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Star Wars Battlefront Game Trailer Is So Realistic It Looks Like Movie Footage

MojoKid writes It has been a tremendous week for Star Wars fans. First we got to see Han Solo and Chewbacca make an emotional reappearance in the newest Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer (the second official trailer Disney has put out). Now, Electronic Arts is treating us to a visual smorgasbord of cinema-quality footage showing the forthcoming Star Wars Battlefront game. Battlefront will support to up 40 players divided between the Rebel Alliance and Galactic Empire, all shooting it out and playing with some of the coolest Star Wars vehicles and weapons around. We're talking jetpacks, AT-AT war machines, AT-STs, TIE Fighters, X-wings, and more. Though the trailer allegedly shows actually "game engine footage," it's questionable whether or not it's actual gameplay or just pre-rendered cut scenes from the game engine. Either way, it's still pretty impressive.

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  1. Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do they give you a render farm to run this thing on for free, or do you have to buy that yourself?

    1. Re:Render farm? by Cley+Faye · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ignoring the fact that EA is involved and will probably screw customers one way or another, what part of "game engine footage" did you miss?

    2. Re:Render farm? by taustin · · Score: 2

      You probably believe that movies "inspired by the title of a true story" bear some resemblance to the actual events, too.

    3. Re:Render farm? by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      AC, Americans don't say "representative to" (or at least they don't in any part of the country I've ever lived in). It sounds unnatural. I would assume that the previous AC either made a typo or isn't a native speaker of English.

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    4. Re:Render farm? by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      No, it looks just like any other PS4 game. That is... Not like a movie (yet).

      The headline is just trying to grab clicks by lying.

    5. Re: Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sentence fragment. Subject. Predicate. For effect. Kirk out.

    6. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would assume that the previous AC either made a typo or isn't a native speaker of English.

      Yeah. He might be American.

      ducks

    7. Re:Render farm? by tsa · · Score: 0

      LOL. If I had mod points I'd mod you up.

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    8. Re:Render farm? by maugle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes... and we've certainly never been misled by "game engine footage" before.
      *cough*Killzone*cough*
      *cough*Watchdogs*cough*

    9. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I missed absolutely nothing. Just because a cinematic was rendered using the same engine as the game does not, in any form, indicate that the game will look anything close to that. It is a completely pre-rendered video. It is *very* common for companies to use their engine to create these sorts of pre-rendered videos using models and techniques that will most definitely not be used in the game.

    10. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't even look as Crysis 3.

    11. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. If I had mod points I'd mod you up.

      You would if you posted more interesting comments than this.

    12. Re:Render farm? by thechemic · · Score: 0

      You separated two complete thoughts with a comma. Since they are both complete sentences, they should have been separated by a period. Please learn to form sentences before you move on to correcting other peoples grammar.

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    13. Re: Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kirk's not out. He's just sorta... down. Spock, now... Spock is definitely out.

    14. Re:Render farm? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Rule of games, the better the graphics the worse the game play, the better the graphics the buggier the product upon release, cut scenes are often claimed to be part of the game. So the game engine produces the cut scenes at maximum capability on a very high powered machine over with minutes of processing to create seconds of imaging ie really, really shitty frame rates. The empty hype of modern corporate marketing. I'll wait until a year after release and let everyone else deal with B$.

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    15. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not to mention that you can also just run the game engine at 1 frame per second and release the movie in 30 fps making it look like that, whereas in actual gameplay the framerate is probably totally shite with that level of detail.

    16. Re:Render farm? by edittard · · Score: 2

      Wrong on two counts. One, "you fucking American idiot" doesn't have a finite verb so it's not a complete sentence. Had he written "you're a..." you might have a point.

      Two, it's correct to use a comma to separate the addressee. http://www.grammarerrors.com/p...

      Many people here omit it, sometimes changing the meaning somewhat.

      "There's an orange, doctor" vs. "There's an orange doctor"

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    17. Re: Render farm? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't separate your vocative from the main clause with a full-stop, you idiot.

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    18. Re:Render farm? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well it just looks better than the recent sw releases, so it looks better than a movie or a tv series.

      that doesn't need too much though you know.

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    19. Re:Render farm? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Given the number of times we've seen trailers and teasers from games which look stunning; sometimes even the demos look stunning only to have the final version look like absolute crap, I'm going to wait for the release before I declare the game to be visually good in anyway.

      Studios have a long history of promising the earth and then delivering garbage. All of them, not just EA. Everyone should be highly sceptical given the history of the industry.

    20. Re:Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *cough**cough**cough**cough*Colonial marines*cough**cough**cough**cough**cough**cough**cough*

    21. Re: Render farm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too soon, fucknut!

    22. Re:Render farm? by rioki · · Score: 1

      Actually I like to point to Star Citizen. The cinematic and trailers for that game are at the same level of graphical fidelity than the highest in game settings. The issue is that, first you probably can't afford the system that renders this smoothly, second the game absolutely feels differently. Game play is restricted by the input space and thus is almost always clunky; the more realistic the graphics, the more jarring the disconnect feels.

  2. Questionable? by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it's questionable whether or not it's actual gameplay or just pre-rendered cut scenes from the game engine.

    It's not questionable at all. When devs actually use in-game footage, they'll rub it in your face in every way possible. In-engine footage is marketing speak for "We wish we could do something like that, but right now it's running at 2 fps on SLI Titan Xs and all the animations are static".

    1. Re:Questionable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      totally pre-rendered - disclaimer at end makes it pretty clear demo of the 'game engine' not actual gameplay

    2. Re:Questionable? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I expect "game engine" demos to look the same as gameplay -- rendered cutscenes have been done with the game engine for years now, rather than playing pre-renderred video clips.

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    3. Re:Questionable? by gregor-e · · Score: 1

      Plus, on the final credit page it reads "FROSTBITE GAME ENGINE FOOTAGE REPRESENTATIVE OF PLAYSTATION 4. NOT ACTUAL GAMEPLAY."

    4. Re:Questionable? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 2

      I think we all know that EA is lying and actually gameplay won't look like that.

      But, more importantly, the phrase "So Realistic It Looks Like Movie Footage" is now meaningless. Yes, it does look "just like a movie" due to the fact that many scenes from movies are now done almost entirely in CGI.

    5. Re:Questionable? by SuperDre · · Score: 1

      No it's not, it's in-engine footage, BUT! it's a cinematic which means it can be of much higher quality because the engine only has to deal with what's shown and nothing else like during regular gameplay, it's like a 'photo-mode' which you see in some games now, which are also only available in a rerun of what you actually played. But I guess the in-engine footage is also propably shown on a very highend GPU...

    6. Re:Questionable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They know what you expect and are deliberately using that information to sell a lie.

    7. Re:Questionable? by tsa · · Score: 3, Funny

      In reality it looks like this.

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    8. Re:Questionable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what happens when you let the intern write the game logic entirely by abusing the debug facilities.

    9. Re:Questionable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, this "game engine" demo would look the same as gameplay... if you're gaming system was a renderfarm.

    10. Re:Questionable? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      In reality it looks like this.

      That's "game engine" footage, not "in-game". The final release won't have the same rich colour-depth.

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  3. Photo realistic? by __aardcx5948 · · Score: 2

    Sure, the lightning is good. But photo realistic? Not even close. It looks awesome but come on.

    1. Re:Photo realistic? by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      It looked good, until they were no longer able to not show faces.

    2. Re:Photo realistic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you don't not dislike not-Strong Bad?

    3. Re:Photo realistic? by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      Its honestly pretty competitive with CG effects in movies. I mean, go back and watch the prequel starwars movies again. All the CG was obvious. The lighting is almost never perfect.

      My personal favorite bad CG was that scorpion king mummy scene where the rock was turned into a giant insect and it looked seriously off. I'm not sure what it was... I'm assuming something with the lighting or shaders or something.

      But really, if this is at all representative of what the game will look like, then I think it should be great.

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    4. Re:Photo realistic? by peragrin · · Score: 1

      on a bad youtube video on my tv, I had to do a double take as the scene i was watching could have been in ROTJ.

      on my computer yea I agree it looks awesome but I can see the differences.

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    5. Re:Photo realistic? by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say even the scorpion king looked better than rubber neo vs plastic smith clones in Matrix II, that wasn't even cartoon, it looked like something off of robot chicken lol.

      As for the trailer? Everybody just has to face reality and reality is 1.- The 2 new "next gen" consoles are AMD netbook APUs with GPUs that would run around $130-$150 USD, the fanboys can scream and gnash their teeth but anybody that looks at the AMD whitepapers on the jaguar arch will see its not even on the level of the Athlon wrt most functions, much less an FX or i5/i7, 2.- The Steam hardware survey gives those designing on the PC side a good idea where the "sweet spot" to get the most customers will be and last I checked that is GPUs in the $100-$150 range and quad core CPUs, and 3.- With current technology the only way you would even get close to that is a pair of XFire or SLI'd top o' the line cards and even then I doubt you'd even hit 30 fps.

      So unless they come up with a way to make technology such as ray tracing and the rendering of tens of millions to hundreds of millions of polygons a LOT cheaper? Yeah you aren't gonna see anything like that, I don't care if your PC cost more than a new car. It certainly isn't gonna even be in the same ballpark with a PS4 or XB1 which is the platform that will be the primary focus of the devs, no way in hell.

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    6. Re:Photo realistic? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      The faces give it away no matter what you watch it on.

    7. Re:Photo realistic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't care if your PC cost more than a new car. It certainly isn't gonna even be in the same ballpark with a PS4 or XB1"

      How drivel like this gets modded up I will never know.

  4. Not interested by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 1

    Energy weapons don't provide the satisfaction you get when gibbing someone with a gun that shoots bullets. Even the sound of them is lame.

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    1. Re:Not interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullets use kinetic energy.

    2. Re:Not interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Satisfaction you seek? Energy weapons would provide you it if Hans using an energy weapon was to first Greedo shoot! Tell me not that require you would bullets in that confrontation!

    3. Re:Not interested by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Man, I disagree. Kinetic weapons are great, but a good blaster or plasma weapon is the coolest thing to nail someone with in multiplayer in pretty much any game that does service to the scifi weapon types.

    4. Re:Not interested by itzly · · Score: 1

      As long as you get to shoot first.

    5. Re:Not interested by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Surely you realize those weapons are not realistic, right?
      They behave pretty much like normal guns, and not like lasers would.

  5. DICE game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if only that DICE was the one that bought out Slashdot and Sourceforge, I'd be happy....

    1. Re:DICE game? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'd be happy if Slashdot was owned by a EA subsidiary?

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    2. Re:DICE game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think someone could make Slashdot any worse? And they probably wouldn't have made Sourceforge turn into the muck that it is today.

    3. Re:DICE game? by peragrin · · Score: 2

      Sure EA doesn't upgrade anything. slashdot Beta would never have existed.

      not to mention the DRM would prevent AC's from getting their frosty piss.

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    4. Re:DICE game? by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 1

      We'd probably get something even worse, like Slashdot Origin.

    5. Re:DICE game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd take conservative evil over liberal bullsh%t anyday.

    6. Re:DICE game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't?

    7. Re:DICE game? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      We'd get a different /. every year, and many of the existing assets would be incompatible with the new engine. John Maddening /. 2015.

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  6. "A DICE GAME" by NotInHere · · Score: 1

    Now I know everything.

    Disclaimer: I know it isn't THE dice, still funny.

    1. Re:"A DICE GAME" by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      What I don't get is why you need dice for a computer game....

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  7. Gameplay is king by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's obviously not straight from a player's POV, no one switches views that fast, and there's no way it's smart enough to give the right one of the tens of points of view in the first part of the video.

    It also doesn't look like a movie, not a high-budget one anyway. With the luxury of pre-rendering movies are already 15 years beyond those plastic faces. But enough complaining. Did you see the actor covering his face from the explosion? The smooth teamwork? The variety of vehicles? Maybe I'm behind the times but the non-graphics-related material; the gameplay, that's what I'm really into. And this has some good stuff.

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    1. Re:Gameplay is king by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you see the actor covering his face from the explosion? The smooth teamwork?

      Both are scripted.

      And this has some good stuff.

      I'll wait until we see some actual gameplay footage before getting excited.

    2. Re:Gameplay is king by loufoque · · Score: 1

      It's done by DICE under EA, they're the makers of the Battlefield series.
      It will be a casual shooter. They attract people with visuals and pseudo-cinematic aspects, not with actual gameplay.

    3. Re:Gameplay is king by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      the gameplay, that's what I'm really into. And this has some good stuff.

      Battlefront has never been disappointing in that regard and the previous 2 versions are still worth getting on a LAN and playing with friends. Hopefully this version of BF will allow the type of gameplay that has been available in the past to continue, instead of forcing you to be online like many games are now.

      After all the gameplay has to be good AND it has to be fun to play.

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    4. Re:Gameplay is king by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is just a reskinning of Battlefield 4, with some new vehicles and uniforms. They already have desert environments in the game.

    5. Re:Gameplay is king by Xest · · Score: 1

      It's just Battlefield 4 in the Star Wars universe. All of this including the great visuals already exist in Battlefield 4 since about 18 months ago.

      The upside is this is star wars, which makes it awesome. Let's just hope that it actually works, unlike BF4 which was broken and buggy for months after release, and still to this day has some launch day bugs present in it.

      Even BF3 before it had most of this stuff from a gameplay perspective so I don't really see anything new or groundbreaking here, but I'm happy it's being made, because I love BF3 and BF4 (well, when it works), and I love Star Wars.

      The only downside to this game is no single player, and I don't think I've ever bought a multiplayer only game (excluding MMOs) and enjoyed it because no proper single player is typically just code for "Half-arsed game, we couldn't be arsed to put much effort into and want to make a quick buck from." - I've found this to so far be a universal truth, from Quake III to Titanfall. Let's hope this is the exception that breaks the rule.

  8. Mechanics in Star Wars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do all of the land vehicles sound like they need tune ups? Is there a shortage of mechanics in the Star Wars' galaxy?

    *CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG*

  9. Game Engine footage != Game footage by overnight_failure · · Score: 2

    Just before everyone wets their pants

  10. what? by bigdavex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since modern Star Wars cinema looks like a video game, this isn't much a stretch.

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  11. Fan boy review much? by o_ferguson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, drop the false exuberance. As a long time fan of Star Wars and the Battlefront series, I'm more concerned about the stuff they killed from the title while reverting back ot the same name as the first version of the game. No single-player campaign. No content from Eps 1-3. No ground-to-ship warfare. This is basically just Battlefield with Starwars sprites added. Call it out for what it is.

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    1. Re:Fan boy review much? by captjc · · Score: 2

      There is offline single player. I am a bit miffed on the space battles thing. However, the space-based combat in BF2 was hardly the end-all-be-all of Star Wars dogfighting. X Vs Tie or Rogue Squadron it was not. As for the Prequel era stuff, They more or less said it will be DLC While I hate EA's DLC practices and it is pretty shitty they can't include them what is a $70 game, if they can bring back Gungan genocide mode, playable Palpatine, and the Naboo and Mustafar maps, I might consider buying them.

      Either way, Battlefront 2 is still on steam and still works very well on Windows 7 (and Wine for the Mac / linux gamers) in 1920x1080.

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    2. Re:Fan boy review much? by kamapuaa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > No content from Eps 1-3.

      This is a complaint?

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    3. Re:Fan boy review much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pretending 1-3 don't exist is a FEATURE not a bug.

    4. Re:Fan boy review much? by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Meesa thought you would say that...

    5. Re:Fan boy review much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, who would want to unleash a jar-jar on their enemies?

    6. Re:Fan boy review much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But some of us might want to kill him over and over and over again. How about setting him on fire and tossing him health packs so he doesn't die?

    7. Re:Fan boy review much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plot is optional in video games, having a bad plot isn't a drawback if the gameplay is good.

    8. Re:Fan boy review much? by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      I basically agree, but I'm not sure I understand the relevance.

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    9. Re:Fan boy review much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is basically just Battlefield with Starwars sprites added.

      Will it come with the same bugs BF3 and BF4 had ?
      Wait, still have.

  12. It says its not at the end of the trailer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the text on the closing shot of he trailer ffs ... "not actual gameplay footage" How hard is it?

    1. Re:It says its not at the end of the trailer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > How hard is it?

      That's a rather personal question, sir.

  13. Microtransactions by FlynnMP3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Your blaster battery is low. You can either wait and let it recharge or for 20 EA bucks, purchase an unlimited charge battery."

    1. Re:Microtransactions by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

      Followed by: I should have never bought that blaster battery from EA. I switched over to force sensitive for 100$. They didn't tell me advancing to deeper levels costs incrementally more money. But I get powers other players don't get, soooo worth it. The downside is that there is now permadeath for force sensitive characters, but I can revive myself at any time for 1$ with no loss of experience!

    2. Re:Microtransactions by Venerable+Vegetable · · Score: 1

      "Pre-Order and get bonuscontent early."...

    3. Re:Microtransactions by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Like EA would ever be that generous. 5 recharges, expiring after 24 hours, for 40 EA bucks (real value $19.99).

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    4. Re:Microtransactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your blaster battery is low. You can either wait and let it recharge or for 20 spacebucks, purchase an unlimited charge battery."

      FTFY.

    5. Re:Microtransactions by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      Pre order for $99.
      Release date price $65.
      Super premium version $189.

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    6. Re: Microtransactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40 eabucks, with real value of 25 dollars.
      Note: eabucks sold only in blocks of 35 bucks at a time.

    7. Re:Microtransactions by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      If people didn't pay for it, it wouldn't exist. I'm not talking about any specific game, but the pay-to-play/pay-to-win trend itself. People have shown that they're willing to pay to overcome obstacles -- even obstacles that exist solely to get them to pay, which would be extortion in any other context. The only way to eliminate extortion is to ban it, otherwise it's really damned effective.

    8. Re:Microtransactions by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

      Hey, I've used micro transactions in games I wrote in the past to be honest! I just personally avoid games I pay for that also have micro transactions. I have enough games in my library that I don't have to lower myself to that level. Also I am not a fan of EA ever since they've been shutting down so many company's offices to slow competition. That is toxic for the game player who wants quality games being released.

  14. Love the stupid energy shield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I loved the "I'm just gonna make myself invincible in this little fancy shield then fly out on a jet pack and blow up this giant ATV". When will george lucas stop stretching every single thing, the dude lost his sanity to money so long, long ago

    1. Re:Love the stupid energy shield by captjc · · Score: 2

      It's a game. It is supposed to be fun. If you want gritty realism, why are you looking at a Star Wars game? Go play America's Army

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    2. Re:Love the stupid energy shield by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 2

      If you want gritty realism, join the actual army.

    3. Re:Love the stupid energy shield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Star Citizen...

  15. Gameplay looks great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The closed booth presentation they gave at Celebration shows actual gameplay on a PS4. It is not quite as great looking as the trailer, which is clearly using scripted animations and heavy editing but pretty impressive none the less. It's very beautiful, the sounds are incredibly authentic and the ATSTs and ATATs look and sound lethal.

    It felt like people died way too quickly for a video game but it looked, sounded, and felt very much like what it would be like to assault the shield generator bunker at the battle of Endor.

  16. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It does not "Looks Like Movie Footage", unless your talking about the Star Wars digital cartoon prequels that George Lucas did a decade back. In that case, it looks better and the characters in this game look less wooden than the actors he shot against green screen.

  17. It's a trick of your brain by Echo_Hotel · · Score: 2

    This is only going to look good for an hour or two till you've seen all the animations a few times and the lack of variation to things kicks the realism down a few notches.

    1. Re:It's a trick of your brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is only going to look good for an hour or two till you've seen all the animations a few times and the lack of variation to things kicks the realism down a few notches.

      Who cares? You just described every game ever made. In multiplayer games going back to Quake, people turn off everything needed to get a consistent frame rate anyway. This isn't a stop and smell the roses adventure game if you're not familiar with the Battlefront franchise.

  18. Frostbite by Zarjazz · · Score: 1

    The Frostbite Game Engine is the best looking one around at present so yes, these scenes may have been generated real-time but it will be just like those in other games using the engine. Cut-scenes like this turn off unwanted background game processing and then set gfx settings up to the max. In game =/= In engine.

    Sure it looks pretty but there are enough negatives to make me want to avoid this

    > EA
    > DLC, DLC, and some more DLC with a side helping of micro-transactions.
    > Buggy DiCE software
    > Combat is even more simplified than Call-of-Duty.

    1. Re:Frostbite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minor nit-pick...

      Unless they're providing a distinct, different rendering engine for the cinematics, 'in game' most certainly does equal 'in engine'.
      It's just that 'in engine' doesn't *necessarily* equal 'in game', because you can do things 'in engine' that you can't do 'in game' due to the extra processing that 'in game' has to deal with for things like AI, hit detection, networking, etc.

  19. EA are liars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They always lie about how the game actually looks, and probably forced DICE to make this trailer.

  20. How many times have they said this before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's either boy who cried wolf or yet another load of BS

  21. Energy weapons are satisfying by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    There have been plenty of Star Wars games over the years where I have taken great satisfaction in dispatching foes with energy weapons.

    But beyond that, as long as they have Thermal Detonators, you will probably gets the gibs you are looking for.

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  22. Look at the last few seconds of the video by Ragnarok89 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Come on people, why so much discussion and speculation? It is printed in black and white, plain as day: Frostbite game engine footage representative of PlayStation 4. Not actual gameplay. During the final few seconds where you see âoelearn moreâoe, the game studio logos,etc. Case closed. Discussion over.

  23. But wait theres more! by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

    EA Star Wars Battlepacks only 4.99$ Act now and you can get the Super Deluxe Version for 199 dollars with access to the beta!

    EA is screwing over everyone with micro transactions in all their games. The grind to unlock gear, and reducing quality. Where is Battlefield 5? Hardline is an absurd step back and it seems to be a fluff game so they can rape consumers by using the BattleField name.

    1. Re:But wait theres more! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EA Star Wars Battlepacks only 4.99$ Act now and you can get the Super Deluxe Version for 199 dollars with access to the beta!

      EA is screwing over everyone with micro transactions in all their games. The grind to unlock gear, and reducing quality. Where is Battlefield 5? Hardline is an absurd step back and it seems to be a fluff game so they can rape consumers by using the BattleField name.

      EA hasn't screwed me over with Origin, DLC or microtransactions. Because I refuse to install Origin on my system, or buy any game that requires it. I've gone so far as to get a refund on a game that required it but did not have that requirement stated on the purchase page of Amazon (at the time).

  24. Meh - its starwars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you too can join the 51st regiment. Unit Crest 'L' for loser!

  25. How long by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

    Till this is actual game play? My guess would be 10-20 years.

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    1. Re:How long by Brad1138 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That being said, it isn't the graphics that make a game good.

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    2. Re:How long by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Along with the music, graphics helps a little.

      However, I often find 3D makes a game worse.

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    3. Re:How long by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      Right but a Battlefront game is gonna have good game play.

    4. Re:How long by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

      The exception was the late 80s. Better graphics = better production budget = more likely to be quality. Judging a game by its graphics ended somewhere around the time 3d was being experimented with, then everything was hit or miss. Even a lot of big budget companies had no idea how to make a 3d game early on...

    5. Re:How long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The game has great graphics (not that there's anything good about that)".

    6. Re:How long by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      There were plenty of games on the C64 with good graphics but shitty gameplay. They were usually also crippled by a horrendous multiload.

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  26. This is EA. Expect Greatness! Oops, I mean shite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, but this is an EA game. It's absolutely guaranteed to be horrible. Look what they've done to every other game / franchise they've ever touched... Heck, they destroy entire studios, look what they've done to BiowEAre; gone from one of the premier and most loved developers to one of the most despised... So don't get your hopes up. EA is great at marketing. (Note that they say "Game Engine Footage" not "Actual In-Game Footage", many game engines can be made to perform incredible feats of eye-candy in demos, but are unable to produce anything close to such results during actual game-play.

  27. Only 40 players by koan · · Score: 1

    Won't buy it then.

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    1. Re:Only 40 players by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were hoping for 41?

    2. Re:Only 40 players by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      42!! (Oops.. wrong geeky sci-fi.)

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  28. Re:This is EA. Expect Greatness! Oops, I mean shit by koan · · Score: 1

    I agree, if you need evidence of this claim look to Hardline.

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  29. Questionable?? by EvilSS · · Score: 1

    "it's questionable whether or not it's actual gameplay or just pre-rendered cut scenes from the game engine. Either way, it's still pretty impressive."

    Uh, I don't think it's questionable at all. This 100% looks like pre-rendered in engine footage. Just because they say it's in engine graphics doesn't mean it's real-time. While I'd love it if this looked this good there is just no way I'm buying it right now.

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  30. MORONIC article- baked graphics are TRIVIAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Game Engines of 2015 are expected to handle a day-night cycle and different lighting conditions in REAL TIME. The advanced lighting models, with their fully dynamic algorithms, take a LOT of CPU and GPU power.

    But what happens if you simply baked EVERYTHING into an unchanging scene. Steam fixed textures and lighting for each scenario. Now the weight of rendering drops back to something little better than Quake 1, with vastly boosted texture resolutions and colour depth processing.

    Modern GPU hardware is TRIANGLE strong. Modern GPU hardware is texture memory strong. The current consoles have 6GB plus of shared RAM, all of which can be dedicated to the GPU. This only a few years after when 1GB of VRAM was standard on most discrete PC GPU gaming cards.

    DICE (the company behind this game) struggles when state-of-the-art rendering is enabled in their engine, because it is coded so inefficiently. But if all the features available since 2010 are disabled, and they create a game with fully baked assets, they can now boast incredible framerates on even the dreadfully poor Xbox One. There is NOTHING clever about this. There is nothing extraordinary. Just a cynical exploitation of no-nothing idiots who dribble just because a CAD model 'recreates' something they are familiar with.

    Of course, those of us that know the history of DICE know the company has its biggest issues with GAMEPLAY. There is almost ZERO chance that DICE has fixed their biggest weakness, and have found a way to craft gameplay elements that don't simply recycle the crap from BF3 and BF4. BF1 was WEAK but BF1 allowed community modding, so the community showed DICE how gameplay should be done, allowing DICE to craft the excellent BF2. When DICE has to rely entirely on their own 'thinking' we get rubbish like the dreadful 'Hardline'.

    So, YES, the promotion for this game will rely on cynically created scenes from the movies (trivial for any artist), and avoid all discussion of the engine in real play, or the actual gaming experience.

    1. Re:MORONIC article- baked graphics are TRIVIAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know how you imagine that game engines work or are "expected" to work. Frostbite utilizes Enlighten to provide real-time global illumination. I don't think Quake 1 did anything like that.

  31. They once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the trailer for Star Wars Force Commander was super realistic too.

  32. Trailer? by garyoa1 · · Score: 1

    The problem with ALL game trailers is... none of them give an idea of actual game play. Best thing to do is wait til someone posts some real game play on youtube. Then you'll get an idea if it's worth it or not.

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  33. Start Wars isn't realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it more that the Star Wars movies are so unrealistic that they look like game renders?

    I've never had the feeling that Star Wars movies looked realistic, sound in space, all space ships under the influence of some sort of gravity, laser beams that don't act like light waves but like flying fluorescent lamps, extraterrestrial lifeforms that look like humans with latex masks, or just like puppets from the Muppet-show, deep space travel across an entire galaxy as if you travel from city A to city B on planet C without any attempt to make it at least remotely scientific, ...

  34. EA? Pass. by Scutter · · Score: 1

    EA will never get another dime of my money. I don't care if they somehow manage to pull off a miracle and actually deliver a playable game for once.

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  35. Neither? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The comments from the devs make it obvious that this is neither gameplay footage, nor pre-rendered. The trailer consists of real-time rendered cinematics footage using a beefy computer. They can tweak real-time cutscenes quite heavily in a way you can't quite accomplish with gameplay, e.g. keeping texture resolutions just right for the distances that objects are being displayed. And the animations are obviously tailored to the cinematic...

  36. Re:EA? Pass. by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    As a Star Wars fan this shit always leaves me so conflicted. Such a lucrative license with so much good stuff.

    EA's umbrella companies vary in quality, but many are very good. The corporate burden of being under EA is just fucking immense though, and they put shit into games that should not have shit.

    I'll definitely buy Battlefront. My general dislike of the corporation is simply far less than my desire to play some fucking Star Wars. It definitely feels like a captive audience trick, though.

  37. Don't like spectacle over gameplay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can appreciate the work that goes into replicating something from the classic Star Wars universe, but having played alot of Battlefield 3 and Arma 2/3, I really NEED the gameplay mechanics to support the adventure and fun aspect of the game, and so, merely visuals for sake of visuals isn't very appealing to me as a gamer.

  38. Realistic?? by tsa · · Score: 1

    For your information: Star Wars is fiction. I know for many people it seems very real but I have to disappoint you. Nothing about it is realistic.

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    1. Re:Realistic?? by tmjva · · Score: 1

      You beat me to this.

      The idea of "realism" in fiction, especially science-fiction/fantasy genres is truly odd. Although their saving grace is comparing to whether it is like a movie or not.

      (Historical fiction not so much, except when they make up major events that never happened. Invented love interest however is always a given that can be lived with.)

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    2. Re:Realistic?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For your information: Star Wars is fiction. I know for many people it seems very real but I have to disappoint you. Nothing about it is realistic.

      The idea of "realism" in fiction, especially science-fiction/fantasy genres is truly odd.

      That's nice, but we're not talking about realism in the sense of subjects being depicted faithfully to how they actually are in real life.

      For the purposes of the trailer, game, and film, the meaning is more akin to photorealism - an attempt to fool the eye into seeing false images as if they were real-world objects.

      The distinction seems so obvious to me (and any fan who's been discussing science fiction films for more than, say, 2 months) that I can't help but think you two are being purposefully obtuse.

  39. Still the dead carp eyes. by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    If they had even just put goggles on the characters then it might fool people who watch the whole thing. The characters' skin was a bit dead carp as well but the eyes were completely devoid of life like every game so far. Some day some genius will crack how to do eyes in a real time rendering but so far, no joy.

    But on that note, I may very well have to buy a PS just to get this game.

  40. It *IS* In-game Game Engine Footage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It *IS* In-game Game Engine Footage

    See the development trailer from E3 2014:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yKv45X_OIo

    PURELY AWESOME.
    NO DOUBTS.
    NO COMPLAINING.

    1. Re:It *IS* In-game Game Engine Footage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at time stamp 2:09 of the video stating following "not real gameplay"

  41. It has been a tremendous week for Star Wars fans. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    It has been a tremendous week for Star Wars fans.

    One got a job and one got laid?

    Not the same one, obviously. Let's not step into the realms of fantasy.

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  42. So they have this great tech but they use it to by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    rehash an old movie with "speeders" and whatever those stupid giant walking machines/targets are called, but they left out the one thing that made it Star Wars: the frickin' teddy bears! Where are the damned teddy bears? I want teddy bears!

    1. Re:So they have this great tech but they use it to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rehash an old movie with "speeders" and whatever those stupid giant walking machines/targets are called, but they left out the one thing that made it Star Wars: the frickin' teddy bears! Where are the damned teddy bears? I want teddy bears!

      I know right? They should have updated the Leisure Suit Larry series instead.

  43. nice article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hi this article is very interesting. and i can see that you are very good in speaking in english. can you give me other tips on how to learn english as a native speaker because i am still struggling with it.i had a lesson via skype from http://preply.com/en/skype/english-native-speakers and i can say that i am satisfied with it. but i want to see and learn any other ways if possible. best regards!

  44. Re:This is EA. Expect Greatness! Oops, I mean shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought Bioware was overrated. Their story lines and characters always came off as pretentious.

  45. Re:EA? Pass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a massive Star Wars fan (I may as well give my entire paycheque to Fantasy Flight Games, they're making some seriously awesome tabletop games), but they've pretty much confirmed that they've ripped out all the stuff that made Battlefront II so awesome
    * No space battles
    * AT-ATs on rails
    * Only a handful of maps
    * No campaign
    * No galactic conquest

    Not to mention the, quite frankly, ludicrous amounts of launch day DLC. I'm not buying this shit, instead I'm going home to play number 2, which quite literally has 3x the content the new one will.

  46. RTS or FPS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So.... is this new Battlefront being a RTS or FPS?

    If it is going to be RTS, then #%%#"& the graphics! You would never ever bee so close in RTS games! That is the main problem with almost all RTS/RPG games that camera is too close that you can't really see surroundings!

    If it is FPS, okay, looks good, but doesn't run on current computers.

  47. Its Game Engine Footage NOT INGAME FOOTAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a difference between game engine footage and ingame footage. If you take the UNREAL engine there exist several demos - especially the "INFILTRATOR" - where the power of the engine is shown. But THESE ENGINE DEMOS are NOT INGAME DEMOS. These demos are heavy scripted demos running on expensive SLI or Crossfire combinations of extremely powerfull gfx cards.

  48. It's GAME ENGINE FOOTAGE not INGAME FOOTAGE by Fattyman1971 · · Score: 1

    Don't think this video shows something that will be seen in this quality in the later game. It is only a demonstration what the engine CAN do. Scripting, many expensive connected - via SLI or Crossfire - gfx cards will show you this kind of footage. Think of the "INFILTRATOR"-demo of the UNREAL-Engine. This one also shows nice sf-centric engine footage - but not real ingame footage. You will need 4 connected 980gtx cards to render this big scripted scene.

  49. Slashdot Article is So Pandering... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    ...it looks like advertising!

  50. X-Wing VS Tie Fighter by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Call me when X-Wing VS Tie Fighter comes out again, otherwise I am not all that interested. Also 20 VS 20? Please. Those are some cute systems you go there.

    Hopefully when/if X-Wing VS Tie Fighter ever does come back it will be designed for PC's and not crippled for this console garbage.

    Maybe with the re-release with the film, it will happen...

    1. Re:X-Wing VS Tie Fighter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other thing everyone seems to be missing is that the large vehicle (read AT-AT's) are on rails and only weapons are controllable.... as in you can't even drive a fuckin vehicle... it's like we have moved backwards 15 years in FPS.... shit make that 20...

  51. PhysX? by phorm · · Score: 1

    One thing I note is that the particle effects are quite impressive, including explosions and sparks, etc. I'm guessing those are PhysX enabled or possibly Mantle? Whatever is being used, it definitely helps lend a bit of a Starwars/movie feel to things.