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Christmas Tree Made From 70 SCSI Hard Drives

Trigger writes "At our work we were decomissioning six old HP/Compaq servers to clear up space for new servers and, naturally, each server had a fairly large raid array. Instead of formatting every hard drive (would have taken weeks performing a DoD level wipe) and disposing them all together with the servers, I decided to disassemble the hard drives and recycle them into something neat. With a lot (a lot) of patience, I made this shiny Xmas tree. In total there are around 70 old SCSI hard drives, between 9gb and 18gb in size each. They were nice and chunky, oldschool style. There were quite a few different hard drive models, which is good because they each had different bits which I could use. The Xmas tree is made with parts from hard drives only except for one nut which I had to purchase for $0.39." It's good to see that this guy has plenty to do at work.

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  1. Had to - by Colourspace · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fir post!

    1. Re:Had to - by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      I'd like one for myself. It would spruce my apartment up.

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    2. Re:Had to - by treeves · · Score: 1

      Could be. Is that his common name, while his official name is Pseudotsuga menziesii?

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    3. Re:Had to - by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      I thought Douglas Fir was the name of one of my college Physics instructors...

      No, the average college professor just has a wooden personality.

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  2. I'd really be impressed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...if he had made 2 trees to run in RAID 0.

    1. Re:I'd really be impressed... by elwinc · · Score: 1

      RAID 0 - isn't that also called "Just a Bunch of Disks"? I really think the guy implemented JBOD!

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    2. Re:I'd really be impressed... by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      Nope, RAID 0 is striping the data evenly across at least 2 disks. JBOD is its own thing.

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    3. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      RAID 0 is Mirrored JBOD is not.

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    4. Re:I'd really be impressed... by theemadnes · · Score: 5, Funny

      RAID 0? For Christmas trees? Sure, it'd be mighty impressive, but if only one of the trees goes down, you've ruined Christmas for everyone.

    5. Re:I'd really be impressed... by tabrisnet · · Score: 1

      RAID0 is striped, and has _zero_ redundancy. RAID1 is mirrored.

      It also can be made to act as if striped for reads, but not for writes (you can interleave the reads across the discs, plus or minus seeks). Of course, RAID0 has more capacity than RAID1 for the same number of discs, but RAID1 isn't about capacity as much as it is for reliability.

    6. Re:I'd really be impressed... by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      In this case, it would be Just a Branch of Disks.

    7. Re:I'd really be impressed... by shadow349 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's amazing how little people know about ....

      Welcome to Slashdot.

    8. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how little people know about rectal surgery...

      just sayin... to each their own.

    9. Re:I'd really be impressed... by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Funny

      Little people usually know more about PCs than their parents.

    10. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's amazing how little people know about rectal surgery...

      Hey! It's great to see another Slashdotter with the same hobby as mine!

      So, what are your views on anterior modifications of the Delorme procedure, which requires less operative dissection, I personally think it can be performed with results nearly equivalent to those of the established Delorme procedure in the treatment of rectal outlet obstruction secondary to internal intussusception with or without rectocele.

      Or do you disagree?

    11. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Raid 0 is for ants.

      Raid 1 is for cockroaches.

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    12. Re:I'd really be impressed... by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where is the "-1 too much information" mod?!?

    13. Re:I'd really be impressed... by santiagoanders · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People with dwarfism aren't special in this regard. I think this is generally true of all people.

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    14. Re:I'd really be impressed... by santiagoanders · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suppose Raid 0+1 kills both ants and cockroaches.
      What is Raid 5 for?

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    15. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Atti+K. · · Score: 1
      You know what rectal surgery brings to my mind? Goa...

      Uh, never mind.

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    16. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      What is Raid 5 for?

      Elephants. In the walls.

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    17. Re:I'd really be impressed... by dcsmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suppose Raid 0+1 kills both ants and cockroaches. What is Raid 5 for?

      Franz Kafka

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    18. Re:I'd really be impressed... by gwbennett · · Score: 1, Funny

      Better yet, a Beowolf forest of these...

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    19. Re:I'd really be impressed... by gd2shoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Raid 0
      02468
      13579

      Raid 1
      01234
      01234

      JBOD
      01234
      56789

      Different problems; different solutions.

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    20. Re:I'd really be impressed... by richardkelleher · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it actually be JBODB (Just a Bunch of Disk Bits!)

    21. Re:I'd really be impressed... by machine321 · · Score: 1

      With de-duplication, I can make a Christmas tree out of one platter.

    22. Re:I'd really be impressed... by severoon · · Score: 1

      huhuhuhuhuh...your post is about butts.

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    23. Re:I'd really be impressed... by suso · · Score: 1

      Its also amazing how many people who use RAID think that RAID-0 is a good idea. Your chances of a array failure are 2^n times greater than with 1 disk where n is the number of disks in the array.

    24. Re:I'd really be impressed... by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a friend who is a nurse. The most advanced procedure she can perform in this area is "digital extraction of fecal impaction."

      No, I'm not making that up. And yes, I mean digital in the "base 10" sense!

    25. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Plekto · · Score: 1

      Raid 1 is for cockroaches.

      Don't underestimate them... They seem to survive almost anything.

      Actually, it looks like something you'd see in Futurama. Complete with the X on top. Since X-Mas is evil in the future, of course it's made out of bits of robot "brains".

    26. Re:I'd really be impressed... by ZygnuX · · Score: 1

      Its also amazing how many people who use RAID think that RAID-0 is a good idea. Your chances of a array failure are 2^n times greater than with 1 disk where n is the number of disks in the array.

      Shouldn't that be 2^(n-1) ? Its actually 2^n compared to RAID 1

    27. Re:I'd really be impressed... by waferbuster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, a comparative study conducted between October 1997 and May 2001 agrees that overall results for the two procedures are roughly equivalent, so you're in good company.

      Anterior Modification of Delorme Procedure Provides Equivalent Results to Delorme Procedure in Treatment of Rectal Outlet Obstruction . Current Surgery , Volume 62 , Issue 6 , Pages 609 - 612 A . Dippolito , S . Esser , J . Reed III

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    28. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Snaller · · Score: 1

      That's gotta be a shit hobby.

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    29. Re:I'd really be impressed... by xouumalperxe · · Score: 1

      Minor addition: JBOD can be

      01234
      567

      or

      0123
      456789

      Since it's spanning "just a bunch of disks", it can be literally "just a bunch of disks", without the matched size that RAID requires.

    30. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Ssherby · · Score: 1

      Where is the "-1 too much information" mod?!?

      You have to use "+20 Informative" to get the TMI indication.

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    31. Re:I'd really be impressed... by gosand · · Score: 1

      Best disguised goatse post ever.

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    32. Re:I'd really be impressed... by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      Making an assertion and being wrong is not the same as keeping quiet when you know nothing.

    33. Re:I'd really be impressed... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You know, if we'd just count in base 6, we could count to 35 on our fingers.

      Or we could count in binary, and we'd be able to count to 1,023 – but then certain numbers would be "bad"...

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    34. Re:I'd really be impressed... by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 1

      "But teacher, I was just trying to tell you the answer is 132!"

      If you bend each finger at the first knuckle, you can have three positions for each finger, allowing you to count to 59,048 in base 3.

      You could add in other body parts too, each of them also a base 3 digit. Each wrist straight, bent in, or bent out. Elbow extended, at 90 degrees, or fully bent. Same for each knee. Foot straight, pointed inward, or pointed outward. Eyes open, left closed, or right closed. Neck straight, bent left, or bent right. Shoulders down, left shoulder raised, or right shoulder raised. Back straight, arched back, or hunched forward. Hips straight, twisted left, or twisted right.

      Combined with the fingers that gives you 23 base 3 "digits", allowing your body to count to 94,143,178,826.

    35. Re:I'd really be impressed... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      The real question is: What number does the "YMCA" song represent?

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    36. Re:I'd really be impressed... by thexile · · Score: 1

      Kills Vista.

  3. Ouch, my eyes! by ZirbMonkey · · Score: 1

    It burns!

    Send it back to the depths of Hell whence it came!

    1. Re:Ouch, my eyes! by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 1

      No, send it back to Idle.

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    2. Re:Ouch, my eyes! by BorgAssimilator · · Score: 1

      Same thing?

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  4. What are the plans after the tree is dismanteled by raymansean · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How did we go from DOD erasure to removing the platters to make a tree? The data could still be recovered in its current tree state!

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  5. wrong picture? by Bob-taro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TFA shows a "tree" made of disk platters -- all shiny silver, no green. What's with the generic green xmas tree pic in the summary? Is that one of those "category" images?

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    1. Re:wrong picture? by trainman · · Score: 1

      Yes, because a picture of a Christmas tree is such a commonly used category photo on slashdot....

    2. Re:wrong picture? by calzones · · Score: 1

      looks like it came from a "very special episode of lost in space celebrates christmas a million miles from home"

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    3. Re:wrong picture? by Beorytis · · Score: 1

      A TinEye image search suggests the summary picture came from the Hammacher Schlemmer catalog.

    4. Re:wrong picture? by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      The picture is not even a tree, it is some kind of Christmas bush, probably made of plastic, and very common in large parts of North America.

  6. Captain Obvious says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Posted picture is not the SCSI tree, you actually have to RTFA to see it

    1. Re:Captain Obvious says: by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well I would ... but it's completely slashdotted.

      Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to put the proper pic instead of that green thing.

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    2. Re:Captain Obvious says: by Zantetsuken · · Score: 1

      but then nobody would visit their site and give them ad revenue, would they?

    3. Re:Captain Obvious says: by MarkRose · · Score: 2, Funny

      Remember kids, when you have the opportunity to make a funny about SCSI, you have to LUNge at it.

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    4. Re:Captain Obvious says: by JodiJodiJodi · · Score: 1

      The site is run under the radar with an explict policy of no ads. Hopefully the suits won't notice the small slashdot blip on their traffic bill...

    5. Re:Captain Obvious says: by againjj · · Score: 3, Informative
    6. Re:Captain Obvious says: by PHPNerd · · Score: 1

      How sad. I got all excited when I saw that Christmas tree pic in the actual post, like he'd somehow managed to make it look like a real freaking tree. The actual picture is much less exciting. Ok, strike that, depressing.

      Hard drive xmas tree man, you lose an internet. Your tree sucks.

  7. This thread is useless without pics.... by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be nice if the picture attached to the story showed the actual tree. The site is barely loading....

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    1. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by torgis · · Score: 1

      Yep it's down. Loading for 5 minutes and still nothing.

    2. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by whoisrich · · Score: 5, Informative

      Found the link to the actual picture via another site: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7811/tree14zq5.jpg

    3. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      The "tree" also rotates appa

    4. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Informative

      Stupid Ajax. Curse it!

      and the link I was trying to post: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Pam5qLu8CwY

    5. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by MadEmperor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks for posting. If that's the real deal, I'm not impressed. It's not even straight! Maybe he should have picked up some AOL Discs to make it full size.

    6. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by teslar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So you build something vaguely cone-shaped and because it's December, it gains +1 Christmassy? I mean, it's a bunch of platters stacked onto each other. I actually think it's pretty cool (especially the bottom part - gotta love the semi-chaotic shinyness. Not so much a fan of the top or the fact that it isn't exactly straight), but I wouldn't call it a Christmas tree.

      In fact, if you scrape the Christmas idea, redesign the top and add more blue LEDs into the thing, you could just end up with a nifty piece of art that's for life, not just for Chrstmas ;)

    7. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      All cone-shaped things gain +1 Christmassy in December. Didn't you know that?

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    8. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The guy could have at least used some of the drive spindle motors to make it spin on its own.

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    9. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's good to know!

      Four upmods please?

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    10. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by saibot834 · · Score: 2, Informative
    11. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by Nabeel_co · · Score: 1

      Hahaha! That was hilarious, my reaction was much the same as yours.

    12. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by Craig+Davison · · Score: 1

      Coral cache has it: http://www.nzgames.com.nyud.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81672

      Pretty fast mirror, actually.

    13. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by machine321 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's not even straight!

      Yeah, that is a gay Christmas tree.

    14. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by machine321 · · Score: 1

      Cool, Christmas at 15k RPM.

    15. Re:This thread is useless without pics.... by David+Nabbit · · Score: 1

      I was going to comment that AOL disks might be collectors items someday. Apparently some people think they already are.

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  8. I miss these days by COMON$ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When people made creative things out of old equipment. Haven't seen a good set of Christmas ornaments or bling from outdated equipment for a while. Years ago it was everywhere. Burnt platters, melted CDs, old tape tinsel....ahhh geekmas.

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    1. Re:I miss these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ...IBM card wreaths

    2. Re:I miss these days by againjj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I loved this one: http://www.vimeo.com/1109226
      Though, seconds 20 to 60 seem pretty pointless.

  9. Slashdotted already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Merry Christmas Hosting Provider_01

  10. Yes, but is it Linux? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Informative

    With Linux as an OS for your tree, you could make the LED status lights blink in time with a Christmas song you had stored on one of the drives ...

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    1. Re:Yes, but is it Linux? by DarKnyht · · Score: 1

      Yes, but with Windows and an internet connection he could find help in getting his tree to stand erect.

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    2. Re:Yes, but is it Linux? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      True, but he'd probably catch a virus from it ...

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    3. Re:Yes, but is it Linux? by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah ?

      Well with Windows you could have all of the LEDs glowing blue without any additional programming or anything.

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    4. Re:Yes, but is it Linux? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Ah, the Blue LED blink of death ...

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  11. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only if you have root access.

  12. Idle by owlnation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another samzenpus classic article.

    1. samzenpus seems not to know where the Idle section is.
    2. Irrelevant photo in summary.
    3. Slashdotted site for TFA, rendering article completely pointless.

    Every time it's the same. Is there a way to filter stories to cut out ones from individual editors? Samzenpus' contributions are invariably poor. Did he used to work for Digg?

    1. Re:Idle by Brian+Boitano · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes there is, maybe you should use it.

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    2. Re:Idle by wcrowe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is there a way to filter stories to cut out ones from individual editors?

      Yes, it's in your system preferences.

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    3. Re:Idle by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      I just removed samzenpus from the Index > Authors and now this story isn't visible on the /. frontpage. I used the Back function of my browser to come back and post :o)

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    4. Re:Idle by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      He's still better than timothy. His consistently worthless contributions are what eventually compelled me to create an account.

      So, you have an account... and it's "Anonymous Coward"? I'm pretty sure I've seen your posts in some of tim's contributions :oD

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    5. Re:Idle by jank1887 · · Score: 1

      Then the Emperor has already won.

  13. Jewtube? by eln · · Score: 1, Redundant

    In the post, he displays a bunch of youtube links and refers to them as "Jewtube". Did I miss a meme or is that supposed to be some sort of anti-semitic dig at YouTube?

    Relevant cut and paste (since people are reporting the site as down now):

    Jewtube videos, make sure you watch in high quality (below links are hq links)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pam5qLu8CwY&fmt=18 - shiny outside video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D2SfiYZwTM&fmt=18 - pretty inside video, it's a bit dark but the leds make it look pretty as it spins

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soqL6ol3yIs&fmt=18 - reflection of faces as it spins, somewhat trippy and very under-water-esque

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGyOcTHnBD4&fmt=18 - night time reflection in the ceiling, spooky and very scary... mostly

  14. Re:One Comment by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. I like analog trees better by krygny · · Score: 1

    That does not resemble, nor is it likely to be confused with a Christmas Tree.

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  16. Lots of work to do by Jeff+Hornby · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's good to see that this guy has plenty to do at work.

    As opposed to everybody else here who are so busy that they don't even have the time to look at Slashdot. Oh, wait...

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  17. Re:One Comment by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

    oops, wrong page. However, it will give you a photo of the tree.

  18. Mirror by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 1

    here you guys go.. http://whaleinacubicle.com/hdd_christmas_tree/.

    Sorry it is so rushed, gotta catch a flight..

    happy holidays.

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    1. Re:Mirror by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 1

      Wow, what a bunch of haters. All negative responses after I mirror the content without one thanks? I won't make the mistake of doing that again, because I guess I must not have helped anybody..only offended them.

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    2. Re:Mirror by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 1

      Hah. It was ugly, indeed.

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  19. Re:Jewtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Would it really have taken too much effort to rotate the first video by 90Â? Pretty poorly performed.

  20. Re:FAIL by skammie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, most autistic kids stack things very neatly and precisely. So no need to further heap insults on autistic children by comparing them to this guy.

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  21. Oh no! by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone formatted my Christmas tree!!

    1. Re:Oh no! by MarkRose · · Score: 4, Funny

      Was that all you had left? Did someone raid all your funny hard drive jokes? ;-)

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    2. Re:Oh no! by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 1

      No, I still have some jokes left. Now, if only if I remember where I stored them. ...proceeds to take each hard drive off the tree, plugs it into computer, and searches for joke file containing hard drive jokes...

    3. Re:Oh no! by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 1

      Now, if the FBI is going to raid your house, will they also take your Christmas tree?

      The grinch, I mean government, stole Christmas!!

  22. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by nsheppar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will that be pre-order, in-order, or post-order traversal?

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  23. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by von_rick · · Score: 2, Funny

    fsck that!

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  24. Re:Jewtube? by JazzLad · · Score: 1

    Apparently jewtube.com is a real site ... doesn't seem to be anti-Semitic at first glance, duhno for sure though - looks like they have had a whopping 2 contributors to the main page, though ... either very small (and perhaps he was trying to draw attention to it) or more insidious that appears.

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  25. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    And having it all in a tree makes it easier to search, too!

  26. Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by CPE1704TKS · · Score: 1

    I have 15 hard drives that I've collected over the years, and I want to get rid of them. I tried wiping them clean using sdelete from sysinternals, but this is really, really slow, and I'm not certain of how good that will work. Afterwards, for each hard drive, I connected it to my computer using a USB conversion kit, then as I copied something to the drive, I took a hammer and smashed it while it was writing until it made very weird noises.

    Unfortunately, this isn't good enough for me, so I started disassembling the hard drives, and physically bending the platters, as well as taking the strong magnets located in the arm, and using that to hopefully wipe out some of the magnetic data stored there.

    My question: do the internals of hard drives contain some sort of chemical that I should be concerned about? I have about 15 of these drives I want to destroy, so any exposure to chemicals might be a lot.

    1. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      I take 'em to the rifle range... not much can be recovered after a bunch of 30 caliber holes appear in it... Heck, once there were some guys playing with tannerite... impressive boom!

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    2. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by jweller · · Score: 1

      multiple writes of the entire drive with random noise is considered to be pretty good. I don't believe that the average joe who wants to just steal your CC nums has access to the equipment or the knowledge to recover data from the drives in that scenario. Even less likely if you come up with some sort of mechanical destruction. I know it takes a while to do those multiple writes, but I'd just set up an old machine to do it.

      I would hit the platters with a belt sander. Wear a dust mask. Another option would be to run a bead along them with a welder. I know my MIG machine will render magnets non-magnetic, so I have to guess that it would be pretty effective at demagnetizing the platters as well.

    3. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by Voyager529 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I take 'em to the rifle range... not much can be recovered after a bunch of 30 caliber holes appear in it...

      You'd be surprised at the lengths to which the RIAA will go to gather evidence.

    4. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by swordgeek · · Score: 5, Informative

      a) 15 drives isn't a lot.
      b) If there were any volatile chemicals, they would have left long ago, by heating in an unsealed chamber (drives are NOT sealed to the air! If they were, the cases would rupture.)
      c) If there were any loose chemicals, they'd have moved around in the case and screwed things up.
      d) How deleted do you need your data? Do you actually know?

      Realistically, you're looking at hard metals and hard ceramics. Are you eating parts from your hard drives? If not, then you've practically got nothing to worry about.

      Sdelete can be quite thorough--far moreso than dismantling drives and bending platters. Specifically, "SDelete implements the Department of Defense clearing and sanitizing standard DOD 5220.22-M..." Is that good enough for you? Do you know if it is?

      I'm always slightly aggravated by people who say, "I need to destroy the data on this drive, but I didn't bother to learn how well software wipes work, so I decided to ignore all of the known data and invent my own procedure based on what I think would be a good idea."

      Ask the important questions: What is the sensitivity of the data (i.e. how would your life be affected by its compromise--identity theft? divorce? jail?) and what is the desirability of it (how hard would someone work to find it)?

      If you're producing kiddy porn or selling state secrets, then both of those factors are extremely high, and you should be investigating thermite. If they're tax returns and account spreadsheets from the past 15 years, then sdelete is probably overkill if used correctly (which can only be done IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH!). Maybe you're a doctor with patient records--consider hiring a professional data destruction service.

      Bending platters and wiping magnets across them is haphazard, undocumented, unreliable, and unlikely. The only reason to dismantle a drive is to scavenge the parts, not wipe the data.

      As an aside, anyone with sensitive documents that would affect others (i.e. doctors) has a moral responsibility to learn a sufficient amount about this stuff to deal with it properly.

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    5. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      you did not destroy them enough. I can still read them.

      melt them in a smelter. only way.

      No, you need to take off and nuke the drives from orbit. That's the only way to be sure. Turn them into a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska.

      --
      Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
    6. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by CPE1704TKS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for your input, I didn't realize they weren't vacuum sealed, but you make a great point about air expansion.

      I have no clue what information I have on these drives, but don't worry, it's not kiddie porn. However, I do know the fallacy of assuming that data on my drives are not recoverable, even if I do take the proper measures using current technologies. What I don't like is the fact that I have my entire life exposed in some garbage dump, that maybe 10 years in the future some garbage dump scavenger happens to come across my drive, and the technology has advanced to the point that the information is completely recoverable.

      What if I do a dd on my drives, throw them out, some dumpster diver picks them up, uses it for kiddie porn, then forgets about the drive. 5 years from now, someone happens to find the drive, gives it to the FBI, the technology advances to the point where they can somehow recover my TurboTax documents that were supposed to be deleted but actually weren't. They will come knocking on my door, take me down for questioning, and my reputation is ruined.

      It's the exact same reason why I have zero presence on the Internet with my real identity. Data is forever. People could get screwed by it's misuse, and I don't want to be one of them. I don't need to apologize for being overly cautious. This isn't the 1950s anymore, you need to use different measures to protect yourself. 10 years ago, people would have laughed at you for shredding your documents with a crosscutting shredder. Now it's standard practice. I think people should treat all their information the exact same way.

    7. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised at the lengths to which the RIAA will go to fabricate evidence.

      There, fixed that for you...

    8. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      Drill through it. People aren't going to re-use it after that, and by the time someone can recover any data from it it will all be very irrelevant to you.

    9. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by toddestan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have no clue what information I have on these drives, but don't worry, it's not kiddie porn. However, I do know the fallacy of assuming that data on my drives are not recoverable, even if I do take the proper measures using current technologies. What I don't like is the fact that I have my entire life exposed in some garbage dump, that maybe 10 years in the future some garbage dump scavenger happens to come across my drive, and the technology has advanced to the point that the information is completely recoverable.

      If you're really that paranoid, why don't you just keep the drives around after you SDelete them? 15 drives really don't take up much space, even less so if you reduce it to just a stack of platters and get rid of the other bits. That way, you don't have to worry about anyone scavenging the drives from a garbage dump somewhere. And besides, keeping them around could mean burying them in your yard and pouring a concrete porch over them. I would say that's pretty secure.

    10. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by DriveMelter · · Score: 1

      There are two types of platters in hard disks, one is a metal disk coated with thin glass/plastic the other is glass. Bending the first causes the surface to craze you can then snap them after a few bends, these can then be melted along with the casing. Bending the glass ones causes them to shatter all over your workshop with small sharp fragments that you could be still finding months later. For my latest batch of disks to melt I shook them up in a large plastic tub with some rocks and that separated the two types. --- Please be aware, I don't melt drives to wipe the data from them that's just a side effect of the process. The cases of the drives seem to melt and cast very well and it sure beats trying to melt drinks cans. http://tinyurl.com/FlowerpotFurnace/ ---

    11. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by DriveMelter · · Score: 1

      The electronics may emit toxins so strip those out if you are thinking of burning the drives.

    12. Re:Question: are hard drive internals poisonous? by shrikel · · Score: 1

      What if I do a dd on my drives, throw them out, some dumpster diver picks them up, uses it for kiddie porn, then forgets about the drive. 5 years from now, someone happens to find the drive, gives it to the FBI, the technology advances to the point where they can somehow recover my TurboTax documents that were supposed to be deleted but actually weren't. They will come knocking on my door, take me down for questioning, and my reputation is ruined.

      Wow. Really wow. That is possibly the most paranoid comment I have ever read on an online forum. Ever. And that's saying something.

      --
      Any sufficiently simple magic can be passed off as mere advanced technology.
  27. Re:WTF? by GerardAtJob · · Score: 1

    This should go into the Idle section... lol btw nice crap

    --
    I can't call that English ;-)
  28. Re:Jewtube? by shaka · · Score: 2, Informative

    Parent is not flamebait, the author actually wrote that in the article. It disturbed me, too.

    And "megamerican" can please take his conspiracy theories elsewhere.

    --
    :wq!
  29. Miss old America Online CDs by SirLanse · · Score: 1

    I remember when:
    It was easy to decorate with all the CDs from AOL.

  30. Re:WTF? by oodaloop · · Score: 1

    There are holidays other than Christmas, hence the plural form. Back before Christians stole it, like they do everything else, the holiday was the winter solstice. It was a time of giving gifts and lighting candles.

    --
    Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
  31. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

    We'll need a solution to the traveling reindeer problem to figure that out.

  32. Re:Spinning tree of death. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The guy could have at least used some of the drive spindle motors to make it spin on its own.

    Yeah, I want to see it spinning at 15K.
    (from behind bulletproof glass)

  33. Re:Merry Christmas from Jeff Spicoli by thousandinone · · Score: 2, Funny

    He has this ULTIMATE set of tools.

    [citation needed] -love, Mom

  34. Re:Drill a hole in the plater and microwave it. by CPE1704TKS · · Score: 1

    What about all the dust that is generated from drilling it? I'd rather just disassemble it and bend it, and then toss it in the dumpster. Hopefully if someone comes across it, the platters will have been mangled enough to make the data unreadable.

  35. Must be the BOFH by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Instead of formatting every hard drive (would have taken weeks performing a DoD level wipe) and disposing them all together with the servers, I decided to disassemble the hard drives and recycle them into something neat... The Xmas tree is made with parts from hard drives only except for one nut which I had to purchase for $0.39.

    Sounds like you already had a nut - the one building the tree. I'm guessing you either:

    • grossly exaggerated the business requirement for a DoD-level wipe; or
    • have BOFH-style job security; or
    • better polish up your CV once your boss realises what you've done
    1. Re:Must be the BOFH by TW0lf · · Score: 1

      A DOD level wipe is 3-7 (Depends of classification) random-write passes on the hard drive. I have seen older servers take 2-3 days. As long as he ran them over a degausser (takes 30 Seconds) his disposal method is approved. (BTW I am a DOD contractor and just had to dispose of 652 hard drives from old systems, the degausser was a god-send)

  36. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    deltree /y

  37. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Gospodin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does "dismantel" mean "take something off the mantel"? I'm going to dismantel my Christmas cards around New Year's Day.

    --
    ...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
  38. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by xaositects · · Score: 3, Funny

    boo!

  39. DoD level wipe by devnullkac · · Score: 1

    Can't read the slashdotted article, but from the youtube video it looks like, instead of properly disposing of your DoD data, you put it in your front yard where anyone could snag a platter unnoticed and then announced your "accomplishment" on Slashdot so everyone can go find your data.

    How did you get this job? Somebody call Security.

    --
    What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
  40. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by HalWasRight · · Score: 1

    You read my mind. The link is slashdotted so I couldn't check the details, but if he removed the platters from a DoD secure area without the blessing of their IA guy, then he should loose his job, and potentially has criminal liability.

    --
    "This mission is too important to allow you to jeopardize it." -- HAL
  41. Re:Drill a hole in the plater and microwave it. by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    no chems to worry about except dust from the magnets if powdered and eaten.

    really, though you have got to be trolling as no one is that paranoid who doesn't also have a reasonable grasp of the technology and cost benefit analysis.

    Let's face it:
    A simple dd 0 over a drive is sufficient for all the major recovery houses to say: "no can do"
    If the government has the tech to recover that data anyway (which I would presume they have), it would be a time intensive affair. You have to be a very attractive target to worry about them spending the resources on you for that. Your local PD / state can't do that.
    finally, if you really are that afraid of someone reading your disks then do the following:

    buy a propane / mapp gas torch. Light it.
    burn the platters till the CVD media peels away from the platter, or till it glows deep red, whichever comes first. Done.
    -nB

    --
    whois gawk date unzip strip find touch finger mount join nice man top fsck grep eject more yes exit umount sleep dump
  42. A variation on this theme... by swordgeek · · Score: 1

    A few years ago, a friend of mine acquired a Sun RSM cabinet, fully loaded with seven trays of disks. He set up plaiding on it (RAID5 down in hardware, striping across in software) so that any significant write would access every drive in the rack.

    On Christmas eve, he turned the lights down low and ran a full fsck on the volume. For hours, he had hundreds of green LEDs flashing on and off, heralding the Christmas spirit.

    (I suspect he had a fair amount of Christmas spirits in him as well.)

    --

    "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  43. Re:WTF? by lgw · · Score: 1

    You need to go buy a "Merry Whatever Offends Liberals" sweater! This particular PC crap pisses me off as well. Only the word "Christmas" is Christian, the holiday is far older, and there's no reason not to be merry about it.

    --
    Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  44. Re:Jewtube? by multipartmixed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it's an anti-hispanic jab, made by referencing their difficulty pronouncing "you". It just happens to look anti-semetic, but really, it's just anti-hispanic. Which is actually almost okay, because hispanics are almost white, and you're allowed to make fun of white folk.

    --

    Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
  45. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by rockbottoms · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't even see it... slash-potted Please seed!

  46. Re:Obligatory by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    Beowulf forrest?

    Or would you start with just a glade?

    --
    I drank what? -- Socrates
  47. Nuke 'em from orbit... by Dmala · · Score: 1

    ...it's the only way to be sure.

  48. I do indeed. by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 1

    and he responds in kind, He loves Christmas. :-)

    --
    If I had an Ass, I'd call it Fanny Bottom, then I could slap my Ass; Fanny Bottom, on the Arse.
  49. DOS Xmas by rockbottoms · · Score: 2, Funny

    December 26th... time to run deltree

  50. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    At least its an honest wish. Happy Holidays is a cop out. In an attempt to be "all inclusive" we basically shut everyone out and not even allow them to know what religion we are. I am Christian, I say Merry Christmas. I am including you in the joy of my religion's holiday, regardless of weather you wish to partake of the holiday, I am extending the invitation at least. I have Jewish friends, who I knew were Jewish, and I explained this to them the first time I wished the Merry Christmas, that I knew they were Jewish, and I hope they have/had a Great Hanukkah when it rolls around (or rolled around), but for now, its Christmas and I wish them the joy of this holiday. Several of them wished me a Happy Hanukkah, with the intent that they were being sarcastic, but I thanked them very much for the thought. I did not bother with a "I don't celebrate Hanukkah, I celebrate Christmas" I just took it for what it was, a wish for happiness during that particular time of the year. Naming the holiday includes others in your life, not naming it puts up a barrier between you and them, quite in contradiction to the intent of the phrase.

    Merry Christmas Everyone!

  51. Re:Drill a hole in the plater and microwave it. by networkBoy · · Score: 1

    yes they can do that legally, but it is practicality speaking, impossible.*

    -nB
    *unless that what the ~rimshot~ tag was for, in which case I fail it.
    -nB

    --
    whois gawk date unzip strip find touch finger mount join nice man top fsck grep eject more yes exit umount sleep dump
  52. Re:Jewtube? by megamerican · · Score: 1

    And "megamerican" can please take his conspiracy theories elsewhere.

    How is explaining why someone would call it jewtube a conspiracy theory?

    Oh my, someone posted two links and made a connection between them. They must believe that the moon landing was hoaxed and that Elvis shot Kennedy on the grassy knoll!

    I don't condone his use of jewtube but he has a right to his opinion.

    --
    If you have something that you dont want anyone to know, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place -Eric Schmidt
  53. Re:Jewtube? by The+Iso · · Score: 1

    Larry Page and Sergey Brin happen to be Jewish. In addition, YouTube recently responded to pressure from the Anti-Defamation League to remove content posted by Palestinian terrorists.

    --
    "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." - Bob Dylan
  54. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by makapuf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess you would at least have access to some logs ...

  55. Re:Wow! by cromar · · Score: 1

    Free time? More like TREE time. Har.

  56. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by HiVizDiver · · Score: 4, Funny

    While you guys had me on pins and needles waiting for the next clever post, I think I'm going to leave.

  57. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that Slashdot has toasted the rest of his servers, he has some more hard drives to make ornaments out of.

    --
    -==- Buy a Mac and leave me alone!
  58. dir by teknosapien · · Score: 2, Funny

    Always wondered what a directory tree looked like in a physical form

    --
    no matter how good it is, it is human nature always wants to make things better
  59. NetworkMirror got it. by antdude · · Score: 1

    Click here. It's slow though, but the photographs are there. :)

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  60. Re:Drill a hole in the plater and microwave it. by josh_freeman · · Score: 1

    fire them from a Rail gun into a concrete wall. Get the Drive wipe and catastrophic impact all in one neat, tidy package.

  61. Magnets? by pixelguru · · Score: 1

    My god... he's probably got enough magnets on his refrigerator to life a Pinto!

  62. Re:Why is an individual plural by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Frankly I say "Merry Christmas" to everyone, in the spirit that I want whoever I am saying it to to be happy on Christmas regardless of what they are actually celebrating.

    And therein lies the problem. Do you know how arrogant that statement sounds to a non-Christian? Not everyone wants your holiday or your holiday cheer, and it would be nice if more Christians respected that instead of demanding everyone be happy for them.

    --
    Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
  63. Re:Spinning tree of death. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait for your coworkers to gather around it and then fire it up. Now that's what I call an office prank.

    --
    USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
  64. only one nut by whtmarker · · Score: 1

    How is it possible it only took 1 'nut' to build that?

    1. Re:only one nut by KeithJM · · Score: 1

      Well, the one nut had lots of free time, I guess.

  65. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by BytePusher · · Score: 1

    What if you have access to a leaf node?

  66. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Hordeking · · Score: 1

    How did we go from DOD erasure to removing the platters to make a tree? The data could still be recovered in its current tree state!

    Only if you traverse the tree.

    --
    Disclaimer: The opinions and actions of the US Gov't are in no way representative of those held by this author or its ci
  67. Re:Why is an individual plural by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    And therein lies the problem. Do you know how arrogant that statement sounds to a non-Christian?

    Less arrogant than someone willfully choosing to take offense because I wish them a single nice day?

    Not everyone wants your holiday or your holiday cheer

    Ok then Mr Grinch. I wish you nothing but a life of despair which I'm sure you'll take care to provide yourself. An odd choice, but one you seem adamant about.

    I'm not even really religious, in the same way that Christmas is hardly a Christian holiday a this point. If you are going to cringe and melt at the very word "Christmas" then there is no placating your sensitivities and I frankly see no need to even try. To me you seem way more arrgant than you are claiming I am - so where's your sensitivity for MY feelings on the matter, eh?

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  68. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by skuzzlebutt · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and who the hell hired that Bob Cratchit anyway...? Always bitching about overtime...bah...

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  69. Re:Obligatory by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, you don't want a Beowulf forest, because then you have to worry about Grendel showing up.

  70. Re:Why is an individual plural by Kagura · · Score: 1

    Huh? Christmas is a pretty secular holiday for me. I celebrate it because it's fun to give thoughtful presents and receive thoughtful presents. I could care less about Jesus. "Happy Holidays" was used to wish a happy Christmas long before anybody had the idea that it should be a way of referring to non-christian holidays, too. Just a bunch of silly atheists* finding a way to make themselves relevant again.


    *I'm essentially an atheist, as well. Don't get angry at me for ragging on atheists, get angry at weirdos who make a big deal out of other people not being atheists.

  71. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by richardkelleher · · Score: 1

    Since the site doesn't want to cough up the actual image, we don't know where the tree is located. It might still be in the server room.

  72. re: by NigelT · · Score: 1

    There seems to have been a problem with the database. Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser. An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience. aka The Slashdot Effect

  73. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by sunny256 · · Score: 1

    And the error message also reads: "An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists."

    They're in for a surprise when opening their inbox tomorrow.

  74. Christmas tree made out of wireless motes by codemachine · · Score: 1

    Simple christmas tree made out of wireless sensor network hardware:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9114468111694568337&hl=en

    Using 22 MicaZ motes, one displaying a counter on the LEDs and broadcasting, the rest listening and displaying what they receive on their LEDs.

  75. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by sveard · · Score: 1

    Sorry, running low on caffeine...going back to my cave now.

    You mean your lair, right?

  76. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by severoon · · Score: 1

    Have a 1.5 terabyte Christmas, everyone!

    --
    but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
  77. Playing by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm always slightly aggravated by people who say, "I need to destroy the data on this drive, but I didn't bother to learn how well software wipes work, so I decided to ignore all of the known data and invent my own procedure based on what I think would be a good idea."

    So. . , I decided to ignore all of the known data and invent my own procedure based on what I thought would be a good idea.

    Removed ceramic platter. Applied hammer for about thirty seconds. Scattered the resulting handful of dust outside. If I'd wanted to increase the difficulty of data recovery, I suppose I could have destroyed two platters at the same time, but I only had one old drive to play with.

    Also, I didn't call it a, 'Procedure'. I called it, 'Playing'.

    But each to his own.

    -FL

    1. Re:Playing by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Playing is something of which I approve 100%. I've smashed many a hard drive in imaginative ways. However, that's _after_ sanitizing them of important data, to a degree that I can control.

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    2. Re:Playing by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

      Playing is something of which I approve 100%. I've smashed many a hard drive in imaginative ways. However, that's _after_ sanitizing them of important data, to a degree that I can control.

      That's cool. --I have to admit, I woke up feeling grumpy and decided to respond to your post in Dick-Mode. Sorry. It wasn't fair; you made several good points.

      -FL

  78. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by severoon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh SCSI tree, oh SCSI tree, How shiny are your plaaaaat-ters!
    Redundancy, redundancy, how you protect your d444-t3rz!

    --
    but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
  79. Not unique. by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

    The crew of Skylab 4 used old food cans for their Christmas Tree. Here is an image from NASA image:
    http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~7~7~35051~138918:Christmas-tree--created-by-Skylab-4
    During the first gulf war in 1991, I seen Christmas trees made from old MRE bags.

  80. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    dismantle, dismantled
    I suggest that you can dismantle your cards instead.

    --
    Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
  81. Re:Why is an individual plural by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    25th of December was/is a pagan celebration.
    It's just that the 'Holy Fathers' used it for JC's birthday.

    --
    Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
  82. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by scatters · · Score: 1

    The article is taking about performing a DoD compliant data destruction on this disks, rather than he has taken DoD disks and 'reused' them.

    Good data destruction techniques are something that any company which values is IP or customer data will perform on a disk prior to disposal. Data desposed of in this manner cannot, in theory, be recovered.

    --
    A One that isn't cold, is scarcely a One at all.
  83. Re:Why is an individual plural by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    Pagans do.
    It's also based on the equinox (Dec 22nd), but the pagans got it wrong....

    --
    Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
  84. Re:Obligatory by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

    That would make it a glade server?

    --
    Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
  85. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by UltraAyla · · Score: 4, Funny

    but he's dreaming of a wiped Christmas!

  86. Re:Why is an individual plural by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    Nobody's forcing you to celebrate Christmas, and if you really want to be miserable, well, please pardon people wishing you to be happy. It is a well-intentioned mistake.

    --
    Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
  87. Re:What are the plans after the tree is dismantele by Cramer · · Score: 1

    Exactly. Taking the platters out of the drive doesn't alter the data on them at all. So, he's done less to protect that (worthless) data by turning it into a tree.

    And DoD "erasure" is basically "destroyed with thermite"; any drive that has ever held classified data is physically destroyed, not erased. I will never get over people's blind stupidity over "data security"... zeroing the drive is more than enough to erase your data from all but about 10 people on Earth. Trust me on this one: Your. Data. Isn't. THAT. Valuable. (and to be honest, most of the stuff labeled "classified", isn't worth the effort either.)

  88. Re:Obligatory by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 1

    Ah, good, someone got it. :-)