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This 1981 BYTE Magazine Cover Explains Why We're So Bad At Tech Predictions

harrymcc (1641347) writes "If you remember the golden age of BYTE magazine, you remember Robert Tinney's wonderful cover paintings. BYTE's April 1981 cover featured an amazing Tinney image of a smartwatch with a tiny text-oriented interface, QWERTY keyboard, and floppy drive. It's hilarious — but 33 years later, it's also a smart visual explanation of why the future of technology so often bears so little resemblance to anyone's predictions. I wrote about this over at TIME.com. 'Back then, a pundit who started talking about gigabytes of storage or high-resolution color screens or instant access to computers around the world or built-in cameras and music players would have been accused of indulging in science fiction.'"

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  1. It was a "joke" back then by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has
    a 150 MHz processor, 200 megabytes of RAM, 1500 megabytes of disk
    storage, a screen resolution of 4096 x 4096 pixels, relies entirely on
    voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300.
    What's the first question that the computer community asks?

    "Is it PC compatible?"

    (Source unknown...)

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    1. Re:It was a "joke" back then by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      The question would be IBM compatible, back in the early 80s

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    2. Re:It was a "joke" back then by dingen · · Score: 1

      So sad we still don't have 4K square screens available for the general public. Everything else has exploded, but pixels are still lacking.

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    3. Re:It was a "joke" back then by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      You don't need 4K^2 pixels. Your "retina" can't see them anyway, apparently. At least if you're hardware is "iPC" compatible.

    4. Re:It was a "joke" back then by narcc · · Score: 2

      That would depend on the physical size of the display and your distance from it.

    5. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Good catch...

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    6. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      You don't need 4K^2 pixels. Your "retina" can't see them anyway, apparently. At least if you're hardware is "iPC" compatible.

      Sure, and your retina can't see VGA resolution resolution either.

      Not if you stand far enough away from the screen...

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    7. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Jahta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you Google "Byte magazine covers", you'll see that the covers often took a certain amount of artistic license. They were designed to be eye-catching on news-stands. But the content was always very good. I'm sure I'm not the only one who was sorry to see it go.

    8. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This reminds me of Isaac Asimov's Elevator Fallacy. If we imagine ourselves back in the 1800's when buildings were no taller than 10 stories, and then talk about how towering behemoth buildings stretching 100 stories high exist, a science fiction writer would talk about how there would be sky lobbies so that meetings can be held along the way up the building, and that at the end of the day, to avoid the long trek back down the endless stair case, a slide would allow those at the top of the building to travel all the way down in a matter of minutes.

      That, or the elevator would be invented.

      It's exactly these unforseen technological changes that make us laugh at the predictions from earlier, as the pain points back then are completely irrelevant and solved today, only to have new ones exposed that were never even thought of. Who would have considered it abnormal back in the 80's to need to add and remove media constantly from their system, but would even have thought of software needing to be efficient because of power consumption?

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    9. Re:It was a "joke" back then by zippthorne · · Score: 5, Funny

      The slide would still be pretty neat, though...

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    10. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you Google "Byte magazine covers", you'll see that the covers often took a certain amount of artistic license.

      I'm not even sure that one needs to excuse it as "artistic license".

      To me- and I suspect almost anyone at the time- that looks as if it were quite clearly intended as a non-literal but eye-catching metaphor for "one day we will have wrist watches as powerful as today's personal computers".

      I honestly don't think for a second they were suggesting that such a machine would *actually* resemble a ludicrously miniaturised PC...

      (Skims the actual article)

      Okay, so even the article itself understands that the original image was tongue-in-cheek; something the summary doesn't make so clear. And I do understand the point it's trying to make about predictions of the future looking like the present with high-tech bells on. But at the same time it slightly weakens the point being made, as there are probably many seriously-intended examples of "future tech" that are almost as silly!

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    11. Re:It was a "joke" back then by DrXym · · Score: 4, Informative

      Some buildings do have slides

    12. Re:It was a "joke" back then by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The cover image is obviously not supposed to be an attempt at predicting what a real working computer on your wrist would look like. If it had attempted this, most readers at a glance would probably not recognise what it was suppose to be.

      So the artist simply took a recognisable object (early 80s computer) and shrunk it onto a wrist. Job done, eye catching cover that the reader can immediately understand.

    13. Re:It was a "joke" back then by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I like the elevator analogy. The fact is that even when prognostications get something right--they inevitably get the context, implications, and effects all wrong. That's because they get one invention or innovation right, but every invention and innovation has to be understood in the context of the million other inventions, innovations, and social changes that surround it.

      So one person guesses in the mid-19th century that we will have horseless carriages in the future--but also thinks they'll run on steam engines and cause great depletion of our wood and coal supplies. Another person forsees the internal combustion engine, but thinks its only practical use will be in industry. Another person forsees high-grade steel, but thinks it will be used just for girders. Another person forsees an interstate highway system, but thinks it will be used for giant horse-drawn land trains. No one person truly predicts the automobile and its actual effects and implications. No one person puts it all together.

      That's why all these reports that come out predicting the future (beyond the obvious) always crack me up. Such arrogance. About the only prediction guaranteed to be accurate is that the future will be far different than any of us can possibly imagine.

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    14. Re:It was a "joke" back then by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also laughed when Asimov described spaceship controls as so complex, that only a robot with a positronic brain could handle them. Yep. a "computer" using levers and pulleys to steer a starship. :-)

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    15. Re:It was a "joke" back then by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      That's not going to stop them from doing it. In the next couple of years, a phone with a 4K display could be a real possibility. It won't be 4K^2, because the screens aren't square, but it will have the same effective resolution. They have to upgrade something to keep people paying high prices for devices. As technology improves, the same old stuff gets cheaper, and this creates lower profits for manufacturers as the barrier to entry gets lower. This is why you can now buy a laptop for under $300, and won't need to be updated before it dies. Contrast that to 15 years ago when I bought my first desktop machine, which cost close to $2000, and even then had to spend money on upgrades within a couple years.

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    16. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the most terrifying thing I have ever seen (being a claustrophobic)

    17. Re:It was a "joke" back then by ruir · · Score: 1

      No I was not really sorry it was finished. In the 80s the content were rather good, fenomenal, there were some technical insights, and often very interesting and catching articles. By the 90s, the drop in quality was rather noticeable and I wouldnt touch it even with a pole.

    18. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Most authors back in Asimov's day saw the world like that - astrogators using books of navigation tables, slide rules, taking sextant readings from the stars, etc.

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    19. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the screen can be excused and the micro floppy is about as small as a micro sd card. Not that someone would fit one in a smartwatch. But the tiny keyboard is really an artistic license. Were we supposed to type on it with pins?

    20. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the space predictions from the '60s and '70s are spot-on and we must spend trillions to make them come true, right?

    21. Re:It was a "joke" back then by coastwalker · · Score: 0

      It was obvious that the covers were not intended to represent future trends, they were often works of art that didn't even get the technology of the time correct.

      Maybe modern journalists should be taking a cold look at the modern world instead of lazily looking for things to mock in the old.

      For example the cell phone has mutated into a games machine that everyone on the planet appears to want to own. We don't need swipeable screens or flappy birds to build nuclear power stations or do open heart surgery. However Microsoft for one is attempting to destroy the tools that run the modern world because they don't look like the more profitable smartphone.

      Let me remind you of the digital watch. They were popular for a few months in the late 70's and only exist now as novelty's. The smartphone is the same in that it will look laughably stupid in 30 years time.

      Making consumer hardware is a fashion business and the only certainty is that today's fashion will be out of fashion tomorrow, remember that the next time you promote stuff in the smartphone toy market.

      Meanwhile we 'almost' have Douglas Adams Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy from 1978. A product that accessed the entire knowledge of the galaxy, could play sound and vision, all without noticeable power needs.

      Show me a poxy smartphone that doesn't need charging at the end of the day.

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    22. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Sun · · Score: 2

      I actually think Jules Verne got a surprising number of things quite accurately. In fact, I seem to recall that his depiction of mid 20th century as less personal and more polluted got him into trouble with his publisher. He did not get all of the inventions 100% accurate, but he did have some pretty impressive hits as far as tone and atmosphere go.

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    23. Re:It was a "joke" back then by rossdee · · Score: 1

      You can't even (afforadably) get computer monitors with more than 1080p resolution, and bigger than 27 inches, but about 5 years ago I got a 1920x1200 28 inch monitor for $250

      But I have a tablet with 2560x1440 or so on a less than 9 inch screen.

      Maybe you don't need 4kx3k sreen or higher, but it would be nice to have higher resolution so you can pick the size that you want. In the days of analogue displays you could have less than the full resolution but you can't do that witht a digital display unless you go to 1/2 or 1/3 of the maximum res.
       

    24. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > "a smartwatchwith a tiny text-oriented interface, QWERTY keyboard, and floppy drive."

      I'm pretty sure I've got one of those in my junk drawer.

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    25. Re:It was a "joke" back then by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Which is exactly the point the article makes. That we're bad at predecting technology, because we tend to think along the lines of an evolution of existing technologies. But can't imagine even small but substantial new technologies. (in my example obviously the servo engine that could be used to control mechanical devices directly without a robot.)

      Another case of "almost right" is from the same Asimov book (I didn't read more than that plus the short stories) is an exact description of a GPS device used for navigation. While the actual use was a spot on hit, the user interface was as far off as possible: No one could imagine LED/LED displays, so the device was a rod that heated the handle when you pointed it in the right direction.

      Do you know that feeling when you're watching old speculative fiction pieces and suddenly realize that despite all that future tech, in a given moment, they's give their right arm for a simple Nokia cellphone? :-)

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    26. Re:It was a "joke" back then by tsqr · · Score: 1

      they get one invention or innovation right, but every invention and innovation has to be understood in the context of the million other inventions, innovations, and social changes that surround it.

      In "The World Set Free" (published in 1914), H. G. Wells described a devastating nuclear weapon that continued to "explode" over a period of days or weeks. Very advanced technology, indeed. But they were launched by hand, from biplanes, after the pilot initiated the reaction by biting a fuse.

    27. Re:It was a "joke" back then by operagost · · Score: 2

      The popular dystopian vision of the mid 19th century was that our cities would become knee-deep in horseshit by the early 20th century.

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    28. Re:It was a "joke" back then by tsqr · · Score: 4, Informative

      And yet, some sci-fi authors have shown amazing technology foresight. In the dystopian novel "Shockwave Rider" (1975), John Brunner coined the term "worm" to describe a malicious program that propagates itself through a computer network. And though he failed to predict the smartphone, his protagonist uses public phone terminals to hack government computer systems and create new identities for himself. Really, a remarkable book.

    29. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      The best part of Star Trek for me was when Motorola came out with the StarTac, and I realized that in three generations, science fiction could become science fact.

      BTW, since I need to give up my keyboard in the next generation anyway, can anybody recommend a hard plastic flip cover for a Samsung S5?

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    30. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      You can't even (afforadably) get computer monitors with more than 1080p resolution, and bigger than 27 inches, but about 5 years ago I got a 1920x1200 28 inch monitor for $250

      You can still get them, newegg *very* occasionally puts a 1200 on sale.

      I figure it'll be another 2-4 years before the new '4k' televisions start trickling down to computer monitors. That will be nice.

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    31. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The book of binary log tables is the sine qua non of Heinlein's Starman Jones, though it's really there just so it can be taken away so Jones's eidetic memory wins the day. The idea of having to program the computer in binary to figure out where to go is very amusing.

    32. Re:It was a "joke" back then by swillden · · Score: 2

      The popular dystopian vision of the mid 19th century was that our cities would become knee-deep in horseshit by the early 20th century.

      Which was a pretty reasonable projection, given that the cities were all ankle deep in horse manure in the mid 19th century. It was a huge problem. It's a great example, though, of how the apparently-insurmountable problems that we face in the near future are often not just addressed by new technology, but completely obsoleted, made irrelevant because the underlying solutions to other problems change. In the 19th century the problem appeared to be how to collect and transport kilotons of manure daily. But the real problem was how to provide transportation without horses.

      Our current problem set includes the pollution generated by the solution to the horse manure problem. Perhaps the solution is how to make cars that collect, rather than emit, all their pollution, or to make cars that merely emit substantially less, or to make electric or hydrogen-powered cars that don't emit anything (moving the emissions, perhaps), to reduce the amount of travel we do (e.g. telecommuting), or perhaps something entirely different which none of us can even envision (FYI, my prognostication is that it'll bit of each of the above, but I'm probably wrong).

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    33. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brunner hit the nail on the head a number of times. Read 'Stand on Zanzibar' if you haven't already and tell me we're not living in that world right now.

    34. Re:It was a "joke" back then by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

      Also, does it come with an inflatable bench? Because I need one with a built-in bench.

    35. Re:It was a "joke" back then by swillden · · Score: 1

      I don't think we'll see displays above ~1000 DPI. Yes, manufacturers will have to find something to convince people to buy new devices, but there are limits beyond which it just doesn't make sense. Marketing will push us some distance past those limits, but the farther past them you go, the harder it gets to sell the idea that it matters when it clearly doesn't.

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    36. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Immerman · · Score: 1

      I mostly agree, except that smartphones will go out of style any time soon. Consider, it offers: a phone, a pocket watch, a still/video camera, a calculator, a GPS, an internet terminal, a media player, an event calendar/day planner with alarms, etc,etc,etc. All in one convenient form factor roughly the same size as a flip-phone and for under a $100 (for entry-level devices). Perhaps the form factor will change into a watch, glasses, or neural implant, but I have a hard time imagining them going away, or being broken back up into multiple devices. For the simple reason that the computer is *the* enabling technology of our time, and if you have enough of a computer to operate a cell phone it's only a small increment in cost to provide a general-purpose computer with all the bells and whistles, and odds are good that most people would like at least one or two of the other features that makes possible.

      Certainly battery life is an issue, but one that's easily fixed with better batteries and/or much more efficient CPUs, screens, and radio technologies - all of which already exist in the lab or even in limited production runs, even if they are currently more expensive than what most manufacturers want to integrate into a phone.

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    37. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the solution is how to make cars that collect, rather than emit, all their pollution

      Well, as they used to (still do?) say, the super-clean modern engines actually made any air sucked up through the intake cleaner in places like LA.

    38. Re:It was a "joke" back then by BigZee · · Score: 2

      You're pretty much spot on here. The keyboard would have needed a stylus no thicker than a pin. Surely anyone could see that the picture is intended to be a metaphor.

    39. Re:It was a "joke" back then by drainbramage · · Score: 0

      I WISH we were only knee deep in it.
      Oh, you weren't talking about politicians?

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    40. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Yep. a "computer" using levers and pulleys to steer a starship. :-)

      To be fair, any autopilot mechanism is going to have to physically move something at some point, if it wants to actually affect the behavior of the ship and not just make computations about it.

      Asimov's mistake was thinking that these actuators would be the same ones used for manual piloting, rather than a separate set that was hidden somewhere else in the spacecraft.

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    41. Re:It was a "joke" back then by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the solution is how to make cars that collect, rather than emit, all their pollution, or to make cars that merely emit substantially less, or to make electric or hydrogen-powered cars that don't emit anything (moving the emissions, perhaps), to reduce the amount of travel we do (e.g. telecommuting), or perhaps something entirely different which none of us can even envision (FYI, my prognostication is that it'll bit of each of the above, but I'm probably wrong).

      Or someone invents practical teleportation out of nowhere and renders the whole issue completely moot. And people look back and say "I can't believe we put so much effort into that issue and it didn't even fucking matter in the end." Kind of like the "Free Silver" issue. At the turn of the 20th century, everyone thought it would be one of the defining issues of the 20th century. In the end, it didn't amount to jack shit.

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    42. Re:It was a "joke" back then by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 1

      And the whole point of this cover is to be a joke - showing a "future" computer that is clearly completely impractical, because you would need a magnifying glass to read the tiny text on it, and because it would be completely impossible to actually type on a keyboard that small. The artist was having fun by pretending computers would just get smaller without changing in any other way, when this clearly couldn't happen in real life.

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    43. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

      And it wasn't just the manure: In 1880, New York City removed 15,000 dead horses from the street. Chicago removed 9,202 horse carcasses as late as 1916! Moving the 1,300 pound carcasses was no easy task "“ special trucks that hung low to avoid excessive lift had to be made. Think today's traffic is bad? An 1886 article in the Atlantic Monthly described Broadway as congested with "dead horses and vehicular entanglement."

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    44. Re:It was a "joke" back then by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      dead horses and vehicular entanglement

      BAND NAME! Called it!

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    45. Re:It was a "joke" back then by multimediavt · · Score: 2

      Arthur C. Clarke probably had the most "hits" with future tech of any sci-fi author I know of. He and a Russian predicted satellites in 1945. He's had a few others, and there are more if you google him and "predictions". He was not only a writer but a bit of a scientist and avid scuba diver til the day he died. Wish I could have met him.

    46. Re:It was a "joke" back then by mpe · · Score: 1

      So one person guesses in the mid-19th century that we will have horseless carriages in the future--but also thinks they'll run on steam engines and cause great depletion of our wood and coal supplies.

      The first steam driven vehicles date from the early 19th century. One of the problems with the London Steam Carriage (of 1803) was that it cost more to run than a horse drawn carriage (needing a fireman in addition to a driver.) There were steam cars built which used liquid (petroleum based) fuels too.

      Another person forsees an interstate highway system, but thinks it will be used for giant horse-drawn land trains.

      By the mid 19th century nobody would seriously consider trains drawn by anything other than a locomotive.
      Even around the turn of the 20th century there was plenty of competition between steam, internal combustion (both types) and electric engines when it came to "horseless carriages". Ironically a century old electric car can have a similar range to a modern one.

    47. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the accompanying text for the cover page:
      ""Future Computers" is our cover theme this month and the subject of the editorial. Before you write to comment on our cover's "unusual" design approach (created by Robert Tinney), keep in mind the proximity of April 1."

      Reminds me of NPR's April Fools this year.

    48. Re:It was a "joke" back then by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Clearly, with all that push towards convincing everyone that the wearable tech is the next new thing that you don't want to miss out on (all those various attempts at wrist phones/watches, Google glass and variations on that theme...) SOMEONE has already figured that out some time ago.

      There's simply a rather fixed limit what you can do with a pocket sized device and what you can use it for - technology-wise.
      Service-wise (like making stuff payable by phone or making every phone into a camera) takes both various technology advancements and accurately guessing (or convincing) the public and its needs.
      Both those goals are limited with function.

      Making you take it out of your pocket and strap it to your body... That just takes convincing you that it's cool.
      The only really limiting factor there is fashion.

      I.e. It's low hanging fruit.

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    49. Re:It was a "joke" back then by MXB2001 · · Score: 0

      I disagree about the arrogance bit. I give them credit for attempting the impossible. You could have said foolish which would have been fairer. Hubris too. But arrogance is way off.

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    50. Re:It was a "joke" back then by tadas · · Score: 1

      The question would be IBM compatible, back in the early 80s

      and whether it runs Flight Simulator..

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    51. Re:It was a "joke" back then by swillden · · Score: 1

      I don't think that argument went away, it just changed. The core of the concern about silver was that the proposed bimetallic standard overvalued it, meaning that 50% of the value of silver coins would be fiat, not market, value. The issue only "went away" because we opted (for better or worse) to go 100% fiat. So we eliminated the debate by making the problem anti-silverites were declaiming (if it is a problem) infinitely worse.

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    52. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, taking the ridiculous notion of computers interacting with the ship via mechanical pulleys and levers, this is exactly what fly-by-wire is, and for the very same reason.

    53. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      I have a Korean 27" 1440p monitor i got for $300 about a year ago. I'm planning on getting that new Samsung 4k monitor with my next paycheck for $700. You just need to know where to look.

      The over 27" part is a good point though.

    54. Re:It was a "joke" back then by mpe · · Score: 1

      Most authors back in Asimov's day saw the world like that - astrogators using books of navigation tables, slide rules, taking sextant readings from the stars, etc.

      An obvious example of this would Heinlein's "Starman Jones" from 1953. Where the use of such tables forms a critical part of the plot. With the real Apollo Guidance Computer being far more "user friendly" :)

    55. Re:It was a "joke" back then by mpe · · Score: 1

      Sure, and your retina can't see VGA resolution resolution either.
      Not if you stand far enough away from the screen...


      e,g, if it's the visor on your "cleaning suit".

    56. Re:It was a "joke" back then by fermion · · Score: 1
      And it is the innovators that can imagine the context in the present that make the future. This idea that we might all like a computer on our desk. That radio might be supported by more interesting things than just reading out a list of prices. That a punch card might be used for more than making cloth.

      BTW, I think Heinlein got it right with the waterbed.

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    57. Re:It was a "joke" back then by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      ... and since you said teleportation, your future prediction would be completely ruined by the sudden realization that you can safely establish stable wormholes with stuff that's already in most homes.

      I don't trust any forward looking statement. Business people throw those around all the time, which always equates to "I hope we stay in business". They never make the forward looking statement of "In the next 6 to 9 months, I hope we go bankrupt, and the shareholders murder us."

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    58. Re:It was a "joke" back then by badbart · · Score: 1

      Every time I read "Shockwave Rider" (finally available for Kindle!), I'm more convinced awed by Brunner. Most recently I was struck by the parallels between what happens to San Francisco in his world and how close we came to losing New Orleans. And I find his "plug-in lifestyle" to be even more prophetic than his pervasive computer tech--though like everyone else, he completely missed mobile/wireless.

    59. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna check that book out.

      Two other books that came out around the same year: The forever war and the mote in god's eye. Both fucking amazing.

    60. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thinking of possible future-tech here when I say that maybe humans don't need to have 4k monitors, but machines can make use of extreme high-res screens...

    61. Re:It was a "joke" back then by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      The limiting factor was the size of a pocket. The form factor is the same calculators have used for yonks. Now, it may be that someone makes a smartwatch but do you have any reason to believe those will be more successful in the long term than calculator watches turned out to be?

      Smartphones are general purpose computers in a portable format. I doubt they will be replaced or displaced any time soon. Personal computers did not totally replace mainframes either. They just have a larger market. In the case of a smartwatch the problems are how to conduct input and output given the small size. Aside from sci-fiesque projections of virtual displays into thin air what else can you do?

    62. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Cito · · Score: 1

      I'd definitely love to slide down Empire state building!

    63. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Immerman · · Score: 1

      I did love my calculator watch back in the day....

      I think a suitable smartwatch might have lasting potential, if only because it need not *look* like a smartwatch. At the retro extreme there's no reason you couldn't install a round screen behind a nice bezel and have the e-ink (or other low-power) screen normally display whatever clock face the user chose - presto, a styling wristwatch that can transform into a miniature smartphone at the touch of a button. And of course more modernistic and organic options are available as well, especially with bendable screens that could conform to a bracelet. Probably not as comfortable a form factor to use as a phone, but it might well appeal to enough people to give it a market, especially if it incorporated a micro-projector/camera combo capable of creating a much larger interactive touchscreen on any convenient flat surface. Or think of it as a fashion accessory - a smart bracelet could display any color, pattern, or animation at the touch of a button - fashion to suit your mood. Make them sufficiently cheap and I bet you there'd be a market for that, and once you've got that much hardware on your wrist you may as well incorporate all the other e-gadgets you might want to carry as well.

        What I don't see a realistic long term market for though is the current silliness where the smart watch is little more than a dumb terminal slaved to a smart phone in your pocket. The whole point of a wristwatch or wrist-calculator (other than as a fashion statement) is that it frees you from having to carry around (and inevitably forget) the pocket-sized version.

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    64. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robert A. Heinlein was no slouch at it either, having predicted the water bed, the "squeeze gun" that Germany actually used in WW2, the remote manipulators known as "waldoes" in his honor, and a whole bunch more...

    65. Re:It was a "joke" back then by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      I also think a bracelet makes more sense as a form factor than a phone. ASUS had a conceptual design like that.

    66. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      If I remember correctly, "Caves of Steel" had the protagonist using his well-worn pocket computer for calculations. That was in 1953.

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    67. Re:It was a "joke" back then by unitron · · Score: 1

      dead horses and vehicular entanglement

      BAND NAME! Called it!

      A bit long for a band name, but it could certainly be an album title.

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    68. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      But the elevator already existed long before the science fiction stories were written. The first modern elevator was installed in 1857 and demonstrated a few years before that. Earlier elevators exist; the first known one was believed to have been built by Archimedes in 236 BC. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    69. Re:It was a "joke" back then by doccus · · Score: 1

      I'd definitely love to slide down Empire state building!

      Until you get to the bottom ;-)

    70. Re:It was a "joke" back then by doccus · · Score: 1

      I like the elevator analogy. The fact is that even when prognostications get something right--they inevitably get the context, implications, and effects all wrong. That's because they get one invention or innovation right, but every invention and innovation has to be understood in the context of the million other inventions, innovations, and social changes that surround it.

      So one person guesses in the mid-19th century that we will have horseless carriages in the future--but also thinks they'll run on steam engines and cause great depletion of our wood and coal supplies. Another person forsees the internal combustion engine, but thinks its only practical use will be in industry. Another person forsees high-grade steel, but thinks it will be used just for girders. Another person forsees an interstate highway system, but thinks it will be used for giant horse-drawn land trains. No one person truly predicts the automobile and its actual effects and implications. No one person puts it all together.

      That's why all these reports that come out predicting the future (beyond the obvious) always crack me up. Such arrogance. About the only prediction guaranteed to be accurate is that the future will be far different than any of us can possibly imagine.

      Yup.. how the heck you'll ever get that 2 inch high 20 Megs HD in that watch, I dopn't know ;-)

    71. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the elevator analogy. The fact is that even when prognostications get something right--they inevitably get the context, implications, and effects all wrong. That's because they get one invention or innovation right, but every invention and innovation has to be understood in the context of the million other inventions, innovations, and social changes that surround it.

      So one person guesses in the mid-19th century that we will have horseless carriages in the future--but also thinks they'll run on steam engines and cause great depletion of our wood and coal supplies. Another person forsees the internal combustion engine, but thinks its only practical use will be in industry. Another person forsees high-grade steel, but thinks it will be used just for girders. Another person forsees an interstate highway system, but thinks it will be used for giant horse-drawn land trains. No one person truly predicts the automobile and its actual effects and implications. No one person puts it all together.

      That's why all these reports that come out predicting the future (beyond the obvious) always crack me up. Such arrogance. About the only prediction guaranteed to be accurate is that the future will be far different than any of us can possibly imagine.

      Does it count as a paradox? That individual advances seem modest and predictable, yet the world as a whole seems wildly different than anyone had thought?

    72. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I miss Ample Annie.

    73. Re:It was a "joke" back then by toddestan · · Score: 1

      You can buy a 4K monitor today for $700. And it's not some Korean mystery brand either:
      http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=210-ACHO

      One thing that isn't obvious though is that it's a 30Hz monitor. All the 60Hz ones, as far as I can tell, are still in $1000+ territory.

    74. Re:It was a "joke" back then by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      One thing that isn't obvious though is that it's a 30Hz monitor. All the 60Hz ones, as far as I can tell, are still in $1000+ territory.

      I should probably have put some disclaimers in my post about affordability and suitability. I'm not a refresh snob but I can't help but think that 30Hz is a bit slow for gaming, perhaps even video watching.

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  2. That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...isn't too far removed from a micro-SD card.

    1. Re:That micro-floppy by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1, Informative

      In appearance maybe, but the technology itself is not even close.

    2. Re:That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you, Captain Obvious.

    3. Re:That micro-floppy by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think he drawing showed a miniaturized typical computer of the era primarily because the artist wanted it to be recognizable as a computer on the wearer's wrist. A drawing of a Pebble would have shown a smooth featureless slab; it would also have been hard to represent an RF data connection replacing physical data transfers, even if such things had been envisioned 33 years ago. (Although not impossible: Dick Tracy comics showed lightning bolts coming from the "2-way wrist radio" back in the 1950s.)

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    4. Re:That micro-floppy by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      Thank you, Captain Anonymous.

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    5. Re:That micro-floppy by petes_PoV · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Forget the tech - that's the least important part. The function is exactly the same: removable storage. So in that respect it works just fine.

      You also have to remember that the cover (and all articles about "the future") are written for a contemporary audience. Therefore all the stuff mentioned or described has to be acceptable to those people. If the artist had just drawn a small plastic chip, it would have been meaningless. A floppy disc, although nobody who could ever claim to be a Byte reader would consider it viable, signposts the idea of miniature storage.

      In that respect it was prescient.

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    6. Re:That micro-floppy by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Informative

      > signposts the idea of miniature storage.

      Indeed, it is still the standard icon for "Save file to disk" almost 2 decades since the most likely disk destination became "the hard drive".

      I remember back in 1998/1999 somewhere one computer magazine ran an article on "what will replace the floppy disk" ? Many ideas were touted, in subsequent letters most readers were betting the farm on ever-cheaper and faster rewriteable optical media as cd-burners got cheaper too.
      Nobody saw the USB flask coming until it was upon us - let alone it's more recent offspring like the MicroSD.

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    7. Re:That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A floppy disk holds information and can be booted from.
      A micro-SD card holds information and can be booted from.

      Sooo, "not even close" means "almost exactly the same" to you?

      Man, you are NOT EVEN CLOSE to being a diva.

    8. Re:That micro-floppy by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      We always try to write the present on both the future and the past. It's human nature.

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    9. Re:That micro-floppy by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      Nobody saw the USB flask coming until it was upon us - let alone it's more recent offspring like the MicroSD.

      I seem to remember CompactFlash cards being reasonably common before USB flash drives showed up.

      I think the progression was something like: PCMCIA->CF->MMC->SD, and USB Flash (and other stuff like Sony's MemoryStick) branched off around the same time as MMC.

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    10. Re:That micro-floppy by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      >I think the progression was something like: PCMCIA->CF->MMC->SD, and USB Flash (and other stuff like Sony's MemoryStick) branched off around the same time as MMC.

      It's possible that this was a South African magazine - at the time laptops (and thus PCMCIA ports) were pretty much the exclusive terain of executives here - normal folk (even in companies) had desktops.

      I do remember that the article itself concluded that the most likely winner was going to be JAZ Zipdrives... instead they died a quiet death not long after.

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    11. Re:That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .

      A floppy disc, although nobody who could ever claim to be a Byte reader would consider it viable, signposts the idea of miniature storage.

      In that respect it was prescient.

      Hmm, 34 years later, the equivalent of a 'floppy' is the size of a fingernail, holds 100,000 times more data, accesses the data much faster and uses vastly less power. I don't think teen-aged me would have believed it.

    12. Re:That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In appearance maybe, but the technology itself is not even close.

      Like this cover featuring the HP-150 touchscreen from October 1983. The technology back then was two row of IR LEDs/photodetectors in the bezel of the monitor, but gorilla-arm was a UI problem back then, too.

      (The by-line for that issue - UNIX on micros - turned out to have come true in spectacular fashion, however.)

    13. Re:That micro-floppy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in subsequent letters most readers were betting the farm on ever-cheaper and faster rewriteable optical media as cd-burners got cheaper too.

      Unfortunately the vendors fucked up the software, there were at least two competing packet writing soloutions (directcd and incd) and you weren't nessacerally gauranteed to get either of them with your burner.

      If the designers of CD-RW had agreed on a packet writing format and mandated that software supporting that format was bundled with every burner maybe it would have taken off as a repacement for the floppy.

    14. Re:That micro-floppy by jfengel · · Score: 1

      They're both removable storage, but even that function is conceived very differently now. Floppies are intended to be swapped in and out; the picture even depicts somebody sliding one in. They had very small capacity, and you'd use multiple floppies as an organizational tool the way we now use directories. (MS-DOS had directories, but CP/M just had a flat file structure since it only supported 200k floppies anyway.) The idea that a chip that small would also store 1000x more data would have been dismissed as hilarious.

      SD chips tend to be fairly immobile: some are removable (especially on devices like cameras), but in most cases they tend to just stay there. You can get the SD card out of my phone, but you have to remove the case and a battery to get to it. We've substituted networking for most of the "removability" of a floppy drive. I know that some printers still support using SD cards as sneakernetting, but I suspect that more and more cameras will just end up with built in networking. The main reason to remove the chip will be to put in a bigger one.

    15. Re:That micro-floppy by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I want an SD card that has a label that looks like a floppy. Or, better yet, one where it actually does have the hole in the middle.

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    16. Re:That micro-floppy by astro · · Score: 1

      The death of Jaz / Zip drives, IIRC, sounded like a loud "CLICK-CLICK-CLICK-CLICK" - it wasn't so quiet.

    17. Re:That micro-floppy by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      General failure has you all ranked. Tough it's been a while.

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    18. Re:That micro-floppy by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      34 years later, the equivalent of a 'floppy' is the size of a fingernail, holds 100,000 times more data, accesses the data much faster and uses vastly less power.

      And is 243 times as easy to lose.

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    19. Re:That micro-floppy by YVRGeek · · Score: 1

      Actually, I remember many discussions back when we were still using 8-inch floppies that postulated that some kind of non-volatile solid-state storage was coming. The *idea* was obvious to everyone even in the 70's and early 80's but the technological expression was unknown. I specifically remember (unfortunately not where I saw it) a rendering in a magazine (probably Byte) of a device with a small clear plastic hatch above a square socket into which you hot-plugged a sugar-cube sized piece of solid-state memory (an artist's conception). I seem to recall that this "nonexistant device" would use a miniaturized, faster kind of EEPROM (Intel created the first EEPROM, the 2816 back in 1978)... mmmm... sounds a lot like Flash Memory! Seriously, EVERYONE with any sense knew that something like that was coming... and long before most ./ readers were born.

  3. Surely ironic by Trapezium+Artist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    C'mon, it's entirely obvious that that "PC on a watch" painting is a rather clever piece of irony or even satire, not a meaningful prediction of an actual future piece of technology.

    That doesn't mean I disagree with the point of the discussion, namely that we're not that great at predicting the directions of future tech, but using this magazine cover as a direct illustration of that is, IMHO, rather disingenuous.

    1. Re:Surely ironic by Trapezium+Artist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OK, now having read the linked article (oops), I do see that the author (Henry McCracken) realised that the cover painting had a humorous intent (not least that it was the April edition of BYTE), satirising the conservative opinion that future tech was likely to be an extension / miniaturisation of the then-prevalent PC paradigm.

      Good to see I got it, though :-)

    2. Re:Surely ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      > That doesn't mean I disagree with the point of the discussion,
      > namely that we're not that great at predicting the directions of
      > future tech

      I think that depends who "we" are, most technologists understand the principles of technological advancement - the rate at which computing power increases, the tendancy towards miniaturisation, increasing battery capacity in smaller space, convergence of devices, areas of research. Given this, most technologists know what's coming.

      The people who aren't very good are journalists, and casual users. Take this gem:

      "(One classic example: When it became clear that Apple was working on an âoeiPhone,â almost all the speculation involved something that was either a lot like an iPod, or a lot like other phones of the time. As far as I know, nobody expected anything remotely like the epoch-shifting device Apple released.)"

      It's just complete nonsense, anyone working with smartphones at the time was completely unfazed by the iPhone - the first edition wasn't entirely dissimilar (and was notable underfeatured compared to) offerings from companies like Nokia, and HP with their iPaq phones. It was a game changer in America, but America was for some obscure reason completely behind on phone technology - when I used to visit in the early 00s it was like I was from the fucking future because I had a phone that could play Doom, music, and so forth on it, and this is why commentary from Americans about how incredibly "epoch-shifting" the iPhone was looks like complete drivel to Europeans and Asians, or even Americans who had some understanding of our mobile markets.

      The article is an illustration of a journalist discovering the fact that as a journalist he knows not the slightest fuck what he is on about when he starts talking about the future of tech. It says nothing else about how the rest of us understand the future of technology though.

    3. Re:Surely ironic by sunderland56 · · Score: 2

      Why satire? Given the current smartphone - is the prediction far off? Sure, the screen can do graphics *and* text, the keyboard is usually on-screen, and the removable storage is flash instead of floppy - but the basics are all there.

      Plus, everyone is saying that the smartwatch is the 'future of wearable computing' - if true, the Byte prediction will be even closer to the truth.

    4. Re:Surely ironic by Trapezium+Artist · · Score: 2

      Good point; I did use the word "we" in a rather catch-all manner there, and I'd also agree that technologists are likely to have a much better record at predicting the future than journalists.

      But I'd then turn the tables and say that it depends on the timescale implied by "future". On a ten-year horizon, I'd agree that technologists are likely to have a pretty good idea what's coming, in part because they're likely to be working themselves actively on new technologies and products for release on similar sorts of timescales.

      But on a 100 or 50 or even 30 year horizon, as this article refers to? It seems clear to me that on some timescale, even technologists are unlikely to be that close, if only because they're probably called "futurologists" at that point, or "science fiction writers" :-)

      On some timescale, almost everyone is going to be pretty much guessing ...

    5. Re:Surely ironic by RDW · · Score: 2

      "It's just complete nonsense, anyone working with smartphones at the time was completely unfazed by the iPhone - the first edition wasn't entirely dissimilar (and was notable underfeatured compared to) offerings from companies like Nokia, and HP with their iPaq phones.

      Though 'nobody expected anything remotely like the epoch shifting device' is over the top, the main point is hardly complete nonsense. Most of the speculation was indeed heavily influenced by the iPod and older style smartphones:

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      Apple was seriously considering a clickwheel-based design 15 months before the iPhone was unveiled:

      http://www.idownloadblog.com/2...

    6. Re:Surely ironic by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Because typing on that tiny keyboard looks impossible with out some kind of typing needle.

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    7. Re:Surely ironic by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      The game changer of the iPhone wasn't features. It was UI and updates. Prior to iPhone, you typically would never receive software updates for your phone. After all, why bother, it doesn't sell more phones. The opposite, even. Bug frustration was a reason why people would "upgrade" by buying new phone whenever they hit the end of the contract period.

      Apple was big enough to force the phone companies to allow updates to happen.

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    8. Re:Surely ironic by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Quite how much it was "satire" upon that point or that it was simply a catchy- but still obviously non-literal- visual metaphor (as I commented above) is open to question.

      Either way, it's definitely not meant to be taken straight. I mean, I doubt this computer magazine is literally suggesting that one can squeeze more data into their computer by robot hand forcing it in!

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    9. Re:Surely ironic by njnnja · · Score: 1

      The BYTE editorial that the cover was based on was about how new technologies were shrinking computing, such as the 3.5" disk and the Osborne 1. The toshiba "tv-on a watch" was a fail but it's interesting that they noted 2 products of actual historical significance. The editors also made the astute observation that "Osborne is currently seeking approval from the FAA to operate the unit on board a plane". Only took 3 decades!

    10. Re:Surely ironic by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      Symbian got updates ALL the time.

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    11. Re:Surely ironic by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, IFAICR, the updates did not appear to add features or remove bugs - they visibly added more and more DRM. Signed by Synmbian made it was insanely difficult to get apps installed from the start.

      I still have, and use, Symbian 60 phones - the upgrade process means that I cannot actually move to a newer version. There have been no updates for years - and unfortunately - I cannot install any apps (or even re-install the old ones) because the signatures have expired and no one maintains them.

      Disclaimer: I am a happy Cyanogenmod user.

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    12. Re:Surely ironic by Johann+Lau · · Score: 2

      With a dual-purpose typing needle it could be pretty killer though.

    13. Re:Surely ironic by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      Gentlemen - I bring you the Samsung Stylus!

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    14. Re:Surely ironic by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No single feature on the iPhone was a game changer, it was a combination of many incremental improvements. For example, the use of a capacitive touch screen that could be operated with a finger, and the UI to match. Back then pretty much all smart phones had to be operated with a stylus or at best a sharp finger nail. A small improvement, but huge in terms of usability, especially for short tasks.

      There were already many smart phones around at the time, but if you saw someone dicking around on one for a few minutes at the bus stop, chances are it was an iPhone. Apple's small improvements added up to a lot of usability.

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    15. Re:Surely ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, I doubt this computer magazine is literally suggesting that one can squeeze more data into their computer by robot hand forcing it in!

      Oh, you doubters. Of course it is possible!

      Take a hard-drive; fill it up completely with data. Get a second hard-drive; do the same. Get a robot-hand, place the two hard-drives beneath it. Engage robot hand in "crush" mode. In a short time, those two hard-drives will take up half the space they used to; your data has been compressed by mechanical means!

      Further compression may be possible (eventually, you may have to replace mechanical compressors with gravitic fields to get to ultimate compression at neutron-star density).

      Decompressing the data is a challenge left up to the user.

      It's a perfectly plausible scenario, and we will one day look back at the prescience of Atari User and marvel at their foresight!

    16. Re:Surely ironic by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's just complete nonsense, anyone working with smartphones at the time was completely unfazed by the iPhone

      Oh really?

      Chris DeSalvo right after the iPhone unveiling:

      As a consumer I was blown away. I wanted one immediately. But as a Google engineer, I thought ‘We’re going to have to start over.’

      What we had suddenly looked just so . . . nineties,” DeSalvo said. “It’s just one of those things that are obvious when you see it.

      Andy Rubin after the iPhone unveiling:

      "Holy crap," he said to one of his colleagues in the car. “I guess we’re not going to ship that phone."

      Yeah, they were totally unfazed. Oh wait...

      http://theatlantic.com/technol...

    17. Re:Surely ironic by operagost · · Score: 1

      Yeah... HP is an American company, but no Americans had smartphones. OK, Eurotroll.

      We had lots of phones that could play MP3s, but the storage space was limited. I'm sorry that the people you knew were behind the times.

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    18. Re:Surely ironic by djrobxx · · Score: 1

      The game changer of the iPhone wasn't features. It was UI and updates. Prior to iPhone, you typically would never receive software updates for your phone. After all, why bother, it doesn't sell more phones. The opposite, even. Bug frustration was a reason why people would "upgrade" by buying new phone whenever they hit the end of the contract period.

      Apple was big enough to force the phone companies to allow updates to happen.

      Updates were there, they were just a lot slower due to the handset manufacturers needing to test and customize updates.

      What was revolutionary was the iPhone's ability to navigate around a "full size" web page or map intuitively and fluidly, at high speed with multitouch gestures. Prior to the iPhone, mobile web browsing was a positively miserable experience.

    19. Re:Surely ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a US N95 user I must politely disagree, at least to an extent. Yes, we got updates, but usually after the rest of the world and then with features missing (and we never got the last update). That phone had some of the best hardware I'd ever seen in a phone, but I'll never buy another Nokia product because of the way they dropped us after it was out the door.

    20. Re:Surely ironic by corrosive_nf · · Score: 1

      The game changer of the iPhone wasn't features. It was UI and updates. Prior to iPhone, you typically would never receive software updates for your phone. After all, why bother, it doesn't sell more phones. The opposite, even. Bug frustration was a reason why people would "upgrade" by buying new phone whenever they hit the end of the contract period.

      Apple was big enough to force the phone companies to allow updates to happen.

      Well except for Blackbery, Symbian, and Windows Mobile huh?

    21. Re:Surely ironic by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      It took less than three decades. However after 9/11 laptop and cellphone use on airplanes was banned. I remember at one point Iridium mentioned airplane communications for plane travelers as a possible market.

    22. Re:Surely ironic by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      BREAKING NEWS!

      Political cartoonists do not literally mean that Obama is an equid and Romney is a pachyderm.

      We now return you to your scheduled program.

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    23. Re:Surely ironic by sslayer · · Score: 1

      Well, I still like more the old PalmOS interface with smaller controls that could easily be touched with precission, either with the stylus or with the nail. I don't see capactive screens as inherently better.

  4. Fair point but. by thechanklybore · · Score: 2

    Looking at the image it's totally clear to me that it's just visual metaphor. Clearly the artist was not suggesting that this was a workable idea, simply that watches would soon be like computers. This rather makes the rest of your analysis seems fragile.

    1. Re:Fair point but. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      The article makes it abundantly clear that this it's satire.

      I'm guessing the submitter didn't bother to click his own link.

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    2. Re:Fair point but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The submitter is the author of the article, you dimwit.

      I guess you didn't bother to read the summary.

    3. Re:Fair point but. by thechanklybore · · Score: 1

      True. However the article goes on to use the cover as a springboard for ideas on how bad we are at predicting technology advances. Given that the point of the picture is to show watches becoming computers, and the current trend for "smart" watches, I'd say that shows the complete opposite. We may be bad at predicting the specific form-factors of technology, but the prevailing idea of miniaturization seems spot on.

    4. Re:Fair point but. by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      Ah ... so it's a slashvertisment then?

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    5. Re:Fair point but. by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      What? Next you're going to be telling me that this cover isn't actually a prediction of future computers moving data around via tiny steam engines.

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  5. "it's also a smart visual explanation of why..." by Arduenn6058 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FTFA:

    "it's also a smart visual explanation of why the future of technology so often bears so little resemblance to anyone's predictions"

    No, it's not an explanation at all. It was intended as a metaphor for miniaturization of electronics. Noone in their right mind would take a full QWERTY keyboard with keys the size of pin heads literally.

  6. It is art by art6217 · · Score: 5, Informative
    It is art, no prediction. It is obvious from the first glance. And the article confirms it:

    If you're tempted to assume that the image was actually a serious depiction of what a future wrist computer might look like-well, no. Inside the magazine, which only had a brief editiorial about future computers, the editors pointed out that it wasn't a coincidence that it happened to be the April issue of Byte.

  7. QWERTY Keyboard by phizi0n · · Score: 2

    Anyone with half a brain could realize that watches would never have keyboards so tiny that the only button you could press using your fingers (more-so your nails) would be the space-bar. The rest of the image is plausible and not far removed from what we have now.

    1. Re:QWERTY Keyboard by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      I remember, in the 80s, some of the kids at school had smart watches with a keyboard on them. And yes, the keys were basically little round buttons 1mm in diameter, and you had to use your nails to press them. I think they were made by Sharp, maybe.

    2. Re:QWERTY Keyboard by Megane · · Score: 1

      Calculator Watch

      GIS for calculator watch

      I particularly like the one built around a generic 2x20 text LCD.

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    3. Re:QWERTY Keyboard by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      I particularly like the one built around a generic 2x20 text LCD.

      This one?

      That's the uWatch, an open-source open-hardware DIY scientific calculator watch by Dave Jones of EEVBlog fame. He designed it simply because his old Casio CFX-400 calculator watch finally broke, and the only replacements were all basic 4-function models.

      It also plays chess...

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    4. Re:QWERTY Keyboard by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      There were some with a full set of calculator keys which included a stylus clipped to the strap.

      Also there was the PalmOS Fossil watch (a stylus, but no keyboard).

  8. will smart watches ever catch on? by pr100 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what the killer argument for smart watches is. That's not to say that there won't be a market for smaller devices that smart phones. But the real issues are display size and input method. Current smartphone sized displays can't be strapped to your wrist, and its not clear that a smaller display is useful in a general purpose device. If glass-type devices take off then it's possible then you solve the display problem, but then why would you want a watch too?

    1. Re:will smart watches ever catch on? by mlk · · Score: 1

      The Rufus Cuff is tempting. I could see the move from my current Galaxy Note 2 to one of these and tablet with stylus. Mostly for running and convenience to look stuff up. I love my Note but it is big when whipping it out, but note quite big enough to write on. If I'm to deconverge I'd want the "quick glance" thing to be quick-glance-y and that is a watch or Glasses.

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    2. Re:will smart watches ever catch on? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Arguably, the existence of such a device is an argument against the utility of the 'smartwatch' notion: Both are wrist-mounted; but that cuff-thing is basically an entire phone (at least before the horrors of the Phablet Era) strapped to your wrist, science-fiction-communicator-widget style. A direct refusal to sacrifice the screen size, computational and battery power, and other advantages of a larger device.

      There's certainly an argument to be made for such things; but as an alternative to just storing your phone in your pocket, not as a different class of device.

    3. Re:will smart watches ever catch on? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My judgement is probably biased, because I loath my phone and its interruptions; but 'smart watches' appear to be devices that you attach to your wrist because your phone is configured to bother you so often that you need a second, more easily accessible, device to provide a summary of the incoming demand on your time and attention in order to see if you should follow through with taking your phone out of your pocket.

      Maybe I'm just getting bitter in my old age and shouting at those damn smartphones to get off my lawn; but if something isn't important enough to take my phone out of my pocket for, the fact that I'm being alerted to it is a software configuration defect that should be solved by my phone shutting the hell up, not by it phoning my watch to demand attention.

  9. That's the point! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "is a rather clever piece of irony or even satire"
    Yes it was, it was a joke back then, now with smart phones we have even more functionality in a small package that they even dreamed of and made jokes about back in 1981

  10. Clearly a joke by DrXym · · Score: 1

    It's pretty obvious that it was a visual joke rather than a serious representation of a computer on a wrist. Anyway no smart watch has managed to sell well so it's not like what we call a smart watch today is what people want either.

  11. Something lost by guises · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ugh. Every once in a while I'm reminded of just how much we've lost (and continue to lose) with the death of print media. Byte was shut down before its time, but there used to be so many good zines like it.

    I guess 2600 is still around, maybe I should get a subscription before I forget. Are there any other decent zines still in print? I should do an Ask Slashdot instead of just posting a comment...

    1. Re:Something lost by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Byte was shutdown for unknown reasons buy its publisher - its circulation at the time was still way higher than most tech magazines. It could easily have still made a ton of money and still be going.

    2. Re:Something lost by Megane · · Score: 1

      Byte was dead by 1993. There was some kind of Computer Shopper clone magazine that took its place (and name) for quite a few years thereafter, but it wasn't Byte. They even managed to get Pournelle's column into this doppelganger of Byte.

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    3. Re:Something lost by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Once Circuit Cellar was gone Byte was on a death watch. I blame the PC really for Bytes death since it limited subject matter that made money and there were a number of PC mags that covered just the PC.
      In the early days you had Apple IIs, Tis, Commodores, Ataris, TRS-80s, Cocos, Sinclairs, a huge number of CP/Ms machines, PCs, and even 86 based machines that were not PC compatible like the Tandy 2000, Zenith 100, DEC Rainbow, and Ti Pro. Then you hand systems like the Altos and Sage.
      Later you had the Mac, Amiga, and Atari ST.
      It was just a lot more diverse and interesting then. Today the only place that is really interesting is the mobile space and maybe GPU compute.

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    4. Re:Something lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2600 is $200 for a lifetime subscription.

  12. Prediction fail by Bazman · · Score: 2

    The prediction fail with that watch is the idea that you need any form of input. These days, phones, tablets, and smartwatches are purely consumption devices, designed to pump content into your brain, force you to watch ads, and take money from your pocket. At least, that's what the big corporations want. How many futurists saw that coming?

    1. Re:Prediction fail by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      You could plug a smartphone or tablet into a screen and with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard quite happily create things.

    2. Re:Prediction fail by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Depends on how much credit you want to give for predictions that correctly interpret the purpose and effect of the shift; but provide no technical detail whatsoever.

      Would the grim ruminations of the marxists concerning the distribution of the means of production qualify? They tend to either be writing about smokestack industry or broad historical trends, specific implementation unspecified; but some of them would probably feel pretty well validated by the (substantial) shift from computers that provide programming tools by default, to computers that don't ship with any; but can run some if you obtain them elsewhere, to computers that explicitly and artificially forbid essentially all program production(on the device itself, if you SSH into a real computer Apple and friends don't much care what you type on their shiny tablets).

      I don't think that the sort of techies who like techology enough to enthusiastically prognosticate about the future of it would have guessed "In the future, computers will be opaque closed boxes. And consumers will fucking love it with the same intensity and in far greater numbers than you did your obscurantist geek box. Where is your god now, nerd?"

    3. Re:Prediction fail by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      Plenty of futurists imagined watches that functioned as one-way radios or one-way TVs.

      Short of a two-way radio, I can't think of anybody imagining a wristwatch would be a great way to create content.

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    4. Re:Prediction fail by Tokolosh · · Score: 1

      "It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future." Apparently an old Danish saying, but attributed to various people.

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    5. Re:Prediction fail by miller701 · · Score: 1

      George Lucas did!
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...
      ducks incoming flame fest

  13. Reader Service Card... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of us remember using those as a kid to get info about stuff...

  14. That drawing was a joke, but by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We genuinely are bad at predicting the future of tech, but it's usually not because we're too fanciful. It's usually the opposite. Tech predictions usually fail because we're way too conservative. That's partly the reason behind this joke drawing in 1981. Now predictions about almost everything else - society, politics, and social adoption of tech - are usually way too optimistic. But tech predictions are way too pessimistic. Here's my effort at a perhaps better future prediction: We'll have much better AI than we do today and it will know everything about everyone. Yet it will not be google, or anything like google, but a service catering to intelligence agencies. Poverty and destruction of the ecosystem will continue at a worse pace than it is going now. We will have the capability to cheaply explore other planets, but we won't actually have a colony on any planets. We'll have the capability to feed everyone in the world yet global hunger will still exist and maybe even be worse than it is today. Rich nations will be richer and poor nations will be poorer. Strong AI will eventually come about then promptly proceed to kill everyone. Not because it hates us, just for liebensraum. Have a nice day.

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    1. Re:That drawing was a joke, but by khakipuce · · Score: 1

      I think you need to look at what drives innovation, i.e. making money. This in general this is done by making things more efficient, which has been going on since at least the industrial revolution and selling things that people need or want which has been going on at least since people started building towns.

      Going to other planets takes a lot of energy an is expensive, how does it make anyone money? Until someone finds a big return on investment from space travel, either because it makes something more efficient than the cost of traveling to space or produces a good that people want, there will be no incentive to develop the tech to cheaply explore other planets.

      AI is perhaps more likely, especially since it can make things like intelligence gathering and health care much more efficient. BUT, and this does seem a bit curious, society seems to optimize for efficient use of human resources. Think about clothing production, it is still all sewn by people on sewing machines, why? Because the cost of setting up and running CNC machines to do it out-weighs the cost of just getting cheap labour.

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    2. Re:That drawing was a joke, but by jonhorvath · · Score: 1

      I bet the energy companies could make tons of money from the large methane lakes on Saturn's moon, Titan.

      http://www.space.com/8556-larg...

    3. Re:That drawing was a joke, but by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      We genuinely are bad at predicting the future of tech, but it's usually not because we're too fanciful. It's usually the opposite. Tech predictions usually fail because we're way too conservative. That's partly the reason behind this joke drawing in 1981. Now predictions about almost everything else - society, politics, and social adoption of tech - are usually way too optimistic. But tech predictions are way too pessimistic.

      More precisely, futurists like Osmo A. Wiio have stated that people don't understand exponential growth -- they overestimate short-term progress, but underestimate long-term. There are lots of almost unnoticeable advances that make people cry "where's my flying car" and yet over time those advances add up, amplifying each other, and we suddenly find ourselves beyond the need to fly.

      Technology advances because techies remember the past and build on it, learning from past mistakes -- politics, on the other hand...

      liebensraum.

      Leben = life; lieben = to love :P I think I'll start using that term in place of "get a room".

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    4. Re:That drawing was a joke, but by Woeful+Countenance · · Score: 1

      Hm. Right now, space exploration is being done by robots. Maybe the robots will take over all the other planets (and stuff), leaving Earth as a kind of poor-house for humans.

    5. Re:That drawing was a joke, but by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      The blue guards in Wolfenstein 3D shout "Mein Leiben!" when they die, or that's what I seem to hear.

  15. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Noone in their right mind would take a full QWERTY keyboard with keys the size of pin heads literally.

    Do you mean these guys?

  16. Already out of date by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Casio released the C-80 calculator watch in 1980 which is almost identical to this but a better design. The floppy was (and still is in word processing) a universal symbol for portable storage so it would be a micro SD card today but other than that I don't think he was far off.

  17. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Casio did. Well, it was an alphabetic order rather than QWERTY, but they did put it in their organiser line of watches.

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  18. instant access to computers around the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    instant access to computers around the world

    Actually, in 1981 the internet existed, you could FTP and use email, as long as you knew the bang path routing.

    It wasn't for 2 more years after 1981 that I learned of it, but I knew people that were using it in the late 70's even. Contrary to what seems to be the popular public belief, the internet didn't start in the 1990's. That's just when the masses became aware of it, largely due to the influx of AOLers.

    Granted it was much smaller then as far as number of connected machines.

    1. Re: instant access to computers around the world by Viol8 · · Score: 2

      Quite. Its amazing how many people today still think the internet = the web. Mention stuff like ftp, gopher, archie or WAIS and you just get blank looks.

    2. Re: instant access to computers around the world by deadweight · · Score: 1

      In the early-mid 80s it was no sure thing your email and your friend's email addresses could find their way to each other. I do remember gopher and archie being very cool. The "web" was annoyingly slow to me when I first started playing with it. Also remember USENET! It still exists I guess - haven't looked - but rec.xxx had awsome "forums" and who can forget their first furtive foray into alt.binaries....

    3. Re: instant access to computers around the world by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Yeah , usenet is still around. There arn't many servers that still carry it even for a price, but there is one good free one - aioe.org though how much longer it'll be around is anyones guess. Google seem to be doing their best to stuff up google groups however.

    4. Re: instant access to computers around the world by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

      And before tools existed to automate it, cut/pasting the various alt.binaries files (1/6, 2/6 etc) together prior to feeding it to your uudecoder.

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    5. Re: instant access to computers around the world by deadweight · · Score: 1

      And then getting 49 good sections out of 50 :(

    6. Re: instant access to computers around the world by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      I remember being at University in Cardiff in 1979 and chatting with the Exeter or Bath or Bristol operator on the South Western University's Network or SWUN or similar. We conversed as I typed on a teleprinter terminal, each letter I typed being printed on the two foot wide paper roll scrolling out in front of me by a buzzing print head. No screen. So we had instant messaging. We also had email and 3d graphics on the textronics video display units. You could run realtime jobs on any of the computers on the network if you had a login.

      The only thing that has changed is that business has taken over from academia and the military and we now use this amazing network connectivity to do other things. We order pizza on it and lose money betting through it and get instant updates on what everyone else had for breakfast. So no progress there really except for better interface hardware. We old farts invented all that stuff that the smartphone does nearly 35 years ago and boy are we bored with what it has become. A means to funnel money from people into businesses profit lines by paying for "apps" and services that remain free on older hardware.

      The fledgling internet was opened up to the public in the early 90's through dial up and TCP/IP using trumpet winsock. First stop the CERN snowboard club.

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    7. Re: instant access to computers around the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There arn't many servers that still carry it even for a price, but there is one good free one - aioe.org though how much longer it'll be around is anyones guess.

      Which is really sad.

      If you think of it, USENET was basically a CDN. Store-and-forward, globally-distributed content distribution network. The case can be made that the binaries groups still are. A few terabytes (back then, a gigabyte or two) of storage at your ISP's newsserver guaranteed that the bandwidth-intensive task of watching video (back then, looking at still images) kept the traffic local to your ISP, rather than clogging the relatively narrow backbone that connected ISPs. When viewed, content was downloaded from the CDN to the local user's machine, and no further bandwidth was consumed.

      Binaries are a gross abuse of the original design intention, but it was, and still is, an efficient, global, and distributed way of managing a BBS with tens of thousands of message boards. Any desktop could act as a text-based USENET server.

      USENET's real problem is that it's an open protocol that is owned by nobody, so there's no obvious way to monetize it. (Google Groups, formerly Dejanews, had a decent idea of wrapping a web interface to make it more accessible and to put ads around queries, but as you point out, they screwed it up by making it Javascript-reliant and ... just about everything else they've done to it. Ugh.)

    8. Re: instant access to computers around the world by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      instant access to computers around the world

      Actually, in 1981 the internet existed, you could FTP and use email, as long as you knew the bang path routing.

      It wasn't for 2 more years after 1981 that I learned of it, but I knew people that were using it in the late 70's even. Contrary to what seems to be the popular public belief, the internet didn't start in the 1990's. That's just when the masses became aware of it, largely due to the influx of AOLers.

      Granted it was much smaller then as far as number of connected machines.

      Well, it was also a DARPA (ARPnet) project back then and only participating universities, govt contractors and govt agencies could get on. It was not publicly available. What was publicly available then was modem Bulletin Board Systems (BBSs). Those had chat forums, localized email and file sharing. If you were lucky and "knew a guy" or a guy who knew a guy, you could get on a networked BBS that exchanged files with other boards around the world via nightly sync or even luckier if you had someone from one of those universities or other running a board that also bridged to ARPAnet. That's where a lot of old usenet content got started. Those were the good ole days of social media. BBS meet and greets were fun. A lot less scary than now, fore sure and for a lot of new and different reasons.

    9. Re: instant access to computers around the world by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Quite. Its amazing how many people today still think the internet = the web. Mention stuff like ftp, gopher, archie or WAIS and you just get blank looks.

      Bah! They glaze over at telephone modem. They would think a BBS was an early Facebook. Of course, they'd be right, but Zuck probably doesn't know about the BBS days, either.

    10. Re: instant access to computers around the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      49 good of 50. imagine how little data that really was. maybe 256kb per section encoded, just a guess. so thats a dozen or so megabytes of data

      of course, that would be most of your total storage back then, not just a portion of your ram

      good times... but I like it better now :)

    11. Re: instant access to computers around the world by deadweight · · Score: 1

      Fun thing was knowing the local BBS Sysops.I could use "mysterious phreaking power" to "break into" someone's session. They never did figure out how I did it LOL ( I was at the BBS console - that's how!)

    12. Re: instant access to computers around the world by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Back in the days when Emacs was said to stand for "Eight megabytes and constantly swapping" (or "calloc-ing still").

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  19. Reason by should_be_linear · · Score: 1

    If we imagine society as noise of randomly colored dots, for example, blue dots can represents people currently connected to Facebook. There are so many blue dots in current society, that highly intelligent person could easily predict this even 20 years ago, right? Well, problem is, this color first appeared couple of years ago, there was no blue color among dots we see *at all*. Breakthrough events that forms society like this comes like explosion, and brings new colors that was never seen before. We can predict and imagine only in colors we know, not in colors we've never seen.

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  20. Sci-Fi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find this statement very ironic:
    "I wrote about this over at TIME.com. 'Back then, a pundit who started talking about gigabytes of storage or high-resolution color screens or instant access to computers around the world or built-in cameras and music players would have been accused of indulging in science fiction.'"

    Especially when you consider, science has a hard time predicting future trends and technologies, yet Science Fiction seems to have been fairly accurate in predicting, if not outright influencing, future technological trends.
    For example: the waterbed, the waldo (as in glove, not Where's Waldo), cell phones, data pads (also called tablets). Even Kubrik's protrayal of space flight was more accurate than any other sci-fi of it's age, and certainly more realistic than what little was being released by the professional scientists.

    If you want to see what is going to be trending in ten or twenty years, check out today's science fiction.

    1. Re:Sci-Fi? by nblender · · Score: 1

      I remember seeing Captain Piccard signing daily status reports on something that I now recognize as a 10" tablet.

      Gene Roddenberry was a time traveller from 2030. He was a washed up historical fiction screen writer so he procured a trip on a black market time machine and came back to the era he loved the most and wrote Star Trek.

    2. Re:Sci-Fi? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Especially when you consider, science has a hard time predicting future trends and technologies, yet Science Fiction seems to have been fairly accurate in predicting, if not outright influencing, future technological trends.

      Certainly, if you cherry pick the hell out of the (tens of?) thousands of "predictions" made across the last century or so... science fiction seems remarkably prescient. In reality, the picture is much bleaker. In reality, science fiction is not much better at predicting the future than a million monkeys pounding away on typewriters.

    3. Re:Sci-Fi? by miller701 · · Score: 1

      Kubrick, brilliant film maker that he was, had AC Clarke backing him up. that's why it's realistic.

  21. *Sigh* the cover was symbolic art by carlhaagen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The cover art was delivering the message of the "wrist-worn/hand-held computer". It was neither joke nor prediction; it was symbolism.

    1. Re:*Sigh* the cover was symbolic art by auric_dude · · Score: 2

      Can it or should it be considered as Prior Art?

  22. yes by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    The article is an illustration of a journalist discovering the fact that as a journalist he knows not the slightest fuck what he is on about when he starts talking about the future of tech. It says nothing else about how the rest of us understand the future of technology though.

    right?

    TFA barely talks about actual technology or issues of "futurism"...

    so much of what everyday people see in the media about tech is utter bullshit...IMHO it measurably costs us $$$

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  23. I think it's quite spot on after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, if we generalize that floppy to "secondary storage" we can observe it's pretty much in line with the physical size of a Micro-SD card (or a nano-SIM, if we wanted to use cloud storage) and while small keyboards have gone from physical buttons to touchscreens, we're still using QWERTY. Even though smartwatches of today might support graphical interfaces, their "killer apps" are mainly text-centric things like "show notifications", "pedometer" and "send template-based SMS".

    So, while certainly meant as a pun back in 1981, I can't help but think of how unnervingly spot on it seems to be.

  24. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Casio did. Well, it was an alphabetic order rather than QWERTY, but they did put it in their organiser line of watches.

    Damn I had one of those watches. Super cool, although I prefer the ones that had games.

  25. Gartner should have Roddenberry's know-how by BillBrains · · Score: 1

    If anyone wants to predict what technology we will be using, would have been using and have been using, then all you need to do is watch the original Captain Kirk series. All of the gadgets and tech used are more or less what we have adopted and are adopting. From the cell phone to the 3d laser printer. Listen to Gene Roddenberry, not Gartner

  26. Ironic and Iconic by Tatarize · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anybody else want a mini-sd card form factored to look like a mini-floppy disk? I sure do. And now since I've mentioned it, you do too.

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    1. Re:Ironic and Iconic by bytesex · · Score: 1

      I guess this is what that moment is called just before somebody makes a million bucks off of a simple idea.

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    2. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I would, while they are at it perhaps they could make a small USB reader that looks like a disk drive too. With a choice of shells being Apple IIe disk drive or the Commodore 64 1541.

    3. Re:Ironic and Iconic by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      LOL ... I've seen CDs which are printed to look like vinyl albums.

      I'm sure someone could just print on the existing ones something which makes it look like a floppy.

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    4. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I would, while they are at it perhaps they could make a small USB reader that looks like a disk drive too. With a choice of shells being Apple IIe disk drive or the Commodore 64 1541.

      If only there were some way to manufacture small pieces of plastic in custom 3-D shapes...

    5. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And surely someone will go an get a patent on it, even though it was so obvious that 100 of us came up with the same idea as soon as we saw the photo (I certainly did)

    6. Re:Ironic and Iconic by gsslay · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd prefer one to look like a C15 audio cassette.

    7. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anybody else want a mini-sd card form factored to look like a mini-floppy disk? I sure do. And now since I've mentioned it, you do too.

      Sorta been done

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/184857717/disk-ii-styled-usb-sd-card-reader

    8. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you mean making a million bucks helping some fool make a pile of plastic things nobody will buy, then sure.

    9. Re:Ironic and Iconic by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Just what slashdot needs, another story about injection moulding.

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  27. Explains? by zhrike · · Score: 2

    "This 1981 BYTE Magazine Cover Explains Why We're So Bad At Tech Predictions"

    No it doesn't. Even if the image was a depiction of a serious prediction (which it was/is not); it "explains" nothing. There is no "why" inherent in the image.

    1. Re:Explains? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this. At best you could punningly say it "illustrates".

      These viralnova-style headlines are so depressing.

  28. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    Noone in their right mind would take a full QWERTY keyboard with keys the size of pin heads literally.

    Obviously. I mean, there are much better input methods for such things, namely Dvorak.

  29. Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by dtmos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I always thought the most unlikely technological development in my lifetime was the handheld GPS device. It would be "most unlikely" because it required tremendous, simultaneous, and largely unforeseen advances in several different technologies, each of which was hard to predict in 1981. The list is at least:

    1. Low power, low voltage, low noise L-band receivers, sensitive enough to be compatible with the weak signal coming from the internal antenna of a handheld device;
    2. Stupendous amounts of digital signal processing, also at low power and low voltage;
    3. Digital map databases of (substantially) every road in the world, accurate to a few meters;
    4. A substantially world-wide, wideband wireless data link to get the digital map into the handheld device in the first place;
    5. Low power, low voltage, high resolution, multicolor flat panel displays;
    6. Gigabytes of low power, low voltage data storage memory; and
    7. High energy density, high power density batteries capable of supplying the whole thing.

    And, perhaps most impressive of all, the manufacturing technology to make all of the above small enough to fit in a handheld device, at a price low enough to sell by the zillions.

    Of the list above, probably only #2 could have been predicted, and then only if one were willing to extrapolate the then-relatively-new Moore's Law by a very large amount. (Recall that Mead and Conway had only written their Introduction to VLSI systems the previous year; until then it was not clear that such complex chips could even be designed on human time scales, let alone built for a profit.)

    The fact that a handheld GPS device is now an anachronism, since the technology is now small enough and low-power enough to be integrated into other handheld devices, like smart phones, pleases me no end.

  30. Users Don't Dream Big Enough by azadrozny · · Score: 2

    From the article:

    We tend to think that new products will be a lot like the ones we know. We shoehorn existing concepts where they don’t belong. Oftentimes, we don’t dream big enough.

    I have found this to be a serious problem for system designers. When gathering requirements we often ask users what they want, or what they need. They then give us narrow response like "a button that does X" or "a screen that shows me Y". This can be valuable input, however these requests are based on their knowledge of what can be designed with "yesterday's" technology. A better question to ask is "what do you do?". I have found that responses to this question (purposefully open ended) give the system designers the freedom to streamline the users job, and tools that will actually make them more productive.

    1. Re:Users Don't Dream Big Enough by zlogic · · Score: 1

      This sounds almost like Microsoft's reasoning for Windows 8/Metro:
      - Users are dumb and want trivial things like a better Windows 7
      - Most people use computers for Office, music, video playback and browsing the internet
      - We should develop technology that is easier to use and runs on portable devices to better compete with Apple and Google
      - We're Microsoft after all, let's do really innovative stuff like unifying the phone, tablet and desktop interfaces! Instead of incremental upgrades we'll bet the company on a futuristic solution with an app store, brand-new touch-friendly interface and a unique graphics design. This will go into history as the most innovative move of the decade and show these pricks at Apple and Google that Microsoft is just as good if not better.

    2. Re:Users Don't Dream Big Enough by azadrozny · · Score: 1

      It is not an easy technique to use, nor is it appropriate to use it in all circumstances. It requires a lot of focused study, discipline, and good intuition, to make sure you are bringing the correct technologies/features to bear. A fail in the case of Win 8, but success in the case of iPhone.

  31. The glory days of computers by Flytrap · · Score: 2

    Paging through that magazine reminded me of why I got into computer engineering to begin with... I remember looking forward to each magazine, for the various programming quickies... I remember waiting for my first PCB etching kit so that I could design my own circuit boards...

    Sigh.

    When men were real men and computer engineers were real engineers.

    1. Re:The glory days of computers by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Back when programming magazines were useful, unlike the fluffy tripe that is passed off as a computer magazine today.

      Even the linux magazines today are worthless for learning from.

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    2. Re:The glory days of computers by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Back when programming magazines were useful, unlike the fluffy tripe that is passed off as a computer magazine today.

      Even the linux magazines today are worthless for learning from.

      Could it be deliberate? They don't want to publish something useful (I thought this is what magazines are for unless they are simply ad rags nowadays or teasers for the "good stuff") i.e. like this person argues "No, You Can't Pick My Brain. It Costs Too Much" http://www.forbes.com/sites/wo...

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  32. Technology isn't just computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a look at a 747 in 1981, and look at one now. Heck, look at a 747 from 1969. Some things just can't change all that much.

  33. and yet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here we are still running a Unix derivative and processors dereived from the instruction set on the first IBM PC. A lot of linear extensions still exist, but the commercialization of things link LCD screens and cellular radio make more possible.

    For me, watching the development of the microprocessor has been the most interesting - the amout of processing power I can through at a problem is boggling.

  34. Car Shapes by nukenerd · · Score: 1

    One thing that sticks in my mind from when I was a child was artists' impressions of "The Car of the Future". They had shapes like half-sucked wine-gums - fug-ugly I thought.

    That has come true.

  35. That issue is pretty notable for: by RealGene · · Score: 2

    1. Introduction of the Osborne I portable.
    2. Introduction of the Sony 3.5" floppy disk (875K!).

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  36. Even Heinlein got it wrong by John+Jorsett · · Score: 2

    I remember reading one of Robert Heinlein's novels in which a character (Slipstick Libby, perhaps) was on a rocket ship and dealing with a computer. Via punch cards.

  37. The smartwatch is not a new idea .. by DTentilhao · · Score: 1

    "First, it reminds us that the smartwatch is not a new idea. Even in 1981, tech companies had been trying to build them for awhile:"

    `Consider the wrist radio introduced in Tracy on January 13, 1946. No other single aspect of Dick Tracy has received more press and coverage in newspaper and magazine articles than the wrist radio' - "Dick Tracy and American Culture: Morality and Mythology, Text and Context" by Garyn G. Roberts

  38. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Fine, but a 747 flying across the Atlantic still takes 6 hours and burns 20000 gallons of kerosene. Just like in 1981. OK, so maybe it burns a bit less fuel. What annoys me no end are people who then think that all technologies progress at the same rate. The GPS receiver deals in information, something that theoretically doesn't take that much energy at all. The last 30 years have been about getting our manufacturing technology to scale down far enough.

    But things like moving mass? There's nowhere to go. We're there already.

    No one's colonizing Mars because we got better at making smaller bits.

    I wonder what would happen if we looked at space predictions from 1981? Oh all of a sudden they're not "bad", they're rigorous engineering proposals that must be followed to the letter for the benefit of the species. Hilarious.

    http://www.thespacereview.com/...

    Oh no, suddenly we're no longer bad at making predictions! Uuuhh, it's the evil gubment, it's the species, it's because of this or that! It's never that it simply makes no sense. Weird.

  39. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by m00sh · · Score: 1

    I always thought the most unlikely technological development in my lifetime was the handheld GPS device. It would be "most unlikely" because it required tremendous, simultaneous, and largely unforeseen advances in several different technologies, each of which was hard to predict in 1981.

    All of these are not necessary for GPS. Most people use GPS in their cars and low voltage, low power stuff doesn't matter there. Also, gigabytes of data also doesn't matter because you could have city-wide maps only that you could swap in and out. There have always been maps of every road and digitizing it isn't that big a deal.

  40. iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's kind of how I feel about the "keyboard" on the iPhone.

  41. powerpoint schematics by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

    Looks like they already had Powerpoint in '81, judging from the schema-art in the advertisements :-)

  42. Explanation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cover is not an explanation. It's an example of poor prediction. Fuck, people, these words matter. How the hell can you communicate if the words you use don't mean what you want to say?

    1. Re:Explanation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a prediction either, Mr "words matter". It's just cover art, a symbol.

  43. The Future by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    It looks like that watch might be running MS/TRES

  44. Not bad actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you take into account the sd and micro sd cards we use in our devices, the fact that keyboards are there (just on the screen) then this actually isn't that far off the mark.

    I, for one, am impressed that they were able to predicte so closely 30 years into the future.

  45. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Handheld GPS didn't have Gigabytes of memory or digital maps of the whole world accurate to a few meters when they came out. Or color screens or wireless networking. The first Garmin handheld I saw had 8MB of NVRAM, a monochrome screen, and retailed for over $1000.

    I remember thinking the future of handhelds would only get better back when PocketPC and Palm were competing and they both took CF cards with all manner of expansion devices, including GPS and cameras. Well, CPUs and screens got better, OS not as much, and the expandability and rich peripheral set evaporated in favor of fashionable but functionally irrelevant thinness.

    Today the IC technology exists to make smartphones and tablets with RADAR, LIDAR, SDR, audio interfaces, and all manner of other awesome addons, but smartphones did away with the expandability that PDAs had. They could make tablets slightly thicker and equip them with Express-card slots, but competition has been virtually eliminated from consumer electronics, not from lack of companies, but from lack of intellectual competitiveness. Every company does the same exact thing, where I can only speculate on whether it is collusion or just a lack of confidence to put something different out on the market. Laptop screens and keyboards are another example, everyone on the market ships 16:9 screens* and chicklet keyboards. There is market competition, but no intellectual competition.

    Hmm, market competition, intellectual collusion. And whenever someone does put something new out there, some jerkoff patent troll shuts it down so fast, it never sees the light of day.

    * I don't know if they still have them in America, but imagine if every paper notebook company decided that exactly one size of notebook was needed, or you couldn't buy Letter, Legal, A4, B4, etc paper, but had just one size to "choose" from.

  46. Progress is random, prediction: impossible by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    We are bad at predicting the future because it cannot be predicted.

    The gadgets that we think about as "the future" (actually: only the future of technology - the broad-brush future of the planet is vert easy to predict. We know how high the population will grow, when the max. will be reached and where all those people will live and when they will die. Omitting disasters (natural or man-made), wars and pestilence our future is easy to map) are totally subject to random decisions: which standard will be adopted, which advertisements will be used (and therefore the success or otherwise of an appliance), which bugs will be fixed and which ignored - mking the difference between choosing product "A" or product "B" as the next big thing.

    Since the next generation of gadgets is built on the one before, think video games: an easily described lineage - right back to "pong" or PCs, the random decisions made every couple of years compound those made before.

    While those paths are easy to see in hindsight, guessing (and it IS only guesses, no talent required) which decisions will lead to the next generation of successful gadgets and form-factors is not possible.

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  47. Science Fiction by smpoole7 · · Score: 1

    Those of us who love science fiction are used to this. It's fun to go back and read what some of the authors in the 1950's thought the future would look like. My personal favorite is that no thought it given to miniaturization; everything still uses tubes. Exotic tubes with magical abilities (like the power tubes in the Venus Equilateral series), but still vacuum tubes with filaments.

    When it comes to computers, it's just as hit and miss. The way some authors handle artificial intelligence is by insisting that it won't happen. (David Weber, to name one -- in his books, the idea is that any true AI would quickly go insane.)

    (But then, poor David has other concerns: in the Honor Harrington series, one key to Manticore's military superiority is the fact that they've harnessed "gravity waves" for faster-than-light communications ... and the physicists have long since determined that gravity propagates no faster than the speed of light.) :)

    Likewise when I see anyone in a story "pressing a button" (even if it's a virtual button). We're already on the brink of direct neural interfaces. You think it, things happen. That's the future. But to be fair to these authors, it's hard to see what's coming in 10 years.

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  48. Slashdot took me on a Wikipedia-like adventure by Balthisar · · Score: 1

    It's seldom that Slashdot takes me on a Wikipedia-like adventure. But once I was there and realized that archive.org is more than a Wayback Machine, I started looking up issues of RUN magazine (C=64 and C=128 centric magazine of the time). I was determined not to stop until I found the two "Magic" articles that they published for me. Issue 65 and Issue 69, long lost in the real world, and now added to my digital trophy case.

    I can't believe I was programming 8502 assembly language back then and haven't so much as learned a damned thing about Java these days.

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  49. The Man Who Fell To Earth by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

    In the 1976 film of the book, Thomas Newton invents an instant camera that allows you to see the pictures you've just shot immediately... by opening the back of the camera and pulling out the 36-image film strip. I guess the true future of instant cameras was hard to predict, even though the necessary technology was already in existence.

  50. CA53W with antenna and bigger screen by tepples · · Score: 1

    it would also have been hard to represent an RF data connection replacing physical data transfers

    A telescoping antenna analogous to those on portable radios would have sufficed for that. For a keyboard, I would have probably used the 4x4 matrix of my Casio calculator watch.

  51. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by sh00z · · Score: 1

    Actually, to me, most impressive of all was the fact that something *in my lifetime* actually has to account for both special and general relativity. I remember studying them in my college sophomore physics class and having the standard student complaint, "When am I ever going to need to use THIS?" (By the way Mrs Morton, I still have not diagrammed a sentence in real life).

  52. April fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was intended as a joke. The "In This Issue" section on page 4 reminds the reader of the issue's proximity to April 1.

  53. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, I see the problem, you missed that he was talking about handheld GPS. Easy to do since he only mentioned it in the title and the first sentence you quoted. It is true that you only need either 4 (world-wide wireless network) or 6 (gigabytes of storage).

  54. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    I always thought the most unlikely technological development in my lifetime was the handheld GPS device. It would be "most unlikely" because it required tremendous, simultaneous, and largely unforeseen advances in several different technologies, each of which was hard to predict in 1981.

    Yes... and no. In 1981, the pieces and precursors of pretty much everything on your list was already in place. Very little of it was available down at Radio Shack, granted, but much of it was already in use (at a minimum) by the military.

  55. Author is stupid? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    " why the future of technology so often bears so little resemblance to anyone's predictions"

    It seems to me that most predictions were dead on accurate. I have a freaking Star Trek tablet that the captain used for data and logging, Giant display screen with the world on it in every home, communicate around the globe over light or via magical robots in the sky( satellites) , freaking dick tracy watches have existed for 3 years now (search ebay for "gsm watch") etc... Cars are about to drive themselves, Airplanes have flown themselves for decades. etc....

    I'm thinking the author has zero clue as to what he is talking about in tech let alone predictions that were made in the past and how dead on accurate they were.

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    1. Re:Author is stupid? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      One William Gibson interview asked about his "predictions", and I recall his view was that some people liked some of his ideas and made things resembling them instead of him actually predicting anything. I'd say some of the Star Trek stuff came about the same way, although the tablet also resembles the slates used in schools a long time back.

    2. Re:Author is stupid? by swillden · · Score: 1

      If you can go back over the output of thousands of creative writers and cherrypick the predictions that vaguely resemble what we have today, of course you can find lots of matches. However, you will find even more failures. Even the successes you mention aren't really all that close... for example the "Star Trek tablet": yes, Star Trek portrayed tablet devices with electronic display screens which accepted stylus input, but look at how different -- and inferior! -- those are to what we have.

      As far as I can tell in Star Trek the tablets were used only as a slightly-improved version of the clipboard. The yeoman would bring one over to the captain for him to look at and sign off on some forms, for example. Why? Why not just display the information on the captain's own tablet? And why are the tablets only used for display and entry of text? Why does Spock have to walk over to his station to pull up readings on the unknown being's energy emissions, rather than just flicking it onto his tablet, or the captain's? Our tablets are general-purpose display and input devices -- with audio and video I/O -- and powerful network-connected computers in their own right. They're also full of sensors: GPS, magnetic compass, barometric altimeter, gyro, accelerometer, camera, not to mention all of the radios. They look more like the Star Trek tricorder rather than the tablet.

      Really, the only thing Star Trek tablets have in common with today's tablet computers is the form factor... and even that isn't all that similar, since they were over an inch thick and had much smaller screens relative to their area. Further, the form factor is an extremely obvious one, since clipboards have been around since the late 19th century, and people have likely been using something similar to tally on for millennia.

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    3. Re:Author is stupid? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking the author has zero clue as to what he is talking about in tech

      It said right in the summary that he wrote this for TIME magazine. Don't pretend like you didn't get fair warning!

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    4. Re:Author is stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though notably, we have fallen dramatically behind the predictions of the original Star Trek. Didn't Khan the genetically-engineered superman leave the earth in the 1990s on his interstellar ship in suspended animation?

      We have no idea how to do anything even remotely like any of those things.

  56. Typing needle on my DS by tepples · · Score: 1

    My Nintendo DS came with a typing needle. So did my Newton MessagePad 2000.

    1. Re:Typing needle on my DS by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      I used Needle to describe something thinner than a stylus. :(

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  57. Two presses per letter by tepples · · Score: 1

    Some people might think "firstpost.com" is a troll site like "hotgrits.org" or anything in the .cx top-level domain. So let me explain this input method in my own words. It works in much the same way that activating tiny hyperlinks in the Chrome browser for Android works. Tap once in the vicinity of the key you want to press, and it'll zoom in on an area of the keyboard centered on where you pressed. Tap again to actually enter a letter.

  58. That thing looks exactly like my Blackberry. by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    Sure my blackberry is a LITTLE bit larger. But it has the keyboard. And the tiny floppy disk looks a lot like the sim card we slip into the back.

    This picture is in my opinion pretty darn CLOSE to what we really ended up having.

    Oh, the styling is bad - the keyboard is unusable. But it looks reasonable, not stupid.

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  59. This was never meant as a prediction by Linzer · · Score: 1

    It gets clearer if you flip a couple pages of the magazine and read the "In this issue" box:

    Before you write to comment on our cover's "unusual" design approach (created by artist Robert Tinney), keep in mind the proximity of April 1st.

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  60. $2.50? That was like 3 weeks pay back then. by AnontheDestroyer · · Score: 1

    Either buy a house, or a BYTE magazine, I guess.

  61. You are taking it seriously instead of an analogy? by dbIII · · Score: 1

    This entire article is a "whoosh". A drawing designed to make people think about a computer on your wrist (which this one does very well) is about conveying an idea and not a blueprint for a real object.

  62. Connections...forward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Watch the show "Connections" some time. If you're not familiar with it (and you call yourself a Geek?) it takes a historical view of how we got from there (the invention of stirrups) to here (telecommunications). Take that kind of historical perspective and then try to extrapolate forward from it. Don't forget to figure in the technological growth curve, socio-economic factors, human psychology, a hundred other things that I don't feel like compiling a list of right now...oh yeah...and a big, healthy dose of random chance (think The Mule in Asimov's Foundation Trilogy). If you get better than 5% accuracy on a 25 year prediction I'll be very surprised.

    1. Re:Connections...forward by markhb · · Score: 1

      Watch the show "Connections" some time. If you're not familiar with it (and you call yourself a Geek?) it takes a historical view of how we got from there (the invention of stirrups) to here (telecommunications). Take that kind of historical perspective and then try to extrapolate forward from it. Don't forget to figure in the technological growth curve, socio-economic factors, human psychology, a hundred other things that I don't feel like compiling a list of right now...oh yeah...and a big, healthy dose of random chance (think The Mule in Asimov's Foundation Trilogy). If you get better than 5% accuracy on a 25 year prediction I'll be very surprised.

      Connections, indeed. Should be required viewing before being allowed to have an account on /.

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    2. Re:Connections...forward by Ozeroc · · Score: 1

      Connections is a great series. Connections II and III were good too except for going to 1/2 hour format. The Day the Universe Changed is also great.

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  63. M$ is still around, too by mrflash818 · · Score: 1

    M$ is still around, so I failed on that prediction *rueful sigh*

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  64. Not too far off by slapout · · Score: 1

    The keyboard might be a little off, but the floppy disk could easily be a micro SD card.

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  65. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

    much of it was already in use (at a minimum) by the military.

    I think you're missing the point. Sure the army may have had the precursors to Handheld GPS since the first satellites were launched in the 70's. But in 1981, the thought of billions of people having access to it in their pocket on a device that gets thrown away every 2 years was probably about as unfathomable as people commuting by SR-71 blackbird (built a decade before "The" GPS was conceived).

  66. Re:That micro-floppy (1) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you, Captain Caveman.

  67. The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by LQ · · Score: 1

    Heinlein's 1966 classic The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is wonderful and visionary on many levels but still tripped over some contemporary assumptions. Like one big computer ran everything, including the phone system. It could synthesize audio but it had to jump through fancy hoops to do video. I guess we all are stuck in our own time.

    1. Re:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by mpe · · Score: 1

      Heinlein's 1966 classic The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is wonderful and visionary on many levels but still tripped over some contemporary assumptions. Like one big computer ran everything, including the phone system. It could synthesize audio but it had to jump through fancy hoops to do video.

      The other assumption made here was that it wasn't too difficult to create a functional AI. Something which modern authors don't tend to consider as easy as producing video good enough to fool people.

    2. Re:The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That one big computer running everything was explained in the story as not being good practice, but the Authority always found it a bit cheaper to just add to the existing mainframe. There's no indication that AI is easy, just that it happens once in an unusually large and connected computer, and when that computer has its connections cut and then fixed the AI is gone.

      Things like the supposed difficulty in producing video and the need for Man to put in additional voice circuitry so Mike could use the phone are a bit jarring by modern standards.

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  68. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by multimediavt · · Score: 1

    FTFA:

    "it's also a smart visual explanation of why the future of technology so often bears so little resemblance to anyone's predictions"

    No, it's not an explanation at all. It was intended as a metaphor for miniaturization of electronics. Noone in their right mind would take a full QWERTY keyboard with keys the size of pin heads literally.

    Except for the pinheads!

  69. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    That's the OP's point - you're missing my point, which is that it's not really so unfathomable at all. By 1981, we'd already in less than a decade gone from pocket calculators being expensive rarities to being practically given away in breakfast cereal. LORAN was already widely available in a compact box. Etc... etc... By 1981, the accelerating pace of technology was already clearly visible to anyone who was looking. (Which I was at the time.)

    What I missed/didn't grasp the full import of is that between 1981 (the year of my high school graduation) and 1991 (the year of Desert Shield/Storm) GPS went from being a highly classified piece of military hardware to a handheld commercial unit. There were actually more units in the civilian world than in the Army. (Folks were actually buying handheld GPS units at sporting goods stores and sending them to soldiers in the field because there was a shortage of officially available and issued GPS units!) But given the rapid advance of IC's into the civilian/commercial world, I shouldn't have been surprised at all. (OTOH, the full story of the DOD's role in developing IC's wasn't fully known/grasped at the time.)

  70. We're not. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    We never have. We probably never will.

    http://overpopulationisamyth.c...

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  71. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by InsectOverlord · · Score: 1

    They had numeric keypads which allowed you to enter text by pressing the buttons repeatedly or in a specific input mode, similar to dumbphones. They had organisers with full-blown keyboards, but those weren't watches.

  72. Clearly not the future... by singularity · · Score: 1

    From page 212:

    Credit Cards With Intelligence? The Battelle Memorial Institute is studying the feasibility of a credit card with a built-in micro-processor. Such a card has already been developed in Europe, and will soon be tested. It is expected that intelligent credit cards will provide added security without requiring large computer networks.

    Everyone who shopped at Target last fall saw how well that was implemented here in the U.S.

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  73. We had "smart" watches in 1977 by stox · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Tinney's image was a logical evolution from this.

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  74. Re:Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    USB OTG not good enough? Bluetooth not good enough?

    The problem with expansion, especially using ExpressCard, is that there's a horrendous chicken/egg problem. very few express card peripherals exist, thus few express card slots are being included in modern machines.

    It has nothing to do with intellectual competition. It's just that, most people's wants are served on board. Expansion's existed but as time has gone on, the need for PC Card and ExpressCard has gone away thanks to USB.

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  75. bad at predicting the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung Gear.

  76. Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was old as you are now back then!

    Kinda brings you back in time.

    The ads of companies so young, many of which didn't survive... a Microsoft ad of a good product (softcard), who knew what they would become? To someone who talked about the IBM PC, it's interesting to notice there are no ads about PC clones or add-ons or whatever. It simply wasn't yet relevant...

    Lots of Pascal ads -- didn't see a Turbo Pascal one, though -- and a dBase II one.

    Simpler times with better magazines (300+ pages!).

    I didn't even dream about the internet back then... look how wondrous things we have today...

  77. Actually, my SF from then was pretty accurate by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    The Science Fiction stories I wrote back then are fairly correct in terms of what 2020 would look like.

    I had the planet suffering from technological disasters that had people working as serfs to heartless corporations, and never-ending war machines, with a planet that was heating up so much that plans to colonize Antarctica were underway.

    My only incorrect guess was that fusion power would exist for slow multi-generation interplanetary spaceships sent to the moons of Jupiter.

    Fusion is always 20 years in the future. Has been since I was born. Still is today.

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    1. Re:Actually, my SF from then was pretty accurate by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      oh, and we did have the Internet back then, I was using ARPA*NET at Simon Fraser University and the University of British Columbia. We had 110 baud modems and I think UBC had 300 baud.

      So the Internet did exist, at least for those of us in Computer Science, Math, and Science.

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  78. And this is where the author misses the mark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But most of all, the Tinney watch is a wonderful visual explanation of why human beings–most of us, anyhow–aren’t very good at predicting the future of technology. We tend to think that new products will be a lot like the ones we know. We shoehorn existing concepts where they don’t belong. Oftentimes, we don’t dream big enough."

    I realize the Tinney watch was more of a joke than a prediction but even it is a good example of why the author of the article is completely wrong with the above statement. Take the tiny floppy disk. At the time, in 1981, everyone reading byte knew what a floppy disk was...it was a storage medium. What if Tinney had drawn something more akin to today's SD cards? No one would have know what it was supposed to be and no one would have understood it unless Tinney explained it to them. Tinney, through the tiney floppy disk, was showing a prediction of storage getting smaller (really small compared to what was available at the time) without confusing the issue by trying to portray that smaller storage medium as something no one would understand. The author is taking the predictions too literally. Rather than trying to see what is being predicted (smaller storage medium) he is calling the prediction wrong because it didn't produce exactly what was portrayed.

  79. OTOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just 4 months later this issue came out. Smalltalk, originally created at Xerox' PARC facility, made its way into Objective-C and NextStep and now Objective-C is used in mac and iOS apps. Seems they were pretty much spot on with this one.

  80. It was a joke. by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    It was not supposed to be a real watch. It was a joke. A spoof. A representation. It's funny anyone would think that cover was representing a real prediction. Crimminy.

  81. Stagnation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Back then, a pundit who started talking about gigabytes of storage or high-resolution color screens or instant access to computers around the world or built-in cameras and music players would have been accused of indulging in science fiction. "

    Sure, but those technologies which do not involve glowing pixels have progressed much slower, if at all.

  82. It was an actual recognisable computer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An Intertec Superbrain, more or less.

    2(!) Z80 processors at 4MHz, 64Kb RAM, 2 8" floppies, ran CP/M.

    I had a ZX80 back then, A Superbrain (or something very similar) WAS the future, as far as I was concerned!

    The BYTE cover wasn't intended as literal prophecy, just eyecatching comment on the possibilities of future increases in computing power.

  83. Love Room? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Not because it hates us, just for liebensraum.
    Strong AI will kill everyone because it wants a Love room ?

    The future certainlz is weird!

  84. Re:"it's also a smart visual explanation of why... by Cruciform · · Score: 1

    I had a watch with a full scientific calculator on it when I was a kid. My fingers were small enough to press the buttons, but an adult likely would have needed a pencil lead to push the buttons.
    It died when we were having squirtgun fights and I dunked my arm in a bucket and forgot I was wearing the watch :(
    I loved that watch.

  85. memories by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    When I was a boy...

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  86. Re: Most unlikely technology in 1981: Handheld GPS by Jonathan_S · · Score: 1

    always thought the most unlikely technological development in my lifetime was the handheld GPS device. It would be "most unlikely" because it required tremendous, simultaneous, and largely unforeseen advances in several different technologies, each of which was hard to predict in 1981. The list is at least:

    1. Low power, low voltage, low noise L-band receivers, sensitive enough to be compatible with the weak signal coming from the internal antenna of a handheld device;
    2. Stupendous amounts of digital signal processing, also at low power and low voltage;
    3. Digital map databases of (substantially) every road in the world, accurate to a few meters;
    4. A substantially world-wide, wideband wireless data link to get the digital map into the handheld device in the first place;
    5. Low power, low voltage, high resolution, multicolor flat panel displays;
    6. Gigabytes of low power, low voltage data storage memory; and
    7. High energy density, high power density batteries capable of supplying the whole thing.

    And, perhaps most impressive of all, the manufacturing technology to make all of the above small enough to fit in a handheld device, at a price low enough to sell by the zillions.

    Of the list above, probably only #2 could have been predicted, and then only if one were willing to extrapolate the then-relatively-new Moore's Law by a very large amount. (Recall that Mead and Conway had only written their Introduction to VLSI systems the previous year; until then it was not clear that such complex chips could even be designed on human time scales, let alone built for a profit.)

    The fact that a handheld GPS device is now an anachronism, since the technology is now small enough and low-power enough to be integrated into other handheld devices, like smart phones, pleases me no end.

    Add to that list an item 0:
    That a satellite cluster deigned, paid for, and deployed for military use would be freely available for civilian use. (President Regan's decision to allow that, in the wake of the Korean Air flight 007 wasn't made until 1983 and the satellites weren't launched until 1989).

    Without the military necessity and funding behind it there's basically no chance that the GPS satellites would have been deployed, and without Regan's decision there's no reason they would necessarily have supported unencrypted civilian use.

    But yeah, I like your unlikely technology prediction. Although certainly much less capable handheld GPS units existed long before the map based raod navigation one's you were primarily referring to.

  87. ADD Generation by Joviex · · Score: 1

    Yeah, thats right, everything about how we predict anything boils down to one shitty cover from 33 years ago. Guess it is time to give up.

  88. Astoundingly Accurate Prediction! by khelms · · Score: 1

    That's the new iWatch we've been hearing about!

  89. Bigger, faster, cheaper, or smaller by siriuskase · · Score: 1

    People are much better at thinking of what we already have and making it better in quantifiable directions. That is what that Byte cover is showing, what we already had, just smaller. So called "disruptive" changes, where we go off in a new direction, is much harder to predict, but when it's done, we get the "why didn't someone think of this already" sort of talk. So many companies are focused on optimizing what we already have instead of playing with ideas without a ROI that is obvious to the people controlling the money. That's why I think technology companies should be managed by engineers and people who read a lot of sci fi.

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  90. Apple Won With User-Focus, rather than features by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 1

    Apple's win with the iPhone wasn't the concept of "smartphone", but the concept of "humanist UI design".

    The idea of scrolling, zooming, pointing and manipulating objects as if they were paper on a roll, or physical buttons eschewed the previous generation of phones which used a stylus and scroll bars down the side of the window.

    It's this humanist user element that represents the revolution if the iPhone, rather than the anything of the "smart" features, which people rightly point out were rather underwhelming when it was released.

    That might be overstating one thing, however. The one other innovation was the integration of a full Safari rendering engine, as it was far better than comparable phones at the time. Other vendors assumed that the UI would be too clunky to display full pages on a small screen. Apple, again, worked on the UI and made it work.

  91. Bad punch line to the joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whether the answer is "Is it PC compatible?" or "Is it IBM compatible?" with those spec's it would easily run an emulator to provide any desired compatibility (hardware or software wise, who cares).

    It is this kind of limited thinking that often causes predictions to be way of the mark!