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$300 Sci-Fi YouTube Video Lands $30m Movie Deal

krou writes "A producer from Uruguay who made a short science fiction film and uploaded it to YouTube has landed a film deal with Sam Raimi's Ghost House worth $300 million. The film, which shows spaceships and giant robots attacking Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay, was made by Fede Alvarez for around $30. 'I uploaded (Panic Attack!) on a Thursday and on Monday my inbox was totally full of e-mails from Hollywood studios,' he said. Alvarez is to develop and direct a film based on one of his ideas, but there is no word yet on the writer."

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  1. About time by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

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    1. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Welcome to 1999 friend!

    2. Re:About time by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny
      First hint that Hollywood is turning to new sources.

      I hate it when robots attack Montevideo. Especially during soccer season.

    3. Re:About time by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

      I call shenanigans

      I uploaded several adult vids and I have yet to hear from the pr0n industry

    4. Re:About time by Necroloth · · Score: 2, Insightful
      turning to other sources weren't things Hollywood did before?

      and why complain where they get their ideas if it is a good film?

      For me, this is just an example of it becoming easier for smaller artists/designers/producers etc to be able to show themselves on the world stage, nothing more.

    5. Re:About time by Smegly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Proof that Hollywood has a lot more more to fear from this trend on the internet than than just copyright infringement... the more amateur file makers gain recognition and rewards - the better quality their films will become. Diluting eyeballs and eroding profit margins for Hollywood. Yay!

    6. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think it's fair to say that Sam Raimi was ever part of the "Hollywood problem". He will do just about anything, as long as he thinks it will be entertaining. He has done:

      The Evil Dead and its sequels
      Dark Man
      Timecop
      Hercules, the Legendary Journeys
      Xena
      MANTIS
      The Hudsucker Proxy
      Legend of the Seeker
      American Gothic

      Sam Raimi's work might not be on Bergman's level, but he has definitely introduced a style of his own into film and television. He has been asked to work for the modern comic book movies, because he basically invented the format of a modern comic book movie with the Evil Dead and Dark Man.

    7. Re:About time by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it was a bad thing. Personally, I think it's about time Hollywood recognized that following the same formulas results in the same bad movies.

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    8. Re:About time by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      What? Other than FX, which hollywood is pretty good at, what exactly does this film show?

    9. Re:About time by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      if means less remakes of second rate movies i'm all for it.

    10. Re:About time by TheLinuxSRC · · Score: 4, Funny

      No offense, but maybe you should not have cast yourself in the lead role?

    11. Re:About time by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Eh.. there's really no new ideas in the YouTube clip. If anything, it's a remake of every other urban destruction movie, but the quality is at least on par with big-budget TV effects. Of course, I'm not sure what Hollywood is expecting from him... there's a big difference between producing your own digital video, and herding a bunch of catty actors while trying to supervise the CGI artists, camera men, editors, etc. and still effectively conveying the story. Someone else's story no less, according to TFA.

    12. Re:About time by alexhard · · Score: 2, Informative

      A cgi bonanza with an annoying shakeycam and no acting. Truly original, and exactly what Hollywood needs to renew itself!

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    13. Re:About time by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I don't see how this sort of thing isn't a positive development. The filmmaker who made this short is obviously talented. It's not just that the special effects are impressive for such a small budget, but the whole thing is shot pretty well.

      I mean, this is kind of what should be happening, right? The movie industry finds talented filmmakers and gives them a chance to work on bigger projects?

    14. Re:About time by alen · · Score: 1

      almost every movie ever made has been based on another work

    15. Re:About time by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not? He only needed a 30-second video.

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    16. Re:About time by westlake · · Score: 1

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Giant alien machines destroy a great city:

      H.G. Wells The War of the Worlds,1898.
      Radio adaption for Orson Welle's Mercury Theater of the Air, 1938.
      Film adaption by George Pal, 1953.
      Radio adaptation by WKBW, Buffalo, New York., 1968.
      Staged live using live remotes. State-of-the-art tech for an independent AM radio station in the sixties.
      Musical adaptation by Jeff Wayne in 1978.

      Referenced countless times in every media from the bubble gum trading card to the CGI animated feature. [Monsters vs. Aliens, 2008]

    17. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Oh yeah, I like this new "giant monster/robot/aliens/artifact attacks city, while destroying landmarks in a cool way" idea. It's amazing no one has made a movie about it yet.

      I'm pretty sure they didn't hire the guy to write scripts for them. He's instead very talented in vfx/direction/photography (and I wish him all the luck and success!), and by the way, the reason everyone flocks to this kind of people now is because of District 9. Hollywood likes to try and replicate success based on superficial features they detect in other successful project.

    18. Re:About time by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What? Other than FX, which hollywood is pretty good at, what exactly does this film show?

      That at least one of the barriers to market entry (the cost of producing good FX) is much lower than many people expect. Lower barriers to market entry mean more competition, potentially, which could be good for us lazy consumers either through lowering the cost of our entertainment or, preferably, increasing the variety of it.

      Why might it improve variety? Good FX this cheap means there is one less thing standing between some impoverished writer/directer with good ideas and opportunities for him/her to see those ideas brought to fruition without having to involve the big money people who will panel beat the ideas into a lifeless mush designed not to put off any of the lowest common denominator audience by asking them to think and/or feel something they haven't thought/felt many times before from watching the homogenised output the industry is often lambasted for. The FX don't need to be giant robots - if things keep moving this way (and I don't see why they shouldn't) in the near future anyone with the right ideas+talent+time could create a full CGI production (removing set and sound studio expenses and reducing casting issues) of any type, not just SciFi/fantasy.

      In short, this guy has achieved something impressive on a very low budget. Given his achievement, even while accepting it isn't perfect by any means, don't you wonder what he and/or other people could do in future with more time+budget?

    19. Re:About time by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah... enemies from space destroying earth. That's new.

      Different people, same old ideas.

    20. Re:About time by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      So what's the script for the other 21.3 seconds?

    21. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Oh please! What's original? There's no story it's just scenes out of things like Independence Day/V and Sky Captain. Where's the original? The $300 is bull as well. It'd take a 100X that in hardware and software and no one got paid. The guy had the know how and access to hardware and software same as the slicker fan films. Since he didn't bother to tell a story it's highly unlikely there will be one in the final film. A hispanic Jerry Bruckheimer, yeah that's original! I wish it was inventive. What the new crop of filmmakers are is instead of insiders cannibalizing old movies foreign filmmakers are getting Hollywood money to do it.

    22. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... But someone had to be the receiver!

    23. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there's your problem right there. The "pr0n industry" isn't Hollywood, it's the San Fernando Valley.

    24. Re:About time by silverspell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indeed, and you should meet her -- perfect figure, great listener, up for anything. She's a real doll.

    25. Re:About time by neophytepwner · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

    26. Re:About time by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Around my friends “Hollywood“ already is a term, used to put a bad association onto something. It often is used synonymous to “plastic fantastic”. We try to avoid anything too close to that, out of experience.

      I mean things like Scooby Doo, Hellboy, G.I. Joe, Fantastic Four, and everything targeted to young girls. Those really-low-level-humor movies, with bad masks, belly-laugh toilet humor, etc also belong there.

      Of course there are still great things coming from Hollywood. So it’s really more the “mainstream trash“ that we avoid. The Britney Spears of movies.

      Of course, there is the other extreme, with “artsy” movies, that really are just bad movies, and lack the essential “this is great” of good art.

      But in there between, there still are some highlights. Like Inglorious Basterds, Avatar*, WALL-E, Idiocracy, or back then, Fight Club and Matrix. Although I agree, that the number of new great movies has gotten really really small.

      But hey, they make more money than ever before, according to their own numbers.

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    27. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is the idiot that wrote this was made for $300??? What a lie. This was not made for $300. I am a pro TV/GFX editor. I mean great film and congrats on hollywood deal, but do not rub it in our faces. Be honest, you've been working on this for the last 3 years of your life, and all the people that helped you. "Apataro Post?" And no time is free. Look at all the "special thanks" credits. This is a $300,000 project all in and you know it. You want us to believe you made this on your laptop while pulling bong hits? Stop lying. Now go make your movie.

    28. Re:About time by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      Xena, Hercules - best shows ever produced for television.

      Hudsucker Proxy - very funny.

      You also forgot to mention he directed SpiderMan 1,2,3, co-wrote SpiderMan3, and SpiderMan4 is in production. All excellent and entertaining movies.

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    29. Re:About time by jebrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Credits...lots of people to thank and all that

    30. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turn to new sources? Robots blowing up a city? That's um... not new at all.

    31. Re:About time by davester666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't think I want to watch if he thanks anybody in his immediate family except maybe his sister, and then only if she's hot...

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    32. Re:About time by KOTMATPOCKUH · · Score: 1

      isn't every "new" movie is just a remake of something 20-40 years old anyway?

    33. Re:About time by fedos · · Score: 1

      almost every idea ever has been based on another idea

      Fixed that for you.

    34. Re:About time by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

      this is just an example of it becoming easier for smaller artists/designers/producers etc to be able to show themselves on the world stage, nothing more.

      I agree with that.

      Yo Fede, if you need a composer, I promise I wouldn't take up too much of your $30MM budget.

    35. Re:About time by znerk · · Score: 1

      For me, this is just an example of it becoming easier for smaller artists/designers/producers etc to be able to show themselves on the world stage, nothing more.

      I've got something more...
      This dude makes a video of killer robots attacking and destroying a major metropolis... for $300. Why are all these other movies with spectacular special effects costing hundreds of millions of dollars to make?

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    36. Re:About time by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      He was trying to cut costs and played all roles himself.

    37. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Mom, for example.

    38. Re:About time by BabyDuckHat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Executives aren't free dude.

    39. Re:About time by arose · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the $300 probably doesn't include the time he put into it.

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    40. Re:About time by WidgetGuy · · Score: 1

      The video is so obviously amateurish that one has to wonder if this isn't some studio hoax. Maybe to test certain viral marketing pathways, such as /.

      Granted, for $300, it was a very clever amateur production. But, Hollywood doesn't usually pony up $30M development deals for something that is simply clever in an area (special effects) where they have well-established ways to achieve a much better result using known sources.

      You need to understand the nature of these Hollywood development deals. The contracts for these things give the studios about 1,000 ways to dump the deal in a heartbeat with absolutely no fear of legal action by the other party. Ninety-nine percent of these deals never get out of the development phase and are typically canceled well before even 1% of the total "budget" has been spent.

      As others have pointed out, there is no real story here (other than monsters trash big city, citizen's run screaming just before they are crushed or vaporized by the monsters). It's, basically, a "see what I can do with cheap special effects" demo.

      Compare this effort with the plot and special effects used for an Outer Limits (original B&W series) episode that probably cost well under $100,000 total (1960's USDs).

      The story opens with an old woman sitting alone in a house (probably a farmhouse) out in the middle of nowhere. Suddenly, there's a loud sound from above, like something has crashed through the roof of her home. Startled, she picks up a broom and slowly pulls down the ladder to the attic. She carefully peeks her head into the attic space. There, not three feet in front of her, is a flying saucer. A very tiny flying saucer. Just next to the flying saucer are a couple of even tinnier figures dressed in space suits. She quickly retreats back down the stairway in fear, shutting the ceiling door behind her. She is shaking. As she is trying to decide what to do, she can hear different noises coming from the attic. In her state of near panic, these noises seem to be getting more frequent and louder (it sounds like the aliens are using a radio to contact other aliens). Finally, she decides to do what the audience has all along been hoping she would do: go on the offensive. Armed with her trusty broom she again enters the attic. This time, though, she attempts to destroy the space craft and the little aliens by swatting at them with her broom stick. The aliens fight back by firing at her with some sort of laser weapon (there is never a closeup shot of the aliens or their flying saucer). These sting the woman but, otherwise, have little effect. Finally, she succeeds in crushing the space ship and, she believes, killing all of the little aliens. The audience cheers her victory! But, just as she is closing the attic door again, the audience hears one, final distress call from the alien ship's radio: "This is United States Starship Verdant. We've landed on a planet of giant humanoids. One has destroyed our spacecraft and killed most of us. Please send help!" End episode.

      The plastic space ship could have been purchased at the local Ben Franklin for under $10. The tiny aliens moved too realistically to have been artificially-generated with the technology back then, so I'm guessing they just shot those scenes from a distance using a special type of lens that would make the images seem even smaller. Every other physical item used in the filming was human-sized, garden-variety stuff. All they had to do to sell the special effects was to not shoot a closeup of the spaceship or its alien crew.

      Amazing what a little imagination can do, isn't it? Too bad Hollywood seems to equate "imagination" and "originality" with "high risk." .

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    41. Re:About time by realityimpaired · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It probably also doesn't include the cost of the render farm needed to render something like that for the big screen. There's a big difference in the number of pixels on a youtube video versus the number of pixels on the silver screen, and while his CGI was very good (better than I've seen even 5 years ago in some Hollywood-produced movies), the audiences have very high expectations for quality. If you're going to render the CGI for a feature-length film made for the big screen on a desktop computer, expect it to take a while.

      Making a movie costs so much money because of the time that gets put into it, because of the actors who feel justified asking $20m for a cameo appearance, and because of the cost of materials and publicity.

    42. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Including the stunt double, who just *happened to be more generously endowed.

    43. Re:About time by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Pumping up the actress.

    44. Re:About time by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 1

      Cloverfield had an estimated budget of $30 million and grossed $170,602,318.

    45. Re:About time by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      1:15 in this guy's case.

      I guess it's less if you don't count the "backstory" ...

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    46. Re:About time by fwarren · · Score: 1

      Lots of other costs as well.

      Some stuff makes sense, all the food is catered for those that work on a film? Why? Lets say we all eat at the various restaurants around town, and a major actor, a director and a few others get food sickness. That shuts the production down for 3 or 4 day. You still have to pay EVERYBODY on the set for those 4 days. It is just cheaper to have the food catered. Plus the caterers insurance is on the hook for lost wages if anything goes wrong.

      Another cost is union stuff. We could talk about all the good the unions do in the Movie business, but lets not, here is my cheap shot.

      The are about to shoot a bar scene, but the neon tavern sign is not plugged in. So they call a Union Electrician to come plug it in. It will take him 90 minutes to get there (the nearest town with a union Electrician is 60 minutes away on some remote shoots). So an extra walks over and plugs the sign in. Then a gaffer walks over and unplugs it. Now everyone goes back to waiting (and being paid) for 90 minutes of waiting for the electrician to show up

      No union in Hollywood will step on another unions feet. Some of it is really stupid, A directory who is not a member of the camera mans union can not look through the camera lens to set up a shot, he has to shoot and then look at the dailies. (shooting to video has helped with that).

      Lets mention a dirty little secret of the film industry. George Lucas does not shoot any film in the United States. He goes to far way places where the Union rules don't bother him.

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    47. Re:About time by PylonHead · · Score: 1

      If you're a fan of Michael Bay then it's a positive development. If you're not, then it's pretty much a non-event.

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    48. Re:About time by jacob1984 · · Score: 1

      This is not a bad thing. A friend of mine from church made a fantastic video (with no investment save what software he already had) about the Green Lantern. He's had 1.5 million views as well and has been in contact with numerous hollywood agencies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs Seeing a "preview" like this makes you want to GO SEE A MOVIE.

    49. Re:About time by malakai · · Score: 1

      It's running 1080p HD on youtube.

      Not to mention, because it's all captured digitally, and all the CGI is by definition digital, it's output format matters little. His raw 3ds max or whatever he used could be reprocessed to output in any format/resolution. Sure, at some point if he used really really shitty metal textures (instead of shader logic to emulate the metal at infinite resolutions) you might be able to spot a seam or a repeat of random noise.

      Either way, take what he has and render it already on someone's very large farm that was built and paid for with 2012 earnings == free to a studio. $30.00 == $300,000.00 for a studio. That's still 'free'. Anything south of 300k I bet a senior VP at a studio could sign off on w/o extra due diligence.

    50. Re:About time by baronvoncarson · · Score: 1

      I think this is a good thing too that they're looking to other sources. To be honest, the movies I enjoy today are ones with the unknown actors, not the big A list celebs you see all the time and generally play the same character every time.

    51. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your indignation is a poor mask for your envy.

    52. Re:About time by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Some would argue that FX is the only thing Hollywood is good at.

    53. Re:About time by orasio · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the "metropolis" status. Montevideo is a 1.5 million people city. It's real nice, but not a metropolis.

  2. $30 million by zn0k · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both articles mention $30 million, not $300 million.

    1. Re:$30 million by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Thanks,

      I read that and the first thing I thought was $300M doesn't sound like Raimi at all.

      I mean, isn't that about what he did the original Spider-Man for? It came across as way out of character to drop $300M for a movie.

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    2. Re:$30 million by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      I was going to say. Avatar, most expensive film, was just over 300 million. And that led by James Cameron, someone well known and respected. And 10+ years ago, they had waterworld, most expensive at $180 million by Kevin Costner, and they were crapping their pants.

      No way they'd give an unknown 300 million for something that vaguely resembles transformers/independence day. It's a decent film and all, but.

      I also get tired of films "costing" $300, or there was a story of a decent zombie flick costing $70. Maybe it started with Blair Witch costing around $10,000 for this race to the bottom - but a house built with donated labor and materials by Habitat for Humanity isn't just a $500 project just because $500 was stuck into it by the end producers - it took more than $500 of resources even if said economic resources were given away that one time and that's obvious with this film as well. Just the computer work alone, unless time costs $0.

    3. Re:$30 million by krou · · Score: 1

      Oops, my bad. Sorry about that. I think I need better eyes.

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    4. Re:$30 million by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 1

      They probably just confused the currency with the dollar from 10 years ago..

      Mocking aside, $300m is really improbable and probably wrongly quoted by someone that had a stressed day and therefore hit one unimportant zero too much.

      As for resemblance, it's more like a hybrid of "Sky captain and the world of tomorrow" and the game "Supreme commander".

      Your third paragraph is a gem though. Yea, he probably spent months if not years on the CG as hobby project. Also contributions and the basic ability to create such things are not really that easily put on a tab. If you'd try to create that short clip (exactly as it is) in a western society, than you'd be at several thousand (if not tens of thousands).

      Guess that's the 'small' margin between inspiration and profit.

      p.s. @ Hollywood: I know you screwed over all your writers and they are mad at you, but please try to find someone that creates a decent story for the next SciFi thing.. I get the feeling it's already decades ago..

    5. Re:$30 million by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      That will be enough to pay for one superstar to sit on a stool and be filmed for 90 minutes.

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    6. Re:$30 million by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      Both articles mention $30 million, not $300 million.

      Zero means nothing, so an extra zero means nothing.

    7. Re:$30 million by chromas · · Score: 2, Funny

      He gets $300 million if he can spend the the entire 30m within a month.

    8. Re:$30 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe their main backer is Verizon, and the contract was written up in cents.

    9. Re:$30 million by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 1

      Mocking aside, $300m is really improbable and probably wrongly quoted by someone that had a stressed day and therefore hit one unimportant zero too much.

      ZOMG!!@(* Unknow director get $300 bazollion movee deel!!!!!

  3. $30 million, not $300 million by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Still impressive to say the least, but the summary is wrong. It's a $30 million movie deal.

    1. Re:$30 million, not $300 million by jittles · · Score: 1

      Yeah $30M goes a long way in Uruguay!

  4. His original post by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

    He posted his video in Taringa! and from there he became famous. Original post at taringa.net

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    1. Re:His original post by aBaldrich · · Score: 5, Informative

      I forgot to say, the guy the most well known TV publicity director in Uruguay; this is not just a "youtube video". His official website is http://www.aparato.tv/

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  5. Wrong title by arkham6 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Thats 30 million, not 300 million.

    My BS alarm was going off at 300 mil, so I had to go RTFA.

  6. Congratulations! by realsilly · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just remember to Bit Torrent the final version for us someday.

    _> >_

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  7. Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie before. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called Independence Day

  8. Well worth watching by cruff · · Score: 1

    If he did this for about $300, its really amazing. The CGI is really nicely done.

    1. Re:Well worth watching by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it's a big studio viral hoax.

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    2. Re:Well worth watching by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

      Im sorry to tell you but argentine and uruguayan press think it is real.

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    3. Re:Well worth watching by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm curious how he pulled it off. Is it with pirated software and paying his crew 100 pesos a day?

    4. Re:Well worth watching by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm curious how he pulled it off. Is it with pirated software and paying his crew 100 pesos a day?

      He's in South American so using "pirated" software as you call it is perfectly acceptable.

      What I wonder about is why Hollywood just didn't steal his idea they they normally do.

    5. Re:Well worth watching by tixxit · · Score: 1

      2 reasons, I imagine:
      1) Random video on YouTube becoming a $30m Hollywood movie is great publicity.
      2) You can copy software, books, music and ideas, but you can't copy the talent that created them.

    6. Re:Well worth watching by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh, I clicked one of those hoping that the media had thought the attack was real, War of the Worlds style.

      Too bad.

    7. Re:Well worth watching by Nos. · · Score: 1

      A couple boards on my deck are loose and I need to tighten some screws and replace a board. Did the project cost me $205, or $5? The drill cost $100, but then again, I had it before I fixed the deck, and I have it after. My hourly wage at work is $50 and it took me 2 hours. Then again, it was the weekend and my employer wasn't paying me. The replacement board cost $5. It was the only thing consumed during the process. So what did that project cost?

      The way I look at is this, what, out of pocket expenses did he have to pay? I know next to nothing about making movies. I have no experience what so ever in special effects, cameras, etc. Yet I can see someone who has an interest in this field already having *most* of what they would need to make a five minute video like this. I could certainly gather a few friends that would be willing to play the role of extras. I have a digital camera that might work, but I have family with a decent off the shelf HD camcorder. I have plenty of computers that I could use to do the special effects. The only thing missing is software to do special effects, but I'm under the impression there are some free ones out there, but again, I don't really know.

    8. Re:Well worth watching by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      1) Random video on YouTube becoming a $30m Hollywood movie is great publicity.
      2) You can copy software, books, music and ideas, but you can't copy the talent that created them.

      Point 1 - taken.
      Point 2 - taken but someone needs to let Hollywood executives in on that little secret.

      That really is an amazing piece of work for someone to come up with on their own!

  9. Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 5, Funny

    Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

    It's not even new - it's "War of the Worlds" and "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" mixed together.

    The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

    Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.

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    1. Re:Not a new idea by Issarlk · · Score: 1

      The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

      So... what's your point?

    2. Re:Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

      So... what's your point?

      It has no story. Aliens or robots kill humans is not a story and it's been done to death.

      It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo.

      I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.

      I can't think of any other way to put it.

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    3. Re:Not a new idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? It was to show off his effects skills, not writing. What, unless you're a writer, you can't make a video to show your skills? So, a dancer or martial artist needs a story to make a video showing their talent? How about a video to show what a jealous, loser you are?

    4. Re:Not a new idea by ae1294 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but, but, he got a movie deal out of it and only spent $300 bucks? what have you done lately?

    5. Re:Not a new idea by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What development do you want him to do in a 5 minute piece?

      I guess if his goal was to impress you with his storytelling ability he failed, but if it was to advertise his vision to Hollywood, he succeeded.

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    6. Re:Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I've seen people tell a story with a still photo.

      Otherwise, point taken.

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    7. Re:Not a new idea by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo.

      Exactly. The special effects rocked. So... what's you're point?

    8. Re:Not a new idea by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      It's not even new - it's "War of the Worlds" and "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" mixed together.

      The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

      Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.

      Mod parent up and GP down. It's very nicely done, but the only "good idea" here is having the robots attack South America instead of North America this time. Clearly he was doing a tech demo tribute to several large (and mediocre) recent Hollywood movies.

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    9. Re:Not a new idea by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.

      Which may be why he was offered a deal to direct while they find another writer.

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    10. Re:Not a new idea by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I want to know how much money _net_ he'll get out of the deal after the Hollywood Accounting is done.

      Stan Lee, Peter Jackson and many others had trouble getting their alleged fair share of the $$$ from Hollywood.

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    11. Re:Not a new idea by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Well, I recently got back from the other end of the galaxy after being flung through a wormhole.

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    12. Re:Not a new idea by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Well, I recently got back from the other end of the galaxy after being flung through a wormhole.

      John Crichton is that you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farscape

    13. Re:Not a new idea by ae1294 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've seen people tell a story with a still photo.

      Yes I agree but I've seen really bad movies that are overflowing with plot holes, such as Transformers 2, gross 832,747,337 worldwide making it the third-highest grossing film of 2009 as of October 13, 2009. Hollywood is not an Artistic consortium.

      Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_2

    14. Re:Not a new idea by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Perhaps some plausible reason why the robots didn't do their little nuclear detonation from the get-go? Why risk all the flying craft?

    15. Re:Not a new idea by nacturation · · Score: 1

      The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh. Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.

      I thought it showed a lot of potential when the robots hunkered down and shielded themselves. Rather than subsequently explode, that could have made an interesting "WTF are they doing?" plot point which could have been expanded upon. I don't have any unique ideas in this regards, but things that have been done before would include "only certain people allowed in", "Earth preservation for your own good", and so on. As soon as it exploded though, yeah... definitely a meh story. They could have nuked it from orbit, just to be sure.

      But hey... cast Milla Jovovich and I might go see it. :)

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    16. Re:Not a new idea by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 1

      I want to know how much money _net_ he'll get out of the deal after the Hollywood Accounting is done.

      He'll double his initial $300 investment.

    17. Re:Not a new idea by secretcurse · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.

      Wait, when did we start talking about George Lucas?

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    18. Re:Not a new idea by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      Their economy was kicking the bucket, and lots of pilots = more jobs

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    19. Re:Not a new idea by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      "It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo. I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability."

      Hollywood had no choice really. They've been pumping out crap for years and making $100 million and this guy comes along and gives away free crap. If we found out we could get the same crap for free what would happen to hollywood?

      I'm sure they considered a hit man but figured it would be cheaper to hire him.

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    20. Re:Not a new idea by fabioalcor · · Score: 1

      I think the movie have visual and sound effects, climate and music totally perfect for a Half Life movie.
      Furthermore, for a Half Life movie the story is already done.

    21. Re:Not a new idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Around here? When did we stop?

    22. Re:Not a new idea by Larryish · · Score: 1, Troll

      Hollywood is not an Artistic consortium.

      And Fox News is not a reputable news source.

      They both serve the same market... stupid people. And stupid people buy more stuff.

    23. Re:Not a new idea by PriyanPhoenix · · Score: 1

      I think there is a valid point underneath which is that he has shown off some great effects skills and thoroughly deserves a chance at a high-end effects job in Hollywood. That doesn't necessarily mean he should be given $30m to *direct* a film...

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    24. Re:Not a new idea by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Well the post that started this thread was pointing out that this is proof of Hollywood running out of ideas, which certainly isn't helped by the fact that this $300 movie is standard Hollywood fare. Who knows, maybe the dude will make an awesome movie with a great plot, but that is not what he got hired for (if this short movie really was the reason he got the deal).

  10. They could have saved a lot of money by sunking2 · · Score: 0, Troll

    By simply doing what this guy obviously did. Rented Independence Day. While entertaining, it was far from original. And I call BS on the $300 budget. He surely isn't factoring in all of the crap he's been accumulating over the last few years in order to put this all together. The $300 maybe would have covered what it cost to pay that lady off to let her kid roll away in the stroller.

    1. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, didn't take long for some loser on Slashdot to put this guy down for doing something YOU can't.

    2. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by FuckingNickName · · Score: 1

      It takes a special kind of person such as yourself to fill an essential role in any religious or quasi-religious movement. This is the sort of man who, when confronted with an extraordinary claim, does not ask for extraordinary evidence, but manages to both absorb the claim without question and put down those who dare to question it.

      Yes, the special effects are quite cool, if unpolished. Yes, not everyone with a random workstation would have the talent or experience to produce them. This doesn't mean that some guy in his basement with $300 managed to amass the hardware, software, (self-)training and on site budget to achieve this film. Nor is this man show a unique production talent which would make him stand out from the crowd of professional CGI artists who have already produced similar scenes.

      On the other hand, $300 + [0]00,000 = $30[0],000,000! I want to believe!

      But you know what? it makes for a great way to start buzz about a movie, and Hollywood's all about the dream of what could be.

    3. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by gonzonista · · Score: 1

      Have you ever made one of these? You pull in all the favors you can. $300 in Uruguay will go a lot further than in the USA. Borrow equipment, get talent to work for free in exchange for film credit, get your friends and family to work as extras, use idle editing suites... you get the idea.

      If you add up all the effort, the total cost would be way more than $300. The point is that it cost him $300 to put it together. It speaks volumes about his ability to get good results at low cost. That is pretty impressive.

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    4. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      He surely isn't factoring in all of the crap he's been accumulating over the last few years in order to put this all together.

      Using crap you have lying around is a classic method of saving money when making a movie, even one with a serious budget. Of course you don't factor in the cost of things you aren't paying for.

      The $300 maybe would have covered what it cost to pay that lady off to let her kid roll away in the stroller.

      Unless he said "Hey want to be in a movie with your kid? There's no money in it." and she said "Sure." Cost: $0.

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    5. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that $300 is a lot less here than it is in Uruguay, right?

    6. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are very confused. First, as an atheist, I don't know where you are getting the religious crap from, unless it was feeble attempt to insult me (fail). Second, the whole extraordinary claim/evidence thing is completely irrelevant. That applied when you are making claims of something outside the realm of science, which this guy isn't. A simple video showing his skills in making effects is not outside the realm of science. I assume you are using it in a uneducated attempt to make yourself look smart (fail again). What's the extraordinary claim you think he is making? That the giant robots are real? Just claiming he made it for $300 is not an "extraordinary claim." You're disbelief isn't enough to make it so.

    7. Re:They could have saved a lot of money by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      Um, empty stroller? All of the shots are outside, so no sets or lights were required. Presumably several of the buildings were local landmarks (which males even cooler to see them blown up).

      The camcorder could have been borrowed or rented, or even bought-and-returned ala Superbowl Sunday big-screen TVs.

      I would really like to know about the software.

      Film geeks will recognize the stroller shot as an homage to the Odessa Steps sequence from The Battleship Potemkin.

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  11. Sam Raimi by ExE122 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who knew that the man behind Spiderman, The Grudge, Evil Dead, and Drag Me to Hell is a fan of cheesy low budget special effects.

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    1. Re:Sam Raimi by DeadPixels · · Score: 1

      Did you watch the video? The CGI is rather impressive.

    2. Re:Sam Raimi by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 1

      Agreed. the video was amazing.

      this guy deserves a deal.

    3. Re:Sam Raimi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's really good considering the budget and praiseworthy for that. But impressive? No.

    4. Re:Sam Raimi by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      The Sam Raimi who directed the Evil Dead movies died many years ago. The guy calling himself "Sam Raimi" today is just a Michael Bay clone that they made to look like the old Sam Raimi with makeup and plaster.

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    5. Re:Sam Raimi by DwySteve · · Score: 1

      Regardless, this guy still casts Bruce Campbell in his movies. That's a win right there.

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    6. Re:Sam Raimi by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Bruce deserves a lot better than bit parts and cameos.

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  12. Here's the video by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the link to the original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvmIxu-LSA

    (NFSW language. If you work in a lame place. My co-workers laughed their asses off.)

    1. Re:Here's the video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fake!

    2. Re:Here's the video by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a joke. Asshole moderators.

  13. Yey! by g0dsp33d · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for the upcoming "Leave Britney Alone [2011]" and "Cat and Box [2012]".

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    1. Re:Yey! by SpeZek · · Score: 1

      You say this like it's a joke, and not reality.

  14. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by mikael_j · · Score: 1

    To be honest, this one looked a lot more realistic, just the fact that none of the airplanes/spaceships seemed to be connected to giant invisible rubber bands that made them bounce around in ways that they simply couldn't without falling apart (or out of the sky). If you have no idea what I'm talking about, just watch a few of scenes with F-18 Hornets in Independence Day and notice how they time and time again "bounce" mid-air, it's the kind of thing anyone with a few weeks of experience with 3D animation would try to avoid (which makes me think it was a directorial/managerial decision to make them behave that way).

    /Mikael

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  15. Real costs by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As awesome as that video is - and it is pretty damn awesome, let there be no mistake about that - I suspect that it only cost $300 if he's considering the time of himself and his friends to be worth zero. (I'm assuming the group scenes were the result of getting a bunch of buddies together.)

    I'd be interested to know how many hours of his own time were spent on that.

    However, it is pretty awesome and the mere fact that he can do stuff like that with his limited resources is a sign that he may well deserve that money.

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    1. Re:Real costs by aBaldrich · · Score: 1

      U$S 300 was the cost of logistics, electricity for the cameras, etc.

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    2. Re:Real costs by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 1

      He was also probably not considering the costs of cameras, computers, software -- as it is all stuff he had already.

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    3. Re:Real costs by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It only cost $300. It also had opportunity cost, which is not something that can be calculated reliably. If his other opportunities for that time would all have gained him $0, then his opportunity cost was $0. In this economic climate, that's a distinct possibility.

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    4. Re:Real costs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $300 is just about like a $3,000 budget in the USA. It's pretty darned impressive!

    5. Re:Real costs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      considering the time of himself and his friends to be worth zero

      If you're putting a price on the time you spend goofing off with friends, this may be a hint as to why you don't seem to have any.

    6. Re:Real costs by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 1

      If "goofing off with friends" is getting me a contract with Hollywood based on my "costs", I'd sure as hell better put a realistic price on that. Otherwise the lawyers show up a year later and ask me to please itemize my $300 costs and explain why this new film is costing so much more.

      (answer: because suddenly my friends don't have time to subsidize my new film with their acting.)

      I'm assuming Hollywood is not being idiotic about this and is taking that all into account, but, still, I'm curious exactly how much time it really did take and what kind of costs really were involved.

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    7. Re:Real costs by anomnomnomymous · · Score: 1

      And what about the software? I'd assume that at least some good 3D modeling package is involved, and an editing suite. I think you won't get far with 300 dollars to get decent software (and no, Blender won't cut it ;) )

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  16. A.W.E.S.O.M-O by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    Um... How about this: Adam Sandler fights against spaceships and giant robots attacking Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay, or something.

  17. Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by Raffaello · · Score: 0

    No offense intended to the great nation of Uruguay, but why would giant robotic aliens give a rat's ass about Montevideo of all places?

    1. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by sunking2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      South Africa was already occupied.

    2. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      What makes you think they'd give a rat's ass about New York or Tokyo?

      But to answer your question more effectively, when you make a movie you target an audience. A hobbyist would probably aim his audience towards the locality upon which the film is made. (Meaning, if he's in Uruguay, he's going to make a film for Uruguayians).

    3. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by ae1294 · · Score: 5, Funny

      No offense intended to the great nation of Uruguay, but why would giant robotic aliens give a rat's ass about Montevideo of all places?

      They've been intercepting our interwebs for some time now and as such they've been watching porn from 8thstreetlatinas.net. Like most gigantic robotic overlords they require fresh, nimble, "barely legal" workers for their Energon mines in order to continue to function properly and thus continue to watch even more porn as well as do all those other things that overlords do. Pass pointless laws, monitor the pleebs, protect the children, make deals with other alien overlords, etc.

      I know this because I too am a slave of the robotic overlords however, I work in accounting...

    4. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A hobbyist would probably aim his audience towards the locality upon which the film is made. (Meaning, if he's in Uruguay, he's going to make a film for Uruguayians).

      I am sure you meant:
        he's going to make a film for a reasonable amount of money.
       
      I am pretty sure a trip to New York or Tokyo would have blown his $300 budget.

    5. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by Minwee · · Score: 1

      [...] continue to watch even more porn as well as do all those other things that overlords do. Pass pointless laws, monitor the pleebs, protect the children, make deals with other alien overlords, etc.

      You mean they have already taken over England?

    6. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by nametaken · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dear Sir,

      I'm Mr. Finkelstein of Megalith Studios, and we've decided that you're the perfect person to write a script for our new bajillion dollar robot invasion film. This job pays roughly $8/hr.

    7. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

      No offense intended to the great nation of Uruguay, but why would giant robotic aliens give a rat's ass about Montevideo of all places?

      Aliens might not look at the world from our narrow perspective. Maybe they are looking for some kind of secret Nazi stuff hidden there by an émigré Nazi fugitive genius type who was really an alien. Maybe Hitler was really an evil alien and he is still there. (Some conspiracists thought he was down that way for years.) Good plot fodder... Nazis.

      Remember "The Boys From Brazil?" Anyway, IMHO it seems more interesting than them attacking Washington DC again. Unless Tim Burton has them do it, of course. In that case it's cool.

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    8. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      You mean they have already taken over England?

      Well yes, among other places... Why do you think countries are passing three-strikes and you're booted off the internet laws? It's so the overlords have more bandwidth to download pornography and interlink with other overlords via IRC.

    9. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      I'm Mr. Finkelstein of Megalith Studios, and we've decided that you're the perfect person to write a script for our new bajillion dollar robot invasion film. This job pays roughly $8/hr.

      WOW sounds great! no really, get that to me in writing and I'll get started ASAP. I work 15 hour days, six days a week so it should only take a year or so.

    10. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Or Santa Claus. If Tim Burton made a movie with giant robots attacking Santa Claus, I would so stay up late watching that on SyFyLus channel.

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    11. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by besalope · · Score: 1

      He forgot to mention, they're giving you an executive title so they don't have to pay you overtime.

    12. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      You obviously need some orgone.

    13. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by __aadhrk6380 · · Score: 1

      They wanted to take up canasta to replace their Friday night intergalactic whist league so they went to the source. It makes perfect sense.

    14. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      He forgot to mention, they're giving you an executive title so they don't have to pay you overtime.

      Hummm, the standard contract then? The one with the hookers and blow clause?

    15. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

      Mr Burton has (or had) a show at New York's Museum of Modern Art. Nice to see him properly recognized. They displayed some of his concept drawings for movies etc. Tina Brown's "The Daily Beast" did a feature on it with a slide show. (Too lazy to find you a link.)

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    16. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by orasio · · Score: 1

      Well, if they came here looking for latin women, Montevideo is the wrong place.

  18. Nice effects - and good first scene by us7892 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fog shrouded giant robots hooked me. Well done effects.

    How many hundreds of hours does it take to create something like this?

  19. $300 is not the real price by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

    Nobody would make that piece for $300. That price clearly does not include the value of his time or any number of other things (like the computer used for CG and editing for example). Just call it a hobby project or something, but don't claim it only cost $300.

    1. Re:$300 is not the real price by harris+s+newman · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the labor cost (I saw 30+ extras), where they not paid?

    2. Re:$300 is not the real price by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That price clearly does not include the value of his time or any number of other things

      The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.

      For a direct comparison, when the contractor working on my house bills me for 20 hours at $30, and tells me that he donated 3 hours to fix a mistake he made or because he was being anal retentive about getting something perfect, my bill is $600. Those extra three hours, hypothetically worth $30 each, actually cost $0.

      Just call it a hobby project or something, but don't claim it only cost $300.

      It certainly was a hobby project, yet I don't see why that means it couldn't have been made for $300. My contractor isn't doing it as a hobby, it's his livelihood, yet the same rules apply.

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    3. Re:$300 is not the real price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. That film was not made for anywhere near $300. There are obviously thousands of hours behind this. Actually, Alvarez will probably do very well in Hollywood, as he apparently already grasps the nuances of Hollywood accounting.

    4. Re:$300 is not the real price by Xamusk · · Score: 1

      If he made it with his home computer, why would it be counted as if it were purchased for the movie? He'll still use it after the movie is done since probably he hasn't bought it just for the movie.

    5. Re:$300 is not the real price by musicalmicah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.

      No, there's this thing called opportunity cost that can be used to value a hobbyist's time. For instance, if I can get $8/hr on Saturdays working at a coffeeshop instead of playing computer games, then it's worth at least $8/hr for me to spend that hour blasting virtual monsters with virtual rockets instead of making tasty espresso for impatient customers.

    6. Re:$300 is not the real price by Nick+Novitski · · Score: 1

      The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0.

      I think the (monetary) value of your time is whatever you are or could be getting paid for it. In the example of the contractor you gave, if the contractor could have done billable work for another project in the extra three hours (though perhaps that's unlikely), then regardless of what you did or didn't pay, the hours were worth whatever he could have got for them. He sacrificed their monetary value in order to gain what he thought was a superior value in client goodwill (avoiding leaving mistakes in, appearing forthright and not greedy, etc).

      Other commenters have noted that the auteur is a well-known publicity director, so presumably time that he spent making this video could have been spent on other things, and thus has non-zero value.

    7. Re:$300 is not the real price by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So why isn't the time you spend blasting virtual monsters worth $100/hr, since that's how much you could hypothetically make as a prostitute? Because you aren't a prostitute, just like you aren't a Saturday barista?

      But in any case, that's only your opportunity cost for not doing anything productive. The fact still remains that your time spent playing video games is worth $0. Nobody is going to pay you to do it.

      And for the ultimate point that is relevant to this discussion, which is the cost of making a film: Even in the unlikely event someone wanted you to do it for some gamer reality TV series, and you do it for free anyway, then the dollar value that appears on their balance sheet for getting you to play video games is still $0/hr. Not $8/hr, not $100/hr. $0.

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    8. Re:$300 is not the real price by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I think the (monetary) value of your time is whatever you are or could be getting paid for it.

      You could make $100/hr turning tricks. Or $500/hr if you were really good at it or found high-priced clientel. So is that the value of your time? Are you being (metaphorically) screwed by your current job because you are being short-changed on the value of your time?

      But the point is that we're talking about the budget for a film. Regardless of whatever your time could be worth in some hypothetical scenario, if you do work for a film for free, then guess what? That work was, uh, free, and the impact on the film's budget is $0.

      Other commenters have noted that the auteur is a well-known publicity director, so presumably time that he spent making this video could have been spent on other things, and thus has non-zero value.

      You don't add that to the cost of the film, though. "Opportunity cost" is not an actual expense.

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    9. Re:$300 is not the real price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or movie extras on big films - you don't pay them either so I think the OP is being pedantic.

    10. Re:$300 is not the real price by musicalmicah · · Score: 1

      Point taken--I can see now how opportunity cost shouldn't make it onto the final post-project budget sheet--though where does one draw the line for work that's invested in something that may or may not lead to future profits?

      For instance, let's say an hour of this person's work on video editing can be billed to customers around town (for weddings, marketing pieces, whatever) at $50. Doesn't that hour of work now have a $50 value, especially if that's the cheapest price all the competitors in town would bill?

    11. Re:$300 is not the real price by Alarindris · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      With the costs of software, camera's, his time, and the extras time, this is easily over $5,000.

      It's like saying The Beatles recorded Let it Be for $0 because they owned Apple and everything was done on an advance.

    12. Re:$300 is not the real price by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      For instance, let's say an hour of this person's work on video editing can be billed to customers around town (for weddings, marketing pieces, whatever) at $50. Doesn't that hour of work now have a $50 value, especially if that's the cheapest price all the competitors in town would bill?

      Yeah, I think you could say that. Certainly you could say that if the person decided to do an hour of video editing for free, they saved you $50 (which is valuable). If this was part of a promotion where you get one hour free, they could advertise it as "a $50 value!" and that'd be correct. Coupons and similar type of vouchers have monetary values, and these do appear on the balance sheets of those who are issuing them.

      I think multiple issues got conflated in this thread including by me. There's the actual bill, which obviously only counts how much money actually changes hands. Then there's the "value" of that time, and while an hour spent doing something that someone would pay you for has that value, an hour doing something nobody would pay you for doesn't. Then there's the value that you could hypothetically get by doing something else than whatever non-valuable thing you're doing. That's where opportunity cost comes in, and it's certainly real. But I do take issue with the assumption many seem to make that therefore their video-game-playing time is equal in value to their wage. If you actually had the option to work another hour for another hour's pay, sure. But especially for the salaried folk of which there are plenty around here, that's not always true.

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    13. Re:$300 is not the real price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This software isn't free. The movie maker mentions he used "Premiere, After, Photoshop, 3dMax, Boujou, Glu3d and FumeFx". Boujou alone is $10,000 and adobe premiere, after, and photoshop aren't cheap either.

    14. Re:$300 is not the real price by musicalmicah · · Score: 1

      If you actually had the option to work another hour for another hour's pay, sure. But especially for the salaried folk of which there are plenty around here, that's not always true.

      Hence why I spent that hour on Slashdot instead of coding. =P

  20. New ideas? by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

    Hollywood couldn't come up with "Giant Robots Attacking A Modern City" ?? I'm not a movie aficionado, but dudes, that's been done before.

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    1. Re:New ideas? by b1t+r0t · · Score: 1

      Except if Hollywood did it, they would make the CGI so shiny as if to say "HEY YOU PUDS IN THE AUDIENCE LOOK AT MY AWESOME CGI YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE PENIS ON THIS ROBOT", and not hidden it behind a bunch of fog.

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  21. That video for $300? I dont think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The video is completely not done for $300, just the camera work alone looks like about $30k worth of editing. I would bet anything that this video was done by the big studios and they staged that it came from this guy.

  22. To his credit... by KingSkippus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To his credit, the plot of the YouTube video was a lot more interesting than around 80% of the movies that Hollywood does churn out these days.

    1. Re:To his credit... by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Really the only thing missing was John Cusack driving a van.

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    2. Re:To his credit... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Followed by that news kid.

      I want my $2.00!

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  23. V & Battlestar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like a mix of V & Battlestar Gallactica to me. Ho hum.

    1. Re:V & Battlestar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also an advanced civilization would have advanced weapons which likely wouldn't require putting giant robots on the ground to attack at random. One nuke flattens the whole area.

      And the $300 cost is misleading. There had to be tons of man-hours involved. Add them into it and it changes the picture.

      "It's been 7 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment" - no fucking shit! You're saying I should wait another 3 hours until the story isn't relevant anymore? You stupid fucks - this "Slow Down Cowboy!" is bullshit. Behind a firewall, clicked back, assume it's a mistake, blah blah. What a bunch of shit. This is a technically-oriented site - assume your readers are more than ass-monkeys, aren't making a mistake and know what the fuck they're doing.

  24. More interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More interesting would be to know the total time and money spent on all YouTube dramatizations, vs. the return from major movie studios.

  25. Impressive for the budget it was done on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but it's not something I'd go and see. Alien invaders. Ho hum. Lots of stuff blowing up. Yawn. It feels like I've already seen it about a thousand times already.

  26. Flaming lips on fire off the shoulder of Orion by paiute · · Score: 1

    I was going to say that I was waiting for Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, the movie, but according to Wikipedia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshimi_Battles_the_Pink_Robots) there is a Broadway musical in development. So the movie will not be far behind.

    And the plot outline looks pretty interesting.

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    1. Re:Flaming lips on fire off the shoulder of Orion by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      So the movie will not be far behind.

      Dude. That Pink Robots movie has been playing at the cineplex near Tannhäuser Gate for weeks. I went to see it a few nights ago, but was heavily distracted by the glittering c-beams. You should go see it ASAP.

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  27. Ohhh! *That* Montevideo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    'Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay'
    Thanks for clarifying that.

    Does the article submitter work in movie post-production by any chance?

    This post brought to you from London, England.

  28. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow by dirkdodgers · · Score: 1

    Anyone? Same scene done better in a novel story that was a huge risk in Hollywood.

    Yes, it's impressive that the linked video was done on an amateur budget, and congratulations to this guy; I hope he makes millions, but let's not pretend this is original stuff.

  29. Actual Video Here by StikyPad · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Since there's no link in the summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dadPWhEhVk

    Nice camera work and pretty impressive effects.

  30. Space Invaders by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    The Movie

  31. Sky captain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So rip off the start of sky captain - add in better fx ( it was made 5 years ago) and gain a$30 mill contract.

    Sky captain still wins though...it had airships!

    1. Re:Sky captain? by Goffee71 · · Score: 1

      And underwater planes
      ... And Angelina Jolie (before she went weird)
      ... And Gwyneth Paltrow

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  32. PR/Viral marketing? by djwavelength · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks that the whole situation was setup as a viral marketing/PR stunt? Maybe I'm just naturally distrustful of Hollywood.

    It is easier to sell tickets to another run of the mill Sci-Fi movie if it has a story like this behind it.

    1. Re:PR/Viral marketing? by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that he had a "flood" of offers in his email before most of the world even heard of it? Yeah, I'd say it's a PR stunt.

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    2. Re:PR/Viral marketing? by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can actually read some of the "flood" of emails in alvarez's original post (5-Nov-2009) www.taringa.net/posts/videos/3854519.2/Ataque-de-Panico!-Robots-Gigantes-en-Montevideo.html

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    3. Re:PR/Viral marketing? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Sure sounds like it. It sounds a little like one of those Susan Boyle "surprise talent" discoveries, where they pick up someone whose singing/acting/movie editing skills/composing/whatever skills are not that much above average and don't really warrant big-ticket producer attention... except for the fact that they've got a hell of a compelling rags-to-riches story behind them.

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    4. Re:PR/Viral marketing? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      Nope, you're not the only one.

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  33. Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by mpapet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The project is budgeted at 30M.

    This is Alvarez's first project, probably no agent, definitely no actors attached to it, so they will probably give him an 'advance' and then lots of interdependent if-then conditionals. He won't get any on-screen credits. (That sets off a bunch of payouts the producer normally keeps) Then one of two things happen to a first-time writer/creator.

    1. The conditionals are never met. Alvarez keeps his pittance of an advance and makes a little beer money. This is normally how it works for a project off the street.
    2. The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful. Alvarez then might see his five figures after a few rounds in court and 6-figure legal bills.

    Check out the legal wrangling on 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' as an example. According to the producer, that was an 'unprofitable' film. Welcome to business deals in Hollywood.

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    1. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by jimicus · · Score: 1

      AFAICT, generally more common with movies from relatively unknown writers or based on relatively unknown books.

      Probably because not even Hollywood would have been stupid enough to, eg, screw JK Rowling over the first Harry Potter film.

    2. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Check out the legal wrangling on 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' as an example. According to the producer, that was an 'unprofitable' film. Welcome to business deals in Hollywood.

      Forest Gump still lost money. Unprofitable blockbuster, so sad. Don't know how that could possibly happen, wink nudge etc.

      The dropping of barriers to entry is the key. You don't need to get into Blockbuster, netflix is fine. You don't need to get into the theaters, netflix I'm sure will eventually start streaming first-run movies. And with digital distribution, maybe the theaters will start scheduling one-off nights. A physical print is like $17k and only has a limited number of runs before it deteriorates. With the theaters going completely digital, they could have a hundred movies on-hand to run in any of their theaters and can set a theater from one to the other at the press of a button.

      I'll be just as happy to see the wheeler-dealers fucked to death with their own severed cocks. The world has no need for them other than compost.

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    3. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by Minwee · · Score: 3, Informative

      not even Hollywood would have been stupid enough to, eg, screw JK Rowling over the first Harry Potter film.

      Just like nobody would ever have been stupid enough to screw Peter Jackson over the Lord of the Rings movies.

      Gotcha.

    4. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is basically what Ghost House did to the Peng brothers on The Messengers. They were off the show once the cameras stopped rolling, and the company hired a ghost director to finish the film.

      The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful.

      That won't happen. If Alvarez has a remotely competent agent he'll push for gross points or none at all, which are a cut of the box office before any expenses. Actors and directors learned their lesson from the recording industry years ago and it's pretty common knowledge that a deal net of expenses is worthless. They'll probably pay this guy half a mil and he'll think he won the lottery.

      The studios aren't hiring these people because they have good ideas, or even necessarily because they're cheap. They're hiring them because they're small fry and will take orders from their producers. I've seen it happen over and over again; over the past decade we've seen a serious decline in the authority of directors in favor of producers and executives. Take a look at the "In Production" section of Variety or HR lately-- literally dozens of projects in the $30-$100 M range are going right now with a director that has credits as nothing more than a "stunt coordinator" or "second unit director" or a resume in commercial/music videos. These people are hired because they won't cause trouble when the producer wants to completely rewrite the story, and can be fired with little fanfare.

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    5. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      Peter Jackson was hardly a household name before Lord of the RIngs. His previous movies like Frighteners and Dead Alive (Braindead) were popular with fans of the genre but not exactly big hits.
      I'm sure Hollywood felt it was worth a shot to screw some relatively no-name director from New Zealand who's credits included "Meet the Feebles" and "Bad Taste".

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    6. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by MotorMachineMercenar · · Score: 1

      You make the assumption that the director is for some reason the author (re: auteur theory) of a movie, which is just one way to look at film. Some of the best films Hollywood has created were not done by auteurs, Casablanca perhaps being the most appropriate example. I'm all for getting away from auteur theory, and embracing film as a collaborative medium. There are only a few truly great auteurs today, (Coppola, Mann, Mamet, Ridley Scott), rest of them mediocre (Peter Jackson) or overstretched hacks (Michael Bay, Lucas, and perhaps Spielberg) (not meant as an exhaustive list).

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  34. What did Raimi see in this guy? by prakslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am sorry but I would take this story with pinch of salt.
    Could be someone is pulling a fast one on this guy?

    There is nothing in the film that shows any originality or creativity in ideas. It seems like a amateur copy of scenes from "War of the Worlds" and "Independence Day".

    So, what did Hollywood Studios see in this guy?

    That he can make a hacky special effects film for $300? Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300. All those crowds running was previously shot and reused dfootage. If he had to perform original shooting of those scenes, the budget would go way over $300. Same goes for the explosions and other special effects. He probably spent a long time on creating those but did not include the dollar value of that time which typically would add thousands of dollars to the film's budget. So, I am not seeing what he brought to the table.
    Those fan-created Star Trek episodes have more going for them than this.

    1. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300.

      That's your answer right there. You can't swing a dead cat* in Hollywood without hitting a dozen writers. Mr. Raimi doesn't need any more writers, but creative accountants are gold.


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    2. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300.

      Since when did anything involving movies ever use proper accounting methods?

    3. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by pavon · · Score: 1

      There is nothing in the film that shows any originality or creativity in ideas.
      So, what did Hollywood Studios see in this guy?

      I think you just answered that yourself :)

    4. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by the_wesman · · Score: 1

      jealous much?

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    5. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by jadin · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      When the accountants are done and all the dust is settled, his cut of the $30(0?) million will be $300. And it will all come full circle.

    6. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by eulernet · · Score: 1

      If you read the original post: http://www.taringa.net/posts/videos/3854519/Ataque-de-Panico!-Robots-Gigantes-en-Montevideo.html
      you'll see that they worked for 6 months on it, with a ton of tools, that are a lot more expensive than $300 (they cite 3dMax, FumeFx, Glu3d, AfterEffects, Photoshop y Premiere), unless these softwares were pirated.

      This is definitely NOT the work of an amateur !
      The director has probably access to an expensive camera.
      Why ?
      I worked previously in a game company where the graphists had to integrate effects into real pictures.
      There was a problem because some parts of the movie were shot without steadycam (meaning that when the cameraman filmed, the camera was moving just a little bit, because of his breathing).
      To adjust the effects on the pictures, the graphists had to correct the scenes frame by frame, by slightly rotating the effect.

      In the video, you can see that the camera is always moving, so this means that the director kept track of the position of the camera at every frame. It's of course possible to do this manually, but requires a lot of (useless) manual work.

      Anyway, the effects are very well embedded into the real pictures.

      So the $300 have probably been spent on paying the extras on the screen.

    7. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

      You know something?

      I really liked the clip & I really quite like the idea of seeing a full length movie based on it - personally, I don't care whether the clip is genuine or viral, it's piqued my interest so it's done what it's supposed to.

      So it's derivative of "War Of The Worlds" or "Independence Day". So what? I don't need to have my intellect stretched every time I go and see a movie, sometimes I just want to sit there like the fat consumer I am, pay some money and just be *ENTERTAINED*.

      If anything the movie industry is so scared of itself that most of it tries too damned hard to churn out blockbuster after blockbuster, sequel after sequel, when sometimes an enjoyable "B" movie is all that's needed - exactly why a director like John Carpenter can stay relatively independent & just put out movies based on stories he wants to tell and will be a bit of good fun to watch.

      So please don't spend too much time analysing it because you're wasting your time - all that matters is whether or not you enjoyed it and if it becomes a full length movie then either go see it or don't go and see it.

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  35. The day is coming where we don't need holywood by jabjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being able to make movies much cheaper is a good thing. Means making a movie is much less financially risky, so people are more likely to back something new and unknown. Consumer grade equipment is getting better all the time, perhaps holywood won't be needed. This plus file sharing must have holywood filling their pants, not sure drawing such attention with such large sums of money was wise for them.....

    1. Re:The day is coming where we don't need holywood by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      Holywood? Is that the new Vatican movie studio?

    2. Re:The day is coming where we don't need holywood by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      You don't need $100 million to make a film anymore, but you do need the millions of dollars Hollywood has in order to get a film seen. They own all the sources of distribution. You want your movie seen in 1000 screens nationwide with a worldwide release? You have to go through them. I know some people will talk about online distribution and YouTube and such, but look at this video. At the moment it has 1,535,618 views, which isn't a lot by Hollywood standards and worldwide standards, and ALL of those views aren't from paying customers. Even at $300 bucks, this guy would not have gotten his money back on the film had Hollywood not offered him a deal. On top of that, the easier it becomes for everybody to make movies, the easier it becomes for everybody to make LOTS of BAD movies. The cream of the crop will be drowned out in a sea of mediocrity - which is exactly what YouTube is now. I'd go so far as to say that YouTube has decreased the quality of independent films. Now, everybody who wants to get their stuff out and be seen by the masses has to pander to an audience that wants funny 10 second clips of pandas sneezing (46,748,716 views) or cats playing on a keyboard (4,497,166 views but MANY rehashes). I have a lot of friends in the effects and indie film industry and all of them have had conversations on how to become the next YouTube sensation, and all of their ideas have suffered in the process. Art dictated by the masses, in my opinion and experience, is a helluva lot worse than art dictated by uncreative studio execs.

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    3. Re:The day is coming where we don't need holywood by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      Paramount recently announced they were starting a unit to produce films exclusively at the $100,000, because they see dollar signs when a film like Paranormal Activity make tens of millions of dollars.

      Several friends of mine are writer-directors and independent producers, and when they were making the rounds at AFM this year, and when they take meetings now, executives tell them in no uncertain terms that "YouTube has lowered the standards of what we have to make," so now where their pitch might have been for a $7-$10 million film that might make $20-$30M all in, the backers are constantly asking if it can be done like "Paranormal Activity" or some comedy series they saw on funnyordie. What they don't seem to realize is that films at this level are labors of love, and that if the people who made these things were actually making them commercially, they wouldn't be able to obtain the millions of dollars in favors they get from everyone involved.

      On the other end, a studio exec once told a partner at my company that they were "only making 'hits' from now on," with no trace of irony. By this they mean they're only going to produce HUGE $100M+ features, and they will no longer be making the programmer/$10-$50M films. These films aren't bad, a lot of them do very well and at this level they have to have good stories, but because the upside is limited, and even terrible $200M films tend to make a profit (viz, Transformers), they will pursue this direction.

      Because of my work I've seen a lot of features, shorts and series in the sub $300k range, and more than a few web series in the sub $50k range, and they can be some of the punkest films you've ever seen -- people don't want to watch them, the only reason films like this succeed is explicitly because a studio isn't involved, and only the barest few make their money back. The only reason a film like "Paranormal Activity" makes $50 million is because (1) the studio had nothing to do with the making, and (2) the studio spends $20 million marketing it, and (3) five "Paranormal Activity" films haven't already come out this year (the novelty is still there). The studio comes out all the better, because they paid nothing for the original film, and the people who made it are nobodies who won't get a good deal off this film and will probably never be heard from again.

      If you've ever seen The Player, at one point Peter Gallagher's character goes into a board meeting and declares that the studio no longer needs to hire directors or writers, and will simply cast mega-stars into adaptations of newspaper articles. This latest development of cinema-by-youtube is just another variation on this theme, except in this case they don't even need to hire actors! The studios are just trying to create a situation where they make all the upside and inflict a rent on the people who want to have their films seen, instead of those people partaking in the spoils as well as the studio.

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  36. Nice try Slashdot... by potscott · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'm not going to get Rick rolled...

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    1. Re:Nice try Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nope, it's not Rick Roll. Go ahead, watch it, click on the link, I swear it's not a Rick Roll!

      *snigger*

  37. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You haven't flown much in real air, have you? You should try it in a small airplane. Check at your nearest airport for short flights and see if you can find one with a plane which holds less than 50 people. After a summer flight in a 10-passenger plane you'll change your opinion of how a wing through air might behave. Take a dose of motion sickness medicine before your first flight, as you don't know how you'll react to it.

  38. Seen it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty damned good for $300. I got black out drunk and watched cloverfield and independance day consecutively, so I've already seen it via spotty memory.

  39. Hope he gets his original money out by houghi · · Score: 1

    With all the hollywood accounting, I hope he at least makes his original 100USD. But most likely he won't get anything and with a bit of bad luck, he ends up loosing money.

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    1. Re:Hope he gets his original money out by ThatsLoseNotLoose · · Score: 1

      with a bit of bad luck, he ends up loosing money.

      That's LOSING not LOOSING!

    2. Re:Hope he gets his original money out by houghi · · Score: 1

      Apparently you think that I must know the language perfectly. I thank you for thinking my third language is good enough to be taken for a native speaker. Otherwise you would just look like a looser.

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  40. 300 bucks cant have licensed that OST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Shouldn't youtube silence the vid? Plenty other vids get silenced for using copyrighted music, and this one obviously i've heard before. PRobably in 28 weeks later. not sure.

  41. and in three years by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    they remake the movie once more.

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  42. Re:That sucks on so many levels by segedunum · · Score: 1

    I would hazard a guess they are paying for the potential story behind this but mainly the ability of this guy to produce this on such a budget. $300 for something that looks that good and realistic is VERY good. The explosions are not bad and are generally well done. The shaky camera work gives a good impression of what the scene is apparently about - an attack with people fleeing in panic.

    Give the guy a break. If I a produced something like that for 186 quid I would be absolutely ecstatic.

  43. What about Shane Carruth? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Primer was one of the best sci-fi movies I've ever seen, on a budget of $7,000. It's about damn time that guy gets the funding he needs to bring his other ideas to fruition.

    1. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      primar was boring. so go and die in a fire.

    2. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      Hollywood money means Hollywood rules of filmmaking.

    3. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 3, Funny

      You make a persuasive argument. If anyone needs me, I'll be busy dying in a fire.

    4. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by inhuman_4 · · Score: 1

      Indeed it was a very good movie.

    5. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up. The premise for Primer sounded really good and I desperately wanted to like it, but it bored me to tears. Great concept, terrible execution.

    6. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by Eil · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've watched Primer three times. It's great, but I was wondering if you can PM me and tell me what it's about...

    7. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 1

      I get it that you're trying to be clever, but the wikipedia page does a pretty decent job of explaining it. Don't read unless you've already seen the movie.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(film)

    8. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Here's a flowchart that explains what's going on:

      http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/movie_narrative_charts_large.png
      (lower right corner)

  44. Better: "What's in the Box?" by Shane112358 · · Score: 1

    Kudos to this guy for putting together what looks like a big budget trailer for $300. However, I don't see any original filmmaking ideas - only technical content. I saw this short film months ago and think it has a lot more originality and an awesome sci-fi slant. Plus, augmented reality is sweet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4

    1. Re:Better: "What's in the Box?" by bdrewery · · Score: 0

      This seems like Half Life!

    2. Re:Better: "What's in the Box?" by qzulla · · Score: 1

      Well, that kinda... sucked.

      qz

  45. not so impressed, what am I missing here .... by acidfast7 · · Score: 1

    basically a bunch of average CGI on top of the tried-and-true cinematography to cause a sense a panic in the viewer. I didn't see any new ideas nor any new cinematographic techniques. what am I missing? it seems like Fede wrote a short storyline, divided it into scenes, shot the scenes with a "few" extras and dropped some CGI on top. how is this different from any Film School project? Ah, it doesn't show any plot, character development, suspense or new techniques/ideas :( story must be bogus.

  46. Are there any Uraguayans here? by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 1

    Well, of course, their requests for subsidies was not Uraguayan in and of it is as it were the United States government would never have if the president, our president, had not and as far as I know that's the way it will always be. Is that clear?

    1. Re:Are there any Uraguayans here? by ThatsLoseNotLoose · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Are there any Uraguayans here? by El_Isma · · Score: 1

      Yes there are Uruguayans. But sorry to tell you, that movie actually says "Paraguayans" (or at least, that's what I hear :P ).
      Thanks to the other poster for the youtube link!

  47. Headline News Alert! FLASH! by bonze · · Score: 0, Troll

    Aliens, annoyed by movies portraying them as dumsheets obsessed with Blowing Sheet Up, blanket earth with pathogens.

    More at 11!

  48. Re:That video for $300? I dont think so by Simulant · · Score: 1

    I agree. There is no way that was made for $300.00.

    Not unless he's using free equipment/software, not paying anyone else for anything, and not counting his own hours as an expense.

  49. Viral advertising by tomhath · · Score: 1

    I really hate to be so cynical, but this really looks like viral advertising to me.

    The video is kind a clever splice-together of scenes he shot and scenes he copied, but I don't see anything especially original.

  50. soundtrack rip off? by tomp1000 · · Score: 1

    this film was interesting to watch and would most likley make a decent film if the studio doesnt wreck it but what worries me is the soundtrack has been blatentley copied from '28 Days Later' and does add eerieness to the atmopshere, so shouldn't danny boyle, or whoever owns the rights to the music be sueing this guy if hes just been offered a $300 million movie deal?

  51. This was so cool by bensafrickingenius · · Score: 1

    I'm going to go watch the longer version of it called "The War of the Worlds" (2005) again tonight. No, seriously, the Youtube vid was VERY cool. But I think what I liked most about it was that it reminded me of the Dakota Fanning movie. Oh, I guess Tom Cruise might have been in it too... Anyway, it was a very cool, very scary movie.

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  52. Beverly Hills 419 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...my inbox was totally full of e-mails from Hollywood studios,"

        Dear Fede Alvarez,

    I am Mr. Dramane Yadi, I work in the Accounts/ Operations Department of a Prime banks here in Hollywood. I actually have an urgent and very confidential business proposal for you. I got your contact from Internet and decided to contact you immediately.
    On January 10th 1994, An American Oil Consultant/ Contractor with the Societe Ivoirienne De Raffinage (SIR), Mr. George Norman Wesley, made a number time (fixed) deposits valued at US$300,000,000 (Three Hundred Million Nigerian Dollars)...

  53. not really by zogger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree on the he should be recognized, but disagree as to how. I'd rather guys like this were able to make a feature length film and completely bypass the normal hollywood cash skimming, over paid "star" paying and story altering facets, to just skip the whole bloated budget and higher cartel DVD and ticket prices MPAA thing and do for movies what the indy music artists are doing skipping affiliation with the RIAA crew.

    If he can do this for three hundred bucks, maybe that means a full feature length movie can be done for under one million and not cost hundreds of millions. He still gets paid, but it would be all his and his crew then, not 99% going to middlemen and overpaid so called "talent", and consumers/watchers can get good films legitimately to view at much more reasonable prices.

    1. Re:not really by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      It's really cool that physical special effects are now within reach of regular folks and common computing hardware. What I'm looking forward to is when folks are able to make casts of thousands movies like LotR as well as mapping realistic looking (famous) actors on to either motion captured or animated CGI. This would allow folks to make all the edited to hell/missing movies, without out all the Hollywood post director editing (Golden Compass!).

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    2. Re:not really by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I think that's coming. As the creation/distribution tools become cheaper and more available, companies just won't have the leverage to control it anymore. You're seeing it happen, even if it's not happening as fast as you'd like.

      But if you're going to have a established movie industry, it's probably smart and appropriate for them to be courting new talent.

  54. It's Over, Hollywood Is Finished - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty telling that a $300 budget can deliver CGI of equivalent quality to G.I. Joe.

  55. another movie by zmooc · · Score: 1

    I think there are many much better special-fx based movies. Some even have somewhat of a story!:P Personally, I like the one below a lot, but that may be because it was recorded where I live;-) Anyway, it's a lot more entertaining than the video the story is about.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4

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    1. Re:another movie by qzulla · · Score: 1

      It sucks even more the second time it was posted.

      qz

  56. $30 million not $300 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The deal was for $30 million, not $300 million.

    1. Re:$30 million not $300 million by MrSniffer · · Score: 1

      Fix both the headlines and body text, please.

    2. Re:$30 million not $300 million by mypalmike · · Score: 1

      What's $270 million between friends?

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  57. The music is from 28 days later by mxh83 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It uses the same music as 28 days later? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x_ovbbXHMY

    1. Re:The music is from 28 days later by LDoggg_ · · Score: 1

      Love that music and loved 28 days later.

      Would have been much more impressive to use something original or at least less well known.

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  58. Gas: Compressable Fluid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since air is a gas and thus a compressible fluid I would suggest that 'bouncing' on it seems entirely possible.

  59. Why no support for a low budget phillipino horror by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    movie? Shows it is better to post in youtube than to pimp your movie project in slashdot.

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  60. "No story" - and the difference is? by fantomas · · Score: 1

    I've seen a fair few Hollywood movies made for a lot more where the storyline is tenuous to say the least.

    I think the direction shows promise and why not - Spanish speaking American and European markets must be a potential goldmine for Hollywood. It rather reminds me of the music industry, which I worked in for a short while. They take a good looking teenager or group of teenagers with a few half baked songs scribbled on the back of their schoolbooks off the streets and throw a few million at them just in case they are the next Michael Jackson or SClub7 or whatever. Reckon Hollywood is the same. Take a punt on somebody with a bit of promise, surround them with time served veterans who can keep things on schedule and at worst it gets written off as a tax loss to balance the books and at best you might find a genius. Got to be worth a punt, costs about the same as one Hollywood star's pay for one movie probably.

    Plus Hollywood loves a formula. District 9 = "African sci-fi", maybe this is the missing link "South American sci-fi" that will clean up that market.

  61. October called... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    ...they want their meme back.

  62. I liked this homegrown movie the first time by Papatoast · · Score: 1, Informative

    I saw it when it was called "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" (I know, the film actually did get picked up and finished by a studio, but it started out as a homegrown short)

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  63. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by mikael_j · · Score: 1

    I've flown quite a lot and I've also been to a number of air shows and I'm still convinced there were way too many maneuvers pulled by the CGI Hornets in Independence day that would have resulted in crashed or at least stalled planes. Have you seen some of the things those planes in the movie do? Their movement is too cartoonish and "action packed", basically it's Hollywood aerodynamics where suspense and "wow cool!" are way more important than realism.

    (When I say "bounce" keep in mind I also described it as "giant invisible rubber bands", that is to say, going downward with the plane facing more forward than downward yet somehow making a neat sine-curve "bounce" up at low speed with the nose still pointing way too much forward for it to simply be explained by "oh well he used the afterburner", unless it was some magic Area 51-style VTOL Hornet it shouldn't have been able to move like that.)

    /Mikael

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  64. Re:That video for $300? I dont think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm guessing you got it right. He probably already had a computer lying around. $0. There are plenty of free software tools that can produce CGI of that level (I'm saying the CGI was not super spectacular). $0. Lots of people jump at the chance to be "actors". $0 Nobody is paying him for his own time, so how would he bill for it? Or, when I make a sandwich in the kitchen, I only count the dollars I had in the sandwich, not the time I spent making it. $0.

  65. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by Anachragnome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...it's the kind of thing anyone with a few weeks of experience with 3D animation would try to avoid..."

    Or they tried to make the movie effects as accurate as possible.

    It is called Wind Shear.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear

    It is the reason people are told to buckle up in airplanes when they are nowhere near landing. Doppler radar can catch it even though it is not visible to the naked eye (unless it contains particles that are visible) and thus the pilots know it is coming. Unbuckled people have been killed being tossed about in airliners because of it.

  66. You Have Wil Wheaton Derangement Syndrome by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This guy did a great job! 300 bucks, uploaded to Youtube, and he gets a Hollywood gig out it!! It's the Cherished Daydream of half the digital video hacks on this board -- maybe the whole 'Net. And you're going to hate on him because you think it's merely "a very pretty video of a special effects demo."

    God bless this sonuvabitch. Let's see you do better.

    1. Re:You Have Wil Wheaton Derangement Syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy did a great job! 300 bucks, uploaded to Youtube, and he gets a Hollywood gig out it!! It's the Cherished Daydream of half the digital video hacks on this board -- maybe the whole 'Net.

      Oh, I get it. That IS the story. It's a drama, not sci-fi.

  67. Micheal? Micheal Bay? by Jinjuku · · Score: 0

    Since when did Micheal Bay move and change his name?

  68. No link... *sigh*... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um... you know that underlined part, "spaceships and giant robots attacking Montevideo"? That's actually a link! Amazing, isn't it, that they made *text* into a link instead of just posting the URL itself, but somehow they did.

    (And to think, being lazy or unobservant got your redundant comment a bunch of informatives. RTFS, indeed.)

    1. Re:No link... *sigh*... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The summary was altered to include the link you pretentious fuck.

  69. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still haven't figured out the whole sig field thing, have you. It's awfully technically complicated, I know. /Mikael

  70. This deserves more credit than that video. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This deserves more credit than that video. I'm posting AC because i don't have a /. account.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHD8Xf5Rnvo

    1. Re:This deserves more credit than that video. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      That car/helicopter reel was a good demo of a 3D animator's skills and might well snag him some decent work in the field. But I think the story in the robot attacky-thing was probably a significant grab for the Hollywood execs. --The video didn't just show animation, but also interation with actors, demonstrating that the director has both versatility and a sense of what people are interested in. People like concepts which stir the imagination.

      Cars and helicopters don't really inspire anything new. It was more like a nice screen saver than a "What if?" sci-fi idea.

      Of course, unless a decent script can be pulled together, which I don't have high hopes of, this probably won't amount to much. But you never know. As I understand it, the "District 9" director got his start doing similar small animation projects, -though his early work was much more intricately thought out in terms of story and human reactions, whereas this guy's work looks suspiciously like a Uruguayan Roland Emmerich.

      But you're right; that car reel did look impressive!

      -FL

  71. Re:Why no support for a low budget phillipino horr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol +1

  72. Re:Nice vid and all, but I've seen that movie befo by mikael_j · · Score: 1

    Well, before you started posting comments about it I actually considered adding it to my sig but I was being lazy, now I have a good reason not to do it, it keeps at least one troll occupied.

    /Mikael

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  73. I do! It's true! I admit it! Come and get me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you're going to hate on him because you think it's merely "a very pretty video of a special effects demo."

    Oh my God.

    Yes, I loath him! Since seeing that Youtube video this morning, I've spent every waking minute hating him! I've been up at night, every night, plotting my hatred! I can't sleep because of my all consuming hatred! Can you blame me! I mean look at the video - just look at it! It's all special effects and NO story! NO STORY! Not even some cheesy TnA! Not one booby! Not ONE!!

    How dare he!! He's a blight on all humanity! I'm booking my flight to Hungry as I type this to find him! I will salt the Earth that he stands on!

    1. Re:I do! It's true! I admit it! Come and get me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm booking my flight to Hungry as I type this to find him!

      What, you've stopped eating?

  74. Film History by UnlimitedFreakOut · · Score: 1

    Love scifi but my eyes did widen when I saw the pram going down the stairs and thought, well at least they know their stuff... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battleship_Potemkin#The_Odessa_Steps_sequence good luck to them ;O)

  75. disingenous budget by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

    For all the talk about "Hollywood accounting" I find it just as disingenuous when all of these indie shorts come out claiming ridiculously small budgets. Yes, he might have spent $300 out of pocket for some snacks or something for the crew... but the crew worked for free, the cast worked for free, he didn't pay anything for filming on the street (which in most metropolitcan areas in the US he'd have to get a permit and insurance for), the cost of the camera and equipment wasn't included, and most importantly the hundreds of hours he spent creating those visual effects weren't included either. This really gives people a warped sense of scale of how time consuming and work-intensive a production is - especially on here with everyone claiming this is the death of Hollywood. Just like the open source adage - Open Source is free only if your time is worthless... This movie cost $300 bucks only if everyone's time on it was worthless. This is why Sam Raimi didn't say "Oh, you did this for $300 bucks and it's 5 minutes long? That means you could make a 90 minute film for $5400 bucks. Here you go, kid, go nuts."

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    1. Re:disingenous budget by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

      Although, The Hunt for Gollum cost about five thousand bucks and it was 38 minutes long. I realize even that isn't quite the same as a full length feature film for three times as much, but we're clearly getting there.

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    2. Re:disingenous budget by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      Again, $5000 bucks on a 38 min film is just paying for bare expenses on stuff that can't be gotten for free - such as the materials for the costumes and props, and it took years to create because it was a labor of love in-between paying jobs. This is not a viable business model for an industry.

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  76. YouTube will be brought to its knees... by Zarf · · Score: 1

    ... by all the wanna be SciFi film makers uploading their budget clips to YouTube trying to get a movie deal now. Thanks a lot buddy.

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  77. You are missing the point by alkalinelito · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesn't matter if it crappy or not, or if it has a story or not, etc The point was to watch our city being destroyed by aliens/robots or whatever they are.

  78. No way this was done for $300 by lidocaineus · · Score: 1

    And I'm not even talking about paying talent. Let's just say he has a bunch of friends that will do everything (acting, CGI, basic crew work) for free. This isn't unheard of for something so short.

    The software ALONE to generate CGI on that level is more than $300. You can't do that kind of work in something like Adobe After Effects or Apple Motion. Hell, animating something in Photoshop (painful) wouldn't look this good and it still costs more than $300. This requires something like Shake or IFF stuff... then you have to have the hardware to run it on.

    Also there is NO way the camera he's using is some cheapo point and shoot DV or even HDV cam - the quality and frame rate look almost film like. I've seen high end DV and HDV cams, all of which are above $300, and they still don't look this good after proper lighting and post-production color matching/tweaking.

    You can do plenty of stuff on shoe string budgets these days but I don't think it's scaled down to QUITE this level yet.

  79. I hate the internet ( and you ) and slashot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    WTF? All of these comments and not one person has discussed *HOW* he did it? This is fucking slashdot! You people are supposed to be engineers, scientists and geeks. You are supposed to care about the how and not so much about the why.

    Something is broken.

    1. Re:I hate the internet ( and you ) and slashot by daveime · · Score: 1

      Well duh ... he obviously created a portal into an alternate universe where giant robots really *did* land and start shooting up South America. After filming it with his iPhone, he returned here and uploaded it to the YouTube website in this reality. Microsoft sucks, OSS Forever.

      There, I guess that will appeal to 99% of the Slashdot readership, happy now ?

    2. Re:I hate the internet ( and you ) and slashot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually no. It does exemplify part of the problem. I would expect the people who have some expertise in the field in question to have a discussion about the technical merits of the topic at hand. Not a bunch of people who have never made anything to give there opinion ( as a consumer ) of something they know nothing about.

      Maybe I'm not making my point. Where are the links to other low-budget CGI effects demonstrations posted by the people who are working on them? Where are the links to the open source projects that probably made the movie in the article possible? Where are the rants about the guy who made the film is an asshole on alt.film.cgi.prague? Where are the links to the tutorials on how to make a CGI robot look like it deforms the ground when it walks, so you can say, "Thats easy, look here is a cgi of a 300ft tall version of me wading through Manhattan like the opening of Rescue Me".

    3. Re:I hate the internet ( and you ) and slashot by cffrost · · Score: 1

      [...] not one person has discussed *HOW* he did it?

      He used special effects.

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  80. I wish I could do this by i_ate_god · · Score: 1

    $300? How?

    Camera
    Rendering
    Software

    alone that's more than $300, even if you consider that he used Blender to do the robots and ships.

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    1. Re:I wish I could do this by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      You can get a 720p camera for $150. If you're uploading to Youtube, it'll work fine.

      However, I agree he didn't include equipment costs.

  81. Giving Credit Where Due? by Auto_Lykos · · Score: 1

    I was watching this thinking, hey, that music sounds awfully familiar? Dug through my music collection and found the music in the video (Which does add a good deal of the "awesome" factor.) is a splicing of the song "In The House- In A Heartbeat" from the original soundtrack of 28 Days Later by John Murphy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYYEDXaGo0

  82. Seen this before... by SinGunner · · Score: 1

    The guy made a cheap, uninteresting version of Casshern in Portugese or Spanish or whatever. Not impressed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk9fGI90qdM Have a robot, ninja, super-evolved zombie cut through a robot with a karate chop and I'll start paying attention.

  83. if only it had by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    some sharks with frickin' laser beams, he would have gotten a 600 mil deal...

  84. The day is coming where we don't need talent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Consumer grade equipment is getting better all the time, perhaps holywood won't be needed."

    Equipment does not an artists make. Any more than does a kitchen make a chef. If Hollywood wasn't needed then Mr Fede Alvarez could have made his own $30 Million without Ghost House's help.

  85. Sergei Eisenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone catch that stroller-going-down-the-staircase-thing from "The Battleship Potemkin". If this actually gets made as a film it might be pretty good with that kind of attitude. The wave of big budget apocalypse moves coming out have avoided a lot of the more interesting aspects of the paranoia that Hollywoods been cashing in on. And a wink to the most famous old school Soviet Propaganda movie makes the subtext a hell of a lot more interesting then most of the garbage that gets shoveled out.

  86. Ugandan Currency? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    I was going to suggest that perhaps they were meaning in Ugandan dollars but looking it up Uganda uses the Schilling and it would be a budget of almost 59 billion of those.

    1. Re:Ugandan Currency? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Uraguay. Not Uganda. You missed by about 6,000 miles. (Thanks, Wolfram Alpha!)

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  87. Missing the point? by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A cgi bonanza with an annoying shakeycam and no acting. Truly original, and exactly what Hollywood needs to renew itself!

    I'm thinking you're missing the point. If I were Hollywood, I'd be interested in this not because of the plot or the acting, but because the guy made a pretty impressive scene with lots of pretty sophisticated special effects on a shoestring budget.

    If I were Sam Raimi, I'd be thinking, "If he can do that for $500, even if $500 is exaggerated and it actually cost him a grand or two, then for $300 million, I could probably get a hell of a lot more bang (literally) for my bucks than I'd get using traditional Hollywood special effects studios."

    The "cgi bonanza" is likely precisely what they're interested in, not the shakeycam or acting.

  88. Worked for District 9 by mac1235 · · Score: 1

    Neil Blomkamp rocks!

  89. Technical Details Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, how, exactly, did he do this for $300? Did he do all the models and rendering in Blender, or what? How did he shoot it, and how did he then combine the rendering with the live action?

    I've played with various modeling, animation, and rendering tools. It's really, really painstaking work. And nice renderings take a ridiculous amount of time on computers. I know that they are fast nowadays, but, still, you need either a bunch of computers or CUDA working for you. Did he fail to mention that maybe he used his Univ. cluster to do rendering, or something like that?

    Take a look at the videos by people at Blender: http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/movies/ Some of them are well done, but they don't have this nice combination of live action with the rendered. I'm calling BS on this until I know a little more.

  90. emails read by poached · · Score: 1

    'I uploaded (Panic Attack!) on a Thursday and on Monday my inbox was totally full of e-mails from Hollywood studios,'

    From: 20th Century Fox
    To: Youtube video winer
    Subject: you won 300 million US

    Congratulations Mr. Alvarez! Your youtube entry was the lucky winner of our video sweepstakes. To collect your lumpsum of 300 million US dollars please send a small processing fee of 2000 US dollars so we can begin releasing the funds to you. Once your payment has been processed you will be contacted for an account to deposit the funds to. Please do not delay!

    Regards,
    Mr. Jones.

  91. Turns out he is a big PR man - check his showreel by fantomas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Turns out he's a big PR agency guy - makes adverts for Pepsi and the like presumably for national prime time tv, for some sized budget. So it's not so much "young art school student and mates make $300 movie and gets lucky" more like "talented, experienced, well connected ad. movie maker in the media business makes fun film in spare time when he's not directing SFX heavy corporate videos and gets a step up to making feature films". More of a case of media people talking to each other than famous director's teenaged son asking his dad to watch something kewl him and his mates are all watching at school. Check his website showreel.

    But fair play to the man. Still got a bit of a break. Go for it. I am really liking the fact that aliens are landing somewhere other than New York or LA for a change. (if you were aliens I wonder how you'd choose where to land? biggest cities? means Mexico and India have to be in with a shout!). District 9 had some nice African angles, I'd be interested to see how a Uruguayan angled sci-fi film might look.

  92. Volume to 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flash BBC Media Center volume goes to 11, that makes my day.

  93. Viral Marketing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every bet, that the Raimi deal was negotiated beforehand and this small movie (which scriptwise isn't very good) is only part of a viral marketing strategy.

  94. Re:That sucks on so many levels by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    6. Shaky cams suck, PERIOD.

    True. But it lets producers get away with cheaper CG and less talented actors. It's the "Jay Leno at 10pm" production model (a.k.a. "Who cares how popular it is, it's cheap as dirt, so our markup percentage is through the roof.")

    4. Robot attack formation is VERY poor

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize we had people here who had extensively studied the military doctrine of asymmetrical conflict involving giant humanoid robot combined infantry/artillery. What academy do you go to for that, anyway?

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  95. This is a new idea... by seandiggity · · Score: 1

    ...because giant alien robots and spacecraft are trashing a city? Oh, right. It's doesn't take place in the U.S.

    Scratch that, it probably will. Aliens don't usually plan one-country invasions. Anyone wanna take bets on whether this will be better or worse than Transformers 3?

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  96. Ideas? by Al+Al+Cool+J · · Score: 1

    Don't get me wrong, it was a well made short film, and the special effect were impressive, but as far as I recall the extent of the idea was aliens blowing the crap out of Montevideo, with the explosions getting bigger and bigger. Granted that's probably as good a plotline as Transformers 2, but all in all, I would rather see money go to somebody that has shown they can write a good story, and not just map out action scenes.

  97. I call shenanigans on $300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I call shenanigans on that "$300" budget. If he could do that for $300 - he wouldn't NEED Hollywood backing.

    Lessee.. he did about 5 minutes for $300, that's about $60 bucks/minute, so a 90 minute feature would only be about $5,400. Aw, hell, let's give him a round $6 grand for the picture.

    Did you see his credit list? I bet $300 didn't even cover the catering. To say nothing of the extras running through the street.

    Or maybe everybody runs home from work at the end of the day in Montevideo. Maybe that's just rush hour.

    and yes "NoYob" it's just "Sky Captain ATWOT". Which I believe only cost $12 to make in some guys living room.

    [NOTE: This post only cost $5.95 to produce]

  98. Very cool techniques.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's very cool. But we know the story now.

    (I guess most Hollywood movies condense into something about that short though)

  99. Terrorism? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    If he had used a USA locale for his CG creations, he might be in Guantanamo instead of Hollywood by now.

    Or, uh, are we past that now?

  100. Summary title - powers of ten by Krioni · · Score: 1

    So, is it a $300 video gets a $30 million deal, like the title, or a $30 video gets a $300 million movie deal?

    Based on the comments from people who appear to have RTFA, it seems the title is correct: $300 / $30 million. I sure hope whoever wrote that summary is working in entertainment and not engineering. Hollywood gets things wrong by a factor of ten all the time and no one dies, right?

    [ Come on, that's a softball - someone post a good response. ]

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  101. Good production values sums it up by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

    Good visual effects - check
    Epic music - check
    Illogical plot (certainly dropping a bomb would be easier than marching through Uruguay) - check

    Yep, he is certainly Hollywood material. :P

    1. Re:Good production values sums it up by Kuruk · · Score: 1

      What he said

  102. it's a copy of another short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is a copy of another short film... 2004

    http://www.vimeo.com/6966258