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Compound From Olive-Pomace Oil Inhibits HIV Spread
Researchers in Madrid are claiming that they have discovered that a type of wax found in olive skin can help to slow the spread of HIV. "Their work shows that maslinic acid - a natural product extracted from dry olive-pomace oil in oil mills - inhibits serin-protease, an enzyme used by HIV to release itself from the infected cell into the extracellular environment and, consequently, to spread the infection into the whole body. These scientists from Granada determined that the use of olive-pomace oil can produce an 80% slowing down in AIDS spreading in the body."
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Compound From Olive-Pomace Oil Inhibits HIV Spread
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Why does AIDS get such a huge amount of funding? Other diseases kill far more people every year and most of them aren't caught by immoral behavior.
The pastor at my church says it's the gays promoting their choices as normal behind all this. Two Sundays ago he said (and I quote as I remember it well) "The homosexuals are indoctrinating your children and making them choose their lifestyle. They can't reproduce so they have no choice BUT to recruit. They are forcing the government to back their behavior with laws... Laws against God and Jesus."
Pretty good logic.
..and works as a lubricant too? :-)
my, thats handy.
I went to Spain once. Hooked up with a Spanish hooker. BAMN! AIDS!
And Popeye thought that his strength always came from spinach. No wonder Bluto was always kidnapping her.
I'm skeptical. The source article, by stating "these scientists from Granada determined that the use of olive-pomace oil can produce an 80% slowing down in AIDS spreading in the body," conflates HIV with AIDs. You can slow down the spread a virus, such as the human immunodeficiency virus, in the body. You cannot slow down the spread of a syndrome, theorized not as caused directly by HIV, but by opportunistic infections as a result of HIV infection, in the body; only said opportunistic infections.
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Is the substance taken orally or applied topically?
Birth is the leading cause of death.
Enhances the taste of bread. mmm
I suspect it's more likely that individuals with a slower-than-typical HIV growth after infection from the virus are the same individuals that really, really like olive-pomace oil.
Occams razor and all that.
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Ah, misleading headlines! This one makes it sound less like a clinical study and more like one of those "miracle cure" articles you see in tabloids, promoting some ordinary food like garlic or olive oil as anything from a diet aid (lose weight eating nothing but garlic!) to a cure for cancer.
I (obviously) have no use for this.
I'm always skeptical of these third world countries scientific claims of some miracle cure usinging some natrual substance. i recently went to a seminar given by a recruiter for one of the larger universities in the Caribbean. I was flabergasted to hear them making claims of there findings as far as avocado curing aids and other such BS. The fact is though ambitious i'm sure they lack the level of technical abilities and testing proceedure to make a truly scientific claim. Flame me if you want but this is something that I see happen over and over again. In my eyes this is no different than than me testing HIV cultures in show polish containers using coconut oil in unsanitary surroundings.
Olive pomace is the left-over skins and fruit pulp for the first pressings of the olives. Secondary treatment of the pomace with steam and solvents extracts the residual oil and also extracts this seemingly beneficial oil/wax.
Ironically, the cheaper grades of olive oil probably have more of this oil.
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Please, let's not feed the trolls. I don't believe that OP is truly serious. I think he's trying to start a flame war.
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The HIV virus is a very interesting virus. Of all the common viruses, it is one of most deadly and the hardest to cure. It kills millions of people every year. Which other virus is doing that? Please tell me. This is why it is interesting for study. Most of other infectious diseases people are dying of can be cured with antibiotics, but people never get them.
.. you should know that curing AIDS will save many heterosexual and monogamous women's lives in Africa (you and your preacher should be interested in that right?). These are innocent women who's husbands cheated on them with prostitutes. Also importantly, treating AIDS will enable children in Africa to grow up with mothers and/or fathers.
When the next viral pandemic hits, we want to make sure we know all about how to quickly and effectively deal with it.
Cancer and heart disease do get more funding than AIDS (as they should). Although it's pretty sad that I have to mention this
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I have been HIV positive for 3 years, although I don't have full-blown AIDS yet. Many mazing developments and new treatments have been found in the past few years, and I have faith that some day, we will be able to find a cure. But for now, there is a much more effective method for preventing HIV infection. You can nearly eliminate the risk by abstaining from sex outside of a trusting marriage between two people who have practiced celibacy. If that's not an option for you, at least avoid high-risk sex and make use of STD testing (keep in mind that someone may be HIV+ for several months before tests start showing it.) Avoiding intravenous drug use and low-quality tattoo or piercing parlors can further reduce the chances of catching this horrid disease.
I noticed that eastern Mediterranean countries that produce a lot of olives have a lower incidence of adult HIV. Not to imply that there is causation, and I know that other factors are at work, but I still found it interesting.
The best cure for aids is Cyanide. Even stops the complaining from the person who has it!
She uses it to fry things, which is a big "WTF?" if you know anything about olive oil. The whole point of extra virgin olive oil is that it's a lighter more flavorful oil, and it's usually substantially more expensive. Use it in a salad dressing or as a condiment, drink it straight out of the bottle like the Greeks do, but don't fry in it, jesus! It doesn't even have a very high smoke point, compared to refined olive oil.
It's like frying something in sesame oil, or flaxseed oil, or any other oil that you can think of that is used primarily for how it tastes, rather than as an efficient conductor of heat.
Of course, in the U.S., EVOO is defined by acidity, so you're not buying real EVOO at the stores, just regular refined oil with a low acid level.
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So how come the home of Olive oil, Italy, has one of the highest infection rates in Europe? http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/hiv-aids/hiv-aid s-infection-rate-by-country-europe-and-the-new-ind ependent-states/
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You're correct. But I think the parent was referring to the truckers in Africa who solicit whores on their trips. Unfortunately, there is still sooo much misinformation on AIDS that quite a few folks have some misguided opinions about it. And to be honest, with all of the FUD out there, I'm not so sure I know anything more then the parent. SO, mod me down to as an ignoramus. And then again, it's un-PC to criticize Africans and their culture. I'll leave that to you to research and for me to take the karma hit - I'd much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much rather take a karma kit than have us Westerners live in ignorance - myself included!
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But it probably causes cancer.
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It's because we like immoral behavior; if it only affected religious zealots, we'd add it to the water supply.
I just love how so many so-called Christians can be so happy to watch other people die. Whole buncha stone throwing fake christians in the world today.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate all religious people. Just the holier-than-thou hypocrites who talk about god while imposing their narrow-minded world view on everyone else.
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Saying "HIV virus" is like saying "ATM machine". :D
Huh? I (stir) fry with sesame seed oil all the time - BECAUSE of the taste.
Olive oil's low smoke point could be dangerous when frying. I know a guy who cleaned a cast iron pan with olive oil and then heated it to about 500 fahrenheit. Luckily he didn't burn down his kitchen, but he's still cleaning the smoke marks off the wall.
I'm curious. What is your definition of extra virgin olive oil?
Sesame oil at least has a high smoke point. Does Rachel actually fry stuff in extra virgin olive oil? That's just plain stupid. The high heat of frying ruins the taste and creates nasty, harmful compounds. I mean, regular olive oil is a bad choice for frying, let alone EVOO.
And in case anyone doesn't know, EVOO traditionally means the first oil to run off from the first pressing. Virgin olive oil is the rest of the first pressing, and other olive oils come from the second and subsequent pressings. EVOO has a better taste, but only raw. If you want to fry, the best oil is peanut oil.
Okay, I just read her wiki page. Anthony Bourdain called her a bobblehead. That's all I need to know.
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Not just his, but outside the US, everyone's: the first run off from the first pressing of a batch of olives. It contains the purest oil and the least amount of olive solids. The olive solids create acidity, but that is by no means the proper measure of virgin or extra virgin status.
What did you think it meant?
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What's an extra virgin? the /. regulars should know, right? hey-o!
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As mentioned in a subsequent reply, Extra Virgin Olive Oil refers to the very first Oil taken from the first pressing of olives, and traditionally has nothing to do with the oil's acidity.
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In the states (and I presume canada) oils go through processing to remove impurities, kill bacteria, etc... and so whats labelled on a store shelf as extra virgin olive oil, really isn't, in the traditional sense. This is also why most north american olive oils are shipped in clear plastic containers, instead of opaque glass bottles. Traditional EVOO is light sensitive, and should be stored in opaque glass or metal cans to preserve the best flavour.
But yes, frying in EVOO is ridiculous. I use Peanut oil to fry in, and to season my Cast Iron pans (the best non-stick pan you'll ever know).
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Scandinavia has the lowest rate in the world, Iceland beating everyone save North Dakota, which is populated nearly exclusively by Viking stock. Across Europe, there is a very strong correlation between latitude and HIV infection rates that roughly follows the increasing tendency toward pickling of both sustenance and self.
If anything, it ain't the oil, it's the vinegar.
"If I eat olive oil, I won't get AIDS."
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I, for one, welcome our olive-skinned, AIDS-free, hottie overlords!!!
I've got to hand it to Slashdot. The "tagging beta" seems to be getting more and more "beta" all the time.
Yep, everyone before me is right. The only thing I want to add is that there is actually a group that decides what oil actually fits in what categories: the International Olive Oil Council. All IOOC member nations (the US isn't one) have to abide by their standards in labeling olive oils. By their standards, there can be no refined oil in either EVOO or just plain VOO.
Just one more example of the FDA's obsession with pasteurization and processing. What a country...Can't get unpasteurized cheese because it might hurt you, but they don't have to label GM foods or hormone pumped cow products.
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Well, if you eat olive oil instead of having sex or using somebody else's needles, yes, there's a pretty high chance you won't...
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There were lots of promising anti-HIV and anti-virals that were promising in the petri dish, but failed in clinical application. Hope this one is a clinical success.
500 degrees seems awfully high for many oils.
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Olive oil can be perfectly safe for frying:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Ma
Pomace oil, particularly, is commonly used for frying in parts of the world.
By definition by Italian Legal Standards:
Olive Oil = Mixture of refined oils including olive oil - Treatment might include decolouring - deodoring - precipitating acids - adding colours
Extra Virgin Olive Oil = 100% olive oil whith only partial treatment - Infact only filtering is allowed
But I like more greek standars by which every olive oil is "extra virgin" like the italian PLUS they have to state the acidity on the bottle.
You might wonder why acidity is important. Here is a brief explaination: When a mature olive falls it starts decomposing. In the process the fats become acid. Thus olives with a low acidity are those well preserved and processed just at the right time. Oils with hight acidity are usually made from poor grade olives fallen on the ground and then collected with nets or veils to save on manpower.
That's all
Of course, in the U.S., EVOO is defined by acidity, so you're not buying real EVOO at the stores, just regular refined oil with a low acid level.
If someone in the U.S. is buying Hi-Vee brand olive oil, they deserve what they get.
There are plenty of stores that sell European olive oil in the U.S., where the label not only says "Extra-virgin" but also says "from the finest first-press olives only" or somesuch.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
I have a friend who works in the olive oil industry in Turkey. His definition of "extra virgin" was "low in acidity". Although his description of EVOO production is the same as yours (the first batch of oil extracted).
Lots of people get sick or die from food poisoning. Nobody to my knowledge has died from GM foods, irradiated foods, or growth hormone. There are no scientific studies that show negative effects from the first two.
I find the occasionally excessive enthusiasm for pasteurization annoying, but it isn't like there is no reason for it.
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Does this mean the AIDS Cocktail will now come with an olive in it?
Shaken, not stirred?
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Sesame oil is actually even worse for deep frying than olive oil.
I think you must be thinking of peanut oil.
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Reading the wiki page, low acidity is a criteria. First pressing is also, but the one we both missed is: no chemical treatment or refinement of the oil.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
A jar of gypsy tears will always protect you from AIDS.
When AIDS was first "discovered" (actually, when it came to the notice of the public), it was seen as something that happened to two groups: Gays and Haitians. Since this was the early 80's, being gay was not considered acceptable, so the joke went something like this:
Q: "What's the worst part of getting AIDS?"
A: "Convincing your parents that you're Haitian"
Well, it seemed funny at the time, anyway.
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Oh. Yeah, sure, saute in olive oil. For those who are unsure of the difference, sauteing happens at a slightly lower temperature than deep frying, and the foods are only half covered by the oil. It is also important in sauteing that the food is not crowded in the pan, sauter means 'to jump' in French, and the food should have room to jump about in the pan. If it is too tightly packed, you are in effect simmering or steaming instead.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
but you certainly can buy real EVOO at the stores. There is plenty of excellent EVOO available in the states.
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Try grapeseed oil - can get it at your local asian market, has a very high smoke point, it's quite healthy, and imparts very little flavor - but just enough to taste in something very mild like tofu - and it tastes good!
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How the hell are we supposed to run a decent site when stories get tags such as the ones for this story? Slashdot becomes digg more and more each day with this childish nonsense.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I lost all control and started to whip the defenceless little child with my cane and, for five minutes, I relentlessly thrashed Elodie's little cunt, raining down wickedly hard strokes until the soft flesh was turning deep crimson. She was screaming so much, I was afraid she could be heard out in the street. Rolling up her little knickers, I stuffed them into her mouth and tied them in place with a length of string around her head. Gagged and bound and bruised like that, I just had to take a polaroid. Then I rearranged the child on the bed so she was on her tummy with a pillow under her tiny hips to make her fat little bottom stick up in the air. I tied her wrists together again, fixing them to the bedhead railing and bound her ankles with long pieces of string reaching down the length of the bed to its legs either side, leaving her little legs stretched wide apart. Before caning the child's lovely bottom cheeks, I got my dildos out and, without any warning, rammed the ten inch long three inch diameter one (last used in Kate's lovely bottom and still with a residue of the whore's shit on it) up little Elodie's darling little vagina. The fuck baby screamed in her gag as I forced five inches of the huge dildo into her baby cunt, more length than I had given her with my penis and certainly a lot more thickness. Vowing to get another couple of inches into the infant girl later, I picked up my cane and held it in front of Elodie to watch her reaction which was as I'd hoped. Her pretty brown eyes went wide and she shook her head violently and cried out in her knickers. Standing to one side, I ran my hand over those wonderful baby buttocks and felt them and squeezed them then, after slapping them both a couple of times for the pleasure of seeing her fat cheeks wobble, I caned the child. Over twenty minutes I caned Elodie across her bottom from every angle I could manage sixty times and I gave the five year old twenty strokes along the valley of her little bum crack. I stopped mainly because my arm and my shoulder ached so much. Also, the child, still wailing in her gag, was sounding very weak. I didn't want her to faint on me. Her bottom was such a beautiful sight, I had to take some photos of it with the dildo sticking out of her cunthole between her little legs. Those pictures caused a sensation among my minitel friends and brought me a new local contact, 'Cherche Femmes Pour Tortures' or Jean-Jacques, as I'd later discover on meeting him. But back to my afternoon with my child bride Elodie. I managed only another inch of the dildo in its cunt and then gave up, gently pulling it out. I didn't want to split her perineum. After untieing, ungagging and cuddling the love child and then rubbing some ointment into her bottom and cunt, I helped her walk, stumbling, into the kitchen where I gave her some ice cream with chocolate sauce. Watching the sweet, tearful child sit completely bare at the table spooning up ice cream, I'm afraid I could not resist the temptation to make even this little scene deeply humiliating and sexual.
His mistake wasn't using olive oil. His mistake was using extra virgin olive oil.
Monolaurin is an extract from coconut milk that is used to kill herpes virus strains including Epstein-Barr.
The thing that bugs me about all of this is that most MDs don't seem to know about these things. MDs want to put you on toxic antivirals from pharm companies, when you can take something just as effective and nontoxic to humans like monolaurin.
If you're interested, see the Medicinal properties of the wikipedia article. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_milk"
Of course it slows down HIV. It's been known for a long time that high temperatures slow down the virus. But what's the point of frying people in olive oil?! Humans are also pretty incompatible with high temperatures!
From a biological perspective, this article doesn't seem to make sense whatsoever (maybe something is lost in translation?). My understanding is that there is a single protease encoded by the HIV genome which is essential for viral production...and that it is an ASPARTYL protease ("aspartyl" being a term used to classify a particular class of proteases). "Serin-protease" makes no sense, it's not a specific name of any enzyme--it's like saying "enzyme that binds glucose". If these are inhibitors of the the HIV protease I'm thinking of (the one actually called "HIV protease), there's nothing new about this--HIV protease inhibitors were among the first drugs used to treat the disease and have been around for close to 20 years now.... The only thing that makes sense to me is if they're suggesting this is a common natural substance that inviduals can take to prevent HIV infection. Even if this is true, it's IDIOTIC--having millions of people take a protease inhibitor as a prophylactic regimen is the most surefire way of generating HIV virus RESISTANT to the drug.
None of the news blurbs about this research mention any sort of publication associated with these findings (for example: "published in this week's issue of Science", etc.). Also, a quick search in pubmed for garcia-granados shows limited publications in specialist journals, nothing nearly as flashy as this olive-oil HIV thing. My guess is they haven't published yet, or even had their paper reviewed yet. Most respectable journals embargo press releases until the issue of the journal comes out in which the findings are reported. This could certainly be interesting, but for now I would take it with a grain of salt, especially the part about "the use of olive-pomace oil can produce an 80 per cent slowing down in AIDS spreading in the body." WHAT body?? There's no way this treatment is in human clinical trials. This statement is pure baloney. Judging from their publication record, the Garcia-Granados lab is purely an organic chemistry/biochemistry lab. I seriously doubt they have any data with mammalian models.
I fry/saute with extra virgin olive oil - "First Cold Press", the glass bottle claims. It's imported, I live in the United States of America. It's delicious!
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No! You can't possibly! If it's in the US it must be inferior to anything European! Go read your Slashdot handbook immediately.
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The point is, by allowing the inferior crap on your shelves, you drive up the price of decent stuff. In europe, we pay about as much for decent olive oil or chocolate or coffee as you pay for processed muck (well, not recently, if you consider exchange rates, BUT, as a proportion of our take-home pay, if we spend as much, we get much better food and drink. Because, well, we have standards. It's like dating.)
You forgot to add the reason: Because we Americans are all like Jethro Bodine and don't appreciate the difference anyway.
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I entertain Europeans regularly, and most are thrilled to get a decent steak, stating that European beef is just bland and plain (I agree). And these are business owners and rather affluent people who would eat in the finer places. I guess all our harmones and antibiotics make our beef tastier. Our pork and poultry also kicks their asses, likely for the same reasons: Ours are healthier with the extra drugs they ban there.
They also like California wines (similar in quality to French). They do, however, hate our French Fries. I have to admit, they make better fries. And chocolate.
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I don't know about deep frying (peanut oil all the way there), but sesame oil is awesome for pan-frying and stir-frying.
I, OTOH have never seen anybody get sick/die from food poisoning because he ate non-pasteurized Cheese.
Microbiological checks at the production facility, proper storage at home and the "Best before" date should be enough and if you eat anything (way) past the BB date it's your own fault if you get an aching tummy.
Which is why I always wear two condoms Trebek. I'll take "Anal bum cover" for $500.
... and the singular form of criteria is criterion. Who knew?!
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Let your 'friend' know that animal fats work best for cast iron. Most vegetable oils tend to get gummy. A good hunk of lard does wonders
It's ironic because most people, including some of the early posters, associate high-quality, high-price, extra virgin olive oil as being "more healthful" than the cheap stuff. I'd wager than more than few victims of HIV/AIDs are buying extra virgin oil on the news of the experimental result in hopes of stemming the progress of their illness.
It's ironic if oil extracted with chemical solvents is actually more beneficial than the pure, traditional, cold pressed oil.
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Thanks, I'll let "him" know.
They are way over enthusiastic...Slow pasteurization or no pasteurization for certain things is acceptable as long as it's clearly labeled...Not everything needs to be nuked to fricking death. People die from undercooked meat as well, but if I'm going to have a fillet, I'm not going to cook it brown just to save myself a tiny bit of risk. What the hell is the point?
Likewise, I'd rather be able to make an informed choice about the origins of my food...GM vegetables aren't a big concern of mine, other than the fact that I fricking hate Monsanto and their ilk over the goddamn self-terminating seed issue, and would like to be able to avoid their products. However, hormone treated animal meat/milk bothers me, and I'd really like to be able to avoid that by some method other than raising my own cows.
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As for pasteurisation, people should surely have the choice whether they want to be able to eat cheese made from pasteurised milk or not.
"It isn't like there is no reason for it".
Perhaps there are good reasons to pasteurise, but you ever tried cheese made from raw milk? These cheeses taste better and when it comes down to it, if I wanna take a risk, surely it is up to me to decide.
If the pattern goes 9am, 10am, 11am, why isn't noon 12am?
It is not sane to trust a flimsy latex membrane to save you from horrible diseases that can kill you.
It is not moral or ethical to suggest that somebody trust their life to a condom.
Sure, it may work most of the time, but "most" is nowhere near good enough. You can accept "most" when the consequence is something like losing $1000, losing your job, a broken arm, a dead pet, etc. It's not good enough for human death.
What makes the suggestion really evil is that most people don't understand probability, let alone any serious statistics. Suppose you do everything right, and get 99% protection -- a generous estimate indeed. Suppose you have sex once a week, year after year. Do you know how to calculate the chance of infection after a decade of that behavior? I do. You have a 99.46% chance of getting the disease!!!
Let me repeat: 99.46%
That's a death sentence.
Guys there believe that sex with a virgin will suck the HIV out of their bodies. Very young girls, even babies, are frequently raped for this reason.
In Italy, we use EVOO for frying because it isn't as expensive as it is in other countries. Plus, it doesn't degrade at high temperatures as other kinds of oils do, so it's healthier. I bet in Spain and in Greece they do the same.
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Yes, it is a nasty disease, a friend of mines 25 year old son was recently diagnosed with it. And a very gifted pianist I know has had it for several years. I have a lot of sympathy and compassion for anyone with this terrible disease. But that said, there are two simple rules...
1. Don't share needles if you are a drug user.
2. Sexual contact - use a condom.
If everybody followed these simple, common sense rules, there would be no HIV/AID epidemic.
Iatrogenic CJD is caused by natural hGH harvested from cadavers, not rhGH made in a lab.
I'm pretty sure they don't use cadaver hGH anymore.
It's not exactly "each male child has a higher chance of being gay than the previous one".
It's consecutive male children. Granted, a woman with only 2 kids can't have 3 males in a row, but there isn't much difference between 7 kids and 12 kids.
Either way, this suggests that homosexuality is NOT genetic. Since the research used adoption cases to rule out the family situation, the womb environment is suspected, particularly the mother's immune system. In other words, it's a birth defect. (there is no rule that says birth defects must be visible physical deformities -- they can be behavioral abnormalities too)
No wonder its called Canola oil these days.
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The fundamental human right to have and express an opinion is rather endangered these days.
Europe lost it a long time ago. Merely expressing the opinion that the Holocoust didn't happen will put you in jail in many European countries. France is not a free country. Germany is not a free country. I think Austria and Belgium are on that list too, among others.
In the USA, you can still express irrational hatred, but this causes you to be unfairly punished for minor crimes. For example, suppose you hate black people and let everybody know it. Suppose you are also a common crook or mildly violent. Suppose you beat somebody up. If you beat up a white person, it's a minor offense. If you happen to beat up a black person, it's a major felony -- even if you just did it to get his wallet or because he insulted your girlfriend.
There are some studies about neem oil against HIV, working by slowing down the production of viral proteins. Don't expect any of these to be certified in the US anytime soon.. the process involves expensive and expensive testing, and since these natural cures are not patentable, no pharma company is going to submit it for certification. Unless they can isolate the active ingredient, of course.
Blend then drink it all down.
It won't cure AIDS but it will tell you what your asshole is for.
Cold Press - First Cold Press, baby. Everything else on the label is just spin.
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They will soon learn that olive oil is only part of the solution.
Research will prove that a cocktail of olive oil, oatmeal, flax oil, and fish oil poured over the circumcised genitals will be the key.
Ugh, enough with the absurd AIDS article of the week. It is as if science, logic, and statistics no longer apply when you discuss AIDS. It has been over 20 years since the discovery of the HIV virus and there is no sign of a cure for AIDS. Why? Because Berkeley professor Peter Duesberg has already determined that HIV is not the cause of AIDS.
Pretty sure the "extra virgin" is what helps you stop the AIDS....
It's probably nonsense, as many posters have already pointed out, but that won't stop it being used as "evidence" for more nonsense like some important South Africans' beliefs about how to stop AIDS http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,36 04,1477400,00.html .
You have to pass all these obstacles:
- Have an infected partner
- Have a broken condom
- Actually contract AIDS from the exposure
Now in most cases, if you knowingly have encounter the first obstacle and proceed with sex, protected or not, you are knowingly engaging in a heavy risk. Multiple partners of course increases the risk of being unknowingly exposed, so knowing your partner is a bit thing, but adding protection to a known partner does greatly reduce risks.
99% protection is still pretty damn good if you've got a reliable partner and are practicing good sexual practices/hygiene, although I would personally advocate against promiscuity I have nothing against sex itself. One would hope that having sex weekly for several years, you would have a partner who had been screened against HIV and safe. I'd like to know where you got the 99% number, care to cite your sources and factors?
I'm not going to cook it brown just to save myself a tiny bit of risk.
For steaks, the most likely location of contamination is the outside. So a surface browning is sufficient.
If you've ever disassembled an animal, you know why (it's a messy operation). With ground meats, the surface contamination is mixed through the whole body of the meat.
For that reason, I'd rather buy ground meats frozen.
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...olive pomade on the body *is* one way to prevent the spread of AIDS.
Because we all know that french people are dying by DROVE due to their cheese eating habbit. Can you see that, every years millions of them die. Oh mon dieux, c'est un terrible massacre.
Or alternatively the rare case of listerose *may* come from a badly made cheese, just like the rare case of salmonelose is from bad hygien/bad cold chain, and I even hear in some country where they pasteurize everything they can't avoid the odd epidemic of bad spinach.
Oh sure - but let us not forget if "sauter means 'to jump' in French," sauté means "jumped".
How many beans make five, anyhow ?
When you fry food a certain percentage of moisture that is present in the food must evaporate out of the food before the oil can penetrate it. Each oil has a different percentage of moisture that must evaporate first before penetrating. Of the different oils olive oil has one of the highest percentages of moisture that first has to evaporate. This means that the food stays in the oil for longer without the oil penetrating the food and leads to the food feeling less oily after cooking. It's also a healthier type of oil to use than most other oils due to the fat type.
You would definitely want to fry with a filtered olive oil to make sure that the little bits of olive won't scorch and it wouldn't make sense to pick the most delicate tasting oil as much of the taste would be lost during the heating and frying process. But, filtered EVOO is very good for a home kitchen for frying because the antioxidants that are present in it will help keep the oil from degrading. Olive oil is NOT an appropriate choice for frying in a restaurant because it doesn't handle being heated up over and over again and kept at hot temperatures for long periods of time.
Also, EVOO is defined by acidity the world over, among other factors such as taste and having no processing other than filtering. From the IOOC website: Virgin olive oils are the oils obtained from the fruit of the olive tree solely by mechanical or other physical means under conditions, particularly thermal conditions, that do not lead to alterations in the oil, and which have not undergone any treatment other than washing, decantation, centrifugation and filtration.
Virgin olive oils fit for consumption as they are include:
Extra virgin olive oil: virgin olive oil which has a free acidity, expressed as oleic acid, of not more than 0.8 grams per 100 grams, and the other characteristics of which correspond to those fixed for this category in this standard If by so you're not buying real EVOO at the stores you mean the normal brands in the clear glass containers on the supermarket shelves, you're right. You can tell that by looking at the label, but unfortunately most Americans aren't educated on what to look for.
Keith
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The 'extra virgin' classification doesn't mean very much now, if it ever did. It essentially means it comes from the first pressing of the olives. But with modern machinery, the first pressing can extract a large amount of oil. In some countries most olive oil produced counts as extra virgin, with lower grades made in smaller quantities. So it's not exactly a waste to use it for frying - it often isn't much more expensive than lower-grade olive oil.
You are right that chemically it may not be well suited for frying. Perhaps lard is best after all.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
If you got that "1 in 50" figure from about.com, then AFAICT it simply referred to the risk in any given unprotected sexual encounter with a random person. In other words, it already took the percentage of infected people into account; so you're counting it twice.
Still, that's the figures without condom use. And also, I note that about.com gave the risk of unprotected receptive anal sex as between 1 in 50 and 1 in 1300 (a much lower figure). (I would assume that the 1 in 50 figure is a "worst case" guess, and that it applies mainly to ultra-promiscuous gay men in drug-using, multiple-partners/clubbing type situations).
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Imagine the great wealth of medicines and knowledge we could extract from plants, not even know yet, from the vast rainforests and jungles around the world. Oh wait, we're cutting those down for cheap wood, grain and soja. Too bad...
Yeah, I agree that the HIV protease is an aspartyl protease (uses two residues of aspartate to chop up proteins) and not a serine one (uses one residue of serine to do the same) but this new compound, as I understand the article, is in fact a SERINE proteases inhibitor that happens to slow down the spread of HIV (and other organisms) - which also isn't entirely new.
"Sometimes I think Christians get all hung up on the sex thing because it's easier to worry about sex than to ask yourself, Am I a good person? If as long as you don't have sex with a lot of people you're a good person, that's easy. It's easy to avoid that. It's easy to think, I'm not f***ing anyone, so I'm good. It makes it easy to be cruel, because as long as you're not f***ing around, nothing you do can be that bad. Is that really all you think of God? Is he just the sex police for you... Or is it that sex is easy to worry about, easy to avoid, and the whole love-your-neighbor-as-you-love-yourself thing that's hard?"
--Laurell K. Hamilton, The Harlequin
You guys are wasting WAY too much time cooking! Why can't you do something more constructive with your life, like joining a WoW guild or becoming an online porn addict?!?!
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Ugh. Me use words good.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I do tend to cook ground beef a bit more, though I have to admit, I love the rare hamburger...Sometimes I buy higher end meat, just so I can eat a rare burger with low risk.
It's all about acceptable risks. There is a little risk in all of it, but if you're intelligent about it, you can still eat stuff that tastes good without too much worry.
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
atrogenic CJD is caused by natural hGH harvested from cadavers, not rhGH made in a lab. I'm pretty sure they don't use cadaver hGH anymore.
So you're saying this soylent cola isn't good for me? Guess I'd best switch to Slurm...
John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
I was going to discuss any similarities with the movie, (ie good luck with that), but I doubt anyone will read past the retard postings, so never mind.
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* Bold emphasis from wikipedia article
* Uppercase emphasis is mine (the bold being difficult to see through the blockquote formatting)
For rare or medium hamburgers, buy your meat, sear it, and grind it yourself. A food processor can work if you do not have a grinder.