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Remote Access Policies

Samalie writes "My company is considering implementing a formal remote access policy (and agreement for staff to sign) for users who access our network from home via VPN. Does anyone out there have any suggestions as to what this policy/agreement should contain? Anyone have their own corporate policy that I can borrow from? This is the first time I've come across anyone wanting a formal policy for this & online searches haven't been very helpful."

178 comments

  1. Is this real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Did you even look at SANS?

    1. Re:Is this real? by s-twig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did he even know SANS existed? You could be bothered to post a wry comment but couldn't muster the extra key strokes to make yourself helpful. C'mon be nice. :)

    2. Re:Is this real? by tyler.willard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did he even know SANS existed?

      The inquirer did say:

      ...online searches haven't been very helpful...

      This ain't my area either but googling for:

      corporate vpn policy

      produces sans' example policy as the first hit. As such, it looks to me like the OP was in order.

    3. Re:Is this real? by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

      I don't think that the Snowmobilers Association of Nova Scotia can really help you with this.

      In all seriousness if you try and do this with corporate policy then you have to monitor compliance. Then you have to deal with disciplinary issues and I can guarentee that the worst offenders will be higherups who will be immune from the disciplinary measures they so richly deserve. SANS basicly means that if your system doesn't pass certain "checks" you define then it will not allow a real connection to the network. You can check if virus definitions are up to date (a good one to have). You can check for critical security patches. You can even specify the existance of certain files to stop access in the event of a particular infection.

       

  2. SANS Templates by Wanker · · Score: 5, Informative

    The templates provided by SANS are a good place to start:

    All of them are here:

    http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/

    Here's the remote access policy example:

    http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/Remote_Access_Policy.pdf [PDF]

    1. Re:SANS Templates by clockwise_music · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't make users sign it. That's ridiculous. But here's what it should be:

      1. Same restrictions as what you have from work. No pr0n, nothing illegal.

      2. User must have at least xp sp2 with patches installed with virus scanner X - or whatever your default company policy is. Or give them a pre-setup laptop. (Probably save you money in the long term, less chance of viruses etc)

      3. Users must email their manager every 10 minutes to let them know that they're online.

    2. Re:SANS Templates by Swizec · · Score: 1

      3. Users must email their manager every 10 minutes to let them know that they're online.

      The poor manager sob, wouldn't want to be him.

    3. Re:SANS Templates by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      3. Users must email their manager every 10 minutes to let them know that they're online.

      Start with that, then when the boss complains tell him you'll investigate a more suitable solution. Spend 2 days looking at web comics and reading http://www.notalwaysright.com/ then make the RDP session inactivity timeout 10 minutes.

      Wait for contract negotiation time.

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    4. Re:SANS Templates by HardCase · · Score: 1

      If the original questioner's company is relying on the IT department to craft a legal document for any purpose, they're doing it wrong.

      The IT department's business is implementing the remote access. The legal department's (or a lawyer that the company hires) business is creating the document covering the agreement between the company and the employees.

      You don't want a bunch of lawyers configuring and maintaining your network...why should the network admins do an attorney's job?

    5. Re:SANS Templates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are other agencies, such as NIST, that may help. They offer checklists and guides for configuring specific systems:
      http://checklists.nist.gov/ncp.cfm

      Other US Agencies also are concerned with security.
      SECURE REMOTE COMPUTING
      SECURITY TECHNICAL IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE
      http://iase.disa.mil/stigs/stig/src-stig-v1r2.pdf

  3. Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Swift+Kick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A link to the SANS Institute example for a Remote Access Policy doc (PDF format):

    http://www.sans.org/resources/policies/Remote_Access_Policy.pdf

    This is the first time I've come across anyone wanting a formal policy for this & online searches haven't been very helpful.

    It looks like there's a trend going on; most of the last few Ask Slashdot articles seem to be written by people who can't be bothered to do a little work.

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    1. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      most of the last few Ask Slashdot articles seem to be written by people who can't be bothered to do a little work.

      That's why I got into computers.

    2. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by kido9797 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My company uses a router and we're all in a NAT environment. We just use simple Hamachi + VNC to get directly into my PC at night. No one notice and we're happy with that.

    3. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

      Which begs the question, is there an "Ask Slashdot" question that cannot be answered by a Google search?

      If most "Ask Slashdot" questions can be answered by Google, and Slashdot screens them out by searching Google first, and after finding an answer tell the submitter to F-ing Google it and cancel the story. There there wouldn't be any material for "Ask Slashdot".

      A good question to ask Slashdot that Google couldn't answer is "What web site can I buy a Rose Ratchet Whatchamigiger (From a "Pinky and the Brain" episode) and also ask what it is used for.

      Another good question would be "Where do I find '101 BASIC Computer Games', a book that has been out of print since the 1980's and uses Darth Mouth and Microsoft BASIC."

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    4. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "begs the question"?... Really?... Here?

    5. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Answering your second good question:

      https://www.powells.com/s?kw=101+BASIC+Computer+Games

      $45

    6. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      1) Get an IT job.
      2) Ask Slashdot how to do it.
      3) ?????
      4) Profit!

    7. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by Slashcrap · · Score: 2, Funny

      My company uses a router and we're all in a NAT environment. We just use simple Hamachi + VNC to get directly into my PC at night. No one notice and we're happy with that.

      This is some real Enterprise level shit right here.

    8. Re:Very first (non-sponsored) hit on Google! by animusCollards · · Score: 1
  4. You don't need a policy by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    above what you should already have for them to use a computer.

    Seriously. It's all going to be the same stuff. What makes people think behavior will be different depending on which keyboard they happen to be behind.

    You could make a VPN boot disk.
    This way you can separate what is on their machine with the VPN instance. Requires no brain power to use. Boot's up, big VPN icon. Click enter password, good to go.
    Obviously, encrypt it.

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    1. Re:You don't need a policy by amirulbahr · · Score: 1

      I second this idea. Alternatively, make all access through a remote desktop session (be it RDP, VNC, SSGD, Sun Ray, NX, etc). Don't allow access to the intranet or file servers or other server applications expect the remote desktop.

      This way, when they log in to the work session they feel like they are logged in at work.

  5. Just obvious stuff by _merlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    KISS principle: just say the VPN should only be used as you'd use the connection at work. (Keep it work-related, no excessive personal utilisation. No pr0n or illegal material. Don't forward the connection in any way - including web proxies and Tor. Keep your security software up to date. Take reasonable measures to ensure private keys, passwords and other security devices are not lost. Report any potential breaches immediately.)

    1. Re:Just obvious stuff by jbruno · · Score: 1

      KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid. How is this simple? 99.9% of people I know don't follow this advice.

    2. Re:Just obvious stuff by profplump · · Score: 1

      Simple doesn't necessarily mean widely adopted. Composting is simple -- you just through things in a bucket and stir them from time to time -- but most people don't do it.

      The "simple" part of his plan comes from having the remote access policy be no different than the local access policy -- the local access policy might already be complicated, but making the remote access policy (nearly) identical minimizes any additional complication.

  6. Well... by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What rules do you want to set up? What do you want to allow and disallow of your users / employees?

    Figure this out, write it down, get a lawyer to look at it, and you're done.

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  7. Use Laptops by George+Beech · · Score: 5, Informative

    We require all users with remote access to use corporate laptops that are locked down. You cannot connect your personal computer via vpn. Also there is the standard "treat it as if you were sitting at your desk, all rules regulations etc. still apply."

    1. Re:Use Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I second this. As an employee, I don't want to pollute my personal computer with work related stuff. It takes away valuable pr0n storage space.

    2. Re:Use Laptops by George+Beech · · Score: 1

      I actually find that they still find ways to get pr0n on them ... Although the proxy logs are entertaining sometimes when a lot of people are working from home. Oh and one thing i forgot ... don't allow split-horizon vpn.

    3. Re:Use Laptops by tftp · · Score: 3, Informative

      I third this. You can't expect your employees to comply to boring rules in a boring piece of paper. You need to make it plain impossible to connect using home computers. Give the user a laptop and he can carry it home if he wants. Give him an RSA token to be doubly sure.

    4. Re:Use Laptops by afidel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I took a different approach, we use Citrix for remote access. We have the Java client installed and have a link to the zero touch client which doesn't need to be installed to run. That way you can get in from all but the most severely locked down internet kiosks. There's no risk to the corporate network and it enables my user to be productive from anywhere. It's also WAY faster than a VPN for most types of work.

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    5. Re:Use Laptops by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is how 98% of all fortune 500 companies do this.

      you're a nut if you allow a personal PC to connect to the company network.

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    6. Re:Use Laptops by [ByteMe] · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay...I'll ask...

      For one thing you state that "you can get in from all but the most severely locked down internet kiosks". I guess you look at that as a feature, while I look at it as a malfunction. You've now extended your boundary and your risk to every poorly managed internet kiosk that any of your users use. So, you've never seen an internet kiosk in a hotel or other location that has questionable software, even obvious malware, installed?

      Then, you claim "there's no risk to the corporate network". I don't know what sort of company you use, but if you think that providing a full desktop via Citrix, with access to all a user's regular internal documents and resources, to an endpoint that cannot be proved to be secure, is a "no risk" proposition then I would recommend you reconsider.

      Not saying that Citrix doesn't have a place--but the authentication/authorization needs to be two-factor (not just a re-usable username/password combo) and the authenticated user should ideally only have read access and then only to less sensitive files. If someone needs the ability to modify files, or to access particularly sensitive ones, then the Citrix client just can't be proved to be providing enough assurance that the underlying OS/hardware isn't compromised. And *that* is why I have three separate laptops from three separate organizations just to be able to get my job(s) done...

    7. Re:Use Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's what we do too. Everybody has to access via the corporate laptop and in 2 cases, people brought a desktop home. This way, we could make sure they were running anti-virus and it was current and also remote in for troubleshooting. Some were using VPN clients and some were using Linksys BEFVP41 routers that I preconfigured and gave to them.

    8. Re:Use Laptops by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      With two factor authentication and ssl tranporting Citrix secure ica protocol there's plenty of secrecy and authentication The fact that only the display and printer are mapped back to the client (and we use the upd, no native drivers) means there's not really any exposure to client malware. Files only traverse through a user browsing back to the local pc and all files are scanned. We also use the old file explorer view so we don't have exposure to folder content browsing bugs which are the only attack vector I am aware of through the callback mechanism. This is certainly a MUCH smaller attack surface than a full vpn connection where to be functional all sorts of ports need to be open.

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    9. Re:Use Laptops by jax555 · · Score: 1

      It can be a tricky balancing act... Sometimes, allowing people to log in through a home computer can blur the distinction between work and home (which is great if you want to eke that much more work out of people). If you lock it down, people may just leave work at work - An example - You probably wouldn't take a work laptop on holiday, but if you are at a computer anyway you might check your work email.
      We had a totally slack policy before, and now they have locked it down (company laptops only). Now I don't work from home at all - Its is bloody awesome and wish it had happened earlier.

    10. Re:Use Laptops by Macman408 · · Score: 1

      This is how 98% of all fortune 500 companies do this.

      you're a nut if you allow a personal PC to connect to the company network.

      On the other hand, I'm 98% more efficient on my personal PC than on my work PC, and the cost for my RSA token is 98% less than a laptop. I'm also 98% more likely to log in remotely from my personal PC than I would be from a laptop - it's easy to log on and keep up with E-mails during off-work hours (if I want to, anyway). If I had to drag out a different computer, there's no way I'd be doing it unless I was expecting something.

      My previous employer's policy was to have antivirus installed, and disallow split tunneling (to avoid the remote computer becoming a conduit between the public internet and the internal network). My current employer wants antivirus, but allows split tunneling.

      Here's the real question: whose time is more valuable, the people who will be using the network remotely, or the people who will be fixing it when one of the users does something bad? The less valuable the users' time is, the better case you can make for locking the VPN connection down to prevent anything from getting fouled up.

    11. Re:Use Laptops by MadMidnightBomber · · Score: 1

      Same policy here - only I can install exactly what I want on my work laptop, so in practice it is the *exact same config* as my home one - Ubuntu 8.04. So, I'm allowed to use one but not the other of two identical frickin' laptops. Go figure.

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    12. Re:Use Laptops by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      you're a nut if you allow a personal PC to connect to the company network.

      Why?

      Sorry for the simplicity there, but if your network is properly secured, that shouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, you shouldn't be connected to the internet.

    13. Re:Use Laptops by thsths · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > The fact that only the display and printer are mapped back to the client (and we use the upd, no native drivers) means there's not really any exposure to client malware.

      Yes, but what about user input? Malware could easily intercept key strokes, and that could be sensitive information. Do you use passwords, for example? I know single sign on is the big thing, but I have not seen a single place where it actually works.

    14. Re:Use Laptops by JimFive · · Score: 1

      you're a nut if you allow a personal PC to connect to the company network.

      Why?

      Sorry for the simplicity there, but if your network is properly secured, that shouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, you shouldn't be connected to the internet.

      Because it isn't possible to properly secure your network when your network now includes all of your employee's home computers.

      Part of securing your network is having a hard edge between your network and not your network. Another part is having physical control over those devices on the inside of that line. Home computers violate both of those principles. That doesn't mean that there aren't circumstances when you should allow it, but you need to be aware of the implications.
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  8. One policy: don't make it necessary by davidwr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Either give people laptops or give them a way to do what they need to do on servers you control.

    This can be a web-based front-end to the applications they use, an ftp site so they can up/download files and edit them on their home computer, or even something like Windows Terminal Services or Citrix.

    If your company is enlightened enough to not use Microsoft, there are even more options available.

    If you allow people to remote login, you need to make very sure that not only is the VPN tunnel secure against attacks, but that their machine can't do anything hostile to your LAN in case their password is compromised. Of course, you should be doing that anyways but many companies don't treat computers in the network as "presumed hostile" to every other device on the network. You should always do that, but If you are going to allow remote login it's even more important.

    As a bonus, if you put most of your business-critical applications on a server you control, it's easier to make sure data gets backed up and you can usually get away with a longer computer-replacement cycle or buy slightly cheaper computers when you do replace them. Of course, you'll pay more for server costs and you'll need more expertise in your IT dept. to manage it, but in many shops this is worth it.

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    1. Re:One policy: don't make it necessary by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Funny, you talk about being enlightened enough not to use Microsoft. I used to work there, and their VPN set up was easily one of the nicest I'd ever seen.

      Smartcards and native connection stuff in Windows. Once connected you were "quarantined" until a security scan had been run on your machine, and even then you had different access based on location.

      But of course, this is Slashdot...

    2. Re:One policy: don't make it necessary by Malc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Consequences of the NT4/Win2K source code leak a few years back? Didn't that happen via VPN?

    3. Re:One policy: don't make it necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consequences of the NT4/Win2K source code leak a few years back? Didn't that happen via VPN?

      Not from Microsoft's VPN, from a contractor's.

  9. Too long by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are two purposes for such documents:
    Inform: part from the little "purpose" bit, the SANS does not do much.
    (2) A legal rope to hang a user with. What most of the SANS doc is.

    Folks, nobody reads a document like this. They will lose interest after the first few lines then either skip to the signing bit or throw it away.

    Real security comes from informing the user, not from baffling and swamping them with techno-legal bs.

    If you want real security, then clearly explain the issues.

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    1. Re:Too long by geekmux · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Folks, nobody reads a document like this. They will lose interest after the first few lines then either skip to the signing bit or throw it away.

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      If you want real security, then clearly explain the issues.

      Bullshit. If you want real Security, enforce the punishment. Yes, it's that simple, and is also the answer to my previous question.

      People read through 3 inches of legal docs when buying a home because they know damn well they could get burned legally.

      Name the last time someone you know got fired for breaking a Security policy, or losing a laptop and not following protocol properly to report the company confidential data loss.

      I thought so.

      'Nuff said.

    2. Re:Too long by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      *hands you an imaginary +1 mod point of "good job!"*

    3. Re:Too long by petard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      If you want real security, then clearly explain the issues.

      Bullshit. If you want real Security, enforce the punishment. Yes, it's that simple, and is also the answer to my previous question.

      People read through 3 inches of legal docs when buying a home because they know damn well they could get burned legally.

      Name the last time someone you know got fired for breaking a Security policy, or losing a laptop and not following protocol properly to report the company confidential data loss.

      I thought so.

      'Nuff said.

      The current problems which are being, at least partially, blamed on deceptive lending practices in the mortgage industry would suggest that many people do not actually read through the legal documents they sign when they purchase a home. Do you think that for these deceptive loans, the stack of legal documents did not contain the truth? Of course it did. It was just buried in a pile of legalese, and people simply went with what the nice broker told them.

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    4. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The problem is, even if users DO read it, will they understand this, for example?

      Frame Relay must meet minimum authentication requirements of DLCI standards.

      (from the SANS Remote Access Policy doc). I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "no."

    5. Re:Too long by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And most of those people actually thought they could get away with it, that is legally stealing from the banks. I had similar offers made when I was looking for a home and I KNEW something was fishy about having loans that are cheaper than the deprecation of it's own value although I'm not a lawyer (if yearly inflation rates are higher than your APR something is wrong because then the bank would over time pay you to loan their money).

      Also I know that VARIABLE percentages means that the person loaning to you can jack up the prices as they want (just look at your energy bill with variable adjustments) but unlike an energy bill which you can change every year, you make the choice for the next 15-30 years no matter what happens to either yourself or the economy. It's a matter of federal law that rates and types are made clear to the buyer before lending and usually it's either on the first or last page, requiring a signature next to it.

      If people are too stupid and like to listen to their SALESman instead of forking over $200 to a real-estate lawyer (that's what it costed my parents 2 years ago) to review and make clear the paperwork to them then that's their own fault.

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    6. Re:Too long by petard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If people are too stupid and like to listen to their SALESman instead of forking over $200 to a real-estate lawyer (that's what it costed my parents 2 years ago) to review and make clear the paperwork to them then that's their own fault.

      I'm not arguing with this; you're right on. I was simply disputing the notion put forth by the post I was responding to. geekmux said that if these legal agreements had teeth, people would read them and offered as an example the notion that people generally read the paperwork that they have to sign when they purchase a home. I maintain that the current financial mess is due, in part, to the fact that people don't read legalese even when not doing so can have dire consequences. So giving these agreements more teeth would be of little help in getting people to read and adhere to them :-/

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    7. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because if YOU are buying a home, which is perhaps the biggest investment you'll ever make, the biggest risk you'll ever take, and which offers potentially the biggest benefit you'll ever receive from a purchase, then you better damn well believe that you will read and understand every single cotton picking stroke of the pen located on the fibers of ten feet thick of legal document.
       
      But when you are filling out what you perceive to be some silly formality in order to obtain access to some system, a system that belongs to someone else, that was paid for by someone else, which is maintained by someone else, and which you will use for the benefit of someone else (allowing, of course, for the fact that the aforementioned someone else will, in exchange, pay your living), well, need I say any more? Of course you won't care what is written on that silly form.

    8. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enforce the punishment to gain security? Sure... It's as simple as stopping all crime in the US.

      Security policies and punishment only are useful for keeping the honest people honest. The criminals don't follow the rules and risk that they'll not get caught and therefore avoid the punishment. Even without enforcing punishment, the biggest difficulty I've seen is detecting security violations. They can come from nearly anywhere. If they can be and are detected, a simple email "Do not do that!" will keep the honest people honest. No firing needed.

    9. Re:Too long by rarity · · Score: 1

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      What makes you think that they do? Have you looked at the mortgage market recently?

    10. Re:Too long by Sobrique · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Teeth is one thing, but a clear understanding of what and why is probably more useful.

      People don't like to be bullied. They don't like to be told 'you will do this, or you will be fired'. It causes resistance, and adherence to the letter of the law, not the spirit of it.

      Which is why it's important to make people understand the spirit of the law - tech changes, and security shifts dramatically. It requires everyone to 'buy in' (I hate that phrase) to why security is important - why it's bad to 'be polite' and hold the door for someone, without checking their ID badge. That kind of thing.

      Present them with why such a policy is needed - lay out just why you're wanting to protect all your stuff. Explain what causes 'problems', and the types of thing they should be wary of.

      Point out you're making every effort to avoid this sort of thing happening accidentally, which is why you've given them this mechanism for logging in, which is pretty 'safe', provided they use it under particular conditions.

      And _then_ point out that you'll have to enforce rules, and if those rules are willfully broken it'll be considered a disciplinary matter.

    11. Re:Too long by mattib · · Score: 1

      "Don't do that" will only work after "that" has been done. People aren't going to be careful about not doing something which will only result in a "Don't do that, pretty please?" response. "Don't do that or you will be fired!" makes people WANT to actively avoid doing whatever "that" is.

    12. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think a combination of the two approaches is in order. Explain everything, but also have the teeth.

      By explaining the why issues, people will understand why security is important and maybe it will help with convincing people to follow the rules, be on the lookout for signs of intrusion, etc.

      But human nature being what it is, they also look for convenience even at the expense of security. That's why you need the teeth.

      Explain why it's important, and help them understand as much as reasonably possible, but also have the teeth so the few that think security doesn't apply to them have a reason to get on board as well.

      I do security as part of my IT job and I can attest to most people who understand wanting to help out. But I can also attest to a few that no matter how much you try to explain, they can't be bothered. And it only takes one to invite in a breech.

    13. Re:Too long by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      The terms "paper drill" and "check-the-blocks" comes to mind. I don't really care about the implications of my company's VPN policy...at least not compared to the implications of the documentation associated with home-ownership.

    14. Re:Too long by geekmux · · Score: 2, Informative

      The terms "paper drill" and "check-the-blocks" comes to mind. I don't really care about the implications of my company's VPN policy...at least not compared to the implications of the documentation associated with home-ownership.

      Ah, exactly my point. You don't care because IT policy violations do not hold repercussions serious enough.

      You might ACTUALLY care to not only read through the document, but adhere to the policy if your job was on the line.

      Sorry, but from a business standpoint, your home is likely worth far less than the millions invested in Engineering and Design, or even data within sales contact lists and internal price lists. This is why it kills me when I find corporations do not hold violators accountable.

    15. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When was the last time I saw someone fired for breaking a security policy?

      July 4th 2008 (within a day or two). We had a company lunch and while everyone was away from their desk a member of management walked around looking for violations. He saw a personal laptop hooked up to the corporate network. It wasn't long before it was treated as a full blown incident and she was let go.

      FWIW, she was let go based on the violation of the policy not because a virus got on the network or some other measurable effect. This was purely preventative. The assumption was that this person wouldn't follow the rules going forward and it would only be a matter of time until something bad did happen.

    16. Re:Too long by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Actually, I don't care because I know my company policy isn't legally enforceable. You can't just write up some legal mumbo-jumbo and have your employees sign it and call it legally binding.

    17. Re:Too long by Phred+T.+Magnificent · · Score: 1

      Ah, exactly my point. You don't care because IT policy violations do not hold repercussions serious enough. You might ACTUALLY care to not only read through the document, but adhere to the policy if your job was on the line. Sorry, but from a business standpoint, your home is likely worth far less than the millions invested in Engineering and Design, or even data within sales contact lists and internal price lists. This is why it kills me when I find corporations do not hold violators accountable.

      Ah, but you see, the employee can't be held accountable for those millions. The worst you can do is fire him. Your home may be worth less in strict dollar amount, but it's your loss if you lose it.

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    18. Re:Too long by vux984 · · Score: 1

      "Don't do that" will only work after "that" has been done. People aren't going to be careful about not doing something which will only result in a "Don't do that, pretty please?" response. "Don't do that or you will be fired!" makes people WANT to actively avoid doing whatever "that" is.

      Do you fire your top salesman because he forgot to lock his office door before he went home?

      A few months of a policy like that and you'll have a bunch of mediocre salesmen with excellent adherence to a door locking policy. At least when your business folds, you'll know it wasn't due to a loss incurred as a result of an unlocked door.

      Now lets rejoin the real world.

      "Don't do that or you will be fired" only works against employees low on the totem pole with unspecialized skillsets -- people who are very easily replaced. To everyone else it ranges from hollow threat to a joke.

      Anyone with a specialized skillset, who is difficult to replace, or otherwise has real value to the company isn't going to be fired over violating some dippy IT policy, especially if there was no actual harm. e.g. the salesman might be fired if his office is robbed, the company lost important data, and needs to make an example of someone to show that they are doing something, and appease the shareholders. But failing an actual catastrophe, the WORST they will ever do is say 'Don't do that, pretty please?'

    19. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      Because the home is important for them. The policy is important !them.

    20. Re:Too long by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Well apparently not that many people are reading their mortgage contracts, hence the large number of foreclosures out there

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    21. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So long as IT security people think users need to be fired for breaking the security policy, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel. And irrelevant.

      Most security policies are written by IT people who wish to cover their ass by sticking their head up it. They seldom have any sensitivity to business priorities, usability, or user/customer service. They seldom weigh the business value of enabling their users to do their job nor prioritize relative to the actual risks and threats. It is not some arbitrary set of do's and don't's with no reason, justification, or consideration.

      The ideal security policy needs little to no external enforcement, because users understand the business risks as well as the IT staff who implement it, and it all just works. It makes it easy to do the right things and hard to do the wrong things. And it ensures that everyone knows the difference. Especially the IT staff.

      If an employee shows flagrant disregard for the *spirit* of protecting business assets, that is a grave concern. Seldom is this what causes a "violation", however.

    22. Re:Too long by mattib · · Score: 1

      Do you fire your top salesman because he forgot to lock his office door before he went home?

      I think this is more akin to leaving the front doors unlocked and open. If somebody, for example, stole our customer records because of that, then yes. I would fire him. In any case the event would have some consequences to the person in question, most likely the loss of the door locking/unlocking privileges for a certain time.

      A few months of a policy like that and you'll have a bunch of mediocre salesmen with excellent adherence to a door locking policy. At least when your business folds, you'll know it wasn't due to a loss incurred as a result of an unlocked door.

      How much damage would it do to the company if someone walked in and stole our customer records and sold them to an competitor?

      But failing an actual catastrophe, the WORST they will ever do is say 'Don't do that, pretty please?'

      Then what they should say is "That will cause a catastrophe sooner or later and when it does, you will be fired to make an example out of you. So don't do that."

    23. Re:Too long by nsteinme · · Score: 1

      Why is it when we ask people to read through a 2-page user policy, they skip through and don't even bother reading to just sign it, yet those same people will sit down and pour through 3 inches of legal documents for 4 hours when buying a home?

      How often do you buy a home?

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  10. Why limit to just VPN? by Viree · · Score: 2, Informative

    The last few companies I've worked for make it mandatory for new employees to sign an AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). Sorta like a blanket coverage for all IT services, including networks usage. Depending on how large the company you're working for, you might be able to convince your HR to get all the existing employees to sign, too. That way you can avoid getting the employees to sign another document/agreement if you should implement new IT services.

  11. Big Brother Invasion by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 3, Interesting

    my company requires the following

    1. A specific virus scanner (Nortan AV yuck)
    2. A specific Firewall with company preset settings (blackice is what it used to be called its something else now)

    3. We are assigned an RSA SecurID FOB which my manager must periodically re-confirm that I am authorized to use (like once a year)

    basically it is a Huge pain only slightly offset by the convenience

    1. Re:Big Brother Invasion by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      How do they verify that you have that software installed? Or are you talking about on the remote system?

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    2. Re:Big Brother Invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A specific virus scanner (Nortan AV yuck)

      I kind of agree. At my company we required antivirus. My response was "will not install antivirus on a Linux machine". I got an exception.

      The primary reason should be obvious. My machine was not going to be a source of Windows viruses to the rest of the network. Even if they do run (I have wine installed but it takes effort to run an exe file), they aren't going to be able to spread in this weird environment.

    3. Re:Big Brother Invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Co builds the check into the policy of the Checkpoint software.. It will not connect without checking one of the 2?!?! approved AV products are running.. this used to be easy to work around, but they fixed the ridiculous hole with an update. and they use RSA fobs..and they friggin can't configure the system to do password resets by the user reliably.. That dept sucks balls That is on company owned laptops or personal PCs with the software installed- they also provide the AV software.. but then again, more than a couple people have had to reinstall the OS after installing the VPN software.. Which is why I just use a VM for a plain jane install specifically to vpn...

    4. Re:Big Brother Invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of the commercial SSL-VPN products have endpoint inspection. AFAIK, most (all?) of them use the OPSWAT libraries for Windows clients... (http://www.opswat.com/)

      meaning they install a bunch of stuff on your client if you want full access. No access to your PC (i.e. kiosk)? No problem, you get web-portal access only...

      (Full disclosure - I work for a company that makes/sells one of these ssl vpn products, but my statements are generic and related to most/all commercially available products in the space)

    5. Re:Big Brother Invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how is Motorola doing these days? ;)

    6. Re:Big Brother Invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, so you work for GE, too?

  12. Policies don't solve problems. people solve them. by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Before putting too much effort into this policy thing... Can I ask you one question: What's management going to do if someone breaks it? The majority of security policies only exist for two reasons -- to fire anyone who questions them and make management feel safe in having "done something to solve the problem". It's rather like expecting a terrorist to care that his car bomb is taking up two parking spaces... If this is management's only goal, just write some boiler-plate, broadly generalized piece that sounds really great but doesn't give any technical guidance. As a bonus, it'll never have to be updated after that, saving countless hours that would otherwise be spent securing the network.

    Note: This post contains 30% recycled sarcasm.

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  13. Don't use 'user' policies - use 'system' policies by vawarayer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find that whatever the user signs, it always gets broken one time or another. That is why I use - whenever possible - system policies instead of making them sign anything. If they can't do what you don't want them to do, it ought to be more reliable.

    • Set up firewall rules that would let them connect only to your mail server, or whatever they need remotely.
    • Make them connect to a terminal server with a very restrictive set of privileges and access to the network.
    • Close unnecessary remote ports so they can't do stuff you wouldn't expect, or infect your network with worms.
    • LOG ! LOG ! LOG ! I find everything should be logged! Especially traffic going in/out the local network. Have a good log retention policy.
    • ENFORCE strong passwords and change 'em when you feel fit.
    • This list could go on...

    The main idea is: restrict their remote access to what they really need. Some purist will reply 'oh yeah, but even if you do that, there's a way around for such and such reason.' or that it will become too restrictive. My answer: adapt to your user needs without letting it be the Wild Wild West.

    Maybe both signing an agreement AND enforcing policies is the best way to go.

  14. Uh, yes you do by trawg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a few things that are different and need to be considered when working from home. These are all things that I've been thinking about a lot for our company and, in my opinion, are very real issues for any company:

    1) Local shortcuts on your PC with saved passwords to work resources (eg, VPN connection details, saved passwords in web browser to access work webmail/intranets, etc)

    2) Log files for work-related chat - MSN, IRC, etc can sometimes contain confidential details.

    3) Work documents and other files.

    You can't just say you don't need a policy other than some vague notion of basic computer knowledge. Most people wouldn't think twice about downloading an important document and putting it on their computer at home.

    The two obvious risks that might lead to information leakage are a) their computer is compromised b) their computer is stolen. It's just a standard risk management excercise from here on it.

    1. Re:Uh, yes you do by Yeorwned · · Score: 0

      1) Use an RSA key generating card for logins 2) Using an instant messenger for confidential information? Sounds like VPN policy is the last thing you should be worried about... 3) Document management, such as Sharepoint. Gotta agree that another policy isn't exactly effective. Survey says majority of all users do not actually read them and the ones that do forget the details shortly thereafter. So your employees are now liable for damages? What are you going to do? Fire and sue them for the $500 of equity in their home?

    2. Re:Uh, yes you do by inKubus · · Score: 1

      If your documents are that sensitive, why aren't you using DRM? But true, threats, especially a message displayed at every login stating the policy, go a long way to keeping people on their toes. Periodically audit the machines remotely to see if there are any copied files, also.

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  15. Avoid Microsoft products at all cost by ZephyrXero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No Windows allowed unless on a company owned machine with absolutely no privaledges and a hardcore resident anti-malware tool running. If possible disable IE & Outlook too. If user is accessing via wifi require wpa2 encryption. Otherwise your users are gonna get you infected with their home Limewiring habits or at least have their login info stolen by a keylogger

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    1. Re:Avoid Microsoft products at all cost by mysidia · · Score: 3, Informative

      WPA2 can no longer be considered safe.

      A VPN connection with strong encryption must be used.

      Multi-factor authentication should be used to gain access.

      And once access is gained, traffic coming in from outside should be restricted to certain safe protocols and hosts (according to the user's needs)

    2. Re:Avoid Microsoft products at all cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Privaledges? Really?

  16. Look Broader by humphrm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what do your users do with VPN access? Access your network, yeah... then what? Email? Web access? You should already have AUPs for all of that, and access to those services via VPN is no different than if they're connected in the office.

    What you may be looking for is controlling the access, i.e. firewalls and virus scanners etc. If that's important, set up two-tier access:

    1. For users who have a laptop, put the access controls there, and make them only access the VPN via their company provided and controlled laptop. Then you set up the controls (firewall, virus scan, etc.) once and they apply whether they are directly connected or VPN'd in.

    2. For users who don't have a laptop, set up a remote desktop-type system where they use a web browser to access the remote desktop with SecurID.

    3. And I almost hate to mention this, but if most of your users are only accessing e-mail, think about setting up a Blackberry server. Sorry. Got my flame-retardant suit on. :)

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  17. What are the requirements? by Fastolfe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did an executive really just say, "I think we should have a formal policy"? Don't create bureaucracy and policy just for the sake of having bureaucracy and policy (making management look busy). Build your policy on the demands of your organization, and formalize it when it's necessary to do so.

    That being said, if your business doesn't deal much with sensitive data, you could get by with allowing personal computers, with up-to-date anti-virus software (maybe the company can pay for AV software for home computers). If you do deal with sensitive data, I would recommend issuing laptops to employees that need to work from home, and only allow VPN from those systems. Use certificates.

  18. It's simple by dr_strang · · Score: 1

    Only corporate laptops get to connect to the VPN. Period. No exceptions.

    Laptops aren't much more expensive than desktops these days, so it's pretty easy to get a user that has a demonstrated need for remote access a laptop. That way I still have control and they get access to the network.

    Other than that, the standard AUP is extended to encompass the corporate PC, whether it's in the office or remoting in.

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    1. Re:It's simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Requiring a corporate laptop to connect to a VPN is an easy way to make sure that I will never check email or do any work from home. In my company and other companies in my industry, every employee receives a laptop. I brought my laptop to and from home every day until my home computer's VPN was setup.

      Now in my world, people don't work 9 to 5... My VP and I were emailing information back and forth at 11pm today. That's not to mention all the meetings with sites around the world that happen at odd hours.

  19. Rule Number 1: No Porn on the WebServer by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless, of course, you work for a porn company. Then porn away.

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  20. Not a formal agreement you need to worry about by kalpol · · Score: 1

    A formal agreement is just window dressing. You need to make sure you have controls in place to properly approve access, periodically review access to ensure appropriateness, and remove it in a timely fashion for terminated employees.

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  21. Not SANS by FooGoo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Please don't use the SANS policy. As someone who performs risk assessments for a large company I am tired of vendors sending me SANS policies to review. They are old and outdated...some of them contain typos and it really tells me as an auditor that you really don't take security seriously because you can't take the time to tailor a document to your business needs.

    They are generic reference documents to use as a guide not as a final product. Even the guy who wrote the Remote Access policy for SANS thinks it's a joke.

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    1. Re:Not SANS by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Even the guy who wrote the Remote Access policy for SANS thinks it's a joke.
      [citation needed]

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    2. Re:Not SANS by awpoopy · · Score: 1

      Please don't use the SANS policy. As someone who performs risk assessments for a large company I am tired of vendors sending me SANS policies to review. They are old and outdated...some of them contain typos and it really tells me as an auditor that you really don't take security seriously because you can't take the time to tailor a document to your business needs.

      They are generic reference documents to use as a guide not as a final product. Even the guy who wrote the Remote Access policy for SANS thinks it's a joke.

      How about some links to the right ones then. Most people here don't give much weight to someone who says "Don't use THAT" and do not offer some better solution.

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    3. Re:Not SANS by FooGoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      A conversation with the author at an airport in Texas.

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    4. Re:Not SANS by FooGoo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The right solution is to get with your IT, Legal, and HR departments and draft a policy.

      Some things that I would expect to see in the policy would be: who is responsible for owning/maintaining/approving the policy, the criteria for allowing a user to use remote access (positions, responsibilities), the process for validating exisiting remote access users still require it (should be perfomed every 6 months minimum), any requirements imposed on remote access devices (antivirus, firewalls), penalties for non-compliance with the polcy, method of authentication (token, two-factor, whatever), and how the policy applies to third party service providers or contractors. Also, the key points of the policy should be included as an adendum in any contracts with third parties who may require remote access.

      Just a few ideas....your mileage may vary.

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  22. Company only PCs by s-twig · · Score: 0

    Our company restricts access to users that are using company notebooks to access the system. There is no way we would let something on our network that we don't manage.

  23. It's fairly simple... by GuyverDH · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ground rules.

    The computer, as provided by (name of employer) are the sole property of (name of employer).
    All use of this computer is subject to monitoring, logging and review by (name of employer)'s IT department.
    No modifications of any kind may be made to (name of employer)'s computer by the employee.

    VPN Rules..

    #1 Only computers provided by (name of employer) (with appropriate user restrictions, group policies, security software, etc...) are allowed to connect via VPN.

    #2 Only computers provided by (name of employer) may be connected to the network used for VPN access, at the time of VPN access.
      ie - home/personal computers must be disconnected before connecting the work computer - unless the work computer is on a completely separated / isolated network from the home / personal computers.

    #3 Any personal use of work computer will result in loss of VPN privelege on first offense, no exceptions.

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    1. Re:It's fairly simple... by hdparm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      #2 Only computers provided by (name of employer) may be connected to the network used for VPN access, at the time of VPN access.
          ie - home/personal computers must be disconnected before connecting the work computer

      Just how do you propose to enforce this policy?

    2. Re:It's fairly simple... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      So, if I go on a week long trip, I get to carry two laptops? That sucks (i've done it).

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    3. Re:It's fairly simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys are so unhip it's a wonder your bums don't fall off.

      With those restrictions (and others I've read in this article) you'll be lucky to get any productive work done at all, using the VPN.

    4. Re:It's fairly simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And more to the point ... why? A VPN exists to communicate over an untrusted network - why bother to disconnect machines from one segment of that network?

    5. Re:It's fairly simple... by kasmq1 · · Score: 1

      It's fairly simple, you make him a user on the laptop ( no bloody admin rights, everything should be encrypted on his laptop, he should be a admin or have special rights at work for him to be allowed to connect, only not in working hours) , you install a software(proprietary) that recognizes a PCMCIA card that is emitted to the user specifically( it's user acount&certificate. The card is pin protected. For him to connect he should be calling HD and request permission, gives the reason and specifies hours needed to work.

    6. Re:It's fairly simple... by hdparm · · Score: 1

      Well, if you're going to be that paranoid, just tell the guy to come to the office every day and forget the remote access.

    7. Re:It's fairly simple... by kasmq1 · · Score: 1

      Naa, a user should only have remote access on one condition: emergency action ( for high availability). If you're company can afford remote access just for fun and is not a decision based on critical resource availability, then this conversation is futile since : why in the hell would you want a policy for VPN if you allow people connecting anytime they want to?Remote access should only be used in case of dire need.

    8. Re:It's fairly simple... by YXdr · · Score: 1

      Remote access should only be used in case of dire need

      You have got to be kidding ... does your definition of dire need include "keeping me from quitting and going to work at a company not run by crazy paranoid people?"

    9. Re:It's fairly simple... by kasmq1 · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying be paranoid , I'm saying if you are not to some extent you may have to deal with only 1 of the 100 users who use the Remote Access Option going haywire and/or just misplacing some data about you're clients and then your company is in 4 feet of cow dung and everyone will be pointing at first the finger to your manager and then to you. No paranoid , just very very uptight will do it.

    10. Re:It's fairly simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #2 Only computers provided by (name of employer) may be connected to the network used for VPN access, at the time of VPN access.
          ie - home/personal computers must be disconnected before connecting the work computer - unless the work computer is on a completely separated / isolated network from the home / personal computers.

      So, you're saying that you don't trust the VPN at all. Not much point in a VPN, if you can't have other computers connected to the same network. And second, what about the rest of that network? You know, the *whole fricking internet*, that it is still connected to? The one that has lots of people just looking for something to attack, but is also a requirement for your VPN to be able to connect in the first place.

      And that was just when using the laptop at home. How about when I'm using it at a hotel on a business trip? Now your policy requires that all other hotel guests be disconnected from the hotel network, before I can use the VPN.

    11. Re:It's fairly simple... by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      And if your home computer is infected by the latest bot-net, then plugging the work computer into the same network just exposes it to more risk.

      In my case, I have 2 broadband connections, and two fully isolated internal networks, to my house, one for work, one for home use. The home use one has more bandwidth of course.

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    12. Re:It's fairly simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The easiest way would be pulling a hostname.domain when the user remotes in to a workstation/server.

      Just pulling hostname would allow someone the option of naming their computer the same as $company_owned_machine_name. Looking at machine name + domain name means you're not as likely to get tricked by this.

      Or have a list of $computername = $AssignedUserAcccount if the user logs in from a machine that isn't their's drop the connection, flag it, and email the IT Manager and department head. This would work for all but the IT staff I'm sure..

      just a few relatively easy options off the top of my head.....

    13. Re:It's fairly simple... by YXdr · · Score: 1

      But the two networks are not 'fully isolated'. Routing from one to the other may involve an ISP or two, but it can be done. So your work systems will still need to be protected from the risks that your home machine poses.

      The only risk factor you've affected is the bandwidth between the two systems - as security trade-offs go, that doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

      Now, if separating broadband connections also gives you some tax deductions and billing simplicity, then it might be worthwhile ....

    14. Re:It's fairly simple... by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      As the work network is on a separate connection (different provider / type), separate switches, separate wiring, then the only thing in common is the backbone carrier (the internet), which is isolated enough, as only traffic from the office's VPN server is allowed in, and the only destination allowed for outbound traffic from the work network is the office VPN router.

      Aside from going with a buried cable from my place to my office, it's as isolated as it gets.

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  24. FFIEC exam guide by Pagey123 · · Score: 1

    Take a minute to peruse through the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council IT Handbook at http://www.ffiec.gov/ffiecinfobase/html_pages/infosec_book_frame.htm There's a section on remote access. NOTE: this is for financial institutions, and the information therein may or may not be relevant to your particular organization. But there is some helpful information within.

  25. USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My workplace has an interesting method of providing employees with access to the on site materials from home. They use a USB key that holds the encryption key to access the logon servers remotely. Once logged in, users are tracked as they normally would be and all normal CODE OF CONDUCT rules apply. All of our Internet and e-mail traffic is monitored by security anyways, so there is little fear that an offsite user would abuse the privileged.

  26. hang on, the real answer is by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no, you dont have anything to add to the policy...

    youre a system administrator, not a lawyer, or a board director, or an hr manager, or anything else so you dont know what the company needs. you just know how to enforce their policy and keep systems patched and secure. nothing to see here, move along.

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    1. Re:hang on, the real answer is by noldrin · · Score: 1

      agreed, an agreement is not going to change a user's behavior, an agreement will help you to sue or prosecute someone who do things you don't want. So have a lawyer write it. Actually protecting your computers in a proactive manner involves implementing and testing security.

  27. Who benefits? by Anonymous+Cowhead · · Score: 1

    The policy should state that if the company wants employees to work from home, the company will provide a VPN, otherwise the employees will only work during work hours.

  28. Important: Please read, VPN Corporate Policy #3281 by theendlessnow · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. If you connect to the VPN and place your own machine's IP onto our network... we will kill you.

    Signing below indicates that you have read the policy in question and agree to adhere to it.

  29. What should your policy contain? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mainly your legal counsel's advice. If you can't afford that, don't bother - you couldn't afford to make your policy stick when it counted, either.

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  30. What about their work desktop policies? by cez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Provide VPN access, but limit them to only remote-desktopping into their current work desktop... then they are stuck with the restrictions, mappings, proxies, policies and resources they are usually allowed and have been signed off on. This is what we do to our "normal" vpn users. Also, Juniper Networks provides a nice sslvpn via web interface for those not able to handle a vpn client that this setup works wonders for...

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    1. Re:What about their work desktop policies? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How do you VPN through a web interface? A java applet full of exploits to hijack the networking drivers? Seriously I'm interested to know.

    2. Re:What about their work desktop policies? by inKubus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, they use a java app which utilizes the SSL capabilties in the browser to create a tunnel. Usuallly they do like a lightweight remote desktop type thing, or you can spawn something that redirects IP. Lastly, they usally have a link to install a package for a standard IPSEC VPN client. Cisco offers this in their ASA (formerly PIX) firewalls, Sonicwall does also. It's helpful for users logging in from a non-company computer as there's not much config/support required. Obviously your LAN needs to be secure also, in case they log in at an airport kiosk and forget to log out or something. With RADIUS and some auditing, you're almost as safe as in the office.

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    3. Re:What about their work desktop policies? by bwcbwc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In three words: don't do it. The only "safe" way to allow remote access is if you issue company laptops to all of the affected employees.

      Assuming your corporate network is locked down pretty tight, the biggest thing you have to ensure is the security of the computer that the worker is using to access the VPN. The agreement and technology policy should either a) limit VPN access to company-issued computers (i.e., laptops) or b) require the use of firewall, anti-virus, hard-disk encryption and other security software from a list of approved products.

      Once you open the access to non-company-owned computers, you expand your scope of security, legal and system administrative risks dramatically. For example, what happens when some PHB downloads a report from your customer/sales database to their personal laptop while on vacation in Bermuda, and someone steals the laptop? Or if there's a keylogger on the computer that they use to log into the VPN?

      Unless your corporate security software licenses allow deployment of the software on non-company owned computers, you are going to incur a per-seat cost over $150 (possibly up to $500?) just to install required security software, or you will be forcing your workers to bear those costs. And then your network infrastructure team needs an on-going process to monitor those non-company computers to make sure that they are kept up to date with security updates for each of the installed products. At that point, it's more practical to issue company-owned laptops and integrate them into your standard support/licensing/update architecture.

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    4. Re:What about their work desktop policies? by skibo · · Score: 1

      I use one of these devices that establish a SSL VPN connection. It does install some components onto your computer through IE (also I believe it requires IE). These devices also let you log into the interface and then can present a Terminal Services session to any computer inside the web page of the Firepass device.

  31. Completely ridiculous by JoeBuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What an incredibly totalitarian policy you propose. Someone does a web search to find directions to a restaurant on a work computer, and you can them? Glad I don't work from your company. In real life, a certain amount of personal use gets mixed in with the work use, and a successful company will judge its employees based on whether they get the job done.

    1. Re:Completely ridiculous by MyGirlFriendsBroken · · Score: 1

      And lets not forget that often remote access leads to some work time being mixed in with personal time. I would get a lot less done if I could't remote into work or clients in the evening to check on something which was being actioned in a different timezone.

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    2. Re:Completely ridiculous by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

      Agreed. However, with this wording, if the *personal use* gets to be too much, or of the *wrong kind*, then you have it covered in writing.

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  32. no vpn for personal computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...web-based solution is provided for personal computers. only company laptops are allowed to VPN.

  33. Key points by gweihir · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't have a formal policy, but I work with students on data that falls under privacy laws.

    What we tell them is:
    - Access from one computer only and that has to be specially secured
        -- Linux: Keep intsllation current, close all ports for incomming data, web-surfing only
              with current firefox or opera and limited to what is absolutely neccessary for their work.
        -- Windows: In addition a current anti-virus software. Discouraged.

    - We provide a computer for the VPN/SSH access for the thesis duration for the secured installation
        and even a second one for ordinary work, if they do not have one.

    - We warn them that loss of data would possibly be a criminal offense on their part (privacy laws)
        and that they need to be very careful.

    If you are really paranoid, gibve your users that second computer, or alternatively a CD-system created/modified by you for the remote access, and make using that mandatory. I think you will find that formal agreements carry little impact, as neglience is allways relative to the competence level of the person acting. Better to secure the access and not rely on legal stuff. If you require a specific installation for remote access, everybody not using it is doing something contrary to agreement regardless of competence level. You could even hardcode the VPN keys on a boot-CD (e.g. a modified Knoppix) to make it hard to circumvent this "remote Terminal" set-up.

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    1. Re:Key points by HikingStick · · Score: 1

      If you're working with students and fall under FERPA, you darn well better have a policy in place, and a way to verify that users understand and agree to follow the policy. Otherwise, the auditors will hang you from the highest tower and let the crows gnaw on your...

      Okay, get the picture?

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    2. Re:Key points by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The US is not the whole world. In fact it is only a minor part. One of its biggest problems is failure to see that.

      So, no FERPA here, whatever that may be.

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  34. Citrix by thepacketmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My company is so paranoid about unauthorized file transfers that they have discontinued VPN and only allow Citrix. The Citrix configuration is setup so that it will not permit saving to the local computer's hard drive. On one hand, it lessens some risks that could occur if your personal computer was connected by VPN. On the other hand, it makes for a lot of email traffic as people send themselves files so they can work on them outside of Citrix.

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    1. Re:Citrix by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Yow.

      Is it at least encrypted email?

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    2. Re:Citrix by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 1

      Haven't used Citrix for a while, but couldn't you still take screenshots of confidential stuff?

      It wouldn't be much good for long stuff like source code, but you could snarf memos, spreadsheets, incriminating email, etc.

    3. Re:Citrix by smellotron · · Score: 1

      Haven't used Citrix for a while, but couldn't you still take screenshots of confidential stuff?

      Nothing beats a camera for screenshots. Saying "Citrix doesn't allow file downloads" might have been worthwhile if hexdumps and OCR technology didn't exist.

  35. Orion Blastar's VPN from Home Policy by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    #1 Keep the VPN use work related. Follow the same network policies as if in the workplace.

    #2 Scan the home PC on a regular basis for malware. Last thing the company needs is trade secrets, password and login info, and email stolen by some hacker who happened to get a key logger trojan on the Home PC, and then sell them to the higher bidder or steal corporate bank and credit card accounts. That means keeping your Antivirus programs updated every day and scan for viruses at least three times a week.

    #3 You are on the honor system, Work can only monitor your activities on the VPN network, but not your Home PC and the Internet being used by your home PC. Yes it is alright to check your local email on your home computer, but use common sense and don't spend a lot of time doing personal things on your home computer and home Internet connection. We'll notice it when the VPN activity stops for more than 15 minutes, and your work productivity drops on the VPN. Yes you can take two 15 minute breaks and lunch hour or half hour, but we'll really notice it when you do nothing on the VPN for hours. Either you are goofing off and doing personal things, or the connection is dead, but we can tell by pinging your home computer to test if the connection is dead and deduce your wasting time.

    #4 Keep all company email professional. Make effective use of company email and web sites and software. Don't use them and act like you do when you are posting Anonymous trolls on the Internet or your Myspace page.

    #5 Do not access other user's accounts unless you are given permission by management for troubleshooting something or testing out software. We know that your profile might not have the same issues as a coworker, but only IT staff should be loging in as other employee's accounts only for testing purposes. Do not use an alias either on the VPN or create a fake account via a hack, but use the account and account name assigned to you.

    #6 Do not save work data on your personal hard drive, instead store it on a server drive.

    #7 Do not run cracking and/or hacking tools on the VPN, do not do any denial of service attacks over the VPN.

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    1. Re:Orion Blastar's VPN from Home Policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #1 The VPN *is* work related. You're connected to the corporate network, you will be held to the same standards as if you are at your desk. Do not allow split tunneling.

      #2 Only company supplied & managed systems will use the VPN. No home systems.

      #3 No honor system. Once you are connected to the company VPN, all traffic goes through the VPN. (see #1)

      #6 Use hard drive encryption in additon to #2.

      The rest - See #1

  36. Don't forget legal issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You are thinking about the practical and security aspects, which is good and necessary. There are also very real legal issues to consider. The export restrictions pertaining to the remote location in question are one obvious example. Another biggie is the Fair Labor Standards Act. Be aware of your obligations here or you could find yourself in big trouble. I never give anyone VPN access unless it is approved by their direct supervisor, and I make sure that the supervisor is aware of their responsibility to comply with the FLSA.

  37. You can use my account by itamblyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    The machines I login to cat the policy at the beginning of every session. I'll just send you my username and password and then you can read it for yourself.

  38. VPN doesn't cut it anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We just implemented a policy on remote usage since we basically only allowed company laptops and pda's to access remotely and even then it was an external firewalled connection.

    now we are going to give out custom LiveCD's with VPN running IPSec. That way keyloggers, trojan, etc, can only be download and run in session, simple as power off and gone again.

    Plus boot up password, login password and vpn info just to connect. Also trying out a usb token key like RSA but a broker that does similar thing, runs a virtual environment and virtual keyboard to bypass keyloggers or screencapture. Never know what crap is on home PC's or laptops, even so called business ones!

    The policy is simple, the IPsec key is with the VPNclient, users cannot see it. So without it they cannot just copy the data and use vpn on another machine. Without it, no vpn remotely.

  39. No home computers.. EVER by cryogenix · · Score: 1

    Corporate laptops only. These are the same laptops they use at their desk which are policy controlled, and kept updated and have current antivirus etc. Every home computer ever brought in to me to be looked at by an employee has been a virus/spyware ridden infestation. There are no exceptions to the rules allowed or the CXO's will be the first to break them.

    1. Re:No home computers.. EVER by Max_W · · Score: 1

      If an employee's home computer is a virus/spyware ridden infestation, it means that he/she is not a part of right digital culture. Such an employee will find a way to do a harm to the company, not matter how hard you try to prevent.

      Unfortunately it is a common situation. Look at how a computer specialist is shown in the popular show "Prison Break", an Asian guy with laptop. He is shown like a freak, a traitor, a clown. But real guys understand nothing in computer technology and proud of it. Or how McCain was proud of not using computers and Internet.

      I even heard as the CEO of a large software company said in an interview that he asked his son: "Did you ever receive an important for your life meassage via e-mail?"

      Unbelievable. In a world driven by computers?!?

      I would say:
      1) training and certification in basic computer security for any VPN user. A certification with about 30 - 40% of failure rate.
      2) Compulsory usage of security cable for laptop. Correct usage should be included in training too.
      3) In addition to OS password laptop must be protected by a BIOS password.

      If we, say, release a monkey into an empty apartment it can do a damage no matter how we secure an apartment. The same way an untrained unaware employee will do damage in a complex network. The problem is that many leaders of industries are such untrained and unaware employees.

      And when a boss shows a bad example others follow.

      The change, the shift of culture is needed for such a cardinal step as introducing high speed VPNs and remote working places. The leader of a company should be the leader in computer technologies too. Showing a good example, organizing training. The time of retrograde "McCains" is over.

  40. Re:Policies don't solve problems. people solve the by cryogenix · · Score: 1

    Management is usually the first to break these rules, and in my experience, NOTHING happens to others that then break them. That's why you don't make exceptions for management either. First it will be them, and then someone who works directly for them with pull etc..

  41. Simple little equation by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

    Gatekeepers are not supposed to be nice.

    More beer == more access
    Evaluated weekly.

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  42. Hanger Orthopedic by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    Based in Bethesda MD. They have many satellite offices as well as many individuals who telecommute some or all of the time. Since they deal with health care data they have to conform to HIPAA standards. They rely on their secure remote access system being available as much as possible. See if their IT department can share its policy statement.

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  43. More paperwork... by nilbog · · Score: 1

    If you don't know what they should contain, then why are you making them?

    "Hey guys, we don't have enough pointless paperwork. Any ideas on new things we could get people to sign?"

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  44. HIPAA by GlL · · Score: 1

    If you deal with any kind of personal medical information, you have to be HIPAA compliant as well, and their requirements are your requirements.
    For those requirements go here http://www.cms.hhs.gov/EducationMaterials/Downloads/SecurityStandardsTechnicalSafeguards.pdf

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  45. An agreement? by mweather · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any security policy that relies on employees voluntarily keeping to an agreement is doomed to fail. Either make it impossible to access in any way other than intended, or don't do it.

    1. Re:An agreement? by Max_W · · Score: 1

      Relying only on technical solution without involving employee responsibility and training will fail. It's like, say, giving soldiers the a body armor, helmet, protection glasses, etc. but not providing them with training, explanation of a cause, of tactics, responsibilities, etc.

      Security and access tools are just tools. Problems are not solved buy tools, problems are solved by motivated cooperative humans who are using tools willingly and correctly. Understanding what they are doing and why.

      It's an easy way for an IT guy: limit this, limit that, and go on playing the last Call of Duty for the rest of the shift. Instead one should find a way to cooperate with colleagues, providing them with secure VPN tools and explaining them how to use them right.

    2. Re:An agreement? by mweather · · Score: 1

      Relying only on technical solution without involving employee responsibility and training will fail. It's like, say, giving soldiers the a body armor, helmet, protection glasses, etc. but not providing them with training, explanation of a cause, of tactics, responsibilities, etc.

      Not if it's impossible for them to use that equipment in any way other than the way you intended.

      Instead one should find a way to cooperate with colleagues, providing them with secure VPN tools and explaining them how to use them right.

      Why bother when you make it impossible to use them wrong?

    3. Re:An agreement? by Max_W · · Score: 1

      These guys http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/13/1659214 harmed their companies and households via safe&secure IT channels just by sending money to a Nigeria scams.

      They just were not trained and instructed properly.

      I can understand that a housewife did it. But a bit lower in the thread there is about the same story of an university professor, who sent millions to a Nigeria bank scam.

      Obviously IT of this university were sitting in an ivory tower securing, limiting, blocking network features for everyone, even for those who know how to use them safely. But they did no work with the major security hole - weak employees.

      As I said: one can put on fat untrained soldiers better and better body armor, helmets, bulletproofed glasses, celvar protective gloves, but since they are untrained they are the easy target even for a child with an air gun.

  46. I have a simple template... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Does anyone out there have any suggestions as to what this policy/agreement should contain?"

    Easy, one line should do it: "Don't be a dick."

  47. Re:Don't use 'user' policies - use 'system' polici by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    Bleh. You sound like the kind of admin I love to hate. Those policies are ludicrously restrictive. There's no point in even bothering in remote access if you're gonna cripple it like that.

    I access my company's SVN repo from home by connecting to it using SSH and port forwarding. It works fine. You're too paranoid.

  48. Re:Important: Please read, VPN Corporate Policy #3 by xtracto · · Score: 1

    1. If you connect to the VPN and place your own machine's IP onto our network.

    Does that refer to Intelectual Property (e.g. pr0n)or an address??

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  49. Re:Important: Please read, VPN Corporate Policy #3 by laejoh · · Score: 0

    Ah, good old ice, it's good to see you once more :)

  50. Secure VPN by halhub · · Score: 1

    Using Ironkey, a secure USB device and MokaFive will give any company a level of security second to none. Ironkey is the most secure USB memory stick on the market. To gain access to the contents of an Ironkey the user must enter the password created for that device. It allows company admins to create security policies on what applications can run on their 1,2,4,8 gig memory sticks. With their new SilverBullet functionality if a key is lost/stolen the admin can remotely kill the memory stick the next time is connects to the internet. What happends if the user never connects to the internet again... well thats a policy item which can be set which requires the user to connect to the internet after some number of times of usage of the USB stick self destructs. MokaFive is a virtual desktop solution which uses VMwares virtual desktop to create "LivePCs". I use my 8 gig stick to run a Windows 2003 Small Business Server. The virtual desktops can be run on an Apple, Windows or Linux system. Changes to the virtual machine by company admins update the users LivePC automatically. One of the features of MokaFive is the ability for the LivePC to automatically connect via a VPN without the user knowing the server IP, ID or password. These all get set by the MokaFive administrator. I set this up for a major electronics company for use by their sales people around the world.

  51. A properly secured wireless network by carmaa · · Score: 1

    I would recommend that your company actually provides securely configured wifi routers to its employees so that you don't risk that someone hijacks the private network and plays out a full Man-in-the-Middle attack.

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  52. Exactly. Effective communication... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excellent point. Too many people forget that effective communication includes actual message reception and their understanding of the message, not just the delivery.

    In the end, life in IT is better if the users understand policies, procedures, etc. and thus can try to follow them (though nothing is guaranteed). Nothing wrong with creative approaches to making this happen.

    And while some enjoy the vengeance, being able to hang personnel out to dry does nothing to alleviate the mess that still needs cleaned up.

  53. Virtual Machines by Danathar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the things that really scare IT shops about Remote access is the fact that they really can't control the systems at home (if they are not systems given to take home).

    Since computers are pretty fast and Virtual Machine technology is pretty far along, try a custom VM image using Vmware, parallels, virtualbox, etc and let users do work within that environment on their home systems.

  54. Re:Don't use 'user' policies - use 'system' polici by Daimanta · · Score: 1

    "# LOG ! LOG ! LOG ! I find everything should be logged! Especially traffic going in/out the local network. Have a good log retention policy."

    You will drown yourself in logs. The more you log, the more bad apples get through because you are flooded with data that is mostly useless.

    "# ENFORCE strong passwords and change 'em when you feel fit."

    If you change passwords, people will need to remember new ones. They won't and will write it down on a post-it. And then they will stick the post-it on the monitor for all to see.

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  55. The Google Doctrine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about keeping it simple with "don't be evil"?

  56. Take a look at NIST SP800-114 by brasscount · · Score: 1

    NIST SP800-114 provides a great guideline for teleworkers and remote access. Definitely a must read for providing a resource to your employees. http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-114/SP800-114.pdf

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  57. Wifi Security by the_maplebar · · Score: 1

    Part of the telecommuting rules for my work stipulates the wifi security measure required when connecting from home.

    1) WPA secured connection
    2) Disable SSID broadcast
    3) Enable MAC filtering

    A new one I would add after the WPA crack, disable TKIP and only use AES encryption.

    Before I started working from home I actually had left my wifi open for neighbors.

    1. Re:Wifi Security by sco_robinso · · Score: 1

      Why would you specify people use SSID masking and MAC filtering from home? Just an FYI, hiding an SSID and turning on MAC filtering is literally useless. Useless. Virtually any sniffing or snorting program out there (even the windows ones) can easily detect SSIDs and MAC addresses, which can obviously be easily spoofed. The only real thing hiding an SSID actually does is prevents the network from showing up in Windows - big deal. For end users, this just adds inconvenience without adding any security. For would be crackers, only type of person this stops is the type that will instantly be turned away by WPA anyway. It's a screen door and a lawn sign in front of fort-knox.

      No offense, but it's catch-22 security, and it's a waste of everyone's time, even yours.

    2. Re:Wifi Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Part of the telecommuting rules for my work stipulates the wifi security measure required when connecting from home.

      1) WPA secured connection 2) Disable SSID broadcast 3) Enable MAC filtering

      A new one I would add after the WPA crack, disable TKIP and only use AES encryption.

      Before I started working from home I actually had left my wifi open for neighbors.

      We all know the WPA crack is out there so I'm not gonna mention that. Disable SSID Broadcast is essentially nothing more than prettiness, anyone with google can figure out how to access that, the same goes with mac filtering, its about as useful as tits on a bull.

      Our wireless policy states, "Protect your wireless with WEP, WPA, WPA2, any of these will do. Change the default password. Make sure you connect your corporate laptop to the network weekly." You'd think the last one is a given, but we constantly find machines that have dropped out of our management app because they haven't been connected for more than 30 days

    3. Re:Wifi Security by sco_robinso · · Score: 1

      For the record, that WPA 'crack' isn't all it's cracked up to be (no pun intended). It's very ingenious, taking advantage of several protocols' vulnerabilities, but it's pretty limited. It's not as though it lets you out right snoop the end to end traffic. From the looks of it, it only takes advantage of a few short, predictable packet transmissions and allows spoofing or injection of certain packets if certain protocols are in use on the network (i.e. .1Q). Pretty much a non-event for home-users. Business can easily circumvent.

    4. Re:Wifi Security by Max_W · · Score: 1

      Any security is broken by an invested time. I can brake any safe with a saw and sledgehammer. It just takes time.

    5. Re:Wifi Security by sco_robinso · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right. AES just takes a bit of time, too. Let's see, with the world's top 1000 supercomputers at your perminant, personal disposal, you could easily crack a 128bit AES key in oh... only a couple thousand-quadrillion years (literally). And that's if you get lucky.

      Let's be realistic here, it would be easier to just break into the house and steal the computer.

  58. inside to out by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    If you go the route whereby you issue everyone with a laptop and install a VPN client on the laptop, then I would also prevent the use of the VPN client when the user is in the office to call outward.

    I would not want to think of my office network being bridged to another LAN over a tunnel created from the inside. It's especially fun to bash Microsoft here, but windows PCs will find gaps in the network and merrily bond with anything it can connect to by any method. It's like having a swinger installed on your PC.

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  59. Important: Please read, VPN Corporate Policy #3280 by theendlessnow · · Score: 1

    1. VPN connections are not to be used for transmission of data deemed insecure by our Global Security department. This includes protocols such as: telnet, pop, smtp, ssh, rsync, IM, http, https, pops, spop, ftp, tftp, netbios, smb, dns, ntp, vnc, rdp.

    2. VPN connections should not utilize any ports from 0-1023. Communication on these ports if forbidden.

    3. VPN connections should not use dynamic ports in the 49152-65535 range. These confuse our IDS system.

    4. VPN connections are allowed on approved registered ports in the 1024-49151 range as long as they do no include any of the protocols listed in #1. The company reserves the rights to ports 1024-20056, 30022-40085, 19872-28029, 31082-62892, 25010-30023, and 50000-65534. The rest may be used by the user for all of your communication needs.

    Note: We have made it easy to request a new port registration. First VPN into the corporate network then either send an email to newport@company.com with the requested port in the subject line and justification in the message part, or use our new secure web interface off the company portal. Just click on the Easy to to Business With section and then click on New Port.

  60. Braindead lock-down policies by ino64 · · Score: 1

    At our place (consutling shop, mostly laptops) we used to have a common "lock-down" policy in place. Read: Don't install anything not approved. If you happen to enjoy it you are breaking the rules. Unfortunatly due to the natur of our business this is counter-productive. No choice - nothings gets done. Projects/clients have requirements that are simply ignored by central IT. So there was a constant bending of the rules. It also falls short of malware. Nobody installs "evil software" on purpose. And virus scanners are not a viable prtection against root-kits. We have turned this upside down. You can use whatever. Macs PCs. You can use whatever software. BUT you have to make sure that some best practices are being followed. Of course you have to run firewall and that (we provide these). You have to follow US-CERT alerts (everyone gets those through mail). Install all patches that are required for _your_ kit. If in doubt, talk to central IT. If an employee is willing to "sign" this he/she get's almost card blanche. Otherwise you will be stuck with office and Solitaire. Guess what people go for. Grain of salt: All the people that are allowed to join this program are tech consultants.

  61. Standard issue at my work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work at a web development company and for us to access our production servers we need to VPN to our colocation. To get VPN access we are required to read a 100 page word document and sign a sheet of paper stating that we agree to the terms. This has to be done each year as the terms get updated. Most of the document contains clauses to protect the company by enforcing strong passwords, denying malicious behaviour, doing stupid stuff, etc.. We do this because it makes our clients feel safe and secure, which in turn gets us more business.

  62. Re:Policies don't solve problems. people solve the by starfishsystems · · Score: 1

    I think you're confusing policy with mechanism.

    A security policy describes intent. It might say for example that certain staff are allowed to perform certain operations on certain information and facilities, that contractors are allowed another set of operations on more restricted information. And likely there will be a contractual agreement which refers to this policy and identifies the consequences of noncompliance. To answer your question, this says what management is going to do if someone breaks policy.

    Then there's mechanism. This is the blueprint for all of the procedures and artifacts which directly or indirectly serve to implement said policy. Likely it's not a failing of policy but of mechanism if trade secrets are exposed on a public web server, for example, though on the other hand it's true that many sites have no formal security policy at all, and thus have no tenable position if an exploit should take place due to ineffective mechanism. The mechanism only exists to implement a given policy.

    Now, if you look closely, you'll see that there is a missing piece in this whole equation. We have security policy and mechanism. We have a contract which binds individuals to abide by the policy. Ordinarily such a contract contains reciprocal clauses which identify the rights and responsibilities of both parties. But how many of these contracts, do you suppose, spell out what the employer will do to protect the employee from accidental access to inappropriate materials? In all of the complexity around information security, this piece is often overlooked, and though it may be an innocent oversight, it leaves the employee in a very vulnerable position.

    I was once in a situation where an employer required me to take a corporate laptop home with me every night. The nature of my work meant that said laptop was full of proprietary software and data. The employer provided no disk encryption, no locking or tamperproofing mechanisms, nothing. I think that a lot of employees would just go along with the situation and take their chances. I don't recommend this. At the very least, get legal advice in reviewing your employment contract.

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  63. Consider separate policies for techs and non-techs by chkn0 · · Score: 1

    At my previous workplace, initially, we didn't have an official remote access policy. Development and IT just ssh'd in as necessary to keep the company running. Development and IT were 90% GNU/Linux. Then, one day, the Finance department (100% Microsoft) decided that remote acces would be neat. The talked to legal and presumably to some software vendor, and suddenly we had a remote access policy that mandated the use of a specific, proprietary, expensive, underpowered Microsoft-Windows-only VPN application. Dev/IT's complaints fell on deaf ears (this, arguably, was the real problem here) -- we were In Violation of the Official Policy, so obviously we were in the wrong. We continued to violate the policy to keep the company running as necessary.

    There was probably some value in providing a hand-holding, easy-for-the-user remote access option. Other comments have suggested providing company laptops already set up and ready to go. Whatever you choose, please don't tie the hands of your technical people. You will make their jobs harder, reduce their productivity, and drive them out of your company.

  64. Regarding databases by Douglas+Goodall · · Score: 1

    I think one common factor in recent news articles about loss of data has been large databases on notebook computers. One of the features of mainframes were that you could access the database, but you couldn't grab the whole thing. With current Internet speeds, you can steal a large database in minutes. I think remote policies should allow transactional access but not raw access to datafiles containing personal data. This would minimize the loss of data. It is always amazing to hear 200,000 people's accounts were compromised when a notebook was misplaced. Also for development people, I like to keep a few key source files that don't change much on a USB key and the rest on line, so if the on-line parts are stolen by strangers, they don't get enough to build the software. It is just too easy to grab everything these days. Technology makes it possible, but that doesn;t mean it's wise.

  65. Consider also moving to the web by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

    Depending on the nature of your business, some "remote access" requirements can be satisfied instead by moving to something like Google Apps. You can do e-mail, and basic documents and spreadsheets over the web from anywhere.

  66. Pr0n and your VPN by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    The funniest thing about all these VPN policies is the no-pr0n part. (1) Everyone knows that The Internet is fo Pr0n and (2) Everyone knows that the pr0n is faster when surfed directly, the VPN isn't going to make things faster, its going to make things slower.

    If you have an employee who uses the VPN so fetch pr0n you should fire them for being _stupid_ not for surfing pr0n per say.

    Unless, of course, it's kiddie pr0n, in which case you should probably keep them on for knowing how to use a VPN for anonymizing their activities... uh... wait... that _can't_ be right...

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  67. Re:Important: Please read, VPN Corporate Policy #3 by Eristone · · Score: 1

    Excellent! So I can use IPX/SPX for my transport and go from there to my Citrix box using the ica protocol. Not a problem and I'm happy to comply with the VPN policy.