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Steve Jobs Health Worries Escalate
PolygamousRanchKid writes with this sad snippet from the San Francisco Chronicle: "We all know that Steve Jobs is sick. What's not known is how sick he is, and that's worrying investors of Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) this morning, as well as everyone else. Jobs did have pancreatic cancer a few years ago, but he had a transplant and was able to come back to work. Last time, he gave some kind of time frame for returning to work. This time, he did not. Supposedly the National Enquirer is set to run pictures of Jobs with him looking frail and gaunt. Jobs was spotted leaving the Stanford Cancer Center in Palo Alto, California, according to RadarOnline.com."
who cares? let the man live his own life
Abdominal cancers are not fun. Pancreatic cancers are almost always fatal. I'm sure his wealth has probably bought him time... but you can't cheat death.
Leave him alone!
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and the reasons are multiple... - I don't own stock in Apple, its over priced anyway for a consumer electronics company. - Steve Jobs wouldn't give a crap if I was dying, nor would I get press for my health issues. - The market knows he is not the messiah, and Apple as a mega corp will continue on with the wisdom of many other vested parties. - Health issues should be private, kept private and not trivialized by news media. - Respect the privacy of others, too many people in the media don't. and the list goes on and one. Just make it a non story by wishing him the best and in the afterlife and if he is reborn he is more than a toad or troll for his massive good deeds to the people he has destroyed and belittled.
Long story short, Satan has come to collect his part of the agreement.
Posted anon, cause apple fanbois gave up their sense of humor in exchange for shiny things.
Any company that requires a specific individual to inspire confidence is, by default, in trouble. Few companies are in the position that Apple is in. How many CEO's could you name? Apple needs to get beyond the cult of leadership that currently surrounds them. I am sure that we still see similar product advances whether he is there as the pitchman or not.
I won't accept that I'm not immortal until after I die.
In the meantime. It's fun being immortal!
Man, i may dump my savings into apple stock once it bottoms out after his death. There's going to be a massive unloading, we all know it.
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4d5c75d8cadcbbc41b160000/steve-jobs-sick.jpg
There's also a sensationalist headline over here:
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/02/17/steve-jobs-may-have-just-six-weeks-to-live-receiving-treatment/
The Daily Mail spoke to Dr Jerome Spunberg, a certified Oncologist, who said: âoeMr Jobs is most likely getting outpatient chemotherapy at Stanford because the cancer has recurred.â
Another consultant, Dr. Gabe Mirkin, a physician with over fourty years experience, said: âoeHe is terminal. What you are seeing is extreme muscle wasting from calorie depravation, most likely caused by cancer. He has no muscle left in his buttocks, which is the last place to go. He definitely appears to be in the terminal stages of his life from these photos. I would be surprised if he weighed more than 130lb.â
The National Enquirer, who initially reported the news today (to be published tomorrow), talked to critical-care physician Dr. Samuel Jacobson, who said, âoeJudging from the photos, he is close to terminal. I would say he has six weeks.â That said, given the reliability of The National Enquirer, waiting for further news before jumping to conclusions is advised.
Weâ(TM)ve done a little digging into Dr. Samuel Jacobson. Jacobson appears to be a Florida based pulmonologist (breathing doctor) â" not Oncologist. Which would naturally make you wonder just how qualified he is to diagnose someone via a photo, especially outside of his speciality.
The National Enquirer talks about running photos of Steve, and the entire news media gets a hard on and starts running stories on this. Has the media degraded so far that we are now counting the National Enquirer as a reliable news source?
The only people who are escalating the health worries here are the media itself to push for circulation. It's not news, it's bullshit. Thanks for contributing to the bullshit, Timothy.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
They scooped the John Edwards story.
Man, i may dump my savings into apple stock once it bottoms out after his death. There's going to be a massive unloading, we all know it.
Good point, some investors will dump stock the moment he dies. Buy then, and sell in the next year or two, when his actual influence filters out of the company and apple reverts to being just another mega-corp.
If you were really the gambling sort of vulture, you might even short some stock now and hope he is unhealthy as he looks.
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This item has only been up a few minutes, and already a lot of people are asking why this matters, why they should care. Here's why:
If you use a Mac, you should care about this.
Steve Jobs is unquestionably the driving force behind Apple. His return to Apple as the iCEO, followed by the introduction of new streamlined iMacs, the iPod, ... all demonstrated that Steve had returned to make Apple's mark on the industry. How many of the general population - not to mention us IT geeks - have an iPod? I look around my office and see high level executives using iPads. Steve made these a success. The same technology in a different package - maybe even the same package but a different salesman - wouldn't be as popular.
Pundits, fans, and teh haters all pay attention when Steve makes a new announcement of any new Apple product. That's the presence Steve brings to the game. He's like a tiny god. Love him or hate him, you can't deny he understands the market, and how to drive new products to get at that "I want it" mentality.
But unfortunately, Steve's success is a double-edged sword. He's the driving force behind Apple. He's also the driving force behind Apple. There was no succession planning here. His second in command isn't well known. He's not the face of Apple. I wonder who will follow him.
I wish Steve the best, and if he's able to return as CEO, I think that would be great. But if he doesn't ... look for Apple's stock to plummet. Even if the new guy has all kinds of bright ideas, I don't think he'll have the same presence as Steve, and won't be able to garner the same attention for the company. Apple has lots of new items in the pipeline, I'm sure, so the new guy's leadership won't truly be tested/visible for another 12 to 18 months. In that time, he needs to make his own mark, or Apple will quickly find itself on the sidelines trying to catch up to the rest of the market - rather than leading the market.
That's what has investors worried. And that is why you should care about this item.
Disclaimer: I am not an Apple fan, but I work in IT.
Need I say more?
When the pictures come from The National Enquirer, you really need to consider the source. Also, the doctor making this prognosis was doing so based on the pictures. Didn't we all jump on the idiot in Congress a few years ago for diagnosing that woman in Florida using a short video clip?
Let's take this to a conspiracy level and say people are putting out this news to get the stock price to drop a bit so they can snap it up and wait for the retraction of the article and the stock goes back up, they make a pretty penny.
Plant a tree in a developing country.
Poor Apple Stockholders. Steve Jobs is sick and all they worry about is pictures of their control-freak "sell the sizzle" CEO not looking well in the National Enquirer when he has pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing that happens when you have a celebrity CEO.
Personally, I am surprised this hasn't happened until now. I guess they don't have Michael Jackson to write about anymore and have to branch out.
"Supposedly the National Enquirer is set to run pictures of Jobs with him looking frail and gaunt." Uhhh, TFA has pictures of him looking frail and gaunt. Look at the October 2010 pic on the TFA, he looks terrible. I wish him luck, though at this point I hope he realizes there are more important things to deal with than work and takes a long break.
Doctors of Medicinal Wizardry at Netcraft Sanitoriums have determined that Steve Jobs is dying. His slow lapse into death is due to a lack of Ego, which he has depleted to run Apple Enterprises. It was considered giving him a shot of Humility (which has has no natural reserve of) as an experimental treatment, but past review of his life has determined that this would be of no effect. Apple fanbois are quietly assembling at Cupertino to prepare for the inevitable deathwatch.
Don't forget that it was The National Enquirer who broke the story on the Edwards baby and affair. They've established some cred on investigative journalism over the last several years.
I'm not saying they're right here, I'm just saying it's foolish to discount them out of hand.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
There's a difference between being trendy, and creating the trend.
And it's not even a little bit subtle.
Not to mention he wasn't the genius behind Apple. Steve Wozniak was. In fact in numerous interviews about all Steve Jobs had a hand in in actually designing the original Apple computers was insisting that the power supply be a certain color for aesthetics. The real work was done by a man whom half the nation probably has no idea exists.
Woz is the genius behind the original Apple products from decades past, and Jobs is the genius behind the consumer electronics and publishing juggernaut that Apple is today.
Not really. The real geniuses are the engineers and the designers. The difference between the Apple II days and now is that decades ago the engineers and designers were far more visible or well known. The Apple II and Woz being at one extreme, however the original Mac had the designers/engineers names molded into the interior of the case. Jobs, then and now, stands on the shoulders of the engineers and designers.
Best wishes for Jobs. Hopefully he just has to slow down and relax.
You mean more stuff that was private and had no business on the news?
Oh noes he likes to nail broads! This was a problem for him and his wife, not the public at large.
Because the National Enquirer, if you haven't noticed, is one of the most fact checked news outlets out there nowadays, especially with regards to things involving celeberties and popular people. They are up for a pulitzer prize for their John Edwards piece, and have made numerous other scoops. They scooped the Limbaugh painkillers story, the "Dog" / ni**er story, some alledge that they mistook Jackson's drug addiction for an illness, so they called his death too within a month... they busted Tiger's Extramarital affair two months in advance...
These guys are good. If they have a sourced story on Steve Jobs saying he's dying of cancer, I'd bet around $300 that Jobs does die of it within 6 to 10 weeks.
I wish I could find a source for where I read this, but the doctor looking at the pictures isn't even an oncologist, he's in sports medicine! There's the NE for you.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
The thing about those Enquirer photos is they're from 6 months ago.
Apple is one of the few tech companies that are NOT overpriced. Given their revenue and profits, the market value for Apple is just on par with any industrial company. Geeeez.
True but perception and fear can cause a bit of short term volatility.
Contrary to what the summary claims investors are not generally worried, AAPLE was down only 1.3% today. They realize that Steve has picked and trained a very strong management team, a team that proved itself during his previous absence.
Best wishes for Jobs. Hopefully he just has to slow down and relax.
Steve Jobs is the Elvis of the personal computer. Will people claim that Jobs lives after he dies?
But unlike Elvis, all these stock fears seem to suggest he is worth more alive than dead. Therefore, if Jobs' possible passing is being kept secret for financial reasons, then shame on anyone involved in the secrecy--it actually does not speak on the value of his life but that of Apple. Rather, if his possible passing is being kept secret for privacy reasons and respect for him and his family, I am as well as everyone else should be satisfied and content.
I have much more respect for Steve Jobs than I do with Apple. Notice how I make a distinction between the two. Not enough people do, unfortunately. And if we were purposely led to believe that there is no Apple without Steve Jobs, well shame on those people who pushed that idea.
And if Jobs was part of that idea, then perhaps the best thing he can do is say goodbye and resign before he passes, not the other way around.
I have no interest in using or developing for Apple products, but I hope Jobs recovers. This is all being played like a game of poker: the very notion that this is being kept secret is more or less a good sign, meant to keep others from folding their hands in the hope that they have a good hand (which can be likened to Steve returning).
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Why would Jobs need a liver transplant, unless the cancer had metastasized there? And if the cancer is metastatic, then it spells certain doom. Merely replacing his liver isn't going to eliminate the cancer (and be curative), because the cancer has certainly spread elsewhere in his body, too.
Engineers are geniuses at engineering. Marketers are geniuses at marketing, a skill which, being social and aesthetic, engineers generally fail at.
Just because I don't box and don't like Mike Tyson doesn't mean Mike Tyson wasn't an amazing boxer.
I am still bothered by the way he pretended to invent multitasking instead of just admitting that he was catching up to Android,
Where did he ever say that? When he introduced multitasking for the iPhone he said that Apple was "late to the party".
Seriously I really think Apple-haters like to make things like this up or seem unable to separate marketing-speeak from reality.
I can only wonder what kind of product improvements may actually take place once Steve Jobs passes. Blu-Ray, mice that don't cramp your hands, iMacs that are not just silver... Once your overbearing father goes bye bye then a whole new world opens up.
Android has had proxy support since the first release. You set it under the access point.
Now, what's pretty important in a business phone is that your VPN doesn't randomly reset to an unencrypted connection, which, sadly, it does on iPhone.
The guys over at jalopnik aren't so sure, unless he's traded in his Mercedes SL55 AMG for a 10+ year old Honda Civic...
http://jalopnik.com/#!5763321/cmon-does-the-national-enquirer-really-think-steve-jobs-owns-a-honda
Maybe he's just a guy with cancer who doesn't want to spend his last days dying in the public eye while they discuss how to best profit from his passing?
You forfeit your privacy rights when you sign that "rich AND famous" contract.
And a part of your human rights goes down the drain when you turn yourself into a brand.
You don't get to be in the spotlight and not take in some heat from the lights.
Think about it. Would Woz, in a similar situation, be facing the same privacy problems as Jobs? How about Paul Allen?
That is why I keep my wishes simple. I just want to be rich. Someone else can be famous. E.g. the getaway driver.
He can have all the fame in the world as long as I'm free to keep and use the money. In fact...
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Why is it that the National Enquirer gets the third degree, and yet other media like NBC, CBS, New York Times, and so on get a free pass? What does it say about them that they look to the National Enquirer to lead? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
The smart market knows he is the messiah
He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!
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He never "pretended to invent multitasking." Holy shit is there a flood of anonymous anti-Apple trolls in this article, even more than usual.
If only Steve lived his life like Bill Gates...
Sad.
He was referring to the way that, instead of fully running in the background, apps submit specialized blocks of background code (using the blocks extension Apple added to C) to be run by the OS. Apps can continue to do specialized tasks in the background, such as playing music, without fully running in the background and slowing down the phone.
Nobody was pretending anything was "new"--that's your own invention. No wonder you post anonymously.
Oh good, the crazy bus is here...
Except Mark Zuckerberg
He deserves to have every facet of his life known and subjected to Liking or DisLiking.
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Apple's #2 manager is Timothy Cook, Apple's chief operating officer. He's a cost control and outsourcing guy. He came from Compaq, where he turned them from a manufacturer into a distributor of products made offshore. That's what he did at Apple, too - closed all the Apple factories and outsourced manufacturing to FoxConn. He's good at managing low-cost outsourced manufacturing. He's running Apple now, and will probably succeed Jobs.
Apple will survive. Cook will hire some low-cost design firm in Beijing to do the next products. There's good design coming out of Beijing now. Check out PER design group's work. FoxConn in Shenzen already does the manufacturing. All Apple US has to do is manage the deals with other parties. Cupertino will probably be downsized to a marketing and IP rights organization.
Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. It is extremely rare to express any symptoms at all before the cancer metastatizes.
Surgery for pancreatic cancer is, in general, palliative.
Ask an oncologist what the general prognosis is for pancreatic cancer. Go ahead and mention that the patient is a billionaire if you like.
He's pretty much as sick as a person can get. I have no doubt he is aware of this and doesn't need to be told by a slashdot headline.
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I think someone just came off their medication...
Seems like an Apple a day doesn't keep the doctor away.
True. However, when Jobs goes, whether that be in two weeks or two decades, he will rise again in three days, so let's not be worried.
If it's a Democrat, it's supposed to be a matter of privacy even if they're breaking the law (Bill Clinton and perjury, John Edwards and violating FEC laws by using campaign money to fund his mistress and child, et al). If it's a Republican, it's everyone's business even if no laws were broken (Mark Sanford, Chris Lee, et al).
Oh, I know, the Rs are hypocrites since they say they believe in something and can't live up to it, so that's why they must be exposed. Ds are off the hook since they don't have a core belief to violate, even if they break the law in the process.
Which party is trying to stick it's nose in my personal business? Which party is trying to dictate what I can do in the bedroom? Which party is trying to restrict access to birth control? Which party is trying to tell women what they can do with their own bodies? Hint, it sure as shit ain't the democrats.
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I wish we lived in a world where Steve Jobs could be left alone and worry about getting better. As much as I hate Apple's arrogance and closed nature, I think we can all recognize the contributions that they have made to our modern world. If it weren't for Apple and Steve Jobs, I'd still be running around with some tiny-screen POS phone rather than the Nexus One. Whether you own Apple products or not, you have probably benefited from their innovations.
But, unfortunately, we don't live in a world where Steve Jobs can be left alone. We live in a world where many, many investors own a part of Apple, and they have a big stake in the success of the company too. Investors have the right to know what Apple knows about whether Steve Jobs will still be CEO in the immediate future. Steve Jobs is an instrumental part of the company, so it is imperative that the company be open and transparent about the status of their CEO and who will succeed him should he need to step down.
The personal details of Steve Jobs' health are none of the investor's business. But knowing whether they may need to find a CEO and who that might be is.
Here's hoping that the rumors are bogus and Steve is on his way to recovery.
It would have been better for him to get on the ticket as VP first though.
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Someone must have cut off his oxygen supply.
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I just decided to go to Facebook to see how open Zuckerberg's personal facebook page is. The answer? I can't find his personal Facebook page. You can't "friend" him. He has a "public figure" page where someone posts news snippets and you can "like" it. Hypocrite.
they could just freeze him for 1000 years.
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Screw you. If you don't like Facebook, don't use it. This is nothing more than antagonistic, hypocritical, petty vengeance befitting an angst-ridden prepubescent teenager.
That's messy. I always come on my medication.
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
I can't find his personal Facebook page. You can't "friend" him. He has a "public figure" page where someone posts news snippets and you can "like" it. Hypocrite.
How is that hypocritical? It's not like he's forcing every single human to be on Facebook. Everyone has the right to not have a Facebook page, including him.
Now it might be bad advertising to not use your own product, but the truth is that people use Facebook because they want to, because they want to share all these details that you are so aghast at exposing. It's not hypocritical to provide a service people want while not using it yourself - it would be if he had spoken against something like Facebook, but plainly he has not.
My guess is that he's actually on Facebook under a pseudonym that just his closest friends know.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Because unlike with other CxOs Steve Jobs has purposely built a cult of personality around him that will seriously affect the stock.
That's bullshit. He's already left, the stock took a small dive but is higher than ever now. Most people at this point (except for Apple Haters) are pretty much assuming Jobs is not really coming back.
The fact is that Apple as entire markets that they drive, Jobs leaving will not affect the momentum of the company for many, many years to come - if ever. Rather that building "a cult of personality" Jobs built an approach to thinking about consumer electronics, and he's shared that with everyone at Apple - as much as anyone could share it.
You know who would have more impact leaving/being ill than Jobs right now? Ives. Because even with Jobs gone Ives will present a consistency of products such that at first glance you will not even realize Jobs was not involved.
Between momentum and a stable of people with considerable design and product skills, Apple will do just fine without Jobs.
The reason why Apple Haters are so insistent that Jobs will be back, is that they will have no-one to attribute success to without Jobs there, will have to actually admit Apple might have built a few products people like to use because they are well designed. To an Apple Hater this is the end times.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I'm not an Apple fan but I have a lot of respect for Steve's accomplishments and battles both business and healthwise. On the other hand, while some of his actions in the past have been controversial, his story(ies) of success should be something for us to emulate. Oh and here's the link I'm totally dropping just for kicks. http://bit.ly/AeriaNews
With his history, as its publicly reported, if he wasn't seeing an oncologist even if only to rule out cancer it would be surprising. This should be expected.
Of course, he could have been going to see a friend there or any one of a thousand things... cancer patients often get to meet each other at clinics and become friends.
I hope he gets well soon, in any case.
Oh, so that's why they passed on the rumor that John McCain was having an affair..no wait, they reported that one. Of course, it turned out to be untrue, unlike the John Edwards story.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Actually that's only partially true, his profile page is here, which is accessible by the ID 4. His public figure page is different. You can't friend him, just send messages (and "Report/block this person"). Every user can do the same under their privacy settings.
And most of the Windows world didn't switch to a true multitasking OS until Windows XP was released... and that was AFTER OS X came out.
Calm down, cowboy. If true, Zuckerberg not using facebook is hypocritical. (I don't know if it's true - some people posted links to the contrary, I don't care enough to check it out.)
Your nasty little ad hominem attack was way out of proportion to the gp's post. What's really got you angry?
Don't take it personally, but I'm not going to read your pithy response to my post.
Actually the National Enquirer has broken a number of news stories more accurate than other media outlets... And yes, we have degraded that far down if not further down. The average American is now stupider than a 5th grader!
respect his privacy? He's the CEO of a publicly traded company worth hundreds of Billions of dollars. The health of the CEO is material information that should be disclosed to investors, not hidden away. This is especially true for an organization that lives & breathes the the cult of personality.
If Steve Jobs wants his privacy to be respected then I suggest he resign his position from apple. Until then he is fair game.
...did you just accidentally bump into that irrelevant thesis? Or are you just trolling?
Cause you are very much confusing someone who consciously chose to be in the spotlight for their own ego-boosting and enjoyment - and someone who was been a victim of "sexual assault".
And now the person who liked the spotlight while it was warming their ego feels bad about "their make up being all smeared from the heat" and doesn't want that kind of publicity?
Sorry, but that is a COMPLETELY different category than someone who has (even *allegedly) been a victim of a CRIME.
And who's privacy is obviously being handled with a little more more logic and reason than what you tried to push there, even by such a crude and cruel judge as public opinion.
Also, my personal view on the subject has about as much influence of public opinion as my ass has influence on oceanic currents and tides.
*I said "allegedly" cause, on one hand all we have so far is a very short yet VERY unclear report on something that has been characterized as "brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating" by thugs yelling, "Jew! Jew!" [sic] (Logan is not Jewish.) while at the same time being "not a rape." - and on another we have a climate of calling a very wide range of actions a "sexual assault".
See: Julian Assange.
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That's not medication, and probably the only reason you have a subscription for them is that way your insurance will pay for them.
In the '1984' commercial that launched the Mac? The big face on the screen was Steve Jobs.
He grew up watching the Wizard of Oz once a year on television (we all did from that generation.) He identified with 'The Great and Powerful Oz' scene the most.
To extend the metaphor a little, your homework assignment is to figure out who Toto is.
Well MacOS didn't do any kind of multitasking at all until OS X, whereas Windows was Protected Mode long before XP.
Has the media degraded so far that we are now counting the National Enquirer as a reliable news source?
Yes.
Actually, no; it's degraded farther.
And a "trashy" magazine dedicated mostly to hairstyles and movie stars was the one who brought the photos of murdered Emmett Till to light, greatly galvanizing the U.S. civil rights movement.
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Well, they did predict remaining life expectancies of cancer patients before -- for Patrick Swayze, they predicted he had "weeks" to live TWICE, iirc -- first they said it ~2 years before his death, and then again 6 months before his death. I agree that the NE is a reputable source for the things it actually specializes in, and so I do think the the sightings of Steve Jobs are authentic. But predicting the remaining lifespan based on some photographs is bullshit.
Hint: No.
That's the default treatment one should give any politician. Trustworthiness should be proved/earned.
Free, as in your money being freed from the confines of your account.
It is all about stock pumping and dumping.
Nobody believes it is Steve Jobs apart from the same journalists who used to see aliens and flying saucerers all the time. Why would Steve drive a Honda Civic ? Why would he use a 2nd rate US clinic when he went through the treatment at a specialist clinic in Europe ?
I am long in APple shares, and thinks all this is stupid, but after options expires today, there is potential for new record highs.
What happens when Steve is gone ? Nobody knows. But the people in Apple should be able to come up with new products without Steve. Can they find a replacement ? Maybe not. Can they find a QA guy who can approve/reject designs as Steve did ? Maybe. But I doubt he will also be the CEO, but that is not important.
The white space with slashdot 3.0 is getting completely out of hand. The comment above is only 14 lines but take out my entire screen on a 1920x1200 screen, even with a small font. I can put 2 lines between each line of text. Taco: fix this !
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We in the tech world are naturally upset by this disturbing news; more so perhaps the other leaders in the industry. In fact, Steve Ballmer could barely toss a highchair, he was so distraught.
"A government is a body of people usually -- notably -- ungoverned." -Shepherd Book
The way Facebook is designed (and, for that matter, its popularity) means you can't. Or at least, probably shouldn't.
The main reason why is the photo sharing feature. On facebook or not, there's a good change that quite a few photos of you have been made public (yes, including that embarrassing one from last year when you had a bit too much to drink), tagged your name against it and it's there for all to see. There have been instances of people losing their jobs because of photos on facebook - well, you could (at least in theory) lose your job because of a photo of you someone else put up even though you've never used the damn site.
About the only thing you can do to try and prevent this is to sign up, make sure any photos of you are tagged and associated with your login then either remove those tags yourself or set your privacy settings so photos including you aren't public. Until the next time Facebook change their privacy defaults - which they'll do all they like because the users aren't the customers.
It's the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bridge over the main road into town saying "kiwimate is a tosser!" except it comes with photographic evidence and it's much more likely to get distributed to anyone around the world than a bridge is.
Wrong. Windows has had true (i.e. preemptive) multitasking since Windows 95, which was released in 1995. Macs didn't get it until OS X in 2001, and that wasn't ready for actual use for another year or so - in other words, it effectively came out after Widows XP for most users. (Also, remember that the less desktop-oriented successor to Windows XP, Windows 2000, was available prior to then.)
The guy is skinny as hell. According to Wikipedia, people with extremely low BMI are healthier, and less adverse to death. Seriously something is wrong with the message I am getting from all the experts in the media, if this guy is dieing.
Our society's attitude to weight and weight loss is indeed severely screwed up, to the point that people who are basically dying of cancer and losing weight because they can't keep food down anymore are complemented on how much healthier they look...
Live by the sword, die by the sword. If you seek to generate income by invading the privacy of others then expect yours to be invaded for free.
Privacy is a two way street and when it comes to minors, of course it should be compulsory.
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Even if he didn't want it, this automatic elevation of His Steveness to Godhood is what has turned reading or hearing his name into the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. And over the last few years, having this opinion has become akin to swimming into a tsunami.
Tiny as compared to the size of my dick, that is.
When you open up all the abbreviated comments above it it gets fixed. But only until you roll-em-up again.
Commenting this way feels like I'm using post-2007 MS Office with that stupid, paper wasting, default line-spacing and additional space after paragraph. Very annoying.
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Classic MacOS did co-operative mutlitasking.
Sorry but the multitasking in Win 9x was crap as was the rest of the OS. I'm well aware of Windows 2000. As I said MOST of the Windows world didn't switch to a TRUE multitasking OS until XP and it wasn't really ready until SP1, a year later.
At first I though I was readying Slashdot. Then I saw the headline about Steve Jobs....
They may end up as larger than life figures, but celebrities are people too.
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
If you can accept something after you die, it seems you are immortal!
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
I'm not an Apple fan. And I know a bit about Mr Jobs. And I know the good and certainly the bad in terms of Apple. But looking in as someone who has a small number of Apple devices, the technology is always interesting and neat as is all things that are newish in tech terms.
Mr Jobs used to present a true sales pitch each year, and even when I was not going to buy it, it was certainly fun to watch. As to the rest, I hope you get well soon Steve. None of which is anything to do with Apple, or its good or bad Aspects.
We`re all equal
APK! You followed me here too! That's AWESOME. Can you add a comment to your Hosts file in my honor?
Something like, "# I wish I was as cool as Americano @ Slashdot. He's interesting, informative, witty, and insightful. Thinking about him makes me want to choke myself, because it makes me realize what a pathetic excuse for a human being I am." I think that'd be pretty awesome.
The history of the Walt Disney company following Walt's death in 1966 appears to be a strong analog for this situation. The company was driven by the vision of one man leading a team of highly talented individuals. When Walt died, the company went into a kind of auto-pilot paralysis, with everyone asking themselves 'what would Walt do?'. This was all well and good, except for the single critical fact that Walt was considered a genius because nobody could predict what he would do next, or how he would accomplish it. The focus on quality stayed, but the unpredictable spark of creativity wasn't something that you could capture by trying to put yourself into someone else's head. The company went into a stagnating decline that would last nearly two decades.
TL;DR - You can't innovate by trying to guess what a creative genius would have done, you have to find a new one.
To extend the metaphor a little, your homework assignment is to figure out who Toto is.
I don't know who Toto is, but I have it on good authority that they, at some point, saw the rain down in Africa.
Bow-ties are cool.
Sorry, joke fault. I meant, of course, that they blessed the rains down in Africa...
Bow-ties are cool.
...everybody dies. Seriously.
But not everybody truly lives!
Bow-ties are cool.
True. However, when Jobs goes, whether that be in two weeks or two decades, he will rise again in three days, so let's not be worried.
I hope it's not gonna be one of those deals where he rises from the dead, just to say, "See, I'm totally not dead." and then departs the mortal plane forever... That just seems like showing off.
Really, though, if he comes back from the dead, I expect the first thing he's gonna say is, "Oh, one more thing..."
Bow-ties are cool.
Fascism is a political ideology but Apple is not a political entity. Apple cannot be totalitarian since their policies do not carry the force of law and are not enforced by police powers. They just make and sell products, which private citizens choose to buy or not buy.
The metaphor of company:nation is a common one but don't forget that it is a metaphor only. In academia the policies and decisions of a company like Apple would be studied in business class, not poli sci, and certainly not philosophy.
Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I have been deeply involved with cryonics since 1985. Helped on 19 of the hundred Alcor has stored.
In fact the last one I helped with was a pancreatic cancer victim.
If there are people reading this to are in contact with Steve Jobs, I wish they would check with him, just to be sure he has considered (and probably rejected) this option.
It's inexpensive relative to person with Steve's resources.
Keith Henson
End MGM. Get prospective parents of boys to Google: Men do complain
Me:
1) Degree in Biotechnology and Computer Science. (Did your troll factory offer dual majors, or just the standard "how to be an obnoxious twat on the internet" syllabus?)
2) Capable of constructing a coherent argument.
3) Able to use english words in a way that is properly associated with their meaning.
APK:
1) Paranoid delusions.
2) Only able to construct rambling, Incoherent arguments.
3) OFF TOPIC TROLL.
I'd say I'm pretty much the winner in that comparison, friend.
I mean seriously. He may be one of the most famous people in the world,
but even he deserves the privacy in his (may I say final?) weeks.
I bet you saw the exit letter he sent to all of Apple, alone for that he deserves some serious respect.
Please have the dignity to pay him that in this critical time for him.
Diagnosis: APK == OFF TOPIC TROLL.
Prognosis: APK will die unloved and alone.
If you weren't trolling there... well... don't know how to break it to you... then you are pretty darn clueless.
My point, both people deserve privacy even if they are "celebrities".
Except one of those people gave away their privacy willingly, readily, repeatedly and continuously in exchange for "fame and fortune" - and we should for some reason be sad cause it is coming to haunt them now.
And the other one was a victim of an assault... who has her privacy pretty much intact and locked up tight.
So protected in fact, that it's left to public imagination to come up how "brutal and sustained" and "sexual" it was.
Ranging from groping to a "gang rape by up to 20 muslim egyptians".
P.S. Don't know about you, but I find it absolutely hilarious how Rosen was forced to resign his fellowship at New York University - for committing a thoughtcrime.
Truly a land of the free...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
This isn't funny or amusing. It's boring. You're boring us all to tears, APK.
YAWN
...I though he WAS cancer. How can cancer have cancer?
Privacy is a two way street and when it comes to minors, of course it should be compulsory.
And in any other conversation you'd have the majority of /. bleating on about how "I'd let my kids do/see/read/post anything they wanted, they deserve freedom, I trust them, etc., etc.".