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AT&T, Comcast To Join RIAA Team
suraj.sun writes "AT&T and Comcast, two of the nation's largest Internet service providers, are expected to be among a group of ISPs that will cooperate with the music industry in battling illegal file sharing, three sources close to the companies told CNET News. The RIAA said last month that it had enlisted the help of ISPs as part of a new antipiracy campaign. The RIAA has declined to identify which ISPs or how many. It's important to note that none of the half dozen or so ISPs involved has signed agreements. But as it stands, AT&T and Comcast are among the companies that have indicated they wish to participate in what the RIAA calls a 'graduated response program.'"
I'm sure that's right out of the CIA 'Robust Interrogation' handbook. When do they get to pulling out the fingernails?
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
work out how much money the record companies make from sales.
setup a server with all music on it that people can add to.
charge people a fixed fee based on the record companies current sales to access the server and file share music as much as they like.
Record companies get their money.
People get as much music as they want.
Win Win.
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
Does this really surprise anyone given that AT&T was at the forefront of the illegal wiretapping scandal?
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The gang (Comcast, AT&T and the RIAA), have ganged up to frustrate internet users. That's sad. I hope they know full well that a chain is as strong as its weakest link. So unless all ISPs join "the gang" which is not the case, this arrangement will not work.
My personal hope is that it fails. Period.
It seems that the RIAA part would Imply the United States.
You mad
I've been thinking of ditching Comcast for Verizon (the only two broadband options in Philadelphia) - if Verizon is not on board, then I guess that seals the deal!
Missing original CNET News article link :
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10151389-93.html
Corporate america is creating a legal regime and prosecution system outside the law.
This has to be stopped.
the one that the RIAA operates in?
what does that last A stand for on your side of the pond, teabag?
http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850 Text here to thwart the filter.....
"Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
The Nation were there is Comcast, AT&T and RIAA
-Greek Citizen
Encrypt everyting. No more tapping, HTTP ad injections and other shit. They have no right to your internet information.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
You're not a "British citizen" because there's no such thing.
You're a subject of the Crown.
Consequently, I think you're a liar.
Oh wait, they are virtual monopolies.
Id say its time for freenet, but they that that angle closed due to bandwidth caps.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Assholes?
LAN parties are even better - more productive and a greater selection.
RS
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
Comcast et al are seeking cover to squash p2p to relieve their bandwidth problems. RIAA makes a nice scape goat is things go badly.
Wondeful, because there's no other crime that even comes close to music piracy.
Just imagine it, you get arrested and put in a cell with a dozen other people:
Cell occupant 1: "Hey pale skinny white guy, what you in here for?"
Cell occupant 2: "I bet he got caught jacking a 7-11"
Cell occupant 1: "That's what I'm in here for"
Cell occupant 3: "No shit, that's what I did last week, but I got caught today mugging someone"
Cell occupant 1: "So what is it boy?"
You: "I downloaded a Backstreet Boys album without paying for it.."
*all the other cell occupants slowly back away*
To do something right, you often have to roll up your sleeves and get busy.
They just want to stop all the bittorrent traffic, so they can still claim to have "unlimited" download rates. Next step is to retry the "make all content providers that AREN'T us pay us to use our bandwidth".
That includes iTunes, Zune, etc.
Wonderful, this looks like both AT&T and Comcast, now are starting to see that this might help them lock out competition, it would be the only reason they would partner with the RIAA. Implimentation of something that would help prevent file sharing would only cost them money and most likely customers. So the only reason I can see this happening is some way to lock out the competition.
They are all (#@^%_('ers, glad I don't have to be stuck with either one.
As a note I don't listen to music much and don't download it, but I will be pissed if they start limiting the file sharing that doesn't breaking copyright laws.
Well I have comcast, and ATT since I have an iPhone. Comcast seems to be the only good choice for broadband where I am. ATT I am stuck with because the iPhone is so good that you put up with the second rate service. I would love to leave them both for how they treat their customers, but I don't have any good choices. so what can I do?
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Sorry, I thought the ".org" domain was for organisations from around the globe, not specifically america. I stand corrected.
The disappearing pencil trick. Let me show you it.
Given that the RIAA/MPAA create music and movies, and that telecoms are bundling TV channels as well as internet services, and the people producing the content for the TV channels are pretty much all members of the RIAA/MPAA or share their interests in protecting their copyrighted works, it's hardly a surprise that ISPs are willing to cooperate. In fact, I'm surprised more ISPs aren't.
Those ISPs that are purely providing connectivity and don't also have cable/satellite TV services among their offered products may hold out against the RIAA/MPAA a bit longer, but I don't expect that it'll last. The major players will bundle with content producers, and will comply with assisting in copyright enforcement in order to secure the revenue that their TV packages provide.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Something that isn't entirely clear to me - obviously this is a bad thing - but doesn't this mean that people just jump ship and go to other ISPs? Business usually understands people moving with their feet.
It seems to me that whether or not anyone agrees with whether or not virtual piracy is right and just, the RIAA and MPAA continue to be about nine years behind current technologies.
Because there are now newsreaders and bittorrent clients for every platform that support encrypted connections over clever ports, the RIAA and MPAA will not be able to include exactly which files were shared, if any, in any court documents they submit for any case where the defendant dutifully encrypted all of their connections.
In fact, to my knowledge, not one case has ever come up where the defendant's connection to a swarm (or anything else) was encrypted.
So there it is. Really the thing to be concerned about is how much extra we're each going to be paying per month for the privilege of using the internet in order for these jackass companies to support their useless puckering for the beached, bloated whale that is the RIAA.
Nono, that's the first A.
"Recording Industry Assholes of America."
=Smidge=
Since we're stuck with ConCast, I'll have to do a lot more P2P if they're going to team with the Rabid Idiot Asshole Industry. I don't share any files the copyright holders don't want shared, but The Station's The Fog will likely be confused by ConCast and the RIAA by a tune by one of their artists by the same name.
If they try to sue me, I'll have Dave sue THEM for infringing HIS copyright, and I will also sue them for slander.
This should be fun.
Free Martian Whores!
The first time my AT&T account gives me shit when I go to pirate bay, I'm going over to Time Warner. And when Time Warner gives me shit, then I will sit around all day and remember the good old days when the internet was open and free and we had a large number of different ISP's to choose from (before the dial-up's were replaced by one DSL company and one cable company).
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
When an ISP gets into the business of content delivery, they're devotion to being the best ISP possible goes out the window. And, unless I'm mistaken, Comcast and AT&T both have their own media delivery services (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken) so I'm not the least bit surprised that they want to work with the RIAA in this.
I miss the days when our ISPs were internet service providers...
I'd add a +1 Informative if I hadn't made the opening post.
Cheers
The disappearing pencil trick. Let me show you it.
The issue comes with "current" sales being less than their "goals." (A fundamental always present problem in capitalism, particularly of companies with shareholders). If you make an RIAA blessed file sharing service and let them set the price on their goals, you've at best, produced a less-financially viable alternative (due to their poor public persona) to other all-you-can-eat music services, and at worst further intrenched their near-monopoly when it comes to price setting.
The second problem would be that the only way for them to "keep" customers paying for the service (which would be required or the cost-of-entry to meet that goal would be astronomically high on sign-up, which would detur customers) would be to use DRM, and as much as I hate DRM, the last person I want holding that digital key is a firm that believes customers ought to re-buy the content everytime technology changes (VHS->DVD->BluRay->Stream).
Thirdly, if by some miracle they didn't use DRM, nothing would stop sharing of the files between non-member users, and they'd still be in the same boat: sharing by customers who can't (because they are under 18 and can't get a credit card), won't (idealism, cheap, lazy, lack of other legal channels) or legal sharing that they'd love to see illegalized (e.g. on all my devices, PCs, including my laptop and work PC, which they insist I ought to buy over-and-over).
Forgive my spelling from time to time. I'm often posting during short breaks.
No worries! In the next story we're going to talk about gun rights and big cars that go real fast in straight lines...
"Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
These ISPs like to complain about the excessive bandwidth used by filesharers. I can only assume that once they start kicking these evil users off the system, my connection speeds will increase to the advertised rates, and soon they will be able to reduce my monthly bill.
Of course, when I don't know something I just use google.
You mad
Although I've been a Slashdot user for years (id in the 40K range), I'm posting anonymously because of the vitriol that I'm likely to incur with the following statement:
Quit bitching about file sharing, what the RIAA is doing, and which ISPs are cooperating.
The vast majority of shared files are pirated movies/songs made by people who got off their asses and produced something from nothing. If you're downloading these, you're nothing but a fawkin' LEECH. That's right, a leech.
You're sucking out the economic value that artists, directors, etc. have produced and replacing it with ... nothing. Like you're owed it all!
If I came and swiped your Ipod or computer filled with pirated crap, you'd be pissed. You worked for that Ipod or computer (unless mommy or daddy gave it to you) and you damn well deserve to have it, and not have it swiped by someone. Riiight??? And you wouldn't whine if a neighbor spotting me swiping your shit, called the cops, and I got caught.
And don't try to say that the majority of file swappers are writing linux drivers and sharing them. Bullshit. Most downloads are either you fawking leeches or pervs.
I've watched this bullshit for nearly 10 years on Slashdot and well, it's tiring.
Go produce something before you bitch you can't download the efforts of someone else's labor for free. Then you'll understand why the RIAA and ISPs want to protect IP rights.
When will these companies realize who their customers are? It is the subscriber.
If they'll give my information to a corrupt trade organization whose strategy is suing grandmas, kids dead people and folks without computers, who else would they be willing to sell my personal information to?
They are either getting some money from the labels to do this to offset the customers who they are going to piss off, or they are counting on being a natural monopoly in certain markets. That or they've sold more broadband at cheap prices to get folks off dial up and realized that they can't turn a profit when you have folks choking down their connection. If Net Neutrality wins the day, and they can't throttle or shape the user's traffic any more, the only recourse companies will have is kicking their "excessive" users off the plan by either invoking the AUP or getting the RIAA to sue them into being a non-customer so they can let the *AA look like assholes instead of the ISP.
Forgive my spelling from time to time. I'm often posting during short breaks.
Oh great. Another batch of "that does it, I am ditching Comcast". Note also that they didn't even have to do anything yet, just put out a press release, and the troublemakers (sharers in this case) are busy playing the Crack Suicide Squad - which is exactly what's required from the point of view of the ISPs. Just get them off your own lawn, and report progress to RIAA. There's always enough lemmings (who don't know and don't care) to pay the bills.
Now, if the comments were running to the side of "that does it, I'm getting Comcast accounts for everyone and the dog and sharing like it's 1999", that would make more sense as a response. Otherwise, get used to the periodical pronouncements - they don't cost anything and are having at least some effect.
I can assure you, the best way to get rid of dragons is to have one of your own.
No youre just a dumbass who cant read the faq
http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850
This too shall pass. A couple of observations. First, P2P accounts for between one-third and four-fifths of internet traffic, depending on the entities collecting the data and the regions from where the data is collected. Either way, it seems like a lot. Second, internet usage continues to grow. People love YouTube, just wait until the quality improves. How many people are watching Netflix's Watch Now as a result of if being available on so many systems? Third, the economy will prevent many, if not most, ISPs from adding additional bandwidth. Thus, in order to keep up with increased legitimate demand without adding more capacity, it makes since that ISPs would want to reduce demand from file sharing. Simple, really.
Make love, not reality television.
Liable-- don't know-- do they alert the authorities? hell yes
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See ya later, AT&T!
This will just drive people to other ISPs. Comcast costs way too much anyway.
Wouldn't ISPs benefit more by spending the money to upgrade infrastructure to accommodate these filesharers instead of wasting it on these legal proceedings and countermeasures? I mean wouldn't the long term benefit of doing that bring in a higher return than alienating users who are going to eventually find a way around anything they try anyway?
That's it. I'm so sick of these companies I'm going to get ClearWire, I don't care if it's slower at least it's independent and not in bed with the Government/RIAA.
Is there a way to force a City to provide more than one telco and cable provider? It's got to be possible, how is this done, or what is the best way to go about changing this?
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I wonder how long it will take before the RIAA tells the ISP to kill someones connection based off the "evidence" when they are sharing legal files and the person sues the ISP for terminating their connection. Especially since in most places their is only one choice for ISP.
AFAIK, the ISPs don't have any legal power to block traffic. Nor do they have the legal right (as demonstrated by MediaSentry) to examine your packets to see what the content is, or your hard drive to see what files you possess.
I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that such a partnership would be on very shaky legal grounds.
The fact that one of the letters in the organization's initials stands for "America" sort of gives one a clue... Bloody tossers!
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race"
Eeeh. that would be the USA. we don't count little crappy islands as countries. we're big and strong and we can crush you like a roach! lol, just kidding man ;)
The Slashdot FAQ.
http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850
The more control they impose on us, the worse the whole situation is going to get. Music and movie sales are going to continue to go down, and they'll naturally blame it on piracy, but in truth, customers are being scared away by this whole thing.
I sure am going to miss downloading my preffered stuff of the moment. (try before you buy, of course... mostly... any day now...)
At least we got this far with comcast... Example, I work for a small (3 people small) isp in florida using motorola canopy hardware. We're the finest in reselling of bandwidth, let me tell you. Anyhow, I've been present a few times when riaa lawyers would call in and request our clients information. My boss just had to roll over on them and sell them up the river.
He lets clients download freely, burning up the line all day and night with torrents - and if riaa lawyers ever call, he's quick to give them what they want.
Kind of makes me wonder what's worse - restricting/throttling some idiot's bandwidth and keeping them out of trouble, or letting the idiot dig their own hole to bury themselves in. But the idiot really should know better, I mean, come on...
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It's going to suck no matter what!
Fuckers
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This article should be linked in the summary, not the one that is over a month old.
Being a computer scientist means you tell people how computers should work, not that you know how they actually work.
How bout everybody everywhere stops buying commercial music altogether for one year, find great local bands in our own home towns to idolize and watch the final demise of the recording industry on YouTube???
We all became Citizens in 1983. The only British subjects left are people who were a British subjects on 31 December 1948 who did not become a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, a citizen of a Commonwealth country, a citizen of Pakistan, or a citizen of the Republic of Ireland (and had made a claim to remain a British subject in 1948).
If I have nothing to hide, you have no reason to search me
AT&T, Comcast To Join RIAA Team
henceforth known as Axis of Evil
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For some reason I'm not suprised that the big ISP's in the USA are so eager to work with RIAA...
the two single largest ISPs in the country are teaming up with the RIAA because it simply suits them business-wise.
They feel that companies like apple's iTunes and amazon.com are reaping profits from their assets. They would do anything to hurt apple and amazon and other such companies.
by teaming up with the RIAA, these ISPs feel they will further their extortion agenda. This is a line in the sand.
They're using their grammar skills there.
So after this doesn't work will the RIAA simply resort to some how introducing legislation that will allow them to go house to house, break in the door, and demand money at gunpoint based solely on the basis that the residents have a pc with an internet connection?
"Sure, laugh..." I said.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Use two way handshake and encrypt everything with AES. Skype already does it with your calls and I love it cause you know no one can tell what you are doing. Unfortunately the RIAA might argue only pirates transfer large chunks of data across the internet so that encrypted piece of evidence is of course illegal music even though they don't know what it is. That seemed to work in their favor when they attacked people in civil court for criminal charges when all they had was an IP address and no indication that their material had been infringed upon. The legislature is in the shitter and no judge knows what to do.
Why wast time encrypting, using DC w/ offshore servers, and whatnot when with 1.5 T drives at what? 130 usd? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337 (make sure to update firmware) just take a drive, plop it in a damn near free enclosure, go to your friends house, Trade MP3's. Collaborate on what music to buy, (so you pay 50%) and Suave cycle it. You wanted a spare drive anyway for "backup" right?
P.S. Adding more friends reduces the cost closer and closer to near zero. 20 friends is like .20 usd / song. Less if you cycle used CD's, and even less if you count the stuff you allready have in trade.
How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
AT&T, finding new ways to reach out and touch you.
They conduct raids without the police.
This is only their lawsuit tactic under a different guise, but this time instead of having to file pesky John Doe lawsuits to force discovery, they are just trying to get ISPs to give details directly. This way they don't have to have MediaSentry (or whatever they changed their name to) to become 'expert witnesses'.
It is possible that the RIAA eventually hope to have the ISPs fine the 'infringers' directly:
"pay up or we'll cut your access".
Of course all of this is a violation of due process and could land the RIAA in hot water if they carry on down that road.
With the democrats in control, can we get the DMCA looked at?
Go ahead, Qwest, join this and give me a reason to break my contract and find a better ISP. :-)
Shh, it's ok iPhone, I'll never abandon you. There there. Shhh...
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It does make life easier vis a vis choosing an ISP. Comcast and AT&T are permanently blacklisted at my house and office.
If Obama reinstates the draft in a few years you'll be on the Group W bench and you'll be golden.
This kind of stuff would be totally fine with me, except for the fact that Comcast and AT&T are the only companies I can get broadband Internet access from.
Does anyone know of a way to find an ISP that respects users' rights? It seems that in many places you have the choice of AT&T or no Internet.
Unfortunately, there's no such thing as "voting with your wallet" any more.
Most ISPs are monopolies in their area. You either play their way or go without. You can complain to the municipal powers that regulate them. You'll be ignored. Your local municipal regulatory powers are far more interested in keeping the ISP gravy train running than worrying about disgruntled people...
We could all just walk, and go without broadband, in which case, the Telcos will go running to Congress for an emergency bailout and will receive 700 billion dollars deducted from our paychecks.
Look at the auto industry. American cars were so bad we quit buying them. We "voted with our wallets." Rather than competing, the leaders of those companies simply took their private jets to Washington and had their pet congressman hand them our money.
Look at our banks. They made loans that were laughable, mortgages that were guaranteed to fail. Did they face the consequences of their poor judgement? Nope, they took 700 billion of our tax dollars, and as of yesterday, the Treasury department refuses to tell Congress so much as who they gave the money to. It's gone and never coming back, like the two billion in cash that disappeared in Iraq.
If the president of some telco goes on a cocaine-and-entourage-of-hookers-fueled multi-million-dollar binge through Las Vegas and Macao, we'll cover the tab without question. If some 40-year-old single-mother-of-two waitress widow develops breast cancer, we'll give her a lecture about how her crotchfruit are a consumption choice and how she needs to learn personal responsibility.
It's time we face the terrifying reality that we no longer live in a democracy, and those in power can simply take what they want like in any other third-world hole...
He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
Questions and answers for just plain folks:
Want to download stuff with far less risk? Get a usenet account from a premium provider. Tunnel past your ISP. Download what you want. Enjoy.
Want to know what's there? Hit binsearch.info and see. Maybe you'll find what you need and be able to obtain it easily.
Want to help your ISPs avoid bandwidth problems? Download all you can from their usenet servers.
Want to risk all sorts of crappy involvement with the RIAA, the legal system, and potentially lose your internet connection? Just install any old p2p software and have at it.
Questions and answers for ISPs:
Want to help your business avoid bandwidth problems? Make sure you do a good job of running in-house usenet servers.
Want to screw yourself and your customers, impress technically unsophisticated observers with your faux commitment to the rule of law, and make everyone's life more difficult? Outsource or drop all usenet service and cooperate with the RIAA.
Question for Slashdot:
Why, in the lists above, is the last option the one most often exercised?
From the DMCA Safe Harbor Requirements
Sort of the flip side of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
The ISPs must Cooperate with the RIAA or face the possibility of being forced to do so by Congress. They will Criticize the RIAA methods and demands until public opinion has turned to the ISP's favor at which point they can ignore the wishes of the RIAA and Crush any further attempts to involve the ISPs in futile service-blocking schemes.
Cooperate, Criticize, Crush.
Try it, you might like it.
Here will be an old abusing of God's patience and the king's English.
"We shared our files via USENET ! And we LIKED IT!"
And we still like it, too.
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that both of those companies are already on my 'list of companies to never do business with' anyway.
Hey, great! My only two choices for broadband at home.
OK, High ID and all, here I go (and pointing out the obvious). Both Comcast and AT&T have infrastructures that support broadband. Both have rather large bandwith capability. AT&T has the advantage here (as far as carriers go) in that they are also the providers of broadband capability to the number of small ISP's in your area. Joe's Internet Service has to connect to someone, no? Who do you think provides that connectivity? Joe's Wideband Cross-Country Internet Provider for Small ISP's? No, AT&T does. There are a (very) few others, but AT&T is one of the biggies. Comcast has another infrastructure (Entertainment Delivery) that is connected across the US of A. They deliver bits and bytes of digital and analog signals, to include VOIP. When you make that long-distance call (who owns the backbone?), you get almost instant connectivity without lag or latency (various times of the day/month notwithstanding). This sits real nice with their shareholders/stockholders who are going to profit from the agreements for delivery of on-demand and feature-length shows over broadband connections. In the end, it's all just business.
Don't spend your life lamenting your life.
I am an AT&T shareholder. There, I said it.
Do I have any rights to complain as a shareholder that I think this is bad for the shareholders?
Nono, that's the first A.
"Recording Industry Assholes of America."
=Smidge=
Here's a Letterman-style Top Ten list (feel free to come up with more):
10. Reprehensible In All Activites
9. Reproduction Is An Abomination
8. Rotten Industry Attacks All
7. Rats Infesting American Artistry
6. Recording Industry Artistic Abuse
5. Rabid Industry Attack Animals
4. Ripping Is Anti American
3. Ripping Indies An Asshole
2. Reducing Innovation And Achievement
And the number one answer:
1. Racketeering Is An Asset
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Let's gong this one off the stage...
The story says "are expected to" meaning neither ISP mentioned has done so, the ISP's aren't saying they will, and the RIAA isn't saying who will. There hasn't been use of evidence collected this way that we know of... so why aren't we talking about Comcast, Time Warner, or Earthlink?
Maybe the poster should be checked for sales of stocks made around the time this story hit.
Well, I'd want more details on the program before I'm willing to believe that usenet is a safe alternative. The IP address of usenet providers is no secret, and surely, someone there would know how to type "whois 216.196.97.131" into a terminal. So what is to stop an ISP from going "hmmmm, I see customer 345222 downloads on average 2.3gb of data everyday between the hours of 11:00 pm and Midnight from IP 216.196.97.131" -- and then start making some conclusions about that customer. The amount of data transferred in the example is certainly suggestive of digital media of some kind, and even if one uses an encrypted tunnel to a usenet provider which keeps no logs, the download pattern will still be obvious. And while the ISP may not be able to ID what digital media is being downloaded, it's a safe enough bet that at least some of it involves copyright issues. Who gets their linux distros off usenet? Who downloads a new one every night?
What changed under Obama? Nothing Good
owned by the people!
The real people.
Filesharing is not a crime.
The world wide web is filesharing.
It transfers files for me everyday.
Anyways most of us filesharers don't sell the media!
Money = Greed
We pay the ISPs to use their service to download things. Upload too.
Now they are going to join forces with someone to stop us from doing that?
Why the FUCK would I keep doing business with them?
Is this some kind of joke? Are the guys running the bridge really that stupid?
What AM I missing here?
Thanks to all of you elected representatives and you appointed justices. You've destroyed what made America great.
I'd happily pay you Tuesday for a biopsy today!
The problem with that analogy is that every single bar of soap has a cost associated with it due to the materials used in its making. Music on the other hand has a 1 time cost (the cost to pay the band for that song) after that there is no cost per copy of the song. 10million people could pirate a copy of that song but the record company are only out (assuming 100% piracy) the cost of paying the band for that song the cost does not rise. However 10million people stealing 1 bar of soap at a value of £0.10 per bar quick adds up.
Piracy does not cost the RIAA anything except profit. Their operating costs do not rise because of it nor are there any materials used to "make" that song.
I don't see it. I don't see any news in the article at all. I don't see where there's any confirmation of any agreement with anyone.
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If they do this i'll switch to fios.