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Steve Jobs Health Worries Escalate
PolygamousRanchKid writes with this sad snippet from the San Francisco Chronicle: "We all know that Steve Jobs is sick. What's not known is how sick he is, and that's worrying investors of Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) this morning, as well as everyone else. Jobs did have pancreatic cancer a few years ago, but he had a transplant and was able to come back to work. Last time, he gave some kind of time frame for returning to work. This time, he did not. Supposedly the National Enquirer is set to run pictures of Jobs with him looking frail and gaunt. Jobs was spotted leaving the Stanford Cancer Center in Palo Alto, California, according to RadarOnline.com."
who cares? let the man live his own life
Abdominal cancers are not fun. Pancreatic cancers are almost always fatal. I'm sure his wealth has probably bought him time... but you can't cheat death.
Leave him alone!
-Android Fanboy
The preceding message was based on actual events. Only the names, locations and events have been changed.
...everybody dies. Seriously.
hopefully he'll go like the pharoahs and bring the marketing department along with him to the afterlife.
microsoft will buy apple making it another nokia.
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I think Apple products are trendy crap. I can't stand the products or the users. I have an Android phone and I love it. I hope Android crushes iPhone. I also hope Steve gets better! I am still bothered by the way he pretended to invent multitasking instead of just admitting that he was catching up to Android, but good god people please quit wishing bad things on the guy. Let's just hope that he (along with people we don't even know) can be happy, in general. Hate the game, not the player. Or something?
and the reasons are multiple... - I don't own stock in Apple, its over priced anyway for a consumer electronics company. - Steve Jobs wouldn't give a crap if I was dying, nor would I get press for my health issues. - The market knows he is not the messiah, and Apple as a mega corp will continue on with the wisdom of many other vested parties. - Health issues should be private, kept private and not trivialized by news media. - Respect the privacy of others, too many people in the media don't. and the list goes on and one. Just make it a non story by wishing him the best and in the afterlife and if he is reborn he is more than a toad or troll for his massive good deeds to the people he has destroyed and belittled.
Long story short, Satan has come to collect his part of the agreement.
Posted anon, cause apple fanbois gave up their sense of humor in exchange for shiny things.
Any company that requires a specific individual to inspire confidence is, by default, in trouble. Few companies are in the position that Apple is in. How many CEO's could you name? Apple needs to get beyond the cult of leadership that currently surrounds them. I am sure that we still see similar product advances whether he is there as the pitchman or not.
Man, i may dump my savings into apple stock once it bottoms out after his death. There's going to be a massive unloading, we all know it.
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4d5c75d8cadcbbc41b160000/steve-jobs-sick.jpg
There's also a sensationalist headline over here:
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/02/17/steve-jobs-may-have-just-six-weeks-to-live-receiving-treatment/
The Daily Mail spoke to Dr Jerome Spunberg, a certified Oncologist, who said: âoeMr Jobs is most likely getting outpatient chemotherapy at Stanford because the cancer has recurred.â
Another consultant, Dr. Gabe Mirkin, a physician with over fourty years experience, said: âoeHe is terminal. What you are seeing is extreme muscle wasting from calorie depravation, most likely caused by cancer. He has no muscle left in his buttocks, which is the last place to go. He definitely appears to be in the terminal stages of his life from these photos. I would be surprised if he weighed more than 130lb.â
The National Enquirer, who initially reported the news today (to be published tomorrow), talked to critical-care physician Dr. Samuel Jacobson, who said, âoeJudging from the photos, he is close to terminal. I would say he has six weeks.â That said, given the reliability of The National Enquirer, waiting for further news before jumping to conclusions is advised.
Weâ(TM)ve done a little digging into Dr. Samuel Jacobson. Jacobson appears to be a Florida based pulmonologist (breathing doctor) â" not Oncologist. Which would naturally make you wonder just how qualified he is to diagnose someone via a photo, especially outside of his speciality.
The National Enquirer talks about running photos of Steve, and the entire news media gets a hard on and starts running stories on this. Has the media degraded so far that we are now counting the National Enquirer as a reliable news source?
The only people who are escalating the health worries here are the media itself to push for circulation. It's not news, it's bullshit. Thanks for contributing to the bullshit, Timothy.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
They scooped the John Edwards story.
Man, i may dump my savings into apple stock once it bottoms out after his death. There's going to be a massive unloading, we all know it.
Good point, some investors will dump stock the moment he dies. Buy then, and sell in the next year or two, when his actual influence filters out of the company and apple reverts to being just another mega-corp.
If you were really the gambling sort of vulture, you might even short some stock now and hope he is unhealthy as he looks.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
This item has only been up a few minutes, and already a lot of people are asking why this matters, why they should care. Here's why:
If you use a Mac, you should care about this.
Steve Jobs is unquestionably the driving force behind Apple. His return to Apple as the iCEO, followed by the introduction of new streamlined iMacs, the iPod, ... all demonstrated that Steve had returned to make Apple's mark on the industry. How many of the general population - not to mention us IT geeks - have an iPod? I look around my office and see high level executives using iPads. Steve made these a success. The same technology in a different package - maybe even the same package but a different salesman - wouldn't be as popular.
Pundits, fans, and teh haters all pay attention when Steve makes a new announcement of any new Apple product. That's the presence Steve brings to the game. He's like a tiny god. Love him or hate him, you can't deny he understands the market, and how to drive new products to get at that "I want it" mentality.
But unfortunately, Steve's success is a double-edged sword. He's the driving force behind Apple. He's also the driving force behind Apple. There was no succession planning here. His second in command isn't well known. He's not the face of Apple. I wonder who will follow him.
I wish Steve the best, and if he's able to return as CEO, I think that would be great. But if he doesn't ... look for Apple's stock to plummet. Even if the new guy has all kinds of bright ideas, I don't think he'll have the same presence as Steve, and won't be able to garner the same attention for the company. Apple has lots of new items in the pipeline, I'm sure, so the new guy's leadership won't truly be tested/visible for another 12 to 18 months. In that time, he needs to make his own mark, or Apple will quickly find itself on the sidelines trying to catch up to the rest of the market - rather than leading the market.
That's what has investors worried. And that is why you should care about this item.
Disclaimer: I am not an Apple fan, but I work in IT.
Need I say more?
When the pictures come from The National Enquirer, you really need to consider the source. Also, the doctor making this prognosis was doing so based on the pictures. Didn't we all jump on the idiot in Congress a few years ago for diagnosing that woman in Florida using a short video clip?
Let's take this to a conspiracy level and say people are putting out this news to get the stock price to drop a bit so they can snap it up and wait for the retraction of the article and the stock goes back up, they make a pretty penny.
Plant a tree in a developing country.
Poor Apple Stockholders. Steve Jobs is sick and all they worry about is pictures of their control-freak "sell the sizzle" CEO not looking well in the National Enquirer when he has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing that happens when you have a celebrity CEO.
Personally, I am surprised this hasn't happened until now. I guess they don't have Michael Jackson to write about anymore and have to branch out.
"Supposedly the National Enquirer is set to run pictures of Jobs with him looking frail and gaunt." Uhhh, TFA has pictures of him looking frail and gaunt. Look at the October 2010 pic on the TFA, he looks terrible. I wish him luck, though at this point I hope he realizes there are more important things to deal with than work and takes a long break.
The guy is skinny as hell. According to Wikipedia, people with extremely low BMI are healthier, and less adverse to death.
Seriously something is wrong with the message I am getting from all the experts in the media, if this guy is dieing. Take for example that movie about that skinny guy with the weird hair who happens to be a vampire can stop cars with his hand because he is skinny, looks good (supposedly) and is a vampire.
People with six pack abs, and their rib cages showing can do a myriad of things fat people can not do (like flips through the air).
I demand that we conduct a study to find out how it is possible that:
1) the guy is skinny,
2) the guy is still dieing.
The guys should not be in the hospital. He should be on a run way someplace.
Also why is it that the guy lives in the Unites States. According to all the European experts I consult on U-Tube, all the skinny people are in Europe, and there are in fact no skinny people in the USA.
Doctors of Medicinal Wizardry at Netcraft Sanitoriums have determined that Steve Jobs is dying. His slow lapse into death is due to a lack of Ego, which he has depleted to run Apple Enterprises. It was considered giving him a shot of Humility (which has has no natural reserve of) as an experimental treatment, but past review of his life has determined that this would be of no effect. Apple fanbois are quietly assembling at Cupertino to prepare for the inevitable deathwatch.
Don't forget that it was The National Enquirer who broke the story on the Edwards baby and affair. They've established some cred on investigative journalism over the last several years.
I'm not saying they're right here, I'm just saying it's foolish to discount them out of hand.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
They scooped a bowl of my nuts.
Not to mention he wasn't the genius behind Apple. Steve Wozniak was. In fact in numerous interviews about all Steve Jobs had a hand in in actually designing the original Apple computers was insisting that the power supply be a certain color for aesthetics. The real work was done by a man whom half the nation probably has no idea exists.
Woz is the genius behind the original Apple products from decades past, and Jobs is the genius behind the consumer electronics and publishing juggernaut that Apple is today.
Not really. The real geniuses are the engineers and the designers. The difference between the Apple II days and now is that decades ago the engineers and designers were far more visible or well known. The Apple II and Woz being at one extreme, however the original Mac had the designers/engineers names molded into the interior of the case. Jobs, then and now, stands on the shoulders of the engineers and designers.
Best wishes for Jobs. Hopefully he just has to slow down and relax.
We should all thank Steve for putting Pixar on the road to greatness, even though he didn't start it.
You mean more stuff that was private and had no business on the news?
Oh noes he likes to nail broads! This was a problem for him and his wife, not the public at large.
Because the National Enquirer, if you haven't noticed, is one of the most fact checked news outlets out there nowadays, especially with regards to things involving celeberties and popular people. They are up for a pulitzer prize for their John Edwards piece, and have made numerous other scoops. They scooped the Limbaugh painkillers story, the "Dog" / ni**er story, some alledge that they mistook Jackson's drug addiction for an illness, so they called his death too within a month... they busted Tiger's Extramarital affair two months in advance...
These guys are good. If they have a sourced story on Steve Jobs saying he's dying of cancer, I'd bet around $300 that Jobs does die of it within 6 to 10 weeks.
I wish I could find a source for where I read this, but the doctor looking at the pictures isn't even an oncologist, he's in sports medicine! There's the NE for you.
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The thing about those Enquirer photos is they're from 6 months ago.
Apple is one of the few tech companies that are NOT overpriced. Given their revenue and profits, the market value for Apple is just on par with any industrial company. Geeeez.
True but perception and fear can cause a bit of short term volatility.
Contrary to what the summary claims investors are not generally worried, AAPLE was down only 1.3% today. They realize that Steve has picked and trained a very strong management team, a team that proved itself during his previous absence.
Best wishes for Jobs. Hopefully he just has to slow down and relax.
I care more about the Lincoln log I just layed in the shitter than I do about Cancerman Jobs.
Come on, Slashdot. The guy's health issues are his own business. Let's give him his privacy.
So he may be dying. What do you do when you hear someone could be dying? Do you make it a spectacle? Do you point and laugh? Of course not. If it is the case, this is a moment for him and his family. It's none of our bussiness.
We will all find ourselves in this position some day and most of us can be thankful that the press and a sweaty bunch of nerds won't be so disrespectful.
Steve Jobs is the Elvis of the personal computer. Will people claim that Jobs lives after he dies?
But unlike Elvis, all these stock fears seem to suggest he is worth more alive than dead. Therefore, if Jobs' possible passing is being kept secret for financial reasons, then shame on anyone involved in the secrecy--it actually does not speak on the value of his life but that of Apple. Rather, if his possible passing is being kept secret for privacy reasons and respect for him and his family, I am as well as everyone else should be satisfied and content.
I have much more respect for Steve Jobs than I do with Apple. Notice how I make a distinction between the two. Not enough people do, unfortunately. And if we were purposely led to believe that there is no Apple without Steve Jobs, well shame on those people who pushed that idea.
And if Jobs was part of that idea, then perhaps the best thing he can do is say goodbye and resign before he passes, not the other way around.
I have no interest in using or developing for Apple products, but I hope Jobs recovers. This is all being played like a game of poker: the very notion that this is being kept secret is more or less a good sign, meant to keep others from folding their hands in the hope that they have a good hand (which can be likened to Steve returning).
"So don't get programmed by anybody but yourself" --Bill S. Preston, Esquire
Why would Jobs need a liver transplant, unless the cancer had metastasized there? And if the cancer is metastatic, then it spells certain doom. Merely replacing his liver isn't going to eliminate the cancer (and be curative), because the cancer has certainly spread elsewhere in his body, too.
Engineers are geniuses at engineering. Marketers are geniuses at marketing, a skill which, being social and aesthetic, engineers generally fail at.
Just because I don't box and don't like Mike Tyson doesn't mean Mike Tyson wasn't an amazing boxer.
I can only wonder what kind of product improvements may actually take place once Steve Jobs passes. Blu-Ray, mice that don't cramp your hands, iMacs that are not just silver... Once your overbearing father goes bye bye then a whole new world opens up.
You mean more stuff that was private and had no business on the news?
Oh noes he likes to nail broads! This was a problem for him and his wife, not the public at large.
While his wife is dying of cancer. I for one am glad we found out what a stand-up guy he was.
I'm pretty sure their entire success trails on the iPhone which isnt all that innovative but was just a small step ahead in a phone that can easily navigate, browse the internet, and play games; the rest was just a lack of viable choices at the time. They did not invent capacitive screens and the multitouch they put into it has a long history dating back to the 80's and had been in several science fiction shows since then, and it is the only viable and reasonable conclusion to how a tiny device can navigate easily.
The guys over at jalopnik aren't so sure, unless he's traded in his Mercedes SL55 AMG for a 10+ year old Honda Civic...
http://jalopnik.com/#!5763321/cmon-does-the-national-enquirer-really-think-steve-jobs-owns-a-honda
Maybe he's just a guy with cancer who doesn't want to spend his last days dying in the public eye while they discuss how to best profit from his passing?
You forfeit your privacy rights when you sign that "rich AND famous" contract.
And a part of your human rights goes down the drain when you turn yourself into a brand.
You don't get to be in the spotlight and not take in some heat from the lights.
Think about it. Would Woz, in a similar situation, be facing the same privacy problems as Jobs? How about Paul Allen?
That is why I keep my wishes simple. I just want to be rich. Someone else can be famous. E.g. the getaway driver.
He can have all the fame in the world as long as I'm free to keep and use the money. In fact...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
Why is it that the National Enquirer gets the third degree, and yet other media like NBC, CBS, New York Times, and so on get a free pass? What does it say about them that they look to the National Enquirer to lead? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Plenty of companies are in this position. Scientology and Christianity immediately come to mind.
Seriously? Jesus died and rose again and still lives. We went past that stage over 2k years ago.
brush up on the Bible bro (Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth)
You may need it.
The smart market knows he is the messiah
He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
If only Steve lived his life like Bill Gates...
Sad.
I don't personally care whether an elected official cheats on his wife. I agree that's mostly something between him and his wife. However, it does raise an interesting question regarding trust -- Can you still really trust him in his elected position? If he cheats on someone he is/was intimate with, who's to say he isn't also cheating on the public? (bribes, earmarks, corporate buyout, etc.)
....why would God create Humans on Earth so he could just recreate them in Heaven.....makes no sense. More likely His original purpose would have been having Humans living on Earth forever. No? Where would Adam and Eve be if they never sinned? Think about it.
Oh good, the crazy bus is here...
Except Mark Zuckerberg
He deserves to have every facet of his life known and subjected to Liking or DisLiking.
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Apple's #2 manager is Timothy Cook, Apple's chief operating officer. He's a cost control and outsourcing guy. He came from Compaq, where he turned them from a manufacturer into a distributor of products made offshore. That's what he did at Apple, too - closed all the Apple factories and outsourced manufacturing to FoxConn. He's good at managing low-cost outsourced manufacturing. He's running Apple now, and will probably succeed Jobs.
Apple will survive. Cook will hire some low-cost design firm in Beijing to do the next products. There's good design coming out of Beijing now. Check out PER design group's work. FoxConn in Shenzen already does the manufacturing. All Apple US has to do is manage the deals with other parties. Cupertino will probably be downsized to a marketing and IP rights organization.
Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. It is extremely rare to express any symptoms at all before the cancer metastatizes.
Surgery for pancreatic cancer is, in general, palliative.
Ask an oncologist what the general prognosis is for pancreatic cancer. Go ahead and mention that the patient is a billionaire if you like.
He's pretty much as sick as a person can get. I have no doubt he is aware of this and doesn't need to be told by a slashdot headline.
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I think someone just came off their medication...
Seems like an Apple a day doesn't keep the doctor away.
If it's a Democrat, it's supposed to be a matter of privacy even if they're breaking the law (Bill Clinton and perjury, John Edwards and violating FEC laws by using campaign money to fund his mistress and child, et al). If it's a Republican, it's everyone's business even if no laws were broken (Mark Sanford, Chris Lee, et al).
Oh, I know, the Rs are hypocrites since they say they believe in something and can't live up to it, so that's why they must be exposed. Ds are off the hook since they don't have a core belief to violate, even if they break the law in the process.
that guy's been around since the apple 2 so that makes him one old motherfucka, motherfucka. the dude is gonna die no matter what he "'has'".
Which party is trying to stick it's nose in my personal business? Which party is trying to dictate what I can do in the bedroom? Which party is trying to restrict access to birth control? Which party is trying to tell women what they can do with their own bodies? Hint, it sure as shit ain't the democrats.
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Steve Jobs is dying for your untrendy sins, but if he leaves this plane of existence, then the ruinous forces of M$ will finally overwhelm the reality distortion shield. This must not be allowed to happen, brothers. We must place the exalted Steve onto the Golden Throne where the asethetically designed life support systems will allow His Trendic emanations to continue to guide our Product Designers. Truly, the fate of untrendy heretics is to be cleansed by bolter fire.
I wish we lived in a world where Steve Jobs could be left alone and worry about getting better. As much as I hate Apple's arrogance and closed nature, I think we can all recognize the contributions that they have made to our modern world. If it weren't for Apple and Steve Jobs, I'd still be running around with some tiny-screen POS phone rather than the Nexus One. Whether you own Apple products or not, you have probably benefited from their innovations.
But, unfortunately, we don't live in a world where Steve Jobs can be left alone. We live in a world where many, many investors own a part of Apple, and they have a big stake in the success of the company too. Investors have the right to know what Apple knows about whether Steve Jobs will still be CEO in the immediate future. Steve Jobs is an instrumental part of the company, so it is imperative that the company be open and transparent about the status of their CEO and who will succeed him should he need to step down.
The personal details of Steve Jobs' health are none of the investor's business. But knowing whether they may need to find a CEO and who that might be is.
Here's hoping that the rumors are bogus and Steve is on his way to recovery.
It would have been better for him to get on the ticket as VP first though.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Someone must have cut off his oxygen supply.
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I just decided to go to Facebook to see how open Zuckerberg's personal facebook page is. The answer? I can't find his personal Facebook page. You can't "friend" him. He has a "public figure" page where someone posts news snippets and you can "like" it. Hypocrite.
they could just freeze him for 1000 years.
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He was using campaign funds donated by members of the public to (grossly over-)pay her for doing video services for the campaign, a job which many people believe she only got because either he wanted to keep her close so they could sleep together or as a bribe to keep her public. Misuse of campaign funds like that (or in general) *is* a public issue. A big one. Especially for someone running for president.
He's a fascist? Come on, do you know what a fascist does? Stop vomiting words you don't know what they mean.
Seriously, a "death" tag. Have a minimum of tact, /. !
Whatever he may be, he's just another guy, like me, like any other. He is 96% equal to any one -- ANY ONE.
Whatever he may have done, he never resort to the bad things some of his competitors routinely do. He sees beauty where others see void. There should be a prize for imagination. He didn't just innovate, he showed everybody how to innovate for those who couldn't care less about technology.
I hope God bless him and helps him thru these tribulations. No one is eternal, but if we lose him, it's not just another iPod next year we'll miss. There are still the things he hasn't done, there are still the things he hasn't rethought.
I want now an iPad, but one that runs Linux. But suddenly, my 1,3Kg/2,5lbs netbook is too clumsy and overweight. I bet he would come up with something new again -- so good I might be forced to buy from Apple -- even though Apple largely ignored my country for years.
Yet, with all these problems, when I compare my life to his, I cannot help to think he floored life's accelerator. He did lots of things we dreamed, but could never make happen.
I hope he gets healed -- for our benefit.
Screw you. If you don't like Facebook, don't use it. This is nothing more than antagonistic, hypocritical, petty vengeance befitting an angst-ridden prepubescent teenager.
Please pray for Steve Jobs.
That's messy. I always come on my medication.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Don't forget that it was The National Enquirer who broke the story on the Edwards baby and affair. They've established some cred on investigative journalism over the last several years.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Who knows how many kids died because he is a rich jerk and could afford a new pancreas. Further with the way he has made apple products suck balls with lock in and overpriced hardware, I personally hope he dies.
Live on Linus Gates or Bill Torvalds!
I can't find his personal Facebook page. You can't "friend" him. He has a "public figure" page where someone posts news snippets and you can "like" it. Hypocrite.
How is that hypocritical? It's not like he's forcing every single human to be on Facebook. Everyone has the right to not have a Facebook page, including him.
Now it might be bad advertising to not use your own product, but the truth is that people use Facebook because they want to, because they want to share all these details that you are so aghast at exposing. It's not hypocritical to provide a service people want while not using it yourself - it would be if he had spoken against something like Facebook, but plainly he has not.
My guess is that he's actually on Facebook under a pseudonym that just his closest friends know.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Obviously, you are correct if John Edwards weren't a candidate for public office. The concern in his case is that a secret like this could become a liability if an evil-doer were to find out about it and then attempt to blackmail him for political influence. Think David Letterman's situation, but at a VP or Presidential level.
In response to people mocking the National Esquire's credibility, I have to point out that they have only once been successfully sued for libel. Truth is always a defense against a libel suit. Also, they have been critical in unearthing many facts and details used in criminal cases
From Wikipedia:
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Because unlike with other CxOs Steve Jobs has purposely built a cult of personality around him that will seriously affect the stock.
That's bullshit. He's already left, the stock took a small dive but is higher than ever now. Most people at this point (except for Apple Haters) are pretty much assuming Jobs is not really coming back.
The fact is that Apple as entire markets that they drive, Jobs leaving will not affect the momentum of the company for many, many years to come - if ever. Rather that building "a cult of personality" Jobs built an approach to thinking about consumer electronics, and he's shared that with everyone at Apple - as much as anyone could share it.
You know who would have more impact leaving/being ill than Jobs right now? Ives. Because even with Jobs gone Ives will present a consistency of products such that at first glance you will not even realize Jobs was not involved.
Between momentum and a stable of people with considerable design and product skills, Apple will do just fine without Jobs.
The reason why Apple Haters are so insistent that Jobs will be back, is that they will have no-one to attribute success to without Jobs there, will have to actually admit Apple might have built a few products people like to use because they are well designed. To an Apple Hater this is the end times.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
if he is sick everyone should respect his privacy! who are you? does everyone know every facet of your life?
I'm not an Apple fan but I have a lot of respect for Steve's accomplishments and battles both business and healthwise. On the other hand, while some of his actions in the past have been controversial, his story(ies) of success should be something for us to emulate. Oh and here's the link I'm totally dropping just for kicks. http://bit.ly/AeriaNews
With his history, as its publicly reported, if he wasn't seeing an oncologist even if only to rule out cancer it would be surprising. This should be expected.
Of course, he could have been going to see a friend there or any one of a thousand things... cancer patients often get to meet each other at clinics and become friends.
I hope he gets well soon, in any case.
Oh, so that's why they passed on the rumor that John McCain was having an affair..no wait, they reported that one. Of course, it turned out to be untrue, unlike the John Edwards story.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Actually that's only partially true, his profile page is here, which is accessible by the ID 4. His public figure page is different. You can't friend him, just send messages (and "Report/block this person"). Every user can do the same under their privacy settings.
If Linus was seriously ill no-one would be worried about the future of the kernel but rather the future of Linus. Mac heads are selfish.
looking on the brite side, they have excellent palliative care in California
Boy isn't this the truth!!! Zuckerberg deserves more than that but I'll let it go for now. Just saying, he's NO Steve Jobs!
Calm down, cowboy. If true, Zuckerberg not using facebook is hypocritical. (I don't know if it's true - some people posted links to the contrary, I don't care enough to check it out.)
Your nasty little ad hominem attack was way out of proportion to the gp's post. What's really got you angry?
Don't take it personally, but I'm not going to read your pithy response to my post.
Actually the National Enquirer has broken a number of news stories more accurate than other media outlets... And yes, we have degraded that far down if not further down. The average American is now stupider than a 5th grader!
I wish I could "like" this comment.
respect his privacy? He's the CEO of a publicly traded company worth hundreds of Billions of dollars. The health of the CEO is material information that should be disclosed to investors, not hidden away. This is especially true for an organization that lives & breathes the the cult of personality.
If Steve Jobs wants his privacy to be respected then I suggest he resign his position from apple. Until then he is fair game.
...did you just accidentally bump into that irrelevant thesis? Or are you just trolling?
Cause you are very much confusing someone who consciously chose to be in the spotlight for their own ego-boosting and enjoyment - and someone who was been a victim of "sexual assault".
And now the person who liked the spotlight while it was warming their ego feels bad about "their make up being all smeared from the heat" and doesn't want that kind of publicity?
Sorry, but that is a COMPLETELY different category than someone who has (even *allegedly) been a victim of a CRIME.
And who's privacy is obviously being handled with a little more more logic and reason than what you tried to push there, even by such a crude and cruel judge as public opinion.
Also, my personal view on the subject has about as much influence of public opinion as my ass has influence on oceanic currents and tides.
*I said "allegedly" cause, on one hand all we have so far is a very short yet VERY unclear report on something that has been characterized as "brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating" by thugs yelling, "Jew! Jew!" [sic] (Logan is not Jewish.) while at the same time being "not a rape." - and on another we have a climate of calling a very wide range of actions a "sexual assault".
See: Julian Assange.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
That's not medication, and probably the only reason you have a subscription for them is that way your insurance will pay for them.
The Democrats don't believe in your pivacy any more than Republicans do..Republicans may care what you're doing in the bedroom, but Democrats care what light bulb you have in your bedroom fixtures while you do it. Which party's leader is calling for the execution of an American without a trial? Which party wants the government to maintain and control your medical records, not to mention having full disclosure of any medical procedure you've had done so they can pay the bill via socialized medicine, yet still pretends that abortion (some would argue murder) is founded in a right to privacy from that same government? I could go on with hundreds of examples, including simple positions as well as deeds actually done (Wilson and FDR with interrnment camps), but it wouldn't matter to you since you clearly have a partisan bent.
Get off your high horse... neither party cares about your freedom or privacy. Open your eyes and quit blindly cheerleading.
Has the media degraded so far that we are now counting the National Enquirer as a reliable news source?
Yes.
Actually, no; it's degraded farther.
I'm pretty sure unfriending him was the first thing I had to do when I first joined facebook.
And a "trashy" magazine dedicated mostly to hairstyles and movie stars was the one who brought the photos of murdered Emmett Till to light, greatly galvanizing the U.S. civil rights movement.
Tom Geller
Well, they did predict remaining life expectancies of cancer patients before -- for Patrick Swayze, they predicted he had "weeks" to live TWICE, iirc -- first they said it ~2 years before his death, and then again 6 months before his death. I agree that the NE is a reputable source for the things it actually specializes in, and so I do think the the sightings of Steve Jobs are authentic. But predicting the remaining lifespan based on some photographs is bullshit.
Hint: No.
That's the default treatment one should give any politician. Trustworthiness should be proved/earned.
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
It is all about stock pumping and dumping.
Nobody believes it is Steve Jobs apart from the same journalists who used to see aliens and flying saucerers all the time. Why would Steve drive a Honda Civic ? Why would he use a 2nd rate US clinic when he went through the treatment at a specialist clinic in Europe ?
I am long in APple shares, and thinks all this is stupid, but after options expires today, there is potential for new record highs.
What happens when Steve is gone ? Nobody knows. But the people in Apple should be able to come up with new products without Steve. Can they find a replacement ? Maybe not. Can they find a QA guy who can approve/reject designs as Steve did ? Maybe. But I doubt he will also be the CEO, but that is not important.
The white space with slashdot 3.0 is getting completely out of hand. The comment above is only 14 lines but take out my entire screen on a 1920x1200 screen, even with a small font. I can put 2 lines between each line of text. Taco: fix this !
Non-Linux Penguins ?
Engineers are geniuses at engineering. Marketers are geniuses at marketing, a skill which, being social and aesthetic, engineers generally fail at. Just because I don't box and don't like Mike Tyson doesn't mean Mike Tyson wasn't an amazing boxer.
Who said anything about not liking Jobs? The point remains, Jobs is no more the genius behind Apple products today than he was in the Apple II days. He stands on the shoulders of engineers and designers, he can't sell less-than-amazing product: Apple 3, various NeXT workstations, flower power iMac G3s, PowerMac G4 Cube (cool on the design side), etc. Nothing you said disproves this.
... Mark?
Seven Days with Ubuntu Unity
antagonistic, hypocritical, petty vengeance befitting an angst-ridden prepubescent teenager
Ahh, like the entire userbase of Facebook then. Got it.
We in the tech world are naturally upset by this disturbing news; more so perhaps the other leaders in the industry. In fact, Steve Ballmer could barely toss a highchair, he was so distraught.
"A government is a body of people usually -- notably -- ungoverned." -Shepherd Book
I read comments here about Steve Job's illness and what that has to do with Apple stock prices. Guy is fucking sick ok? Why everything boils down to money, not the respect for life. What a fucked up planet. The man was a good leader, he had followers as most leaders do. Now he's sick, and might die. And everyone rambles about how this will effect their stock. Listen stock market is a casino! And you're all in Vegas, too coked up to care and respect human life. That's the fucked up part. What a disaster, I don't even feel pity for you humans anymore, you deserve what's coming to your species.
The way Facebook is designed (and, for that matter, its popularity) means you can't. Or at least, probably shouldn't.
The main reason why is the photo sharing feature. On facebook or not, there's a good change that quite a few photos of you have been made public (yes, including that embarrassing one from last year when you had a bit too much to drink), tagged your name against it and it's there for all to see. There have been instances of people losing their jobs because of photos on facebook - well, you could (at least in theory) lose your job because of a photo of you someone else put up even though you've never used the damn site.
About the only thing you can do to try and prevent this is to sign up, make sure any photos of you are tagged and associated with your login then either remove those tags yourself or set your privacy settings so photos including you aren't public. Until the next time Facebook change their privacy defaults - which they'll do all they like because the users aren't the customers.
It's the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bridge over the main road into town saying "kiwimate is a tosser!" except it comes with photographic evidence and it's much more likely to get distributed to anyone around the world than a bridge is.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. If you seek to generate income by invading the privacy of others then expect yours to be invaded for free.
Privacy is a two way street and when it comes to minors, of course it should be compulsory.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
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Even if he didn't want it, this automatic elevation of His Steveness to Godhood is what has turned reading or hearing his name into the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. And over the last few years, having this opinion has become akin to swimming into a tsunami.
Tiny as compared to the size of my dick, that is.
When you open up all the abbreviated comments above it it gets fixed. But only until you roll-em-up again.
Commenting this way feels like I'm using post-2007 MS Office with that stupid, paper wasting, default line-spacing and additional space after paragraph. Very annoying.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
I can strike him off my Christmas card list now.
At first I though I was readying Slashdot. Then I saw the headline about Steve Jobs....
They may end up as larger than life figures, but celebrities are people too.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
If MacOS X was so good, why is it almost last place in terms of how much it is used then goof? Perhaps it's because 2nd class citizens who troll others with ad hominem attacks and threaten to attack their systems like you have this week here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1999478&cid=35240678 use it?? You seem to make threats of attacking others' systems here, but when you were asked to show others IP address you threatened to attack it was rather amusing watching you go silent. Most especially after your off topic trolling and ad hominem attacks showed your inability to explain Linux outright failure at the London Stock Exchange on its 2nd day in production.
I'm not an Apple fan. And I know a bit about Mr Jobs. And I know the good and certainly the bad in terms of Apple. But looking in as someone who has a small number of Apple devices, the technology is always interesting and neat as is all things that are newish in tech terms.
Mr Jobs used to present a true sales pitch each year, and even when I was not going to buy it, it was certainly fun to watch. As to the rest, I hope you get well soon Steve. None of which is anything to do with Apple, or its good or bad Aspects.
We`re all equal
And Nostradamus made numerous correct predictions, and an octopus predicted the entire World Cup outcome, and if a room of a thousand people flip coins five times, several of them will come up heads five or more times in a row.
National Enquirer prints (and sometimes manufactures) gossip, which is sometimes correct. "Dismissing them out of hand" is actually roughly equivalent to "assume they're printing themselves some money for nothing but self-involved reasons and go look for this information from a reputable news source who would actually feel bad about doctoring photographs to show something that might not be true."
The history of the Walt Disney company following Walt's death in 1966 appears to be a strong analog for this situation. The company was driven by the vision of one man leading a team of highly talented individuals. When Walt died, the company went into a kind of auto-pilot paralysis, with everyone asking themselves 'what would Walt do?'. This was all well and good, except for the single critical fact that Walt was considered a genius because nobody could predict what he would do next, or how he would accomplish it. The focus on quality stayed, but the unpredictable spark of creativity wasn't something that you could capture by trying to put yourself into someone else's head. The company went into a stagnating decline that would last nearly two decades.
TL;DR - You can't innovate by trying to guess what a creative genius would have done, you have to find a new one.
I'm sure Jobs' leaving won't affect apple in any way whatsoever. They will make the same types of products in the same type of way. Jobs was the company leader, no designer.
Fascism is a political ideology but Apple is not a political entity. Apple cannot be totalitarian since their policies do not carry the force of law and are not enforced by police powers. They just make and sell products, which private citizens choose to buy or not buy.
The metaphor of company:nation is a common one but don't forget that it is a metaphor only. In academia the policies and decisions of a company like Apple would be studied in business class, not poli sci, and certainly not philosophy.
Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I have been deeply involved with cryonics since 1985. Helped on 19 of the hundred Alcor has stored.
In fact the last one I helped with was a pancreatic cancer victim.
If there are people reading this to are in contact with Steve Jobs, I wish they would check with him, just to be sure he has considered (and probably rejected) this option.
It's inexpensive relative to person with Steve's resources.
Keith Henson
End MGM. Get prospective parents of boys to Google: Men do complain
Americano is a Mac Fag is why. Mac Fag, why are you trying to play computer expert? Americano, you Mac Fag (lol): We know you don't even have a computer science degree even!
Gosh, why won't you wouldn't tell us why it is that MacOS X is in dead last place along with other NIX variants in the PC/Server world? Because Mac Fags like you use it??
That's what you get for wasting your time online at slashdot Mac Fag. Without that degree in CSC nobody takes you seriously and knows you're nothing more than a trolling Mac Fag.
not to start watching any serials, which is never a good sign.
I mean seriously. He may be one of the most famous people in the world,
but even he deserves the privacy in his (may I say final?) weeks.
I bet you saw the exit letter he sent to all of Apple, alone for that he deserves some serious respect.
Please have the dignity to pay him that in this critical time for him.
Hahaha, Americano the mac fag is losing his temper. Now, watch him really "blow" when he won't be able to put up a name of a college or University he actually has gotten a degree from or his real name. Go for it mac fag ne'er-do-well. What college or U did you get a degree from? How are you going to prove you have one?? Hmmm??? Kind of tough to do, because I have never seen a degree with "AMERICANO" on it, lol, as the recipient! I am not APK whoever that is by the way. I am just enjoying watching you squirm.
Since when did we start believing what was printed in The National Enquirer?
Come on people.
Let's hold on until a more reputable source releases an update on Mr Jobs condition.
If you weren't trolling there... well... don't know how to break it to you... then you are pretty darn clueless.
My point, both people deserve privacy even if they are "celebrities".
Except one of those people gave away their privacy willingly, readily, repeatedly and continuously in exchange for "fame and fortune" - and we should for some reason be sad cause it is coming to haunt them now.
And the other one was a victim of an assault... who has her privacy pretty much intact and locked up tight.
So protected in fact, that it's left to public imagination to come up how "brutal and sustained" and "sexual" it was.
Ranging from groping to a "gang rape by up to 20 muslim egyptians".
P.S. Don't know about you, but I find it absolutely hilarious how Rosen was forced to resign his fellowship at New York University - for committing a thoughtcrime.
Truly a land of the free...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
See subject Mac Fag. You talk a lot but you are busted as being nothing but a big talking liar. You do not have a collegiate degree to your name, much less one in computer science.
"I do, in fact, have a college degree" - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:22PM (#35247032)
Prove it. Show us a degree in Computer Science especially to your name. Show us you took logic too. I could say I was Barack Obama too, you know.
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"I have no need to prove myself to you, you troll." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday February 17, @09:24PM (#35240248)
LOL, as I suspected & knew to be true: You don't have a collegiate degree.
So please - backup your big talk, & do tell us what school, then, and your name that's on this degree (the one you don't have), ok?
(Watch Mac Fag Americano "dance" folks!)
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"If I were attacking you, you'd know it" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday February 17, @09:24PM (#35240248)
Then, what's my IP address, Mac Fag? LOL... You, for all your big talk quoted above, just can't seem to produce that even to back up your words.
(and yet that "big talk" quoted above was from YOU?? LMAO!)
APK
P.S.=> This is utterly hilarious and highly amusing. The troll Americano can not only not take being re-trolled, but he can't backup his own words quoted above. Americano - You proven 1 thing: You're a BIG TALKING "Mac Fag"... lol, but that's about it... apk
Because you cannot prove you do.
"I do, in fact, have a college degree" - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:22PM (#35247032)
Prove it. Show us a degree in Computer Science especially to your name. Show us you took logic too. I could say I was Barack Obama too, you know.
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"I have no need to prove myself to you, you troll." - by Americano (920576) on Thursday February 17, @09:24PM (#35240248)
LOL, as I suspected & knew to be true: You don't have a collegiate degree.
So please - backup your big talk, & do tell us what school, then, and your name that's on this degree (the one you don't have), ok?
(Watch Mac Fag Americano "dance" folks!)
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"If I were attacking you, you'd know it" - by Americano (920576) on Thursday February 17, @09:24PM (#35240248)
Then, what's my IP address, Mac Fag? LOL... You, for all your big talk quoted above, just can't seem to produce that even to back up your words.
(and yet that "big talk" quoted above was from YOU?? LMAO!)
APK
P.S.=> This is utterly hilarious and highly amusing. The troll Americano can not only not take being re-trolled, but he can't backup his own words quoted above. Americano - You proven 1 thing: You're a BIG TALKING "Mac Fag"... lol, but that's about it... apk
...I though he WAS cancer. How can cancer have cancer?
"Me:
1) Degree in Biotechnology and Computer Science. (Did your troll factory offer dual majors, or just the standard "how to be an obnoxious twat on the internet" syllabus?)" - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
First of all, Kevin B. Pease = AMERICANO from Merrimack New Hampshire - kbpease@hotmail.com - YOU DID NOT GET A DOUBLE MAJOR!
AMERICANO = Kevin B. Pease has a MINOR only in CSC, for starters:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kbpease
PERTINENT EXCERPT:
Kevin Pease's Education
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
B.S., Biotechnology
1993 Ã" 1998
Minor: Computer Science
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LMAO - it took you 6 YEARS to get a CSC MINOR? Rotflmao...
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(Want more people? Ok!)
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Kevin B. Pease steals the code of others from books:
http://www.justskins.com/forums/looking-for-inspiration-cascading-16594.html [justskins.com]
PERTINENT QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Hi Garry, I think I have a script that will do exactly what you want, based on and I hope, improved...) a program in Lincoln Stein's "CGI.pm" book. The most notable change from his version is that I wrote in"
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Kevin B. Pease has others do his work for him:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iH45r7p9xV8J:www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/modperl/modperl/89045+kbpease&cd=21&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
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Kevin B. Pease steals the code of others from books:
http://www.justskins.com/forums/looking-for-inspiration-cascading-16594.html
PERTINENT QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Hi Garry, I think I have a script that will do exactly what you want, based on and I hope, improved...) a program in Lincoln Stein's "CGI.pm" book. The most notable change from his version is that I wrote in"
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(That "takes the cake" - Not only did you LIE about "dual majors", but, lol, it TOOK YOU 6 YEARS TO GET A MINOR IN CSC as well... you're a JOKE! )
APK
P.S.=>
"I'd say I'm pretty much the winner in that comparison, friend." - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
Americano, not only do I have an MIS minor but I also have an AAS in CSC (long done, now 94/120 credits into the FULL 4 yr. Bachelors' too) & these to my credit (& you can't even SCRATCH this list yourself):
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b>Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 i
"1) Degree in Biotechnology and Computer Science. (Did your troll factory offer dual majors, or just the standard "how to be an obnoxious twat on the internet" syllabus?)" - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
From http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2001036&cid=35247076
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Oh, really? Ok, time for the truth instead of your LIES:
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Kevin B. Pease is a disgusting FATBOY that needs to lose weight BADLY:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/26720893.jpg
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You don't have a DUAL MAJOR, you have a minor... & all it seems you do is copy the work of others, ask others to do work FOR YOU, and you do the easiest shit there is: Web Page coding (easy as HELL in ASP.NET too).
APK
P.S.=>
"I'd say I'm pretty much the winner in that comparison, friend." - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
LMAO - I KNOW BETTER, refer to the above... you've been caught LYING saying you had "dual majors" for one thing, & you steal others' code and ALL YOU DO IS WEBCHUMP CRAP! I don't even consider that coding... lol, it's TOO easy! Especially in Visual Studio ASP.NET!
Refer to the above, & I actually have an B.S. Business Administration + MIS concentration/minor alongside CSC A.A.S. (long done, & I am going PAST that now) & already 94/120 credit hours into the FULL B.S. CSC here... alongside 17++ yrs. of industry experience hands on (ranging from Programmer/Programmer-Analyst, Software Engineer, alongside Network Administrator titles as well)... many times for Fortune 100-500 companies too, unlike yourself...
Along with these to my credit also, which YOU do NOT have:
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b>Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too
"Me:
1) Degree in Biotechnology and Computer Science. (Did your troll factory offer dual majors, or just the standard "how to be an obnoxious twat on the internet" syllabus?)" - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
First of all, Kevin B. Pease = AMERICANO from Merrimack New Hampshire - kbpease@hotmail.com - YOU DID NOT GET A DOUBLE MAJOR!
AMERICANO = Kevin B. Pease has a MINOR only in CSC, for starters:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kbpease
PERTINENT EXCERPT:
Kevin Pease's Education
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
B.S., Biotechnology
1993 Ã" 1998
Minor: Computer Science
---
LMAO - it took you 6 YEARS to get a CSC MINOR? Rotflmao...
---
(Want more people? Ok!)
---
Kevin B. Pease steals the code of others from books:
http://www.justskins.com/forums/looking-for-inspiration-cascading-16594.html [justskins.com]
PERTINENT QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Hi Garry, I think I have a script that will do exactly what you want, based on and I hope, improved...) a program in Lincoln Stein's "CGI.pm" book. The most notable change from his version is that I wrote in"
---
Kevin B. Pease has others do his work for him:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iH45r7p9xV8J:www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/modperl/modperl/89045+kbpease&cd=21&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
---
Kevin B. Pease steals the code of others from books:
http://www.justskins.com/forums/looking-for-inspiration-cascading-16594.html
PERTINENT QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Hi Garry, I think I have a script that will do exactly what you want, based on and I hope, improved...) a program in Lincoln Stein's "CGI.pm" book. The most notable change from his version is that I wrote in"
---
(That "takes the cake" - Not only did you LIE about "dual majors", but, lol, it TOOK YOU 6 YEARS TO GET A MINOR IN CSC as well... you're a JOKE! )
APK
P.S.=>
"I'd say I'm pretty much the winner in that comparison, friend." - by Americano (920576) on Friday February 18, @02:27PM (#35247076)
Americano, not only do I have an MIS minor but I also have an AAS in CSC (long done, now 94/120 credits into the FULL 4 yr. Bachelors' too) & these to my credit (& you can't even SCRATCH this list yourself):
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b>Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 i
He's not gonna get better very soon if he's going to c cancer treatment center for his AIDS.
Privacy is a two way street and when it comes to minors, of course it should be compulsory.
And in any other conversation you'd have the majority of /. bleating on about how "I'd let my kids do/see/read/post anything they wanted, they deserve freedom, I trust them, etc., etc.".