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Jeremy Clarkson Dismissed From Top Gear

An anonymous reader writes According to BBC News, Jeremy Clarkson, longstanding main host for the automobile television show Top Gear, will not have his contract renewed. This decision came about two weeks after he was suspended due to an altercation with a Top Gear producer involving catering during filming for the show. Admittedly not the nerdiest news of the day, but it can be said that his thirteen-year run on the new format of Top Gear has interested many Slashdot users who love their cars and the entertainment that the show has brought to them.

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  1. Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And on that Bomb shell...

    1. Re:Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm confused. can somebody put this in a car analogy?

    2. Re: Oblig by ralphsiegler · · Score: 1

      and that's bad, why?

    3. Re: Oblig by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, yes, he'd have still got sacked, if that's what you're saying about it not making any difference.

      But are you implying that verbally and physically assaulting a colleague aren't grounds enough for dismissal?

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    4. Re:Oblig by quenda · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm confused. can somebody put this in a car analogy?

      Clarkson is like the end of your gear-lever. Useful, but a bit of a knob.

    5. Re: Oblig by koyangi · · Score: 2

      Not at the UFC.

    6. Re: Oblig by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      No, I'm implying there are different levels and not all warrent the same punishment.

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    7. Re:Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you James May

    8. Re: Oblig by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's obvious, but it still doesn't clarify whatever point it was you were trying to make.

      He punched a colleague. He got sacked. Seems pretty reasonable. But it's also pretty much the ultimate sanction the BBC can impose on him, so I'm really not sure what you're trying to say by comparing it with a much worse hypothetical assault which would still have resulted in him getting sacked, albeit with perhaps a little more alacrity.

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    9. Re: Oblig by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      Well, maybe it wasn't the best thought out post. The main point was the BBC is well into its pc zero tolerance these days, especially after being near the centre of pedogeddon with jimmy Saville, and he's been very nearly sacked a bunch of times for next to nothing and it was all but inevitable now he'd actually done something you can get in trouble for even though there's a lot worse things he could've done.

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    10. Re: Oblig by KGIII · · Score: 1

      A secret, or not so secret I guess, part of me hopes that it went down like that or in some other spectacular way. He does seem to type to not let a good crisis go to waste and HOPEFULLY took full advantage of the opportunity to really tee off on some of the things that he was unhappy with besides catering. Hopefully stories about dead hookers, rampant drug use, and pictures of the producer in VERY non-politically correct and VERY compromising are also released.

      It would not only make my day, it would make my month. And, more importantly, I don't care what Clarkson did - it is catering and certainly petty, it will make things even on the scale of true human justice. The only reason you get fired for something to do with catering (unless you are raping them or something) is because they are looking for an opportunity to get rid of you. That's the only reason I can think of at any rate.

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    11. Re: Oblig by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The irony was that Clarkson was already had his final warning, any future offensive comments crossing the line would have had him fired, but then he goes and punches someone so that it wasn't his big mouth that got him fired after all.

      Anyone would have been fired for the same offense, probably lesser people would have spent jail time over it.

    12. Re: Oblig by blind+monkey+3 · · Score: 1

      Well, yes, he'd have still got sacked, if that's what you're saying about it not making any difference.

      But are you implying that verbally and physically assaulting a colleague aren't grounds enough for dismissal?

      He was justified! Do you know they didn't have hot din dins ready for him?
      He's an important star after all and not having hot din dins ready for an important star should be classified as an act of terrorism.
      Millions agree with me - look at the petitions DEMANDING the great one is reinstated.

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    13. Re: Oblig by blind+monkey+3 · · Score: 1

      The only reason you get fired for something to do with catering (unless you are raping them or something) is because they are looking for an opportunity to get rid of you. That's the only reason I can think of at any rate.

      If one of your colleagues punched you because his coffee was cold, should he be dismissed for something to do with cold beverages?

      Punching, threatening and verbally abusing someone is assault. As far as I'm concerned he should be charged with assault.

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    14. Re: Oblig by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Punching someone over steak and chips has nothing to do with political correctness. You're going to have to think harder than just relying on the tried-and-busted PC canard again.

    15. Re: Oblig by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Punching someone over steak and chips has nothing to do with political correctness. You're going to have to think harder than just relying on the tried-and-busted PC canard again.

      People punch people all the time for all kinds of reasons, not all of them have a week long investigation. But are you trying to say the BBC is not highly concerned with it's own political correctness? He almost got sacked over a number plate that may or may not have been selected on purpose but come on, it's a fucking number plate. Every week seemingly he's in the news for saying something slightly dodgy or giving someone a funny look yet the beeb behave everytime as if he's the worst person...in the world.

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    16. Re: Oblig by DedTV · · Score: 1

      Apparently, he didn't get sacked. They're just not renewing his contract. Which means he gets to sit on his ass and get paid by the BBC while fielding offers from pretty much every other media company in the world until his contract expires while the guy he punched no longer gets to work for one of the most prestigious show brands in the world.

      So, the guy he punched will likely end up on some doomed BBC 2 reality show, The BBC loses a 28 year old brand and a show that brought in over $50 million/year while Clarkson (and potentially May and Hammond) get to find someone willing to pay for the talents honed at the BBC without (apparently) being subject to the no-compete clause and the anger of Top Gear fans that quitting would have subjected them to.

      And prosecution? It's England, not the U.S. It was a simple assault by a drunk old man at a pub with with the victim saying publicly that he sustained only minor injury. If Britain imposed prison time for that they'd have more people in jail than the US does every time the World Cup came round. At most he'll get a £500 fine and have to get some counseling.

    17. Re: Oblig by toadlife · · Score: 1

      Not having the contract renewed how people with contracts get fired.

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    18. Re: Oblig by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      He was already on a yellow card. Actually a whole deck of them, becoming deeper and deeper orange. He should have been more careful.

      I can take Top Gear or leave it; it seems to be all about set-up stunts these days. Clarkson has presented some very good historical documentaries, give him credit for that.

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    19. Re: Oblig by DedTV · · Score: 1

      Being handed a box with the contents of your office by security along with a document from the legal department that detail which clause(s) of your contract have been breached so they can avoid having to pay you for the remainder of the contract term and void any golden handshake provisions in the contract is how people with contracts get fired.
      Not having your contract renewed is akin to being given a gold watch and cake.

    20. Re: Oblig by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You don't think I read the article or anything do you? How silly. I had no idea that he'd assaulted someone (if I'm understanding your post correctly). If that's the case his ass should be out on the pavement now and legal charges should be examined to see if they are a viable option.

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    21. Re: Oblig by blind+monkey+3 · · Score: 1

      Far worse - after filming he went for "a few drinks", got to the hotel after the kitchen had closed and there was no more hot foods available so he took it out on the producer Oisin Tymon. The film crew were already in bed, Oisin Tymon stayed up and waited for Clarkson to make sure he was alright.
      The hotel manager organised a steak and chips for him to try and calm him down but it didn't help. In all he verbally abused the guy for 40 minutes and physically assaulted him for 30 seconds. People dragged him off of the guy.
      Oisin Tymon is now getting death threats despite the fact he didn't lodge a complaint. Ah to be famous and be able to do no wrong in the eyes of the masses.

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    22. Re: Oblig by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If your description is accurate then that deserves a day in court, some public apologies, maybe some jail time (simple assaults are usually just fines or MAYBE a weekend in jail), and a loss of his job. He should also be blacklisted from the industry but that isn't going to happen. He'll have a new job in a week if he wants one. Ah, as you said, to be famous...

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    23. Re:Oblig by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      How's about that then?

  2. in further news show tanks by waldozer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    End of show.

    1. Re:in further news show tanks by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Doubtful. Top Gear has existed in some form or another for decades. I'll grant you the current incarnation is firmly anchored around Jezza, but this isn't much of a death sentence for the show.

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    2. Re:in further news show tanks by Holi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering he was talent who relaunched it in 2002 and was the primary driver of it's popularity, then yeah it's done. Look at what happened in 2001 when Jeremy left the show the first time . Viewership dropped by half and it was cancelled.

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    3. Re:in further news show tanks by jlv · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't they just always have him regenerate and replace him with another actor?

    4. Re:in further news show tanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Plus the other two refused to keep filming without him, probably because they know that they can't carry the show on their own and that many fans would be pissed at them if they tried to. Besides, they do have other side shows to keep them busy or they could just retire assuming that they were wise with their earnings over the past decade.

      But yeah, without Jeremy the show will tank. He is the most important of the three hosts and without the hosts there is little reason to watch the show as it'll just became as lame as the American version (which is a really redundant spin-off to begin with.)

    5. Re:in further news show tanks by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Fire the American hosts (do that in any case), hire the British ones then never let them review an English car (because they obviously can't do that objectively).

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    6. Re:in further news show tanks by eepok · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're thinking of Mr. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice.

    7. Re:in further news show tanks by stealth_finger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doubtful. Top Gear has existed in some form or another for decades. I'll grant you the current incarnation is firmly anchored around Jezza, but this isn't much of a death sentence for the show.

      Top Gear was just another boring car show until Clarkson and a different producer (Andy Wilson I think his name is) reinvented it into it's current form, without him that's what it will go back to and we don't need another fifth gear. Considering it's had a ton of spin offs in different countries and they have all died a death. Is Top Gear USA still on, and if so does it still suck? There's something about these three that make the show work so well which would be obviously lacking with three different blokes.

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    8. Re:in further news show tanks by Guspaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only other form it has existed in was cancelled, and the only reason the franchise survived was because they relaunched it with Clarkson. It has yet to be proven that any other form of the show could succeed in the UK without him... particularly if the three hosts end up going elsewhere to host a similar show. Many viewers could consider such a successor show to be "the real Top Gear" even if it had a different name on a different network.

    9. Re:in further news show tanks by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      Should have ended anyway. I haven't been able to sit through an entire episode in about 3 years.

    10. Re:in further news show tanks by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      I predict we'll see announcements of a totally unrelated new show with all three hosts, called "Highest Gear" on a competing channel very soon.

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    11. Re:in further news show tanks by SailorSpork · · Score: 1

      I think BBC may take the opportunity to just clean house and bring in a new set of 3 hosts. The chemistry that those 3 had was great, so just lugging in a new replacement with the 2 remaining would be a disaster. But it could work with a set of 3 completely new hosts.

      Also, I'm betting this was just the last straw with BBC, not the first offense. In the show, Jeremy would constantly make reference to the fact that he was doing things his way and not how producers wanted him to do it... which likely was not always the joke people thought it was. The irreverence to the BBC and its producers was a big part of the show's popularity, but was probably also a thorn in the BBC's side. I await more Stigs driving tanks in protest but don't think it will matter.

      tldr; Jeremy kept pissing off BBC so they're probably happy to be rid of him, ratings be damned. We'll all miss him.

    12. Re:in further news show tanks by Tx · · Score: 1

      I always watch Top Gear, but to be honest, in its current form it's been getting old. Good opportunity to put it to bed for a little while, then re-incarnate it a couple of years down the line in a new form.

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    13. Re:in further news show tanks by ayjay29 · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>End of show.

      Maybe not. Even if May and Hammond quit, they still have The Stig.

      Alright, he/she is not the most talkative presenter the BBC has, but it might just work...

      "Some say he is a talented mime artist, and can accurately describe the attitude of a BMW driver by simply raising one finger."

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    14. Re:in further news show tanks by mcgett · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure during a recent Top Gear episode that had James May learn how to drive a rallycross car from Tanner Foust that I saw a promo during for a new season of Top Gear USA/America starting in June on the History Channel. However, they don't seem to give a damn and the official Twitter, Facebook and History Channel pages haven't been updated since November 2014. And yes, it still sucks in comparison to the original Top Gear. Same goes for the Australian version.

    15. Re:in further news show tanks by jandersen · · Score: 1, Troll

      Don't they just always have him regenerate and replace him with another actor?

      No, that's the Stig, not the Dick. Or should that be 'Dr Who not Dr Who Cares'?

      Oops, another 'troll -10' coming my way. Sigh.

    16. Re:in further news show tanks by neilo_1701D · · Score: 2

      I think BBC may take the opportunity to just clean house and bring in a new set of 3 hosts. The chemistry that those 3 had was great, so just lugging in a new replacement with the 2 remaining would be a disaster. But it could work with a set of 3 completely new hosts.

      Doubt it. Top Gear Australia tried that; belly-flop. Then they replaced the prime host. Relaunch; belly-flop.

      Other implementations of the show (eg. To Gear US) diverged greatly from the original concept to keep a viewership.

      There may be a BBC motoring show, with three presenters, but if it tries to be Top Gear it'll probably fail. Look at Final Gear; it's actually a more informative show than Top Gear, but almost nobody knows about it.

      Sorry to see Jezza go, but the BBC did the right thing.

    17. Re:in further news show tanks by BestNicksRTaken · · Score: 1

      jezza's been in it from the start, tiff needell used to be good in it but left to join fifth gear which i think got cancelled within a year. i can't think who they could bring in that would keep the show going.

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    18. Re:in further news show tanks by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      They couldn't make a small enough internal combustion engine to fit in his sonic screwdriver.

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    19. Re:in further news show tanks by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

      They couldn't make a small enough internal combustion engine to fit in his sonic screwdriver.

      Rumor had it that Clarkson's screwdriver was rather small, anyway. That's why he needed the cars.

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    20. Re:in further news show tanks by flappinbooger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look at Final Gear; it's actually a more informative show than Top Gear, but almost nobody knows about it.

      Sorry to see Jezza go, but the BBC did the right thing.

      I think you mean fifth gear, not final gear.

      Final gear is a fan website that posted links to the torrents of all top gear/ fifth gear episodes and after several years of providing links got a nasty C+D letter from BBC or a BBC surrogate organization.

      Otherwise, you are 100% right, copies of TGUK that try to be TGUK fail, because what TGUK is (WAS) wasn't the result of them trying to be that way, that's just the way they were.

      If we go back and watch the show starting at season 2 up to the current season we see that the show evolved into what it is known for, and it took years to get there. For several seasons it wasn't just about 3 middle aged blokes falling down and cocking about.

      My personal take is that the BBC had no choice but to sack Clarkson, it truly is his fault. The only question is whether he (to some extent, or subconsciously) wanted to be forced to stop doing the show because otherwise there was no way he could bring himself to stop.

      I foresee the three to do some work together on their own or under some other organization.

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    21. Re:in further news show tanks by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      The only other form it has existed in was cancelled, and the only reason the franchise survived was because they relaunched it with Clarkson. It has yet to be proven that any other form of the show could succeed in the UK without him... particularly if the three hosts end up going elsewhere to host a similar show. Many viewers could consider such a successor show to be "the real Top Gear" even if it had a different name on a different network.

      I foresee them getting welcomed warmly to another organization. And that they will ensure that Jezza ALWAYS is fed promptly.

      I saw the recent YT clip where May said they were a package deal and that he had to quickly go make a Ebay posting to sell his Ferrari. I'm sure he was only half joking...

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    22. Re:in further news show tanks by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      Fire the American hosts (do that in any case), hire the British ones then never let them review an English car (because they obviously can't do that objectively).

      Good idea but that's still the BBC, who just fired him.

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    23. Re:in further news show tanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Look at Final Gear; it's actually a more informative show than Top Gear, but almost nobody knows about it.

      Because information isn't what we watch Top Gear for to begin with, it's the stunts and general larking about that draws viewers in.

    24. Re:in further news show tanks by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      I think BBC may take the opportunity to just clean house and bring in a new set of 3 hosts. The chemistry that those 3 had was great, so just lugging in a new replacement with the 2 remaining would be a disaster. But it could work with a set of 3 completely new hosts.

      Not likely. Consider The Man Show as precedent; it pretty much jumped the shark when they tried to replace Adam Carolla & Jimmy Kimmel.

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    25. Re:in further news show tanks by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      Fifth Gear is still going. I don't think it's as entertaining a show as Top Gear but it clearly gets enough viewers that they keep it going.

    26. Re:in further news show tanks by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      but their creed (or motto?) was "if somebody dies, leave them behind"

      Whether it be a car breaking down or somebody actually dead - they once said (several years back) that they had all sworn to keep going !!

      However - Jeremy was kind of the leader. Hammond maybe could do it - would be strange. If it were me - I'd bail because I'd just "cock it up." Wouldn't want to be around as it fell down. Get out while on the top.

      I saw an interview yesterday with Capt Slow on his front porch. He acknowledged the media reports and then said "If you'll excuse me I have a LaFerrari to list on eBay" and left.

    27. Re:in further news show tanks by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's a death sentence for the show on BBC.

      If the presenters even want to continue, and they may well but they also may well not, then they will have no trouble taking themselves to another network to make another show just like Top Gear, or different in any way that they find interesting.

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    28. Re:in further news show tanks by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Is Top Gear USA still on, and if so does it still suck?

      Yes, and yes.

      Internet car aficionados have suggested lots of possible credible competition to Top Gear. There's several highly popular Youtube car shows out there right now, and some of the people on them have more charisma than anyone on US TG.

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    29. Re:in further news show tanks by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I think BBC may take the opportunity to just clean house and bring in a new set of 3 hosts.

      They can bring in a group of Politically Correct dorks who will fawn over the Prius.

      The show won't last, however.

    30. Re:in further news show tanks by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The best retort to 'small screwdriver' comments will always be:

      No, it's only that size when YOU are around.

      Really pisses off women.

    31. Re:in further news show tanks by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Doubtful. Top Gear has existed in some form or another for decades. I'll grant you the current incarnation is firmly anchored around Jezza, but this isn't much of a death sentence for the show.

      Top Gear was just another boring car show until Clarkson and a different producer (Andy Wilson I think his name is) reinvented it into it's current form, without him that's what it will go back to and we don't need another fifth gear.

      The producer is Andy WIlman.

      Fifth gear already exists for us car anoraks, we don't really need another (I will say Tiff and Jason do a fantastic job, but cant stand Vicki Butler-Henderson). I'm pretty sure that James May, Richard Hammond, Clarkson and Wilman will come as a package deal for whoever wants to pick them up.

      Rumour is that Netflix is looking to pick them up. I kind of hope they do as all other commercial networks are beholden to advertisers and would eventually force the show to become more "advertiser friendly". Half the stuff Clarkson and crew got away with was because the BBC didn't have to answer to Vauxhall (General Motors) Renault or Citroen when the TG presenters slagged them off and I'm pretty sure Clarkson has had nothing nice to say about any Vauxhall. A major part of the appeal Top Gear had was that it was so irreverent, an irreverence that they'd never get away with on a commercial network.

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    32. Re:in further news show tanks by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      BTW I am a huge TG fan, to the point that my ringtone is the TG intro music. I have all the episodes and have watched all of them repeatedly. I have several of the presenter's other works as well. I wish I could have some day actually attended a taping but...

      My favorite is 10:4, the Botswana ep where Hammond drives Oliver across Africa, which is, by the way, their favorite adventure as well.

      Sadly my wife and kids can't stand the show. Oh well. It is and will continue to be my thing, even if there are no more. It was a special thing, everyone knew it, and I doubt it will ever be recreated unless the lads find a new home elsewhere.

      I saw a rumor where they were being courted by Netflix? Wouldn't that be something?

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    33. Re:in further news show tanks by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      The thing about all three of the current top gear guys is that they are utter toss pots. And its not Clarkson that has make it work. Its the producer with some of the best editing and camera work in the industry.

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    34. Re:in further news show tanks by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      You would have to do more than fire the American hosts....

      My recollection from the American version is that they never allowed anyone to say anything against any of the cars.
      They were pretty lame.

      Now, if they were to find a comedian who knew cars ( Tim Allen, Jay Leno come to mind ) and they were willing to get in trouble with the advertisers occasionally, they might make it go. That or have naked girls in/drive the cars Or both ( comedian with naked girl ).
      And review some interesting cars, I cant remember an episode of TGUS where it was more than advertising.

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    35. Re:in further news show tanks by Cederic · · Score: 1

      See, if you'd said "not the cock" it would've stayed in canon, we'd have been fine.

    36. Re:in further news show tanks by Cederic · · Score: 1

      its not Clarkson that has make it work. Its the producer

      You seriously underestimate the creative input from the presenters, and the other two happily acknowledge that Clarkson makes a massive contribution.

      some of the best editing and camera work in the industry.

      ..although it's worth watching the show just for this, yes.

    37. Re:in further news show tanks by Cederic · · Score: 1

      never let them review an English car (because they obviously can't do that objectively)

      This is probably why the American Top Gear never worked.

      The British hosts never review any car objectively. They don't even pretend. That's half the fucking point.

    38. Re:in further news show tanks by doccus · · Score: 1

      Despite it all, whether his firing is justified or not, although it obviously is, it's true that he was the ONLY reason I watched Top Gear BBC..Obviously he had enough editorial clout to apply his brand of hunor, thereby making the show effective in ways that the US anbd Australian ones were not. A perfect example is, and to this day I STILL can't get it out of my mind, his driving the "world's smallest car" into the BBC building, and through the hallways, into the elevator, and into the studio! Also, the point made earlier here about BBC not accepting advertising allowed Clarkson to indulge in his particular brand of savage wit on any otherwise "untouchable" make or model.. which is still impossible elsewhere as even the American public Broadcasting System is occasionally funded by foundations associated with the auto industry.. So with him gone, you have just another car show. Luckily, all the episodes are available for free download. By the BBC, itself, on Youtube. So why they got choked about that "Final Gear" hosting torrents of those very self same episodes .. .. beats me..

    39. Re:in further news show tanks by BlueLightning · · Score: 1

      Not the Stig, but Stig's talkative cousin.

    40. Re:in further news show tanks by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Preventing them from blowing the newest Rover would be entertaining, half the fucking point. Clarkson would explode.

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  3. what will be more interesting by logan3111 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    will be watching bbc management scramble when they realize their cash cow left the building when May and Hammond, decline to renew their contracts.

    1. Re: what will be more interesting by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. It's a non profit, licence funded public organisation. Slightly differnt but the difference matters.

      The licence fee may be considered a "tax", but it goes straight to the BBCthe BBC. It doesn't go into the general tax pool.

      It is explicitly separate from government and while it's impossible to keep them completely isolated from each other, this separation is taken very seriously. The BBC has no qualms about upsetting the government, and any government that tries to exert pressure will be very unpopular.

    2. Re: what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The BBC in the UK is funded by a licensing fee. However there is a commerical arm called BBC Worldwide which funnels money back to the UK operation. (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Worldwide).

    3. Re:what will be more interesting by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are people really going to miss yet another totally fake show pretending to be reality? Is it just because this one combined cars and Daily Mail-style politics?

      Sorry, but I have no sympathy for a primadonna for whom curses at an employee for 20 minutes and then physically assaults him up for half a minute (without any resistance from his victim) before someone pulled him off, all because the Clarkson's food wasn't warm. And this is hardly the first time Clarkson has behaved like this, he was already on "final warning" after a string of other incidents. What befalls him is his own bloody fault. And all of the abuse that the victim got over this whole thing... my favorite tweet on the subject was:

      "Man assaults another man and victim receives abuse because people can’t watch a TV show about cars. Bravo society. "

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    4. Re:what will be more interesting by Racemaniac · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I love it how when a big company for once doesn't choose for the money but actually takes a stance against a star misbehaving, and then everybody is like "sucks being them, they'll lose a lot of money over this".

      Do we want them to be ethical, or just chasing money no matter the consequences? Either of both appear to be the wrong thing to do it seems.

    5. Re:what will be more interesting by igloo-x · · Score: 1

      will be watching bbc management scramble when they realize their cash cow left the building when May and Hammond, decline to renew their contracts.

      The three of them have have said that Top Gear is either all 3 of them, or they all stop doing it. This has been public knowledge for years.

    6. Re:what will be more interesting by kuzb · · Score: 2

      I gotta agree. People don't really realize what a pompous asshat clarkson really is.

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    7. Re: what will be more interesting by Mattcelt · · Score: 2

      The Beeb are not a government organisation. They are independent of HMG (at least in name).

      They are not directly tax-funded. Subjects in the UK pay a TV licence (currently about £145, IIRC) that subsidises the organisation in the UK.

      The BBC in the UK are, I believe, non-profit - meaning only that they spend all of their £5 billion+ endowment each year. The details are less clear on BBC Worldwide, at least as far as I can find; I have a sneaking suspicion that that organisation is actually a for-profit centre and somewhat independent from the BBC in the UK. Don't quote me on that, however - it's conjecture and speculation on my part.

    8. Re:what will be more interesting by Jerry+Atrick · · Score: 1

      I'll be watching the politicians that spend so much time trying to shut down the BBC's funding scramble to explain why sacking a bigoted thug who went too far was wrong, without looking like a bumbling bunch of Clarksons.

      They'll fail of course because they are a bumbling bunch of Clarksons.

    9. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't really care that he is a pompous asshat. What i care about in that show is that its funny. The interactions between the three hosts are great. The fact that Clarkson is off the show means i'll no longer watch it because the chemistry between the three is what drove the show.

    10. Re:what will be more interesting by quax · · Score: 4, Funny

      Have you ever watched it? It's like Monty Python with adult sized hot wheels.

    11. Re:what will be more interesting by bickerdyke · · Score: 3, Informative

      I guess that's what made the show work, but physical assault is crossing a line.

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    12. Re:what will be more interesting by ibpooks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, people do realize what a "pompous asshat" Jeremy Clarkson is, and they either don't care given how good he is at what he does, or they admire those traits. Large segments of society are not on board with the PC, wimpy, constantly-whining-about-bullying-and-____ism that is pervasive in media, especially an institution like BBC. Clarkson is a figure who pushes back at that trend, and many see him as a hero (now perhaps a martyr) for it.

    13. Re:what will be more interesting by johnnys · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So his mother just died and he was going through a nasty divorce. His soon-to-be-ex wife is also his manager, so both his professional and personal lives are completely miserable. He was working long hours and he had just spent two hours in a pub where he had been drinking heavily.

      None of that excuses a physical attack, but the BBC should have stepped in and provided him with a chance to see a therapist and get some help, then make the appropriate apologies and restitution. Sometimes "zero tolerance" absolutism needs to be relaxed a bit in exigent circumstances.

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    14. Re: what will be more interesting by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      I thought the BBC was a non-profit tax-funded government organization?

      They are but they call the tax a license fee and they tell the gov to fuck off.

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    15. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's what stars do. They're spoiled brats. It's not good, it's not right, but it's certainly normal. People ride the star's gravy train and are, usually, willing to put up with it. See Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men or Christian Bale absolutely losing it while filming Terminator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0auwpvAU2YA). Hell, I went with some friends to watch a taping of the show "Friends" over a decade ago and we were there from 10am to 9pm, watching very, very little of the show being taped because Jennifer Anniston was "having a bad day" and didn't want to come out. We weren't allowed to leave our seats to get food unless we were leaving permanently. That day sucked.

      Moreover, it wasn't that "his food wasn't warm". It's that there was no regular dinner. They had finished filming at 10 or 11pm and the hotel cook staff had already gone home. All that was left was a cheese/meat plate. Clarkson was already drunk, so his inner asshole was more pronounced than normal. That's obviously no excuse, rationale, or justification, but it's a more correct appraisal of what actually led to whatever happened.

    16. Re: what will be more interesting by gizmo2199 · · Score: 1

      How do "intelligence organizations" control he BBC?

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    17. Re:what will be more interesting by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Yes, I think they do. At least I do. I just happen to like his pompous asshattery.

    18. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If I show up to work drunk and beat on someone, I would expect to get fired.

    19. Re:what will be more interesting by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Realistically though, How could the BBC have resolved this any other way?

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    20. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very much this. Most Americans don't understand just how restricted speech is in the UK by comparison to the US. The US has concerns about the PC culture, but the UK rides the PC horse like it's running from a posse. The mere mention of someone being offended or people sending in letters to complain require a company or station to react and make prostrating apologies.

      The US has shock jocks, audacity humor-- look at what passes for news at Fox News!

      Of course, physically assaulting one of your staff is inexcusable and he deserves the storm he gets for it, but the vast majority of his "offenses" are actually just people being offended by audacity humor.

    21. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The BBC had absolutely zero options. If he hadn't physically assualted that producer, then it might have been possible not to sack him, but there is absolutely no way any company or organisation in the UK would not sack someone who physically assaults someone else in the organisation like that.

    22. Re:what will be more interesting by gizmo2199 · · Score: 1

      TRIGGERED

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    23. Re:what will be more interesting by ID000001 · · Score: 1

      A lot of people forgot that BBC had no choice. Clarkson reported himself, and BBC has to literally break their own rule to not fire him. Clarkson lose, May and Hammond lose. BBC lose, the audience lose. Nobody wins.

    24. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So his mother just died and he was going through a nasty divorce. His soon-to-be-ex wife is also his manager, so both his professional and personal lives are completely miserable. He was working long hours and he had just spent two hours in a pub where he had been drinking heavily.

      None of that excuses a physical attack, but the BBC should have stepped in and provided him with a chance to see a therapist and get some help, then make the appropriate apologies and restitution. Sometimes "zero tolerance" absolutism needs to be relaxed a bit in exigent circumstances.

      In the past few years Clarkson has repeatedly been given second, third, fourth chances etc over jokes about killing prostitutes, Mexicans being lazy and worthless, using the n- word on camera etc. The idea that the BBC is running some kind of zero-tolerance regime is ridiculous - if anything they have been incredibly accommodating to his overgrown teenage-boy persona, complete with "edgy" jokes that his viewers avidly lap up in between posting whines about "SJW" on Reddit.

      You can bet that if the producer had punched Clarkson there wouldn't be all this fuss with people endlessly making excuses for him. It's not like the man is going to be living on the streets FFS, he's still a multi-millionaire.

    25. Re:what will be more interesting by Viol8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "using the n- word on camera etc"

      He didn't actually. But that didn't stop the liberal left making out that he did.

      And no , I'm not a particularly clarkson fan - he can be funny but generally the man is an oaf. However there were agendas on both sides in this.

    26. Re:what will be more interesting by geekmux · · Score: 1

      I love it how when a big company for once doesn't choose for the money but actually takes a stance against a star misbehaving, and then everybody is like "sucks being them, they'll lose a lot of money over this".

      Do we want them to be ethical, or just chasing money no matter the consequences? Either of both appear to be the wrong thing to do it seems.

      Perhaps this little fact will explain this phenomenon.

      Greed has absolutely nothing to do with ethics.

    27. Re:what will be more interesting by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Punching people is not protected speech in the US.

    28. Re:what will be more interesting by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Funny

      And this is hardly the first time Clarkson has behaved like this, he was already on "final warning" after a string of other incidents.

      He probably should have molested a bunch of kids instead. Then the BBC would have kept the entire incident covered up.

    29. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 1

      Of course not. But all the other "offenses" were speech and had those other "offenses" not been considered offenses due to free speech, this would have simply been a fight. A damnable offense, to be sure, but not something a gravy-train star would have been let go for.

      The "fracas" was the "last straw"... except 95% of all the other straw was Clarkson being rude, not actually harming someone.

    30. Re:what will be more interesting by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      You're talking crap. Was he arrested and tried for any of those things he said?

      No? Then government control on free speech have not been applied. The BBC can choose not to put him on air if they wish, however.

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    31. Re:what will be more interesting by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Clarkson never got laid?? Time to wake up and read the papers sleeping beauty!

    32. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well said Sir. I admire Clarkson for sticking two fingers up at the permanently offended. Us ordinary plebs can't do that because we care about getting fired (we're not all multi-millionaires like him). But we wish we could just tell people to fuck off.

    33. Re:what will be more interesting by BestNicksRTaken · · Score: 1

      it was getting a bit repetitive - go abroad somewhere with 3 knackered cars, try to cross a river/desert, end up doing roadside fixes, one presenter gets left behind, bang into each other a bit, blah blah.

      very formulaic, like ramsey's hotel hell or even the a-team.

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    34. Re:what will be more interesting by Racemaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What planet do you come from, and how do i get there?
      On this planet greed is one of the main things people are more than willing to shove their ethics aside for. Most companies if they can choose between the ethical thing (throwing JC out), or keep profiting from him since he's one of the main stars, will choose the latter. Greed and ethics often conflict, and it's nice to see a big company go for the ethical option.

    35. Re:what will be more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So that video that I watched with him reciting the rhyme wasn't "on camera?"

    36. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 1

      I'm not the one who said it was a free speech issue. The parent to my comment did.

      Context, buddy. Context.

    37. Re: what will be more interesting by sce7mjm · · Score: 2

      "Not for profit" does not mean the company cannot hold a surplus of funds between each year. It means it cannot pay "profits" to share holders (because there aren't any) or guarantors who take liability for the company (in place of share holders).

        It gets certain tax and other advantages because of this.

    38. Re:what will be more interesting by timftbf · · Score: 1

      I don't care how much of a star you are, if you assault a colleague in the workplace, you *should* be fired, unless there are far, far, stronger mitigating circumstances than "my dinner was cold".

      No previous straw required.

    39. Re:what will be more interesting by Racemaniac · · Score: 1

      "Something strong enough to make him regret he did it and be exceptionally careful about it in future"
      Sounds like an idea, but your suggestion of "forfeited his 6 months pay and made him apologize to producer on the show" is just ridiculous. He did the second, and would hardly notice the first.
      He just ruined his own show, i guess he'll now regret he did it and be exceptionally careful about it in the future.

    40. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree. That's what should happen.

      But it's not what normally happens. Especially with gravy-train stars.

      http://www.ranker.com/list/cel...
      http://www.thegloss.com/2014/0...
      http://www.celebzen.com/8-cele...
      http://www.suggest.com/movies/...

      I assert that if Clarkson's audacious humor hadn't offended as many people, this most recent action wouldn't have resulted in his contract not being renewed. Instead, it would have been one of a couple more serious incidents and he'd still be doing Top Gear. He'd maybe pay some big fines, go to anger management, and/or make an official apology, but the BBC would still be riding his gravy train.

      You can get away with a lot if you make people big money. If Hollywood isn't a good enough example, try the NFL or NBA.

    41. Re:what will be more interesting by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are people really going to miss yet another totally fake show pretending to be reality? Is it just because this one combined cars and Daily Mail-style politics?

      It's worth understanding that Top Gear hasn't pretended to be reality for quite some time. They deadpan a lot, but it's all pretty clearly acknowledged to be a live-action cartoon. I read a very good article that talked some about this recently, 'Top Gear' broke my heart (and it wasn't Jeremy Clarkson's fault):

      As an auto journalist, I'm used to Clarkson's antics. He's a classic buffoon, and the genius of "Top Gear" is that Clarkson and his co-hosts, James May and Richard Hammond, realized long ago that transforming themselves into cartoon characters would be both incredibly lucrative and lavishly entertaining. The show has been on forever, and while it's always presenting new cars and ever-more-outlandish spectacles to its legions of avid viewers, the basic shtick has become reliably changeless: three weird looking English dudes doing goofy things with rides both exotic and mundane.

      He also talks about some of Top Gear's strengths and weaknesses -- definitely worth the read if you're a fan of the show, or just want to know a bit more about why so many people seem to love a show about cars.

      Sorry, but I have no sympathy for a primadonna for whom curses at an employee for 20 minutes and then physically assaults him up for half a minute

      There's no excuse for this, but as others have said there's a bit more to it. Clarkson may or may not be a primadonna (vs just being a knob, as May referred to him several times), but given the stress he was under and the alcohol, him blowing his top over something small isn't a huge surprise. He certainly deserved to be disciplined, but I'm not sure sacking him outright was the best decision. One thing I am certain of is that the BBC will come to regret it.

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    42. Re:what will be more interesting by Space+cowboy · · Score: 1

      Fortunately the comment history is preserved. Not 5 posts up you state, and I quote:

      "Most Americans don't understand just how restricted speech is in the UK by comparison to the US"

      Restriction of free speech pertains to government restriction. We don't care what companies / institutions do. The BBC isn't the government.

      So, I guess the gp was correct.

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    43. Re:what will be more interesting by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      But all the other "offenses" were speech and had those other "offenses" not been considered offenses due to free speech, this would have simply been a fight.

      Were the other offenses actual "Free Speech" issues (i.e. he expressed an opinion that his producers and/or a BBC executive didn't agree with) or were they instances of verbally assaulting someone like he did this time?

    44. Re:what will be more interesting by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      Except there's a different between merely offending people and punching someone because you didn't get your din din (because you chose to hang out at the pub for a few hours getting drunk).

    45. Re:what will be more interesting by flappinbooger · · Score: 2

      Are people really going to miss yet another totally fake show pretending to be reality?

      this one, yes.

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    46. Re: what will be more interesting by YuppieScum · · Score: 1

      Not hidden at all.

      BBC Worldwide is the *commercial* arm of the BBC, responsible for the marketing and merchandising of BBC assets globally. Profits from this company are then fed back to the non-profit BBC.

      Nothing hidden, no lies, no mystery. Nothing to see here...

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    47. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 1

      I said nothing of the UK government (even though the UK government does restrict speech more than the US [http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/03/21/394273902/on-libel-and-the-law-u-s-and-u-k-go-separate-ways]).

      My intent (and I apologize if not 100% clear) was to explain that in the UK, there is public outrage for anything that can be considered by some people as rude. For example, in the United States, Rush Limbaugh can say many, many atrocious things throughout his daily radio show. He can even lie. He can intentionally lie to the public without attempting to shock people with audacious humor.

      In the UK, however, audacious humor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY) is acted against by the public. People who take offense are empowered by weak-willed companies to silence things they don't like to hear... or more accurately, hear about.

      Because most of the people who watch Top Gear do so with the expectation of audacious humor-- for the group's non-PC manner of conversation. Once one person says, "Clarkson said this last night..." all these other people who weren't watching call the Beeb and write them letters saying how offended they are. The few loud offended are then touted as "100% of the motoring public" (to steal from Top Gear) and then apologies must be made.

      That's how the UK speech is more restricted than in the US.

    48. Re:what will be more interesting by houghi · · Score: 1

      For the money? BBC will not loose any money for the lack of advertisement. So what other reasons could there be?
      The most obvious one is that he is an asshole.

      Next to that, he already had a reduction in hios wage, because he made too much, so they are saving money by firing them.

      And remember that this is not the first time he has done something embaressing. Remeber what he did in Argentina? That did not go down well and would cause problems for other people working for the BBC.

      So this was just the excuse they were waiting for.

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    49. Re:what will be more interesting by eepok · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They were more of audacious humor being taken as rude and thus made the BBC look bad. See this highly informative post I made that was quickly down-modded (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7156205&cid=49345691).

      1. Drove a truck in the Arctic circle while having a gin and tonic. (No roads, international waters)
      2. Called truck drivers porn-loving prostitute murderers.
      3. Called the Prime Minister a one-eyes idiot.
      4. Said the BBC was obsessed with hiring Black Muslim lesbians (commentary on the focus on diversity).
      5. Told a story about a woman wearing a burka falling over and exposing a g-string and stockings.
      6. Called a Ferrari "special needs".

      And on and on. Within the context of the character he plays, this is all to be expected. It's all the joke of him being an ignorant buffoon. He plays this character on TV everywhere he goes, but his more intelligent normal self pops out from time to time such as on QI or on some of his specials.

    50. Re:what will be more interesting by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      So his mother just died and he was going through a nasty divorce. His soon-to-be-ex wife is also his manager, so both his professional and personal lives are completely miserable. He was working long hours and he had just spent two hours in a pub where he had been drinking heavily.

      I'm ashamed to say I had not heard any of that. Source?

      oh, wait, here http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-...

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    51. Re:what will be more interesting by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      And this is hardly the first time Clarkson has behaved like this, he was already on "final warning" after a string of other incidents.

      He probably should have molested a bunch of kids instead. Then the BBC would have kept the entire incident covered up.

      this needs to be rated higher. ^^^^^^

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    52. Re:what will be more interesting by flappinbooger · · Score: 2

      it was getting a bit repetitive - go abroad somewhere with 3 knackered cars, try to cross a river/desert, end up doing roadside fixes, one presenter gets left behind, bang into each other a bit, blah blah.

      very formulaic, like ramsey's hotel hell or even the a-team.

      And yet it's produced better and is more entertaining than just about anything else not on AMC.

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    53. Re:what will be more interesting by Phillip2 · · Score: 1

      I think by "how restricted speech is in the UK by comparison to the US", what you mean is that in the UK we value politeness.

      Freedom of speech is not the same as the right to be listened to.

    54. Re:what will be more interesting by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      A lot of people forgot that BBC had no choice. Clarkson reported himself, and BBC has to literally break their own rule to not fire him.

      Clarkson lose, May and Hammond lose. BBC lose, the audience lose.

      Nobody wins.

      We will win if/when they are back to cocking about on some other network or on a film of their own making.

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    55. Re:what will be more interesting by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

      Yes, he did. He admitted that he did. It wasn't in the take they used, but he admits he used it.

      http://www.theguardian.com/med...

    56. Re:what will be more interesting by qeveren · · Score: 1

      I'm bewildered that anyone would take anything Jezzer says seriously.

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    57. Re:what will be more interesting by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      So his mother just died and he was going through a nasty divorce. His soon-to-be-ex wife is also his manager, so both his professional and personal lives are completely miserable. He was working long hours and he had just spent two hours in a pub where he had been drinking heavily.

      You know, sometimes life difficulties are the culmination of the way you treat others (say karma if you wish) and when it stacks up this heavily against someone its usually a clue that you are being a twat and need to change your behavior, OR just push through and continue with your current behavior until the roof collapses and kills you.

      Seems clear which choice he is making here.

    58. Re:what will be more interesting by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Here's the video where he says "nigger" on camera: https://youtu.be/UraJ5FN80xo

      It wasn't broadcast, but he did say it and it was recorded. That's his problem, he can't control himself. He likes to do risky and edgy stuff like using that rhyme, but can't handle it and ends up doing or saying something stupid.

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    59. Re:what will be more interesting by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The mere mention of someone being offended or people sending in letters to complain require a company or station to react and make prostrating apologies.

      It's the same as how the US went through a phase of people suing for the most ridiculous reasons before it mostly calmed down to a sensible level. Of course most of those lawsuits were thrown out at the early stages, or if not turned out to have merit (like the infamous McDonald's "hot coffee" incident).

      The UK is getting over its stupid reaction to PC as well. If you look at recent decisions Ofcom has been rejecting a lot of complaints from overly sensitive people. Same with Health and Safety - the government body for H&S even went as far as naming and shaming idiots who took it too far.

      The other problem is that a lot of legitimate complaints about discrimination and harmful behaviour get labelled as "PC" when they are not. Personally I'm more worried about the increasing xenophobia in the UK, which seems to be partly a reaction to the misconception that complaints about discrimination and xenophobia are just "PC" and thus not really harmful or morally dubious.

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    60. Re:what will be more interesting by Gliscameria · · Score: 1

      Who would even replace him if they keep the same format? That poor guy is going to get sooooo much hate. Unless... unless it's a lady.

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    61. Re:what will be more interesting by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      Large segments of society are not on board with the PC, wimpy, constantly-whining-about-bullying-and-____ism that is pervasive in media, especially an institution like BBC. Clarkson is a figure who pushes back at that trend, and many see him as a hero (now perhaps a martyr) for it

      Careful, your persecution complex is showing. The guy was fired for physically assaulting someone. Assault is not considered free speech in any jurisdiction.

    62. Re:what will be more interesting by hey! · · Score: 2

      Sure. But the man verbally abused and bullied a subordinate. Then he physically assaulted him -- or perhaps by that point the physical altercation was mutual.

      At some point you have to ask yourself whether you have your priorities straight. As a fan of the show I'm sorry to the big ape gone. As a fan of civilized behavior I'm happy to see at least a minimum standard of decency in behavior getting enforced.

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    63. Re: what will be more interesting by beh · · Score: 1

      Well, yes, the BBC is a non-profit - but the cash cow argument still stands. Top Gear has been making a lot of money for BBC that the non-profit BBC could then channel back into other productions, right?

      Therefore Top Gear did give the BBC something more to work with, that is now at risk.

      On the other hand - since the BBC is publicly funded, any further Clarkson stunts will also negatively impact BBC's image (apart from in the eyes of the xx million petrol-heads that worship the show.

    64. Re:what will be more interesting by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      The BBC isn't the government but it operates under the rules that the government sets. This means that they are especially careful about what any of their employees say which is why they came down hard on Clarkson for his supposed racist remarks. It was a pre-emptive strike to stave off a possible reaction by the government. I've read some reports about what speech can get you into trouble in the UK and it's pretty amazing when you consider what people get away with in the USA.

    65. Re:what will be more interesting by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      For the most part they weren't even opinions. The last comment that got him into trouble was when they had been filming a segment for a while where Clarkson needed to pick between three (cars, I think) and he choose the 'Eeney Meeney Miney Moe' nursery rhyme only he supposedly used the N word instead of tiger. That was done while they were filming but not in public. So it was bad form and certainly something not to be proud of but not anything like an assault and not something that was clearly racist. More like Clarkson being bored and trying to be funny.

    66. Re:what will be more interesting by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone that yells for 20 minutes and physically assaults someone over cold food can complain about other people whining anymore.

    67. Re:what will be more interesting by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I actually enjoyed some of Top Gear but yes no matter how important you are or how much money you make it is not okay to hit someone except in self defence or the defence of someone else.
      Frankly the fans of Clarkston are the ones that annoy me the most. Why do they put up and even support a rich adult man that is acting in a way that would be considered inappropriate for a 3 year old.

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    68. Re:what will be more interesting by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is your entertainment more important than someone being assaulted?

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    69. Re:what will be more interesting by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Two wrongs....

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    70. Re:what will be more interesting by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Mine is.
      Have you ever watched a boxing match?

    71. Re:what will be more interesting by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Would you expect the same thing if it happened after hours? The argument was over the preparation of his dinner, not his lunch, so it was after hours.

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    72. Re:what will be more interesting by MrL0G1C · · Score: 1

      I not a Clarkson fan, I just watched that and it sounds like he says "uh nuh nuh nuh by the toe". It doesn't sound like 'nigger' at all.

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    73. Re: what will be more interesting by chentiangemalc · · Score: 1

      Yup but this is not Hollywood. in Hollywood probably the producer would be fired "whaaaat you couldn't get our star a hot meal..."

    74. Re:what will be more interesting by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine saw them record one of their "races" in the alps. Some big trucks arrived with supercars on them, they were carefully offloaded, they drove them up a few hundred meters, then they loaded them all back onto the trucks for the next shoot. On air, that was a neck and neck race between the three of them.

    75. Re:what will be more interesting by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Actually he assaulted his Boss or at least one of several Bosses, and He's also publically stated that people should lay off the Producers, because he punched his Boss in the face.

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    76. Re:what will be more interesting by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      I thought about that the other day. Not having plan B in their back pocket? All shows must come to an end - whether it be retirement or "ran long enough."

      This is like not having a second datacenter - and no backup tape. Shit out of business.

    77. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Restriction of free speech pertains to government restriction. We don't care what companies / institutions do. The BBC isn't the government.

      It's funded by a fee that's difficult to escape and which you're obligated to pay by default, it's a government institution.

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    78. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's the same as how the US went through a phase of people suing for the most ridiculous reasons before it mostly calmed down to a sensible level. Of course most of those lawsuits were thrown out at the early stages, or if not turned out to have merit (like the infamous McDonald's "hot coffee" incident).

      Uh, what? The McDonald's "hot coffee" incident was decided in favor of the customer. That's the opposite of not having merit. McDonald's served coffee at a temperature above their own published standards, which were set in part because they knew that the cups become inadequate at doing their job when used at those temperatures. The coffee was hot enough to cause substantial burns to the woman's flesh, which is not the case if they follow their own guidelines. The case might have been decided the way you imagine absent those guidelines, but it proved that McDonald's was aware that there was a legitimate danger.

      Care to try again?

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    79. Re: what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      They are not directly tax-funded. Subjects in the UK pay a TV licence (currently about £145, IIRC) that subsidises the organisation in the UK.

      And that fee is mandatory and difficult to escape, even if you don't have a tuner in your house. Which is what makes the BBC a government organization.

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    80. Re:what will be more interesting by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a boxing match.

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    81. Re:what will be more interesting by citizenr · · Score: 1

      it is .. if you are a Corporation!

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    82. Re:what will be more interesting by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      The one great positive to me is that he won't turn up on QI anymore. Love QI but always dread the episodes he was on.

    83. Re:what will be more interesting by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      Or as they like to be called. UKIP voters

    84. Re:what will be more interesting by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      Ummm. Yes. Of course.

    85. Re:what will be more interesting by Kamots · · Score: 1

      Might reread the OP; you're in violent agreement with him that the McDonald's case did have merit.

      "Of course most of those lawsuits were thrown out at the early stages, or if not turned out to have merit (like the infamous McDonald's "hot coffee" incident)."
      can be rephrased as
      "Lawsuits not thrown out at the early stages turned out to have merit (like the infamous McDonald's "hot coffee" incident), however most were, of course, thrown out"

    86. Re:what will be more interesting by quenda · · Score: 1

      Who cares if he said nigger, on or off air? There was no racist context, unlike his Mexican comments.

      As a kid (not in the US), the only time I ever heard or said "nigger" was in that nursery rhyme, until reading Conrad and Twain. Just an archaic word like pickaninny.
      It is kind of funny that some people now find it so taboo outside of any such context. Better not mention the Agatha Christie novel.
      The joke (if you can call it that) is on the taboo word. You may have noticed that comedians like to swear?

    87. Re: what will be more interesting by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      Are you serious ? The BBC forgave him on so many occasions and could not do it on this one. Your statement is totally wrong.

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    88. Re:what will be more interesting by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      We value politeness in the US, too. But it's really a shame the police didn't clear out that whole "Occupy Wall-Street" deal on the first day. They were really, really impolite.

      (sarcasm)

    89. Re:what will be more interesting by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      You can use the N word freely if you're a rap singer of the proper skin color.

    90. Re:what will be more interesting by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It would also have worked out better if he was a winning football coach.

    91. Re: what will be more interesting by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      However, when people refuse to pay the license fee and tell the BBS to fuck off, it doesn't work out so well.

      Think about how it would be if Microsoft charged a 'license fee' to anybody who had a computer in their home. They can't go that far now, (though some claim they do) but think about what it would be like if law enforcement could be called out if you didn't pay your fee to Microsoft for each CPU in your house.

    92. Re:what will be more interesting by mjwx · · Score: 1

      And no , I'm not a particularly clarkson fan - he can be funny but generally the man is an oaf. However there were agendas on both sides in this.

      The agenda against him comes from BBC's new director of television, Danny Cohen.

      Allow me to preface this with the fact I think anyone using the term "leftist" as an insult is a blithering idiot and distrust conservatives as a general rule but if applies to one person, it's Cohen. He's been on a concerted campaign to get rid of people like Clarkson from the BBC and doesn't seem to care what gets harmed in the process. He's implemented a policy at the BBC saying that all panel shows "must" have at least one female presenter and something tells me a token female presenter on Top Gear wouldn't go down too well with him.

      However like you said, there are two sides to this and I think there will be fallout from this for months to come. Clarkson will shortly have no reason not to slag off the BBC and reveal the internal machinations and Clarkson isn't exactly the kind of person to keep his opinions to himself.

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    93. Re:what will be more interesting by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      I know, they should have televised it

    94. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Might reread the OP; you're in violent agreement with him that the McDonald's case did have merit.

      Whoops. You're right, I was wrong, how lame.

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    95. Re:what will be more interesting by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      There's no excuse for this, but as others have said there's a bit more to it. Clarkson may or may not be a primadonna (vs just being a knob, as May referred to him several times), but given the stress he was under and the alcohol, him blowing his top over something small isn't a huge surprise. He certainly deserved to be disciplined, but I'm not sure sacking him outright was the best decision. One thing I am certain of is that the BBC will come to regret it.

      You always sack over violence. If JC is smart he'd pay off that producer big-time not press charges; a couple million quid at least. All indications on JC are otherwise, however; he'll lose a lot more in future income with a GBH conviction than a couple million quid.

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    96. Re:what will be more interesting by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      "Here's the video where he says "nigger" on camera"

      Seems to me you have a good imagination. All I can here is nnnn....nnnnn

    97. Re:what will be more interesting by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      "He's been on a concerted campaign to get rid of people like Clarkson from the BBC"

      Indeed. And given his religious upbringing I smell something more than just a standard guardianista agenda.

      "something tells me a token female presenter on Top Gear wouldn't go down too well with him."

      To be fair they could do a lot worse than put VBH back on. And she'd be a long way from token!

    98. Re:what will be more interesting by Vlado · · Score: 1

      We are talking about couple of different things here:

      1. Assault on a subordinate from a superior within a company. An inexcusable act that got its well deserved summary in the dismissal of the guilty party.

      2. End of the most entertaining car show that I have ever seen.

      The two things are obviously interdependent but saying that point one was done properly doesn't mean that I cannot be sad that point two happened also. In regards to how "fake" the show was or not - who cares. We enjoy Star Wars, Star Trek and loads of other things that are not real and are out of our reach.
      Here I at least got to see how pretty much any supercar, that I will never drive, behaves and looks. I also got to see loads of insane races that were all shot with spectacular camera shots and had fairly weird concept ideas. I doubt I will see anything like it again.

    99. Re:what will be more interesting by dave420 · · Score: 1

      The BBC is not a great example of an average media company in the UK. That fact alone means the rest of your post is not particularly valid. The BBC has special guidelines imposed upon it by its special position. Hell, there are amazing amounts of speech on the BBC that are simply illegal in the US on comparable TV stations, just not slipped in to motoring TV shows in order to simply cause offence.

      And by "PC" you mean "not being a racist/sexist muppet". Those are values certain societies strive to achieve, which is definitely admirable in itself.

    100. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Is your entertainment more important than someone being assaulted?

      You mean battered. Just threatening someone is assault.

      I think a lot of people would benefit from a pop in the nose. And I say that as someone who was bullied in school. Namely, some of those bullies could have used a good socking-up, for some perspective.

      We don't know what was said. It's easy to say that violence is never an acceptable answer to something that someone says... But if that's true, then it's equally never acceptable to say something hurtful to someone, because words can hurt more and longer than fists depending on how they are applied.

      I'll worry about Clarkson being violent when I find out what was said, and not until.

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    101. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Realistically though, How could the BBC have resolved this any other way?

      The way most stars are handled when they act out, you put them into counseling, make them make a public apology, that sort of thing. And that's why the BBC is stupid for being all PC over things Clarkson has said in the past. They gave him final warnings over things which didn't deserve any warning, now this happened and they had no choice but to go straight to firing him.

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    102. Re:what will be more interesting by SomeoneFromBelgium · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know about everyboldy else. But in my case this is certainly false.

      I love top gear and Jeremy Clarckson is the heart of it. That being said it was clear to me that he was an asshole and that the success of the show had only made it worse.

      One should separate fact and fiction. The presenter from the human being: presenter: suberb, definitely has 'it'; human being: is he really??

    103. Re:what will be more interesting by SomeoneFromBelgium · · Score: 1

      but the BBC should have stepped in and provided him with a chance to see a therapist and get some help

      What makes you think that the BBC or anybody else can tell Jeremy Clarkson what to do?

      All jokes aside: people who mess up their life (if all this information is actually correct) and then start on other people's lives must be stopped. Immediately.

    104. Re:what will be more interesting by dave420 · · Score: 1

      He had plenty of chance to see a therapist - you can get therapy for free from the NHS, not that he can't afford one himself. If he didn't want to see a therapist, then that's his fault as well.

    105. Re:what will be more interesting by dave420 · · Score: 1

      This was not the first time he got in trouble with the BBC, however. They've given him chance after chance after chance to stop screwing things up, then he hits someone because he can't get steak and chips.

    106. Re:what will be more interesting by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You are ok with your company dictating what you can and cannot do after hours/off the clock? So you are saying it is ok if your company has a rule that you can't drink? At all?

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    107. Re:what will be more interesting by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      Drinking is not the same thing as assaulting a co-worker.

    108. Re:what will be more interesting by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's funded by a fee that's difficult to escape

      Tell me about it. The other day I tried really really hard and I just couldn't manage to not buy a TV.

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    109. Re:what will be more interesting by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So if I work night shifts I'm allowed to beat people up over breakfast?

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    110. Re:what will be more interesting by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If it happens outside the office and while you are not on the clock (or even during those periods...) it is the province of the police, not your office.

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    111. Re:what will be more interesting by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. The other day I tried really really hard and I just couldn't manage to not buy a TV.

      The default is to charge you the fee whether you have a tuner in your household or not. This may be less ridiculous now that they provide a lot of other services, but it was also true back when they didn't.

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    112. Re:what will be more interesting by Evtim · · Score: 1

      Yhea, right!

      And that is why this show is watched by many people who don't even own a car (me, for instance).

      Also, do you know who introduced me to the show? My wife! That's right! Somehow, the obnoxious, sexist, racist Clarkson drew the largest female audience of a car show in the world. Meditate on this you should....

      People without imagination and scene of humor are always offended by those who do....

    113. Re:what will be more interesting by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Are people really going to miss yet another totally fake show pretending to be reality? Is it just because this one combined cars and Daily Mail-style politics?

      I'm going to miss it because it was fucking entertaining. It was irreverent (except to certain classic cars), it was happy to mock everybody, it gave a voice to the idiot within me. It had cars that cost more than my lifetime earnings and the camera work of dreams.

      Sorry, but I have no sympathy for a primadonna for whom curses at an employee for 20 minutes and then physically assaults him up for half a minute

      Me either, but I'll still very much miss the tv programme.

    114. Re:what will be more interesting by Cederic · · Score: 1

      If my company was providing me with accommodation, food and a 20 hour working day, and I was on a final warning, and then I hit the colleague providing me with the food as part of his job?

      Yes, I'm very ok with the company taking a dim view on that.

      Are you really suggesting this is acceptable behaviour?

    115. Re:what will be more interesting by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Sorry but the jokes about prostitutes, Mexicans, cheese-eating surrender monkeys and bridges with their ends at different heights should not be disciplinary offences.

      Shit, I've heard Ben Elton make cunt jokes on the BBC, but he's a lefty darling so nobody sacked him for it. Clarkson employs similarly edgy humour to entertain and I'm fucked off with the PC brigade that caused him so much shit about it all.

      Learn to take a fucking joke.

      Incidentally, which n-word? November? Nostril? 'Nuh nuh' as someone below has commented? Whichever one you're referring to, you do realise that Clarkson himself reviewed that tape and requested that it wasn't broadcast. Hardly the act of a man intent on inciting racial hatred is it.

      You can bet that if the producer had punched Clarkson there wouldn't be all this fuss with people endlessly making excuses for him.

      No, they'd be congratulating him, wishing they'd had the chance, putting him forward for the honours list.

    116. Re:what will be more interesting by Cederic · · Score: 1

      For the money? BBC will not loose any money for the lack of advertisement. So what other reasons could there be?

      Maybe the extensive international sales that pay for the filming, pay for the trips, pay the wages of everybody involved including Clarkson himself.

      The BBC just took a massive financial hit by choosing not to renew his contract. It's the right decision, but don't go pretending that it hasn't hurt them.

      Remeber what he did in Argentina?

      No, what did he do in Argentina? I mean, other than admire the stunning scenery and drive a car around?

      People in Argentina bleat on about other shit, but they're talking total nonsense - much like their comments on the Falklands.

    117. Re:what will be more interesting by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Other staff members at the BBC win. They know that their safety and working conditions matter more to the BBC than the bottom line.

      Which is appropriate.

    118. Re:what will be more interesting by romons · · Score: 1

      I don't really care that he is a pompous asshat. What i care about in that show is that its funny. The interactions between the three hosts are great. The fact that Clarkson is off the show means i'll no longer watch it because the chemistry between the three is what drove the show.

      Agreed. Seeing Hammond do science channel specials is really quite boring. May had a couple of shows that were mildly entertaining (the wine tours, and 'manlab') but nothing like TopGear.

      I'm sad it will soon be gone. I enjoyed "the three stooges" quite a lot, particularly the road trips. I'm sure they could keep those up on their own if they wanted to. Not sure who would produce them, however.

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    119. Re:what will be more interesting by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't think TG is produced in an office. Also, your concept of on and off the clock doesn't apply either.

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    120. Re:what will be more interesting by Kartu · · Score: 1

      Uh, no, McDonald's had NOT "served coffee at a temperature above their own published standards".
      It was within their (and national coffee association's),standards and in fact McDonalds continues to serve coffee at 80–90 C (176–194 F).
      Coffee served to Liebeck was within 80–190 F (82–88 C).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

    121. Re: what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "Top Gear has been making a lot of money for BBC that the non-profit BBC could then channel back into other productions, right?"

      That's not how it works, unfortunately.

      The TV license goes 100% to the BBC, who don't have to do much justification about how they spend it - and revenue collection is done by a fully owned BBC subsidiary (TV licensing Ltd), which in turn farms the actual work out to a debt collection company (Capita) and works on the assumption that every household has a TV, so any address which doesn't have a license must be watching TV illegally.

      I've been getting their threatening letters for 12 years despite having a license - because my address is doubled up. It's fun to see how fast their "inspectors" can run when you point a camera at them and follow them down the street.

    122. Re: what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      BBC worldwide makes enough profit that the "tv license" in the UK is superfluous. They don't have to account for where that money goes and they don't.

    123. Re: what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      > "Not for profit" does not mean the company cannot hold a surplus of funds between each year. It means it cannot pay "profits"

      This restriction doesn't put any restriction on paying utterly obscene amounts to various staff. The same applies to UK charities.

      This results in people who hardly do any work getting six-figure (UK) take home pay (and is one of the reasons that the UK decided that "speed^H^H^H^H^Hsafety camera partnerships" could no longer keep the money they collected, as the amounts in question became more widely known)

    124. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mot...

      Shock Jocks and Faux News are on privately funded, privately run radio stations, not on TV stations funded by money forcibly extracted from the viewers.

      I think even Howard Stern would draw the line at some of the comments Clarkson has made.

    125. Re: what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Without confirmation it's hard to be sure, but the current version of events is that hot meals _were_ arranged, but Clarkson held the entire crew up for several hours - which resulted in them getting back to the hotel so late the chefs had clocked off.

    126. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      7: Called a Burmese man a "slope" (casual racism) - http://www.theguardian.com/med...
      8: Described mexicans as ""a lazy, feckless, flatulent oaf with a moustache, leaning against a fence asleep".
      9: Described malaysian cars as being built in the jungle by people wearing sandals.
      10: Deliberately used the word N****r whilst recording a segment (rerecorded it when he realised he wouldn't get away with it)
      11: Drove around India with a toilet seat in the boot of a jaguar as a comment on the sanitation
      12: Drove around the american south with a car spraypainted with comments about rednecks.
      13: Characterised Albania as being full of mafia dons
      14: Did a fair amount of environmental damage in Botswana's Makgadikgadi salt pan
      15: Nazi salutes in a BMW review along with comments that the Satnav only had directions to Poland.
      16: casual racism again: Named his dog Didier Dogba (Black soccer player)
      17: Ranted on prime time national TV (The One Show) that public sector workers who were on strike at the time - "should be executed in front of their families"
      18: Homophobic jokes directed at George Michael (and others, various gay slurs in various programs)

      etc etc etc.

      A good chunk of this has happened in the last 18 months and _no one_ believes the claims about the argentinean number plate being coincidental, as it was registered to a completely different vehicle.

    127. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "He choose the 'Eeney Meeney Miney Moe' nursery rhyme only he supposedly used the N word instead of tiger."

      He not only did it once, he re-recorded it and did it again.

    128. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      What it proves is that Clarkson's media persona is his real persona.

      There's a difference between a comedy act and actually _being_ a Bullying Boorish Bore.

    129. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Except that the Monty Python guys knew it was an act and behaved more-or-less normally when the cameras stopped.

    130. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "The argument was over the preparation of his dinner, not his lunch, so it was after hours."

      Which, if stories are to be believed wasn't available because he spent 2 hours getting pissed instead of showing up at the booked time.

    131. Re:what will be more interesting by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "They had finished filming at 10 or 11pm and the hotel cook staff had already gone home."

      They apparently only finished late because Clarkson held them up - presumably by getting drunk.

    132. Re:what will be more interesting by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      No. I question the ethics of paying people to beat each other for my entertainment.

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    133. Re:what will be more interesting by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      "I'll worry about Clarkson being violent when I find out what was said, and not until."
      If the producer was verbally assaulting him then Clarkson could get him canned in a minute.
      Time to move past school and into the adult world.

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    134. Re:what will be more interesting by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Actually, they finished filming a lot earlier, but Clarkson decided to go drinking for several hours whilst the helicopter waited for him. By the time he returned to the hotel the chef had gone home. It was entirely his own fault.

  4. Boorish by sycodon · · Score: 2

    He is Boorish and bigoted against American vehicles.

    Richard Hammond could carry that show all by himself. James May would be a perk.

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    1. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nobody outside the US likes American vehicles. They would have been state-of-the-art in the rest of the world circa 1975.

    2. Re:Boorish by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, there are quite a few american cars that he has out and out loved on the show - he refused to get out of the Ford GT when he ran it dry (supposedly) on the track, and then bought one. He drove the Lexus LFA across Nevada and loved it. He drove the Shelby Mustang GT5000 across Europe and loved it. He drove the Ford F-150 SVT Raptor across British Columbia and loved it.

      Those are just a few examples from the most recent few series.

      Clarkson is positive about cars he finds he likes, and he is negative about cars he finds he dislikes. Plenty of both of those in the world - see how much he hates Peugeot if you think its a "hate on America" thing...

    3. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, Jeremy Clarkson is funny until you realise he actually means what he says.

      It's a bit like laughing at Saddam when he says "Let's go gas some civilians" assuming he has a dark sense of humour, then only to realise that, no, he actually means it.

      Jeremy Clarkson is easy to replace, there are plenty of celebrities in the UK that do a great job of playing the bitter miserable old Englishman without actually being a bitter miserable old Englishman for real.

      Honestly, a lot of people moaning they wont watch Top Gear because Clarkson is gone, I've tried watching it many a time and he's always the reason I changed the channel when he went off on a xenophobic rant. Now I'll be able to watch it and enjoy it, it's not Clarkson that made the show, it's the fucking cars, that's why you watch it. If it was Clarkson then some of the other shows he's been on would be the best there have been, like a number of quiz shows he's turned up on, but the ones he's in have always been crap episodes.

      Mostly his popularity is just a rallying cry for populist bigots, one of the talking heads put it best - Clarkson was Farage before Farage. Good riddance.

    4. Re:Boorish by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Agreed, the show will be much better without him. He hates EVs too, so they never get to review any of those. No Tesla Model S.

      They could carry on with just two presenters, or get someone like Alan Partridge in to replace him. The most interesting features are always the May and Hammond ones anyway.

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    5. Re:Boorish by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      Actually, there are quite a few american cars that he has out and out loved on the show... He drove the Lexus LFA across Nevada and loved it.

      In what way is the Lexus LFA an American car? It's made by a Japanese company, designed by Japanese engineers and manufactured in Japan.

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    6. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He bought a Ford GT. They rave about the Fiesta.

      It's not so much that he/they don't like American cars, they generally don't like the cars designed and marketed towards Americans. They (like many Europeans) just have different priorities when it comes to what makes for a good car.

    7. Re:Boorish by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder where the rest of the world is putting all of the cars that they ask to have put on huge freighters and shipped overseas? There must be some huge warehouses full of those vehicles. And all of the private exporters who gray-market US cars to destinations all over the planet must be truly perplexed by the money they receive, since no one is actually driving the cars.

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    8. Re:Boorish by Holi · · Score: 1

      Jeremy has been the driving force behind Top Gear since he first joined the show in 1988. The last time he lef the show was cancelled due to losing half it's viewers. If you think Hammond could carry the show or That May could, then why haven't they been able to keep their own shows on the air.

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    9. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Geez, Alan Partridge is a fictional character created by Steve Coogan, you blithering idiot.

    10. Re:Boorish by Holi · · Score: 1

      Really because I think the top rally car right now is a Ford Focus, hey at least that's what Ken Block changed to.

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    11. Re:Boorish by rotaryexpress · · Score: 1

      He is Boorish and bigoted against American vehicles.

      Richard Hammond could carry that show all by himself. James May would be a perk.

      Have you even watched Richard Hammonds stand-alone shows? I love what he does on Top Gear, but not on his own.

    12. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He also called the Ford GT "British", the LFA is Japanese, and he spent most of the GT500 Episode bitching about how cheap the interior was (After spending 10 minutes marvelling at how such an amazing race machine could be priced so low...).

      Although in the previous incarnation of Top Gear, he did have a fondness for big American land yachts, you're right that he did enjoy the Raptor, and he liked the new C7 Corvette Stingray in his newspaper articles, although I can't remember if he said anything about it after Hammond's review or not.

    13. Re:Boorish by Holi · · Score: 2

      The last time Clarkson left Top Gear it was cancelled. So while you may be right, history is not on your side.

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    14. Re:Boorish by kuzb · · Score: 2

      This is true. He's largely down on BMW as well, but when he got to the 2005 M3 he couldn't stop singing the praises.

      All that said, the guy is still a pompous asshat that did deserve to be fired.

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    15. Re:Boorish by rotaryexpress · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are quite a few american cars that he has out and out loved on the show - he refused to get out of the Ford GT when he ran it dry (supposedly) on the track, and then bought one. He drove the Lexus LFA across Nevada and loved it. He drove the Shelby Mustang GT5000 across Europe and loved it. He drove the Ford F-150 SVT Raptor across British Columbia and loved it.

      Those are just a few examples from the most recent few series.

      Clarkson is positive about cars he finds he likes, and he is negative about cars he finds he dislikes. Plenty of both of those in the world - see how much he hates Peugeot if you think its a "hate on America" thing...

      Ummm....
      The Lexus LFA is as Japanese as a car can come now-a-days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

    16. Re:Boorish by Jaime2 · · Score: 2

      Hammond likes American cars - and he likes them for what they are, not just when they pretend to be European cars. He even gave the Dodge Challenger a good review for being a fun to drive muscle car, even though it's not a very good car from a statistics perspective.

    17. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think he's confusing it with the time they drove a trio of muscle cars across Nevada (Clarkson had a Corvette, Hammond a Challenger, and May a Cadillac). By the end they did love all three.

    18. Re:Boorish by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      He is Boorish and bigoted against American vehicles.

      Well, to be objective here (though you might disagree) ... every time I get an American car as a rental I'm forced to conclude the people who design American cars are idiots.

      From the ergonomics of the seating position, to the layout of the controls, to the steering and suspension I find myself thinking "why can't these people buy a Toyota or a Honda and find out how to do this properly".

      I had a Dodge Avenger as a rental a few years back, and it was a terrible car; I hated everything about it. It kept finding ways to annoy me. I recently had a Camry as a rental, and it was exactly what I'd expected it to be.

      I grew up in and live in North America. My father owned nothing but Chevys until he died.

      But I sure as hell wouldn't own one. Because they often seem like they've been designed by a committee of chimps coming off a bender.

      Maybe he's biased against American vehicles because many of them are rubbish.

      I know many many North Americans who won't buy American cars.

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    19. Re:Boorish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Top Gear boys love the Ford Focus. They have been pimping it for years. But it is hard to make fun of a car you love...

    20. Re:Boorish by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, let's not confuse badges with production and design. A Ford Focus is a European car that they brought to the US in limited models to replace the shit pile they had. The Toyota Tundra is an American car, the Chevy Spark is a Korean Car, and the Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe were the exact same car...

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    21. Re:Boorish by Tar-Alcarin · · Score: 1

      "Objective"
      I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    22. Re:Boorish by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Nope, didn't confuse it, just had in my mind that Lexus was the American brand of another well known car manufacturer, and I was wrong - it was the Japanese brand of another well known car manufacturer.

    23. Re:Boorish by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Oh please, American cars technologically are no different than any other cars these days. Ford and GM own a bunch of European brands anyway (like Opel), Ford sells lots of cars in Europe (though different models usually than in the US), and most "American" cars these days are made in Mexico anyway.

      The main problem with American cars these days is styling. They're usually rather ugly. That's a cultural problem, not a technological problem (the styling is designed to appeal to the customers in that market). But to be fair, they're a lot nicer-looking than they were in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

    24. Re:Boorish by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Objective in as much as I and many people I know have had bad experiences with American made cars and don't like them.

      To get a truly objective position, you find someone who has never seen a car and ask them what they think of both. But they they won't know what the hell they're talking about.

      I'm not un-objective because I dislike American cars. I dislike American cars because, objectively, I don't find them to be as well made or designed as their Japanese and Korean competition. Not by a long shot.

      Maybe you choose to like American cars out of a sense of patriotism. That makes you even less objective than me.

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    25. Re:Boorish by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How the fuck does that "make me wrong"? Because I didn't specify what nationality the "well known car manufacturer" was? In what world does your post contradict my post? It adds information (that Lexus is a brand of Toyota, a Japanese car manufacturer), but it doesnt negate any of the information in my post.

      Or are you one of these people who always has to show that someone is "wrong", somehow, in some way?

    26. Re:Boorish by Tar-Alcarin · · Score: 1

      I have not made mention of car preferences, one way or another.
      I'm just trying to tell you, objective does not mean what you seem to think it means.
      If you don't want to educate yourself with regards to that, fine.

    27. Re:Boorish by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Lexus is a Japanese brand. The LFA is built in Japan.

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    28. Re:Boorish by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I think they like Fords and possibly a crazy car every now and then.

      But isn't the case that the American ones have been strong and cheap whereas the Italian ones cost more but is also technically superior? Isn't it about how they drive and not just how much power they got? (Damnit Jeremy ..), no hate against Nissan and Mitsubishi as far as driving goes I assume?

      Sure he/they may throw in a friendly dismissal of US or Germany ... or Mexico on the ground of what country it is but whatever.

      Also the whole show isn't all that serious. If you want a serious consumer show about cars Top gear may not be it.

      If you want one of the best entertainments there is with a British and car theme then it is.

      Where I've seen Richard Hammond beyond Top Gear he's just been boring.

      James MayÂs other shows I've seen has been interesting / in the nerd line he's got going in Top gear and I like those.

      But who carries Top gear is Clarkson. He's no #1 and the other two are very close but still by-standards in comparison.

    29. Re:Boorish by sycodon · · Score: 2

      In Europe, straight lines are hard to come by. You're likely to end up in an ocean if you're not careful.

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    30. Re:Boorish by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      I can see a fair amount of criticism leveled against American cars but to say they ought to learn from Toyota or Honda is just laughable. A Camry? Really?

      If American automobile manufacturers want to take some hints from their foreign competitors I'd hope they do so from the Germans rather than the Japanese. Your comment about seat position and control layout make me think you're short -- Japanese cars tend to be more comfortable for short people compared to American and European cars. Regarding steering and suspension, I don't think you know much about steering and suspension if you think a Camry is ideal.

      Most American cars are rubbish, I agree with that. But so are most Japanese cars.

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    31. Re:Boorish by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      My first two cars were American (A Chrysler and a Ford). Then I bought my first Japanese car (A Subaru). It outlasted both American cars combined, twice over, and then some.

      So yeah, in my own experience as well, American cars are rubbish. Going forward, if the VIN doesn't start with the letter "J", I want no part of the thing.

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    32. Re:Boorish by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      He is Boorish and bigoted against American vehicles.

      Richard Hammond could carry that show all by himself. James May would be a perk.

      Clarkson likes some Fords and likes the most recent Corvettes.

      He doesn't like American cars because he's British, don't take it personally. The British assume they invented the world and that it revolves around them. Probably something about having once been a big empire, dunno.

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    33. Re:Boorish by doug · · Score: 1

      I would have sworn that my ZX5 was built in North America. A google search says that it would have been built in Mexico, which I'm fairly certain is not part of Europe. It was an awesome little car and I only got rid of it 'cause a 20 something idiot didn't know to drive slower in icy conditions and totaled it. Anyone saying that the only good Focuses were built in Europe is uninformed. Or perhaps stupid. It is hard to tell those two apart on the internet.

    34. Re:Boorish by doug · · Score: 1

      I understand. I like zippy little cars. I wouldn't touch American cars for a while, but I did like the Focus from a decade ago. I think Ford is less bad that it used to be, and occasionally does well. That said, I now drive a Honda.

    35. Re:Boorish by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      What models of American cars are exported? Ford/Chevy have separate divisions and make completely different models for Europe. I'd buy a European made Ford long before an American.

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    36. Re:Boorish by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Ken Block's Focus is so modified you could put any body shell over the frame. It's rated for like 600hp. Like comparing your Monty Carlo to a NASCAR.

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    37. Re:Boorish by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 1

      The Chinese love American cars. Last year both GM and Ford had double digit sales increases there. For GM at least, the largest market is China, not the US.

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    38. Re:Boorish by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 1

      Or are you one of these people who always has to show that someone is "wrong", somehow, in some way?

      Welcome to SlashDot^W the Internet!

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    39. Re:Boorish by ScentCone · · Score: 1
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    40. Re:Boorish by Painted · · Score: 1

      350 million people disagree with you. /shrug.

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    41. Re:Boorish by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      What models of American cars are exported? Ford/Chevy have separate divisions and make completely different models for Europe. I'd buy a European made Ford long before an American.

      They sell large overcompensating cars to places like Saudi Arabia and China.

    42. Re:Boorish by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Well, to be objective here (though you might disagree) ... every time I get an American car as a rental I'm forced to conclude the people who design American cars are idiots.

      It's not just you. Watch any car review show, there are many to choose from and you can watch pretty much all of them on Youtube. The presenters will always talk about how much better the fit and finish are in the kraut cans, and will always talk about how they are a much "nicer place to be" than their American rivals.

      People don't understand how to watch reviews. Reviewers who aren't nice don't get to do reviews, so you have to mentally turn down the nice on every statement. If they say that something is quality, then it could be a lot better. If they say it's better than the competition, then you know it's that.

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    43. Re:Boorish by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The Chinese love Buicks. It's a weird cultural thing. And it has it's roots in the quirky fact that when the Communist Party took power, they commandeered the Emperor's car, which was a Buick, and it became Zhou Enlai's car, which was a big deal.

      The whole reason GM didn't kill Buick was because of how strong a brand it was in China. Pity, too, because only prigs drive a Buick in the US, it's a long tradition. The only consolation is that they at least killed Pontiac.

    44. Re:Boorish by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Now we just need to get all the pompous asshats with Beemers fired. There really is a 1:1 correlation.

    45. Re:Boorish by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Lexus is a Japanese brand. The LFA is built in Japan.

      The perception that Lexus is an American brand is because that's how it started.

      Toyota created the Lexus brand to get around the whole "jap-crap" sentiment in America in the 80's and it worked. The reason Lexus hasn't enjoyed the same rise in Europe and Asia is because people there had no issues accepting that Toyota's were quality. You should see the Toyota's you get in Japan like the Mark X, as good as a Lexus but missing the badge.

      Its the same with Infiniti and Acura.

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    46. Re:Boorish by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      350 million people disagree with you. /shrug.

      More than that believe you follow the wrong religion. Number of believers have nothing to do with anything.

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    47. Re:Boorish by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I'm just saying my wife had an older 2001 Focus where the engine gernaded... Seems to be a common problem around 80-120k miles for one of the two engine options. The valve seats crack and then decide to fall out, rattle around in the pistons, and then make your car a worthless pile of steel. The new one is a whole different animal. I'm just glad to see the RS is finally coming to the US, though I'll probably just stick with the ST I have...

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    48. Re:Boorish by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Oh please, American cars technologically are no different than any other cars these days.

      On average, that's false.

      The main problem with American cars these days is styling.

      No, the main problem with American cars these days is build quality, just like always. UAW simply doesn't do as good a job as the non-union workers at the Japanese plants. Whether that's because higher per-hour labor costs make it impossible to pay them enough to torque fasteners correctly, which is a thing they seem to have trouble with, or just because they're shiftless layabouts without work ethic, the truth is that American cars tend to be assembled like shit.

      If I want a car assembled correctly, I buy one which was put together in Germany or Japan, or second choice, by a Japanese company operating its own plant in the USA.

      Only the top-end American cars are built from the same basic design strategies as euro cars... well, maybe and the Fiesta and Focus.

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    49. Re:Boorish by dave420 · · Score: 1

      He seemed to like the Fords produced in Europe, which do seem to (or at least used to) be higher quality than their American counterparts...

    50. Re:Boorish by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      True.

      I vaguely recall him saying a recent hopped up mustang was fun, not that he thought it was 'good'. Hammond was drooling tho.

      lol.

      Man I'm gonna miss that show. Good thing I've got them all.

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    51. Re:Boorish by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No, the main problem with American cars these days is build quality, just like always. UAW simply doesn't do as good a job as the non-union workers at the Japanese plants.

      WTF are you talking about? All those workers at the Ford plants in Mexico are not part of UAW.

      If I want a car assembled correctly, I buy one which was put together in Germany

      You mean like all those VWs built in Mexico? You can probably get an Audi or Mercedes or BMW built in Germany, but if you're looking at something cheaper, it's made in Mexico.

    52. Re:Boorish by bungo · · Score: 1

      Actually, to be very pedantic, it was originally the American high end brand for Toyota.

      Toyota wanted to create an up market brand that didn't have the cheap Japanese car legacy that Toyota and other Japanese manufactures suffered from. Toyota launched Lexus, in think initially in the US, and they brought it to other markets.

      In Japan, the high-end Lexus cars were sold as Toyotas. Lexus didn't appear in Japan until quite a while after it was going well globally. In the late 90's or early 2000's, I think.

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    53. Re:Boorish by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Reviewers who aren't nice don't get to do reviews

      Except on Top Gear. Sadly.

    54. Re:Boorish by toddestan · · Score: 1

      If anything, I've found he seems to automatically hates Korean cars, though maybe that's changed as I haven't watched the show in a while.

    55. Re:Boorish by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If I want a car assembled correctly, I buy one which was put together in Germany

      You mean like all those VWs built in Mexico?

      No, completely unlike those VWs built in Mexico, which are built like shit. The only thing more embarrassing to my heritage than how shit UAW puts together cars is how shit Mexico puts together cars. It's interesting that you mention Volkswagen because Mexicans are known to be particularly bad at that. When VW brought USDM Golf production to Mexico, reliability plummeted. When they took production back to Wolfsberg, it came right back up to the German standards that we know and love.

      Anyone who buys a VW built in Mexico is a moron. All of my imports to date have been built in their designing nation, and came over here on a boat fully assembled. Started with imports with a 240SX, then I had an Impreza GC5, couple of 300SDs (still have one) and an A8. That last has electrical problems but the mechanicals are good, anyway. And there's the rub with VW; their electrical is a bit garbage, even out of Germany.

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    56. Re:Boorish by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I'll be sure to avoid Mexican-made VWs then; I had suspected that. But as for taking production back to Wolfsberg, last I checked there were still lots of VWs made in Mexico.

      I tend to hang onto my cars for a long time; so far I've had a Japanese-built Acura which was bulletproof, and now I have a Belgian-made Volvo which seems pretty bulletproof too (even though Belgium is not where it was designed.

    57. Re:Boorish by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      But as for taking production back to Wolfsberg, last I checked there were still lots of VWs made in Mexico.

      Right. Don't buy them. They specifically moved the Golf back to Wolfsberg. Be careful, though, because I think they moved it back to Mexico more recently. You can get e.g. a "VAG VIN Decoder" app for Android, or just memorize which place in the VIN to look at and a handful of plant codes. Then you'll know precisely where the vehicle was produced.

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  5. Re:Aww poor baby by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, because their star with an over-inflated ego physically assaulted a coworker and drew blood. Nobody should have to put up with that. That being said I'll miss him as he was a fairly unique personality in tv.

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  6. He put his colleague in A&E over a dispute about hot vs cold food. The BBC did the only thing they could have.

    Top Gear works because of the chemistry between the presenters, not because of any one person –this could be good for the series, as their schtick was getting a bit tired and repetitive, in my opinion.

    I’m sure lots of us will be interested to see what the BBC, with or without Hammond & May, can do with the show next.

    1. Re:Good by eepok · · Score: 1

      No he didn't. His colleague got a bloody lip and went to A&E just in case and to record the injury officially. There's a big difference between "an automobile collision sent 3 men to the emergency room" and "An automobile collision happened. The three men involved took themselves to the doctor afterward."

  7. BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Fact is BBC are getting dragged over the coals for letting all kinds of behavior from past stars go unchecked in order to keep the money flowing, including pedophiles. While I love Top Gear and will be sad to see its demise apparently he put the producer in hospital. Even if that is not true what is not in dispute is that he physically assaulted another person and some lines cannot be crossed no matter who you are or what you bring in. My anger in this case is not with the BBC, but with Clarkson himself. As far as I am concerned he killed Top Gear and no-one else.

    1. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      Are you familiar with the term "The straw that broke the camels back"? It is tied to the notion that one seemingly insignificant event caused a catastrophic result. The BBC and the producers had been riding him for a very long time about being "proper" so as not to offend certain groups. This ran counter to what made him so entertaining. He spoke his mind and said what a lot of us would say if we weren't forced to be proper in mixed company. I didn't agree with half the things he said but I usually found what he said to be humorous. None of us know what transpired in the exchange between Clarkson and the producer but I suspect the producer had been goading him prior to this encounter and Clarkson simply snapped. Clarkson's no saint but he's also not petty and I choose to believe there was something deeper going on that led up to this.

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    2. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Are you familiar with the term "The straw that broke the camels back"? It is tied to the notion that one seemingly insignificant event caused a catastrophic result. The BBC and the producers had been riding him for a very long time about being "proper" so as not to offend certain groups. This ran counter to what made him so entertaining. He spoke his mind and said what a lot of us would say if we weren't forced to be proper in mixed company. I didn't agree with half the things he said but I usually found what he said to be humorous. None of us know what transpired in the exchange between Clarkson and the producer but I suspect the producer had been goading him prior to this encounter and Clarkson simply snapped. Clarkson's no saint but he's also not petty and I choose to believe there was something deeper going on that led up to this.

      Or the person outspoken and abrasive television was even more outspoken and abrasive in person, why assume producer had it coming at all? With the right kind of people you "goad" them simply by being around them long enough.

      It doesn't matter if they're the star of a show or an executive, if you break the rules there's consequences.

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    3. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      As I stated that could be the case as well. I simply choose to believe it was not. As someone who has known more than my fair share of nagging nancy's who's sole purpose in conversing with you is to see how hot under the collar they can get you and the open animosity the network has shown toward Clarkson's past faux pas' I choose to believe they were looking for an opportunity to trip him up and he obliged. You're free to choose what you want to believe as well.

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    4. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      Wow. Because "riding" someone is always a good excuse for them retaliating physically. Clarkson crossed a line. Period. The producer went to the fucking hospital, you moral degenerate.

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    5. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      I said he crossed a line you stupid git. I also said he was under intense pressure for an extended period and that resulted in his ultimate action. you are the only one here condoning immoral behavior.

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    6. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Evidence seems to indicate it for one. If he's such a horrible person, why is that he self reported the incident? Somebody who is horrible enough that simply being around them is enough to "goad" them, doesn't seem like the sort that would later take a step back and go "hmmm, that was really stupid of me. I should notify that this event happened". They'd more likely not see any issue with what they did and just carry on.

      It could also be that they he it would get reported anyway and wanted to get his version in first, he may have even thought they were in the right.

      When I heard of this my thought was of Jion Ghomeshi, a CBC radio host who is being charged with multiple sexual assaults for a long pattern of behaviour. Before things broke the thing that got him fired was him showing a video to management with the belief that it would clear him, instead management realized the stuff on the video was sexual assault and fired him.

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    7. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      FFS! The insignificant event was the cold food. The assault was the catastrophic result. It's constant incessant imbecilic exchanges like this that likely led to his meltdown.

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    8. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Fact is BBC are getting dragged over the coals for letting all kinds of behavior from past stars go unchecked in order to keep the money flowing, including pedophiles.

      So they cracked down on a shot to the jaw as a response to being soft on pedophilia?

      Even if that is not true what is not in dispute is that he physically assaulted another person and some lines cannot be crossed no matter who you are or what you bring in.

      Nobody really believes that "no excuse for violence" canard, do they? The world certainly isn't run that way.

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    9. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Even if that is not true what is not in dispute is that he physically assaulted another person and some lines cannot be crossed no matter who you are or what you bring in.

      Nobody really believes that "no excuse for violence" canard, do they? The world certainly isn't run that way.

      The business world certainly does. You have to be very rich and very powerful to get away with punching a colleague and JC just found out that he's not as powerful as he thought he was. He's like the rest of us - punch colleague, get fired.

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    10. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by dave420 · · Score: 1

      It was the elephant which broke the camel's back. He had warning after warning, then did this. Just another "oh so innocent" racial epithet would have done it. He topped that by punching someone because his dinner wasn't ready.

    11. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Just because many people do something doesn't magically make it OK. There is no excuse for violence when discussing dinner, even if the person who didn't give you dinner when you wanted it called your mother a whore.

    12. Re:BBC not to blame here, Clarkson is by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      Do /. readers truly not get idioms?

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  8. Re:too bad.... but... by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio disagree.

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  9. The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by Dzimas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The BBC is a public broadcaster, funded and owned by mandatory license fees in the UK.Clarkson was on contract to the BBC. Once the organization confirmed that unprovoked verbal and physical abuse had occurred, they had to take action or leave the corporation open to an indefensible lawsuit from the victim. They can't exactly say, "Yeah, get stuffed. We have extensive policies promoting equality and prohibiting harassment and violence in the workplace, but we're ignoring them because the presenter is popular and profitable."

    No doubt Clarkson and pals will make a profitable jump to Netflix or Sky to make a similar motoring comedy show. Meanwhile, the BBC has a chance to reinvent Top Gear with younger presenters and a reinvigorated format (there are only so many new Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Aston Martins that can be driven around a track in a cloud of smoke every week and only so many routes for contrived road trips through war zones in ancient sports cars).

    1. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by dj245 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The BBC is a public broadcaster, funded and owned by mandatory license fees in the UK.Clarkson was on contract to the BBC. Once the organization confirmed that unprovoked verbal and physical abuse had occurred, they had to take action or leave the corporation open to an indefensible lawsuit from the victim. They can't exactly say, "Yeah, get stuffed. We have extensive policies promoting equality and prohibiting harassment and violence in the workplace, but we're ignoring them because the presenter is popular and profitable."

      No doubt Clarkson and pals will make a profitable jump to Netflix or Sky to make a similar motoring comedy show. Meanwhile, the BBC has a chance to reinvent Top Gear with younger presenters and a reinvigorated format (there are only so many new Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Aston Martins that can be driven around a track in a cloud of smoke every week and only so many routes for contrived road trips through war zones in ancient sports cars).

      If I wanted to see everyday cars that real people drive, I would go to a car dealership. Top Gear is the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous of cars. I will never buy a Lambo but that doesn't mean that watching them isn't fun.

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    2. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Meanwhile, the BBC has a chance to reinvent Top Gear with younger presenters and a reinvigorated format (there are only so many new Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Aston Martins that can be driven around a track in a cloud of smoke every week and only so many routes for contrived road trips through war zones in ancient sports cars).

      Have you ever watched any of the spin-off Top Gears, like Top Gear US or Top Gear Australia? They've already tried to "reinvent" the show, multiple times. It's yet to work.

      The simple fact of the matter is that Jeremy Clarkson is the reason people watch Top Gear. Without Clarkson, there's no reason to watch.

      And I agree, the BBC really has no choice, and the blame should be placed on Clarkson for being an idiot. But that doesn't change the fact that losing Clarkson will kill Top Gear. He made the show what it is.

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    3. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by monkeyxpress · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Additionally, one advantage of being a BBC show is that he didn't have any advertisers to offend.

      The most valuable advertisers for a motoring show are always going to be car/automotive companies, and trying to convince them to keep feeding you money is not particularly compatible with slagging off their products, particularly in jest.

      I think he probably took for granted the freedom the BBC actually gave him to speak his mind (about cars). It may turn out that the PC brigade were much more understanding than the world of advertising driven commercial TV. You only have to look at the way the Telegraph shutdown debate about HSBC's (one of their big advertisers) Swiss tax evasion scheme to see what eventually wins out.

    4. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      "the BBC really has no choice, and the blame should be placed on Clarkson for being an idiot. But that doesn't change the fact that losing Clarkson will kill Top Gear. He made the show what it is."

      Sums it up perfectly for me.

      Kill the show. It's lost its edge. Maybe find a new group of guys who work well together on screen and create a new show, but it will have to be different in its own way, else it will be like Top Gear USA or something equally bland and derivative.

    5. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Be fair. Top Gear Germany is a decent show. Because their presenters know how to drive, as opposed to the American ones.

      I can understand the figure skater, he can drive. But the other two are air thieves. Useless idiots who, no doubt, have automatic transmissions in their personal cars.

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    6. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      While you are correct, the question I have is how many pedophiles do they still have on staff that they are covering up for? If you are unaware, Jimmy Savile was a pedophile who hosted a popular children's TV show for the BBC for 40 years. Most of the major figures at BBC were aware that he was a pedophile who used his show to acquire victims.

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    7. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about D Motor? I've never watched it because as an American I only speak American, dammit, but as I understand it it's a completely separate show done by a completely different company.

      Which may be why it's OK.

      Because their presenters know how to drive, as opposed to the American ones.

      Honestly, that's not the problem with the US show. I mean, Captain Slow works.

      No, the problem with the US show is that they removed the Power Laps, car reviews, "star in a reasonably priced car" and news segments, concentrating solely on the stunts. It just doesn't work because you get no sense of the personality of any of the presenters. You don't see them being "normal," you don't see any banter between them, you get no chemistry because they're always out driving cars and doing stupid things. It just doesn't work.

      It also has the side-effect of making the "silent racing car driver" (apparently you can't call the Stig "tamed" in the US) a character that has absolutely no context when he shows up. Why is there suddenly a silent racing car driver driving a random car for them to race against? Oh, and now he's gone, never to show up for the remainder of the episode. Uh, OK, that was sure wacky!

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    8. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      mandatory license fees

      There's nothing mandatory about the licence fee. You're free to stop watching live TV at any time.

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    9. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by lkcl · · Score: 1

      Once the organization confirmed that unprovoked verbal and physical abuse had occurred,

      ... actually... my understanding is that it was *not* unprovoked, but not possibly in the way that involves "direct provocation". james may explained that the team had been out the entire day, since early morning through to extremely late in the evening. by all accounts that would be well beyond a standard working day: without decent food it's fairly safe to conclude that their blood sugar levels and many other indicators would have been pushed well past normal acceptable limits.

        i've seen this happen before (both in myself and in other people). you get tired, then shaky, you feel pretty close to exhaustion, due to lack of sleep and rest your body's building up toxins it can't cope with, you're utterly stressed but are simply too tired even to express that, you can't sleep yet which would be the normal way for your body to recover and clear itself of toxins.... and then someone does something unexpected (or doesn't do something that you know will help, that you were counting on)... it's not *their* fault... but they're just the trigger for an outpouring of quite literally uncontrollable but perfectly forseeable emotion.

        my point is: the BBC should *never* have allowed these circumstances to occur. they should have had a full-time nutritionist on the team, advising them when to take breaks, when the exertion that the team is going through is beyond acceptable levels, what the consequences are and so on. this is a team that's been to some of the most hostile places in the world, so it should be a no-brainer that they'd need an expert consultant on nutrition.

      so expecting someone to work 16 hours without proper food, running them well beyond their physical limits, then firing them as a direct result of them being put under far too much stress and pressure... *that* sounds like a recipe for a lawsuit.

    10. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by _xeno_ · · Score: 2

      Hell, just look at the US version of Top Gear which is on a commercial channel (the History Channel because they ran out of WWII video to show and moved on to "reality" programming). The US version just does stunts. They don't do power laps, they don't do the star in a reasonably priced car, they don't do car reviews, they don't do any car news. (They actually did do the power lap times and the star in a reasonably priced car briefly during the first season, but they've since dropped those segments entirely.)

      Part of the reason is surely due to time constraints: the US show only has 42 minutes to work with due to the 18 minutes of ads it has to fit the hour slot. But given that the closest to a car review they ever did was a blatant Tesla ad (ironically enough) and the show is almost always "brought to you by $CAR_COMPANY," it's fairly safe to say that the US version doesn't want to offend potential advertisers, and the show is horribly watered down due to it.

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    11. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Watch more. Captain slow can actually drive. He just doesn't constantly drive like a moron (like Clarkson).

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    12. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by Dzimas · · Score: 1

      The chef had gone home for the evening, so he was unable to order *steak and chips*. Instead, he was told that only cold sandwiches -- presumably containing nutritional vegetables instead of greasy fried potatoes -- would have to do. And, quite honestly, I fully expect that lunch was provided for the cast and crew.

      I admit that I'm a tad concerned about the build up of toxins that you mention -- are you trying to suggest that the cast wasn't allowed to go to the toilet for the entire day?

    13. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      > Have you ever watched any of the spin-off Top Gears, like Top Gear US or Top Gear
      > Australia? They've already tried to "reinvent" the show, multiple times. It's yet to work.

      > The simple fact of the matter is that Jeremy Clarkson is the reason people watch Top
      > Gear. Without Clarkson, there's no reason to watch.

      I've tried to watch the spinoffs. They are dreadful. To be fair though, I don't think it's *just* Clarkson that makes Top Gear work. I think it's the combination of him, May, and Hammond altogether. They just have a chemistry that makes for some of the most entertaining programming on television and which is unmatched by any of the other random clusters of people that have been thrown together to try to present the spin-offs.

      The most entertaining episodes are not the ones where one on the three presents a car and hands it off to The Stig. The best of the best are, IMO, the specials (Vietnam, Bolivia, Botswana, etc.) where the three of them are thrown together in some awkward situation. Clarkson, May, and Hammond suffering, competing, pranking, complaining, and triumphing together is what really makes the show for me... far more than seeing cars that I will probably never own driven around that airport.

      And I'm pretty sure they all know that they're a package deal as well. Remember when Hammond was injured in that rocket-car crash? Clarkson and May refused to go on with the show until Hammond had recovered and could return so the three of them could be together.

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    14. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      But apparently if you're a rising star BBC newsreader and you BITE a producer, you end up as the BBC Director General. Oh, and when that producer complains, you have him sent to Rwanda.

      http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

      "The bizarre, apparently unprovoked, attack was on senior television journalist Anthony Massey. Thompson's 44-year-old victim suffered clear bite marks through his shirt, and immediately reported the incident.

      Their bosses were so determined to hush up the affair, however, that Massey was promptly sent to Rwanda on a perilous assignment. And Thompson, then a rising star, was allowed to continue his soaring career unhindered."

      Seems a bit of a double standard to me.

    15. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by hey! · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, the BBC has a chance to reinvent Top Gear with younger presenters

      Nailed it. It's like the old saw about the Chinese character for "crisis" being made up of characters for "danger" and "opportunity". No matter what happens now they're going to lose some of their long-term fans. But at some point young people aren't going to be so keen on watching some ancient codger behaving like an ass.

      If they play this right it could become like Dr. Who, with a reboot every few years to bring in fresh blood.

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    16. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      The broadcasting fee is a tax. If your circumstances dictate you should pay it, not paying it is a criminal offense.

    17. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      Seems a bit of a double standard to me.

      Or maybe attitudes towards workplace abuse have changed just a little in the last 27 years?

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    18. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by aphelion_rock · · Score: 1

      Have you ever watched any of the spin-off Top Gears, like Top Gear US or Top Gear Australia?

      We don't need Top Gear Australia - We already have http://www.mightycarmods.com/

    19. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Honestly, that's not the problem with the US show. I mean, Captain Slow works.

      Captain Slow has been to racing school since the series began, and is probably faster than you.

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    20. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      But at some point young people aren't going to be so keen on watching some ancient codger behaving like an ass.

      At what point do you imagine that will be? I think Clarkson's spine would give out long before then.

      Clarkson is amusing precisely because he acts like a child. You think that's not amusing to children?

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    21. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by iserlohn · · Score: 1

      Actually, it is the compound word for crisis, not the character.

    22. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I think he probably took for granted the freedom the BBC actually gave him to speak his mind (about cars). It may turn out that the PC brigade were much more understanding than the world of advertising driven commercial TV.

      I think that a corporate master will let Clarkson speak his mind, because that's a big part of the appeal. Without that, he's not the same guy.

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    23. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, until they turn it into a "household levy" or something because "everyone loves and uses the BBC and they are so awesome omg!!!"

      Daylight robbery.

    24. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Yeah, until they turn it into a "household levy" or something

      Daylight robbery.

      But they haven't. So it's not.

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    25. Re:The BBC doesn't have much latitude here. by dave420 · · Score: 1

      And the circumstances which dictate whether you pay it or not are very straight-forward, and very easy to avoid.

  10. Re:Aww poor baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Great, they're going to completely destroy their cash cow and the enjoyment of the audience because some butthurt C-level trust fund baby got his little feewings hurt.

    I mean, c'mon, you used both in the same sentence!

  11. Re:too bad.... but... by gmack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even if the guy intentionally put his food in the refrigerator, it would not justify flipping out and yelling for 20 minutes, let alone punching the producer in the face.

  12. I'll miss the current show by TigerPlish · · Score: 2

    I'll miss the show as it exists now, and not just because of the cars and the trips and the stunts - I'll miss it because Top Gear UK isn't afraid to call a manufacturer out on a bad car. That's something the US version can't, and won't do -- because in the US, you don't badmouth the very people who give you money in exchange for advertising on your show / magazine.

    It was good while it lasted, and it's remarkable it lasted this long.

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  13. Agreed: Credit where Credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Clarkson is positive about cars he finds he likes, and he is negative about cars he finds he dislikes. Plenty of both of those in the world - see how much he hates Peugeot if you think its a "hate on America" thing..

    Exactly. He's a dick, a bully, and completely deserved to get fired (and don't get me started on what I think of his "fans" who want to excuse his behavior and force the BBC to do the exact wrong thing and keep him on after he put a colleague in the ER while throwing a tantrum over what food was being catered in, so you can probably guess I'm not one of his "supporters"), but he was entertaining, and he shouldn't be condemned for things he didn't do. In my opinon as an American who watched the show, Clarkson wasn't particularly bigoted against Americans or American cars (as the parent noted, there were plenty of American cars he did like). He was funny and amusing, and quite intelligent. A shame he has the emotional intelligence of a child, can't handle his drink, and seems to think it's OK to hospitalize colleagues when he's had a couple doesn't get the food he wants when he wants, because that clearly makes him unfit for emloyment regardless of his on-air talents.

  14. Bummer! by nospam007 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are they hiring a new racist then?

    1. Re:Bummer! by Ziggitz · · Score: 2

      I remember when that word used to mean something other than telling an off color joke.

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  15. Re:Aww poor baby by Holi · · Score: 1, Informative

    No I am pretty sure they make more money off Top Gear being a worldwide success then they do off the British TV tax.

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  16. Re:too bad.... but... by Captain+Hook · · Score: 4, Informative

    For eg., what was his reason for serving cold food?

    Top Gear had hired most of a small hotel for a filming shoot. The shoot went on longer than expected and when they got back to the hotel they found the kitchen was closed. Not exactly unexpectedly since the kitchen open hours were stated.

    So the idea that this was somehow a conspiracy by the producer to get Clarkson fired seems like a stretch unless you think he deliberately delayed the shoot so they would get back after the kitchen was closed.

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  17. You can't hit people at work by speedlaw · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Moron. Won't change a thing here. Cut the cable cord a while back, Hulu for back episodes, and non usian web sites for the current season. The Stig-The Stig The Snob-to be replaced The Bloke-Hammond The Bard-May Reboot with another Snob. I can only imagine what his real snob position as real or faker is in the brit class system. Here in the US we don't pick up on that fine gradation.

  18. Re:too bad.... but... by gnupun · · Score: 1

    Right, so you wouldn't punch a guy who called your mom, or someone close to you, a whore? We have to know exactly all those things that provoked Jeremy to punch this guy instead of rushing to a quick and inaccurate judgement.

    Even if the guy intentionally put his food in the refrigerator, it would not justify flipping out and yelling for 20 minutes

    The refrigerator thing would definitely deserve being yelled at, don't you think? Employees have been fired for lesser offences.

  19. Would not have happened this way in the US. by eepok · · Score: 1, Troll

    The UK has much, much lower tolerances for satire and criticism than the US. Check out this list of "screw-ups" that Clarkson made-- all of which contributed to his final release from the BBC. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11137651/Poll-Which-of-Jeremy-Clarksons-gaffes-is-worse.html) Almost all of the "wrongs" done have been issues of him being "rude".

    Drink-driving, July 2008 - The press would like to have you believe that this is was illegal and atrocious. But it wasn't. He was in a customized, polar-ready Toyota Hilux driving to the North Pole over international waters. There were no roads. There were no people on the ice. There were no laws forbidding drinking behind the wheel.

    Lorry drivers, November 2008 - Like many subgroups, Clarkson feigned disdain for truck drivers by describing them as hard-working, but sloppy, porno-obsessed men who murder prostitutes. This fits perfectly in with his "overgrown ignorant man-child" character that he plays on TV.

    Gordon Brown, February 2009 - He called the Prime Minister a "one-eyed Scottish idiot". The PM is blind in one eye. It's disrespectful but does no damage to anyone.

    Black Muslim Lesbians, October 2009 - In an exaggerated protest of diversity efforts within the BBC, Clarkson said that the BBC was obsessed with hiring black, Muslim lesbians. He never implied that it was a bad thing (especially since he's quite fond of lesbians), but was point out the obsession with diversity.

    Burkas and lingerie, July 2010 - During a Top Gear discussion on distractions while driving: “Honestly, the burka doesn’t work. I was in a cab in Piccadilly the other day when a woman in a full burka crossing the road in front of me tripped over the pavement, went head over heels and up it came, red g-string and stockings.” Again, this is a conversation between a few "guys" on an exaggerated comedy show, not Sesame Street. There's no reason for this to be a mark on one's record.

    Special needs, August 2010 - Clarkson referred to a Ferrari as 'special needs' and a 'simpleton' as a way of giving it a bad review. Many people still use the term "retarded" to describe an action today. Some people take offense to it. In the UK, when "some people take offense", it's a scandal.

    Mexico, February 2011 - An actual issue! Clarkson, during a discussion on Top Grear with fellow presenters James May and Richard Hammond, described Mexicans as "a lazy, feckless, flatulent oaf with a moustache, leaning against a fence asleep". This is prejudice and stereotyping of impermutable characteristics and they deserved every bit of flak they got for it... but that's audacity humor for you.

    India, January 2012 - Viewers complained about Clarkson's provocative remarks concerning the country's clothing, trains, food and history. To be fair, they demonstrated the issues with the trains and food, but I don't remember them saying anything critical of their clothing or history. Clarkson put a toilet seat on the back of his car "just in case" he got diarrhea. Ask anyone who has been to India-- this is a genuine concern. I have colleagues *from India* who refuse to drink anything but bottled and will refuse ice when offered (since it's made from tap water).

    The 'N'-word, May 2014 - First off, Clarkson never said the N-word in the purported clip. He never even mumbled it. As he said in his explanation, they had done 3 takes of a scene where he was reciting "Eeny Meeny Miny Mo" where in the old school version would use the term n**ger. In one take, he murmured something to take the place of the word. In the second take, he left the space blank. In the third take, he replaced the word with "teacher". In reviewing the takes, he immediately contacted his production crew and ordered them not to use the first take because if you turn it up REALLY loud, you can convince yourself that the word is being said when it wasn't. (Paul is dead.) YEARS LATER, the video of the unused take resurfaced and somehow became a scandal.

    Slope, July 2014 - Ofcom said

    1. Re:Would not have happened this way in the US. by eepok · · Score: 1

      LOL -- And how exactly is this post, explaining the actual events that led to Clarkson's lack of contract renewal, a trollish post?

      Please tell me who is getting trolled? This is probably the most literally informative post of this article's discussion.

    2. Re:Would not have happened this way in the US. by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Because your explanations are nonsensical. Clarkson created a rude, offensive persona in order to raise his profile and add edge to the show. He's been pushing at the envelope of acceptable behaviour for someone in his position (not a satirist or comedian, simply someone reviewing cars), by making racist jokes and other base attempts to get laughs and stir the pot. Then he goes and hits someone because he couldn't have steak and chips, and gets fired. Then people like you try and explain away his obvious behaviour (cultivating said image) as if it didn't happen or was somehow blown out of proportion (even when JC himself admitted it happened and was wrong). That's what's trollish - your desperate attempt to pervert the truth in order to maintain your crush on JC.

    3. Re:Would not have happened this way in the US. by eepok · · Score: 1

      Wow. You have some serious ignorant rage. You have literally seen none of the purported offenses and it's very, very evident by your post.

      1. There's no denying that he's rude in that post. He does like to stir the pot. Is it wrong to be rude or is a comedian allowed to be rude in the attempt to get laughs?

      2. In no part of the post is there anything attempting to explain away anything-- just a more accurate description of what occurred as evidenced by video, not conjecture and snarling Daily Mail outrage.

      3. The only thing held against him that could possibly be considered racist was the thing about Mexicans and even that isn't literally racist. It was prejudicial and stereotypical. They got in trouble like that as they should have. Even the accusation that he used the N-word is baseless because he never used the word. He mumbled a placeholder sound that, if you trained your ear to hear it, could sound like it. And then they tossed that take. And then someone dug it up years later.

      4. We still don't know if Clarkson actually hit his producer. Read the investigative report. There was a 30-minute drunken verbal assault and then 30 seconds of an "assault". Assault is an attempt or threat to batter (strike or physically harm). You may be happy grunting over your morning coffee at the lack of genuine information, but the law uses specific words for a reason. In NO PART of the document does it say anything about punching, throwing, kicking, etc. 30 seconds is a long time for a person to be throwing punches on someone who does not fight back and for that victim to leave with only a fat lip.

      So, if I take your post as any evidence, that long list of explaining what happened in each of the accused offenses in genuine truth (not shallow, detail-less, outrage mongering), is trolling.

      I gotcha. Thanks for the insight.

      PS -- If you want to disagree with the factual nature of any of the points, then do so by all means. I'll happily go into more detail and support my assertions with external links.

    4. Re:Would not have happened this way in the US. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      No, his explanations are very accurate.

      You're taking umbrage at basic facts. Is that because they don't suit your world view, because you have some irrational hatred of Clarkson or is it because you're an ignorant fuckwit?

  20. Fiesta by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    The Ford Fiesta review was stunning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e7R3y-qwZ0

  21. Let me fix that for you... by Gription · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Jersey is like a Lamborghini Miura from the 70s. Originally awesome even as it breaks down from time to time and slips into decrepit use. It always remained awesome as its lunacy remains. And then one day it (in a prima donna hissyfit?) PUNCHES your plain old Ford Focus of a producer right in the face when he says "You will fill up with this crappy 85 octane out of an old pail even though you are specified to only use 93 octane... And you will like it!". And then everyone came out of the woodwork and starts saying "It wasn't a sensible car" when that was NEVER the point and was why it was wonderful to begin with."


    When they are out on a shoot I would expect a quality hot meal for the camera men and the grips let alone your star presenter!

    1. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's why I don't get this "he hit someone, and done". Even if so, there's very probably enough provocation on the failing there by the Producer alone. It should be noted that if there was a real assault, he'd have been up on charges. No charges, folks...was there enough of an assault there to rate this or is there more going on here?

      This is all BS to jettison Clarkson without having to look lame doing it- and failing all the same.

      The problem is...the show WAS Jeremy followed closely by the others. It was about them doing precisely the silly-assed things they did on the show. Getting rid of him is killing off the show, to be blunt. They've tried to re-spin the show and failed...repeatedly.

    2. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Straif · · Score: 5, Informative

      Clarkson was the one to report the assault so if anyone was looking for an excuse out of re-upping a contract it was probably Clarkson. This way he can leave without carrying any of the baggage simply quitting the show would have given him.

      Jeremy will be fine. He knows that every other channel has been trying for years to poach him away from the BBC and once he sold his interest in the show to the BBC a year or so ago his income was no longer tied to how well Top Gear itself did.

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    3. Re:Let me fix that for you... by postbigbang · · Score: 2

      And there's a future network to avoid like the plague. Here's a violent, nasty hustler, bare on facts (see his madness with the Tesla for a good example), and at most a boor and bore. Oh, right......

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    4. Re:Let me fix that for you... by CodeArtisan · · Score: 5, Informative

      He may be up on charges - it's currently under investigation. Oh, and he was on about his 3rd warning after being disciplined for his racist comments.

    5. Re:Let me fix that for you... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

      Thank you. I was hoping someone was going to mention this.

      It wasn't as if Jeremy hadn't previously been warned and had been put on notice that another serious incident would be the end.

      Being a prima donna and ranting and raving is one thing. Punching someone is quite another. While Jeremy may have unconsciously done this to not have to renew his contract, it's not something one wants to be known for.

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    6. Re:Let me fix that for you... by nanoflower · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Comments that, according to what I heard, may not have happened because it wasn't exactly clear what he said. Also they never went on air with the comments. Lastly the racist remark was in completing a certain nursery rhyme in a way that I'm everyone reading this has done at least once in your mind if not verbally. It's something that can't be avoided when the N word is being mentioned all the time either as something not to be said or as something that comes up all the time in rap and common conversations involving black people (yes, I know it's not supposed to be the same word but it sure sounds the same.)

      I'm not suggesting that racist comments are something that anyone should indulge in whether in public or private, but given the context and Clarkson's tendency to try and be funny on camera I can see him saying it as part of the rhyme knowing that it won't make it on air. At worst someone should have said don't do that, but that he got a warning from the BBC seems overkill to me. It would be entirely different if he did that in front of an audience and not just while recording some set piece that they were probably working on all day long. From what I read they had already filmed the same segment three times so he was probably a bit bored.

    7. Re:Let me fix that for you... by muridae · · Score: 1

      While the racist comments that the BBC might have been upset about (I know nothing on this point) may have been related to a nursery rhyme, his racist and xenophobic comments in various op-ed articles in sundry news papers are not debatable. He's signed his by-line.

    8. Re:Let me fix that for you... by mikaere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even if so, there's very probably enough provocation on the failing there by the Producer alone.

      Bollocks. Instead of turning up at 8pm for dinner at the hotel, Clarkson stayed at the pub drinking. Then he turned up at 10pm, probably pissed, and demanded a hot meal. The cook had already gone home, so Clarkson abused the producer for 20 minutes then assaulted him.

      What an entitled prick who deserves not only sacking, but criminal prosecution.

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    9. Re:Let me fix that for you... by danomac · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that. He's slowly warming up to the electric car. He reviewed one recently and he didn't hate it.

    10. Re:Let me fix that for you... by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      .... and made the BBC over $50 million pounds a year in international licensing agreements.

    11. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The police are looking into the case from what I read. There was enough of an assault for the producer to head to the emergency room. The "provocation" was that the producer had not provided any hot food after the day's shooting. (by producer, lest anyone be confused, I mean the junior guy who works for a living and not an executive producer)

    12. Re:Let me fix that for you... by youngone · · Score: 2

      That is all very interesting, and no doubt true, but as Top Gear runs on BBC which does not accept advertising, and the other channels in the UK are all commercial channels, he will not be free to slag off the various cars they drive, because the advertisers will get upset. That removes about half the fun of the show, and is one of the major weaknesses of the Top Gear US and Top Gear Australia shows I've seen.

    13. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1, Funny

      So, he's the new Automotive Editor for Fox News?

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    14. Re:Let me fix that for you... by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      I disagree with all, and Tesla didn't get a good shake at all, IMHO. Tesla's not god, but they didn't get a fair shake.

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    15. Re: Let me fix that for you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He stated exactly what his results said. It's battery didn't last long on the track. They way they drive it isn't the same way they gauge the battery life. There might have been other issues with that specific car. And yeah, he doesn't like electric cars so he was extra critical. His whole persona is based on those kids of critical responses. I love Teslas but I thought it was a decent piece. Had that whole issue not gone down the way it did, I would have loved to see Jeremy give it another go with all the improvements they've made, added with the fact he's coming around on electric cars kinda. Other car companies have taken the critical response and improved their cars. Musk instead made a big deal about it, but I guess his position in the market wasn't able to take that kind of stuff at the time.

    16. Re:Let me fix that for you... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Makes one wonder if his "sales of share to BBC" deal involved him staying for at least 12 months. Would be good business sense from the BBC's point of view.

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    17. Re:Let me fix that for you... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Well, the BBC was paying for the show to be filmed and paying the salaries of everyone there, and it was being filmed in front of a public audience. Whether it made it to the broadcast means little.

      He also made other racist comments specifically in order to be aired.

    18. Re:Let me fix that for you... by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      Insightful but where is your source. Not that I am disputing your version of events, it is just there is little actual evidence to what precipitated the incident. All I have seen is there was no hot food and Jeremy then assaulted the producer both verbally and physically.

    19. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Cederic · · Score: 2

      That's why I don't get this "he hit someone, and done". Even if so, there's very probably enough provocation on the failing there by the Producer alone.

      You hit someone in the office, you get sacked. Gross misconduct. Gone.

      You hit someone while working in a highly unionised organisation, while on a final warning, you really expect to not get sacked?

      Provocation may be a defence against a legal assault charge, but not against gross misconduct. "Here's a perfectly edible meal freshly prepared and ready for you" is not fucking provocation.

      I loved Top Gear, I had no issues with Jeremy Clarkson's lack of PC but don't go pretending that he didn't fuck up massively on this occasion, or that the BBC had no real choice but to reduce their income by around £50m/year and get rid of him.

    20. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Straif · · Score: 1

      I think this was a contract year for all the Top gear presenters so he would have been free to leave anyway, this just gives him the ability to do so without any bad feelings from his fans.

      True Clarkson fans won't be surprised he over reacted and hit a producer and got himself fired , he's gotten close enough to that several times in the past, but they may have seen it as a betrayal if he just announced out of the blue that he was leaving the show to do something else. As long as the producer that was hit wasn't seriously hurt, which all reports say he wasn't, then fans will write off almost any action by Clarkson as Jeremy being Jeremy.

      I'm not saying this was all planned out in advance but I do think this was one of the best outcomes for Clarkson if he was looking to leave TG.

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    21. Re: Let me fix that for you... by Straif · · Score: 1

      They talk about how much gas super cars use all the time, even sometimes mentioning that they are only capable of x laps before refueling. It's usually just a interesting tidbit they throw in while talking back and forth because it's not a major testing hurdle. Besides track tests watch any of their road trips and it will almost certainly be mentioned if one of their cars requires fueling more often than the others and that's when it only takes less than 5 minutes to refuel and get going again, as opposed to 3.5+ hours for a Tesla (at the time) so it's a MUCH bigger deal if your Tesla run out of juice.

      It becomes a focus of the review simply because it is a major weakness in the design which is true for all pure EVs. If they had a battery swap option then it probably wouldn't have even been brought up except for a one liner about "we had the swap the batteries ever x laps".

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    22. Re:Let me fix that for you... by Straif · · Score: 1

      They will have no shortage of advertisers for a Top Gear like show with Clarkson at the head.

      Car manufacturers may be the primary goto guys for ad space but when a show is watched by 350 million people and pulls in a profit of 40-50 million pounds/year (not that whatever show he starts up, if he does will necessarily pull those numbers) everyone from cell phone companies to children's toys will be clamoring to buy available commercial slots.

      Even a lot of car companies don't view negative reviews on Top Gear as a bad thing. Some use it as a challenge to do better next time and others are just happy to have their cars seen.

      Manufactures like Ferrari, Maclaren, Pagani aren't really going to be spending money on 30 second commercials for a car show anyway but Ford, GM, Honda, Kia etc will and for them having their 8 thousand dollar family car reviewed poorly against a F40 isn't a real showstopper.

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    23. Re:Let me fix that for you... by DedTV · · Score: 2

      He never went on a Michael Richards-esque racist rant or anything. He's a comic in the vein of Lenny Bruce, George Carlin and Richard Pryor. Most people get it. Some don't and some just like to get offended because it allows them to express hate toward others in a way that's not only currently socially acceptable, but often encouraged.
      Being offended gives them a power over others that they could never have if their brand of self righteous hate wasn't as accepted now as racist hate was in the past. That sort of person is absolutely giddy when someone like Jeremy Clarkson get ordered to the back of the bus.

      But inevitably, he doesn't go quietly and meekly to the back, he gets off the bus and drives beside it in a Veyron, revving the engine to redline and laughing at the people offended by the noise.

    24. Re: Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "He stated exactly what his results said. It's battery didn't last long on the track."

      Wrong. They _calculated_ that its battery wouldn't last long on the track and never actually tested that hypothesis.

      Top Gear was an OK car show, but it turned into a blokes' show with cars and then over the last 3-4 years into a mutual ego masturbation session.
      It was kind of inevitable that the circlejerk would end badly.

      The franchised versions are generally more watchable and entertaining.

    25. Re:Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Apart from the stuff which ended up on TV, it wasn't the first time he'd punched someone.

    26. Re:Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "Also they never went on air with the comments."

      I take it you missed the comment about the burmese bloke on the bridge, or the one about mexicans, or the others which were broadcast?

    27. Re:Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Most networks will be looking to avoid him like the plague now:

      There are reports that Clarkson is looking to sue the Beeb for defamation.

      They compared the situation to Jimmy Saville - As in, they let him get away with far too much because he was a cash cow.

      He's claiming they compared him with Saville (who was a kiddy fiddler)

      Well he is like Saville on a couple of points (but not the kiddy fiddling).

      1: He's obnoxious and was getting away with more and more as time went on (until the Saville scandal tore the nice cozy coverup culture apart)
      2: He's a thin skinned bully - able to dish out nastiness but unable to take it when the criticism comes back.

      I'd assumed the TV/media persona was just that - a persona for comedy value. Professional comedians don't react like that when they become the butt of the humour.

      So..... How's about that then?

    28. Re:Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      He can't be charged if the victim won't lay a complaint - and he hasn't.

    29. Re:Let me fix that for you... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      There have been several sources which indicated that the reason they were late back to the hotel is that Clarkson held the crew up.

      The thing is, the entire crew will be under orders to stay quiet or be fired.

      It was Clarkson himself who brought the assault to the BBC's attention, everyone else was keeping their mouths shut as they thought the victim had been sacked and they didn't want to be next.

      The whole story may never be known. The BBC is known for being fairly vindictive when people blab.

  22. New channel by Clawedblue · · Score: 1

    Do you think they'll just hop channels to C4 or even Sky?

  23. Why should we care about those assholes? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    They try to make electric cars look bad any way they can and drool over wasteful, polluting muscle cars that are of use to no one.

    Bunch of idiots.

    1. Re:Why should we care about those assholes? by Twinbee · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm probably a bigger fan of Tesla than you are, but watch this if you think he's against EVs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    2. Re:Why should we care about those assholes? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Actually, Top Gear popularized electric cars for most of the world, by giving them the cachet of "man, that's cool".

      Nice try, though.

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  24. Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The correct headline would be "Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Finally Dismissed by BBC."

    The correct subhead would be "Assault on staff last straw, after insults to Mexico and use of n-word insufficient to force BBC executives to punish their cash cow."

    1. Re:Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by 91degrees · · Score: 2

      He didn't use the "n-word". He mumbed something that could be the n-word if you're primed to hear it that way. In a pice of footage that was never used!

      Seriously, how is this harmful to anyone in any way? The whole thing is so idiotic.

    2. Re:Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

      Gosh, Anonymous Coward, it looks like you understood exactly which word I was referring to, so I suppose my communication was successful.

    3. Re:Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by dave420 · · Score: 1

      He did say it. He admitted it. He chose to say it, knowing full well what a shit-storm it would cause. The problem is it was being paid for by the BBC (regardless of whether it was aired or not), and in front of a public audience. He takes their money, he has to abide by their rules. Simple as. It's harmful to his paymasters because they have an image to uphold, one backed by a royal charter.

    4. Re:Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by dave420 · · Score: 1

      They banged on about Mexico, and then got contacted by the Mexican ambassador who demanded to know why they decided to blurt out clearly untrue, decades-old clichés of lazy poncho-clad Mexicans under sombreros and food which tastes like vomit with cheese. It was quite a famous incident.

    5. Re:Millionaire Celebrity Thug and Bigot Dismissed by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      It wasn't in front of a public audience! It was a bit of unused footage where he just mumbled a word that sounds like "nigger". He chose not to say it but felt it sounded too much like he did. The choice he actually made was to use one of the two other takes because he knew that would cause undue offence and he didn't want to do so.

      The only way this is possibly harmful to anyone is as a result of the Mirror digging up the footage and publishing it, carefully processed and biasing the audience to actually hear it that way.

  25. Elon Musk has the last laugh. by trout007 · · Score: 2

    Probably laughing about this.

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    1. Re:Elon Musk has the last laugh. by Twinbee · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually Elon liked Jeremy's humour in Top Gear.

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    2. Re:Elon Musk has the last laugh. by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Wow, I got 5, funny? Haha, I was being serious - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      About Clarkson: "He can be very funny and irreverent".

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  26. Re:Jeremy Clarkson? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Yes, you are watching the wrong one.

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  27. Exactly ... by Gription · · Score: 1

    Their own on-air commentary on winning an award for being a "factual based" program is priceless.

  28. Re:too bad.... but... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    I've never known a media producer to act in a way which would not provoke a physical attack at some point.

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  29. Re:too bad.... but... by gmack · · Score: 2

    Right, so you wouldn't punch a guy who called your mom, or someone close to you, a whore? We have to know exactly all those things that provoked Jeremy to punch this guy instead of rushing to a quick and inaccurate judgement.

    I really wouldn't. Or at least not now that I'm an adult and have gotten over my teenage anger issues. I may very well tell someone off for name calling or have someone fired but I would not intervene physically unless they either started with physical violence or were doing something to make someone I cared about feel physically in danger (for instance got right in their face/backed them into a corner).

    Even if the guy intentionally put his food in the refrigerator, it would not justify flipping out and yelling for 20 minutes

    The refrigerator thing would definitely deserve being yelled at, don't you think? Employees have been fired for lesser offences.

    It still wouldn't justify a 20 minute screaming tantrum that disrupted the entire hotel. A proportionate response would be to demand the food be heated or file a complaint. A proportionate response could even be to have someone fired (if it were negligent or malicious)

  30. 350 million viewers will miss it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It had 350 million viewers worldwide, the worlds biggest factual program. And a lot of them are viewers because it wasn't that nasty twatty politically correct think where everything is great and all cars are great, and everyone is perfect and twee.

    So you won't miss him, but then 350 million people don't want to watch you.

  31. Re:Jeremy Clarkson? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    Yes, you must, but I'm not sure why. I've heard of those three. Ferrara is an actor who has appeared in one movie of note. Foust is a race car driver of little note, and Wood is a guy that is on Top Gear US. Their attempts to mimic the UK capers fall flat, they had guests on for maybe a season before the guest starts realized it wasn't worth it, even for two bit reality show idiots. The shows are week after week of station wagons and SUVs. I still watch it, but it has nothing on the original.

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  32. The straw the broke the camels back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It was the straw that broke the camels back, only the other straw was fake mock outrage straw.

    Face it, he was targeted by the press, because the show had gotten insanely popular. It was more to do with the twats who think everything needs to be politically correct to their way of thinking, than anything Clarkson did.

    The BBC is not to blame, they have the 'BBC Trust' above them, and that is a political body not a management body, and they are responsible for a corporations that wastes billions making only a few hits. Top Gear was their big hit and surprisingly BBC Trust will be very happy about its demise, because they are put in there to run the Beeb into the ground, then kill the license fee.

  33. Good riddance by WindSword · · Score: 1

    I have nothing but contempt for that arsehole. Hopefully he'll be on Sky where I'll never see him.; wth the added bonus that my TV licence is no lining his pockets. Farewell, you ignorant bully.

  34. Clarkson was Top Gear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I think you either hated Clarkson or loved him. But he did make the show and frankly while I cannot disagree with the BBC's decision because their hands were tied on what action to take because it was physical. I think the end looser will be the BBC. Because we all know Jeremy Clarkson will come out in good shape.
    Maybe it was just time for Clarkson to move on anyway. The BBC seemed to be a thorn in his side becoming to politically correct and not being amused at his sometimes brash comments. The question will be can the BBC manage to keep Hammond and May doing Top Gear and who if anyone will try and replace Clarkson? I will miss the three's connection on screen with each other. But at least we had 22 seasons of Top Gear fun! That's really a big success story.

  35. Bullying by Andy+Smith · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anyone who has been bullied at work must be sickened by the public support for Jeremy Clarkson. Even in sacking him for the physical assault on Top Gear producer Oisin Tymon, BBC director general Tony Hall seemed almost apologetic, taking the opportunity to thank Clarkson for his work on Top Gear and wishing him the best for the future.

    But if you've experienced bullying first hand then you know what a destructive force the Clarksons of the world are. Your workplace becomes a place of dread and fear. The stress becomes not just a part of your daily life, but a part of who you are as a person. It changes you.

    My own experience of being bullied began when I took a job with a company that had just promoted a long-standing employee in to a management position. He had no experience of managing people, he received no training, and he openly said that he didn't want the job. He was visibly stressed almost constantly, and resented that he was still expected to work and not just manage other people's work.

    Very early in the job I was shouted at in the middle of a busy office for completing a task that should have been cancelled. It was a foul-mouthed and very personal tirade of abuse, accusing me of being untrustworthy, and came totally out of the blue. Then my manager realised that he had forgotten to mark the task as cancelled, and quietly in a private room away from other staff, he apologised and promised never to speak to me like that in front of people again.

    The details of bullying incidents are generally repetitive and boring, so suffice to say, this was just the beginning of what became regular abuse: Shouted at in the middle of the office for things I had allegedly done wrong, and then apologised to in private.

    I put up with the abuse for way too long. I'd spoken to my union rep and kept a bullying diary as advised, but I never started a grievance procedure. Colleagues said I should, and one day I ended up talking to the company secretary about it, but I backed off, determined to resolve the issue myself. Ultimately, I told myself, this is a case of two grown men having a clash of personalities, and I should be able to resolve it. But of course I couldn't.

    After about a year I had to take time off work for an unconnected health reason, which seemed to go on a lot longer than one might expect. After a week back at work, I was off again with flu, which seemed to go on forever. My doctor was puzzled and I was sent to the hospital for tests. But in conversation with my doctor one time I mentioned about how it was actually quite nice to be off work because it was an escape from the bullying, and it was as if I'd said the magic word. My doctor was certain that the stress of being bullied was the root cause of my poor health. It explained everything. It turns out that a year of sleepless nights and constant anxiety isn't very good for you.

    The BBC has done the right thing in sacking Clarkson. When I finally had to take formal action against my manager, the company was combative, and handled it on the basis that I was making it all up. I opted for the least "official" form of grievance, third-party arbitration, and my manager held his hands up to what he'd been doing and promised to change. Whether he could or not, I don't know, as I've not been well enough to return to work yet.

    I've watched every episode of Top Gear since Clarkson joined the programme. I like him as a presenter. But I see him now for what he really is: A person who knows how to present himself to the people who control his career -- his bosses and the viewers -- but feels he can abuse the people below him. No doubt he will now be snapped up by another TV channel, or Netflix, and he'll continue to make great programmes that entertain millions. But we know now what he's like behind the scenes, and even a bully that knows he's a bully will still be a bully.

    1. Re:Bullying by WindSword · · Score: 1

      What's a "pair faggot"? Learn some basic punctuation and have the bravery to post onymously, if you're going to flame, you moronic wanker.

    2. Re:Bullying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Good on you for for dealing with that bully. I've been bullied at work too, and I didn't even realise it because the guy who did it to me was a master salesman too, the type who could sell ice to Eskimos. He had me completely convinced it was all my fault. I was so embarrassed I didn't dare talk to others about it. At one point I had enough and I quit the job, without having a new one lined up. Things are currently financially rather difficult, but manageable.

      But considering the effect bullying can have on one's mental and physical health, it's worth taking a financial blow for. My health is improving, I'm actually able to sleep again, I no longer have digestion problems.

      High school bullying was much more obvious: physical violence, which is never reasonable.

      The type of workplace bullying by adults is much more subtle, but just as harmful.

    3. Re:Bullying by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      "I've watched every episode of Top Gear since Clarkson joined the programme. I like him as a presenter. But I see him now for what he really is"

      Seriously, I find Clarkson amusing, but if you are only just now figuring out that he's an arrogant, narcissistic prick, I'm not sure if you really even saw a single episode?

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    4. Re:Bullying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ditto, right down to the health issues. I was not only promised a promotion to management twice and twice revoked, the 2nd time it was taken away, but I was still required to do the work "as I was doing it anyway" with no pay raise AND the VP of my section hired her best friend's husband, who was unemployed, to run the department. Now, I should say that I work in IT. My new boss had a degree in Engineering and had worked in HVAC. He had little experience with IT and tried to run the department like a facilities engineering department. He and I didn't see eye to eye on much of anything and we often came to loggerheads as he was trying to make a name for himself by dismissing everything I was doing. I left 6 months later after I realized how the work environment was affecting my health and my family life. From what I've been told, the department has lost a few good people because of this since I left and the customer relations has gone downhill. I make 50% more where I am and am happier. Guess I got the last laugh...

    5. Re:Bullying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      fuck off, troll

    6. Re:Bullying by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Anyone who has been bullied at work must be sickened by the public support for Jeremy Clarkson.

      It's interesting, the only times I've thrown fists at people, it's because I was being bullied... verbally. Of course, for me this hasn't happened since high school.

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    7. Re:Bullying by dohzer · · Score: 1

      This type of arrogance always seems to attract people. I've never understood why. Good riddance.

  36. Re:Aww poor baby by jareth-0205 · · Score: 5, Informative

    No I am pretty sure they make more money off Top Gear being a worldwide success then they do off the British TV tax.

    You're "pretty sure" are you? You know these sort of mindless random thoughts stated as fact is pretty fucking harmful.

    Top Gear worth per year, about £50million
    Licence fee collected last year, £3726million

    Get a grip.

  37. I have two bets going with PaddyPower.com by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 1

    The new show, on a new channel, will be either called "Jeremy Clarkson's Top Gear" or something meta-descriptive like "New Best Car Show"

    1. Re:I have two bets going with PaddyPower.com by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      The new show, on a new channel, will be either called "Jeremy Clarkson's Top Gear" or something meta-descriptive like "New Best Car Show"

      highest cog
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      three blokes falling down
      captain slow's road show
      so-called top so-called gear

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  38. Re: James Mays gone too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    May's own documentariea are quite enjoyable. I like his Toy Stories and Man Lab. Cars of the People was good too.

  39. Re: That is a wrap then... by jd2112 · · Score: 1

    Dropping something from Comcast? Good luck with that.

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  40. Re:Top Gear is bigger than it's presenters by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure Clarkson 'made the show' like he thinks he did

    Considering Clarkson developed the present format of Top Gear AFTER they had cancelled it due to weak ratings, hen single-handedly pitched and sold the concept to the BBC, created the character of "The Stig" (originally to be called The Git -- since race car drivers are all gits) and brought in Hammond and May and is the central host, key figure and driving personality behind Top Gear... YES Clarkson did quite literally and figuratively 'make the show'.

  41. Re: Aww poor baby by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    It had run it's course anyway. It had gotten too formulaic, especially with the gaffs and accidents and whatnot.

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  42. Re:Ah, the BBC. by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

    Because learning from your mistakes is such a bad thing. Idiot.

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  43. Re:Good bye Top Gear. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    I'm not really read up on what he did that time.

    At first when it happened I saw some other speculation. Supposedly he hasn't been acting the way people may want / politically correct on multiple occasions but whatever.

    To physically hurt people of course isn't ok.
    (Well, maybe not mentally either, but there got to be limits on how much to care too.)

  44. Fun! by sycodon · · Score: 1

    It seems whenever any of them tested an American Muscle car, especially the Mustangs, the entire segment consists of them squealing with pleasure, having a great time and then exiting with great big shit eating grins.

    Then, they get all serious and start whining about the lack of leather dashes and computer controlled, all wheel drive with predictive Fuck Up Mitigators. Oh, and comparing them to Euroweenie cars that cost twice as much.

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  45. Ford GT by sycodon · · Score: 1

    I saw that one. It was a Shelby GT 500.

    He whined about the small gas tank and complained about the engine noise. While he was driving he was making fun of the various information options, etc. It was non-stop snark. When he was on the Ferry across the channel, people flocked to the car and he just stood there wondering why.

    I don't know how much of it was just for the show or if he really feels that way.

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    1. Re:Ford GT by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I don't know how much of it was just for the show or if he really feels that way.

      Maybe the fact he went out and bought one, and imported it into the UK is a small hint?

      Although he's recently commented that it turned out to be a truly shit car to own, and he regrets the purchase. But that's because it was a shit car to own.

  46. Cubs Analogy by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Maybe Jezza finally did go too far, but the Beeb (and BBC America) will deeply rue this decision financially, and the 'victim' will go down in history being about as popular as this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bartman_incident

    1. Re:Cubs Analogy by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      What, you expect that Little England will stop paying the license fee en masse?

      The BBC is not dependent on stars to bring in money. It is publicly funded.

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  47. Some say... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some say he punched an innocent person in the mouth-

    others say he's the cash cow of the BBC-

    But we just know him as... unemployed.

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  48. his karma ran over his dogma by rewindustry · · Score: 1

    clarkson has made a career out of being a dinosaur, and i think he knows it.

    you're welcome in the real world jeremy and i, for one, am interested to see what you will make of your new life.

  49. better idea by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I have an idea. Fire that arrogant asshole producer instead. Who needs him? Jeremy Clarkson IS the show. How did the Chappelle Show do after Dave left? It was a catastrophe.

  50. Take a Ride with Mr. Slowly? by itomato · · Score: 1

    "Watch as James May enjoys the sublime quietude of a Silver Shadow."

  51. The Future of Top Gear: HBO or Film by RandCraw · · Score: 2

    The best outcome for everyone (but the BBC) is for all three hosts to go to another network and set up shop there. Call the new show anyhthing you like. The magic of Top Gear lies in the hosts, not the network. And Lord Knows, not the BBC.

    Top Gear is the most popular TV show in history, with over 350 million viewers worldwide. There is no way in hell the show will fade away. Or the cast. There is no way Clarkson can be replaced, successfully. Fair or not, many viewers would see May and Hammond as traitors. The two will quickly realize they would be insane to stay, especially given their other (much more lucrative) options. So they will go too, probably to rejoin Clarkson at a network of their choosing, where they have *much* better support and artistic freedom. And hot food.

    Clarkson was paid a measly $1.5M/year by the BBC. He can make more money per *episode* at a real network. It's plain from his recent shenanigans that Clarkson has been eager to rewrite his contract with the BBC for some time now. The only question is how soon Hammond and May follow Clarkson's example and head for greener pastures.

    Bet on it.

    1. Re:The Future of Top Gear: HBO or Film by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Sadly, you've completely forgotten one of the most important elements of the show: BBC is commercial free. This gave the hosts incredible range to slag any car they didn't happen to like.

      Try that on a show where just about all of the advertising revenue is coming directly from the auto industry and see what happens.

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  52. Well past its Best Before date by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    Top Gear was enormous fun at first, but it's gotten stale. It's lost its way. Maybe it is time for a re-think.

    Like just about everybody, my picks for a new co-host include Sabine Schmitz and Vicki Butler-Henderson. But they have to look very carefully at the show and decide if its worth continuing first. I'm not convinced it is.

    The original Top Gear production morphed in to Fifth Gear, which is definitely jazzed up fro the old Top Gear it started as.

    ...laura

    1. Re:Well past its Best Before date by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Like just about everybody, my picks for a new co-host include Sabine Schmitz

      Her English is very good, but not good enough.

      But they have to look very carefully at the show and decide if its worth continuing first. I'm not convinced it is.

      You cannot sub out the cast and have the show work. So they shouldn't, but not because it's not worth it, but because they can't do it.

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  53. They were massively underpaying him by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    From what I gathered the show was making 300 million a year annually and they were paying him 1 million a year annually.

    That's an absurd ratio. You're not going to see anything like that in commercial television.

    Clarkson is going to be able to walk into any commercial outfit and get a comparable deal sight unseen.

    I'd personally take a loan out for a million dollars and pay him a year's salary up front knowing that I could get a lot more than a million dollars for him.

    The BBC is apparently run by idiots.

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  54. Popularity is no excuse for bullying or crime by CptJeanLuc · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hate how the media is spinning this, that because 1 million people or whatever want someone back in a TV show, a TV star should somehow be above the set of laws and expected normal social behavior that the rest of us have to deal with. When someone starts hitting co-workers over the lack of warm food, they should get severely reprimanded - why is this even a discussion. The answer is of course because - and I will put this in tabloid terms because that is the only thing that seems to get across these days - of the way media works this day, how everyone now has a voice through the Internet, and the few voices of common sense gets drowned by moronic opinions of idiots. Why should you care about the opinion of a labour law expert when for each such expert ten thousand average Joe's and Jane's have touchy feely opinions that tell them something different.

    The behavior in question seems to be some type of inflated ego syndrome, that people get so full of their own success that they feel petty stuff like following rules and being civil to one another is beneath them, that such things apply only to other people (which by the way includes their fan base). It is always sad to see how someone sympathetic get famous, then are starstruck by themselves, and shortly after enter a downward spiral and discover their dark side.

    It is even sadder to watch the fan base. If the average fan turned away from this type of behavior and actually stopped watching a show for a period if the host has done something particularly offensive, that would send a clear message. Instead the shows probably get higher ratings because of the extra attention.

    1. Re:Popularity is no excuse for bullying or crime by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      I see you're unfamiliar with gear heads.

      Try to avoid European footy matches and rugger and crickets scrums, is my personal advice.

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    2. Re:Popularity is no excuse for bullying or crime by CptJeanLuc · · Score: 1

      Haha - sound advice :-)

      By the way, I really did enjoy Top Gear for a long while, before the concept got too polished and when there was more focus on the content of the program rather than the hosts. Not something a gear head would agree with ...

    3. Re:Popularity is no excuse for bullying or crime by CptJeanLuc · · Score: 1

      Strictly speaking this is true that there are few facts available to us the public, but BBC for sure must have plenty of facts, there must have been lots of witnesses if this happened on a set, and BBC clearly would not let one of their few global stars go unless they saw no other way. I would say those are pretty good indicators.

    4. Re:Popularity is no excuse for bullying or crime by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      BBC clearly would not let one of their few global stars go unless they saw no other way.

      There's probably a lot more that went on behind the scenes to which we are not privy, conversations mostly. They might well have asked Clarkson to make an elaborate apology and he refused, for example.

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  55. Re:Jeremy Clarkson? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    Well, he is known somewhat in Rally, which I will concede, but he is most known for X games and Drifting, which other people may consider racing, but I don't.

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  56. Re:Wow by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    even I think American Top Gear is weak sauce.

    Now Aussie Top Gear, that's alright, mate.

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  57. Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    (scene) We are on a deserted airplane runway in Iceland

    A car races by - with The Stig in it.

    It pulls up to a shiny outdoor hot springs.

    Another car races by.

    It has a dark complexioned youth driving it. He's dressed in tweed and wears glasses. Thin Brit style. He gets out.

    A third car races by.

    It has a young short guy in it. He's done up for a footy game. He gets out.

    A fourth car races by.

    It opens, and the words Top Gear: Mark II appear.

    It's a young British woman of mixed Asian descent.

    The crowd goes wild.

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    1. Re:Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by hey! · · Score: 2

      A fourth car races by.

      It opens, and the words Top Gear: Mark II appear.

      It's a young British woman of mixed Asian descent.

      The crowd goes wild.

      Seriously, an exotic woman driving exotic cars too fast? Who'd watch that?

      I would, because I'm a man and I'm not afraid to admit that on some level I'm a pig. Ideally she'd be smart and funny too, because I don't like to think of myself as being a total pig, but either way I'm in.

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    2. Re:Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      they all have to be funny, but in different ways. Which is why current Top Gear works.

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    3. Re:Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by hey! · · Score: 1

      I'm imagining a kind of competitive tomboy/sibling rivalry thing, with the girl not always winning, but showing she can give as good as she gets. It'd put a "new" (ish) spin on the old Top Gear formula.

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    4. Re:Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm imagining a kind of competitive tomboy/sibling rivalry thing, with the girl not always winning, but showing she can give as good as she gets. It'd put a "new" (ish) spin on the old Top Gear formula.

      What's new about reinventing Fifth Gear? You can watch that already.

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    5. Re:Top Gear: The BBC Whovian Reboot by hey! · · Score: 1

      Not in any services I subscribe to.

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  58. Lets all congratulate Oisin Tymon by vanye · · Score: 1

    For taking one for the team. He single handedly managed to do what India, Argentina, Mexico, the British Labour party couldn't.

    And all he had to do was be incompetent at his job - his job, quite simply is to get the best from the show.

    Congratulations Oison.

    Or should it be Judas ?

    Seriously, I'm torn - I love the show, but obviously the BBC had to fire him. I'm hoping that the boys take their antics to a new channel where they have more freedom to give the viewers the show they want - not what the BBC allows them to do in its pitifully correct public broadcaster role. I don't think that would be ITV or even Sky.

    I'd really like to see them move to Netflix - they have the money and "freedom" to do what they want with less political climate since its not a broadcaster in the traditional sense (public service requirements).

    It might also be an interesting avenue for the the intellectual challenge of "can we do this"... Its never too late to do a start-up...

    1. Re:Lets all congratulate Oisin Tymon by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      "Or should it be Judas ?"

      He doesn't seem to have any say in the matter:

      http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/27/top-gear-producer-oisin-tymon-will-not-press-charges-against-jeremy-clarkson

      I think some care should be taken that the guy doesn't get blamed for killing the show. Oison's triply a victim here. Bashed in the face by an abusive star, accused of killing the show by a rabid fanbase, and will probably be out of a job when the show ends.... hopefully employable.

      +1 for Netflix. I think the show should move on. The BBC has limits and I think they're doing the right thing here.

  59. Re:This isn't news... by Slizzo · · Score: 1

    He wasn't formerly let go until yesterday however. That's when the BBC declined to renew Jeremy's contract.

  60. Re:Jeremy Clarkson? by Cramer · · Score: 1

    Ask a thousand random people who Tanner Foust is. If anything, they'll say "Top Gear host?"; they will be unaware of any of his championships. The areas in which he races are relatively unknown to most people -- hell, most motor sports are; the drivers in those series are even less known.

  61. Re: That is a wrap then... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Two hours on the phone, only to find out you got billed for it three more months. Yeah, that is more likely.

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  62. Re:too bad.... but... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    The refrigerator thing would definitely deserve being yelled at, don't you think? Employees have been fired for lesser offences.

    It still wouldn't justify a 20 minute screaming tantrum that disrupted the entire hotel.

    You're assuming that there were not earlier events which led to this event, and also that the producer didn't say anything to exacerbate the situation.

    Look, violence is not a wonderful answer to something other than violence or impending violence, but the anti-Clarkson force seems to believe that he just got the wind up his arse and started throwing fists. But since none of us were party to the conversation, and none of us know what was said, none of us knows how unreasonable violence was as a response.

    As someone who was bullied in almost every possible way in school, including a whole lot of verbal abuse, I know that verbal abuse can be as painful as the physical kind. In fact, studies have shown that emotional abuse actually causes physical pain responses in the nervous system. That's right, words literally hurt. If the BBC were as progressive as they'll have you believe, they'd fire people for saying mean things to other people. And then it might well have been the producer who was out of a job, before he even got a chance to eat a fist.

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  63. Really? by YuppieScum · · Score: 1

    Consider the source:

    A UK tabloid (which is in direct competition with a tabloid that Clarkson writes for) is quoting one of its ex-editors (who was involved in stock market pump/dump shenanigans and phone hacking) who has an on-going feud with Clarkson (over invasion-of-privacy by Morgan's tabloid, at his direct orders) which resulted in Clarkson punching him (to general applause).

    Morgan, having been sacked from his gigs in the UK, moved to the USA and been sacked there, is now trying to rehabilitate himself back in the UK by sitting in for a breakfast TV host next month.

    I wouldn't trust this man to tell me the time...

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  64. just make it an even punishment by fikx · · Score: 1

    I like the show and think getting rid of him is a bad thing, but don't let him get away with it either.
    How about requiring him to take a punch to the face as his punishment? they could auction it off and make a fortune!
    Just a thought...

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  65. Re:Aww poor baby by mjwx · · Score: 1

    No I am pretty sure they make more money off Top Gear being a worldwide success then they do off the British TV tax.

    You're "pretty sure" are you? You know these sort of mindless random thoughts stated as fact is pretty fucking harmful.

    Top Gear worth per year, about £50million
    Licence fee collected last year, £3726million

    Get a grip.

    Actually Top Gear makes about US$225 Million for BBC Worldwide (which gets funnelled back into the BBC as they're the only shareholder). That's about £150 million or 10% of what BBC worldwide makes. Out of the £5 Billion the BBC makes, it's about 3%. If 3% of your budget goes missing, you're going to notice. In a year, without the hosts the Top Gear brand will be next to worthless and just about anyone could pick it up for 45p.

    But how this is really going to hurt the BBC is when they go to renegotiate their other contracts. Because they've messed around with the delivery of the last few episodes of Top Gear they've lost faith with other networks. Even extremely popular shows like Doctor Who and Strictly Come Dancing (Dancing with the Stars) will be affected, less popular shows like Antiques Roadshow will be decimated.

    I think Danny Cohen is going to be out of a job in 12 months or so.

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  66. bah... by hitmark · · Score: 1

    Good riddance. The show was a throwback to mentality that humanity should have left for dead with the 70s oil crisis.

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  67. Re:Aww poor baby by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

    Isn't that revenue though? Loss of revenue doesn't really count since if you're not making the programme anymore then you won't be spending it, so profit is the thing they will lose.

    Good point about screwing with the delivery, though I would assume that the BBC is big enough and has a solid enough reputation that this would be a 'blip' rather than a noticable loss of confidence.

  68. Re:Aww poor baby by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Good point about screwing with the delivery, though I would assume that the BBC is big enough and has a solid enough reputation that this would be a 'blip' rather than a noticable loss of confidence.

    You're forgetting that Top Gear is the most popular television program... in the world. It's rather on the same scale as mismanagement of the Superb Owl.

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  69. Re:Miss Clarkson Already by Cederic · · Score: 1

    The man is a homosexual

    What the fuck has that got to do with it?

    You're fucking weird, you are.

  70. Re:too bad.... but... by gmack · · Score: 1

    Sorry but you are projecting. By all accounts Clarkson was the one spewing verbal abuse. Clarkson knew he was out of line after the indecent and tried to apologize . Here it is from the BBC report "It was not disputed by Jeremy Clarkson or any witness that Oisin Tymon was the victim of an unprovoked physical and verbal attack"

    I love Jeremy Clarkson's work on Top Gear but he was really out of line and I really don't see what other option the BBC had but to let him go.

  71. Re:too bad.... but... by Kuruk · · Score: 1

    They left the little one on the top of some Canadian mountain in the recent show I saw. What's the problem ?

  72. What about the in-human treatment of the Stig by Kuruk · · Score: 1

    Come on !

  73. Any takers? by Phoghat · · Score: 1

    $20 US says he'll be back on the telly within 60 days

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