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Anonymous Doxes Trump, But Leaked Info Underwhelms

Mic.com reports that the "total war" declared by Anonymous against presidential candidate Donald Trump has resulted in a grandly presented leak of some personal information. Items alleged to be personal information about Trump have been posted to PasteBin; these include a social security number purported to be his, contact information for some Trump business associates (including his agent and his lawyer's office), and some information about his family relationships. As Tech Insider points out, though, the YouTube video announcing the dump seems to overstate its significance, in that none of the information leaked is new or earth-shattering -- most of it could be quickly gleaned from a Google search or a visit to Wikipedia.

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  1. Bullshit video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't care about anonymous's childish and sensationalized political views, that's not how democracy works. Hackers shouldn't influence votes any more than the wealthy should. Either they found real dirt or they didn't. It seems they didn't.

    1. Re:Bullshit video by arbiter1 · · Score: 2

      Only thing it will do is fuel Trump's campaign even more like All the Media has been doing for him so he hasn't spend 1/5th what everyone else does on ad's.

    2. Re:Bullshit video by emazing · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We don't live in a democracy, especially one that works. Mainstream media has way too much of an affect on people's choice as it is. If some people want to publish a sensationalized video with facts that are true, so be it.

    3. Re:Bullshit video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fitting, because Anonymous is a bullshit group.

      Not even script kiddies now, just firing up Google.

    4. Re:Bullshit video by davester666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Clearly Bernie Sanders is behind this attack, and therefore, Bernie Sanders is Anonymous. Arrest him!

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    5. Re:Bullshit video by DontHackMeBro · · Score: 1

      The Internet - where 12 year old morons influence the national debate.

    6. Re:Bullshit video by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... Clearly Bernie Sanders is behind this attack ...

      [ Citation please ! }

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    7. Re:Bullshit video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      With a name like "donthackmebro" I'm not sure you're in a position to speak on the subject without implicating yourself.

    8. Re:Bullshit video by davester666 · · Score: 1, Redundant

      whoosh

      google "trump sanders protesters"

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    9. Re:Bullshit video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Effect, you moron.

    10. Re:Bullshit video by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Either they found real dirt or they didn't. It seems they didn't.

      Which proves my theory - that he's covering something up. [swivels eyes from side to side]

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    11. Re:Bullshit video by butzwonker · · Score: 1

      *sigh* In a working democracy, mainstream media should have a significant effect on people's choices. Would you rather prefer uninformed voters who draw all their 'information' from radical niche media, bloggers and wacky Youtube videos?

    12. Re:Bullshit video by butzwonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks to something called the Internet people today have much broader access to independent sources of news, information, interpretations and opinions than ever before in history.

      You might not like to face the truth, but there are good reasons for claiming that this is also one of the main reasons for an emergence of new forms of radicalism, a general increase of stupidity and a substantial decline of political culture ...

    13. Re:Bullshit video by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      I'm wondering: is this a real doxing, or an intentional feed from the campaign?

    14. Re:Bullshit video by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      "Hackers" are what brought to light the fact that Clinton had a private e-mail server.

      Are you saying that we would have been better off knowing she thought she was above the law?

    15. Re:Bullshit video by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

      Precisely. IMHO, this and the protesting is going to backfire HARD because one of the motivating factors of Trump supporters is that they are sick of "children" throwing temper tantrums to get what they want and the "parents" caving every time. It's not as though there aren't legal ways for them to get what they want but they have to convince a majority of people to go along with them which doesn't happen very often.

    16. Re:Bullshit video by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
      As described by José Ortega y Gasset in 1929's The Revolt of the Masses

      In this work, Ortega traces the genesis of the "mass-man" and analyzes his constitution en route to describing the rise to power and action of the masses in society. Ortega is throughout quite critical of both the masses and the mass-men of which they are made up, contrasting "noble life and common life" and excoriating the barbarism and primitivism he sees in the mass-man.

      Read it, it may save your life. Also relevant is Spengler's The Decline of the West

    17. Re:Bullshit video by malditaenvidia · · Score: 1

      See? This is what happens when moot gets a job at google.

  2. Enemies of anonymity by DontHackMeBro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By causing trouble anonymously, Anonymous are technically working as agents for those entities (such as Russia) which would like to eliminate anonymity.

    1. Re:Enemies of anonymity by Xest · · Score: 1

      That sounds like an awfully circular argument - no one can use anonymity to try and pursue their political views because it might cause anonymity to be taken away. If people can't use anonymity for things like pursuing political views then what's the point in it anyway? Something that's there, but can't be used, is about as useful as something just not being there in the first place.

    2. Re:Enemies of anonymity by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Being able to be political active anonymously is necessary where those who have to money and power to subvert democracy would subvert the lives of those who are politically active against them. Get them fired by threatening their employers, the employer firing them because the employer prefers government favouring them, get them arrested on spurious charges, government declares them a security risk and denies them or their company employment and that is just for a start, there is also threatening family members in similar manner and never forget early morning law enforcement raids at gunpoint with law enforcers eager to fire, typically with seconds of issuing a warning or even firing simultaneously to the warning. "Anonymous" exists because there are enormously corrupt psychopathic authoritarians who would attack and destroy them or even kill them. "Anonymous" is not the problem, "Anonymous" is the symptom of the problem. The problems a secret conspiracies and corruption, perversion of justice and the laws, corrupt main stream media and the willingness of those involved in the corruption to resort to extremes of violence, especially of the "Stop Resisting" variety even when the victims are unconscious they are still further beaten for refusing to move. Houses trashed, goods stolen for investigation, families brutalised, joke all you want idiot, you wont be laughing when it's your turn and that level of corruption means it more random chance than any act you do, that provokes an attack.

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    3. Re:Enemies of anonymity by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      By causing trouble anonymously, Anonymous are technically working as agents for those entities (such as Russia) which would like to eliminate anonymity.

      That's like saying that by exercising your right to free speech and offending people you are working as an agent for those who would like to limit free speech that offends people.

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  3. False Flag Operation? by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, this has all the hallmarks of an amateurish false flag operation against Anonymous. The track record of the "real" Anonymous shows a level and depth of skill that does not correlate with this lowball drivel.

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    1. Re:False Flag Operation? by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      I'd mod the above as insightful if I had the points.
      Will the 'real' anonymous please stand up, and out the amateurs who are parading as them.

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    2. Re:False Flag Operation? by dmomo · · Score: 1

      This has crossed my mind too. I guess that's what you get with a decentralized (supposedly) action group.

    3. Re:False Flag Operation? by dugancent · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Right...So called Anonymous is the lamest group of blowhards on the internet. Lowball drivel is all they know.

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    4. Re:False Flag Operation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no "real" anonymous.

      Anyone can claim to be anonymous and be as valid as any other group claiming to be so. That's the core nature of the philosophy.

    5. Re:False Flag Operation? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Well said Anonymous!

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    6. Re:False Flag Operation? by Guy+From+V · · Score: 1

      lol

    7. Re:False Flag Operation? by Kohath · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And if you want a Trump elected, this sort of thing helps him out a lot. Other things that help him:
      - any negative comments from Bush or Romney
      - any negative comments from Mexican government leaders
      - protests like the ones in Chicago. The more disruptive the protests, the more it helps Trump.
      - any big business CEOs or Chamber of Commerce leaders speaking out against him
      - any negative comments from Obama.
      - any other foreign leaders or celebrities speaking out against him

      If you want him to win easily, keep it up.

    8. Re:False Flag Operation? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      It's weird how nobody ever accuses an Anonymous operation of being a false flag while it's in the early boasting phase. Then it's always "Anonymous is going to fuck them up good this time". After that operation turns into a huge failure, then it was clearly a false flag from the beginning.

    9. Re:False Flag Operation? by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

      That is the problem with anonymity, it is impossible to protect your reputation if you are anonymous (even if they were not childish twits half the time). Anyone can do wonderful or horrific things in the name of anonymous and there is nothing anyone else can do about it. In fact people can even take credit for what anonymous does by letting themselves "get caught" then claim they are the real anonymous and that all the new actions are by imposers. How could you prove they were not the original anonymous?

    10. Re:False Flag Operation? by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 2

      I am on record here with concerns of a false flag operation back when the very first word of this so-called operation (your "early boasting phase) started.

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    11. Re:False Flag Operation? by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 1

      Perhaps IT'S A TRAP! Maybe the goal is to goad the "real" (notice the quotes that imply some ambiguity) Anonymous into a very big action with the purpose of outing them?

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    12. Re:False Flag Operation? by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've said it before and I'll say it again, this has all the hallmarks of an amateurish false flag operation against Anonymous. The track record of the "real" Anonymous shows a level and depth of skill that does not correlate with this lowball drivel.

      It's the same thing with the user on slashdot called "Anonymous Coward". Sometimes, "Anonymous Coward" can be super insightful and eloquent, the rest of the time, I feel the FBI is trying to run a false flag operation against its reputation by spouting off spammy, racist, and idiotic comments under its handle. The FBI truly has no shame.

    13. Re:False Flag Operation? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The track record of the "real" Anonymous shows a level and depth of skill that does not correlate with this lowball drivel.

      That's a load of crap. Anonymous attacks come and go all the time. On the odd occasion the kids managed to get someone skillful to actually boost their credibility and help do something stupid online. That doesn't make them any more or less "real".

      Anonymous is and always has been a group of randoms. In that group will be some professional hackers, and some 12 year old racists thinking they're internet tough guys hoping their mothers don't realise their favourite website shows nasty pictures. Today we got the latter, but they are still "real" in the sense of what the Anonymous group means.

    14. Re:False Flag Operation? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Maybe you missed the whole #GamerGate thing... The problem with Anonymous is that since anyone can use that flag and it's impossible to verify, sometimes you get great good and more often you get childish asshattery and criminality.

      Anonymous and it's offshoot GamerGate need to recognize this and form some kind of organization, because other simply disclaiming the actions of those using the name for malice is meaningless. The only way to protect yourself from people using your name for bad stuff is to have some way to positively identify members.

      Anonymity is a good thing, but it also has some severe limitations when trying to organize around it.

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    15. Re:False Flag Operation? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      So basically any one who criticises Trump is helping him win? And any one who praises Trump is helping him win?

      So the only way not to help Trump win is to remain silent, which helps Trump win too. So Trump is bound to win whatever anyone does.

      There seems to be a logical flaw here somewhere.

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    16. Re:False Flag Operation? by Kohath · · Score: 1

      If a well-respected person criticized Trump in exactly the right way, it might be bad for him. But this is America and we don't have any well-respected people.

    17. Re:False Flag Operation? by Chas · · Score: 2

      Okay, this isn't what has happened.

      What's happened is that a good chunk of the US is fed up with the entire Washington DC Establishment.
      At this point, it's essentially a political mono-culture with two major social cliques.
      They've been playing hot-potato with power in the various arms of government for most of the last 80 years.
      In that time, the country has become a gigantic shithole for the average citizen/family.
      Both sides claim they'll fix everything. But the country just keeps getting progressively more and more screwed.

      And people aren't voting for Trump because they think he'll actually fix something. Likely he's going to buttfuck the country too.
      They're doing this because they're sending a gigantic fuck-you-gramme to the DC Establishment. If there's going to be suffering anyhow, they're going to have to shoulder their share of the burden.

      So, after 4-8 years of dealing with a fucking unwiped ass like Trump, MAYBE, just maybe the politicians might be inclined to actually DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS and fix the economy instead of wasting time, taxpayer money, and resources on stupid pork projects and drafting shitty, protectionist laws where they've piled in even more pork.

      Now I'm not going to vote for Trump (I'm still sane). But a realize what's moving his campaign.

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    18. Re:False Flag Operation? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      I hear Vladimir Putin kind of likes the guy.

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    19. Re:False Flag Operation? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Will the 'real' anonymous please stand up...?

      Very funny

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    20. Re:False Flag Operation? by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Probably the best ammunition against Trump is the fact that Putin likes him.

    21. Re:False Flag Operation? by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      What? You think Trump did it to himself?

      On second thought, I wouldn't put it past him...

    22. Re:False Flag Operation? by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Utah is a special case. Other places Romney is just another establishment voice.

  4. Trump is untouchable by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    This just goes to show that Trump is untouchable.

    Most people have something to hide. But Trump has been so public for so long, that anything even vaguely interesting was discovered and unveiled long ago.

    This is exactly why "trumped" up reports of things like racism don't hold water and don't affect Trump in the polls - because most people in America know his history with things like choosing a black woman as w winner on the Apprentice (someone who supports his candidacy now BTW), or his supposed hatred of immigrants when everyone knows he married a few (and probably slept with many more).

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    1. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Most people have something to hide. But Trump has been so public for so long, that anything even vaguely interesting was discovered and unveiled long ago.

      So utterly clean and free of crime connections despite wallowing in cesspits like New York property development and Nevada casinos? Maybe he can sell you a bridge?

    2. Re:Trump is untouchable by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is he undergoing an FBI investigation like another candidate?

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    3. Re:Trump is untouchable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How is New York property development crime? It's legal business. And he's not in Vegas Casinos, he's in Atlantic city casinos.

      Just because he operates in a particular business does not mean he actually is engaged in a crime.

    4. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Try comprehending what you read and look "cesspit" up in a dictionary if that helps.

    5. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      So arguing for the lesser of two evils? I was expressing an opinion that I do not think Trump is "untouchable" and your lesser of two evils argument is not relevant to that in any way at all. Please try something less boring than noise for the purpose of distraction.other

    6. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      And he's not in Vegas Casinos, he's in Atlantic city casinos.

      Are you seriously suggesting that the building in Las Vegas with Trump's name in large letters on the front is not his casino and also suggesting that Atlantic City gambling is squeaky clean?

      Why do people pretend to be so stupid?

    7. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 2

      There's been a lot of stuff like this for years:
      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/memory-lapse-trump-seeks-distance-advisor-past-ties/story?id=34600826
      http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/31/politics/trump-mob-mafia/
      http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news1222_trump.html

      That's just what google turned up today so don't blame me if you don't like the politics of any of those sites.

      Trump talks like a gangster due to practice talking to the real thing.

    8. Re:Trump is untouchable by kuzb · · Score: 1

      All elections are essentially arguing for the lesser of a group of evils.

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    9. Re:Trump is untouchable by Jack9 · · Score: 2

      Trying to leverage the reputation of a city's history of corruption into some kind of appearance of inpropriety is pathetic.

      Trump's name (along with Bill Clinton and others) in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book. That's something to hide.

      Stay out of the voting booth, if you're too emotionally unstable understand the difference between tangible facts and the fantasies you hope will come up.

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    10. Re: Trump is untouchable by Bartles · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about Hillary Clinton or Harry Reid?

    11. Re:Trump is untouchable by Darinbob · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And yet people claim he's a great business person despite the actual evidence of all his failures.

    12. Re:Trump is untouchable by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      ... Trump talks like a gangster due to practice talking to the real thing ...

      Contrast that with that 'lawyer' inside the White House who is practically the biggest motherfooking gangster of all time

      Even after Snowden expose how the American government has been eavesdropping on us, Obama came out accusing Snowden as a traitor, and vowing to continue his Saddam Hussein style of wiping his ass with our Constitution and Bill of Right

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    13. Re:Trump is untouchable by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I see a picture of Hillary Clinton wallowing in shit. Appears accurate.

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    14. Re:Trump is untouchable by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Even after Snowden expose how the American government has been eavesdropping on us, Obama came out accusing Snowden as a traitor, and vowing to continue his Saddam Hussein style of wiping his ass with our Constitution and Bill of Right

      "This guys a bad guy and you know thereâ(TM)s still a thing called execution."

      "You know, spies in the old days used to be executed"

    15. Re:Trump is untouchable by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just being nice to black people or marrying an immigrant doesn't mean you can't still be racist. Racism isn't just a blind hatred of other races, it's doing things and making policies that disproportionately affect certain racial groups.

      Similarly, just because he has hired women and married some, doesn't meant he can't have sexist views. It's not like there is a shortage of sexist things he has said. I'd also point out that it's pretty obvious that being attractive (to Trump) was a massive advantage for women on The Apprentice.

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    16. Re:Trump is untouchable by gerddie · · Score: 3, Funny

      As an outside observer I think the main divide between Republicans and Democrats is that of idealists and pragmatics.

      I think it's more like Jarod Kintz put it in This Book is Not FOR SALE: “There exists a big circus tent, and the right entrance is named The Republicans, and the left entrance is called The Democrats. People argue over which is the correct path, not realizing everyone inside is a clown.”

    17. Re:Trump is untouchable by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Two words:
      Chicago politics
      If we are going to crucify someone by things associated with location then Obama would be just as tied to Chicago politics as Trump would be to AC gambling.

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    18. Re:Trump is untouchable by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Most people have something to hide. But Trump has been so public for so long, that anything even vaguely interesting was discovered and unveiled long ago.

      He still won't admit the truth about that poor creature that lives on his head.

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    19. Re:Trump is untouchable by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Well. Yes.

      IF it comes down to a Clinton/Trump general I'm voting Trump. Short of them reforming the vote laws so we stop doing 'first past the post' and a legitimate 3rd candidate showing up.

      I don't like Trump. But I loathe Clinton. Her family has continually shown that they think they're above the law. The "Clinton Foundation" is little more than a slush fund. 6 out of her top 10 contributors are banks she voted to bail out while in the Senate.

      And is "Slick Willie" the guy you really want as First Gentleman? The guy that settled a rape case out of court and then was prohibited from practicing law for 5 years in Arkansas? With the Clintons in a political office I know exactly what I'm getting and because of that I would vote for Inanimate Carbon Rod over her.

    20. Re:Trump is untouchable by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 2

      Wait. So you honestly believe that the guy who has bankrupted several of his own companies, the guy who is encouraging physical violence at his rallies, the guy advocating for targeting Muslims, and the guy advocating for spending billions and billions of dollars on building a wall is the LESSER of two evils? I'm not saying the Clintons are without sin, absolutely they've got some dirty laundry. But man, it's a real stretch calling Trump the lesser of those two "evils".

    21. Re:Trump is untouchable by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Nope. Just pointing out the obvious. You implied he's dirty, and yet he's not the one undergoing an FBI investigation. I wonder why he's not under any criminal investigations - maybe he is clean?

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    22. Re:Trump is untouchable by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      He had a bunch of failures in the 80's but came back from them, what's more successful than taking a lot of risks and surviving?

      That's why you will never understand Trump, nor those who support him (not saying I support him, just that I understand those that do).

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    23. Re:Trump is untouchable by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure he wasn't actually born in the USA. I think he was born in Loompa land. It's pretty clear that he's a Ooompa Loompa.

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    24. Re:Trump is untouchable by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Yes, and that says more about how Evil I find the Clintons than anything else.

      It's my vote, I get to do with it what I want.

    25. Re:Trump is untouchable by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

      Dude, you need therapy. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not a smart strategy. But, hey, maybe you're into that kind of thing. It's OK. He has no chance at winning the General Election anyway.

    26. Re:Trump is untouchable by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
    27. Re:Trump is untouchable by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Look at the polls of him vs Clinton in a theoretical general. He most certainly does.

      That said, there is a lot more in play if Trump wins.

      For example the GOP already hates him, meaning they might actually have to create a new party to leave him behind (and run in 2020). Congress might actually work together against the president, something that certainly won't happen with Clinton.

      I would take 4 years of Trump over 8 years of Clinton. Additionally if you look past what he says to get his core voters he doesn't have half bad ideas. Protectionism is what helped build US's industry. An import Tax from China would be an entertaining shit show but might cause companies to actually spring up in the void.

      Or you can vote Clinton and get more of the same. Who knows what she'll believe in 6 months once Bernie stops pulling her left.

    28. Re:Trump is untouchable by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      We only have his word that he's successful though. He's also being sued by relatively recent bad deals, forget the Taj Mahal fiasco he's been sued over casinos 12 years ago. He points out he never had personal bankruptcy but that's just passing the buck that his biggest deal was a flop which he was primarily responsible for personally. More recently, Trump Mortgage, Trump Travel, Trump Magazine, and other flops where he was more interested in pushing his name than making sound business decisions. And Trump University which was an outright scam.

      For someone who starts off his professional life with $200 million, he should have a few billion by now even if he was lousy, and tens of billions if he was as good as he claims he is. But he's listing his name as an asset which doesn't sound like something normally accepted by accountants, however most of his big claims are really just having his name on other people's products like Trump Tower.

      I just don't think he's all that good at business, and his fans are pretty gullible for believing him.

    29. Re:Trump is untouchable by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

      Look at the polls of him vs Clinton in a theoretical general. He most certainly does.

      He most certainly does not.

      And no, he does not have good ideas. It's been pretty well documented by some pretty smart folks that his policies would be financial suicide for our country. His ideas go beyond protectionism and instead veer out into utter fantasy.

    30. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Wow - marked me foe already? Just for pointing out that Trump has gambling interests? How incredibly thin skinned.

    31. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Obama is not running.
      Funny how even if Trump was by some magic squeaky clean despite the people he associated with he's still seen as wonderful despite his gambling empire feeding off the poor with rigged games and a government licence to do so. It's perfectly legal for the house to always come out ahead but they are still rigged games and it's perfectly legal for government to keep others who don't bid on the limited gambling licences out of the game, but he's still gained the benefit of governments preventing others from competing with him.
      So a parasite that depends on big government to allow him to prey on the people - and that's if he's been up to nothing else.

    32. Re:Trump is untouchable by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Hillary isn't close to the topic and Obama is out of the running, thus nowhere near a "lesser of two evils" stupid argument.

      Have you considered that there are people that think both Hillary and Trump should not be trusted with the job?

    33. Re:Trump is untouchable by jrumney · · Score: 1

      So... his supporters actually like the fact that he has already established that his actions don't match his words?

    34. Re:Trump is untouchable by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      You don't know anything about business, do you. That's common when you're in business. It's bullshit. Just call him a bunch of names because they don't want him to become president. They want the status quo.

      Don't buy into it. Think. They really hate it when people think. Politicians could lose their jobs. They don't want that.

    35. Re:Trump is untouchable by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      He didn't start off with $200 million, he didn't inherit anything until his dad died in the 90s, by which time Trump was already a billionaire. He started with a loan of $1 million.

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    36. Re:Trump is untouchable by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      There's nothing anyone can do that doesn't disproportionately effect certain racial groups. Affirmative action disproportionately negatively effects asian students.

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  5. Anonymous has to ratchet down their boasting by dmomo · · Score: 1

    And save it for when they actually have something. They are starting to sound like Best North Korea. They "exposed" Hillary recently, but all they did was mention public knowledge. I guess you get what you pay for.

  6. No shit, sherlock by gman003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The man publicly advocates war crimes, jokes about shooting people in the street, and managed to turn a televised debate into a literal argument over his dick size. If he managed to keep anything *worse* than that secret, it would have to be something like sacrificing babies to satan, or orphanage arson, or maybe being literal Hitler with a bad wig and a spray-tan.

  7. This isn't the Drumpfster fire you are looking for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But then again at least we can huddle around burning Drumpfsters after he causes the US economy to collapse.

  8. I'm a trumpther by slashdime · · Score: 1

    What they needed to d0x was his birth certificate in long form. I'm not certain Trump is from this planet.

    1. Re:I'm a trumpther by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      What they needed to d0x was his birth certificate in long form. I'm not certain Trump is from this planet.

      Of course not. If he wasn't a lizardman, he wouldn't be allowed to run for president.

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  9. SSN by ichthus · · Score: 1

    Does the social security number originate from a state in which Trump never resided? Because, if so, that would be news worthy. Amiright?

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    1. Re:SSN by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      i remember seeing a bit about if you knew which hospital and time they were born you could get first 2 sections of numbers of his SSN. just figuring out last 4 is the thing. But really knowing Trump's gonna really mean you can steal his identity? I bet Trump has a team of professionals probably protecting his name and his # at all times like his own personal LifeLock company.

    2. Re:SSN by jittles · · Score: 1

      And how did that work out for the CEO of LifeLock? Well maybe they finally protected him the 14th time...

  10. Again, this can only help Cruz by damn_registrars · · Score: 1, Informative

    Hillary can beat Drumpf without working too hard. Sanders can beat Drumpf without even needing to open his mouth. Frankly the democrats could run a ficus tree and almost certainly defeat Drumpf.

    The only person who has anything to gain from having Drumpf defeated before November is Cruz as he is the only GOP contender left who could possibly win the nomination if Drumpf was run out.

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    1. Re:Again, this can only help Cruz by skipkent · · Score: 2

      Hillary can beat Drumpf without working too hard. Sanders can beat Drumpf without even needing to open his mouth. Frankly the democrats could run a ficus tree and almost certainly defeat Drumpf.

      The only person who has anything to gain from having Drumpf defeated before November is Cruz as he is the only GOP contender left who could possibly win the nomination if Drumpf was run out.

      Hillary has no chance. Trump can work the show and has owned beauty pageants. It wouldn't be beneath him to run a Ms. Bill Raped Me USA and the woman would proudly participate to have their stories heard. How can the SJW rally against rape culture then Hillary is an enabler to the extreme. Debates he can have rape victims font row, have them at rallies, etc.

    2. Re: Again, this can only help Cruz by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      She already confirmed she didn't send any classified material, so it's just a witch hunt.

      Correction: According to news sources, some of it was retroactively classified.

      Also according to some sources, the same thing happened with Colin Powell and Condeleza Rice, with no outcry.

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    3. Re:Again, this can only help Cruz by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Not the only one, Cruz and Kasich are dead even right now in terms of chances.

    4. Re:Again, this can only help Cruz by Princeofcups · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hillary can beat Drumpf without working too hard. Sanders can beat Drumpf without even needing to open his mouth. Frankly the democrats could run a ficus tree and almost certainly defeat Drumpf.
       

      That's what we said about George W., and look what happened. Agreed, it took some ballot stuffing to make it official, but it was not the landslide for Gore everyone predicted. People voted for that dumb fuck. They will vote for Trump, in droves.

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    5. Re: Again, this can only help Cruz by wertigon · · Score: 1

      You are making the assumption people will vote for Hillary because they like Hillary.

      If it's Hillary vs Trump, many many people will vote Hillary just to spite Trump. Like, most mexicans, most blacks, most women.

      Hillary has this one in the bag already, of the three remaining Kasich is the only one that will give her even remotely any trouble whatsoever. The only thing stopping Hillary would be a major health problem like leukemia.

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    6. Re:Again, this can only help Cruz by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      That is assuming that Hillary isn't put in jail before then

      Here's something a lot of people are conveniently forgetting in this case - we don't tend to imprison the accused, especially when their trials are an unknown distance out in the future and no charges have yet been brought up. Regardless of what you think about the email situation, the chances of it making it to trial before November are about zero at this point - the government simply doesn't move that fast regardless of who is pulling the levers. Being as right now the allegations all come down to "it looks like she might have thought about doing something nefarious" there is no reason to get excited about this.

      emails in a server that any hacker could get

      Do you have information on the security of the email server? I haven't seen any information on the security of its setup one way or the other. There has been plenty made of it being "in her house" or something like that but I haven't heard anything on how secure the setup was - or was not. Considering a standard conservative mantra is to never trust the government, why would it be automatically less secure at her house than in a government installation? It's accepted that she had someone else do the setup, are you assuming that person to have been technologically incompetent?

      The polls that show Hillary beats Trumps are made up

      That is a whole lot of fabrication, there. We've seen a large number of national polls support that, and not a single one showing the opposite. Why would all these different polling organizations make up the same results?

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    7. Re:Again, this can only help Cruz by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Ficus tree leans a bit too far left for my liking.

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    8. Re: Again, this can only help Cruz by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      And both used email despite the fact that at that time their departments didn't have email servers. They should have not decided to break the law and use email. Using email was a crime that the Republicans did. Republicans did.

      If you had managed to hold your knee down long enough to read my post, you might have noted that neither it nor what it quoted said anything about e-mail servers. They were both about retroactively classified e-mail.

      If you wanted to fault me, you could have pointed out that I should have called it a clarification rather than a correction to the post I was responding to.

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  11. Re:Is that it? by Z80a · · Score: 1

    It's the side effect of becoming activist brats.

  12. Re:Morons by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    There is literally more information on Wikipedia about him.

    Shhh QUIET! You've revealed their super-secret source of info for doxxen teh Trump!

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  13. Not far enough by s.petry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Come now, if you are going to go the conspiracy route you have to look deeper than a single layer. Trump is being attacked by _everyone_ except the public who is supporting him.

    I find it much more likely that this is a two-for. Try and make Trump look bad and at the same time make Anonymous look bad. The elitist pricks holding power don't like either of them very much.

    All that goodness out in the open, if Anonymous does not come out and declare victimization then it is most likely yet a poor mission by them. Not everything they have done has been successful or grand. I find the latter more likely than any conspiracy. Anonymous also threatened Hillary and did a bit of damage. Nothing that the corrupt media could not cover up, unfortunately.

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    1. Re:Not far enough by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

      You are overestimating the perceived estimation by the establishment of the intelligence of the average voter.

    2. Re:Not far enough by Chas · · Score: 1

      The average IQ in the US is approximately 98.
      The group IQ of the US populace is somewhere around 0.0000003266666666666667

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  14. Anonymous isn't one person by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone can be Anonymous. It's not possible to have a false flag.

    If it seems like goobers did this, then probably goobers did this. And some past Anonymous operations have also been seemingly done by goobers.

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    1. Re:Anonymous isn't one person by hesiod · · Score: 1

      Anyone CAN BE Anonymous, and someone can imitate Anonymous. They are not the same thing.

  15. Re: Why the Butthurtness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    8 years too late.

  16. Re:Morons by alzoron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The thing about Doxxing is that we already know most of the "dirt" about Trump. Most of the stuff about him that would kill other potential candidates he wears like a badge of honor. His whole campaign basically depends on being the biggest piece of shit candidate running to make all the small people feel like their faults aren't really all that bad and maybe even ok.

  17. Do they believe in democracy? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

    ... I don't care about anonymous's childish and sensationalized political views, that's not how democracy works ...

    I've been around the block quite a few times, and amongst the hackers' group I've encountered, anonymous is the most Marxist in nature

    And regarding doxing ... they can't even begin to dox shit

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  18. Re:Why the Butthurtness? by kuzb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean like when you voted G.W. Bush in?

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  19. Re:Why the Butthurtness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    When we might be giving an amoral, incompetent buffoon command of the world's most powerful military, a stockpile of nuclear weapons, and control of the largest economy on the globe, yes, it is fully right to be concerned.

    The time for your concern was 2008. Now, after 8 years of Obama, the military is a shambles. Around the world our enemies advance while our friends retreat and the economy is still a sputtering wreck. How about a real change this time? I don't know about you, but I'm ready to cast my lot with Donald Trump. I'm tired of being led by fools, idiots and weaklings. I want somebody who fights hard for my interests, who doesn't take shit from our enemies and restores the greatness of America. It's time to think big and Trump is the only candidate who does that. You want 4 more years of the usual Washington DC bullshit? Vote for Hillary. You want real change, restoration of American greatness and a booming economy? Vote for Trump.

  20. I **DO** want Donald J. Trump elected by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Although I was not born in the United States of America, I am still an American, and I am sick and tired of what has happened to my government for the past 30+ years !

    It is time we kick out the D.C. establishment and get somebody else in

    I am not saying that Donald Trump will be a great POTUS, but at the very least, compare to what Obama has done (for the past 7 years) and to what George W. Bush did (during his 8 year tenure) no matter how hard Donald J. Trump tries to screw up, he won't be as bad as Obama/GW Bush

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    1. Re:I **DO** want Donald J. Trump elected by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Well you might be old enough to remember when the media, and left-wing groups were doing the same thing against Regan. The only thing they did was hand him the presidency, and it looks like they're doing it again. Which is okay with me, since the amount of benefit to Canada that came from his presidency was enormous.

      And considering the amount of stuff up shit's creek these days with the media fawning all over Trudeau Jr., we're going to need all the help we can get. With luck, it'll be enough to head off Jr., from placing wage and price controls like Sr., did.

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    2. Re:I **DO** want Donald J. Trump elected by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Informative

      the media, and left-wing groups

      You don't really have a left wing in the US. Even someone like Bernie Saunders is only a moderate social democrat by world standards.

      And the media is left wing in the same way that a piece of rocks is left wing, i.e. it's not a raving right wing lunatic.

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    3. Re:I **DO** want Donald J. Trump elected by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You don't really have a left wing in the US

      You really don't know what you're talking about. There are plenty of "left wing" groups in the US. In ye olde Regan days it was the precursor to the groups of today. And seriously, if you don't think people like the Black Panthers or people like Bill Ayers weren't left wing you understand less about politics then you think.

      And the media is left wing in the same way that a piece of rocks is left wing, i.e. it's not a raving right wing lunatic.

      Anyone left of me is a right-wing lunatic huh? And you wonder why people are voting for Trump...

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  21. You really want to see pictures of real sacrifice? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ... sacrificing babies to satan ...

    I am getting really sick of you guys!

    The Christian people are being sacrificed by the jihadists, as we speak, what are you guys doing here?

    Pissing contest over whether or not Donald J. Trump is the right person?

    Wake up, dudes , please!! Real Christians are being slaughtered, in the name of religion !

    The link below is a very gory picture, of a religious sacrifice, whereby a Christian Lady being slaughtered

    Be forewarned: Don't click the link if you ain't got the stomach !

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FRBJ...

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  22. Re:Why the Butthurtness? by wertigon · · Score: 2

    The US military is all but in shambles. By every conceivable measurement the US military is the strongest, meanest military on the planet. In monetary wealth alone, the US military has as much funding as the entire rest of the world. The US military tech is top notch and compared to any other country outscales that country by atleast a factor 10 if not more in sheer numbers, and often they have a much better technology (compare for instance tanks - chinese have 500, The US has over 6 000 - and the US tanks are vastly superior to boot).

    See https://www.military1.com/all/... for more info.

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  23. What did you expect? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    A loudmouth who speaks before he thinks. You honestly thought there's something left he didn't already blare out himself? Embarrassing? What's embarrassing to a man that has no shame?

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  24. Re:Why the Butthurtness? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

    GWB was not amoral or especially self-serving -- he committed immoral acts, but I see no reason to believe that he didn't mean well and believe he was doing good. Cheney probably didn't mean well, but he technically wasn't president.

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  25. He's Not Stupid by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    Did you DOX his friends, family, and business contacts?

  26. Re:What happened to Anonymous supporting free spee by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    Poor A/C do you think your idle cannot withstand this? What of his tax returns? What will you do when find his taxes are like his, words?

  27. Re:Crud PUPPY by Chas · · Score: 1

    Crud PUPPY.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    You fail at nerd trivia...Turn in your credentials and report for summary mulching...

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  28. The "Real" Anonymous? by Chas · · Score: 1

    I thought Anonymous could be anybody/everybody.

    Now we're going to start classifying who is and isn't a member of a completely faceless organization?

    Do you see the irony/stupidity?

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  29. Real racism is far deeper with Democrats by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Not racist because his ACTIONS are not racist. Something you and others cannot seem to, but the black population plainly does.

    Meanwhile the Democrats pretend to not be racist, while as a whole the organization is literally farming black people for power. "No need to reach for that first rung of success" Democrats say, "instead here's some free cheese - now go and breed".

    Harsh words but true. Hillary even puts on a fake southern accent for black audiences, in part so she seems more homey but also a snide reference to her being the modern plantation owner for the plantation that is the USA...

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  30. Re:Morons by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    No news is bad news. As long as the media's talking about him, they're not talking about someone else. His advantage in this race is he knows how to manipulate the media much better than the career politicians. And also, apparently, much better than the people the career politicians hire to manipulate the media for them.

    What's interesting to me is that the Koch brothers and RNC Leadership are pouring millions of dollars into smearing him and it's having very little effect. The powers that be are used to just buying a race and the input from the electorate has always been a formality. It never even occurred to them that it could turn out any other way. Trump could actually be the first candidate actually chosen by the people in decades. And it turns out that those people are easily influenced by a platform of racism and a third grade vocabulary.

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  31. Re:Morons by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    What makes it a bit more perplexing is that the country is not undergoing any economic turmoil or anything like that. Trump is simply a reflection of the hate against *you-know-who*. All his "power" is derived from our (even Koch, et al) attention, offered on a sliver platter. We should be rewarded for our supporting roles. And we just might reap those rewards. And then the voters will cry that they were manipulated, anything to avoid responsibility for their own stupid choices. If Trump is truly a "man of the people", then fuck the people. They're nothing but a bunch of little antipathic dictators.

    "Will you run an engine lathe eight unfucking hours a day because the syndicate tells you the people
    need what the lathe produces? If you will, the people just becomes a new tyrant."

    Eh, it ain't over yet. There's still time to see it's a Howard Stern gag.

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  32. Anonymous infiltrated? by spaceinvaders78 · · Score: 1

    I'm not trying to defend this silly group of attention starved nerds, and personally I am getting sick and tired of reading headlines about their self-righteous and narcissistic crusades... but. I don't think these hacks on Trump are orchestrated by the legitimate members of the real Anonymous tribe. Because of the loose structure of this group and that basically anyone can declare themselves a member, you could have anyone behind this. My take is that these actions against Trump were done by some far left group who dislikes Trump, or a group of Islamic hackers pretending to be Anonymous. It wouldn't be hard to do.

  33. Re:Crud PUPPY by Chas · · Score: 1

    No, you don't sign your posts because you're posting AC.

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  34. Not a binary situation by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Not a binary situation - not Trump does not equal Hillary.

  35. Anonymous by pebear · · Score: 1

    They leaked information that has been on the internet for years. Wow. Maybe if they did an forensic analysis that proved that Trump is not a Billionaire but actually broke or in hock up to his eyeballs maybe that will do the trick. Of course so is the United states so oh well. I'm not a Trump Supporter but between him and Hillary. I like him better than Hillary and Hillary actually has a body count and has done more illegal things than Trump. And if you look at their styles on the campaign, Hillary likes to race bait, Hillary likes to blame the victims of their plight, (Bills Rape Victims) She likes to call people lairs. She does just about everything that Trump does campaigning except she does it in a more politically correct way. She even said in her campaign where was Senator Sanders when she was working on her health care? There was a picture of her giving a news conference and there was Bernie right behind her supporting her ill fated health care effort. She is in fact book ends with Trump. So why isn't Anonymous not going after Hillary? She has spent her entire adult life covering up for a serial rapist? Like I said I don't like Trump or Hillary but just saying.

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  36. Some Newsworthy Doxes by herbierobinson · · Score: 1

    The details of his IRS audits (they don't audit you more than once unless that find a lot the first time).

    How many illegal immigrants he has hired.

    The salary distribution for employees at his companies (i.e., the kind of jobs he knows how to create).

    The manufacturing country of origin for the various products he has sold over the years (OK, that's probably not secret, but might be hard to find).

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