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Microsoft Files Dispute Against Current Owner of XboxOne.com
MojoKid writes "Microsoft might have one of the most talked-about products at the moment with the Xbox One, but would you believe it doesn't own the rights to the most obvious domain name to accompany it? Domain squatting is a real issue for companies about to launch a new product. If they register a domain before the official launch, people can find that and subsequently ruin the company's surprise. This particular case is different, however. The domain name wasn't registered just the other day. Instead, a UK resident registered the name XboxOne.com in December of 2011, long before Microsoft itself even likely had a definitive name for its upcoming console. So, what can a company do in this instance? File a dispute with the National Arbitration Forum, an ICANN-approved organization that specializes in dealing with these sorts of matters."
They's better change that ridiculous name instead.
Fork over some money, Micro$oft, if you want it that bad...
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So, what can a company do in this instance?
Maybe come up with more original names for their products?
Fire the product manager who didn't check on the domain and secondly, cut the lucky boy a cheque.
Use a straw purchaser. Probably someone with a track record of domain squatting. So when people see them buying yet one more domain name, they'll think nothing of it.
Yes, that's going to cost money. But in the overall product marketing scheme, its a minor cost.
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Am I the only one that gets the GoDaddy.com spiel when I try to go to xboxone.com? Seems shenannigansy.
If the domain owner had actually been using the name (rather than just to show a default launch page) then I might have some sympathy for them. But those people who speculatively register thousands of domains just to extort money from legitimate users deserve to be sued.
Nobody should ever reward the bad practices of those douchebags. They are the equivalent of patent trolls.
At the moment, XboxOne.com isn't being used for anything, so it's in effect a squat.
You mean they don't have an active website. That doesn't mean the domain name isn't being used for anything. It has A and MX records. Even scanning the ports on the A records and finding nothing doesn't mean it's not being used. It may not respond to any except certain IP addresses.
Now I agree it's likely it's not being used for anything, but as the registrant of several domains which do not have websites associated with them (but DO have email and other services) I call nonsense (if not straight up libel) calling it "in effect a squat."
If you had a sensible naming scheme, this kind of shit wouldn't happen. Either make a unique name, or go the tried an tested 1, 2, 3, 4, etc., method. Xbox -> Xbox 360 -> Xbox One -> Xbox e^(i*pi) is starting to piss people off.
Whew. That was a close one. I have a y=1/(1+e^(-wx)) tatoo (well, the equivalent anyway). I hope to hell they don't use that naming scheme, I'm not ready to upgrade to the next chassis series just yet...
...it's not even in use. It's just the godaddy placeholder.
Normally, I tend to side with the 'little guy' like MikeRoweSoft - he was actually USING the domain.
In this case, the guy's just squatting. Give him some token fund for "good guess what we'd call it" like $1000 and give MS the domain.
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Even if the registration was legitimate, they still used a Microsoft trademark as a portion of the domain name. That is going to cause problems for the domain's owner even if the trademark XBox One didn't exist at the time of registration.
For what it's worth, I pulled up on archive.org and it was some sort of xbox fan site in the past. Depending upon the trail of registrations since then, it is doubtful that a domain squatter owns it.
C'mon guys, this guy just won the lottery.
I for one, wouldn't have guessed it'd be Xbox One, especially not 2 years ago. I Microsoft really wants this name, it's not difficult for them to pony up the dough. Even at 1.000.000$, for MS this would have been a good deal. Going the lawsuit way for someone as powerful as MS, is stupid, they're most likely just going to have haters against them etc.
On the other hand, I don't side with Cybersquatters or people who just purchase 10000 random domain names just because they want to prey on any-company-dot-com, but business is business, if you don't make it your own - it'll be someone else. That's the hard facts of life.
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
Then they'd potentially be violating cybersquatting regulations themselves of which they're accusing the current owner of this domain.
And in reality, no one alive would have thought "XBox One" would follow the Xbox360, if given a set of about 16 reasonable choices.
Isn't that the solution to the equation commonly used to model depletion of a finite resource ( say oil reserves )?
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Or put another way, the rate with which you can deplete a resource is proportional to how much resource you have got times how much resource is left, where unity is all of it.
(The derivative of the depletion curve is the depletion rate curve and looks a lot like a gaussian bell curve, extending from negative infinity to positive infinity, peaking at 0.25, and having a total area under the curve of exactly 1; that is... all of it. )
I only wish more people understood the gravity of these equations.... ignoring their prophecy is going to be our undoing.
You impress me greatly by posting it.
I will post AC as I know this is completely offtopic, but I did want you to know there are others out there who have great respect for that little piece of math you just brought up.
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I just bought xboxminusone.com -- wonder if they'll want that, too?
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Stop being logical.
Next you'll be telling me there's a .US tld.
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were they? that is to say were they obviously trying to leverage that market? To an extent that's no different than say.. PS3Blog.net (a site I frequent and very very rarely write for) which leverages Sony's PS brand. Having not seen the site I would like to know what's on there? Are they impersonating MS? Or did the guy just pick a name that sounded like it would relate to MS to advertise his website that has to do with the MS Xbox console
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my opinion similar situation to ronpaul.com, it was registered long before he retired and wanted his domain. He lost when he tried to take the legit established route to acquire the domain.
Microsoft should also lose this case.
But it won't Microsoft will of course win cause Corporations rule the world
People buy real estate all the time in the hopes that it gains in value...why should domain names be treated specially?
however what you see occurring with cyber squatting nowadays is they aren't just registering 1 or 16 addresses, they are registering 1000's of addresses in every conceivable and many inconceivable combinations that they can come up with. I just went through the agony of trying to register a domain for myself and it took me days and days to find an acceptable combination of words and 90% of what I tried wasn't even a real website, just scumbag cybersquatters who I refuse to pay a cent too.
Go ask any of the McDonalds, whose great-great-great-grandpa 200 years ago proudly called himself "Mr. McDonald", how he or she feels about the mcdonalds.com domain
Go ask Uzi Nissan what Nissan Motor Corporation did (is doing) to him over the name that he registered circa 1996. Uzi Nissan, having a computer shop, bought the domain name of his last name. Never mind that he _also_ had a car dealership called Nissan Motors in the 1970s, when Nissan Motor Corporation was still called Datsun.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
The guy registered a domain name *2* years ago, probably even before MS would look for a name for their upcoming console. This is just another (yet) case of a big company using its legal weight against the small people.
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
Easily solved. Just visit xboxone.com and you will immediately notice it's a parked domain.
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It's probably worth noting, XboxOne.com is way older than 2011, it's been around since the original xbox was released http://web.archive.org/web/20021115163519/http://www.xboxone.com/
Nissan as a company was NEVER called Datsun. Datsun is a brand name, derived from an early model called Datson. Nissan is short for Nippon Sangyo. Which was the earlier company name. Nissan as an abbreviation was invented for the stock market (like AAPL for Apple)
If I go to xboxone.com I get a godaddy add saying I can buy it for $7.99...
well, NOW it's parked after Microsoft brought the lawyers out of leashes and sicked them on the domain owner(s)...
looking on archive.org it seems it used to have an active site on it, for example this snapshot:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110207201840/http://xboxone.com/
OR this one, from the YEAR 2003
http://web.archive.org/web/20031225193949/http://xboxone.com/
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I'm going to start an organization called ICANN, which is a shortening of "I CAN Nick any name I want" and sue ICANN for icann.org. They can change their flippin' name to ICANNT for all I care.
oops.. small case of "spoke too soon"/"foot in mouth", i realize this is from before the "domain created" date, so it must be the site maintained by the previous owners of the domain name, name that had expired by the time the current owner registered it.
Anyway, it's a proof that "XboxOne" was already used by someone else in the context of computer games related stuff even since the year 2002 and IMHO should have not been awarded as a registered trademark to MS...
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WHOIS and Google reveal that he owns a total of 5 domains. Sure, he isn't doing anything with them, but he isn't some faceless "domain squatting corporation" either.
The guy seems to have been the director of a bunch of companies, so he probably understands business. I don't blame him for trying to capitalize on his good fortune. Microsoft will try to use their army of lawyers to either get the domain for free or at a value far below what it is worth to them. I hope he stands up for himself and hires a good lawyer, rather than settling for a derisory sum.
Uhhh...duh? For fucks sake there was already a system called the Xbox so guess what folks called the first one when the second one came out?
That is why I'm asking all of the Internet to join me in refusing to call the new Xbox anything other than Xbox S, S for Stupid God damned name that makes no damned sense, Xbox S for short. This bullshit was soooo thought up by the retarded marketing drones at MSFT that have taken over that company, nobody else would be that damned dumb as to name the THIRD system the Xbox...nope, not gonna say it, Xbox S.
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If i company decides to create a new product with the same name as a domain i own it can take it away from me ?
WTF ???
The first Xbox came out, it was named Xbox, and everyone called it Xbox.
The second Xbox came out, it was named Xbox 360, everyone called it xbox, and started calling the previous one Xbox 1 to differentiate since nobody wanted to say Xbox three sixty.
The third Xbox is announced, it is named Xbox One, everyone realizes that Microsoft should stop hiring brain dead monkeys for their naming division.
It follows the current trend of bringing out new games in a series which have the name of the original game. Which is not to say I disagree - I think that trend and the name "XBox One" are both stupid.
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Just an aside, I happen to know the guy who long ago registered the name "Gateway.com" for his computer/telecommunication business. This was back when it was just a telecommunication term. There was a company who made computers and also liked the term, they called the company "Gateway 2000". Eventually they realized that the year 2000 was fast approaching and that they couldn't stop it and by 2001 their name would look pretty silly. So they changed the company name to Gateway. And then they went after him because he was using "their" domain. Their lawyers made his life miserable, and as far as I know he "settled" but never got anything for his property that was taken except an agreement of some donation to "charity".
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
The company my father worked at prior to retirement encountered this. Their name had been registered by some individual with the same last name as the company. So they approached him and offered him quite a bit, like 20,000 pounds (company was headquartered in the UK, and this guy lived in the UK) for the domain and his trouble moving to a new one. Guy said no. So, to court it went (this was prior to the resolution process via ICANN). The guy lost, and got nothing for it, as the company had a trademark on the name.
People can be really stupid when it comes to this. They think having a domain name that is something a company has should be the jackpot to quick riches, and will turn down reasonable offers. I remember an eBay auction I saw once for the domain "generalmills.cc" at a time when they already owned generalmills.com. The dipstick trying to sell it seemed to think that $10 million was a good opening bid.
So MS may well have contacted this guy and said "Hey you have a domain we'd like, we'll give you a couple grand for your trouble," and he replied "Nope, I want millions," so they are taking him to ICANN's arbitration. If that doesn't rule in their favour, it'll probably go to court as a trademark issue.
It was a fan site, they went down, squatter registered it, and now here we are.
Trademark law is on MS's side, they'll win this. If the guy is lucky, it'll be in ICANN's arbitration and he'll just lose the name. If he's unlucky, it'll go to US courts as a trademark issue and he may owe MS lawyer fees when he loses (which he will).
This stuff isn't a case of "First guy to grab it gets to extort whatever they want." Trademark law doesn't work that way. If someone has a legit trademark on something they defend, they are going to get it.
So if you register a generic name that a company wants, ya that you can pretty much charge whatever for. However if you own a domain that is their trademark, they'll take that away from you, if they want it.
I knew an old chap by the name of McDonald once. If I recall correctly, he had a farm...
Brain dead monkeys are expensive.
Luckily, HTC had a spare monkey that they could get for peanuts.
Note that these sites are both from before the current owner acquired the domain, and both most likely infringe on Microsoft's trademarks through the use of the XBOX logos without permission. IANAL but I suppose the case could be made that the current owner wanted to build on the reputation of the old site, but seeing as how he hasn't done anything with it for such a long time that might be a stretch.
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They shouldn't do anything else but offer to purchase it from the owner, rather than trying to assert their ownership of it now that they actually want it. It's mind-boggling that big companies like Microsoft can't figure out to decide on a name for their product and register domains and trademarks BEFORE actually finishing it.
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No, Mr. MacDonald had the farm.
You don't need permission to use trademarks, if they're not being used in a manner likely to confuse consumers. Company names are also trademarks, but Slashdot isn't going to get in trouble for including "Microsoft" in this article. Whether the use of the logo in this particular case is likely to cause people to think it was an official X-box site is another question, but one that is only likely to be answerable by a judge.
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If you reboot a series then suddenly people seem more forgiving when you continue to release sequels every 18 months.
So .com is only acceptable? They have used .ms before.
Or the fact that HTC did the same crazy naming scheme and released the One X then doubled down next generation with what else but the One.
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when Nissan Motor Corporation was still called Datsun.
Nissan Motor Corporation was never called Datsun. Cars produced by the Nissan Motor Company were called Datsuns, much as some cars from Ford are sold as Lincolns.
I just hope they remember to also register the new console's unofficial name:
xbone.com
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
And their game console design division too, apparently.
Have you seen this thing? And that's even before mentioning the elephant in the room, the laughably suicidal always-online DRM requirement.
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Thank you, that is an interesting bit to know.
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Thanks. I did not know that.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Don't want to just burn karma, but thanks for bringing Uzi's story to my attention.
Here's the link for anyone who would like to read baout it:
http://www.nissan.com/Digest/The_Story.php
And yes, Uzi Nissan still holds Nissan.com (it cost him a lot of money though.).
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He owns the name, to bad, you lost. Pick a new name and move on or buy the name out from him.
Yeah MS didn't have a name for the console 2 years ago but they were going to call it something. I'm sure there are thousands of other domains with Xbox in them this guy just got lucky that his name got picked. Squatting doesn't require that you know the product name beforehand just that you can get names cheap and hit on a right one every once and a while.
Someone really ought to explain that then and than are not interchangeable.
Common sense is not so common
The impression I got from the nissan.com story was that he tried to make a quick buck (when asked for a price, he said "I don't know, $15 million?") and when he realized that made him look bad he turned it around into a victim story.
Don't get me wrong, that doesn't excuse Nissan Motors' behavior. I was considering buying a Nissan Murano in 2005, and chose another brand specifically because of the nissan.com debacle. My wife emailed a copy of the vehicle we purchased instead to their customer service department with an explanation.
Just pay a few million and buy it.
I mean really, while I hate URL squatters, the fact that someone created a website that happened to coincide with a future product is not "in dispute".
The fact that Microsoft's Marketing department didn't spend more than a minute coming up with the new Xbox name is obvious.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
It looks like a traditional home entertainment system component ; they're trying to appeal to the segment of the market that doesn't play games, what with all the TV features they rolled into it, and a they even made a TV series to show on it. Alas, this may be one sharkjump too many.
The impression I got from the nissan.com story was that he tried to make a quick buck (when asked for a price, he said "I don't know, $15 million?") and when he realized that made him look bad he turned it around into a victim story.
Don't get me wrong, that doesn't excuse Nissan Motors' behavior. I was considering buying a Nissan Murano in 2005, and chose another brand specifically because of the nissan.com debacle. My wife emailed a copy of the vehicle we purchased instead to their customer service department with an explanation.
Thank you for the perspective. I hate cybersquatters, but assuming that Uzi was not cybersquatting and legitimately using the name, why wouldn't he ask for a few mil? I don't know if that is what he did ask for, but I sure would do the same if some multinational corporation suddenly wanted dotancohen.com from me. Note that I am not cybersquatting dotancohen.com but rather using it for the purpose for which domain names were intended, as was Uzi doing with nissan.com.
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Honestly I don't see why that should make him look bad. Personally if some mega corp suddenly wanted my domain name, which I do use to receive mail at and to host some other personal stuff on which I can give people a memorable for, I'd ask for a pile of money too.
I mean why not? I have rights to a unique resource someone else has decided is valuable to them. They have no claim on it; I had the name first after all selected for my own reasons. Just like Nissan did, it was his last name after all a perfectly reasonably cause to choose it. Its going to inconvenience me and all of my contacts to change it; maybe not to the tune of a million dollars but its a thinly traded market if demand for it from entity like a Microsoft is high so should be the price.
I'll agree squatting and not using a domain should not be allowed; it is a limited resource there are only so many short, easy to remember, spellable names. Only the dipshits at TSA want to use name most users would need to enter character codes to type or use something like charmap and copy/paste to enter. Otherwise I think if you even so much as receive the occasion mail there and you have an even halfway credible reason why you selected the name in the first place, like "my first cat had that name" quality; it should be first come first serve.
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It's a sigmoid function. Similar to the Error function, or the one used for digital neurons in neural networks...
The company can pay the current owner whatever he wants for the domain, or the company can live without the domain name. The end.
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a friend of mine that works for a big domain registration company, but the name i just cant remember, anyway where they said "If they register a domain before the official launch, people can find that and subsequently ruin the company's surprise." this is very true, my friend would always have some kind of an idea when new products were coming out just cause these companies would buy their domains in advance. At the launch of xboxone, if i remember correctly my friend said Microsoft didnt even try to register the domains until that day, during the event. They were just asking for trouble at that point
Really? So all those Datsun dealers I visited years ago selling after market electronics was just a figment of my imagination? If I could go back in time I'd notify them that they had the wrong sign up.
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Somebody register "xboxonesucks.com." If it's anything like the early 360 there will be plenty of feedback for it shortly after launch...
I love the way registrars & ICANN encourages people to park and sell domains and then if a big guy comes along they just hand 'em over. You suppose He's going to get a refund of all his various fees (with interest)?
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Really? So all those Datsun dealers I visited years ago selling after market electronics was just a figment of my imagination? If I could go back in time I'd notify them that they had the wrong sign up.
Yep - and now you probably think that Scion and Infiniti are manufacturers too? silly goose, played by the corporations so easily.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
This is just more proof that Microsoft is blindly copying Apple without thinking about it.
* iPad 3 is called "The New iPad" when it really is the 3rd generation /sarcasm Fuck clarity for consumers -- let's confuse everyone!
* Xbox 3 is called "Xbox One" when it is really the 3rd generation.
Can we get a sudden-outbreak-of-common-sense for idiotic marketers please. There is a reason we _require_ precise _unambiguous_ names.
They weren't using it before and buying up land on speculation that it will be worth more later is entirely legal.
Is the only thing wrong with it that a company wants it?
not to mention that these companies buy domain names they have no intention of using.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
And that is just more "Stupid God damned name that makes no damned sense" so we should just add an S to the end, so now its Tomb Raider S, or DMC S, and then when people ask what the S is for we can tell them its for a Stupid God damned name that makes no damned sense!
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Maybe it's a cipher:
"After taking a 360 degree turn, we are back to square ONE"
I think I got it! What do I win?
Or the fact that HTC did the same crazy naming scheme and released the One X then doubled down next generation with what else but the One.
Not to mention it may soon have a Nexus treatment from google. What will it be named? Nexus One One? Nexus One Two? Nexus One Mk.II?
some kind of "you automatically lose the argument if the WHOIS returns a hit" rule, sort of like Godwin's Law.
And that domain appears to be for sale by owner through NameSeek.
(damn'd: it mid-2013 already and /. still doesn't support Unicode!)
It's just that most of the interesting (for you) code points and HTML entities aren't on the whitelist. Slashdot had a problem a few years back with vandals who would use directionality override code points to break the layout and spoof a comment's score. I explained it before.
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Precise unambiguous names are good only for marketers that want you to understand what they are selling.
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The difference here with the guy and his McDonalds comment being obviously MS made the Xbox name. This UK fellow has no right to use their companies trademark in his domain name and there shouldn't even be a case. Xbox is a registered trademark of MS, the one doesn't matter.
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When Vista was released I tried Vista.com and it was a very established data business, totally unrelated
to Microsoft. MS walked all over this domain name, I thought ah these poor people. I checked on the site
from time to time, the business model changed over the years to one of working with computer hardware.
Never once did they have a redirect to Microsoft due those coming to the wrong site which impressed me
as them never letting MS change their operation - yet vista.com does redirects to vistaprint.com now.
This XboxOne is MS's fault for not checking first before committing, get over it MS you failed again.
Oh for fuck's sake... Just pay the domain owner. There's no need to call the cybersquatting arbitration wahmbulance.
It's not like the guy registered that domain name going "I bet you that in like two years they're going to go completely insane and name the next console the Xbox One! Man, I'm gonna be RICH!"
Not everything in life needs to be settled with lawyers.
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There was a huge stink back in the early 2000s, when Sting attempted to seize sting.com, a website that had been the front end from a success pest control business for a few years. The funny part was, the guy was more than willing to sell the name to Sting, but Sting never even approached him with an offer. He simply tried to take it to court.
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Redditors were pulling for the xbox infinity. I thought that was a much much better name.
Conveniently, that could also mean "just too stupid".
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I think it's fascinating that people think the only use for a domain name is for web content.
It's perfectly possible to register a domain name solely for use as an e-mail address, and in fact I have a couple of domains I use this way. I'm not saying it's what's going on here, but just because you see a parked domain page when you type it into a browser, doesn't mean it's not used.
But if your name is McDowell, you're ok. Just put a single arch for your restaurant logos, serve "Big Mcs" and you're all set.
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Neither is 'Hebrew'.
Anyway, it's a proof that "XboxOne" was already used by someone else in the context of computer games related stuff even since the year 2002 and IMHO should have not been awarded as a registered trademark to MS...
I'm not commenting on whether or not Microsoft should have any rights to the domain name, but the obvious points to consider are:
The current owner has been sitting on it for almost a year and a half, and to a reasonable person that may look like he's squatting on it.
If Microsoft didn't have any name registration for any form of XBox One when the current registrant registered it (and they likely didn't, becuse you can't have a trademark in the US before you're actually selling something), then they don't have a dispute based on their ownership of the trademark.
Considering how it looks like MSFT is monitoring everybody's Skype conversations since somebody cooked up some bullshit honeypots to see if anybody was watching and sure enough after talking about it on Skype they get visited? You may be a lot more right than you think, scary shit.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Nice, but they'd have painted themselves into a corner when it comes to naming the next one.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
They could probably try checking the domain is free before naming their flagship product. Oh, and they could also have not named the Xbox 3 'Xbox One'.
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more than pulling somehow we got the game blogs to report it as official. I saw it on a few sites and even I didn't remember until the dude popped up to say they jacked his name and I was there when he posted it originally.
Just another second banana
XboxOne.com just points to a parking page. I don't think MS will have any trouble winning this one.
/steve
considering how much Microsoft takes off other people i hope the owner takes them for all they can get. if you have a rare collectable and some one else wants it for what ever reason they would have to pay. just because Microsoft is a big boy should not mean they can just rip them off. if it was me i would want millions, greedy or smart thinking, even if they got xboxone web address to make money on the off chance speculate to accumulate.
This is nothing new. M$ has been convicted of software piracy in the past. Now, they will pay off anyone they can to take away the domain that one of their own fanboys set up years ago. I have seen the site before it was disabled. It was a site for XBox gamers that reviewed the games and game systems and gave advice. Now, all this user gets is the shaft.
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