Slashdot Mirror
The Town That Banned Wi-Fi
An anonymous reader sends a story from The Guardian about Green Bank, West Virginia, a small town housing the National Radio Astronomy Observatory. There are other telescopes nearby, too. Because the telescopes are so sensitive, stray electromagnetic signals are strictly regulated in the surrounding area, which is called the National Radio Quiet Zone. But the town is running into a problem: its population was around 120 when this began, and by now about 40 people have moved there because they want to get away from radio waves and Wi-Fi signals and other types of electromagnetic radiation.
There have been reports of tensions in the town: tales of threats and abuse unfitting to a sleepy mountain village. And it is all the stranger when you consider that no serious scientific study has been able to establish that electrosensitivity exists. ... Where the locals might have been happy to tolerate one or two of the sensitives, the mass migration was beyond the pale. ... People would walk towards [one woman] with concealed electronics, in an effort to provoke a reaction. A meeting she and her husband organised to help educate the others about electrosensitivity descended into a slanging match.
A thunderstorm must torture these people terribly.
So, they have to hide from the Sun during the day like a vampire also?
Oliver.
no serious scientific study has been able to establish that electrosensitivity exists
How come nobody had the common courtesy of a "simple" double blind experiment?
Isn't this an acceptable solution? Give them space where they can have their way. Radiosensitivity is a harmless crazy. It's not like the United States of America lack space. Every year many thousands of tech freaks gather in a desert to live out their dream of a high tech tribal life. Isn't there room for other loonies too?
I too would be pissed if these assholes came to my hometown with their bullshit and started telling everyone how to live.
There is a real problem with studies related to things like this. A few people claim to have some problem - electrosensitivity in this case - which they may or may not have. Then a whole load of other people hear about it, and all claim to have it as well, most simply because they have had some minor random problem, and latch onto it as a reason. In effect the whole thing snowballs. Now, there may actually be a very few people who do genuinely have the problem, but when you come to do the studies, you sample a large number of people. You do the statistics. You do not conclude that there is no link - studies like these cannot show that there is *no* link. You conclude - correctly - that there is no statistically significant link. But there still might (or might not) be a real problem for a very few people.
From TFA: "Sweden is one of the few places to recognise electrosensitivity as a disability and the government will help sufferers insulate their homes."
I suppose they can also apply for full disability and a pension because they cannot work in any modern environment.
in The Washingtonian probably inspired the Guardian's article.
Best Slashdot Co
Maybe they were all fat?
OMG Ponies!!! with Glitter!!!! I miss Pink
The FCC ban was created in 1958. The town didn't ban this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Just another day in Paradise
The town only had 120 residents. From their perspective, 40 new people is a mass migration. Heck, most towns of this size are slowly decreasing in population. They lack the resources to absorb 40 new people, let alone 40 new nut jobs with bizarre needs.
In an effort to make Green Bank more navigable, Schou made some requests of local businesses. A Dollar Store was opening, but its fluorescent and halogen lights would be intolerable. She asked that they were changed. “They wouldn’t do it. And without the light it gets very dark in there, so they’re not willing to turn off the power.” She took to eating her meals in the senior citizens’ centre, where a gap in the lighting gave her some peace. But walking to collect her food entailed exposure to problem bulbs, so she would ask others to wait on her.
Things came to a head. A town meeting was called. “She became very demanding, asking other people to turn their lights off or replace their bulbs,” said Stewart. “It was too much. And Schou was encouraging other sensitives to move here, and this is not a town with many jobs or houses to begin with.”
Where the locals might have been happy to tolerate one or two of the sensitives, the mass migration was beyond the pale. Another sensitive who moved to Green Bank was reported to have flown into a rage at the library, denouncing the “dumb hillbillies”. “People tell me to stop encouraging others to move here, and to stop bringing them into stores,” Schou confirms. “The hostility continues.” People would walk towards Schou with concealed electronics, in an effort to provoke a reaction. A meeting she and her husband organised to help educate the others about electrosensivity descended into a slanging match. Schou, who has called herself a “technological leper,” said the ill will went further: “I had a visitor staying, a fellow refugee, and the air was let out of our car tyres overnight.”
At best, she is a nuisance demanding everyone accommodate her invisible disability that she has zero evidence for. At worst, it sounds like she might be trying to literally take over the town by creating a solid electro-senstive voting block.
As for the townsfolk harrassing her, well we once again have only her word on that. And after almost a year seeing unverified and outright known to be false accusations of harrassment trumpeted in the media--the Guardian itself being one of the (very) guilty outlets--yeah, I'm gonna need some substantial evidence before I believe a word of that either.
The town already bans most transmitting devices. That's the whole point. The problem is that the wackos want stores to replace and/or disable lighting fixtures because of their "sensitivity", and they want staff in cafeterias to wait on them directly because they'd have to pass through lit areas to reach the food and don't want to. Read the article. I'm fine with self-treating psychosomatics, up until the point where they start imposing unreasonably on others.
$_ = "wftedskaebjgdpjgidbsmnjgcdwatb"; tr/a-z/oh, turtleneck Phrase Jar!/; print
I guess people are afraid that at this rate soon the crazy will outnumber the "normal" population, end eventually normal people will be a oppressed minority.
It's difficult to not give a shit when you start considering possible outcomes.
Yes, apparently. They are insisting the residents change their own electrical fixtures to accomodate their own little neuroses, for one thing.
We wouldn't expect the Amish to accept it either.
Who is this "we"? Much like an FCC notice, I would expect the Amish to have to receive non-interfering RF. And that's the point, isn't it? These people are claming to be sensitive to things even the radio observatory isn't bothered by, because it's below the level of the background noise.
In fact, they almost seem to be a small religion that is lacking a charismatic leader.
Oh, no. Never base your religion on something that can be conclusively disproven by science.
Now, I can get a headache from a CRT television that somebody left on in the corner with no signal — I can literally hear that consciously and even identify it — across a crowded room full of talking people. So you might say I'm sensitive to the idea that some people can be sensitive to things that other people don't notice. I find that certain fluorescent lamps really hurt my eyes, too; but not all of them, I don't think I'm allergic to fluorescent lights. There's just some combination of phosphors that I find particularly irritating. In the kitchen I mixed warm and cool white and that seems OK — but the ballast has started making a new and grating humming noise recently...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
If you don't change your lightbulb for her, that's harassment!
But they ARE interfering!
anyone else wonder if the electrosensitivity "movement" has been funded by cable/ISP companies?
A synonym for electrosensitivity is hypochondriac.
Are they interfering with your life?
Did you RTFA? They are interfering. They are going about town demanding that other people turn off electrical stuff that they imagine causes their imaginary disease.
I hope they're also eating multi-grain GMO-free food with no artificial colors.
You have a very strange idea of what not interfering is.
Bwahahahaha, my evil plan... "Release the brainwashed electro-sensitive zombies!", all but invisible to the NSA, no known modern technology can track them...
The Quiet Zone protects the telescopes of the NRAO facility, and the antennas and receivers of the U.S. Navy's Information Operations Command (NIOC) at Sugar Grove. The NIOC has long been the location of electronic intelligence-gathering systems, and is today said to be a key station in the ECHELON system operated by the National Security Agency (NSA)
Let see how long they can stand the onslaught of pseudo-science arguments until they cave and abandon post.
When you have an influx of people who are delusional, then conflict is to be expected.
Can science prove that I can feel a drop of moonlight on my hand, shining ?
Can science show why I can sense the aura of fruits, trees, animals, humans, with my hands or with a simple rod ? Or are you saying that I can't, while I have obviously done that. I can teach anyone in an hour, unless they have their minds shut down.
So you're fine changing your business practices because someone with a well-demonstrated psychosomatic condition moves in next door and tells you to do so? Good to know.
After we installed a Wifi relay in the lobby, the idi^H^Hperson manning the entrance started taking sick days after sick days, claiming the wifi was making her sick.
I would personally fire such a person. Someone that stupid is going to be a detriment to the company at some point.
Then we activated it and placed a piece of black tape on the LEDs, told her 'Fine, we won't be using it then', and all was fine.
You are much kinder than I would be. I hope this person had many other wonderful qualities to offset her lack of critical reasoning ability.
I'd say going around town demanding people turn off lights or change bulb types, asking people to wait on you so you can avoid "dirty" lights and so on is pretty damn clearlt "interfering". Let's see how tolerant you are in such a situation. Crazy-ass sensitives can move into the country; towns are for civilized life.
There have been a handful of people who've come into my place of work, looked up at our lights and have said, "I'm so glad that you have incandescent lighting. Fluorescent lights really bother my EM sensitivity" or something to that effect. All of our lights are CFL (but look like incandescent).
I don't respond to AC's.
Someone's off his meds again it seems. Let it go, APK. That was last week, and you're still all butthurt that obvious flaws in your software exist. Instead on working to fix them, you turn on the people who highlight them. I feel really sorry for you.
Are they interfering with your life? No? Then shut the hell up and mind your own business.
That's what the people in the town are tying to do but crazy people are demanding that they stop using using neon lights in their business, stop using florescent lights in their business.
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
Forty untreated psychotics, you mean. Sorry, I wouldn't want them next door either. Meds or GTFO.
I would expect the Amish to have to receive non-interfering RF. And that's the point, isn't it? These people are claming to be sensitive to things even the radio observatory isn't bothered by, because it's below the level of the background noise.
If they choose to believe that non-interfering RF is causing them great harm, what is the harm in allowing them to hold that belief? It appears they are only harming themselves in so doing; outsiders can choose to visit other towns instead. Make no mistake that I don't agree with their ideas of Wi-Fi causing harm to humans, but I also don't see how their idea hurts anyone outside their own group.
Oh, no. Never base your religion on something that can be conclusively disproven by science.
Isn't that generally how religions grow, by touting something that is disproven? Hell the religion with the fastest growth rate in the US - in terms of number of new members relative to their total number of existing members - is almost certainly the one that counters reality the most strongly.
If these "electrosensitive" people could find a leader willing to post lots of youtube videos (which would likely be tricky if they think that the requisite technology for making such videos harms them) they could likely see the same kind of huge growth.
But again, why does it matter? If they want to shut themselves off from the outside world, why should the outside world care? They still pay their taxes, they still send their kids to school. They don't seem to be breaking any laws.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Militaries have been working on microwave weapons for decades...
They could have just opted for "science" and the incredibly cheap $50 Whole House Plug Neutralizer and neutralize those bad boy EMFs :)
http://www.amazon.com/Aulterra...
Wow, you've got yourself a crazy stalker. Sorry to see that.
Its a British term meaning an argument or heated discussion
A friend of mine works in the disability insurance area. He described n attempt to accommodate people claiming multiple chemical sensitivity. One solution tried (and finally abandoned) was to build an apartment complex to very strict standards, eliminating volatile chemicals, paints, etc. And to institute rules against residents bringing in perfumes, soaps, and an entire range of chemicals. All of this instead of seeking out individual residences suitably isolated from neighbors and typical background chemical traces.
The residence rapidly devolved into screaming matches between the afflicted. With each sufferer accusing their neighbors of faking their sensitivity while insisting that only theirs was legitimate. It turns out that they all know subconsciously that its root cause is psychological. And so they project their behavior onto the surrounding patients.
Have gnu, will travel.
Who is this "we"? Much like an FCC notice, I would expect the Amish to have to receive non-interfering RF. And that's the point, isn't it? These people are claming to be sensitive to things even the radio observatory isn't bothered by, because it's below the level of the background noise.
So why does this matter to you?
These new people aren't responsible for no-wifi, the radio blackout was put in place for the observatory.
If these people wish to relocate to an existing radio blackout area, that makes them happy, and it doesn't affect you in anyway - why not leave them be?
Oh, no. Never base your religion on something that can be conclusively disproven by science.
Again, why does this matter to you?
Let them be "stupid" where their stupidity won't harm anyone. Why can't we just leave them be?
Short of their stupidity resulting in them carrying around a radio transmitter they aren't aware is actually a transmitter, they aren't hurting anything.
And even in that case, I would imagine just telling them the thing is a transmitter would very quickly get them to shut it off willingly, maintaining the radio blackout.
But short of that I don't see why anyone would care that stupid people are going out of their way to be stupid in a place that stupidity doesn't harm anyone.
In fact, good on them for finding an existing radio blackout zone to use, instead of forcing it needlessly on everyone around where they used to live.
Moral of the story: Leave motherfuckers alone.
I thought you knew how crazy and dangerous religion can be. Majority rule has its flaws.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Ignorance is harm in and of itself, let alone the idea that, if they choose to blame something on an incorrect source (cows are dying because witches) they remove the possibility of finding and fixing the actual problem. (Cows are dying because contaminated feed, water, disease, whatever).
Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
"People would walk towards [one woman] with concealed electronics, in an effort to provoke a reaction."
And there was no reaction. Therefore the claimed illness is total bullshit.
Live in a cave if you want, believe bullshit if you want, make nutty claims if you want -- and meanwhile, the rest of us will laugh at you and make fun of your stupidity by doing things like standing near you with concealed electronics. That's freedom.
Next question, please. This one is answered.
Yeah Dave, that is nonsense. Good.
Moral of the story: Leave motherfuckers alone.
Yes, that is the moral of the story. But the motherfuckers in question won't leave other people alone: they're trying to force people to do stupid shit for no reason.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The quote from the article says:
There are literally thousands of studies that have confirmed that electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) exists. The intra-cellular mechanism has been discovered independently by different research teams composed of credited scientists in the field at major well-regarded universities in different parts of the globe.
But of course, a study about something that does not exist can not be "serious", now can it?
Here are the search terms to google for: Voltage-Gated Calcium Canals (VGCC), NO-ONOO cycle.
There are a couple of very good videos about it on Youtube, by professor Martin Pall. I very much recommend them, especially how he debunks earlier studies that had claimed that electrosensitivity wouldn't exist.
BTW, 40 people are nothing. The associations for people with electrohypersensitive disorders have thousands of members that would love to move to a town like Green Bank.
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
They are just echoing an existing article, with some editing to make it sound sensational.
That town is wi-fi free because there are sensitive radio telescopes nearby and the US Federal government made the restrictions manditory a long time ago.
This is my opinion based on what little I know and understand of the rumors and lies Thanks, Randal
Dave420 is not the one squirming. All of the rest of us are from having to see your repeated off-topic posts. He was on-topic and had something thoughtful to say. You do not. A HOSTS file simply isn't relevant to the discussion.
By the way, I do my DNS filtering at RING -1 - on the router. No impact on computer performance, centralized management, and OS Agnostic filtering.
Oh, and I'm perfectly happy not blocking any sites, because I know how to use the Internet. So that's a centrally managed empty hosts file.
Considering he spams these answers just about everywhere, I could answer off the top of my head. The DNS results are cached in-memory and run in kernel memory space and so it's faster than any sort of software filtering such as ad-block. Technically, that's faster than maintaining a hosts file on a router or doing any router-level filtering like OpenDNS, but it's not exactly convenient. Especially if you own multiple computers and devices.
It's like a social science experiment.
I have done work with the NRAO at Green Bank (I was technical lead on one of the 20 meter telescopes) and the vast majority of the people who live in Green Bank work for the NRAO (or are part of the family of someone who does). There are, in other words, a lot more PhDs than in most small country towns (even though it looks like a small country town). These are people who are used to having evidence to back up their beliefs.
Now, you take this set of people and add in a bunch of people with (shall we say) poorly evidenced medical ideas, and there is no surprise there is friction.
The town only had 120 residents. From their perspective, 40 new people is a mass migration. Heck, most towns of this size are slowly decreasing in population. They lack the resources to absorb 40 new people, let alone 40 new nut jobs with bizarre needs.
This town basically is an observatory town, and the population has been pretty stable for decades. As long as the NSF doesn't shut off the GBT (as they keep threatening to), the town won't shrink.
It's an Associated Press article. You'll find the exact same text and photos in paper and digital news sources all over the world (including the U.S.). It was not written by any staff of The Guardian.
What on earth do hostfiles have to do with choosing between Apache or Nginx? Sorry, this is getting silly.
And making an on-topic recommendation like that doesn't appear in any way to be an advertisement, as far as I can tell. What "true motives" are you saying he has? And how do they relate to you, personally?
People don't evade AC comments intentionally. I personally have notifications turned off for AC replies and have no motivation for turning them on. Sorry, if you reply I won't get it unless you sign up for an account. You might as well - everyone knows who you are already.
If you feel that it's OK to spam Slashdot, you shouldn't get so upset if I reply to each one.
Complete and unmitigated BULLSHIT, that is....
Remember "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters"? Help make it a reality again! http://soylentnews.org
How does that justify clogging up everyone else's feed with off-topic spam? Answer: it doesn't.
Seems to me everyone that believes in any "isim" is trying to force us to bend to their neuroses.
https://adblockplus.org/
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Moral of the story: Leave motherfuckers alone.
The way the insane are moving into a town and demanding others change their lives to accommodate them? Those motherfuckers aren't leaving motherfuckers alone. But you support the insane motherfuckers over the sane motherfuckers. Why?
Learn to love Alaska
Brand-specific frequencies?
"I don't mind WiFi signals usually, but that 2.4GHz coming off Netgear routers really gets to me. And don't get me started on the 4G (700MHz) signals coming from my AT&T Android phone; that's why I have to use an iPhone on the US Cellular network!"
Yeah, I can see people believing that.
Hell, I can even imagine wireless providers /marketing/ to people like that. "Use our new HEALTHY-4G network, designed from the ground up for EM-sensitive users! Sure it costs twice as much, but isn't being able to use a phone without worrying worth the price?". The wireless providers could make a mint. It would be like marketing "organic" food, except without actually having to do anything. They may need to recruit the advertisers who work for Monster Cables first, though.
The way the insane are moving into a town and demanding others change their lives to accommodate them?
You'd have a point if that was happening, but I saw nothing mentioned but the new arrivals requesting things at a town hall meeting, and ultimately being ignored.
Making a request is not, IMHO, forcing your will on others.
I even used a reverse example in my first post, that the observatory might ask the new arrivals to stop using radio transmitters if it's discovered they are doing so.
Now to my basic math skills:
120 original people + 40 new people = 160 total people
40 new people / 160 total people = 0.25 , aka 25% of the population.
I would be pretty surprised if 25% of a population was enough, even if all voting en-mass, to force anything on anyone.
I may actually be wrong there, although if so I would agree that situation would be complete bullshit and shouldn't even be possible let alone reality.
Perhaps there are other articles not linked to by slashdot or the guardian that supports the claim that these people are forcing anything?
If so I'll gladly admit ignorance of the situation.
Yes, that is the moral of the story. But the motherfuckers in question won't leave other people alone: they're trying to force people to do stupid shit for no reason.
I already posted a similar reply to someone else, but basically what I said was:
I saw nothing mentioned except the new arrivals requesting things at a town hall meeting, and ultimately being ignored.
I would be surprised if 25% of a population was enough to force anything on anyone via voting or passing new laws. If I am incorrect on that fact then I admit I would revise my previous statements, as well as call bullshit on such a situation.
But so far as The Guardian article linked in the slashdot summary, I didn't see anything more than the new arrivals asking for things and the existing population saying 'no'.
And I don't see any problems with asking.
Because we all laugh at the crazies, and they don't like that. Brits have this amazing power to keep a straight face when talking to people with mental disorders.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
A meeting she and her husband organised to help educate the others about electrosensitivity descended into a slanging match.
I don't know that "Slanging" is, but I doubt they had a meeting marked by heavy cocaine use as Urban Dictionary says.
And I don't see any problems with asking.
At best, it's a waste of other people's time, money, and energy. They have better things to do than to listen to repeated requests made on an unfounded basis.
There's just no reason to suspect that anyone can be bothered by something that won't even offend a radio observatory. I'm sympathetic to the notion that some people might be sensitive to some of this stuff, and just as soon as a study shows that instead of the complete opposite, then they should be able to intrude on other people's time with their requests.
Unless you think there's a problem with the electrosensitivity trials which have happened so far?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This doesn't exactly answer my question. All it does is prove that you have a vendetta against literally everyone.
Yes, what you write is nonsense. You come across as someone with a mental disorder, possibly related to stalking. You imagine that people care about hosts files just like you do, and you post anonymously so that no one can use your own techniques of bashing people with posts until they concede.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
If you didn't notice, you're little personal war had you replying to me yet ignoring someone who was actually asking about your hosts file.
The comment you're replying to has me speaking on your behalf (since you didn't do it) and explaining to them why it works better than other methods, speedwise.
I don't at all question that it's the fastest option for DNS queries and blocking sites by hostname. Back in this original thread you're enjoying linking to, I simply stated that most of us have sufficiently fast computers with CPU cycles to spare and that fastest isn't necessarily best.
P.S. I "went silent" because I don't get notifications of replies from AC's. But since I know you're off your meds this week, I decided to go looking for your replies to see what you're saying this time.
I said your comments aren't trustworthy. I wasn't talking about your software. Like - you can't trust them to be on-topic or relevant or new in any way.
It's not odd. He's either watching for it, or he has his account set up to track AC replies.
Also - why are you talking about yourself in the third person?
I'm not really tasting anything. I don't feel a burn either. I think you overestimate how much I care about this supposed years-long war that I'm not party to.
Your replies are getting even more disjointed. I can't even read this one. This is when you will get the last word - because you're making so little sense there is literally nothing left to reply to.
I'm not saying this as an attack on intelligence, because it's not. It's just that people with schizophrenia tend to see connections between ideas that other people do not. And it makes communication quite difficult.
That would be discriminating against a disability. Depending on who you ask, that disability would either be a psychosomatic/mental disorder or a real illness - but both are probably protected under the ADA.
So all that would do is put a very hard to defeat lawsuit on your hands.
At best, it's a waste of other people's time, money, and energy. They have better things to do than to listen to repeated requests made on an unfounded basis.
Fair enough, I too agree it is a waste of time, but unfortunately short of some mass population cleansing or something equally terrifying, I feel this is still one of the better ways of handling things.
Far from claiming the government works [adjective not needed], it at least seems to be serving its purpose.
Listen to the minority, judge any basis for harm or loss, and act accordingly - even if that action is to reject their claims.
Unless you think there's a problem with the electrosensitivity trials which have happened so far?
Oh no, far from. I agree these people are at best hypochondriacs that are full of shit, and at worse real-life trolls full of shit.
I'd even go so far to say that putting up with the needs of the many over the few is simply one of the prices to pay for living in a civilized society.
That puts the onus on them to change their life style as they want it.
Shy of any real forcing their will on others I may be missing here, my take on the article was they are kinda doing just that.
Don't want to believe there is EM radiation around you? They believe an EM blackout zone such as the one around the observatory makes them happier? Then move to the blackout zone (which they did)
They want to believe florescent lights give them problems? Them replacing their own lights to avoid such perceived problems is the right thing to do.
I'll even grant going so far as requesting others do the same for their benefit isn't at all out of line.
So long as it is a willing and voluntary change that isn't being forced upon them (which is how I read the article) then I see no problem.
It all comes down to voluntary requesting vs forcing upon others.
By your logic, the robber politely asking you to hand over your wallet while pointing a gun at you is not using "force" unless they touch you. I disagree with your assessment of "force".
Learn to love Alaska
By your logic, the robber politely asking you to hand over your wallet while pointing a gun at you is not using "force" unless they touch you. I disagree with your assessment of "force".
Not at all. Once you point the gun at someone, that is force.
NOT pointing a gun at someone and doing the same would be implied force, which still qualifies.
Asking the town hall to make a new law, to which the town hall says NO, and no one comes to any bodily harm nor has a gun pointed at them afterwards however - is not force.
Are you claiming these 40 new arrivals are pointing guns at people or the equivalent?
Are they even threatening violence?
I saw nothing even close to that in the article. No threats implied or otherwise were reported on. No guns were reported to be in use.
Nothing but the normal town hall processes that is democracy.
Wait until you learn what your monitor is putting out!
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
If people with an irrational belief demand that others do more or less onerous things for their belief, that's a problem. In this case, the irrational woman is loudly attempting to force storekeepers into changing their lighting to accommodate her delusions.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
If people with an irrational belief demand that others do more or less onerous things for their belief, that's a problem. In this case, the irrational woman is loudly attempting to force storekeepers into changing their lighting to accommodate her delusions.
I will admit I did not read that far in to the article; I read the summary and figured it was more front page clickbait. If this woman is indeed trying to force other people to do things for no good reason I would tell her she can go shop somewhere else. If someone from the town agrees that the lights are a problem and wants to open a new store with different lights, that's fine too but I don't see their freedom to ban WiFi in their town as being something that extends to being able to dictate how others in town do their business on a level as fundamental as lighting fixtures.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
So now I am stupid because I point out your trolling? Keep it up APK, doesn't bother me any, and just demonstrates the mental disorder to everyone.
You didn't easily shut me up, as I have a registered account with good karma, I cannot be shut up. Have fun trying though.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
First of all I should mention that I am a resident of Green Bank WV and the people mentioned in the article are known to me. Including Diane Schou.
Just wanted to say that while the cause of their symptoms can be argued about endlessly the symptoms they have are real and they can be debilitating. The whole issue is no joke to them and as was said by Charlie Meckna, "Do you think I want this?, No!"
I don't think any of them are trying to pull a fast one or indulging in attention seeking behaviour. The ones I have met are just plain folks.
UNIX: 'cuz you can tattoo it on your knuckles!
So, does the town distribute a tinfoil hat to every man, woman, child and dog that live there?
TV-MA - the Beginning: "Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the Beaver last night?"
APK, they make meds for your issues, you should really look into them. You haven't ever won an argument except in your own head.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
I attempted to reply to every point you have, but unfortunately your style is so bad even the lamness filter doesn't like it.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?