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Lockheed Snags $31 Million To Reinvent the Internet, Microsoft To Help
DARPA has awarded a $31 million contract to megacorp Lockheed Martin which will, with some assistance from Microsoft, attempt to reinvent the Internet and make it more military-friendly. "The main thrust of the effort will be to develop a new Military Network Protocol, which will differ from old hat such as TCP/IP in that it will offer 'improved security, dynamic bandwidth allocation, and policy-based prioritization levels at the individual and unit level.' Lockheed will be partnered with Anagran, Juniper Networks, LGS Innovations, Stanford University and — of course — Microsoft in developing the MNP. Apart from that, Lockheed's own Information Systems & Global Services-Defense tentacle will work on amazing new hardware."
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K.T.
It's already invented.
Well, we have to have at least one post referencing Skynet. And someone needs to post something about our new overlords...
LMCO and Microsoft: here's your protocol (hands them a copy of the ipv6 std doc).
US: thanks, that's great work! Here's your check.
hehe did someone mention microsoft and security in the same sentence?
Hopefully they will patent MNP up the wazoo so that the open sores leech community wont be able to steal their intellectual property. Go military industrial oligarchy!
How does this affect pr0n?
...that it will be TCP/IP with a pinch of pixie dust. Probably just changing a few extensions and reusing old code.
1331461 is only semiprime *sigh* Alas - I am just short of 1337.
... and used to interconnect medical devices, it'd give a whole new meaning to "blue screen of death"
Microsoft, from all people? ignore all the jokes about his consumer OS. His server software is horrible bad!!. Maybe Visual Studio is a nice tool, his compiler is average, but good. Other than that, why o why? I sould not be tecnical merits, has to be something else.
-Woof woof woof!
This makes a lot of sense, the military has unique requirements of all sorts, from security to e.g. their inability to hook up an aircraft carrier to fiber (except while at dock) to their need to carry both operational and personal traffic (the latter to keep their people in touch with home) over necessarily constrained links.
I like the bit about "self configuration capabilities to ... reduce the need for trained network personnel and lower overall life cycle costs for network management". While the current state of the art keeps us well employed, things could be easier. Heck, the more the systems I maintain for my parent self-configure, the happier I am.
And Al Gore could not be reached for comment.
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The next step from DARPA is asking Lada to reinvent the wheel to make it more military friendly, adding automatic braking and better resilience against bullets.
I gave up with the idea of an useful sig...
Yes. Also, how did they decide the effort should cost exactly $31 million of taxpayer money?
In another news, China buys 60% of Microsoft shares.
How the hell can you trust a corporation to handle the military security? No really, who the fuck had this brilliant idea?
Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
... and I can tell you that this sounds like a disaster in the making. LM is so top-heavy with bureaucracy and process-bloat that the company might as well be a mini-Pentagon itself (not so mini, either, now that I think about it). Nothing happens quickly at Lock-Mart, and the things that do happen cost a bloody blue fortune.
If nothing else, they'd better hire in some outside IT guys. If this work gets anywhere near the corporate IT bozos, the military can look forward to a future of XP Pro with daily forced updates, and new hardware every five years or so (which again, is not terribly far away from the way the armed forces IT already works)...
Does anyone else think that 31 million might be kind of a small sum of money to "reinvent the Internet"?
Grandpa: My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star.
These guys never know to keep it simple.
I've seen it happen with functional protocols that get revised in large defense organizations.
You an also improve the throughput of your attached USB device by plugging it into a USB2 port, which is what you would have done if this computer actually had USB2 ports on it, but it doesn't, and I'm not going to tell you how to shut these annoying messages off.
From reading the actual BAA, it sounds like this is not an effort to replace IP networks but to supplement them with additional protocols. In fact, the requirements explicitly state that MNP must carry legacy IPv4 and IPv6 traffic.
Hey.. MS has a good track record when it comes to implementing a new ubiquitous network right ?
Remember MSN (the thing that was suppose to kill the internet.. So much better than TCP/IP that Win 95 didn't have a TCP/IP stack to start with) ?
I'm wondering (ok.. not *really* wondering) why they went to those guys to do that..
--Ivan
if only! I sense XML based packets.
Or does $31 million sound like petty cash for Lockheed Martin and Microsoft to invent a superior, military grade communications protocol?
Anyone who loves or hates any language, platform, or manufacturer, doesn't know what they're talking about.
> Lockheed will be partnered with [snip]
> and - of course - Microsoft
> in developing the MNP
What's "of course" about this?
Really, this is no different from managers, company directors etc. who achieve nothing, or even drive companies bankrupt, yet still manage to obtain the next job to fuck up.
What the hell is up with these people?
Oh btw, any story on slashdot that somehow mentions Microsoft should automatically be assigned a non-removable tag: f*ckmicrosoft.
And finally: What's with the (extremely annoying) capitalisation of each word in a headline on Slashdot and many other places? That's bad practice and makes sentences (headlines too) less readable.
While browsing the M$ Internet, I received a STOP Error, that was when the helpful paper clip told me to reboot my routers.
I wonder if any of the brass that signed off on this are having second thoughts after the Danger incident earlier this week. Or will "Oh shit, we lost all the data" be a good excuse the next time they can't find incriminating emails?
Also, apparently institutional memory only lasts for about 10 years in the military, because they've clearly forgotten about the USS Yorktown in 1998...
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/1998/07/13987
It was fun while it lasted. This is the end ...
Asking Microsoft to help with security is like asking Jessica Simpson for advice on staying out of the spotlight.
Table-ized A.I.
Considering the rates that companies like Lockheed charge, it'll burn through the $31M in no time. My guess is that what they'll do is take IPv6 and see if they can make it cooler for the military instead of reinventing the wheel.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/newstradamus-reports-navy-nailed-virus Nuff said really
its bound to end up being one big cluster fornication.
Our cyberspace enemies should be rejoicing at this news.
The taxpayer will pay for it, it will look great on paper but be overly complicated ($31m buys a lot of unnecessary engineering), Microsoft and Lockheed will patent it, they'll market the hell out of it, and they'll create a slow and buggy Windows implementation with Microsoft-proprietary "enhancements" that make it non-interoperable.
Then industry is going to settle on something different because the standard is patent-encumbered, too complicated, and doesn't work right anyway.
This is the WORST thing to EVERY happen.
I'm sorry, the devil is at work here, Microsoft to implement an international "secure" networking protocol? We are indeed doomed. Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, burn in hell. In God we trust.
With Microsoft's help?
ROTFLMAO!
I guess it'll be based on their new protocol code-named "Oxymoron".
You can bet they can't resist the urge to patent everything they touch -- both Microsoft and Lockheed. And while they may or may not be allowable at the moment, there's nothing to say they couldn't renegotiate to enable charging patent rights in lieu of direct payment. You know, sort of how George Lucas did with Star Wars and marketing rights?
My tax dollars are going to Microsoft? Oh god, I feel I am going to be ill.
'improved security,'
Like IPSec? Don't fix the network layer, that's pointless. Fix the application layer - run it through TLS or similar if you must.
'dynamic bandwidth allocation,'
Like RSVP on an MPLS circuit? Or like DiffServ?
'policy-based prioritization levels at the individual and unit level.'"
Like CoS?
Seriously, all this has been thought of before - and we ended up with CLNA, IS-IS and networks so complicated it never took off - instead, IP took off because it was easy to use and easy to route.
If we're going to change IPv4 for anything, it should be IPv6 - it's easy to understand, easy to read, easy to process and best of all - ready to use *now*. Many ISPs already have it, and there's a crapload of Usenet traffic/BitTorrent that already goes via v6.
"...which will differ from old hat such as TCP/IP in that it will offer 'improved security, dynamic bandwidth allocation, and policy-based prioritization levels at the individual and unit level."
So, in other words, someone will spend over $30 million to finally implement IPv6?
Bravo, gentlemen, bravo.
Who in their right mind would put Microsoft on the same project as anything even remotely adjacent to the security realm? Congrats to American enemies who now will have a swell time if it ever comes to cyber warfare. Americans, not so lucky.
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Will not use it until at least SP1 is released.
And all the tech support will be handled by someone in Bangalore who has never seen the system and who just scraped 5.0 on IELTS.
...the Military has determined in it's infinite wisdom that the dedicated and encrypted NIPRnet and SIPRnet networks already in place have been instantly deemed "mil-crap"(tech jargon), and since the taxpayers are paying for it, justification came down swiftly and thus summarized(layman's terms) as "what the hell, why not, it's only money, right?"
Their job process really blows though. Unless you know someone or are part of some contract changeover (from SAIC to Lockheed-Martin for example), I don't see how you could get a job.
I've had my resume in their HR database for 10 years now, making updates as I change duties and jobs. I've worked in IT at Johns Hopkins APL, NASA, IBM, and now at a smaller but very interesting telecom type company and never had a single query from Lockheed-Martin.
[John]
Shit better not happen!
IMHO, the more big projects that go to MS the sooner the rest of the world will realize the MS stack is not appropriate for production use beyond some relatively small scale.
Microsoft, from all people?
Microsoft and Lockheed Martin been partners on high-profile military projects for at least the last ten years:
The alliance builds on existing relationships between Lockheed Martin and Microsoft on projects including the U.S. Air Force Integrated Space Command and Control (ISC2) program, a comprehensive upgrade of the North American Air Defense (NORAD) Cheyenne Mountain Complex; the integrated warfare system for the U.S. Navy's next nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, CVN 77; the Global Command Support System-Air Force; and the U.S. Defense Department's Defense Messaging System. The companies also are members of the Blue Team, which is competing for the Navy's next-generation land attack destroyer, DD 21 Lockheed Martin, Microsoft Form Alliance Focused on U.S. Government Market [May 24, 2001]
The Blue Team lost on what would become the DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class - Multimission Destroyer.
CVN-77 is the tenth and last of the Nimitz class super-carriers, the USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77)
Microsoft has announced two more partnering agreements with large training and simulation companies for its recently unveiled Microsoft ESP visual simulation platform.
Lockheed Martin and FlightSafety International both will use ESP as part of their efforts to lower costs in their simulation on aircrew training. Those companies join Northrop Grumman and SAIC as large integrators who have joined with Microsoft on use of ESP, which was announced in November and became available Jan. 1. Lockheed Martin, FlightSafety to use Microsoft ESP platform [February 21, 2008]
His server software is horrible bad!
Lockheed would seem to disagree: Microsoft Case Studies: Lockheed Martin gains Enterprise-class capabilities with SAP on Windows, SQL Server [July 20, 2009]
This will end well
Ahh....LMCO does outsource there IT department...to a company called CSC (Computer Science Corp)...there really is only a small percent of employee's that work for LMCO IT EIO services...I used to work for them and most likely know the guys that will be working on this project.
Will they hire Al Gore to help (re)invent the internet?
...is that this is something the US was planning to smuggle INTO China and Russia...
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Lockheed Martin has failed miserably in the past at completing any sort of IT projects. There are so many IT project carcasses laying around now with losses in the billions that it is sad. But somehow they keep winning contracts. Can't be because of their performance! Don't forget they are throwing Microsoft in there also!
Microsoft is a fungus, and therefore is technically alive.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
God help us all.
Moving away from that brain fart of a title for a moment, would it be possible that it is not Micro$oft per say, but Microsoft Research, the research branch, that will be involved in this? If that were the case (considering the caliber of researchers that they have there), then I could see good things coming.
But if it is Micro$oft, the products division, then, hmmmm, we'll be seeing data packets with executable vbscript in them (yikes!)
Any sufficiently complicated network will contain an buggy, slow, incomplete implementation of TCP/IP.
"I will trust Google to 'do no evil' until the founders no longer run it." Hello Alphabet.
In other words, 'we are going to stamp out p2p once and for all... ya damned pirates'
---- Booth was a patriot ----
So what's up with all the holes that still exists in XP, Vista and now Win7?
Or at least tagged appropriately?
Idiotic plan that is doomed to fail, and take 30 million with it (if not more).
Firstly, there are countless programs in use which are hard coded to use TCP. You don't have the source code for all of them. They make calls to the socket API, with hard-coded values to use IPv4 TCP. Even if you swizzle these at the shared library or kernel level to use a TCP replacement, it better have identical semantics in all of the calls, or the programs will break.
Like, first prove that a network of significant size can be fully converted to IPv6, which exists already! Then talk about grand visions about a whole new kind of network.
The users will hate this incompatible network and just probably just tunnel TCP and IP through it, which will basically turn it into a glorified VPN.
Users don't want a new kind of internet that doesn't work with their existing operating systems and applications. (Even if they are in the military). You can order the military men to use whatever you want, but you can't order productivity out of them.
We already have secure sockets, VPNs and all that stuff.
About dynamic bandwidth allocation: it's naive to think that you need a whole new kind of internet for that. This can be handled in the backbone by intelligent routing devices over the existing protocols.
Deep packet inspection can associate traffic to a subscriber and apply the appropriate quality of service policy to allocate bandwidth. Individual virtual circuits can be similarly identified, associated to a subscriber and subject to prioritization, in real time, as they come up and down.
The company I work for is in this business.
www.zeugmasystems.com
Invest 30 million in us, not these jokers!
Trumpet Winsock?
SMB over NetBIOS?
'Nuff said.
I also work for Lockheed. Interesting fact: my team's standard IDE just got upgraded from vi to vim last week. No Joke.
Having your resume in the HR database is the bottom of the recruiting barrel. You want a job? Apply for something specific. Just maybe not now, last I heard there was a hiring freeze over most units.
This quote also applies to TCP/IP. 31 million is not enough money for someone like Lockheed to do anything notable except maybe come up with some router policies and require SSL on every link or something. They probably wouldn't even be able to properly tackle the interminable key distribution problems with a system like that.
I read the internet for the articles.
Easy: big button labeled "start"
Read what I mean, not what I wrote.
It's actually quite a good system, and I really don't think they're going to want to replace all that any time in the next few years.
I would worry a bit about transitioning to anything more complex than what exists already.
Currently, the training for enlisted soldiers who will be the operator/maintainers of the JNN & SSSv3 is 39 weeks long (up from 25). Even with this length of training, there is a lot to be desired. The General Dynamics trainers at the signal school at Ft. Gordon are retired senior NCO's (>E6), but not one has actually used the JNN in the Army. Their experience is all with the old circuit switched comms gear. Knowledge of basic computer networking is seriously lacking for many. So, the end result is that soldiers spend more time learning the maximum length of a CX-11230 cable, memorizing the location of each jack on the signal entry panels, and mopping the floors of the school than actually using the equipment. When soldiers do actually use the gear, it's 100% scripted. The soldiers read the commands off a "cut sheet" and enter them verbatim into the command prompt.
With this level of training, anything more complex than TCP/IP is going to be a no-go unless it's implemented in a very transparent way to the operators.
well.. you don't work for Lockheed anymore... ; P
Hope is the currency of fools
Seriously, it's been around for some time now, and it wouldn't require much to change in the application side.
Hmmmm...Lockheed Martin.....hmmmm...aren't they the guys that did that Raptor jet, the multi-billion model that shuts down everytime they try to fly past the International Dateline?
Hmmm.....Lockheed Martin....hmmmm....aren't they the guys responsible for those incredible automated stamp vending machines that used to be in the Post Offices, but had to be replaced with another type as they were always breaking down?
Hmmm...Lockheed Martin...hmmmm...don't they own Pacific Architects and Engineers; that private military company responsible for so much havoc in Africa??
Because when they begin charging $2,000 per replacement wrench, it's going to appear might fishy.......
As soon as I heard Microsoft, I could only imagine this thing going downhill.
Well, there goes the Internet. With Microsx behind it nobody will be allowed to use it for free, no standards will be followed, protocols will change daily.
"New network threats and attacks require revolutionary protection concepts," said Lockheed cyber-arsenal chieftain John Mengucci. "Through this project, as well as our cyber Mission Maker initiatives, we are working to enhance cyber security and ensure that warfighters can fight on despite cyber attacks."
John Mengucci (the cyber-arsenal chieftain! rofl) obviously has no clue what he is talking about given the phrasing he chose to use (omgz! cyber attacks are stopping our warfighters! deploy the cyber defense!) . My guess is MS fed him, the rest of LM, and the US gov this marketese, they fell for it, and now the Internet will become Microsoft's subservient bitch. This is a for-profit move, not a for-security, for-consumer, or for-technology move. We, as tax payers, are paying for Microsoft and LM's research and development under the premise of war. Why is this acceptable to the US people? Are we a war-mongering society? Yes, but should we be? No! When will the US start innovating in the name of peace, instead of war? Can we please just GROW THE FUCK UP and stop thinking that war is a normal, unavoidable part of society?
And to end my tirade: Lockeed-Martin are the merchants of Death. No company should profit solely on war. Think about it: its in their best interest that there is always war... You think lobbyists in Washington are bad, what about the lobbyists in Iraq? Why has there always been some conflict somewhere in the world post WWII? Because its profitable and completely legal. People are making money off of death. This is not okay.
Maybe a new multipurpose communication protocol to roll SMTP/HTTP/FTP/VOIP/whatever into one?
Why? What purpose would be served by doing this?
I can imagine an easy way of doing it: the first message from the client is the name of the protocol the client and server will be speaking for the remainder of the session. The rest will be protocol messages from that protocol. Implement this using an array of function pointers (or a big switch). ... but why? What do these applications have in common? What's the advantage of rolling the protocols into one? Delivering mail is vastly different from serving web pages. Why should every web server also contain the dirty business logic of pushing out mail?
I'll grant that serving web pages contains as a sub-task that of serving files, so maybe we can do away with ftp (haven't we already?), but what else can realistically be merged?
I've worked for defense department contractors in the past 12 years and $31 million is not enough money to produce anything useful. Most Defense Contractors including LM have so much bureaucracy and process, therefore average about 10 managers and none technical persons for every 2 Software engineers. This seems to be the beginning of another Future Combat Systems (FCS) program.
When I read this my first thought was what does lockheed know about networks. In most government projects you put together a team based on different needs of the project, one of which I'm sure is just company capita. ie implimentation and support.
Fuck the military-industrial complex and give the money back to the people!
From the freaking article: "Lockheed Martin's team will develop router technologies that include strong authentication and self configuration capabilities to improve security, reduce the need for trained network personnel and lower overall life cycle costs for network management."
I doubt they are trying to reinvent tcpip at all, but rather working at the router level to secure router-router communications and simplify configuration and management. In all likelyhood, they will simply implement existing protocols in a consistent manner. The bulk of the security issues in the military is due to poor configuration management and lack of properly skilled guys setting up and managing networks. It's no wonder the Chinese have a nearly free run of the DOD networks right now. Step number one should be to unplug the DOD networks from the Internet.
If this project works like any other defense contract, the goal is always to bid low and sell high and always ask for more money for "research".
They have 6 well-fed pigs at the trough (LHM, Microsoft and co.) . They have $31 million to spend. There's going to be a slew of engineers and managers from each company working on the project. Each company will believe their solution is better which will require more money to research. They get more money but can't settle on differences, more money to settle on that. I'll stop. I don't want to feed them more ideas. You can hire me though. I've no idea what I'm doing, so I'll do a great job of increasing your budgets.
And when its all settled and settled :) I reckon the final tally will be many times the $31 mil.
Should I laugh now, or later. Hehe I made my login on Slashdot just to say that; After I have been watching it for years. DARPA, DARPA, offend thy maker.
First Obama's UN speech and now the military using Microsoft.. this country truly is in serious trouble.
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
Reinventing the internet. New tubes! NetBeui 2.0, now with DRM! Oh boy, I can't wait!
Not all DARPA projects are equal. And MS has a very long history of never ever doing anything that is open or usuable or on time or bug free.
Just because X got a good result, doesn't mean Y isn't a pork project.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
The military basically says, I need a plane that can go at least mach 2, can carry X number of pounds of air to ground or air to air weapons, has X% stealth capability, has a range of X miles, can land on a aircraft carrier, etc., etc... and costs about X dollars.
Wow, I'd like to see the value of X that can fit all of those parameters!
Simple. Let X = 0. Compute. Result = 0.
TCP/IP may have issues but any format will. You cant send data across networks and not have the chance of it being read unless the network is closed. That is like saying you are going to build a new pigeon who is more secure who will deliver your message. Also any criminal who gets there hands on a government laptop and password can just login and bypass all that security anyway (I think that has happened a few times over the last few years). Security comes down to training the humans to use computers securly, no technology will replace that.
I had a much longer comment but it disappeared in the slashdot servers. Basically its the users not tcpip that make things unsecure.
This Internet reinvention will be hot in communist China
"..but how can you expect to win the Internet war if you have no idea how it works and all the security and protocols are outsourced."
Sadly, you have asked a serious-sounding question so I shall respond in kind. This may be difficult for you - and I'm not criticizing your intelligence level here - but the question indicates you are still residing in the matrix, which in America, one would place you as paying serious attention to either Fox, NPR or the like, all Bernays-engineered engines of propaganda.
It has never been about winning the Internet war, that is all the usual smokescreen to keep various types, outfits and organizations occupied with the nebulous. It is about control of the Internet, which has been subtly taking place over the past few years. Whether it is the privatization of all those telecoms (just check into the private equity firms which own ALL of those privatized telecoms, i.e., Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group, KKR, Citadel, etc., etc.) as well as the slowing down of certain types of traffic lately, and the implementation of those Narus boxes, which has happened throughout North America, Europe and the Middle East, etc.
Politically, they are reframing and confusing this situation they way they handle all others, such as pitting people in the Anti-abortion against those in the Pro-choice, while always keeping it a constant battle (hence all those single-issue types); and keeping Gays and Lesbians occupied by always promising the granting of normal citizen's rights (marriage, military service to support the American Empire, etc.).
Perhaps I'm just not clueful enough. I'd find jobs on Dice.com that Lockheed-Martin posted, click to apply and it sends me to the HR site where I have to upload or update my resume in the database. There isn't anything on the site to identify which job I'm applying for and no other contact information in the Dice job description.
[John]
Shit better not happen!