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PS3 Jailbreaks Galore Released
YokimaSun writes "Following up on yesterday's story about the PS3 being hacked by one of its own official controllers, there's now a guide in English that details how to mod a Sixaxxis controller. But thanks to the very latest releases, if you don't like soldering you can now use an iPod, a Pandora console or even a Dingoo console. Finally, Jaicrab has released a USB firmware loader which will come in handy once the first custom firmware for the PS3 is released. Maybe then we will get region-free Blu-ray, PS1 and PS2 games."
Following up on yesterday's story about the PS3 being hacked by one of its own official controllers, there's now a guide in English that details how to mod a Sixaxxis controller.
If by "official controllers" you mean "a microcontroller mounted inside the shell of an official controller", sure. Or you could save yourself the work and just keep the microcontroller outside by itself.
(And the exploit is still blocked by new firmwares, so it's still not terribly exciting.)
Just punch this into the controller:
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I sold my ps3 back when they took away my OtherOS abilities. Now I'm almost sad to see it disappear now that so many options are open to me.
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The summary makes it sound like the ps3 controller was first, but there have been lots of compatible devices, especially android phones, also listed here.
http://psfreedom.com/wiki/Device_compatibility_list
If you're going to make a guide telling people where to solder chips onto a board, you should really, REALLY make the effort to have those pictures be in focus.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
The PS2 was thoroughly broken via crafted PS1 memory save, yet the PS2 and games live quite a healthy life, only diminished by new technology, not via piracy.
Sony's best move would have been to give more freedom in developing and sideloading apps front and center in the XMB. As many have said, given homebrew access to everything, the only remaining interested party for jailbreaking would be pirates, which seem to largely piggyback on the homebrew devs to do all the hard work. Discless play option for all games delivered via disc would be nice too (main reason I did the PS2 was to load all my games from HD. I legitimately own maybe 60 PS2 discs and I hate managing physical media.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Taking a guess, you must be a game developer. While I'm sure it's nice in a business sense that Sony can tell developers and publishers that their console is invincible to hacking, nothing like that can last forever. Ultimately, everything is cracked; it's just a matter of how much time it takes. Personally I am pleased at the level of enthusiasm the techie community is displaying towards cracking the PS3 because it will, for better or worse, eventually lead to a more open system.
And for the record, if you are a game developer, you shouldn't believe the hyperbole and propaganda that Sony and the major game publishers no doubt tell you about the dangers of piracy. It is a popular scapegoat for big companies that don't sell their media as well as they'd like, or that just want greater control over their products post-sale, but there's never been any solid evidence to connect high piracy rates with low or no sales. Just because the PS3 has been broken doesn't mean that sales of PS3 games are going to drop flat.
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
"Collective"?
Not me.
I think these attempts are inevitable and ultimately will lead to manufacturers who leave products more open and those who lock them down with biometrics thighter than a you know what.
Peter Drucker (& other management experts) said "Eliminate everything that doesn't benefit the consumer".
It is up to the innovative producer of products to make a compelling case for their product and not just a hook with handcuffs, that the consumer will buy into long term.
I understand manufacturers and distributors will come and go. That is what happens in a dynamic business, and is why ANY business that wants to last had better innovate continually, or...THEY WILL BE FOOTNOTES IN HISTORY.
Why? How does having a "cracked" machine necessarily hurt your income? Are you afraid of piracy? Well, what of the people who paid money for a feature, only to have that feature removed by a software update that had to be installed or else you lost other features? You're income apparently depends on stealing from people. I find that distasteful.
Seriously, though. If you are a games programmer, are you worried about piracy? The Playstation has the ability to sell download only games, why couldn't you switch to that instead of discs, require your game to log in to the Playstation Network to play, and if it doesn't have a sale of your game to that account on record, disable the game? Many games already require a log-in (meaning that there are games I now cannot play because I chose the ability to run linux as the feature I would keep when Sony decided to steal that or online play from me), so it's not like it would be too much to ask for...
As a note, I also have a jailbroken iPhone. Many people depend on that for their income (hardware designers, programmers). Yet, I have never pirated software for it. Hardware people got paid when I bought it (boy did they get paid...), app developers have gotten paid through Apple's App Store (I've spent way too much money, though I don't pay for stupid games...I wait until the developer releases them for free trials or special days), and even developers through Cydia have been paid (Over Board, here's looking at you...). I find it distasteful that you seem to think that because I support hacking my PS3 that I'm the one who is an immoral thief out to steal your babies' food money. In fact, I find it rather insulting. However, I'm willing to let that slide.
So please, why do you find this so distasteful? I think having a reasoned, sober opinion from "the other side" would be a healthy addition to the debate on PS3 Jailbreaking.
It may lead to a more open PS3, but will result in the PS4 being considerably less open as an attempt to counter the hacking.
That said, piracy drives sales of consoles and many of those pirates will buy some legit games as well as various accessories which they wouldn't have bought otherwise.
When the Amiga was a big gaming platform a few years ago the reason most people had bought one was because they could copy games between their friends (as opposed to cartridge based console systems of the time where this wasn't easy to do), this wasn't organised large scale piracy, one guy buys a game and shares it with his school friends. I doubt overall sales of games went down, it just meant that kids could spend their limited pocket money and get more games to play.
I also know a number of people who have had xbox 360 and wii systems for a few years, but held off on buying a ps3 because there was no way to get free games for it. Most of these people have several accessories for their consoles, as well as a handful of non pirated games.
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I think the best thing to come from a cracked console has to be XBMC..
The media playback abilities on the default xbox or ps2 was pretty limited, restricted to just dvd media... Newer generation consoles are better but still fairly limited in what formats they support, for non high def content it's still very hard to beat a first gen xbox running xbmc.
For the record, i do agree with you on the emulators... i was quite disappointed to see the first ps3 homebrew apps were basically emulators for old consoles... If i wanted to play ancient games, i can already emulate them on a pc or i could buy original consoles and a huge selection of games on ebay for far less than the cost of a ps3.
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Haven't been following these developments too closely, but does anyone know if this jailbreak will eventually (or already does) allow installing a Linux distro on a jailbroken PS3?
Removing the OtherOS option really pissed off a lot of people (including a friend of mine who wanted to try his hand at some Cell development) and while I admit the machine didn't quite seem powerful enough to run full-on X/* comfortably (and forget compiz/etc) it still had its uses for many of us tinkerers (yes yes, small crowd).
Emulators simply make sense though as one of the first things ported. When you port a SNES emulator you are in essence allowing 785+ games to be played, port a NES emulator and you are letting 798+ games be played, etc. Original content is good, but an emulator is quick to port and pretty useful.
If you were going to write something for a console to be the first thing someone downloaded, do you want it to be an original game that would take a year or so to be fully playable, bug free, or would you rather do a quick port of a SNES emulator so people can -do- something with their newly cracked console?
I for one, think emulators are fantastic on consoles because just think about it, every game you've every played during your childhood you have on a single console. No more blinking red LED of the NES, no more swapping cartridges, no more scratched disks, lessened loading times, etc.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
Read this please http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3550556/ive-found-my-software-as-cracked-download-on-internet-what-to-do
How can I get the firmware this thing is compatible with? I waited on geohot (way to pull through in the clutch bud!) and at 3.21 I think. (had to update for a game) So now I can't get to the exploitable firmware since the new one has been released. Are there any games that require the exploitable one?
You might be interested in these numbers:
339170 Homebrew Channel installations ( http://hackmii.com/2010/08/the-scope-of-homebrew-channel/ ). Of 70mil Wiis ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii )
We are talking about about 0.5% of the consoles having been "homebrew enabled", this is pretty much a required step for running 'backups' on the Wii. (Not all homebrew installs are for piracy, but a lot are) Yes, piracy happens, but only in a small amount. And the Wii is ridiculously easy to hack.
I already have a region free ps1/ps2/dvd player. It's called a launch PS2
I hear that drinking pineapple juice helps with the taste.
<leans back in easy chair and sips drink>
It sounds so.. childish. I also hate that people think it's cool to adapt the name for other things.
Well, what's the average age of the people who actually care about jailbreaking?
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As someone who believes what you buy is YOURS, I find your disdain for freedom to be extremely distasteful.
It's been YEARS since I pirated anything, but I did miss the ability to run Linux and SDL applications on the PS3. Hooking up your laptop to the TV is NOT accomplishing the same thing!
Maybe you should be saying "Gee, I wish Sony did not deliberately lie about their advertised features and that they did not engage in collective punishment. "
It's a pity, because Sony DID do a good job at opening up the PS3 to Linux while still protecting software developers. Now it looks like they only promised Linux support to gain competitive advantage against the Xbox, and it's not needed anymore.
I hope one of your software vendors arbitrarily disables some feature in your development tools, just to teach you how inconsiderate you are. That is what Sony did to us.
Im sure there is evidence to support the disassociation between piracy and sales. You just have to compare multiplatform games (games on ps3 and xbox360). When you get games that sell equally well on both consoles, yet one of them (the xbox360) has been "cracked" for a very long time, that says to me that piracy makes such a small dent in sales.
Sony already blew it by pulling OtherOS. If the PS4 is less open, then, as usual, chances are it will be attacked earlier and by more dedicated homebrew hackers, and it will lead to piracy earlier. The PS3 was the most open system this generation, and also the one that lasted the longest without piracy. This isn't a coincidence. Sony can either learn the lesson and open up the PS4, or not do so and end up like all the others (somewhat outdated table).
And for the record, if you are a game developer, you shouldn't believe the hyperbole and propaganda that Sony and the major game publishers no doubt tell you about the dangers of piracy. It is a popular scapegoat for big companies that don't sell their media as well as they'd like, or that just want greater control over their products post-sale, but there's never been any solid evidence to connect high piracy rates with low or no sales. Just because the PS3 has been broken doesn't mean that sales of PS3 games are going to drop flat.
Sorry, that's just not true. The first game I worked on was a PC title. When we released it, it didn't sell spectacularly, but did pretty well, with a noticeable day-by-day increase in sales. Yes, you can get day-by-day sale reports in some places. :)
Of course, we watched gamecopyworld and friends for the first cracks to show up and literally the day the game got cracked, sales dropped like a rock. Well, actually, they were still pretty stable for a while, just at a much, much lower level.
Sure, if you're Call of Duty you still make money, just a good chunk less. If you are an independent studio, you may just have to close shop.
And if you're a console manufacturer? Well, you make your money off of the per-unit license fees (and I guess off of subscription, if you're Microsoft). If those go down, you're in trouble, as you just sold your hardware at a loss.
If you're at the point where you sell hardware at a profit, it might actually be good for the manufacturer, because you will move lots of boxes. The gamedevs are still screwed, though.
> Read this please
Okay. I don't really have the inclination to read every single post and comment in that large thread, but I read the question and some of the highest-ranked answers. The top-rated answer, by Dana Holt, presents a good argument but there are problems with her post. On a pedantic level she compares copyright infringement to physical theft, which is sure to aggravate anyone in the piracy debate and should be avoided. If she has been debating it for years as she claims, she ought to know that speaking in such a way is just an inflammatory thing to do. Additionally, she says that she was able to produce raw data that connected a keygen with low sales, but I do not see any citations for her claims, or any of the actual data. Plus, how does she know that none of the keys she revoked were legitimate, or used by legitimate customers?
I'm just not sure what you wanted me to come away with from linking me to that. It just demonstrates that there is a wide variety of opinions in the piracy debate, and that none of them can be convincingly substantiated with evidence because of the nature of the problem.
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
I was noticing the stacks of legit games I have for the various systems. They seem to correspond directly with how easy it is to run the games without the original media. XBox, DS and Wii have the most, followed PS2. I have zero games for the PS3 or 360 (although the biggest obstacle seems to have been removed which was the fact that you have to send it back to MS for repairs on a regular basis)
To be fair, I do have more Atari 2600 games than any of the others, but those were all garage sale purchases during the PS1 time frame.
You mean the machine that they sold *AS A COMPUTER*, not just a console, and then crippled the functionality of in an update?
Yes, it will lead to piracy. All platforms have piracy. Game sales have still been phenomenal for the last 15 years.
It will also lead to people getting the functionality *they paid for* back on devices they own.
And my income has depended on game sales as well, so take your holier-than-thou stance and stuff it.
The existence of a video game market, and the fact that no one has found an unbreakable DRM proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that your analysis is wrong.
*Plus, how does she know that none of the keys she revoked were legitimate, or used by legitimate customers?* You keep a database of issued valid keys. You would have know this if you had read the entire article. Why do you expect people to provide their work to you for free? There exist a lot of material that is free for you to use with the blessing of those who created it so why don't you just stick to that subset?
> Of course, we watched gamecopyworld and friends for the first cracks to show up and literally the day the game got cracked, sales dropped like a rock.
You know, I've been following the piracy debate for a while, and I have seen this claim and others like it on the Internet many times. There are just two problems with them. One is that they're never backed up with any sort of data that inconclusively demonstrates that piracy killed sales; readers are forced to take the poster at his word. Two, they always start and stop with individual posts on various forums. If piracy were really a big enough problem that it could massacre sales of a game, information about it would be all over the Internet. As it is, I have -never- seen actual evidence that piracy is anything but an Internet boogeyman, or that it does any substantial harm, or that harsh copyright enforcement measures are justified. I think that the need for actual evidence on the antipirates' side is so great that anything solid at all would quickly become popular and well-known. Since there is nothing solid, I have to assume that claims such as "piracy kills sales" are misleading or just false.
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
> Why do you expect people to provide their work to you for free?
This is a bad question.
First of all, you can't make assumptions about my motives. Nowhere in any of my posts have I said that I pirate software. Don't make personal attacks in order to legitimize your own position.
Two, the wording of your question is biased towards copyright holders. I see questions like yours quite a bit, and I just now realized how slanted they are. Your question assumes that a copyright holder has to somehow go out of their way to provide their work for free, as you said, but in most cases of piracy the copyright holder has to do nothing at all except release the original work, which is what happens anyway. The phrasing of your question adds undeserved emotional weight to your position by implying that those evil pirates are forcing the poor artist to proactively do something which benefits only them and screws the artist. It's dishonest.
A better question would have been "Why do you expect to have access to the work of others for free?" but my first point about personal attacks would still apply.
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
Keep in mind that the only damage done by piracy is from those who would have bought it otherwise. In the case of a $5 indie game, you may say that more would be inclined to buy it because of its much more appealing price (leaving aside the issue of game quality), but the indie game wouldn't have anywhere near the market exposure that the $60 professional title would have. Piracy helps these small indie games by spreading mindshare of the game, and if the game in question is good, more people will know about it and buy it. If the game developer encourages, accepts or tolerates sharing of the game, that will get them some goodwill from the fans as well.
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
Allow me to advocate for the devil.
As a customer I find it distasteful that for the last three years (about) the PS3 have been devoid of piracy while the XBox 360 have not, yet there is no discernible difference in game price between the two platforms, and to celebrate three years of no piracy, Sony's been busy removing features from the console. So explain to me why I should care about piracy on the PS3? There are no negatives for me. If it becomes widespread it's likely prices on originals will DROP (yes, really. See also "PC Gaming"), and it'll also probably open up the features Sony removed and add more -- maybe a good media player will appear, you know, the kind Sony should have been giving is if they weren't totally schizofrenic (mp3 bad! mp3 players good!, etc). For a consumer, even one that isn't going to actually use copies, it seems like a win. More piracy equals more features and less expensive games.
Besides, both platforms are already too old to be destroyed by it.
Belief is the currency of delusion.
That's nice. Maybe you could ask sony to stop pissing in the face of their customers, and laughing manically that it's a wonderful warm rain.
That aside, sony reaps what it sows. And consumers will say "enough", and revolt.
Om, nomnomnom...
Of course, we watched gamecopyworld and friends for the first cracks to show up and literally the day the game got cracked, sales dropped like a rock.
That doesn't even make sense. The people who are following game cracks or whatever on a day by day basis are not the ones buying games. Therefore to say that "literally" the day the crack got released your sales significantly dropped because of it is just false. The only way this could possibly be close to true (and still wouldn't be the same day) is if people who weren't buying your game to begin with played the cracked version, realized it sucked and recommended to people not to play it because it's not worth the money. Even then I would say you would have to wait a week before you saw any change in sales. Maybe next time you should try making a game that doesn't suck and people will actually recommend? because in reality you were the one(s) stealing money from individuals and providing them with something not worth the money.
If piracy were really a big enough problem that it could massacre sales of a game, information about it would be all over the Internet.
Some of it is. If you look around, independent developers will sometimes post actual numbers and they are often quite impressive. For larger companies, you really, really don't want to give your investors the idea that your income will implode after some random number of days. Ever wonder why you cannot really get sales numbers for unsuccessful titles? :)
Anyway, companies are actively working to mitigate this effect. This is why multiplayer with a centralized authentication scheme is so popular these days.
But again, you'd have to take my word for that, as I naturally can't post anyone's real numbers.
In any case, go to a pub with a bunch of game devs. Get them drunk, then ask.
And I find your desire to control what I do with my electronics beyond merely distasteful.
I have cracked my PS3. I have loaded a couple of games onto the hard drive, from discs that I own. I've played around with the ftp server and the firmware loader to see what happens when I change things. I'm interested in being able to run linux on there again, maybe even with graphics acceleration this time. I would really like to get mplayer going in under GameOS so that the PS3 could play a wider range of media.
If Sony had not taken linux away, and had not crippled it in the first place, there wouldn't be so many people interested in this and it would be far easier to declare those doing so "pirates", though likely still not 100% accurate. As it is you have a lot of people interested in the freedom to use their device as they see fit, and damned straight they're all pushing in the same direction as those that fly under the Jolly Roger right now.
I'm sorry if you worry for your income stream, that would shake me too, but get your head out of your ass before calling it distasteful, please.
Welll.... then you are being selfish and amoral. Sincerely, you are putting your immediate needs above the rights, morality, and ethics of the environment you work in.
I can appreciate that you have a financial interest, but I find it extremely distasteful that your financial interest trumps my right to peaceably enjoy my property.
Keep in mind please that I never "pirated" my console. I paid for it hard earned currency in my own job I do each and every day. Your financial interests aside, I have an absolute and irrevocable right based on sound moral and ethical principles to do with my property as I wish. Not as you wish, but as I wish. I don't tell you that your microwave can't be used for popcorn do I? That your PC must run a specific linux distro? Then why do you get to tell me what I do with my PS3?
You don't get to do that, and neither does Sony. This is fact well before we even start to consider the issues of piracy that are possible when people get to fully enjoy their private property. Piracy is merely an issue used to distract us from the real moral and ethical foundations of this situation.
Please believe me, I am not flaming you here. It is not my intention to do so. However, I cannot remain silent and not tell you that I find your behavior distasteful. Specifically, the behavior of "settling for less". We all do it every day. Allowing things to continue that we know is wrong, but it becomes necessary for our way of life, our standards of living to continue unabated.
Although your income may be at stake here, I urge you to at least acknowledge that you have no right to control what we do with our hardware.
I am no hypocrite either. I acknowledge that my purchase of my laptop contributed to a significant amount of suffering in third world countries (and China). My very way of life in the US is founded upon the continued suffering and exploitation of other countries. I get that. What I don't do is claim it is distasteful when those other countries attempt to improve their lot in life and raise our prices over here.
I bought a Wii ONLY because it could be cracked. We wanted a way to watch Netflix and could've afforded the PS3, Xbox 360 or Wii. I bought the Wii because it was easy to crack - no hardware needed. I haven't bought a console before this since.... the super nintendo (really.) Me and my wife just don't play games (we're twenty somethings, not old fogies.) We bought the Wii for Netflix. The fact that I cracked it and burned some games I don't own doesn't hurt any game studio. Because we NEVER WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE GAME OR THE SYSTEM in the first place. If anything it might turn us non-gamers who would never spend money on something into gamers.
I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. - Hunter S. Thompson
"As someone who believes what you buy is YOURS, I find your disdain for freedom to be extremely distasteful."
If you believe that then doesn't it follow that something isn't yours until you buy it, yet you admit to pirating?
"Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon."
Not to mention I've seen this old chestnut drug out as an excuse why some seriously shitty games bombed. Take Titan Quest, which I had both the demo and the game itself which I picked up from the bargain bin (ended up giving it away) and had a nice argument with one of the developers on a fourm because he accused me of hacking BOTH the game AND the demo because I dared to point out the game was glitchy as hell, with lots of dropping frames for no reason and plenty of CTD. I never could get this bozo to explain why someone would crack a fricking demo (it isn't like they gave you the whole game in the demo) or why someone who already owned the game would go to the trouble of cracking it with it sitting right it front of them. I heard later a bunch of the problems could be traced to their shitty homebrew DRM code that basically would glitch and assume EVERYONE was a pirate.
But the simple fact is you make it easy, you make it affordable, and people WILL buy. I have bought more games from GoG in this past year than I had in the three years before, yet every single game they have I could have gotten cracked. so why did I pay? Because they made it easy, once logged in it is just two clicks to buy a game, they made it affordable, with no game being over $10 it is impulse buy city there, they gave me MORE value by giving me x64 support and adding extras like soundtracks, and the lack of DRM means I don't have to worry about DRM hosing my PC (I'm looking at YOU Starforce!) so I bought. Treat me like a customer that you care about and I'll gladly hand you my money. Treat me like a dirty rotten thief whom you want to kick in the nuts whether I give you my money or not, and why should I give a shit about you and your business?
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
The PS3 was the most open system this generation, and also the one that lasted the longest without piracy.
The PS3 wasn't ever really open; the minute it became open (you could actually use all the hardware) they took away Linux. Running in a hypervisor doesn't count as open, you can't even trust the machine.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
you keep posting link to that question, but it's quite... suboptimal, as some person already responded to your first posting of that link : http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1799844&cid=33704576
Rich
"(And the exploit is still blocked by new firmwares, so it's still not terribly exciting.)"
But it means they will have to update the firmware, perhaps they will actually include something interesting.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Actually it just makes me date the hell out of myself, because every time I see it I end up singing the old Thin Lizzy tune..."Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak, somewhere in this town, tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak, so don't you be around"...which makes my GF look at me like I'm nuts, which is followed by her playing her God Awful country collection to get that "stupid song" out of her head....yep, I think I hate it too. Bad hackers, bad! Change the name so I won't get tortured by Trace Atkins anymore....please?
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
There's quite a few nifty things put out in the PSP scene, probably in part because every PSP to date has been hacked for homebrew, but most of them don't support booting ISOs because they're mostly userland hacks and not kernel mode hacks.
By suboptimal you mean it shows a sales increase when steps are taken to reduce piracy which make it inconvenient for those who say that piracy harms no one. What happened to if you don't have the money you save until you do or you do without?
You can thank idiots like Geohot for that.
It's like this : You've saved your allowance for a few months, so you could buy a racing game that you've really wanted. You get home with it, but in that time, your Mom has read that a video game was used as the reason a kid in Norway wrecked his Dad's car, so she takes the game away from you. It kinda makes sense, at some really absurd level, but not really. Your finger-pointing at (uber-cool) GeoHot makes about as much sense.
SONY marketed the machine to us as being able to run Linux, they sold it as a feature, and they encouraged anyone and everyone to develop that feature. If they have issues with the direction that the open market was going with it, then they are obliged to either supply the other OS, or leave the capacity to enable booting the other OS as a customer-determined security risk. Their removal of the OtherOS feature is theft.
SONY is the enemy, and shills like you are the true idiots. SONY doesn't deserve to be in an open market.
Disc-based games can and do have firmware updates on the disc itself. Don't be surprised if Castlevania: Lords of Shadow forces you to install firmware 3.42 (if you don't have that or newer) to run it; 3.50 is too new to be on the disc as the game goes on sale in less than two weeks.
GLaDOS for President 2016! "Well here we are again. It's always such a pleasure." -- GLaDOS, 2011
well at least the ps3 wasn't a test bed for drm to be implemented on the desktop. *looks at the xbox line up*
This pretty much hits the nail on the head, I am 2 of those installs... One I have chipped and the other I have just soft moded. (BTW chipping is better for piracy)
Yeah hacking the Wii is a cake walk, but just pirating a PC game is way beyond 90% of the human population... (heck just installing it on the right hardware and getting it to play right is a huge challenge to some people...) I guess my point is that as a very tech oriented person I see hacking the Wii as super easy, but to most people it looks like voodoo witch craft combined with brain surgery.
I mean my soft moded Wii I used the Zelda hacked save file to install the home brew channel. The steps are easy but as a test see if you can tell some one else how to do it with out helping them very much.... Most people will say "Whats the root of an SD card????" or "I installed the hack on my SD card where is the home brew channel?"
As one of my friends said to me "Pimpin ain't easy!"
How I would love it for people to feel the other side of the coin, and have everything they worked for taken away without any renumeration.
What the $$#$ is wrong with people. Get a job and pay for you're video games.
Some people are so dumb.
> By suboptimal you mean it shows a sales increase when steps are taken to reduce piracy which make it inconvenient for those who say that piracy harms no one. /claiming/ that sales dropped with the introduction of keygens and rose when she implemented antipiracy measures. It does not in any way represent evidence that piracy causes substantial harm overall. I already told you this, so please stop repeating falsehoods.
No, it doesn't. It has one poster
That Anonymous Coward guy is pretty annoying. Can we have the government censor him or something?
... I find slashdot's collective hardon for the cracking of the machine somewhat distasteful.
I think I can speak for the majority of slashdotters when I say "Thanks for sharing, but we don't give a fuck."
"How much of an idiot do you someone who read that is"
You read it and judging by the standard of grammar in your response it's clear you're a total fucking retard.
Agreed. It's about as dumb as calling copyright infringement "theft." They might as well call it "jailrape."
Tell you what: how about you look around and post a link here, rather than trying to lead everyone else on a wild goose chase? 'Cause otherwise nobody's going to believe you.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
No, I don't, and I'm 58. My 23 year old daughter doesn't think so, either. I'm going to have to disabuse her of the notion that if she gets a MacBook Pro she'll have to jailbreak it to install Linux or Windows on it. Apple's "walled garden" for their iPads and iPhones and iPods seems to have hurt their image to the point that people think their computers are in the walled garden as well.
If they called it "walled garden breaking", now that might sound a little childish. I think "jailbreakig" is an apt term; when you jailbreak a device you give yourself more freedom.
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Flamebait? I see I may have to metamod tonight. I found your comment to be insightful, especially the part where you said "What I find distasteful is that you believe you have any fucking right to tell me how I can and cannot use the goddamn property I own". The petulance in your tone is called for, in my view.
The GP sounds like the ebook publishers Cory Doctorow rails against in the forward to Makers:
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There is a semantic problem with this association:
There exists a fairly sizable pool of people (at least in the PC software end of the swimming pool anyway) that legitimately purchase software, only to have it broken by the vendor in one way or another. (DRM, limited activations, etc...)
These people then rightly resort to "Piracy" (Going to GameCopyWorld, et al, to get a crack for their legitimately owned software) to get the equity they paid for.
This causes a problem with people who use the availability or the "in the wild" populations of hacked installations of software as a metric for piracy; It is only truly piracy if those installations are not also accompanied by a legitimately purchased license for use.
Likewise-- if I have already purchased the game previously, but my 3 year old child has decided that the game disc in the brightly colored case looked like it would be fun to "play with"--, how does the physical destruction of the original medium invalidate my intangible license to USE that software? How is it morally reprehensible to download a replacement for the destroyed physical copy, when I have already purchased a license? Why should I be forced to purchase an additional license?
These two (and actually several others too) cases call into question the raw data metric for piracy, which is already abysmally low in terms of the percentage of the consumer population that engages in it. --They pretty much delegate the "arch-typical Pirate" that sings Yo Ho HO while they download 500GB of game titles they don't have licenses for to the fringe of being LESS than 1/2 of 1% of the consumer population (the estimated "total piracy" rate in most software markets is about 1/2 of 1%, last I read. The fact that there are people just trying to get their equity out of their purchases included in this statistic means that the ACTUAL piracy rate (those people who DONT have licenses) is actually lower than this.)
...I could play even regionally locked PS2 games on my PS3 (Yes... call me a hypocrite...) I can't buy into the notion that a newer PS3 is unable to play PS2 games but can play PS1 games.
Dude, if your and your girlfriend's musical tastes are such that you each hate what the other one loves, you need a new girlfriend. I know if my girlfriend started playing Trace Atkins I'd be looking for a new one.
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Haven't you ever heard of opposites attract? she is a daywalker, I'm a nightowl, she likes country, I like Rammstein, she loves to spend hours riding me like a pony....well I can't really argue with that one. Seriously she is sweet, adorable, doesn't judge or bitch if I'm a little late, hell even gets along with my family. After some of the serious whackos I've dealt with I think I'll keep my sweetie, thanks anyway. Besides that is why we geeks have tech, she wants to listen to that crap I can just whip out my Sandisk and load up some Zombie to drown it out. Ever have your girl climb up your body while "Living Dead Girl" is blasting on the phones? I HIGHLY recommend it!
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Hmmm, good point. However, I like to feel the bass when I'm listening to Zombie or Thin Lizzie or especially Rammstein; headphones just don't cut it for me.
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Try some Memorex Gelphones. For an in the ear they have surprisingly good bass response. While it is nice to have that low end rumble (being a bass player that is one of my favorite things about playing the instrument) living in an apt it kinda kills the mood when she is juuuuust getting to the good stuff to have your neighbor beat on the door because he can't hear the tube over your fun. Nobody seems to complain that my GF is a screamer so I try to be a little respectful of my neighbors, although I thought she would die of embarrassment (I thought it was funny and took a bow) when some of the folks down the hall applauded when we left the apt the next day. But a relationship is all about compromise IMHO, and if she can put up with me spending half the night recording a song, then I can put up with her lousy taste in music.
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Ah, well if you're in an apartment you're not going to feel the bass anyway. I always hated apartments, for that and other reasons.
Who knows, both your musical tastes may expand and you'll enjoy her country and she'll like your rock. I know I like a lot of stuff now I hated when I was young.
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Actually you'll probably die laughing but I DO like some country, I just prefer what folks here call "real country" ala Waylon, Willie, Hank, and George. Those old uprights and Fender P-Basses had a nice warm wood tone, and to me the modern country sounds like American Idol with fiddles. While I can't stand more than small doses at a time (too depressing) when you are already in a funk a little George, like "He stopped loving her today" fits the mood perfectly.
As for apts, I am normally right there with ya, but I really got lucky with this place. it normally has a year and a half waiting list just to get in which when you consider I got a nice apt in the center of town with all utilities paid for just $300 in an area where it'll usually cost you $1300 with security deposits and another $500 a month just to live here, I really can't complain. Plus as long as I don't set my Trace Elliot to kill nobody seems to complain as long as I shut it off at a decent hour. I've got enough room we've set up the digital recorder and keyboard in one side of the living room and being in the center of town it makes it easy for the guitarist to just drop in after work and lay some tracks. So all in all, I really can't complain.
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I have no taste for those particular insults, as I have a few long time friends that are handicapped - but each to his own.
So how do you, if in fact you're not an idiot, work out that there wouldn't be so many people interested in hacking the PS3 if Sony had of not disabled Linux. You make NO sense. Sony had only disabled Linux in response to hackers using the feature as an exploit. There is also the fact that less than .01 percent of the user base had even installed Linux anyway...
Seems to me that you're just another simpleton trying to justify hacking.