech products (linked in TFA), this is the 20 most annoying tech products. From the article:

      Unlike PC World's 25 Worst Products of All Time, irksome products aren't necessarily bad, buggy, or dangerous. But they all have one or two traits that make you want to wrap them in 200 pounds of steel cable and toss them off the side of a boat.
    6. Re:Again? by AmiAthena · · Score: 1

      You mix your metaphors so beautifully.

    7. Re:Again? by indifferent+children · · Score: 1
      I've got a better idea for an article: "Slashdot's 20 most annoying duplicate articles."

      Actually those are only 10 annoying articles (the other 10 are dupes of the first 10).

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  6. Dumb, but too short lived to be annoying by StefanJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are a lot of really stupid ideas out there that I wouldn't put on a "most annoying" list because no one used them.

    The Cue Cat is one of them. No one forced you to use it. The bar codes on the ads didn't cause leprosy or make your eyes bleed.

    Of course, if I was one of the investors who paid to send out thousands of the things for free, then I'd have cause to be annoyed.

    I'd put Microsoft Bob on the list too. The ads and promotions were annoying, but again, no one forced you to install or use it.

    1. Re:Dumb, but too short lived to be annoying by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      The most annoying thing about the cue cat was that it didn't work on my Mac. A few years later, I got a Windows to be compatible with something or the other and one of the first things I did was install my Cue Cat, and it didn't work. By then, Forbes was no longer publishing the bar codes, but I had heard that you could scan your groceries and get info from the manufactureres, so I was hoping to get into a corporate website, but apparently, whatever was necessary to get it to work was no longer working.

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  7. Re:seems empty . . . by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about the other 100,000 or so people who die every single day, many of them senselessly? Should Slashdot be given over as a portal to count the dead, perhaps?

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  8. Again? by pclminion · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've got a better idea for an article: "Slashdot's 20 most annoying duplicate articles."

  9. Lotus Notes by alexj33 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where's Lotus Notes??? Should be in the top 5. Horrible, horrible, non-intuitive mass of confusion.

    Everything a UI shouldn't be.

    1. Re:Lotus Notes by nog_lorp · · Score: 1

      "Everything a UI shouldn't be."
      Everything? Wow, I was expecting like... at least "Causes seisures" and "Commits genocide"!

    2. Re:Lotus Notes by treeves · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it *can* cause seizures. Probably nausea too.

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    3. Re:Lotus Notes by necrogram · · Score: 1

      My favorite was the IBM row printer III. Its a dot matirx printer with a bit of nasty tractor feed issues. 49 out of 50 pages would feed fine, but then it would tear a little piece of feed edges off, the smallest friggen piece too, it would destroy every following sheet in the print job until it just jammed up.

    4. Re:Lotus Notes by maamold · · Score: 1

      Lotus Notes is not a bad product. Administrators that don't know how to properly setup and use lotus Notes are bad. Properly used an administrator/programmer can setup a GUI that is user friendly, but not many want to spend the time to do that, hence users are bothered with how Lotus Notes works for them.

    5. Re:Lotus Notes by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      oooooooooooooh, I'm getting flashbacks. That single design flaw contributed about 90% of the total annoyance that I experienced whilst working for IBM many years ago*. I don't know how many countless hours I spent tinkering, thinking that if I just got the alignment *perfect* it'd stop doing it. I even resorted to making a stand for the printer out of coke cans so the paper feed would have more tension on it as it exited the printer. If I'd known it was driving others nuts at the time it'd have been easier to cope...!
      * bearing in mind this was IBM Global Services, you can imagine how much annoyance this might have been...

    6. Re:Lotus Notes by GlobalMind · · Score: 1

      LOL Insightfull? Mod +2? LOL I should expect little else on /.

      So now what was the last version of Notes you used by chance? Just curious.

      When I saw this topic appear I just had to do a search on the page since I knew the anti-Notes trolls would be out in force.

      How predictable. No creativity.

      K.

  10. aol cds by mastershake_phd · · Score: 3, Funny

    #1 AOL CDs. I used to work at the post office, they some people decorated entire walls with undeliverable AOL CDs.

  11. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why is it that when I saw another story above the shootings story, I knew that the first comment would be about this.

    This may sound heartless, but the world marches on. Perhaps you need to take a personal day so that the rest of us can continue living.

  12. The little dog in Windows Search by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Funny
    is the MOST annoying thing I have ever seen.

    The thing that really gets me, is that when you click the "Kill the dog" option, instead of instantly vanishing, like any reasonably annoyance, they have this obnoxious beast do a little animation.

    Look, you clueless fools, if I like the dog, I would not be getting rid of him. You KNOW I don't want him, but you senselessly subject me to the EXACT kind of animation that I told you I disliked.

    What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?

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    1. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Tx · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?

      For the love of god, stop putting ideas in their heads!
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    2. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by harvey_peterson · · Score: 1, Funny

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice? Sadly, my cell phone does this. When I turn the speaker phone off it plays a song. I have no idea why changing the speaker phone setting deserves a song to begin with, but there you go. Also plays a song when the phone powers down.
    3. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?

      Cell phone manufacturers beat them to it.

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    4. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by thewils · · Score: 1

      I agree about the dog to some extent, but far more annoying for me is when you are shutting down windows and you get the little dialog boxes coming up with "Ending so-and-so" task. It gives you the option, with a nice little button to "End immediately".

      So, like, I'm trying to shut down here. Why are you showing me all these dialogs so that I can shut down faster. If you can shut faster yourself, why not do it without me having to sit and monitor the sodding thing for christ's sake?

      At least with the dog you can turn it off, eventually.

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    5. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 4, Funny
      AMEN!! Preach it, Brother!

      I recently discovered another reason to hate the dog. I had recently started a new job, and hadn't gotten around to all the standard tweaks required to make a new Windows install usable. I had done a search and had kept the search box open behind some other windows while working on other things. For the next couple of days I was trying to figure out why my hard drive or CDROM was making two short but loud seeks every once in awhile.

      Eventually I realized that the freaking dog was scratching himself. Drove me crazy for several days trying to figure out what the noise was, and it turns out to be Microsoft trying to be cute.

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    6. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Eventually I realized that the freaking dog was scratching himself. Drove me crazy for several days trying to figure out what the noise was, and it turns out to be Microsoft trying to be cute.

      Ahh ... the dog had fleas. Proof that Microsoft software is infested with bugs.

    7. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know about you, I'd rather the tasks end themselves rather than windows kill9'ing them and losing all their unsaved data. But maybe that's just me.

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    8. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by nuzak · · Score: 1

      There is an option buried deep in the registry that gets rid of the confirmation dialog and makes windows effectively kill-9 the process after the timeout. Shutdowns never hang indefinitely after setting that. If anyone can remember what it is, I'd love to know so I can set it.

      Of course it's probably gone in vista.

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    9. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      It shows you those dialogs for programs that have not responded to being told politely to shut down. This indicates they were still busy doing something, and you're being given the opportunity to catch your brain that almost killed the report you forgot to save before you chose to shut down. Don't click End Now if you realize that you may not have saved something important that you had open. Otherwise, click it because something got stuck but you didn't need to preserve any data. That's a LEFT click by the way.

    10. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you just click on him at any time that he is doing his little "going away" animation, he disappears instantly. Especially cathartic if you have a custom "crosshairs" cursor.

    11. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      What do kill-4,5,7,8,and 10-13 do?

      I see what the other numbers do:
      (from the man page)
                Some of the more commonly used signals:
                1 HUP (hang up)
                2 INT (interrupt)
                3 QUIT (quit)
                6 ABRT (abort)
                9 KILL (non-catchable, non-ignorable kill)
                14 ALRM (alarm clock)
                15 TERM (software termination signal)

    12. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      here it is

      the first entry (clears the pagefile on shutdown) is not needed, but is included in every page on this for some reason.

      the waittokill is in miliseconds and i like to have it around 5000 personally to give the program a little more time to clue in before it gets killed.

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    13. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      Plus, in half of my PC boxes, I tell it to stop searching (and crushing my CPU capacity) ... and like a puppy, it "forgets" and starts searching again!

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    14. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by quanticle · · Score: 1

      The problem with that scenario is that windows doesn't really send a signal to the task in question (at least not a signal that most tasks respond to). So, the choice in most cases is: 1) Wait 10 seconds for Windows to kill -9 the task or 2)Hit the button now and kill -9 the task yourself. In a situation like that, most people will hit the manual override.

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    15. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by nbehary · · Score: 1

      Really, they get useless for that purpose though. Maybe, i'm just stupid, but I assume that I really wanted to shutdown, and I don't need the OS to tell me anything, just shutdown. (becuase 99% of the time, they is no reason for the tasks not to just end.) So, now, yes, sometimes it's trying to stop me from losing data, which is helpful.....but not when it does it all the time even when there's nothing to save. I'll accept the 1 time a month when I actually forgot to save something and lose that over the annoyance.......

    16. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by reedjjjr · · Score: 1

      I remember trying to help my wife with some Microsoft lunacy on her computer when the dog appeared to me for the first, particularly inoportune time. I muttered some obscenity, and she exclaimed, "OH! I think it's CUTE!".
      That's what sells Windows.

    17. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Tokerat · · Score: 1

      How potentially damaging to a system could this be? I'd love to implement it on my work machine but fear coming in the next morning to have hosed Lotus Notes and some of the other software we run.

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    18. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by compro01 · · Score: 1

      AFAICT, it'll simply dump whatever is being worked on, (same as if you killed it in the task manager or by the "end now" button in the dialog that comes up), losing any unsaved changes to the currently open file(s).

      worst case would be if the program is forced to terminate while it is writing to a file, which would corrupt it, which is the reason why i like to increase the timetokill wait to give me an extra margin of safety.

      though since you're shutting down, you've likely already closed any non-background programs, so the risk is absolutely marginal at best.

      Disclaimer: This is a stupid idea that will probably set your house on fire, ruin your crops, and send famine and pestilence across the land. Your mileage will vary. I'm probably lying. You have been warned.

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    19. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 1

      What do you have against the cute little doggy on windows search???

      I can guarantee you, if you're so cold-hearted that you can't appreciate a nice little puppy in the middle of a boring workday, you will NEVER get laid. Chicks love cute animals, and they love guys that love cute animals.

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    20. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by rrohbeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice? It'll crank up the volume and say "An application is trying to mute the audio output, Cancel or Allow?"
    21. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by AmiAthena · · Score: 1

      At least in that scenario, there's an option to make the programs stop.

      Once upon a time, we had a computer that it didn't seem wise to leave running unattended for fear that it might catch on fire and burn down the house. (We had to keep the case off and a fan pointed towards that corner. That was a fun machine.) I would come home from school around 3, and log in to AOL to check my mail and all that other nifty internet stuff before leaving for work by 4. With obnoxious frequency, AOL would decide to forcibly download an update. We were on dialup. This could take over 20 minutes. I was afraid to Ctrl-Alt-Del it, because it might break AOL, and my mom would kill me if she couldn't log on when she got home. So I'd stand there staring daggers at the screen while it took it's sweet ass time downloading, and then forced a restart of AOL and/or Windows. AOL took a minute or two to load; Windows took around on 5 a good day. After Windows started, there was still the wait while all the swell little tray icons loaded and whatever else it was doing. After all of that, THEN I could shut down Windows, which took a long time, and then I could finally wait for it to give me permission to hit the power button. Add in about a 1 in 10 chance of getting a BSOD at some point in the process.

      Needless to say, my boss was amused. But I'd rather get in trouble at work than burn my house down. There may have been ways around part or all of that, but I wasn't aware of any and I was NOT willing to risk messing up the computer and having my mom break my fingers. So I resentfully submitted to this process that sometimes took 45 minutes. Why couldn't they just give me a diologue box? Sure they're annoying when they ask essentially rhetorical questions, but I *much* prefer being given a choice to having my computer hijacked. All of this stuff was supposed to be making my life easier, but instead it did its best to define annoying. I think I'm gonna go call my therapist now... sigh.

    22. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
      What do kill-4,5,7,8,and 10-13 do?

      You can see a full list of signals here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(computing), but:

      4 SIGCONT - continue if stopped
      5 SIGFPE - floating point exception: "erroneous arithmetic operation"

      7 SIGILL - illegal instruction
      8 SIGINT - interrupt

      and;

      10 SIGPIPE - write to pipe with no one reading
      11 SIGQUIT - quit
      12 SIGSEGV - segmentation violation
      13 SIGSTOP - stop executing temporarily

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    23. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by grrrl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?

      Cell phone manufacturers beat them to it. You're right! How come my phone (v3) has to beep so damn loudly everytime I turn silent-mode on or off?
    24. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by grrrl · · Score: 1

      Oh I HATE the dog!!! (and Windows search in general, so I get doubly irritated)

    25. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by MartinB · · Score: 1

      If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?
      Close: SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW! SHARE AND ENJOY!, repeated until you offer to zap off to its main memory banks and reprogram with a large axe.
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    26. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      What's next? If I tell you to turn off the sound, will you up the volume to maximum and play a recording of "SHUTTING SOUND OFF NOW!" in a really whiny voice?

      No, they'll take the MIB from Apple's "security" ad, have him pop up on the screen and say loudly: "You are turning off the sound. Cancel or allow?"

      Of course Apple will already have a similar feature in Leopard, just with Steve Jobs trying to sell you an iPhone.

      Linux will probably play an RMS rant.

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    27. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't the only one. For ages, I kept thinking someone was jacking with my computer until I finally figured it out. By the time you would look at the search, it wasn't making that sound any more. Irritated the 5h17 out of me until then.

    28. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by thewils · · Score: 1

      I did it again last night. This is _after_ I shut all user windows down, having saved all my work (I just use that machine for synching iTunes/iPod) and do the Start->Shutdown bit.

      This time the dialog wasn't on the screen long enough for me to read it properly - something about .Net Broadcast or whatever. Whatever, just shut the sucker down so I can go to bed, thanks.

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    29. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by makeajazznoisehere · · Score: 1

      Yes, also a major Windows annoyance of mine... not only is everything "cute" and "helpful" but it's annoying to turn this stuff off when you don't want/need it. But the dog has a workaround... simply double-click him again, and he goes "poof."

    30. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Wow. I hope that MS can somehow get you your wasted 4.6 seconds back.

    31. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      It vanished quickly because the program did respond and close, just a little late is all. But at any rate, I guess I must appologize on behalf of all mankind that software development has not reached the stage where your computer can read your mind to know exactly what you were trying to do. Sorry about that.

    32. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by thewils · · Score: 1

      I must appologize on behalf of all mankind that software development has not reached the stage where your computer can read your mind to know exactly what you were trying to do


      No need to apologize but thanks anyway. "Shutdown, now!" doesn't take too much mind reading. Linux does it all the time.
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    33. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Windows does in fact send a signal via a window message. I don't recall the name of it off the top of my head, I haven't done any Windows stuff in a few years. Anyhow, the message is something like WM_WINDOWSWANTSTOSHUTDOWN. Apps are supposed to respond to this, which most do. Of course, the app might throw up a modal dialog in response, and if you don't answer it, the program hangs until Windows guns it. Other apps (like Office) often simply take longer than 20 seconds to shut down.

      I try to be patient unless I know it won't matter. Of course, something you just need to nuke apps with extreme prejudice... especially Explorer, which after 12 years is still very flaky at times, and locks up if you look at it crosseyed.

      Anyhow, this shutdown behavior actually makes sense, and when your apps are efficient and well-behaved it's not a problem.

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    34. Re:The little dog in Windows Search by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
      First, it's about it being ANNOYING, not about the time. Second, it's 4.6 seconds times what, 1 billion or so windows users?

      Even assuming 3.6/4.6 people like the vile beast, that is 1 billion seconds stolen.

      1 billion seconds = 31 years of their customers time they stole.

      I say, we should arrest the thieves and sentence them to 30 years hard time, to make up for their theft of our time.

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  13. CD Burners and Zip disks by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    In terms of pure annoyance, not just bad or lousy tech, I would rate CD burners before they were reliable and "click-of-death" zip disks as some of the most exasperating things that I have had to deal with.

    I must have wasted dozens of hours with 1x and 2x CD burners before they became mature. I can still remember staring at the little progress bar.

    95% completed -- 96% completed -- 97% completed -- 98% completed -- FAILURE BUFFER UNDERRUN.

    AAAAAAAGH!

    1. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Well, I had a SCSI burner... It didn't happen all that much, but if it happened you were very much pissed off because a single CD-R would cost about 6€....

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    2. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by GonzoTech · · Score: 1

      Zip disks sucked, but CD Burners not working correctly in their infancy? That's like bitching about how hot girls don't flirt with you so you slam your penis in a car door repeatedly to vent frustration. CD Burners worked great then for what they were, and they work awesome now from how far they've come.

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    3. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ah, yes. Iomega Jazz drives.

      I remember them.

      I remember multiple head crashes. Data forever lost because I was dumb enough to use them as my primary data drive.

      I also remember the sound of plastic and metal shattering when the disk was thrown against a brick wall across the room when it couldn't be read.

      Those were the days.

      Please excuse me while I go get a drink...

    4. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I used to work for Dell major accounts desktop support. One of the best laughs I've ever had was when someone called in from IOmega for a replacement Zip drive. "The one I have just goes click, click, click."

      I was very grateful for the mute button that day.

      -Peter

    5. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by Divebus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jaz drives developed some nice options - you could lose 1GB of data all at once, or 2GB of data all at once with the newer drives.

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    6. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's like bitching about how hot girls don't flirt with you so you slam your penis in a car door repeatedly to vent frustration. No, it's nothing like that. What even possessed you to come up with that analogy?
    7. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      A little over ten years ago I was a graduate student in a neuroscience lab doing fMRI research. We would do MRI scans of people's heads and generate huge three dimensional matrices of voxel intensities, one per timeslice. Nowadays that wouldn't be a lot of data but back then you couldn't fit more than two or three datasets on a server HD before someone would run du and send you a nasty mail. The rate limiting step preventing research from going forward in that lab was burning CD-ROMs; I am not kidding. It seemed all anyone did all day was sit around burning data taken the night before at 3 AM (when the MRI was free) onto countless CDs. Either that or you were waiting for the next guy to finish his burn. I forget how long the burners were running but 50% of burns would fail at the end. The other 50% would usually leave you with an unreadable puck. And someone was always waiting for you to finish. Once in a while a readable CD actually came out of the burner. You had to do it at 1X though.

    8. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by uhlume · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no, it's like grating a turtle with a cheese hammer.
       
      ...Oh, I'm sorry — I thought this was the surrealist analogy thread.

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    9. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. Iomega Jazz drives.

      We gave my friend's Jaz the nickname of the "WORN drive": write once, read never.

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    10. Re:CD Burners and Zip disks by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

      I must have wasted dozens of hours with 1x and 2x CD burners before they became mature. I can still remember staring at the little progress bar.

      95% completed -- 96% completed -- 97% completed -- 98% completed -- FAILURE BUFFER UNDERRUN.


      And the cause for 99.9% of those Buffer underruns on Windows machine?

      (say it with me now, kids)

      Auto-RUN

      Almost a nice little rhyme, eh? Autorun equals underrun.

      Back when CDRs cheapest disk was $10, an expensive lesson to learn because of idiotic presets.
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  14. am i the only one... by cosmocain · · Score: 1

    ...getting a little bit sentimental while reading TFA?
    man, was i YOUNG the time i held my first AOL cd in my dead, cold hands.

    err. glad i grew older.

    1. Re:am i the only one... by Creepy · · Score: 1

      the worst day ever was the day AOL switched from Floppy Disks to CDs.

      I used to archive everything on those free floppies. All the CDs were good for was cheap coasters and as "throwing stars" when my college roomies were drunk and crazy (which was FAR too often).

  15. Biased list by StefanJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too much emphasis on software, not enough on hardware, and non-computer items.

    Also too much emphasis on marketing flops.

    I am SO glad that floppy disks are just about finished with. I threw away hundreds and hundreds of them last year (3.5") and two years ago (5.25"). They still pop up now and then. I hope to eliminate all of them except for emergency boot CDs and the like.

    1. Re:Biased list by eln · · Score: 1

      This is not so much a "most annoying of all time" list as a list of "what people liked to bitch about the most on the Internet during the dot-com boom." The oldest product listed is the AOL CD started in 1993. Most of them have dates later than 1997.

    2. Re:Biased list by ex-geek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah. The list isn't well researched. Vista is on the list? I haven't tried it yet, but I doubt that it could top need to shuffle AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS entries on a per application basis. Realplayer is on the list? How could Realplayer possibly compete with Netscape 4.x in terms of annoyance? And what about some of the truly bizzaro UI experiences us Linux users had to endure in the late 90ies? I still get flashbacks from those.

    3. Re:Biased list by rapidweather · · Score: 1
      Throw away your floppies? How are you going to install MS-DOS? (Or Caldera Opendos?)
      I use it all the time for loadlin batch files to boot linux. I have a small drive with MSDOS, to run the selection menu, KDE, IceWM Fluxbox, Various resolutions, such as 800x600 or 1024x768, also MS-DOS edit, to do just that to the batch files. I call edit, then on close of edit, I return to the selection menu. Big hard drive, say 160 GB has the linux OS, and a bunch of partitions for "persistent home", swap, one for the poor man's install /KNOPPIX folder (tohd, fromhd cheatcode), partitions for permanent storage, of song collections, for instance.
      Also, the tomsrtbt linux floppy, useful to partition a new drive, if I cannot get into it with my livecd linux.(See Screenshots, below).
      Another still relevant use for floppies, transfer small files on boxes without USB's.
      I use a 2.4 knoppix kernel, so my live cd linux runs well on older PC's. Yesterday, I started running it on
      a HP Pavilion 8250, with the RAM that comes with it. Paid $20.00 for it, was clean as a whistle, barely used before being stored for years. I got it up and running OK. That PC has USB, but many that I experiment with do not, leaving floppies the only way to get files in there, and set the box up.


      With the PC World List, I am sad that Vista is being picked on, we are going to get some really powerful boxes here to work with when the owners give up on Vista, and toss the machine out. I say let Vista go a little while longer, please, before Microsoft and Vista fall by the wayside. More machines in the marketplace, more in the trash. Terrible thing, really that the stores are full of Vista machines, and it is hard to find anyone who likes it. Seems like Microsoft is wanting us to let go of XP, (won't let Dell preinstall it anymore), and go with Vista on any new store-bought machine we want. Really need to take that Knoppix CD to the store and cause a scene here. I wouldn't want to try that at Office Depot, I might want to come back tomorrow and buy a router.
      Also, I did use the AOL floppy to get Windows 3.1 on the internet, could then download Netscape and give the web a go. I still have one of those early AOL floppies.
      As far as annoying media players go, I have XMMS and AmaroK (neither are annoying) in my livecd linux, and enjoy playing MP3's with them, XMMS I use for internet radio, lots of fun.
      I knew someone who liked Bonzi Buddy, but from what I have read, that needs removing from any PC.
      Thanks for listening...

    4. Re:Biased list by nbehary · · Score: 1

      Would have moderated you insightful, but already posted.....

      So, that said.....wow! That's a blast from the past. I'd blocked that out completely. I remember the old days pre-boot menu (pre-Dos 6? I think) when you actually needed to do that with floppies, or switch the files out manually before rebooting. That was a nightmare. (and there were instances when you still couldn't get around things with the menu and had to resort to floppies.....maybe, it was a long time ago)

    5. Re:Biased list by badc0ffee · · Score: 1
      Not a single Linux annoyance. What about open source applications? There must be some, somewhere.

      I guess installing a new kernel and having to re-boot to finish the install would kind of qualify.

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  16. Backup disks by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before CDs, AOL used to send floppies. I liked that. It was the backup-disk-of-the-month-club for me. I didn't have to remember, I didn't have to buy a floppy; it just arrived every month so I could backup.

    1. Re:Backup disks by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      AOL sends free DVD keepcases these days to hold their free microwaveable coasters, which is a pretty nice thing for them to do.

    2. Re:Backup disks by springbox · · Score: 1

      They didn't seem to care how many you requested to be sent to "friends" even if your friend's address was your address repeated 20 times.

    3. Re:Backup disks by FLEB · · Score: 1

      Compuserve was better-- 6 disks in a MacOS set. I got to the point where they were UPSing me boxes of floppies. I don't think I bought a single disk for a span of 2 or 3 years.

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    4. Re:Backup disks by Woldry · · Score: 1

      Coasters? Gee, I chop them up and make lovely mosaics to line my swimming pool. ... wait, sorry, channeled Martha Stewart there for a second.

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    5. Re:Backup disks by arivanov · · Score: 1

      They used to be a wonderfull bird repellent. You hang 5-6 of them on a string and it works out to be a grand scarecrow. It is a pity they never flooded the EU market as much as the US (so I have to use coasters for this instead).

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  17. Re:seems empty . . . by 0racle · · Score: 1

    Well if they didn't, you couldn't make a pathetic attempt at looking like you care.

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  18. How about.. by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    those 'Read more' links on /. that don't work when you click on them in Firefox? Or better still, the 'automated' phone menu systems that force you to 'press 1' or 'press 2' a squillion times before giving up and hitting a random number to get speaking to some human being somewhere.

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    1. Re:How about.. by jaiyen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd take links that don't work over PDF links anyday. You know, that sinking feeling when you just realised the link you clicked is not to another HTML page but to a 4MB PDF file, which then causes the browser to freeze and choke up trying to open it, and you can lose whatever is was you had in other tabs or windows when it crashes. Adobe Acrobat Reader has surely got to be one of the most annoying tech products for this reason alone - who ever thought making PDFs open in the browser was a good idea anyway??

      Foxit and http://www.pdfdownload.org/ help a lot though.

    2. Re:How about.. by chinton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More annoying are the automated phone systems that make you talk to them.

    3. Re:How about.. by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      Or how about the pop up ad PC World hit me with. Or how about articles stretched over 5 pages? Or how about "More ads than content" web sites?

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    4. Re:How about.. by nra1871 · · Score: 1

      I used to feel that way on Windows with Acrobat 7, but I've been quite pleased with 8. It's a vast improvement in speed. I never have a problem with it in Firefox anymore.

    5. Re:How about.. by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

      Click the print view. Puts it all in one page.

    6. Re:How about.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one that misread "yes" and "no."

      "Did you say 'sales'?"
      "No."
      "Thank you. Now connecting you to the sales department."

    7. Re:How about.. by sulfur · · Score: 1

      Try a very useful Link Alert Firefox extension. It changes the mouse cursor to indicate the target type (such as PDF) of a link.

    8. Re:How about.. by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

      Quit using crappy Firefox browser and you won't have to worry about the browser making you wait every time you click on a download link or try to open a new window to a slow responding server. That's my #1 complain about Firefox is that one busy window freezes all of them. #2 is the random memory and cpu hogging, but that's slowly getting better with each update.

    9. Re:How about.. by AmiAthena · · Score: 1

      Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job! did a skit on that.

    10. Re:How about.. by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Even more annoying still are the automated phone systems that you talk to which cut you off rather than put you through to a person if they don't understand you or (and I swear I'm not making this up) if you swear at them.

  19. Bah... by Mockylock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That list is all Jacked up. Considering the Zune has been out for what, 6 months and it's ranked higher than the Apple Pro Mouse? That thing was beyond annoying. Where are "Jazz" drives on this list? They crashed every month and were garbage. Tape drives aren't on there either! I'm guessing he and his buddies got together and made up the list. I don't argue with most of them, but a product that's been out for 6 months is rated up with Windows ME? I just don't consider some of those "ALL time" annoyances, rather than "recent and minor" annoyances. Just because they're happening now, doesn't mean they're worth being in the all time annoyances.

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    1. Re:Bah... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Jaz Drives?

      I still have mine and at least 6 disks... It used it as a primary disk for a very long time (booted the OS from internal, the Jaz 1GB was for data & apps. My primary disk was 320Meg!). None ever died, they were fast and reliable. Perhaps I was lucky. I've been thinking to start reusing it simply because 1GB is nice enough to try out exotic OSes that aren't too big. (Yes, I have a bootable SCSI host adapter)

      Oh, and tape drives are still considered one of the most reliable backup methods in major datacentres....

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    2. Re:Bah... by Mockylock · · Score: 1

      I used jazz drives back at an old newspaper I worked at. I guess it's because they must have been used very frequently or moved around quite a bit that caused them to go bad so much. I agree that data tapes are reliable, but they're still annoying as hell to work with.

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    3. Re:Bah... by Andy_R · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Apple Pro Mouse was the good one: optical sensing plus a beautiful design. The bad one was the previous Apple 'hockey puck' mouse, it's circular design meant you have to look away from the screen to see which way it was facing, and the mechanical ball rollers were a pain to clean. The majoy *annoyance* was however, not then mouse itself, but PC users crowing on about the 'one button' design, ignoring the fact that Mac Software was (surprisingly enough) designed for 1 button mice, and 103 more buttons were available on a nearby keyboard when required.

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    4. Re:Bah... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      I used my Jaz drives extensively... I even had a carrying case for my Jaz drive & disks. I was a student and took it with me every weekend for four years between University and Home on a 4 hour train trip. Including most of my disks....

      Might not be the usage a newspaper gave it, but I surely gave them some grief. As said, I'd re-use them, but my current laptop doesn't have PCMCIA slots anymore and my PCMCIA SCSI card wont work. My desktop has a Adaptec 29160 and as such the Jaz should still connect and boot, but I haven't taken the time yet.

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    5. Re:Bah... by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      They showed a picture of the Zune, but the item was about DRM which they called "iTunes". Come on, the DRM for iTunes is called "Fair Play" - get it right!

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    6. Re:Bah... by Mockylock · · Score: 1

      MY bad. ;)

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    7. Re:Bah... by MojoStan · · Score: 1

      The bad one was the previous Apple 'hockey puck' mouse, it's circular design meant you have to look away from the screen to see which way it was facing, and the mechanical ball rollers were a pain to clean. Even worse, to me, was the original translucent mini keyboard that usually accompanied that hocky puck mouse. When graphite G4 towers were the newest Powermacs in the Mac lab, I used to request older beige Mac desktops because they had usable keyboards.
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    8. Re:Bah... by YodaYid · · Score: 1

      Most of these lists are crap. "20 Best" this, "15 Worst" that. Who gives a shit? I wish /. would stop posting these things...

    9. Re:Bah... by Tickletaint · · Score: 0

      My God, man, platinum, not beige. Don't let them hear you call it beige.

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    10. Re:Bah... by Misagon · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah.. I remember a third-party accessory for the "puck" mouse: An external plastic shell that you clipped onto the puck mouse to make it oval.

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    11. Re:Bah... by stewbacca · · Score: 1
      Hmmm, jazz drives...this is the third or fourth post I've seen that complains that Brand-X model wasn't on the list. I went through the top 25, and Jazz drives are on there under the Zip drive entry. Maybe this list keeps updating, because I keep seeing things people claim aren't on the list, that are clearly on the list.

      I owned three Zip drives and they all broke. The article refers to the "click-click-click" death rattle that every zip drive I ever was around eventually got.

    12. Re:Bah... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Clearly I suck. I was reading the wrong article. Thanks to the craptacular web site, I couldn't figure out how to continue the story beyond page 1...

    13. Re:Bah... by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

      Try this simple procedure.
      1. See the "20 Best..." or "15 Worst..." headline.
      2. Immediately skip to the next article.
      3. Profit!!

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  20. #6: RealPlayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't get how RealPlayer is annoying. It's the best media player software I've ever seen. And on top of that, I've never seen software that has ... BUFFERING ...

  21. Hmmm.. by GonzoTech · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd have to put PCworld on top of that list. Crap put out to the masses by crap artists that crap lovers love to read, the wipe crap on afterwards.

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  22. Article on one page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  23. what about Bob? by CaptainNerdCave · · Score: 2, Funny

    i couldn't resist the chance at an M$ joke and movie quote all rolled into one!

  24. Very "clever" (annoying) print version by tdelaney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The "print" version puts grey bars at either side of the article to ensure that the contents are wider than your window (I didn't check what mechanism they used).

    You can manually position the page so that all the content is visible, but then the text is hard against the edge of the window.

    Nice trick to annoy people into reading through the ad-filled multipage version.

    1. Re:Very "clever" (annoying) print version by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Quick version:
            1. AOL CDs
            2. Windows Me
            3. Anything With DRM
            4. McAfee Internet Security, Symantec Norton Internet Security
            5. RealPlayer
            6. Bonzi Buddy
            7. MySpace
            8. Windows Update
            9. Windows Vista
          10. Apple QuickTime

      Pretty good list, if you ask me. Fair too-- doesn't seem biased towards anything in particular. All of those things are very annoying.

    2. Re:Very "clever" (annoying) print version by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Nice trick to annoy people into reading through the ad-filled multipage version.

      I don't know about anyone else, but I got a flash-based popup on the second page. I suspect it's to give you an interactive experience, so you too can share in their hatred of "those running, jumping, spinning, swirling, flashing, dancing, popping, peeling, and just generally irritating rich-media Web ads."

      - RG>
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    3. Re:Very "clever" (annoying) print version by snerdy · · Score: 1

      In Firefox try "View->Page Style->No Style."

    4. Re:Very "clever" (annoying) print version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or View - Use Style - None in seamonkey

      btw, check out slashdot sans stylesheets. very different.

  25. Re:seems empty . . . by oni · · Score: 2, Insightful

    really puts things into perspective, doesn't it? We, as geeks, enjoy tech. But there's nothing more important than human life. It does seem odd to be complaining about things that don't really matter, when a lot of people have just been murdered.

    And what will really bake your noodle - this is an everyday experience in the middle east.

  26. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, 30 odd people I don't know were killed in a country over 3000 miles away from me. I should be ashamed of gettig on with my life.

    Yes, it sucks to be the families of those people who were killed today. Are you one of them? No? Then what the hell are you concerned about? It's just yet more media-induced false grief for people you don't know.

  27. The top ten list by MECC · · Score: 3, Informative

    The top ten "short list" can be seen here.

    Less annoying, and you can vote there as well.

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  28. Desktop Cleanup Wizard by shawn443 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could have one icon on the desktop that I click 50 times a day and that so called wizard will still tell me I have unused desktop icons. Even better, when Sally Secretary actually runs this fantastically annoying tool, she calls me ten minutes later to tell me Excel is gone.

    1. Re:Desktop Cleanup Wizard by Unicorn+Giggles · · Score: 1

      Simple solution, right click -> view->show desktop icons + left click.

      Problem solved.

    2. Re:Desktop Cleanup Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Display Properties->Desktop->Customize Desktop

      Uncheck "Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard every 60 days"

      Most people here probably already know this, but this is for those who don't.

    3. Re:Desktop Cleanup Wizard by bughunter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Awesome! Thank you!

      Now if someone can inform me how to permanently kill that accursed "Windows Update Has Installed Updates" "Restart Now?" "Restart Later?" dialog that pops up every 2 minutes until you actually restart. I don't mind restarting for automatic updates, but jeez, just tell me ONCE willya??

      This repetative reminder is highly annoying and infuriatingly distracting when you're in the middle of a 2-hour presentation, or are using the PC to run custom test hardware in the lab and cannot just stop what you're doing and restart.

      The best solution I've found to date is to drag the dialog down so that 90% of it is off the bottom of the screen. And that just sucks.

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    4. Re:Desktop Cleanup Wizard by jimicus · · Score: 1

      A completely OT observation, but anyone who's worked in tech support (probably many here) will empathise with that, yet if you admit to having disabled such a feature company-wide in a thread which discusses running any sort of system across a large organisation, you'll be inundated in people saying "How dare you presume to tell people how they are most productive by setting up their PC for them!" (or words to that effect).

    5. Re:Desktop Cleanup Wizard by Kattspya · · Score: 1

      Install the updates but don't click on the popup. Just drag it down to a corner and it won't nag you. That's what I usually do.

      I've use the "download updates but ask to install" option and that works for me. I'm not sure what happens if you use any of the other options.

  29. auto correction sucks! by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can they possibly cram any more ads and ugly navigation into that abortion of a website.


    i didnt know you could turn the act colloqually slandered as "killing babies" into a website, but i'm sure pc world would find a way to do it!

    maybe your auto correction should be taught the word "aberration".
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    1. Re:auto correction sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      maybe your auto correction should be taught the word "aberration".

      Or, more relevantly, "abomination".

    2. Re:auto correction sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Can they possibly cram any more ads and ugly navigation into that abortion of a website...

      ...maybe your auto correction should be taught the word "aberration".

      ...Or, more relevantly, "abomination".


      Call it an aberrant abomination of an abortion and it wouldn't even phase them. They'd even put it in their press releases:

      "Ranked AAA"

  30. And number 21: by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

    the PC World website

  31. Free Software is always an improved experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Free Software copies the proprietary world sometimes, but it always improves the user experience.
    Take the aol CDs, you now have Ubuntu CDs which always come with an ubuntu user.
    It wasnt bad enough to have all those CDs, you now have to listen for hours how all distros suck and Ubuntu is just ... you know... so good ... so better ... because it's ... you know ... you see ... Ubuntu, dude.

  32. no, its worse than that by wizardforce · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    250,000 people died yesterday and the same will die today from old age, disease, war and famine. the disturbing thing is that it is likely no one here even thought about it. it will get worse too- especially if our consumerist ways continue.

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    1. Re:no, its worse than that by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      What can I do to help stop this menace of "old age" that you speak of?

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    2. Re:no, its worse than that by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      What can I do to help stop this menace of "old age" that you speak of?

      I guess we could all try dying prematurely. I suppose that would address the rampant consumerism at the same time.

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  33. My favorite by DonkeySpew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Require us to retype squiggly letters that are virtually impossible for humans to decipher when signing up for new accounts. (Note to Microsoft: This means you.)

    These stupid things get me every time. It usually takes me at least 3 tries and I think Yahoo's are the worst.

    -Paco

    1. Re:My favorite by mandelbr0t · · Score: 1

      They really aren't that stupid. It's really tough to strike a balance between "human can read it on the first try" and "computer program written by 8-year-old can't read it". I wouldn't open a website up to the public today without a CAPTCHA though.

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    2. Re:My favorite by SpectreHiro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you considered the possibility that you're the type of artificial intelligence the CAPTCHA was designed to foil?

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  34. Im guessing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one of them was developed at Virginia Tech.

  35. What no Clippy? by edwardpickman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I still get the shakes when I see a paper clip. Also for some reason the name "Bob" makes my hair stand up on end.

    1. Re:What no Clippy? by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

      It's on their list of additions added by the editors (as opposed to the top 10 from the public voting), as part of Office 97.

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    2. Re:What no Clippy? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I find that drinking helps with the shakes.

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    3. Re:What no Clippy? by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      >I still get the shakes when I see a paper clip. Also for some reason the name "Bob" makes my hair stand up on end.

      Go sue MS for psychological trauma.

    4. Re:What no Clippy? by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

      Well if that "Bob" is this "Bob" then it's probably a feature !

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    5. Re:What no Clippy? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but I find that sodding light bulb in OpenOffice just as annoying.

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  36. Re:seems empty . . . by pembo13 · · Score: 1, Informative

    A lot of people have been murdered every day. You do realize that, right?

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  37. A 7 page article full of adds and clutter? by kuwan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That'd be my number one annoyance these days. The actual content of the article only takes up about one-third of the page and then they break it into 7 pages so you are bombarded with annoying adds and clutter. The other two-thirds of each page is full of adds and cluttered up links to other parts of their site. Their site is just as annoying as any of the 20 products they profile.

    How about a nice clean layout that lets you actually read the article and not be distracted?

    1. Re:A 7 page article full of adds and clutter? by fermion · · Score: 1

      The irony continues because the one of the also rans was for Flash. All the ads I saw were in flash. I don't have flash enabled, therefore the web server got all the extra hits, but never loaded an ad. Obviously the magazine cannot take it's own advice. One wonders why one would trust a magazine that recommends one thing and then does the exact opposite. It is like the stock tips mags. If you stock tips are so good, why don't you make your money by investing rather than selling a magazine. It would seem if your core competency was in fact investing, that is what you would do.

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    2. Re:A 7 page article full of adds and clutter? by massysett · · Score: 1

      Sure, when you pay for it...seriously though. Pay-for-view sites, like the Wall Street Journal, Consumer Reports, and Cook's Illustrated, don't have annoying ads. The whole articles are on single pages.

      Free sites...well, you get what you pay for. Vote with your mouse though. I know that when I visit a site that goes to the trouble to evade my popup blocker, I never, ever visit it again.

    3. Re:A 7 page article full of adds and clutter? by sodas · · Score: 1

      Combine that with smallish articles divided into even smaller pieces that just barely fills the narrow strip of screen, which makes you click next, next, next, next, just so they can squeeze in more ads. Aaaaaaargh!! ADBLOCKED!

    4. Re:A 7 page article full of adds and clutter? by rts008 · · Score: 1

      I agree.
      Anytime I hit a page like that, I look for the "printer friendly" version.

      No printer friendly version....I move on somewhere else.

      I suppose I could also try the 'repagination' extension for Firefox, but I never find myself that interested- easier most times to just search Google for a different source of the same info- if not, move one.

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  38. In the other extreme by arcite · · Score: 1
    You have sites that make the print window annoyingly small...such as reuters.com

    I suppose the most sneaky pop the print window open to try to tick you into printing the page without being able to read at all.

  39. Re:seems empty . . . by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But there's nothing more important than human life.

    If you're talking about "human life" in general -- get a grip, the species isn't going extinct just yet.

    If you're talking about a (or even several) human lifes -- get a grip, there are plenty of things more important (to some people) than individual human lives, sometimes including their own; if not, nobody would risk their own life for anything.

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  40. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no such thing as a Mac Geek. Mac users are grandmas and people who don't have any interest in computers.

  41. They forgot one huge enormous product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This site called PC world that gets people to read stupid articles while showing advertisements and interrupting our viewing of porn.

  42. touchpad touch-clicking by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i vote for the "feature" of touch pads that emulates a click with every inadvertent touch.
    -
    oops (f*ck), my cusor moved to some random place mid-sentence,
    oops i selected and deleted a section of text.
    oops, i clicked on something.

    addesso touchpad-keyboards suck because you cant turn this shit off.

    let's just say that doing taxes online with an adessa touchpad-keyboard is a bad idea.

    1. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      What kind of computer do you have where you can't turn this off?? Seriously that sucks. I only use the Mac and you have been able to turn that off on the Mac since tap clicking became a feature.

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    2. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the parent isn't actually a slashdot user. I've used laptops for many years, and I'm also annoyed by this feature. Yet on every laptop (with all possible OS combinations) I've owned, you can turn it off.

    3. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 1

      > What kind of computer do you have where you can't turn this off??

      the devices in question are the adesso USB keyboards with builtin touchpads

      "slimtouch" and similar models.

      its a USB keyboard in a "notebook" form factor. good idea, but adesso sucks and apparently no one else makes them.

      you cannot turn off tap clicking, as it is done in hardware (worse, it emulates a ps2 relative mouse), and the adesso hardware provided no interface to turn it off.

      nothing to do with window vs apple vs linux.

      apparently, from everyones response, the best feature of tap-clicking is the ability to turn it off.

      is anyone going to argue that tap-clicking is a useful feature?

    4. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by Darundal · · Score: 1

      I just vote for touchpads themselves. Grr, pains in the arses, they are. I'll take a nice trackstick over a touchpad any day.

    5. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      It's good when implemented properly.

      When I used the "Synaptic Touchpad Device" driver from Dell, I don't get the random clicks, and if i rest my finger too close to it, it just shuts off the pad.

      The Linux and default MS Windows drivers suck, though, and register a hover.

    6. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by debest · · Score: 1

      Exactly why I can't stand using any laptop other than IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads. The TrackPoint "clitty stick" does take some getting used to, but the pleasure and efficiency of using it goes way beyond that of the touchpad. The new ones have both: I disabled the touchpad immediately.

      I also use an IBM mouse with the trackpoint on it.

      I saw a "Model M"-style (collapsing spring) keyboard that also had a trackpoint on it while browsing eBay one time. Guy was asking too much, but now I wish I had it for my docking station.

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    7. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1

      I saw a "Model M"-style (collapsing spring) keyboard that also had a trackpoint on it while browsing eBay one time. Guy was asking too much, but now I wish I had it for my docking station.
      You can get a new one here for $100 US.
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    8. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a Mac. I've been using an iBook extensively on a day-to-day for almost two years, and with the click feature enabled, and I've *never* false-clicked.

    9. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      is anyone going to argue that tap-clicking is a useful feature?
      I will argue for it. I love it (Mac OS) and I rarely misclick. My wife hates it and turns it off because she constantly misclicks. It can be a problem for those who don't like it or aren't used to it. For example, when we bought our current iMac online, my wife accidently bought the 24" model instead of the 20" model, because of the click pad.

      I think it has to do with the dexterity of the operator, as it does require a bit more skill than normal. It is kind of like when computer mice started becoming ubiquitous. At times, it was painful watching so many "noobs" trying to operate a mouse.

      As far as turning it off, at least in OS X it is OFF by default, for exactly the same reasons people complain about it in this thread. Whoever said it can't be turned off because it is a hardware function is speaking specifically for one PC brand, I suppose?

      I personally couldn't live without the functionality of the track pad in OS X. Right-clicking with a second finger and the two finger scroll features are killer. I'm not a fan of the one and a half click and drag thing, but at least it is available for those who like it.

    10. Re:touchpad touch-clicking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      getting a mac does not help if the keyboard+touchpad is an external usb device. unless you have specific experiance about this.

  43. Any old-time Mac users... by Lockejaw · · Score: 1

    Any one else remember the guys in Harry the Handsome Executive who just sat there frisbee-tossing AOL free trial disks?

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  44. Caps lock key by contrapunctus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the caps lock key is one.
    It takes valuable space on the keyboard and rarely gets used.
    I like the old control key there instead.

    1. Re:Caps lock key by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1
      iF YOU GO AND GET RID OF MY CAPS LOCK KEY, i CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE!

      dammit, i also get the lameness filter . . . why doesn't it stop people when they post in all lower case????

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    2. Re:Caps lock key by Vurlix · · Score: 1
      Solution: change the capslock key into something useful. Like a second backspace button. You can do this on windows with a simple registry modification:

      REGEDIT4

      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentCont rolSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
      "Scancode Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,0e,00 ,3a,00,00,00,00,00

      [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Keyboard Layout]
      "Scancode Map"=-
    3. Re:Caps lock key by contrapunctus · · Score: 1

      Thanks,

      I don't use Windows though. I know about workarounds and I know about the "happy hacking" keyboard that comes with the control button in the right spot, I use that keyboard for the Linux box. And I got used the command button on the MacBook.

      It's still an annoyance. Grrr!

    4. Re:Caps lock key by baeksu · · Score: 1

      If you think that's bad, I'm using a keyboard at work that has the 'insert' key between the backspace and delete keys. Oh the countless times I've pressed it on by mistake and writing over existing text, what good times they have been.

      Is there any reason this key should be toggleable?

      For humanity's sake, I recommend everyone using Windows gets CapsUnlock: http://www.brainsystems.com/capsunlock/

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    5. Re:Caps lock key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've clearly never met an accountant. They *ALL* use the caps lock as if it were the button that would power up the keyboard.

    6. Re:Caps lock key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

      (yes, I know I'm using so many caps. It has a purpose)

    7. Re:Caps lock key by emlyncorrin · · Score: 1

      But you didn't use caps lock...You used shift! Just more proof that it is useless! Actually he did use caps lock - and inverted the case when he also used shift for the first character and the I.
      Not that that makes the caps lock key any use.
    8. Re:Caps lock key by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

      I think the caps lock key is one.


      WHICH ONE IS THE CAPS LOCK KEY?

      It takes valuable space on the keyboard and rarely gets used.


      SO YOU SAY, BUT I STILL CAN'T FIND IT. DOES THIS MEAN I SHOULD REINSTALL AOL?

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  45. Re:seems empty . . . by trewornan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah it's particularly worrying news considering the current world shortage of American college students.

  46. No F/OSS represented?! by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This is an outrage!

    My university made me use Pine to read email for fuck sakes!

    vi and emacs deserve honorable mention, what's more annoying than two dillholes scratching their neckbeards, straining to find that ultimate zinger that will crown their favorite text editor as the victor in the FAGGIEST FLAME WAR EVER WAGED.

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    1. Re:No F/OSS represented?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      holy shit that's funny.

      i had to use pine too.

    2. Re:No F/OSS represented?! by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      I don't get mod points anymore, so here's my +1, Insightful in reply form.

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    3. Re:No F/OSS represented?! by peterpi · · Score: 1

      You're right. Emacs really is for losers!

  47. Re:seems empty . . . by LainTouko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every day over 100 people (I think) die in the US alone in road traffic accidents. About 30,000 children die in the world every day due to poverty. This incident is pretty insignificant, really. It just gets noticed because it's an unusual sort of death.

  48. my very favorite part . . . by rev_sanchez · · Score: 3, Funny

    So if you buy a WMA file from a service that uses Microsoft's PlaysForSure DRM (most notably Napster), it won't work with the Zune (which uses Microsoft's Zune DRM).
    A thing called PlaysForSure which will not play on something produced by the company that produces both things sounds like what Douglas Adams would write about DRM if he were still around.
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    1. Re:my very favorite part . . . by markbt73 · · Score: 1

      That does sound like another fine product of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, doesn't it?

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    2. Re:my very favorite part . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're no longer exclusive with that.

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/15/191424 8

      KInda like "Vista Compatible" stuck to a box that has hardware that lacks Vista Compatible drivers.

    3. Re:my very favorite part . . . by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      I think my elevators at work also are made by Microsoft, as they usually spend most of their time in the basement sulking. I saw a recent article in the Wall Street Journal about a "Merger of Equals" between Microsoft (MSFT, chart, qoute) and Sirius Cybernetics Corporation (SCCX, chart, quote). According to the article, each company intends to leverage each others strengths, combining Microsofts "It Just Works (TM)" with Sirius Cybernetics Corporation's "Genuine People Personalities (TM)". According the the article, the combined technologies will be called "Windows Genuine Advantage".

      Douglas Adams was a prophet.

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  49. iTunes? WTF? by 14erCleaner · · Score: 0
    Any list that groups iTunes with Media Player and Zune into one "things with DRM" category is defective. iTunes is one of the least annoying programs available for Windows, and it's free to boot.

    If you're going to include ringtones and portable music players, why don't we include car alarms? Now THAT's an annoying tech product.

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  50. Nintendo games by Awksjaw · · Score: 1

    I remember having to blow into every single one of the 8-bit old school Nintendo games that I put in. That was pretty annoying and made me lightheaded, but it worked!!!

  51. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grouphug?

  52. Re:seems empty . . . by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    tech is what allowed one person to kill many in a matter of minutes today at two locations. the middle east has alot more of killing now that we're there with our tech too.

  53. Re:seems empty . . . by BSAtHome · · Score: 1

    Ok, 6,000,000,000 people, 60 years average lifespan gives 6,000,000,000/60/365 death per day to keep the population at current level if we see approx. same number of births. That means ~274,000 people die every day of various reasons. And this is probably conservative as the population is slightly bigger and the average lifespan probably lower, considering the poor conditions in "non-western" countries.

  54. MS Office by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although the article cited Office 97 as an "also ran" annoyance, I'd have to cite the entire suite in all its incarnations as one of the worst annoyances in my daily life. I have so many reasons for my conclusion, that I'm sure I could exceed the character limit of a /. post. But the top reasons for giving Office a Supreme Annoyance Lifetime Achievement Award include:

    1. UI inconsistencies across the suite and even within products.
    2. Bugs that have survived at least 7 years and 3 upgrades (upgrade = another chance to extract more money from the customer).
    3. The fact that "Autosave" is a known cause of corrupted documents and crashes.
    4. Automagical formatting and replacement wizards that you can't turn-off.
    5. Word's horrible horrible outliner that singlehandedly killed off actually useable outliners.
    6. The fact that O'Reilly was able to create an entire series of "Annoyance" books just from Office.

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    1. Re:MS Office by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      And I'd like to nominate Office 97 as one of the best Office suites ever.... Once you turned off Clippy of course ;-) People critisize OpenOffice to be like Office 97, but I think that's a good thing. :-)

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    2. Re:MS Office by nuzak · · Score: 1

      > The fact that "Autosave" is a known cause of corrupted documents and crashes.

      Autosave is not. Quick save is. Quicksave happens for both autosaves AND manual saves. For the love of god, don't turn off autosaves.

      The automagical stuff can be turned off with a couple of checkboxes in the (craptastic) options interface (why can't they do like eclipse does and have a single tree and a search box for the preferences UI?). And let's not give special pleasing to openoffice -- its autocorrect features are even worse.

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    3. Re:MS Office by N3Roaster · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be quite so harsh on Office. Word 5.1 on the Mac was actually pretty good (were they selling a bundle called Office back then? I can't remember).

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    4. Re:MS Office by owlstead · · Score: 1

      I had the displeasure of using Office 97 Word to get security certification on an application of mine. Once I was bored (not difficult to get bored if you are rewriting documents you created one year ago) so I started to write down the most *obvious* annoyances.

      After 4 pages of the most obvious annoyances I gave up, because my blood pressure was getting way to high. Of course, it doesn't help if the guys on the other side use a different language version, as does your collegue. Maybe users in the VS don't know, but *all* styles will be present; in 3 different languages. And each style will also be listed *again* if you happen to use a slightly bigger font, bold, italics, *the works*.

      Word 2003 did nothing to the format, but at least the sidebar - if you manage to get that thing on your screen - helps you with removing all the styles you don't want. Until it is send to the other side, and all starts over again. This - and other annoyances like crashes etc - easily cost me about a month additional work.

    5. Re:MS Office by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      5. Word's horrible horrible outliner that singlehandedly killed off actually useable outliners.
      Not to mention the same outliner that is nowhere near acceptable for any academic pursuit, and the lack of APA style tools. As if Microsoft wants to reinvent all scholastic standards that have been in place since the time Bill Gates was in diapers?
    6. Re:MS Office by jimicus · · Score: 1


      1. UI inconsistencies across the suite and even within products.


      Oh sweet jesus yes.

      And particularly in Office 2007. I've installed that myself and this "new UI" stuff is a bit disingenous. There are quite a few bits (particularly in Outlook; haven't looked elsewhere in any detail yet) which haven't been updated with the new look & feel and you have no idea when you'll hit one. You're just getting th hang of the way everything's done slightly differently (but by and large most things are a lot fewer clicks and fewer badly-designed Wizzards getting in the way) when suddenly you click on what you want to do and you're dropped into a wizard which has existed since Office '97 and wasn't terribly good back then.

  55. Most Annoying Tech Product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cellular Telephones

  56. Irony is... by macphile84 · · Score: 0

    They forgot to mention the sliding ads prevalent on their site in their list.
    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=462047358& size=m

  57. Warranties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The word you were looking for is warranties. When pluralising a word that ends with a y, replace the y with ies. The apostrophe has two purposes in written English, pluralisation is neither of them. This was not meant as a personal attack, more as a 'PSA' since I see incorrect use of the apostrophe so often now.

    1. Re:Warranties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The apostrophe has two purposes in written English, pluralisation is neither of them.

      Which are:

      1. Alerting the reader that, "Here comes an S!"
      2. When removing a letter to form a contraction like ain't, would'a, and it's.


      Also a PSA since the OAC left you hanging ;-)

  58. PS3 annoyances by spagiola · · Score: 1

    [after listing various supposed annoying properties] The most annoying thing about the PS3? Its $599 list price.

    That's just like the classic joke: The food here is terrible! And the portions are so small!

  59. As an owner of an original Bondi iMac by arcite · · Score: 2, Funny

    I look on my now crippled mouse hand with pride, all those fond memories will be with me forever. Of course, my baseball career is over, ditto with curling, pool, in fact I usually just cover the mangled stump with a black glove.

  60. Re:seems empty . . . by pclminion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But there's nothing more important than human life.

    What a silly statement. Imagine a population of 1000 slaves. Suppose that by the death of one, the remaining 999 will be released to live free lives. You're saying that the life of that one person is more valuable than the freedom of the other 999?

  61. Blasphemy! by 7Prime · · Score: 1

    What, no Virtual Boy???

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  62. Where's PHP & ASP & Javascript & cooki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about you, but those products have been giving me a living hell, and who likes to download ad-ridden 150KiB files just to read a few sentences?

  63. Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button. by Draconix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The 1-button mouse was to keep developers from relying on extra buttons, thus adding to the probable confusion of the end-user. Unfortunately, a vast number of ports never bothered adjusting for that, so eventually Apple caved in and started bundling multi-button mice (and probably because of Boot Camp as well) which are wonderful in theory, and freaking annoying in practice. My Mac Pro came with a Mighty Mouse. The scroll ball is really neat, but the fact that if you hold your mouse like an artist tends to (only using your fingers instead of laying your entire hand on it) it tends to interpret left-clicks as right-clicks.

    As for the puck mouse the original one sucked, but the one that came with the G4 was awesome. If someone made a multi-button version of it with a scroll wheel, it would be my favorite mouse. I had no trouble at all using it back in the day, as it had the dimple on the button so you could actually tell which end was the front, and it was a lot easier for me to work with due to its small size and light weight. I seem to be the exception to the rule, though; I also prefer modern Apple keyboards to the IBM Model M.

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  64. # = Anchor in URL by antdude · · Score: 1

    You didn't need the # for anchor. :) Yeah, I am picky but what did you expect from a stubborn nerd/geek? :D

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    1. Re:# = Anchor in URL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't need the # anchor just like he didn't need your response.

    2. Re:# = Anchor in URL by antdude · · Score: 1

      And I don't need your response like you said. :P

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  65. What about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pop ups, pop unders, Flash ads that float, Flash ads period?

    Guess they didn't include those on the list since their site uses these techniques.

  66. iTunes by Y-Crate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bemoaning the fact iTunes requires Quicktime to be installed ignores the fact iTunes is nothing but an XML front-end for Quicktime. It's a database and shopping app that offloads all of its media handling to the existing suite of software designed to handle such things.

    If they had created another software package to replicate the services provided by Quicktime just for iTunes people would be lining up to say how it exemplified a lack of faith in the established suite.

    1. Re:iTunes by tcc3 · · Score: 1

      It doesnt really matter. No matter how you shake it itunes is a terrible video player. I dont like Quicktime either, but it worked better than the iTunes front end.

      I was forced to use iTunes for a video podcast recenty. It was a PITA to setup full screen without missing the 1st 30 seconds of the show.

      Apple typically gets a lot of points for usability but parts of iTunes are a mess.

  67. Honestly by brkello · · Score: 1

    PC worlds should list themselves for all the ads they shove on every page on top of the (actually, behind the) pop up ads they force you to close to read the stupid article.

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  68. Dude why ?!?!? by Brigadier · · Score: 1



    back in those days I worked for a graphics design shop and everything we did revolveld around those damn drives. this was before CD's but I recall constantly fighting with either zip drives or SyQuest drives. Reading reviews now they seemed great but I remember it being a crap shoot as you would spend hours copying the file the have to re-read it to make sure it worked. it took all damn day just to copy a file and check it.

  69. Amen by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1
    They can't ever understand me anyway.

    "Please spell you street name"

    "C-L-E-A-V-E-R"

    "You said B-L-C-A-T-E-R. Is that correct?"

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  70. Biased list: Windows Centric. by Erris · · Score: 1

    and there's a good reason for that.

    This has got to be the first Windows centric article I've enjoyed. That is said as someone who remembers the transition of Byte from a computer magazine to a Windoze product review. In other words, Windows centric articles have bothered me from the very beginning.

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  71. alternately, they could learn some hotkeys by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1
    Ctl+A, Ctl+C, Ctl+Space for quicksilver, Tex, ctl+V

    Naturally the quicksilver bit could be some other OS's launcher for notepad/textpad/vi/whatever. (but not emacs because that would be inefficient)

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  72. Re:seems empty . . . by petehead · · Score: 1

    Every day over 100 people (I think) die in the US alone in road traffic accidents. About 30,000 children die in the world every day due to poverty. This incident is pretty insignificant, really. It just gets noticed because it's an unusual sort of death.

    Who modded this up? It gets noticed because a whole bunch of people were killed by one person, intentionally. They were not vitims of policy, unfortunate circumstance, living in a war torn area, etc., they were victims of one dude with a gun in an unexpected situation. That is why it gets noticed. And, while it may not be insignificant in the overall scheme of things, incidents like this do have strong repercussions for better or worse (think gun control, emergency response, movies like bowling for columbine, etc.)

  73. Flash? by doom · · Score: 1

    10. Apple QuickTime

    And what about Flash?

    1. Re:Flash? by doom · · Score: 1

      And what about Flash?

      Ah, I see, it was merely an also ran.

      But they praise it for doing so much to "enliven" our PCs...

      Yes, inane videocy was just what the web needed. Good going Macromedia.

      We can only hope Adobe is about to run it into the ground with insane adware and DRM schemes.

    2. Re:Flash? by nuzak · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Yes, inane videocy was just what the web needed. Good going Macromedia.

      I just finished playing 5 Minutes to Kill Yourself, and I can tell you, inane videocy is just what I needed. Thank god for flash.

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  74. To quote Bill Cosby... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Man invents. God creates.
    Man invented the AUTOMOBILE. Called it AMAZING!
    God made a tree said it was good.
    Man invented the REFRIGERATOR. Called it INCREDIBLE.
    God made a rabbit and called it good.

    The wheels fell off the car. The refrigerator lost its cool. Tree's still up and rabbit's still runnin'.

    1. Re:To quote Bill Cosby... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My rabbit isn't running. In fact it is sittin next to the fridge in the front yard next to the tree that fell over.

  75. Vista? by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

    "Installing Vista onto an older system? There's a good chance that your graphics card, sound card, and some of your older software won't work properly."

    Really? If you try to install Windows 98 on an old enough machine it might not work! That's what happens. Technology marches on. The old must be left behind eventually or the new will get too bogged down to move forward.

    Why Outlook 2003? I have it and I have no problems with it. It always loads quickly and is always responsive. Perhaps the only annoying thing about it is the balloon that says,"Outlook is not responding." Yes it is! Have more than a 1/4s of patience.

    1. Re:Vista? by Viceroy+Potatohead · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really? If you try to install Windows 98 on an old enough machine it might not work! That's what happens. Technology marches on. The old must be left behind eventually or the new will get too bogged down to move forward.

      Sleeps-With-DRM: I'm sorry, but old Runs-On-DOS will have to be left behind.
      Plays-With-Kernel: But chief, I love Runs-On-DOS!
      Sleeps-With-DRM: It's for the good of the tribe, she can't chew the instruction set anymore. It is our way.

    2. Re:Vista? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking exactly the same thing, I've never had a hitch with Outlook 2003. But then I am slightly biased as I am forced to use Lotus Notes at work, after that, even something like CCmail is feature rich and forward looking (and I'm talking about the DOS version here).

      Mind you I've never had a problem with M$ Messenger either (apart from the fact it keeps renaming itself MSN Messenger one day Messenger Live the next??) but then I've always set it to not add ayone to my contact list without permission. If only I could do the same with my landline phone number.

      And as for vista, I wouldn't touch that with yours!!!

  76. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by Tacvek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My Mac Pro came with a Mighty Mouse. The scroll ball is really neat, but the fact that if you hold your mouse like an artist tends to (only using your fingers instead of laying your entire hand on it) it tends to interpret left-clicks as right-clicks.
    Actually, that is the reverse of the problem most people have. if you keep your hand on the mouse all the time, and try to right-click it interprets it as a left click. You must raise your index finger to right click. That is for backwards compatability of "click the whole mouse at once = left click" that was the only option on the older Mac mice.
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  77. How about the fucking pop up AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's annoying the fuck out of people reading the annoying tired article?

    Fuck print general interest PC mags, they're for Grandmas and Managers.

  78. Macromedia Ads by ohsmeguk · · Score: 1

    They whinge about them in the worst 20, but the first thing they did was shove one in my face when I got there! ARRRGHH!!!

  79. Mobile Telephone... by morari · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'nuff said.

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  80. Re:seems empty . . . by ampathee · · Score: 1

    It gets noticed because a whole bunch of people were killed by one person, intentionally. They were not vitims of policy, unfortunate circumstance, living in a war torn area, etc., they were victims of one dude with a gun in an unexpected situation. That is why it gets noticed.

    So, what you're saying is..

    It just gets noticed because it's an unusual sort of death.

    Lol @ unintentionally agreeing with the person you're disagreeing with.
  81. Inexcusable by despik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the fanless 8-inch Cube was anything but cool in a literal sense. Put a pile of papers down on its top external vents, and the Cube would overheat and shut down.

    That's simply inexcusable. Those defective vents also didn't allow you to brew your coffee inside!

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  82. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was shot and killed today, you insensitive clod!

  83. Re:seems empty . . . by petehead · · Score: 1

    He said that it was an unusual sort of death. People get shot all the time; I'm saying that it is everything else that is unusual. Maybe he meant that too, I don't know.

  84. Not gonna make any popular lists but... by hurfy · · Score: 1

    One of my favorites was our previous accounting system.

    After selecting to do End-Of-Month it would first give a pop-up:
    Allocations not selected, do you wish to select allocations? Y/N
    No ends program
    Yes gives another pop-up:

    Selecting allocations Continue? Y/N
    again, No pretty much ends it all
    Yes gives another charming pop-up:

    No allocations to select, do you wish to continue? Y/N

    argh....Got old every month for years.... and i think i missed pop-up in there :(

    Another nice feature was selecting a module would prompt you for the date defaulted to today and Y/N buttons. YES would set the date to today and enter that module, while NO would set the date to today and enter that module....... funny for a few times. not so much after a thousand times. Took them years to add a default to assume it is today!
    (the default was to not give a date box and assume last date entered, so you have to manually select to change date each day for each module, two more steps than the useless pop-ups and not useable in real-life)

    Our current program is too annoying to even mention. Perhaps remembering what check number i am on is somehow hard on the computer. Maybe we could have the ablilty to scroll a list backwards like i have been doing even in DOS for 20 years or so :/

  85. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And because it is in the U.S. - if the same incident happened in Iraq, it would be forgotten by people in the U.S. within 24 hours.

  86. Re:seems empty . . . by lakeland · · Score: 1

    Actually, so are the road victims.

    Other countries have policies to reduce road death that work significantly better than the policies in the US. Some parts of the US live in unfortunate circumstances and have many more road deaths.

    The US chooses to have as many road deaths as it does, because it is unwilling to face the consequences of addressing them. The US has fewer deaths due to rampages than other countries (Israel for example). That's because it is willing to face the consequences of addressing them.

    It all comes down to priorities. At some point you have to choose to let people die because because saving them costs too much (freedom, money, intelligence in the gene pool, whatever).

  87. Windows Server by fabu10u$ · · Score: 1

    Duh... especially if you come from a Unix background.

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  88. My vote goes to... by mvdw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Annoying pop-over ads. Like in the article. Irony, anyone?

  89. "also annoyed by this feature" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the point (and the point of the article) is that it is an annoying,useless, and harmful feature. which you agree with ?

    yes you can disable it on most laptops. because they use synaptics chip or similar which has an interface to disable it,

    and no, you cannot disable it on new adesso usb touchpad keyboards.

    the default for this touch-click feature/bug should be off,

  90. Russian propaganda tapes by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On a similar note I used to do unimportant volunteer stuff at a public radio station. Radio stations used to do a lot with reels of tape (probably still do) and any current affairs shows or other pre-recorded stuff would be dub edited from various sources to the final tape. Every month Radio Moscow would send out a nice big reel with the last months worth of english language stuff - the station loved it - it went straight to the bulk tape eraser and then into the newsroom where they could never get enough blank tape.

  91. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by chebucto · · Score: 1

    I'm with you on the hockey puck mouse. I liked the fact that you could move the mouse around in a limited range without moving your whole hand, just by moving your fingers left/right or up/down. I was also a fan of the much-derided early imac keyboard. I am not a fan of the current Apple keyboard, both because of its flat base (which wobbles on my slightly arched desk) and its lack of space in-between groups of F keys (unlike most keyboards, which group F keys in sets of four).

    But my ultimate nostalgia/complaint about mac input devices is the lack of a keyboard power button. That button was perfect - there was no risk of accidentally powering computers off and it saved time spent either mousing to the apple menu or reaching around to the computer itself.

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  92. Re:seems empty . . . by McFadden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Going from 31 dead people in a senseless mass killing to yet another top 20 list from a worthless site.

    I couldn't agree more. Speaks volumes for the morality and compassion of the editors here.

    A couple of days ago, 62 people were killed in Iraq in a single day's "senseless mass killing".

    I doubt either of you even noticed.
  93. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by T-Ranger · · Score: 1

    People who can figure out using two buttons shouldn't be allowed to breath on their own, let alone use a computer. There is getting confused, and then there is just not trying.

  94. Re:iTunes? WTF? by rossz · · Score: 1

    The exhaust system on my Harley causes overly sensitive car alarms to go off - usually BMWs. Yes, I do enjoy cruising the supermarket parking lot.

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  95. ok it's not a poll, but "missing option" by v1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    pop-up ads. Heck include pop-under ads too please. Why didn't they consider this? Given consideration, I bet it would beat out AOL hands-down. If you really want to go that route including things like antivirus software, why not just include a Viruses and a Spyware category? Maybe viruses wouldn't get a ton of votes but spyware? rock the charts.

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  96. #21 by wbren · · Score: 3, Funny

    #21: Those annoying PC World ads that pop up whenever you visit their articles.

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    1. Re:#21 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only things more annoying than the Windows OS' are the Mac users.

      -Real quotes:
      "I like Linux, but OSX gives me a more introspective experience".
      "You don't need Linux on your Mac to run Limewire. Limewire will run on Mac but please note that most users of Limewire use it for illegal downloads."
      "Got computer questions? Make an appointment with a genius at the genius bar."
      "Hackers can't make viruses for Mac because its too secure for them"
      "OSX is the best OS" Really? why? "....uh hello! have you seen it!? All the artists use Mac."

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  97. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes.

  98. Spam by Coolhand2120 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh, hello? Spam? Anyone, Bueller? Spam is by far the most f*#cking annoying and should be high atop the list.

  99. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by kakofb · · Score: 1

    Obviously you didnt look at the pictures.

  100. Re: Zune by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1


    Did anyone else notice that "Zune" is like a cartoon character like the Ren or the Taco Bell Dog saying when it would work? "ZUUUUNE!"

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  101. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever read "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" (http://www.amazon.com/Ones-Who-Walk-Away-Omelas/d p/0886825016) by Ursula Le Guin? If I was one of those slaves and offered that chance to freedom, I probably wouldn't take it. Probably. I don't know.

  102. 2 down...18 to go! by dohcrx · · Score: 1

    klm codec eliminates two of the offenders... real player, and quicktime for windows

  103. Others by gerrysteele · · Score: 1

    They forgot Twitter. Thats annoying and totally useless. They forgot all Apple products. The products are good, it is just sad they unleashed the hidden well of irritating morons. They forgot digg.com, where all the appletinnis hang out.

    1. Re:Others by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I saw two Apple products on there (Pippin, Mac Portable). And they took a dig at the general lameness of Apple products during the mid-90s. Care to elaborate on which other Apple products belong on there? There were some bad designs, like the Cube, but that doesn't particularly qualify as "annoying". Orange and blue clamshells, on the other hand, do.

    2. Re:Others by gerrysteele · · Score: 1

      Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear... I like a lot of Apple products... it's just a lot of people have clamped onto them as a fashion symbol and have become insufferable in the process.

    3. Re:Others by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Actually, I was mistaken. It was unclear how to coninue the story beyond the first page and I inadvertantly was reading the "Worst" products of all time, and not the "Most Annoying". So therefore, I would like to add their web page to the list.

  104. Outlook 2003 by CelticPirate · · Score: 0

    Ok, I like Thunderbird more than Outlook. But in fairness when I took on IT at the firm I used to work for one of the first things I did was ditch Outlook and IE for Thunderbird and Firebird. It did not take long before it's massive one file store of all email and attachments got corrupted and killed my users applications. The advice everybody gave "Email apps are not supposed to be used as data archival apps" That might sound good and elitist and all but when you are dealing with hundreds of emails with clients and vendors etc. you need your "paper" trail.

  105. Mac users do it with *both* hands by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    The majoy *annoyance* was however, not then mouse itself, but PC users crowing on about the 'one button' design, ignoring the fact that Mac Software was (surprisingly enough) designed for 1 button mice, and 103 more buttons were available on a nearby keyboard when required. (emphasis mine).

    Yeah, Mac users having to use two hands to perform operations that PC users do with just one... thats such clearly superior UI design from Apple.

    NOT.

    My un-favorite is in OSX Preview app where in order to drag the view port around you have to hold the space bar PLUS the left mouse button. Brilliant design.

    Apple: both retarded and inspired at the same time.

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    1. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by stewbacca · · Score: 1
      Brilliant design, or ignorant user? Seems like the little ball in the middle of my mouse moves the preview around just fine. Unless of course you mean something else by the "view port"?

      And for the last time people, Mac OS has had right mouse click functionality for at least the past 10 years, so get over it.

    2. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      no, hang on: 1st off, the above post told me something I didn't know and is really useful. 2nd, left click plus mouse move should move the view port, as with other apps.
      My most irritating bits about OS X are:
      1) Can't reliably choose between "Save/Don't Save/Cancel" dialogue boxes with the keyboard. Why can't I tab between them or use left/right cursor?
      2) When I've a file selected in finder, pressing enter doesn't open it. I need COMMAND-O. Why? Why can't this be changed at all using keyboard preferences?

    3. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Informative
      First of all, I recall my "ignorant" comment. It just irks me when people take baseless potshots against any product, as evident by his last few lines. I should be bigger than that, but man, it gets old.

      To your post: 1) You can navigate dialogue boxes with the keyboard. You have to turn it on in system prefs though. 2) Pressing Enter is a Windows method. The Mac way isn't right or wrong, just different. As with most Mac keyboard commands, they usually require a modifier key so you don't inadvertantly cause the machine to do something you didn't want it to. A perfect example is deleting a file. With Windows, the delete key moves a file to the recycle bin. If you aren't paying attention, you can lose a file. Perhaps you have a sentence highlighted in Word and you hit the delete key to erase it, but you didn't realize the focus was actually on a file on the desktop...your sentence remains and your file goes in the bin. With OS X, you have to hold down the command key + Del key to move a file to the trash. This way it is impossible to inadvertantly delete a file because the computer requires a deliberate action to make it happen.

    4. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      I don't mean to be picky, and I honestly would like a solution for this, but my understanding was that some apps allowed keyboard navigation of save/don't save/cancel dialogues, and others didn't. How can I turn it on globally? Is this via "full keyboard access" in System Preferences->Keyboard & Mouse->Keyboard Shortcuts? It doesn't seem to work for all applications...? Thanks...

    5. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is where you turn on full keyboard access. Alternately, you can press control + f1 to toggle it on and off. I'm not sure what you mean by it not working in all applications, as all the programs I use use the built in developer dialogue boxes. Perhaps there are still a few weird apps out there that decide to just bypass all the built in standard development features, but I don't use any.

    6. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Seems like the little ball in the middle of my mouse moves the preview around just fine

      I don't much like the clitoris mouse; when I try to use the clit as a scroll wheel to scroll up and down a web page it inevitably detects some sideways movement and takes me back or forward in history.

      However I took your point and tried it out with the mouse I do use which is a microsoft mouse with side-tilt. Amazingly enough it works for panning the viewport in preview. I'll never say that MS never got anything right ever again...

      And sure Apple have some right-click functionality but its not used consistently.

      I am just getting used to the mac at the moment and its better than Windows in some ways and just plain retarded in others. Like I said, both inspired and retarded simultaneously.

      It could do with better ability to customise and tune, but the preferences on most apps and in the system preferences control panel gadgets are just condescendingly simple and unhelpful.

      And anyway, I still maintain that the philosophy that one mouse button plus keyboard buttons in various combinations is not good ergonomics; its best to give the user the choice in as many ways as possible.

      Thus, when your hands are both on the keyboard you should not have to reach for the mouse to perform basic operations such as moving focus from one dialog button to the next. And when your hand is on the mouse and the keyboard is out of reach, you should not have to reach for the keyboard for little things like eg the one mouse button plus control key to bring up a menu combination.

      I'm giving the Mac a chance I only wish that it were more configurable. Or at least more obviously configurable. I've been trying to find a resource to help me get under the hood. I got 'the missing manual' but its as condescending as the preferences in the Apple iLife applications... Pointers would be appreciated.

      *Under* the *hood* please.

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    7. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I took you "inspired and retarded" comment as sarcasm. Since you are new to the Mac, you'll soon realize that the "retarded" portions are mostly because you are used to the moreso retarded Windows way. It all starts to make sense after awhile. It is one of the reasons you rarely hear anyone "switching back" to Windows. Good luck to you.

    8. Re:Mac users do it with *both* hands by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I took you "inspired and retarded" comment as sarcasm

      Its an expression I've heard from other people some of whom are longer-term Mac users than myself...

      Don't get me wrong, I think OSX is pretty good most of the time but sometimes the UI decisions seem really strange, like the keyboard shortcuts. Eg When editing a document the 'home' and 'end' keys take the viewport to the top or bottom of the document but leave the cursor where it was so that when you use the arrow keys you zoom back to where you were before. It took me ages to figure out that theres a splat-up-arrow and splat-down-arrow key combo.

      I fail to see the value in shifting viewpoint in an editor but not shifting the cursor with it. Um... is there value in this that I'm just not seeing?

      And up till now my preferred desktop has been KDE under Linux... not so much the Windows :)

      OSX is a far better *NIX workstation than Linux of *any* flavor. And I've been a Linux user since 1992. Yes, that long. Which is why I'm used to being able to customise things :)

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  106. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, at least we won't see anymore posts from that Anonymous Coward guy. He has to be the most annoying person on slashdot.

  107. how about the popup ad on page 2 by acvh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i thought that was pretty funny...

  108. WinFax by Qwavel · · Score: 1

    The pain it caused me in the 90's.

  109. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by Philotic · · Score: 1

    I thought I was the only one who prefered using my fingers instead of my entire hand/arm to manipulate mice. Are there any particular mice, other than the Apple puck mouse, that are designed for this style of usage?

  110. blah blah by ukemike · · Score: 1

    The same old slashdot jokes/complaints/discussion that crop up every time no matter what the discussion.

    Damn! what happened to my karma?

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  111. Re:seems empty . . . by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    It gets noticed because a whole bunch of people were killed by one person, intentionally.

    An event like what happened today at Virginia Tech would be big news anywhere in the world. 32 students murdered is horrible no matter where it occurs.

  112. List of crappiest tech magazines by aztektum · · Score: 1

    Go... 1. PC World

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  113. Re:seems empty . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're saying that the life of that one person is more valuable than the freedom of the other 999? For that one person, yes.
  114. Honestly?... spam by ukemike · · Score: 1

    10) people who talk about this really cool thing they did in World of Warcraft.
    9) TV commercials (until you've banished the tube from your house for a year you have no idea how awful these things are)
    8) Most cellphone interfaces (it often requires more keystrokes to pick a # from my list than to dial it from scratch)
    7) People talking on cellphones while tailgating me.
    6) People talking on cellphones with the earbuds in public (what? huh? you talking to me? oh.)
    5) Microsoft operating systems in general (except XP which is often annoying but doesn't rate top 10)
    4) MS Genuine Advantage (as bad as any other malware and my firewall doesn't block it)
    3) Popups (thanks Firefox for mostly fixing this annoyance)
    2) Browser Hijacks (you only have to have one once for you to be forever scarred)

    and the number one annoying tech related thingy is...

    1) SPAM (in all of it's myriad forms)

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  115. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by _merlin · · Score: 1

    I loved the keyboard/mouse that came with my G4 Sawtooth and dislike the new Apple keyboard/mouse, too. Smaller hand motions are usually better, and I liked being able to move just my fingers and not my whole wrist. But I've found that a Wacom tablet with the pen is easier on my hand than any mouse, and more accurate and faster to boot. You can hit anywhere on the screen instantly. Oh, and I have a Sanwa IceKey keyboard (the MacAlly IceKey is a rebadged, Americanised version of this).

  116. Finally! 1 on top! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm so happy to see a top list which starts with the most relevant entry, the winning one.

    I'm so annoyed with all of those lists that counts down to 1. Seriously, don't you all always read the list from 1 to whatever uninteresting product they put at the end of the list? The only reason they usually do it in reverse is that they want you to read more of their ads.

  117. But that's a slippery slope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What if it took 5 lives, or 10 lives, or 100 lives? At what point would the cost outweigh the benefit? Why would that number be ok but one more be too much? It's easy to say it's worth it if you're one of the 999, but if you're that 1 then you might have second thoughts.

  118. How about Fedora Core 6 ? by cwsulliv · · Score: 1

    From my experience thusfar with Fedora Core 6, it ought to be on the list.

  119. Useful AND Annoying: Cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because a tech product is useful doesn't mean that it can't also be annoying. Cell phones in movie theaters, cell phones at a restaurant, cell phones distracting drivers...yep, pretty annoying.

  120. Re:Lotus Notes? by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lotus notes has got nothing on the toy car my two year old son has. It plays Wiggles songs when he pushes it around. It's almost as bad as the little iron that makes stupid sound effects when he pushes it around or the doll that plays twinkle twinkle little star when he sqeezes it's belly. He has a toy aeroplane that sings a song so annoying that even he couldn't stand it and asked me in whimpery toddler speak to remove the batteries.

    Whenever I see these stupid lists on /. and then read all the "Tech product X is way worse" comments, it just re-enforces in my mind the stereotype that slashdotters don't have kids. I agree that AOL, Lotus Notes, Norton Anti Virus and anything by Microsoft are pretty bad, but if you want a real list of annoying tech products, take the inventory of a toy shop and cross out anything without batteries. Seriously.

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  121. What they missed by sheepweevil · · Score: 1

    vi *ducks

  122. Re:seems empty . . . by dr_d_19 · · Score: 1

    That's just plain utilitarism and not everyone will agree with you. It's "common sense" as long as you are not the one slave :)

  123. I vote for car alarms by gronofer · · Score: 1

    Car alarms beat all the rest put together. With most of the so-called annoying products listed in the article, if you are not fool enough to use them the annoyance is minimal or non-existent. However I don't even own a car and I still find car alarms annoying.

  124. article summary by bahbar · · Score: 1
    Gah, my eyes are bleeding from the pain to go through the article...
    1. free AOL discs
    2. Windows Me
    3. incompatible digital rights management (DRM) schemes
    4. Norton and McAfee are constantly prompting us to check our security settings, update our subscriptions, and/or buy more products
    5. RealPlayer, pushiness
    6. Bonzi Buddy
    7. MySpace
    8. Microsoft Windows Vista overzealous "Cancel or Continue?" confirmation windows
    9. Microsoft Windows Update (wrt WGA deployment)
    10. Apple QuickTime for Windows invasiveness
    Also ran
    • Microsoft Office 97 (1997) non-backwards compat
    • flash running, jumping, spinning, swirling, flashing, dancing, popping, peeling, and just generally irritating rich-media Web ads
    • AOL Instant Messenger, Microsoft Windows Messenger, Yahoo Messenger
    • ps3
    • ebay random approach to policy enforcement
    • Apple Pro Mouse
    • plaxo automatic spamming
    • Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
    • Apple Power Mac G4 Cube
    • Harmonium (polyphonic ringtones.)
    • Intuit Quicken 2005 -- take features away if they don't upgrade
    • Logitech Harmony 550
    Ah, and at the end, a list of anoying things not to do
    1. Force us to reboot our systems any time we install or uninstall your product.
    2. Automatically install into the Windows system tray and launch at startup.
    3. Force us to read the manual just to figure out how to turn on the damned thing.
    4. Pop up little reminders for things we don't want to do.
    5. Make tech-support contact information nearly impossible to find--or, better yet, don't include any.
    6. Install a bunch of extra software nobody asked for or wants.
    7. Automatically sign us up for e-mail newsletters and other announcements.
    8. Charge us $35 per call to speak to "Bob" in Bangalore when we have problems.
    9. Force us to upgrade products to get the same functionality we already had in the old version.
    10. Make us enter the same information (like e-mail addresses) multiple times.
    11. Require us to retype squiggly letters that are virtually impossible for humans to decipher when signing up for new accounts. (Note to Microsoft: This means you.)
    12. Force us to register products and/or nag us until we capitulate.
    13. Promise to remember our log-ins and password, yet still make us enter them every time.
    14. Insist on updating the product when all we want to do is quit it and go home.
  125. Re:iTunes? WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah. this brings back fond memories of an air show where a flight of MIG-27s passed overhead and every car alarm in the entire car parking area went off...

  126. Re:seems empty . . . by Spacezilla · · Score: 1

    Who cares? It's not like those people were American, right?

    I'm not American myself, I'm Danish, but it annoys me each time they report on a plane crash: "210 people were killed in the crash. No Danes were on board." and I just feel like: "Gee, well, that's good, I guess. As long as no Danes were killed, who cares about all those other people?"

    Now, they say they do it because most people watching are Danish and have Danish friends and relatives, so they don't have to worry about whether they're OK, if they know no Danes were on that plane, but that's just not how it comes out: "210 people were killed. Luckily, none of them were Danish."

  127. Re:seems empty . . . by Chrisje · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I couldn't agree more.

    Funny, if 20.000 people drown in floods in Bangladesh, two liberals somewhere issue a two-line statement that "we maybe ought to help those folks a bit". If, on the other hand, some dipshit walks into a school in the Western world and shoots 31 people, I guess I'll be watching that and the discussions surrounding it for weeks on any news outlet I happen to stumble upon.

    Way I see it, the 31 of this morning are just a natural part of the 12.000+ people that die due to fire-arm related violence in the US annually. Then again, it's not the guns that kill the people, er?

    Frankly, I spent more time reading the useless article on annoying tech than reading about some school in Wichita that got another loony-attack. Because the latter I've heard so many times before, and the first is at least mildly amusing.

  128. Number one annoying tech product: bad web pages. by Bramantip · · Score: 1

    Another list for Annoying Technology:

    1/ in-line advertisements
    2/ multi-page articles
    3/ 256kb for one page

    I can remember when 256kb was an enormous amount of memory for a computer. And yet one could surf the BBS's and actually READ the information without needing more than a 300 baud modem - this is now impossible. Even on high-speed internet connection I have to wait for the javascript to load all these banner ads, click through to another 256k download for another paragraph of text.

    And the articles seemed so much more interesting in those days. There were very few trolls, no adverts, no pop-ups, just information that you needed.

    There seems to be an inverse proportion to the available means of communication and the actual value of what is communicated. Sometimes I just really hate technology....

  129. Re:seems empty . . . by VShael · · Score: 1

    Look at how the entire US of A will react to the murder of these 30+ people, and then compare with the Iraqi's reaction to seeing dozens of their people killed *every* day.

    And apparently we're supposed to be concerned that the so-called liberal media is not bringing the GOOD news from Iraq?

  130. Bogus List - What about Auto Dialers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a BS list. The AOL CDs don't "bother" me. I just trash them.
    Now Auto Dialers... That has to be the MOST annoying tech invention of all time.

    I used to work for a dialer company and every time I told someone what I did, I got glares and groans.

  131. Uh, Where is the cell phone?? by moeinvt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How can a list of "most annoying tech products" NOT INCLUDE THE CELL PHONE? #1 by far!!!

    With the exception of the AOL CD, how many people have ever been "annoyed" by one of the products on this list? It can't possibly compare to the number of people who have been annoyed by a F#*&^%$ cell phone going off in the middle of a class, meeting, or performance event. Not to mention the annoyance of having to listen to 1/2 of an angry or animated conversation. At least the AOL CDs made good coasters, or could be tossed in seconds.

    If the "boom box" counts as a tech product, that has to be a "top ten" as well.

  132. Windows XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about you guys, but I cannot stand any of the defaults on Windows XP. With all the registry tweaks I need to perform to turn off all that eye-candy crap, perhaps I should consider writing one big registry hack.

    Either that, or I'll just continue using NT 4.0 as I have been for over a decade.

  133. Hire me! by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Why do they pay people to come up with top 10 lists?

    Why does Slashdot link to them?

    I don't know, but I don't think I'd be as annoyed by them if I could get a cut. C'mon, people! I can write top 10 lists in my sleep! Hire me to do nothing all day... please?

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  134. Re:seems empty . . . by Abel29A · · Score: 1

    Monkeysphere link needed methinks... http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/monkeysphere.h tml/

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  135. Are you sure you want to exit this program ? by TractorBarry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Slightly off topic as it's not confined to a single product but....

    My absolute pet hate are the utter fools that produce code where you close their app and it pops up a dialogue that asks "Are you sure you want to exit ?". Durghhh...

    There is absolutely no excuse for this brain dead crap. Of course I'm bloody well sure I want to close your app that's why I clicked thhe close button/the Exit menu item/closed the window etc. etc.

    The only reason an app should confirm closure is when there is unsaved data that the user might like to save. There is no other reason to prompt me. I've just effing done something to dismiss your app now be a good coder and tidy up and exit.

    Thankfully you do see a lot less of this these days but it's still being used. e.g. I installed Ubuntu Fesity this week, ran Automatix, closed the program and here it comes again. Shame really as Automatix is otherwise top notch (as is Feisty) !

    Ho hum... different decade, samme crappy coding.

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  136. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    Exactly! Coming from a Windows/Linux background I used to use a Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse before replacing it with the Mighty Mouse, which hase a lower profile and thus is more comfortable to use.
    Regarding what the sibling said about Wacom tablets: The idea is good, however all Wacoms for less than ~150 bucks are not supported well on newer Macs.

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  137. Yes, it can cause siezures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try this one:

    You use Lotus Notes every day. You don't send 'emails' you send 'memos'.
    You know that the quick-send key combination is: ALT-1 - SEND
    UNLESS, oh unless, you have SAVED the 'memo'. In this circumstances ALT-1 will FORWARD the 'memo'.

    Can you believe how much unsend mail you get in your SAVED box due to this piece of genius?

    Exactly at which point in the Lotus Notes UI design did they say 'ALT-1 will always SEND unless the user has SAVED'. This, amongst other things, can really make you pound the desk in frustration. Daily.

  138. Re:seems empty . . . by The+Slashdot+Guy · · Score: 1

    I like danish.

  139. Abortion was intended, see dictionary: by FatSean · · Score: 1

    courtesy of Dictionary.com -

    6. any malformed or monstrous person, thing, etc.

    or

    9. Informal.
    a. shambles; mess.
    b. anything that fails to develop, progress, or mature, as a design or project.

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  140. Re:Lotus Notes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You bought your son a toy iron and a doll that plays twinkle twinkle little star? What's next, a Mac? If he's going to have a boyfriend down the road, there's nothing wrong with that. But, could you at least try to send him down the right path?

  141. Re:Lotus Notes? by Zenaku · · Score: 1

    To be fair, none of the things you've described are really "tech products." They are kids toys. Sure, they use technology, but what doesn't? I wouldn't describe my car, my toaster, or my alarm clock as tech products, even though that last one is pretty annoying.

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  142. Re:Lotus Notes? by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

    This got modded insightful?

    Here's some insight for you: if the sound-generating toys annoy you so much, don't buy them. I doubt your two year old is buying his own toys. Get him some good old wood blocks or giant-sized legos. Not only will you get some quiet, it'll help him develop imagination instead of attention deficit disorder.

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  143. Re:Lotus Notes? by der_joachim · · Score: 1

    What makes you think that GP bought the annoying toys himself? And I used to be able to make a lot of sound with my giant-sized legos when I was that old. :-)

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  144. Lights on consumer electronics. by mightybaldking · · Score: 1

    When I turn off the stereo, I want it to go OFF. I don't want a little red light to appear to tell me it's off. Now, replace that little red light with a 1000000 candle power white LED. That way, my neighbours across the street can tell that I've turned the stereo off by that eerie glow in my living room.

    1. Re:Lights on consumer electronics. by FenrirWolf · · Score: 1

      Holy god, yes.

      At night, my living room looks like it harbors a bunch of green/blue/red one-eyed monsters.

      Why the light? Are people so stupid they can't remember that a plugged in electrical appliance which instant-ons at a remote's beckoning still has active power?

      Worse are the devices which only show a power light when they are off. (And they cleverly label it the "standby" light.)

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  145. Amen to that by FoamingToad · · Score: 1

    For work, I'm having to configure a build machine to replace three life-expired P3 boxen. It's a Dell Opti 260.

    It's configured as a triple boot.

    Windows 2000 - Fine.
    Windows 98SE - Patchy, but shouldn't be a problem.

    And given the clients we support, I'm also having to install Windows 95.

    I am in utter driver hell here. Intel 845G/GL graphics set? I don't think Intel even started to do graphics chips until about '97 - at any rate there's nothing listed in the vanilla drivers. I'm going to try and fudge the '98 driver.

    Chipset? Don't make me laugh!

    Oh yeah - how are you going to transfer 6meg of graphics driver? USB? Hahahaha! [Before anyone suggests, I'm waiting until 2k is on then I'll use my USB laptop hard-disc].

    At any rate, hardware and software are products of their time. When you mismatch them by more than about five years, you're going to have problems. That's life.

    F_T

  146. Re:seems empty . . . by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 1

    What I usually see on the news in Canada is the anchors adding an addendum when Canadians are killed in a plane crash/accident/whatever and not adding one when they are not. The same with local news outlets when local people are killed abroad (most commonly when Canadian soldiers are killed in Afganistan). It's: "Six soldiers were killed today, two of them from (insert local city/town)." not "Six soldiers were killed today but none from our (insert local city/town)."

    I suppose there's not a whole lot of difference but it sounds a bit more tactful.

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  147. #21 by cmorgan47 · · Score: 1

    the advent of site requiring you to click through several pages to see 20 things
    printer friendly

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  148. Re:To stop the Restart Now/Later nag message.. by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Go to Start->Run, type "services.msc", and then stop the "Automatic Updates" service.

  149. Re:To stop the Restart Now/Later nag message.. by bughunter · · Score: 1
    Hm. Thanks, I guess.

    What if I wanted to keep automatic updates and just eliminate the nag part?

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  150. Re:Yeah. There's a reason Apple mice were 1-button by Draconix · · Score: 1

    Well, I have a Logitech MX 310, and it works fine for me. It's big, but the buttons come far enough back that I can use it with my fingers without trouble.

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  151. Re:To stop the Restart Now/Later nag message.. by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Just reboot later and it will be back to normal, or you could restart the service.

  152. Is that so strange? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By letting the public know no Danes were on board, other Danes who have relatives/friends/etc travelling in the area can rest assured their loved ones are ok.

    In turn, this lets the airline, police and others not be overwhelmed by phone calls.

    Lots of worries avoided by stating a simple fact.

  153. Re:To stop the Restart Now/Later nag message.. by bughunter · · Score: 1
    Aha - then thanks indeed.

    I was not aware that the service would restart at reboot.

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  154. Yes, iTunes sucks by Hyperhaplo · · Score: 1

    Any list that groups iTunes with Media Player and Zune into one "things with DRM" category is defective. iTunes is one of the most annoying programs available for Windows, and it's free to boot.

    Absolutely! I agree! iTunes is quite defective for several reasons.

    There. Fixed that for you.

    Before we begin, I'd like to say that iTunes isn't so bad.. overall. However, there are some things that make you want to pull your hair out. If you have hair.

    Here's a list, since you asked:

    iTunes Bitching

    B: Why isn't there a 'staging area' where you can add songs and do things to them before iTunes does what it does? (resolves names, artist, type etc).
    Why: So many times I have dragged whole folders into the 'Music' folder - only to 'lose' some! Now I can't find them easily.. and not even search can help me :(

    B: Can there be an option to keep the original name, or revert to previous information? Can this be held inside iTunes so reversion is possible?
    Why: The 'offical' name/information may not be what I would like it to be

    B: Why isn't there a 'broken' grouping in the Library - to list music that cannot be played/used on an iPod?
    Why: An error message is displayed - after which you go hunting for music that is 'broken' for one reason or another.
    While we are here: Yes, the 'convert to MP3' option is nice, but where is the 'Convert to MP3 and remove the original song and don't ever bug me about it again' option?
    Continuing on, where, oh bloody where, is the 'convert this video to MP4' option?

    B: Why isn't there an option to 'always convert to MP3' for .wmv songs?
    Why: This functionality would be nice to have.

    B: Why is everything labelled as 'Music' or 'Movies'. I do have TV shows! I don't want my 'audio books' to be playing when I 'play all'.
    Why: Having chapter 8 of Goblet of Fire play in the middle of music is disturbing.

    B: Can we PLEASE, OF FOR THE LOVE OF THE DEITY OF YOUR CHOICE PLEASE, have an option to disable the 'double-click plays the song' functionality.
    Why: I've lost track of how many times I have been modifying field values for songs and it has started playing the song. Not good.
    Why: I have been building playlists and instead of dragging a song to a playlist it has interruppted the current song and started a new one instead of adding it to the playlist. Arggg!!!!!
    This is enough to drive you insane after a couple of times.

    B: Provide more information about what the options in Edit > Preferences actually do.
    Why: Does the option 'shuffle songs' shuffle all songs? What are 'groupings'? What is the difference between the three? Why are these radio buttons instead of check boxes?

    B: If a song has been converted to MP3 and added - then don't report that syncing it is 'a problem'.
    Why: It has already been added - as an MP3!

    B: If something cannot be played on the iPod then give me the options to do something about it! At the very least a 'remove this from the 'Music' folder or 'tag these items as faulty and don't report them again'
    Why: It is very nice to get the error message, BUT I CANNOT FIND THAT SONG IN THE ITUNES PROGRAM ANYWHERE!?!
    Misc: Yes, there is a column on the left hand side to indicate these problems. No, you can't sort on it. No, you can't filter on it - you need to manually scroll through the whole lot to find them.

    B: I've found a song in my playlist that I don't want in iTunes at all - Why can't I delete it from iTunes from the playlist?
    Why: Because sometimes you are playing through a playlist and would like to remove the song completely. Going through the main MUSIC folder for every single bloody song to remove is a pain.

    B: Why can't my TV Shows go into 'TV Shows'.
    Why: No. Don't answer. I know. Because they are 'movies' and I should create a movie playlist called 'TV Shows' to hold them.

    B: Can't add I add my podcasts I have downloaded as MP3 files

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