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ISIS Threatens Life of Twitter Founder After Thousands of Account Suspensions
Patrick O'Neill writes After a wave of account bannings that marks Twitter's most aggressive move ever against ISIS, new images circulated from militants shows founder Jack Dorsey in crosshairs with the caption "Twitter, you started this war." The famously tech-savy ISIS has met a number of defeats on American-built social media recently with sites like Twitter and YouTube banning the group's efforts in unprecedented numbers.
wonder if this is why YouTube never blocked or removed ISIS' videos.
If they would carry out their threat, would Obama wake up and realize that ISIS has one goal, and if they aren't stopped now, you'll be fighting them in your streets someday?
Probably not. His head is too far up Mohammed's ass to see the real world.
Isis has access to Photoshop.
What horrors can they inflict with that?
Archer is an idiot and ODIN is way better than ISIS.
He says they just need a job, but a majority had jobs before becoming radicalized. They often have college too. So to come out and say it's not faith based, when clearly they tie everything to their perverted version of Islam, either means he thinks we are not paying attention, or he's not.
Some stuff should be taken with a lot of salt. Jack Dorsey and most adults with some capacity of thinking wouldn't take this threat that seriously. ISIS is full of retarded youngsters who for some idiotic reason might be thinking that twitter "started" a "war" with them, if the news are true. But no one would believe that these youngsters could or ISIS themselves would waste time and money on this. They can't win or gain anything by this.
That said it doesn't mean that Jack Dorsey isn't in danger because some random lunatic now got another reason to kill off someone for whatever lunatic purpose. But that has always been the case, and always is for people that are more known than others. I'm sure Jack Dorsey as all rich and known people have appropriate security.
It's time to start seeing things a little bit more reasonable, especially when dealing with unreasonable people. I'd expect more of slashdot crowd than the "Daily Mail" one.
How will I avoid being struck by this online terror, forced to watch videos by these bullies? I am shaking in my........ oh wait, *click*
Stop being a bunch of PIG DICKS and we'll stop hating you.
Love,
The Sane Part of The World
Put "beheading" in the list of "against EULA" policies. Reopen the accounts. Play with the tweets to sow disorder in their ranks. If ISIS were "famously tech-savy" they could communicate without Twitter.
While I might disagree with the tactics and think murder is wrong regardless of who is committing it (ie the USA, ISIS, Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, George Bush, Obama, etc) I can't accept censorship. No matter how horrible the message is or how deprived the crime pictured is we need these freedoms to express ourselves free of oppression. Anything short of this and we are no better than those are attacking.
The reason for the short term memory is that for the average voter the last two wars cost them personally _nothing_ and were if anything entertainment. Now if the president came out and said we are going to mobilize again to fight ISIS and a new 2015 tax of $200/person will be levied to pay for the war you would see a change of heart in minute.
We're all in ISIS' gunsights. It's just a question of who's first
Only a thousand? There should be a thousand A DAY.
...and not one has said that killing the founder of Twitter is a good idea!?
Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur...
"Force shits upon Reason's back." - Poor Richard's Almanac
I'd point out that you are almost certainly a chicken-hawk too, but that would be an insult to poultry.
At what point to you actually think that they would appreciate us invading their country and killing their citizens by the tens of thousands based on a lie?
The irony of this is so sad.
Attacking people who believe in free press and then threatening those that deny it to you on their own platform makes me both sad and happy at the same time.
What a confused, sad group of people.
There are more than 100 Twitter like networks all over the world. And there are about 70 or more YouTube networks some of them older than YouTube, just a small list of them can be found on Wikipedia, the biggest being in China, the second biggest is in Russia, and then you have YouTube and the Arab network equivalent to YouTube. The "ISIS" banning story is nonsense it is just meant for isolated social network users as in Twitter, and YouTube, I think they call it the wall around the Internet, is for people who do not use the real Internet www. Isolated Internet originally existed with AOL, which I believe is virtually dead now. For anybody who really users the Internet, understands exactly what I am saying. The killings of all those who have had their head chopped off are on the ISIS networks. If you speak to any of these people face-to-face the first thing they want to do is to show you pictures of killings which they have on their mobile phones. The Pakistanis laugh about it "you have got to be a man to look at this gruesome killing" is usually what they say when they are amongst a group of their own. The Twitter, story is literally nonsense.. The NSA = YouTube and Twitter, only wished they were on their Twitter network so they could monitor them. Those who don't know what I'm saying I don't care. Those who know what I'm saying you know what I mean ZzZzZzZz.
Amusing news but I struggle to give a fuck. Honest. Next story please.
Discuss.
Is it good to cut off access to the modern equivalent of the public square just because we don't like what is being said? Our ideas are better; must we fear, and attempt to silence, the toxic ideas we do not agree with? Which toxic ideas should we silence next?
Is it a victory to beat them by cutting off their ability to speak? How is this different from cutting off Mega's cashflow via PayPal and the credit cards?
Stop-Prism.org: Opt Out of Surveillance
Should I take it as an unflattering reflection of the true strength of The Caliphate(tm) that it is being actively butthurt about having its twitter privileges revoked? That's the sort of thing that is pretty pathetic among individuals, much less would-be nation states allegedly arranged allong deity-ordained lines.
So Twitter has made a choice and choose to be a US propaganda channel? Do they ban all those repoblican warmongsters too, who I consider far more dangerous for this plannet than some fanatics in the middle east? Or can they just continue to use their free speech?
If you publicly choose sides, don't be surprised when it has consequences.
yeah, that will maybe piss everyone off, but still not enable ISIS to spread their terror messages.
Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
We can counter their claims with arguments.
Religion is not a valid argument for anything.
Sadly though many westerners also depend on religion, so they don't make that argument.
So instead: oppression.
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
We hate you and want to kill you. And if you don't let us use your things we will threaten to kill you even harder. They have the logic of a whiny three year old..
Terrorism builds on fear, but when one leaves out emotion and rationally looks at numbers, daily traffic is still far deadlier than these nincompoops. So any fear built has to be irrational for terrorism to work. Without fear, they have no power. Without media attention, they'd likely go mostly unnoticed. Social media are media too, but things aren't working their way there due to the terms and conditions (what a bummer!) ... hence the death threats. Which made the news. Aaaand presto! They got what they wanted.
You have "the most virtuous man in the city" engaging in incest and offering up his daughters (underage by today's remit) for gang rape.
And don't give me "That's in the OT, we don't believe THAT!", because without the OT, there's no God and no Original Sin for Jesus Christ to die on the cross for that requires me to believe in him or not get into heaven.
A historical aside: it was common in Europe for kings and princes to get betrothed to girls who are still toddlers, get married at 9 or a little later so that in three years, if they're still wanted and the political agreement working (it was usually political marriages), they would consumate the marriage and it would become un-nullable when puberty hit, if not, then the marriage would not have been consummated, the girl still a virgin, and nobody has been given unavoidable insult requiring war.
More recently, USA purchased and trafficked in underage boys for the sex industry in the Middle East to keep local warlords happy. You can't go decrying the warlords buggering little boys when you're the one supplying.
Now's the time for ISIS to launch their own TerrorTwitter© service. They can charge a subscription for the use of the service :)
Maybe the USA should stop sending weapons to ISIS.
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
This time it's different though.
Because of the Arab Spring, Western Muslims started to be more engaged around freedom in the Arab countries.
The civil war in Syria (where at first freedom fighters started fighting against the Assad government) succeeded in actually engaging young and influenceable Western Muslims on the field who struggled with their mixed Western and Muslim identity.
ISIS was very successful in utilizing that momentum to draw more young Western Muslims into their ranks later on and many tens of thousands European young muslims (many of them under-age) are now fighting with ISIS.
This is very worrisome because these can get back into Europe since they have passports and under the Visa-Waiver program could just board a plane to the US for example.
In that sense, this is now a global conflict. It's not just some tribes fighting against each other and the US intervening to keep control of the oil. It's an exodus of young people who are getting brainwashed and are ticking time-bombs when/if they get back to their actual Western home country.
You'll find that the people you want to kill aren't as docile as we were in the 1930s.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Nothing like censorship.
I would imagine that he can afford some pretty bad ass security. Maybe attacking him can help thin their ranks a bit.
The guy does have a point.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
ISIS just needs a little minding. Waves of drone attacks like starlings in migration ought to keep them dodging instead of slicing.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Unless you have an enemy with obvious logistical targets, airstrikes are pretty useless. Great, you blew up a jeep with a machine gun on it. The cost of your bomb plus the flight time of the drone is probably more than the jeep was worth. Oh, by the way, which side was that jeep on? With intermingled and fluid borders, and little direct intelligence, it's kind of hard to be sure...
Anyway, as others have pointed out, all US intervention has accomplished since 9/11 (and before, but that's a different discussion) is to make bad situations even worse. What's the saying? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result". US interventions are not working. It's time for the US to mind it's own business, and let the Middle East sort itself out.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
Dear ISIS:
May I suggest a novel approach to your otherwise doomed venture into society building.
Instead of threatening the life of Twitter's founder, why not do something productive and BUILD an equivalent competing service which you can use without the threat of having your accounts suspended. I would suggest the name iSitter (it kinda rhymes with ISIS, but Apple may have issues with it).
Otherwise, sit down and shut up, and let the grown-ups discuss.
I think I may have the solution to all of this, with one quick stroke: Build a wall surrounding the entire USA. I would suggest something that would be permanently manned and would stretch out into the sea as manned outposts (think militarized oil rigs). Anyone coming in via land or sea would have to go through strict immigration (cavity search please).
The sheer scale of the project would ensure full employment for decades. The military budget could be scaled back significantly, to provide the $$$. Provisions for trade would be ensured, but the idea would be for the US to basically completely pull back from the world. Let others deal with China and Russia. We have enough resources and land to become completely self dependant. We could build a virtual eden, leaving the rest of the world to rot.
Why the hell do people love "moderates"? This is how I see it.
A moderate is downright scary. A moderate is someone who claims they believe in one thing, but consistently practices another, someone who does things that they know is wrong or evil, but does them anyways due to external pressure. A moderate, in a sense, does not even care about good or evil. They care about how they look.
"Extremists", by contrast, know what they do, know what they want, and know how they want to get it. The extremist will not likely change sides very quickly due to external disapproval. An extremist knows his good from his evil, and will fight for what they call good to the death.
The moderate can be led to do anything with enough rationalization, can be convinced to follow any sociopath into battle. Extremists will not.
But no, hypocrisy is normal, is ENCOURAGED. No, you who follow the holy book as you proclaim you do, YOU are evil. YOU are without morals. YOU need to be destroyed.
Fuck this.
Or read TE Lawrence's The Seven Pillars of Wisdom. Lawrence as in "Lawrence of Arabia". In it while describing Arab history and culture he briefly mentions Wahabism as this heresy (the Arab majority opinion on it not his) that pops up once or twice a century, the vast majority of Arabs try to ignore it but eventually put it down once its practitioners start to get too annoying.
This was general opinion 100 years ago before petrodollars allowed its practitioners to export and evangelize Wahabism (build mosques and schools promoting it) to formerly "moderate" regions. Before petrodollars created a more isolated country and local economy (Saudi Arabia), when ordinary people had more interaction with foreigners.
Bill Clinton once stated that it is the policy of the US government to remove Sadam from power. So its not solely a Bush thing.
Regarding stupidity, that was more the career diplomats not the white house of military. The invasion went well, its the long term occupation that went badly. Most notably due to the decisions of career diplomats, not those in he white house or pentagon. For example the disbanding of the Iraqi army, the diplomat in charge of the provisional authority did that without consulting the white house or pentagon. The pentagon would have liked to remove high ranking officers and put junior officers under command of US officers, so as to use Iraqi units for day-to-day peacekeeping and maintaining order in the streets. As was done with some German and Japanese troops at the end of WW2.
I'm sorry but ISIS was not created by the invasion of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. ISIS was created by the "Arab Spring", ...
No. ISIS is a re-branded al-Quaeda in Iraq. Which was thoroughly defeated by US and local Sunni forces during the Anbar awakening. Things went so poorly for proto-ISIS that they told AQ leadership to stop sending volunteers, the cause was failing too badly.
After the US' total abandonment of Iraq al-Quaeda rebranded as ISIS and made a second attempt. With the Sunni's no longer being able to call on US support, in particular air strikes, and being alienated from a dysfunctional Shia-dominated government ISIS was able to get many Sunni leaders to flip sides once again.
In short, ISIS is just al-Quaeda 2.0. Dad's al-Quaeda 1.0 lost its cool as it leadership went into hiding, became ineffective and died one after another in US bombings or raids. AQ 1.0 was just an old guy ranting about his lawn on video. AQ 2.0 has all the hip videos and stylish modern fashions the kids love.
We are playing by the rules with ISIS and we shouldn't be. We have an administration that refuses to call them "Islamic terrorists" which is what they plainly are.
Any ground that ISIS holds needs to be seen as tainted, regardless of inhabitants. We know where they store their women and children. We know the cities in Syria they see as holy. A couple of fuel air bombs will really hurt them. After this, keep dropping fuel air bombs 24/7. Even if they don't die from the heat and explosions, they will die of suffocation. Ask the Vietnamese what napalms strikes are like. I served in the military and have witnessed napalm strikes. They work, they are highly effective, but... you have to have guys with balls leading an effort to use them. Napalm is cheap and it works. Whatever captured lands they occupy should be fair game regardless of occupancy of innocents. Short of actually killing these terrorists like the roaches they are, they will never be eradicated.
Ask Germany, Japan, and Vietnam what it's like to have be carpet bombed. It works. Full stop.
Is it good to cut off access to the modern equivalent of the public square just because we don't like what is being said?
Let's not pretend that anything this ISIL group does is in any way an attempt at a discussion. These are psychopaths who even other terrorist groups have cut ties with because they think they have gone too far. These are people who would subjugate and kill you in a brutal and public manner without a hint of remorse. This isn't a public square debate. This is a war. Never confuse the one with the other. This isn't two civilized groups agreeing to disagree. ISIS has engaged in genocidal activities. And you seriously think that is a situation where we should just sit back and respect their rights?
Is it a victory to beat them by cutting off their ability to speak?
Very possibly. While I don't pretend to understand everything about them, literally everything I've heard from this group leads me to believe these are people who promote extreme violence and use the islamic faith to justify their psychosis.
How is this different from cutting off Mega's cashflow via PayPal and the credit cards?
How many people has Mega executed?
Figures the PC pussies would label it a "troll."
ISIS behaves exactly as Muhammad did, and exactly as Muhammad instructed his followers to behave.
If you don't know that, then you don't know the history of Islam, or the teachings of Islam.
ISIS was inevitable.
Time for the west to pull it's head out of it's ass and see Islam for it is.
The United States _won_ the war in Vietnam.
In what universe? I've been to Vietnam. If you think the US won you have no idea what actually happened there. There is no point at which you can claim the US "won" that war by any reasonable definition of the term. The US rarely lost battles in Vietnam but ultimately accomplished none of their objectives and the moment the US pulled out, South Vietnam fell.
The North Vietnamese were powerless, and the US left.
Really? Then explain why the Vietnam war ended with the fall of Saigon. The US did the largest air evacuation in history. That is not what you do when you have won a war. "North Vietnamese were powerless"? Don't make me laugh.
Have a carefully constructed, but plausible figure that claims to be Twitter's founder tweet pictures of him wiping his ass with the Koran and ISIS' flag in front of what no one knows is a safehouse in Kansas or Arizona, with the address readily visible/obvious. Wait for the jihad-bent buffoons to approach the house with the intent of doing him in, and let them fall into carefully placed containment pits. When the pits start to get full, unleash the Rancor and save a fortune in Purina Rancor Chow. Problem solved.
Twelve year old obnoxious kids sending innocuous and vague "threats" via twitter to "game devs" sends the game devs into spiraling panic attacks and highly public evacuations to underground protected lairs. So, surely, actual death threads from actual terrorists must be sending the founder of CEO into hiding and police protection, right?
Well, you broke it and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Doesn't matter that the bleeding heart left just wants to be left alone, and the hard right just wants to blame Obama.
The rest of the world doesnt give a f*** about these internal squabbles.
The US broke it, you own it.
It's not like you haven't been warned.
That idealism doesn't even work in this country. It hasn't fixed Detroit or St. Louis. Why should we have to build infrastructure when they are sitting on nearly unlimited wealth from oil?
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Top kek.
>Implying they can touch a guy who probably lives in the US, or has a home far away from anywhere ISIS can reach.
To the rest of the human race. After all, most people are on ISIS hit list if you understand their theology.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
the DAESH sub-human animals started this war...against everything moral and decent in the world. Good for twitter!
I'm sorry, but if you are a "True Believer" (and what exactly is a "False Believer" anyways?) then you are by default dumb.
You believe things by faith, without evidence, and even ignoring evidence to the contrary. This allows you to do almost anything, in the name of faith.
It is a very dumb, stupid, and also scary way to lead ones life, since it literally can (and has) allowed normal intelligent people to otherwise do completely dumb, stupid, and scary things.
We need to fight this type of belief with strong evidence pointing to the facts of our existence. If ISIS wants a caliphate, they'd have a much easier time creating one through political means, but we all know that the Muslim world has been divided since Mohammed died (the son of a bitch that he was, good riddance IMHO) since the Sunni and Shia can't even agree on the form of the caliphate (should it be led by religious leaders or the descendants of Mohammed (may he rot in hell)). And we all know they won't solve that issue without copious amounts of bloodshed.
We should simply remove ourselves from the region, become self-reliant with regards to oil, and let the entire region rot.
ISIS is just as dangerous as the Nazi Gestapo were in WW2. All the posturing people make is of little account when you have people coming to kill you and your family. We need to wake up that this is an organized terror group with plans to rule the world and kill everybody they don't agree with. It's only an matter of time until it comes home to America. I only hope America as a whole can man up and be ready.
I applaud Jack Dorsey for his courage. Were there more men like him.
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