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Military Drone Lost Over Lake Ontario
First time accepted submitter slipped_bit writes "An MQ-9 Reaper drone has gone down over Lake Ontario during a practice mission. The flight, being operated by the New York Air National Guard's 174th Attack Wing in Syracuse, NY, was going well for about three hours before contact with the aircraft was lost. A search was started but had to be postponed due to weather."
Blame Canada!
How come Slashdot never gets Slashdotted?
In other news, Iran took credit for the downing of this drone as well, saying they have already begun disassembling it and that 'Murica should be very afraid. Pictures have already appeared on the internet of Iranians holding cans of Ginger Ale and eating pancakes, showing their cunning ability to blend in with the indigenous population in order to get close enough to strike at the very heart of the imperialist dogs!
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I get my freshwater from there.
practice/fail/practice/fail...the scientific method in action.
How much was the Drone worth?
But why does a state national guard have an attack wing?
Anybody want a peanut?
15 million dollars in equipment was lost. What's the big deal? I'm sure they spend that much in air-conditioning per day.
Our divers are on it. Soon alcoholic idiots will have drone technology.
Call James Bond as an Evil Cat-Patting Genius has taken control of it. We must recover it before they get our launch codes!
Oh, so this isn't the plot for a movie?
Just an accident. And when the first drone "accidentally fires" on a US citizen... what then?
Sent from my ENIAC
(With apologies to Johnny Five...)
So let me see here. Finder's use an apostrophe, but keepers doesn't? Loser's, again, you felt needed an apostrophe, but you got cheap again for weepers?
Sale in the next 10 minutes...
Newsflash on CBC.
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
Or were they only valid in Colorado? http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/09/06/deer_trail_co_sees_applications_for_nonexistent_drone_hunting_license.html
...to invade Canada was aborted....
-m
....had fallen into Lake Ontario, Rob Ford was heard to say "does anyone have a boat?".
s/practice/practise/g you want the verb, not the noun.
Ok. Wrong lake (Superior, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald) but totally right song to sing about this event.
You would think the aircraft would have it's own built in software to make it not crash. IE. No, I am not making that steep turn because I will lose lift. Or, no I will not dive bomb because I can not pull up in time. Etc.
Canada uses these bad boys in the north to look for lost penguins. No crashes yet :)
Maybe like the robot that 'terminated' itself, the drone also felt guilty about all the spying it was being asked to do, saw a chance, and plunged into the lake.
Let me guess, it will be found on Canada's side and they won't care about getting proper authorization before just marching on my country to get their stupid drone that shouldn't be there in the first place.
The New York Air National Guard has an attack wing?
Much mor worrisome than the drones.
This is exactly why we need moar drones! Those drunkass national guards keep losing them!
moar!
Moar!
MOAR!
drones.
Loses Reapers.
The drone was attached to the New York Air National Guard’s 174th Fighter Wing – the first fighter squadron to be converted from piloted F-16s to an all-drone force.
Wait, what? An F-16 capable of carrying near 18,000 lbs of weapons and flying at mach 2+ is replaced by a drone flying at 240Mph carrying 3800lbs? Well, I'll be danged if someone in the DOD should not be fired for that decision. I could see it if they replace a squadron of A-10s with hundreds of these for close air support, but F-16s?
There have been numerous previous crashes of Reaper drones. Drones are expected to see much wider civilian use in the United States when the first federal permits are issued, which is expected in 2015, and regulators are keenly examining such crashes as they develop safety guidelines. The international market for drones is also expanding.
Okay, so they don't have a good safety record and we accept that since it's Defense. I'm good with this, but then they state...
“I have quite a bit of confidence in the safety of the airplane,” he said. “If you compare it to other platforms or aircraft that are flown by the Air Force You’ll see that it’s a much safer platform.”
So they have a higher crash record than any manned platform, no feedback for what is going wrong, yet somehow they are a "safer platform"? I guess that depends on what you are keeping safe. Pilots, okay. Tax money? Nope. Our borders? Nope, not that either.
As long as they hype the drones, people ignore why we have those for "Defending our borders". The ANG role is the last line of defense against an invading air-force. Reapers and Predators can't shoot down a MIG or SU of any type. Seems like a huge conflict of interest to man the ANG with these.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
NT
Flying in low over the lake, the last image captured was a tentacle reaching up .....
Have gnu, will travel.
Why don't you go back to usenet where you belong?
Our preemptive invasion of Canada has ended already. :-(
It's painfully obvious that he meant the keepers belonging to Finder, and the weepers belonging to Loser. So Finder has several goalies, or "keepers", and Loser cries a lot.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
The drone was attached to the New York Air National Guard’s 174th Fighter Wing
They found it. Apparently it got stuck to one of the fighters.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
Having lived in Syracuse I'd say forget searching any time other than July and August.
Damn worst weather in the US.
Edmund Fitzgerald
Fort Drum is in Syracuse the same way that Bethlehem PA is in NYC.
Idiots.
I hope the pilot wasn't injured!!!!!!
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
Oh sure, a "practice" mission.
Ontario, it is known
Never gives up a drone
When the winds of November come early
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Wait, what? An F-16 capable of carrying near 18,000 lbs of weapons and flying at mach 2+ is replaced by a drone flying at 240Mph carrying 3800lbs? Well, I'll be danged if someone in the DOD should not be fired for that decision.
The usual fate of an upstate New York air base is to be closed or re-purposed. Keeping F-16s and their pilots at operational readiness is expensive --- and it is an expense that is increasingly hard to justify.
... the power of poutine !!!
'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
I think you meant:
Finders keepers!
Loosers Reapers
But Semmel said that a search for the aircraft had been called off Saturday evening because of bad weather in the area. He said the Coast Guard would use a 47-foot vessel out of Oswego, N.Y., and a helicopter out of Buffalo to search for wreckage when conditions permitted.
Why not search with another drone?
Drone shot down and recovered by farmer who later said
"ha got it"
...the hover time locked to a bedroom window with all the cameras running at max bandwidth is LIMITED.
Jeez, you just can't get good drone drivers these days.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
oh, don't say that, you will force cold fjord to come with some lie to justify these crimes
If it does not involve Edward Snowden Cold Fjord isn't interested
Right, Mr. Cold Fjord ?
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
The end of man has to start somewhere.
I think there's something wrong... with my head.
I read the tag as "SuperMangoTit" and was going to look it up on KnowYourMeme.com.
Don't worry, I figured it out before it went that far.
Side note: I like the way other sites use underscores to replace spaces in tags. Makes tags much more readable.
I guess they'll have to postpone the invasion of Canada.
we better start posting fliers on telephone poles now.
Have you seen this drone?
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Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Ordnance going away as 'damaged' or 'lost', solo or in excercises, is how insurgencies were/are supplied all the way back to when the US supported Castro, as well as Bautista. According to an ex-_____'s recent declarations.
Of course, it could also have been just a normal accident with an extremely costly piece of equipment programmed for self preservation in adverse and hostile conditions - including loss of communications and garbled or wrong commands. Or maybe it was one of the older models, with 'open' wifi and simple gps? Naaaah.
For sale: Used, slightly wet MQ-9 reaper drone, responds to the name Fido.
Am I the only one wondering what the tag Super Mango Tit means?
In Soviet Russia, dot slashes YOU!
With Frickin Laser Beams!!!
Honestly, who gives a shit. They were designed to be lost.
At $17M each, you'd think they'd be designed to *not* be lost. How many $17M "designed to be lost" drones can we afford to send on one-way missions?
Maybe, but the alternative in many cases is sending $60+ M fighters instead (plus a pilot).
So while losing $17M is not something that should be done often, it's better than losing $60M plus having to make funeral arrangements.
I believe it would be more accurate to say 'Military drone lost *in* Lake Ontario.' If it was lost *over* Lake Ontario, we should be able to simply find it with radar.
anti-aircraft canoes will be known around the world. Moo haa haa haa.
On these things?
A bullet may have your name on it, but artillery is addressed to " Whom It May concern"
hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my Lake Ontario it is.
At least we didn't lose a red-blooded patriot pilot.
Don't Fear for the Reaper.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Taliban Suicide Ducks, and Alcida Terrorist Geese.
Am I the only one that feels uncomfortable about flying drone strikes into Canada?
... A family of four and their pilot were reported missing when their "Lake Ontario Helicopter Tours" flight failed to return. Search and Rescue teams are being forced to wait while a "military operation" of some sort finishes up in the area.
The asian carp start showing up in the great lakes and suddenly aircraft fall from the skies... coincidence? yes, definitely.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/asian-carp-dna-found-in-lake-michigan-1.2416488
Manta 1 - Telemetry Weak
Manta 1 - Telemetry Lost
Finders Keepers!
In other news, MQ-9 Reaper parts are now available on EBAY, free shipping to US and Canada destinations.
If you haven't seen Loose Change and In Plane Sight on youtube you might want to watch them.
Sent from my ENIAC
I have a hypothesis
You're a few years too late.
Thus at one time westerns were popular, Americans saw themselves as these cowboys, fighting for something, standing for something, whatever
Now zombie movies are all over the place, everybody is into them. People see themselves for what their society is - a bunch of zombies, from the zombie economy, which is really no longer alive, it's dead and it feeds on other economies and turns them into zombies, to these war machines, which are not dead nor are they alive, but they are out there, searching for people to feed upon.
Except most zombie movies are about the people who are still alive. That's what Americans see themselves, as the survivors, who are still smart and resourceful and use capital (that chainsaw, that shotgun, that car that still works) to overcome obstacles, and have no problem maiming and exacting violence upon the zombies who are no longer human.
The zombie apocalypse survivor is the modern age cowboy, but instead of shooting bandits and Indians (who are seen as subhuman, since it's totally ok to disregard their freedom and chase them off the land) they're shooting looters and zombies (who are also seen as not human). Americans didn't change in their violent ways, they just ran out of acceptable politically correct targets to shoot, so they turn to shooting zombies. Or robots. Or zombie robots.
Let it be aimed at Rob Ford!
In other news, there's a free drone in/on lake ontario! finders keepers!
It went down because of explosion. I thought my house was hit. Maybe anti drone missile testing?