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Too Fat For Facebook: Photo Banned For Depicting Body In 'Undesirable Manner' (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report on The Guardian: Facebook has apologized for banning a photo of a plus-sized model and telling the feminist group that posted the image that it depicts "body parts in an undesirable manner". Cherchez la Femme, an Australian group that hosts popular culture talkshows with "an unapologetically feminist angle", said Facebook rejected an advert featuring Tess Holliday, a plus-sized model wearing a bikini, telling the group it violated the company's "ad guidelines". After the group appealed against the rejection, Facebook's ad team initially defended the decision, writing that the photo failed to comply with the social networking site's "health and fitness policy". "Ads may not depict a state of health or body weight as being perfect or extremely undesirable," Facebook wrote. "Ads like these are not allowed since they make viewers feel bad about themselves. Instead, we recommend using an image of a relevant activity, such as running or riding a bike." In a statement on Monday, Facebook apologized for its original stance and said it had determined that the photo does comply with its guidelines.Facebook said that its team scans millions of ad images every week, and sometimes understandably misses out on a few.

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  1. How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...their busy schedule of banning conservatives for daring to say that they ban conservatives to determine what an appropriate bikini body is...

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    1. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by beh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It does confirm that it was the right decision to close and delete my facebook account 3 or 4 weeks after using facebook and still not seeing the point of it.

      Now seeing how busy facebook seems to become in policing what its users might want to see, good riddance Facebook... ...not nearly ruing as much having signed up here a "while" ago... ;-)

    2. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Shortguy881 · · Score: 2

      Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind. Why would anyone want to look at that.

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    3. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind. Why would anyone want to look at that.

      Please, do post a picture of your ugly self so we can laugh at the irony of your post.

    4. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they're smart enough to realize that nobody wants to see their grotesque form. Most people are.

    5. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you're revolting looking you should NOT post a public photo of yourself.

      That is the salient point that this "model" appears to have missed.

    6. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well I for one welcome our new bikini-clad land-whale overlords.

    7. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

    8. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, do post a picture of your ugly self so we can laugh at the irony of your post.

      That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

      An ugly person complaining about ugly people while claiming that they themselves are beautiful, that might be ironic.

      But an ugly person complaining about ugly people while making no claims about their own beauty, is not ironic.

    9. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by HumanWiki · · Score: 0

      Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind. Why would anyone want to look at that.

      Please, do post a picture of your ugly self so we can laugh at the irony of your post.

      Says the Anonymous Coward that can't even login as him/herself. Baby steps, AC. Baby steps.

    10. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Shortguy881 · · Score: 2

      First of all, that is not irony. Secondly, I actually have muscle tone. I work hard to stay in shape, but I find it is worth the effort. Thirdly, I still don't photograph myself and flaunt my body. I stay in shape for me and no one else.

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    11. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by HumanWiki · · Score: 2

      Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind. Why would anyone want to look at that.

      Well, to be fair... The concept of beauty is widely debated now and has changed greatly over the years.

    12. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      If you can toss her over your shoulder and carry her away she's not to big. Just saying...

      Although I'm not really into tattooed girls no matter how skinny they are.

    13. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I fail to see the need to be fair to that 350+ pound beshemoth. She left 'plus sized' behind a tenth of a ton ago. If it is harmful to show young girls images of models considered too thin to be healthy, it must be equally harmful to show images of "models" that are three cupcakes away from losing a foot, or exploding their overburdened hearts. The "healthy at every size" thing is dangerous nonsense.

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    14. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you The Rock, because thats the only way its happening :p

    15. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, most people find a "plus sized model" disgusting. Most people also don't enjoy seeing disgusting things while browsing facebook. Ergo, that ad should stay banned.

    16. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      Is it healthier to keep your weight steady, and keep yourself in a positive mood. Or to feel depressed about your weight, causing stress hormones to go to your body, which then trigger the need to eat.
      You really fail to see the point of fat acceptance. It isn't to encourage other people to get really fat, but to be comfortable with your own body and not try to meet society standards.

      Once someone labels themselves as Fat and Ugly then they lose hope and stops trying to live a healthy lifestyle.

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    17. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      ...their busy schedule of banning conservatives for daring to say that they ban conservatives to determine what an appropriate bikini body is...

      They just trying to compensate by moderating conservatively as well as liberally.

    18. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Fat Self Acceptance" is one thing and "Fat Acceptance" is quite another. I have no problem with the former. The latter, however, is nothing more than misery attempting to create company for itself by encouraging morbid obesity in others. That's harmful, disgusting and frankly intolerable.

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    19. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by HumanWiki · · Score: 1

      I fail to see the need to be fair to that 350+ pound beshemoth. She left 'plus sized' behind a tenth of a ton ago. If it is harmful to show young girls images of models considered too thin to be healthy, it must be equally harmful to show images of "models" that are three cupcakes away from losing a foot, or exploding their overburdened hearts. The "healthy at every size" thing is dangerous nonsense.

      So, what about "healthy" sized people that are smoking, vaping, dipping, are doing something risky and dangerous with their life that could also be teaching people it's ok to partake in these dangerous and potentially fatal activities? I personally think it's 100% insane to bungie jump, sky dive, base jump, etc just for the thrill and every one of those people are 1 mechanical failure from death. Does that mean I should be allowed to ban their pics?

    20. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      She's only 5ft 4in I could toss her over my shoulder.

    21. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do so, he's just raising awareness to the fact that they are, because it's still a pretty scummy thing to do.

    22. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all of us are cheeto-encrusted weaklings living in our Momma's basement. Some of us even lift...

    23. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Irony is the use of words expressing something other than their literal intention.

    24. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Dins · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I "deactivated" my account a couple years ago. My only regret is that I didn't follow various guides to delete it completely, or as completely as can happen. But logging back in to the account in order to delete it at this point is not something I want to do so I'm letting sleeping dogs lie.

      I hate Facebook more than is probably rational, though. Both for solid IT nerd reasons like the rest of us but also because it had a huge hand in ruining my marriage. Yes there were other issues there, but Facebook certainly didn't help.

    25. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's scummy how? Their beloved Faux News does nothing different.

    26. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by GungaDan · · Score: 2

      Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up. That's precisely what Tess Munster is all about. "I am morbidly obese and I love it - you can be morbidly obese and love it, too!" Until that first amputation. The beetus is coming for Tess. She should not be recruiting others into her world of impending doom.

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    27. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You really fail to see the point of fat acceptance.

      Fat acceptance is exactly as harmful as pro-ana/pro-mia or promoting smoking.

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    28. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or maybe "fat acceptance" leads to inaction because, what the heck, it's okay to step on a scale and for it to say "One at a time, please."

      Nobody should be complacent being way past morbidly obese. You can say you're a happy happy hippo all you want, but you'll be a dead dead hippo if you don't take action.

      Obesity is the #2 killer nowadays. Keep this up, it will be #1.

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    29. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Honestly, most people find a "plus sized model" disgusting. Most people also don't enjoy seeing disgusting things while browsing facebook. Ergo, that ad should stay banned.

      Uh, huh. You know what? You don't have a right to not be disgusted, any more than you have a right to not be offended.

    30. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by HumanWiki · · Score: 1

      Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up.

      Incorrect. People skydiving are needlessly endangering themselves with an activity that has 0 value to me. They are the same and my analogy was correct.

    31. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Among other things, yes that is one of its meanings.

    32. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by GungaDan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Morbid obesity is not an activity, and it has negative (not zero) value to you and everyone else in terms of tangible societal cost (mostly in health care).

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    33. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by OakDragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

      New Facebook motto : "No Fat Chicks"

    34. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's only 5ft 4in

      In diameter maybe.

    35. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conservatives (especially the modern, so-far-right-they-call-neo-cons-'leftist-commies'-right-wing-'conservatives') don't constitute "half the populace of the US" by a long shot.

    36. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that like the case where Uber was talking about how people with low battery charge was more likely to pay more for a ride, and the libertarians were out in force to tell everyone to stop complaining, it's a free market and uber can do whatever they want and that there's no reason to talk about it?

    37. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It hasn't changed. This is some bizarre myth people just keep repeating.

      You send a trim, fit Victoria's Secret model back to 17th century Morocco and she would blow their minds.

      The thing is that in olden days women didn't have access to the medicine, nutrition, and fitness knowledge (and the time/ability to stay fit) that they do now. I promise you most ancient geezers would have preferred fit and trim to "voluptuous" at just about the same preference rate that men do today.

      Pointing out a few fatties in old paintings as if that proves that "beauty standards change" is risible. Fit, young, symmetrical with clear skin and feminine facial features is and always has been the predominant taste.

    38. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Open your mind a little. Not everyone is you

    39. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by twotacocombo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Once someone labels themselves as Fat and Ugly then they lose hope and stops trying to live a healthy lifestyle.

      So I was fat once. 260 was my high water mark. One day I thought to myself "Holy shit, I'm fat as fuck and this sucks". Know what I did? Something. Through diet and exercise, I lost 70 pounds. Labeling myself fat gave me the motivation to not be fat. If I had thought "I'm fat and I'm OK with this", I'd still be fat, probably fatter.

      I also worked for several years doing shitty low paying jobs. One day I said "Holy shit, this job fucking sucks" and I went back to school to start a career. If I had said "This job sucks, but I'm fine with it" I'd probably be 400 pounds, or dead.

      Without realizing how low you are, you may never find a reason to crawl out of it. Labeling yourself as fat, or a failure, or whatever, is not a negative thing. It all depends on what you do with that realization. You can bitch out, or you can do something about it. Your call, but don't blame society for making you 'feel bad' and then give up.

    40. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If your marriage can be ruined by Facebook, it probably could be ruined by many other unrelated things.

    41. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is just the point. He's not subjecting us to his fat, basement-dwelling ass in a public forum.

      I'm not all that to look at either, which is one reason that I don't take pictures of myself in a Speedo and post them on the Internet. I'm not particularly ashamed of how I look, I just don't really feel like I have a body that is remarkable enough to post.

      I don't care if someone wants to post a fat model in a bikini. That's their right. I just don't understand what they think it is achieving. If it is to make fat women less depressed, that's okay, I suppose. However, actual obesity is a disease that should be corrected. It's dangerous to your health and can make you miserable even putting aside social rejection issues.

      I don't think shaming the person is the answer to that, but I don't think that trying to affirm that as being in no need of change is wrong too. I could stand to lose about 20-30 pounds myself, what is needed is a plan to get me down there and the discipline to do it. If I don't do that, I'm not a bad person, but I could objectively be a healthier and ultimately have a chance to be happier if I did because I'd have fewer back problems and be able to be more active.

    42. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up.

      Incorrect. People skydiving are needlessly endangering themselves with an activity that has 0 value to me. They are the same and my analogy was correct.

      Drop the fucking skydiving analogy already. You can regurgitate that pointless argument once skydiving deaths outnumber the people dying from obesity-related issues. And ironically enough, you have a higher risk of dying by simply flying in a plane than jumping out of the fucking thing.

      Oh, and your chances of dying from driving a car are insanely higher by comparison, so spare me the bullshit about people "needlessly endangering themselves". You're likely one of them for not demanding to work from home and live within walking distance to everything.

    43. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Prien715 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or maybe "fat acceptance" leads to inaction because, what the heck, it's okay to step on a scale and for it to say "One at a time, please."

      That sounds like a testable hypothesis...and science shows the opposite is true.

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    44. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      You need to keep yourself in a positive mood, but you can keep yourself in a positive mood while still understanding that you need to make progress on obesity.

      Being obese has real issues like joint pain, stress, heart disease and diabetes. Even if rejection of beauty was not an issue, that would be enough to make anyone miserable.

      I do think the shaming should stop, because these people are not bad people simply because they weigh more than is safe.

      However, it should also not be encouraged, and there should be some understanding that, while I don't think you're a bad person for having a high weight, attraction is frequently based on an instinctive response to a particular visual image (especially for men).

      It is true that standards of beauty change and that in earlier times, attractive women could weigh in at about 200 pounds, but 200 lbs in all the right places can be presented fairly well on a female frame. 350 lbs... not so much unless the woman is like seven feet tall.

    45. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, it is important to be realistic about where you are, while at the same time realizing that you can always be more than that. If anything, that should be the message here. If someone is fat, then call a spade a spade, but remain supportive of their struggle to become healthier and also uphold their confidence that they are a person who, no matter what their weight is, is a good person. It's just that they are a good person with a disease they should fight, not just accept.

      On the other hand, there's obese and there's perfect. No one is going to go from fat to Hollywood hot, and not even stars do that without a full staff and a lot of money. The goal should always what makes you healthier and more comfortable. Don't let "perfect" become the enemy of "good".

    46. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Skydiving is an activity that can be dangerous, but if handled safely is a lot of fun. And you will walk away from it as healthy as you've ever been. More to the point, you only do it for a few minutes and even the most dedicated skydivers aren't doing it all day every day. The danger level is there, but it isn't constant.

      Being obese has a risk level like repeatedly jumping out of a plane every single hour of every single day, with zero benefits to you. It doesn't even have being fun going for it. Yes, you can live with the extra weight for awhile, but eventually, it's going to shorten your life, and more importantly perhaps, it is going to reduce your standard of living.

    47. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      Speaking as someone who has lifted 350 lbs in a gym with safety equipment and a spotter, you are not going to toss anything weighing 350 lbs over your shoulder unless you're built. You'd probably have to be stronger than average to even move that with a fireman's carry. That's both heavy and the weight is not going to be well distributed.

    48. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by umghhh · · Score: 1

      why would that be so - I do not think being this fat is health or sexy but I a sure as hell there are people that do. There are also people that like to be disgusted and there are many things that I consider normal and they think is disgusting and thus exciting too. Humans - they are all weird.

    49. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Aighearach · · Score: 0

      Nothing can "ruin" a marriage except the participants.

      I don't think your state of denial is improving your understanding of what happened. Maybe using intellectually honest language would help you move on? Citing imaginary causes (that are physically impossible) is very unlikely to improve your understanding, or your mental health. It is just garbage data that you're chewing on like cud. If you do too much of that sort of damage, you'll just end up being a bitter old ruined annoyance.

    50. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I thought "irony" is where people laugh at themselves while admitting they didn't understand the scope of the words used, and thought there was a contradiction, but then realized there wasn't one?

      Any intentional attempt at irony would of course be included in the literal intent of the words, so I don't think your definition can encompass the most common uses. Unintentional uses seem to universally be not-ironic to people that understand the subject; they're just things people usually don't expect about the subject.

    51. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by killfixx · · Score: 1

      You truly believe that, don't you?

      That is called self-acceptance. Accepting my lot in life does not mean I should be claiming enlightenment due to my ailment/impairment/shitty fucking lifestyle choices, it came from deep introspection and a truckload of work. That should be the message.

      Fat acceptance says I should accept that fat people are beautiful, too. Fuck that.

      I had been fat all my life (still about 20lbs over my ideal BMI), like seriously fat. Morbidly obese was the term. I worked my ass off to lose half my body mass.

      Losing weight didn't grant me enlightenment, it just made me lighter. Enlightenment came from the years of mental struggle, overcoming my own demons that got me to that weight.

      Fuck that. Celebrating what makes a person shitty is not good.

      But what do I know, I don't own a media outlet.

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    52. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook was in the right on this one. Showing hideous, obese, unhealthy people like that should be banned from their service. If the fatties don't like it, they can use a different service or make their own.

      Nobody wants to see that shit and Facebook was doing their community a favour by removing the picture.

    53. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go suck some more Trump dick, you fucking nazi faggot.

    54. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "healthy at every size" is short for "healthy at your size, whatever it is" or even better "whatever it is within a wide range of sizes"

    55. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      The only other thing it means is "made of iron" or "resembling iron".

      Irony does not mean "unexpected". It's not even a stretch of the definition. It's applying the word to a completely different meaning. Irony's core meaning is derived from eiron, which means dissembler. Irony is 100% about intended meaning and definitions differing.

      Note that using "irony" incorrectly is not itself ironic unless you specifically intend to use the word against its definition. You can't be ironic accidentally.

      Next you'll try to trot out "common usage" or "language evolves". If we blindly follow common usage and accept errors as valid, our endgame will be filled with nothing but grunts and emoji. As language evolves, it also devolves.

      Before you rush to Google, "dramatic irony" is simply irony applied to a dramatic work, wherein a character is unaware of the irony present in the plot. The audience may or may not be aware of the true meaning, though dramatic irony is typically pretty heavy handed so even a first timer will pick up on it.

    56. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      It's not "my" definition, it's the definition. Irony is about intent. You can't be unintentionally ironic. Irony has deception at its core - it comes from eiron, which means dissembler.

    57. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      She is short and weighs less a lot less than you think and yeah I could although I'm sure her husband who looks like he wouldn't have much trouble either might not like it.

    58. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by avandesande · · Score: 2

      Yeah he mentioned that it wasn't the 'real' cause. However a facebook divorce is probably a lot more publicly humiliating.....

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    59. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      Google "cosmic irony".

    60. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Tanktalus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do not think being this fat is health or sexy but I a sure as hell there are people that do

      False equivalence. You're treating two things, one subjective (what's sexy) and one objective (what's healthy) as if they were equivalent. They aren't.

      This feminist group is doing likewise. Acceptance of unhealthy obesity is tantamount to abuse. It's statistical murder. Instead of encouraging people (let's face it here, they're focused on women, but the same applies to men as well) who are obese to, you know, do the work to get to an objectively healthy body weight and save their lives, they're encouraging these women to revel in their obesity and thereby shorten these women's lives. And that's pro-woman?

      If you're into BBW, all the power to ya. But don't pretend like you're doing those women any long-term favours. You're participating in their deaths just as surely as if you stuffed the twinkie in their mouth yourself.

      As to Facebook, they should really stay the fuck out of it. Allow groups who promote healthy body images to flourish. The proper response to negative speech like this group's is positive speech, not banning.

    61. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      As someone who also lost 70 lbs. The first part of it was convincing myself that I could change myself first. To get to that level I needed get over my self consciousness of my weight. Then I could put my time and effort into losing it. The initial problem was once I labeled myself as fat, I didn't care for a while and put on 20 more lbs.
      The thing is people don't want to be fat or have the health problems. But with people insulting you and making you feel less valuable as a human being getting to a state where you can take the risk of changing your lifestyle makes it more difficult.

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    62. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Fat acceptance isn't about not trying to control your weight or living a unhealthy lifestyle. But to accept yourself as you are then you can start to work on the problems. There is a reason why don't see fat people at they gym, you may really skinny guys trying to bulk up but less fat people trying to lean down. Why? Because society makes fun of fat people. The idea of a fat guy or woman walking on a treadmill sweating at 3mph while the fit guy next to them is jogging at 6mph without breaking a sweat, is often shown as comedy. This type of stuff that portraits these people as somehow sub human. Just convinces them to avoid going out and doing something more.

      I had lost 70lbs myself and much closer to my official BMI however I needed to convince myself I could do it. And risk people insulting me at the gym (Although that didn't happen) But I had to accept that I was a useful human first before I could take the next step on working at it.

      Having Fat People feel like they are beautiful means they are more willing to go out and be active in the world. These Fat Acceptance isn't a Fat Fetish it is celebrating the person's beauty not because of the fat but because of the beauty. The Fat Fetish will only focus on the fat, that isn't healthy

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    63. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Too bad you didn't actually read beyond the headline so you could make a quick, but inaccurate, retort.

      The results were based on a survey, rather than experimental data, so you can't make conclusions about whether the fat-shaming actually caused the weight gain.

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    64. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were in such good physical shape that you could lug a fatass like that around, you wouldn't be lugging a fatass like that around, you would be carrying a beautiful, healthy woman around.

    65. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook isn't the government. They can ban pictures of disgusting fat people if they want.

    66. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would argue that a disease like addiction or cancer can ruin a marriage, but if you don't buy that I can safely say random murder of one of the parties to a marriage can ruin a marriage.

    67. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      BTW - most of the posts on her facebook page agree that it's stupid to popularize being not just obese, or even morbidly obese, but super obese. She has a bmi of 46.6. We no longer let models be anorexic, why are we promoting this?

      The smart thing would be for her to get her stomach stapled. Of course, she can't do that because the only talent she has is being really, really fat. She's doomed.

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    68. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just that they are a good person

      I don't know how long you've been on this planet but take it from somebody who's been around the block a few times. There are very very few "good people".

    69. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      making you feel less valuable as a human being

      I hate to be the one to break it to you but you are less valuable as a human being if you are a fat piece of shit. You consume more resources and very few quality people will desire to procreate with you.

    70. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having Fat People feel like they are beautiful

      You have got to be kidding me. Fucking kill yourself.

    71. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a retard. That is correct.

    72. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberty is that state of being where you allow your neighbor to act in manners abhorrent to you, secure in the knowledge your neighbor will offer you the same courtesy
       

    73. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Give it 3 weeks and it'll change. After all, they said that salt was bad for years, and now too little salt and especially no salt is worse for you then having too much.

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    74. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      If cancer can destroy your marriage then it was weak to begin with. Most wedding vows include language like "in sickness and in health". That stuff isn't just in there to sound pretty. That's the traditional expectation.

      Of course many people can't really follow through. They bail quickly over far less difficult issues.

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    75. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Your notion of risk analysis is badly distorted. Due to the seriousness with which skydiving is treated. It's probably FAR LESS of a risk than constantly abusing your body. It's probably less risky than commuting for the same reason that flying is.

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    76. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Don't kid yourself. In previous centuries, Victoria Secret models would be viewed as under age or sick. You don't have to bother with paintings. There's plenty of photographic evidence. The idea of scrawny as a beauty standard is a very new thing. It has even gone out of fashion occasionally even in modern times.

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    77. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Presumably that includes the adrenaline junkies GP spoke of?

    78. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      No. A proper libertarian say that "knowledge is power" and that you should take what you've learned and game the rules. That's part of being self-reliant and not being a helpless victim.

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    79. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In an Alanis Morrissette kind of way.

    80. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      The reason you see slimmer people at gyms is because they're the kind of people that work out.

      The reason you see fatter people at fast food joints is because they're the sort of people that go to fast food joints.

      Shaming and bullshit is maybe 5% of the story. Tops.

    81. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone who was so unhappy about the person they were born as, so much so that they changed sexes, is here bitching at others for how bad it is to be fat. For anyone who doesn't get this, Barbara is biologically male. I don't discard his opinion because he's transsexual, but because he's a hypocrite. You didn't love yourself the way you were and that's fine, but don't come here shitting on fat people because they are perfectly happy being fat.

    82. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your analogy is off. Instead of banning skydiving pics, ban pics of junkies shooting up. That's precisely what Tess Munster is all about. "I am morbidly obese and I love it - you can be morbidly obese and love it, too!" Until that first amputation. The beetus is coming for Tess. She should not be recruiting others into her world of impending doom.

      I don't know about skydiving, but serious mountaineering (K2, Everest, Kilimanjaro, etc.) has far higher mortality and far worse adverse health effects than either crack or opiate abuse. Yet the morons that do this are praised as heroes on TV and in movies, where-as junkies and crackheads are rightly ridiculed and looked down upon.

      Go figure.

    83. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sorry but that woman was really fat and unhealthy. When you are big Iike that you also start causing problems for people around you. Imagine sitting next to her in an airplane, no thanks! It is not something to be proud of.

      I also thought she was really unattractive.

    84. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The main problem is that people openly mock fat people to their faces. If someone is fat, that is their problem, and we should respect them as individuals. It doesn't mean we have to date a fat person, just treat them respectfully like any other person.

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    85. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a pervert test. You passed.

    86. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fucking tool.

    87. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Or maybe two.

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    88. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you see that picture? I nearly went blind.

      Did you also get hairy palms?

    89. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this

    90. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      It does confirm that it was the right decision to close and delete my facebook account 3 or 4 weeks after using facebook and still not seeing the point of it.

      After 3-4 weeks I'm not surprised you don't see the utility in a service that requires you to build up a large network of diverse people in order to gain the benefits.

      In other news I installed Tinder this morning. I'm still single now so I don't see the point and deleted it.

    91. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So like smoking they can just stop eating.
      What a great fucking idea,

    92. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Dins · · Score: 1

      Nothing can "ruin" a marriage except the participants.

      Yep. Completely true. I'm a firm believer that both parties are at fault in relationship issues if you really look at root causes (barring extreme circumstances). Hence my statement, "...hand in ruining my marriage. Yes there were other issues there..." Nobody is interested in the sordid details, so rather than go into the entire story I abbreviated to the above. Let's just say nobody's in denial here...

      Getting back on topic, Facebook sucks and nobody should use it.

    93. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Having seen the picture I would have thought the BMI would be much higher as I have a BMI of about 38 but then I do a lot of power lifting and strength training. My work out weights for some lifts are bench press 455lbs, squat 715lbs, clean and jerk 355lbs, curl 205lbs so even though I have a very high BMI it isn't like I am by any definition fat, 32" waist 54" chest 22" neck and sink in pools. That said I don't have that body builder look as that requires a very different style of workout where you build muscle mass, tone, and definition, I go for raw strength as I find it beneficial. Also I make it a point to do a fair amount of cardio (I run or bike for 1.5 hours three times a week instead of lifting) since if one doesn't it can lead to heart problems.

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    94. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, i joined fb because my wife wanted an extra account for the games. Games which cultivated her OCD out of control and then sent her in to a depressive state when they shut the games down.

      I still use fb to stay in touch with friends now that i am alone.

    95. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I have told friends of mine who were fat that were afraid of going to the gym because of people like the ones you mention that they shouldn't care. There are only about 3 types of people who go to the gym. First you have the people who use it as a social event. These are the ones who spend more time talking while sitting or standing next to the equipment than using it. They may make snide comments about a fat person but they often are too absorbed in their discussion so don't worry about them. Then you have the people who are the look at me types. These are the people who bang the weights around, grunt loudly, strut around. These people are about as likely to comment about fat people being there as the ones who use it as a social club but often are too absorbed in themselves. The last group is the ones who are there for their own benefit. This group shows up starts their workout, does it and leaves and only badmouths someone if they are hogging a piece of equipment by having a social discussion or being annoying by banging equipment and making a shit ton of noise.

      Having helped a number of my friends who were fat lose the weight I have had to put some people in their place for making snide comments while at the gym. What I have told my friends is that you are there for you benefit, not someone else's so fuck them. You are there to get into shape and be health and everyone has to start somewhere. I help them learn how to use the equipment right, learn how to work out right, learn a proper warmup and cool down routine, and how to push themselves (this is probably the hardest). The other thing everyone has a hard time learning is to not expect fast results as building proper strength, endurance, losing fat, etc takes a long time to do it right and when done right you don't risk injury and have a better chance of the results sticking. Shows like the biggest loser make this worse as they basically show miraculous results so everyone expects that.

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    96. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All marriages are frail. Cancer can undermine even the best because of the anxiety, no matter the vows. I know. I lost my wife to cancer.

      I was the one diagnosed. She left.

      At the time, I read of a study that helped me understand the dynamic.

      The study verified a previous one that found two years after diagnosis the chance of the patient or caregiver becoming depressed returns to normal. However, it also discovered anxiety continues to rise long afterwards.

      This was exactly how things went in my situation. The ocd cultivating fb games added to the confound. It really sucked.

      She quit her career as a nurse and did all i could to keep working through the hellish treatment for stage 4b lymphoma only to have her tell me on our tenth wedding anniversary that she needed to, "drink and fuck other guys."

    97. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I could, then again as you said one would have to be built and have well above average strength. This is said as someone who works out a 455lbs on bench press, 715 on squats, and cleans and jerks 355lbs. Carrying that much around would be a different story as you would have one hell of a lean.

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    98. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting AC because I'm too lazy to log in...

      It is amazing how people's views of you change when you go through various changes. I spent a few years in a wheelchair due to a spinal injury, going from running 4-5 miles every morning to not being able to walk. As one would expect, I put on a significant amount of weight. What surprised me is how my wife's family treated me. All the ex-military types treated me as if I had leprosy. The "black sheep" of the family was better, and my sister-in-law (an extremely fit MD) was quite supportive and helpful. My wife was mostly with the ex-military types. Similarly, at work, a large percentage of people started treating me very differently. My own family were cool, but that was to be expected.

      I recovered after years of rehab and treatment and now I can walk again, though with a slight limp. I lost the weight for a while but then re-injured myself enough that running doesn't work for me any more, so I'm back to being overweight again and at 50 it seems that it is harder to lose the weight even though I am exercising regularly.

      Being treated as somehow "less human" because you're overweight sucks big time. I did learn, however, who the decent people were and who the shallow people were, so it was not a total loss.

    99. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of irony's definitions is : "a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result."

      So using it in place of unexpected is not, well unexpected.

      And yes, language evolves and we should follow the new conventions. And no, this will not lead to grunts and emojis. Language has been evolving like this for thousands of years, and we still seem to be fine.

    100. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can stop gorging themselves. Maybe have a bowl of cereal or an apple for breakfast instead of half a pig and a gallon of diet Coke, you know.

    101. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither. I think it's far more important that people who are very underweight or very overweight to get proper treatment. That most often includes psychological treatment because the weight mismanagement is often a symptom of an underlying cause that has not been addressed. People turn to food, or restrict intake, as compensation mechanisms much like others turn to drugs or alcohol. The triggers could be stress, loneliness, anxiety, past abuse, a lack of education of how to cook and eat appropriate portions, or any number of things.

    102. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      You send a trim, fit Victoria's Secret model back to 17th century Morocco and she would blow their minds.

      Or, for that matter, today's Morocco.

    103. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The only skydiver I ever knew well broke his back. Fortunately, he appears to have completely recovered from that, but I was watching his toes move carefully when I first got to the hospital to visit him. He's not a careless person, but he made a mistake he couldn't recover from.

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    104. Re: How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      blah blah blah ... sex changes reduce the number of deaths among transsexuals, so it's something that other transsexuals should emulate, for their own health. Being so obese that you are too fat to be considered "only" morbidly obese is not someone who anyone should aspire to be. Super obese is something we instinctively react negatively to, the same as anorexic, because part of us instinctively recognizes these as being VERY unhealthy states.

      So, instead of making false comparisons, show what the benefits are of being classified as super obese, or STFU, mkay?

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    105. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, she's not doing the exercises you're doing, and her waist is probably bigger than your chest by now - it was claimed to be 49" back in 2014. Plus, fat weighs less than muscle. If it were muscle instead of fat, her weight would be MUCH higher.

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    106. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obesity is the #2 killer nowadays. Keep this up, it will be #1.

      No, it will not.
      It did hit #1 several years ago and fatties shrieked and yelled (I'd say "and rose up" but.. you know.. fat joke).
      So they broke obesity up into many ailments. Go read the top 10 now and see how many are obesity related.

      Here let me help with 2015:
      â Heart disease: 614,348
      â Cancer: 591,699
      â Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
      â Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
      â Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
      â Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
      â Diabetes: 76,488
      â Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
      â Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
      â Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773
      http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastat...

      See obesity on the list?

    107. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by countach · · Score: 1

      Aversion therapy to stop you eating.

    108. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by countach · · Score: 1

      The best thing for this woman would be to accept society's standards, and lose some pounds before the universe does it for her with a body bag.

    109. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by beh · · Score: 1

      OK, let's clarify - I've been on other social networks at the time (e.g. linkedin) - and in those I did see the utility.

      In Facebook, even in friends I have who had been on it for quite a while - I don't see it, apart from being a platform for advertising - and I don't see why I should feed facebook in exchange for ads I don't want in the first place.

      Also, at the time I deactivated the account, I had somewhere around (IIRC) 80-90 facebook connections - and I did put on my wall that I didn't see the point of the platform asking my connections to show me what the point of it would be within a week or I'd delete the account - a week (and 0 responses) later, I deleted the account.

      The connections to the people I was connected with before, I still have - and apart from that, I'm just happy not to have fed more personal information about myself to them.

      But, more generally, don't you start things that you need to invest time into with a purpose in mind? (you start learning to drive long before you're allowed to drive on public roads with a view to driving later. You get vaccinated against tropic diseases before a holiday in the tropics specifically in order to prevent catching a tropic disease. But - what other thing is there where you just take it up, and continue paying for it for weeks/months/longer, if you don't see a specific purpose for it. The only specific purpose I see in facebook is selling me ads - sorry, no thanks. Not for me.

    110. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      That is why when I saw the picture I would have thought he BMI would have been much higher. I guess a lot of that comes from the BMI point of reference of myself so people who are very fat I just kind of assume have some huge BMI because if I were shaped like that I would have a huge BMI.

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    111. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      psst - what's sexy and what's healthy are pretty much the same, and there's an obvious evolutionary argument as to why that should be the case

    112. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      In Facebook, even in friends I have who had been on it for quite a while - I don't see it, apart from being a platform for advertising - and I don't see why I should feed facebook in exchange for ads I don't want in the first place.

      The only specific purpose I see in facebook is selling me ads - sorry, no thanks. Not for me.

      That says it all. You approached the idea of the network with a mindset that was cemented from your first use combined with a group of people who weren't using it to it's potential and thus further destroying your idea of what the platform is good for. It's like wanting to go to a concert, so you friends take you to a heavy metal concert, but you don't like the idea of heavy metal. So you go to another friend who takes you to another heavy metal concert, and by the time you're done with the idea of concerts because of your closed in experience.

      I only see the occasional advert. I've filtered out idiots who do nothing but re-post crap "She put it in the microwave, what happens next no one will guess." I've unfriended idiots who do nothing but trashtalk politics, and those who only seem to exist to play Facebook games and invite you to join.

      So what's the point as I see it?
      - Updates from interesting people about their lives.
      - Photos from friends and family who are spread across the globe.
      - An organised event calendar which not only shows things people invite me to, but public events near me people are attending.
      - Easy messaging app.
      - Free VoIP calls without having to install the clusterfuck that is Skype, or deal with the problem of wWhatsapp with a mother who travels a lot and uses different SIM cards (Whatsapp does not like it when your phone number changes).

      People who don't understand the features of a product or don't have a use case for it are very quick to dismiss something as useless and then sit and ponder what 1.6billion people in the world find so fascinating about it (note I don't believe that number regardless of what Facebook says).

    113. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Fatties can blubber in their blubber all they want, but someone who is classified as "super obese" is probably going to die earlier rather than later - IF they're lucky. Otherwise, they'll be rolling around in their electric carts dragging their oxygen supplies behind them, etc., for a while before they finally die.

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    114. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      She says she's in shape - because "round is a shape" :-)

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    115. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by beh · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying Facebook is useless - it just isn't the tool for me.

      I get updates from friends, but I prefer to have them face to face, say, over dinner - which seems to become a bit of a lost art for many. Just look around, even sometimes you see groups of people sitting together in pubs, and there faces still glued to their smartphones only. That's what I would call wasted opportunities.

      And I finding out about interesting people? Was that really something new? Either way, I seem to find out about them with or without facebook.

      Free VoIP features - nice - I've got that with my phone (flat rate)... Yes, for that I pay, but I'm free of advertising - which I value more. (Even here on slashdot, for a while there was an option to just pay for ad-free pages - sounded great to me, and I happily paid some money to slashdot to have ads suppressed -- yes, an ad-blocker would achieve the same, but I do see that even slashdot might occasionally need to make some money)...

      Messaging? Ever heard of email? Sounds fairly easy - no ads on my mailhost either.

      Stupid casual online games? Sorry -

      Seriously - congrats to you, if facebook is the tool for you. It isn't for me.
      And I trust that you will not engage in too many new products / services for extended periods if you don't see them fulfilling any needs for you - you just wouldn't have the time for facebook any more.

      I've tried lots of services on the Internet - but I also stop using services and deleting my accounts, if I don't see the point of them for _me_.

    116. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by rhazz · · Score: 1

      So, what about "healthy" sized people that are smoking, vaping, dipping, are doing something risky and dangerous with their life that could also be teaching people it's ok to partake in these dangerous and potentially fatal activities?

      In many countries it is illegal for a cigarette ad to depict a person smoking, because of that exactly. Does it work? Hard to attribute it to a single thing, but there has certainly been a significant reduction in the number of smokers over the last generation.

    117. Re:How nice of Facebook to take time out of... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah I agree that all of these things can somewhat be done but:

      And I finding out about interesting people? Was that really something new?

      It's hard enough sending postcards to relatives at Christmas, a social news feed is trivial and can allow you to keep up with people easily. This doesn't need to be Facebook, but for the people I know it (for better or worse) IS Facebook.

      Free VoIP features - nice - I've got that with my phone (flat rate)

      I don't. And that's kind of the problem. Phone call rates differ around the world, as do the services that are provided. My work has provided me a nice phone and a relaxed agreement to do what I want with it. My mother, less so. When she's travelling in Europe she has the option of jumping into an internet cafe and being provided with a free VoIP service bundled within Facebook. There are other services available ... but I'll get to that.

      Messaging? Ever heard of email?

      I have. It's a nightmare for short messaging, and email in many social circles is dead, and in many cases was never a non-starter. Facebook messaging is more like and is displacing the common SMS, with a neat interface and the easy ability to transfer data too. Two people don't stand at taxi stands emailing their friends asking where they are. They never have even back when email was the only internet based option. Following large conversations is also quite a bit easier through social services, especially ones that track to see if you've seen something or not. I send you an email wondering why you're not at the club yet and I get nothing. is the email in your spam filter? Did it get blackhole routed? Did you drop your phone in the sink? Are you ignoring it? Who knows.

      Stupid casual online games? Sorry -

      Don't be sorry, grab a baseball and come join me. This is Facebook's equivalent of people letting their dog shit on the sidewalk. The world would be better without it.

      And I trust that you will not engage in too many new products / services for extended periods if you don't see them fulfilling any needs for you - you just wouldn't have the time for facebook any more.

      I've tried lots of services on the Internet - but I also stop using services and deleting my accounts, if I don't see the point of them for _me_.

      And that's kind of the crux of why a lot of people use Facebook. It does a LOT. It's the master of none, but for most people near enough is good enough which is why I'm back to the VoIP comment. I don't look or seek VoIP as a package on my phone, because ... Facebook does it, and I have it for other reasons. If the cost of this is targeted advertising then all I can say is "cameras". Now hopefully I'll at least get some relevant adverts.

  2. truth hurts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm really torn up about this one. A detestable group of twats invades the privacy of billions and we should clearly hate them, but then Facebook does something decent like this.
     
    Luckily it turned out to be a mistake so we can safely hate FB again.

  3. Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The more cush'n, the better the push'n.

    1. Re:Cushion by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      There's a limit. If you need flour to find the wet spot, it's... OMG, don't try to imagine this!

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    2. Re:Cushion by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      When you can't find the naughty bits, there is way too much cushion.

    3. Re:Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't find the naughty bits you probably should leave this conversation and go back to your monastery.

    4. Re:Cushion by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      The limit is when the wet spot is basically any part of the body.

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    5. Re:Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what do you do? Just fuck the nasty, oily, unwashed folds of fat?

      Fat people are disgusting.

    6. Re:Cushion by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Only if they move.

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    7. Re:Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The more cush'n, the better the push'n.

      Peter Griffin - Boy, fat sex is the best sex we've ever had! Last night there were so many boobs I didn't know who's boobs I was grabbin'!

    8. Re:Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eenie-meeny-miny-mo which is a fold and which is a hole.

      Flip through the folds, like paper files, until you find one that smells like shit, go back one.

      Slap her thigh and surf the wave in.

      Tie a rope between your waist and the bed.

      Best thing about fat chicks? The cheese, spread it on a sandwich. Um, um that's good. Key is letting it get good and ripe and runny like a brie.

    9. Re:Cushion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beavis: That chick has three boobs!

      Butthead: That's her belly...

    10. Re:Cushion by countach · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't have a problem finding the tits.

  4. I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I doubt it was a simple mistake. More likely someone from the crowd of "OMG HOW DARE YOU SHOW YOURSELF LIKE THAT WHEN YOU ARE THAT WEIGHT" was the one who made the decision to block it. For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.
    Not everyone has the ability to simply "work out and eat less" to lose weight. Sometimes there's medical or genetic reasons why it's difficult to go down in weight.
    People should be able to feel good about themselves, not live in mental torture and anguish from the crazy people who spew hatred about some specific physical aspect of their body.
    And if it's an actual unhealthy lifestyle decision as it sometimes is, then they are the ones who will live with the consequences of it, just like any other lifestyle decision that can negatively affect health. It's not YOUR job to point it out, believe me it's been pointed out a million times to each and everyone of them.

    Want to see what I'm talking about? Check out her public facebook account:
    https://www.facebook.com/TessHollidayOfficial/
    Or twitter:
    https://twitter.com/tess_holliday?lang=en
    Tons of comments spewing the nastiest vile things.

    1. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We found the fatty boys. Let's all point and laugh.

    2. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.

      No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.

      --
      Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    3. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      There was also policy not to show too much skimpy attire in advertisements, meant to block your typical Budweiser beach bikini ads (drink our beer and these girls might talk to you!). Facebook should have just stuck with that reasoning from the start, or maybe say "our robot filters were confused by the skin to bathing suit ratio" here.

    4. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by sanosuke001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They didn't make a mistake; Tess Holliday is obese and tells everyone that its okay. It's not okay, its unhealthy (I know, I'm the same way and know I need to get in shape; I'm not trying to by a hypocrite) it is hard to get back in shape and I don't blame her for being fat but I do blame her and her kind for perpetuating the "healthy at any weight" bullshit on the internet. She's not fat, she's obese; she's unhealthy and allowing her to tell people that it's okay is not okay. I know it's not okay for me to be obese, either, but I'm not telling people that it is.

      Facebook, for once, did the right thing the first time; she shouldn't be allowed in an ad just like anorexic models shouldn't be either. Reversing their decision was the mistake.

      --
      -SaNo
    5. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. It's very easy to lose weight. Just go on a year-long trip to a third-world country, and leave your wallet at home.
      It will be a lot cheaper, and a lot more effective, than a gym membership.

    6. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      Everyone has the ability to eat less. It literally requires no effort. People who are fat, just like everyone in this world, do not have the right to have people like them. That's not a thing. It's not "life, liberty and happiness." You have to achieve that last one on your own.

      --
      Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
    7. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.

      Turns out, it's good for fatties to be bullied.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bullied-boy-loses-85-lbs-inspires-others-to-lose/
      http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6937346/I-was-bullied-as-a-teen-for-being-fatnow-Im-a-top-model-Woman-with-300k-Instagram-fans-shares-her-incredible-transformation.html
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/12/i-lost-weight-liz-taylor_n_3466136.html
      http://metro.co.uk/2016/02/17/blogger-bullied-as-a-teen-lost-almost-half-her-body-weight-and-now-inspires-thousands-on-instagram-5699202/
      http://www.today.com/health/bullied-high-school-man-loses-166-pounds-year-t47261

    8. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They didn't make a mistake; Tess Holliday is obese and tells everyone that its okay. It's not okay, its unhealthy (I know, I'm the same way and know I need to get in shape; I'm not trying to by a hypocrite) it is hard to get back in shape and I don't blame her for being fat but I do blame her and her kind for perpetuating the "healthy at any weight" bullshit on the internet. She's not fat, she's obese; she's unhealthy and allowing her to tell people that it's okay is not okay. I know it's not okay for me to be obese, either, but I'm not telling people that it is.

      My kingdom for mod points. I'm the same btw. BMI > 38, BP of 170/110 and cholesterol levels through the roof. It's unhealthy, period.

      I'm an ugly, fat, middle-aged man, and I know it. And for that reason I don't shower in the gym. Not because I feel ashamed, but because I don't want to make anyone suffer by looking at my plump ugly fat ass.

    9. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Internet punches for everyone =@ =@ #O_o

    10. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or, spend a year WWOOFING. (www.wwoof.net). You work on a farm, in exchange for food from the farm, and a place to stay. A lot cheaper than a gym membership, and a lot more effective. And a lot more fun.

      The excuses that "I can't lose weight because of my genes" or "I can't lose weight because I can't afford a gym membership", are complete bullshit. If you go work on a farm for a whole year, and only eat food from that farm, i.e. no processed junk food, you WILL lose weight, and become strong and muscular, guaranteed.

    11. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.

      Self-righteous fitness nuts who think they can lecture people on how to eat and diet.

    12. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by SumDog · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Plus I find it really funny her photo is totally airbrushed.

    13. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't lecture - I just openly judge. Meh - if you're a sloth, a drug addict, useless, stupid - I'll probably fucking tell you. You can do with that information what you want.

    14. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Shortguy881 · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.

      Self-righteous fitness nuts who think they can lecture people on how to eat and diet.

      Self-loathing fat person who lacks self control...

      --
      Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
    15. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And biologists, medical researchers, and practitioners. I mean, it's not like excess adipose disrupts the endocrine system or anything...

    16. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a true fatty. I don't exercise, but I limit the amount I eat to less than elephantine portions every meal.

      I haven't known a single fatty fat that didn't eat a shit ton of fatty/sugary foods.

      (if you're less than 20 lb over weight, you're not a fatty fat. So don't take fucking offense for those who are less controlled than you are).

    17. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.

      No, it's not "some reason", it's for very specific and legitimate reasons. Like it's unhealthy and just plain disgusting.

      Not everyone has the ability to simply "work out and eat less" to lose weight.

      BULLSHIT

      Sometimes there's medical or genetic reasons why it's difficult to go down in weight.

      BULLSHIT

      People should be able to feel good about themselves

      Want to feel really, really good about yourself? Stop being a fat, lazy, disgusting, slob, and, stop making excuses for why you are a fat, disgusting slob.

      not live in mental torture and anguish from the crazy people who spew hatred

      Facts are not crazy, nor are they "hatred".

      It's not YOUR job to point it out

      It's not HER job to post pictures of her disgusting fast ass. Don't want people to call you fat? Then don't post pictures of your fat ass on the Internet. Problem solved.

      believe me it's been pointed out a million times to each and everyone of them.

      Well, they don't seem to be getting the message.

    18. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

      She's not fat, she's obese; she's unhealthy and allowing her to tell people that it's okay is not okay.

      I'm 46-years-old, 5'-10", 350 pounds and on a low-carb diet (150 grams/1,500 calories per day). When I stopped accepting other people's opinions about my body and accepted the fact that I'm big, my life became a lot easier to deal with. I'm also at the age where I no longer give a shit about what other people think. I have enough muscle from working out in a gym for a decade that very few people are willing to risk their life to fat shame me in person.

    19. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone has the ability to eat less. It literally requires no effort.

      Maybe you should post less. That will require no effort at all, and think of the happiness you'll spread by doing it!

    20. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go die in a fucking fire nigger.

    21. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does require some effort (mental) to endure hunger when it could be easily remedied.

    22. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Self-loathing fat person who lacks self control.

      I'm a fat person who accepted being big and has control to limit my diet to 150 grams of carbs/1,500 calories per day. Will you change your prejudice or call me a liar?

    23. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40% of your calories from carbohydrates is NOT a low-carb diet. Same goes for 150 grams of carbs, period (Less than 100 grams and preferably 50 grams or less is ideal for a low carb diet after you take fiber content into account). Further, basic metabolic functions indicate your basal metabolic rate (how many calories you burn just lying down breathing without moving at all) should be somewhere in the vicinity of 2290 calories per day. If you exercise (as you claim to), you'll easily burn 3000 total calories per day that you exercise.

      In order to maintain your body weight at 1500 calories without losing any weight at all and not doing any exercise, your actual weight would have to be 169 pounds.

      This all assumes you're a woman. If you're a man, your weight would actually be lower (around 140 or so) to maintain weight at 1500 calories per day. In other words, you're either lying (to us or yourself about how much you actually eat) or you have an actual medical condition to maintain a weight of 350 pounds on an actual dietary intake of 1500 calories per day.

      So which is it?

    24. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by war4peace · · Score: 1

      You know, when you say "people who hate on people that are fat" you might be onto something there.
      Some psychologists say that there's some atavistic sense kicking in when we see people who are too thin or too fat. regarding "too fat", back when we were yet to invent writing, being fat was a sign of using up someone else's food resources (tribe's, community's, etc). Being fat meant there's too much food available to you while too little was available to all others.
      Likewise, "too thin" usually meant "sick" and people tend to isolate those who are unnaturally thin. As a 6.1 tall / 140 pounds heavy person, I encountered this behavior. Even doctors were trying to find what's "wrong" with me (turned out it's genetic, my father was thinner than me, my grandfather was like a walking stick).

      So yes, there are limits beyond which people are perceived as abnormal. I'm guessing the uncanny valley plays a role in this too.

      --
      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    25. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.

      Self-righteous fitness nuts who think they can lecture people on how to eat and diet.

      Like the WHO, CDC, Harvard, etc:

      https://www.google.com/search?q=obesity+epidemic

    26. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by FuzzMaster · · Score: 2
      Shot:

      ... I no longer give a shit about what other people think.

      Chaser:

      ... few people are willing to risk their life to fat shame me in person.

    27. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're now in charge of deciding what's okay or not?

    28. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      And biologists, medical researchers, and practitioners.

      I was born fat. Doctor told my mother that she would have twin girls (five pounds each), and got a ten-pound bowling ball of a boy. School officials ordered repeated rounds of blood tests in the 4th, 5th and 6th grades to figure out why I was so big. A principle tried to fat shame my parents by calling them in for a conference but was shocked to discover that they were skinnier than him.

    29. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Everyone has the ability to eat less. It literally requires no effort.

      And it could fuck up your life even worse.
      There are people who, if they eat less, will develop a whole series of diseases which, when turning chronic, would send them to the grave ASAP.
      On the other hand, those people while overweight, would not be sick and their state of being would not be unhealthy. Still, they shouldn't say "it's generally okay to be like me".

      --
      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    30. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering how many "punch in the mouth" comments you've made on this one article, I'm pretty sure that's you.

    31. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't strain yourself, fatty, or you'll end up as another statistic

    32. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are you completely sedentary? Because that's the only way a 1500 calorie diet could sustain your weight.
      Try moving your fat ass.

    33. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about no carbs and unlimited calories? Your current setup sounds like a recipe for an unhealthy plateau.

    34. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Vermonter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sorry, but unless you recently started your strict calorie limit of 1500 per day, or you are exceptionally short, or you have some bizarre medical condition, there is no way your are being honest. If you are overweight, it means you are eating more energy than you body needs, and so it stores the extra energy as fat. If, every day, you eat only what is required for your body to maintain a healthy weight, then your body will move towards that weight, whether you are underweight or overweight to begin with. I'm not trying to "body shame" you, or any of that crap. If you are fat and happy, then it's no skin off my back. But don't sit here and tell me you eat 1500 calories per day and you're still overweight. Dishonestly like that may convince someone who is unhappy being fat that "it's just the way their body is and they can't change it".

    35. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's just pissy because he thinks that "fat" is an easier problem to solve than "short".

      Maybe a penis extension will make him feel better about himself.

    36. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Spoken like a true fatty. I don't exercise, but I limit the amount I eat to less than elephantine portions every meal.

      You're making some YUGE assumptions there. My diet is 150 grams of carbs and 1,500 calories per day. I also walk 20 minutes per day and work out at the gym every weekend. Despite being 350 pounds, I'm doing a lot more than you are.

      I haven't known a single fatty fat that didn't eat a shit ton of fatty/sugary foods.

      I had skinny people accused me of trying to shame them because I eat less than they do at a restaurant. I only eat half a plate for that meal and then take the other half for a different meal.

    37. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People should be able to feel good about themselves

      How you feel about yourself is up to you.

      As for Tess, I don't care that she's a fatty. The problem I have is when she goes around trying to convince people that it's healthy... it's not.
      I also have a problem with her claiming she's "body positive" and all that crap when every last photo she publishes has been airbrushed all to hell.
      I also have a problem with her telling people that she's beautiful. Fuck you bitch, I will decide what I find beautiful, and what I don't. Some guys want a lady with some extra weight, most guys don't. And guess what? Most Lesbians have the same opinion.

    38. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by chipschap · · Score: 1

      or you have an actual medical condition

      You can't rule this out. My weight was fine until I went on a certain medication (Actos) that is known to cause weight gain in many people. I steadily gained a pound a month and couldn't stop it even with 60 minutes of good exercise 6 days a week and a diet that should have worked. After two years on Actos I looked like a small whale. I would NOT put my picture on Facebook, that's for sure.

      But I quit the Actos and weight is starting to drop.

      Overweight is not pretty and it's not healthy. Now, it would be hypocritical of me to criticize others for being overweight or for their appearance, and I don't and won't. But if this plus model is telling people that it's okay to be morbidly obese, that does no one a service.

    39. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Telling the truth is not bullying. Oh, wait, we can not tell the truth, people might get upset and we must not hurt their feelings.
      Go cry me a river. If you're fat, you're fat. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Etc.

    40. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      I'll call you a liar. Unless you're under 5' tall, 1500 calories a day will cause you to lose weight. Source: Me. Also a fatass who finds when I cut my intake to 1500 calories and sticks with it - regardless of carbs - I lose weight. It's like magic, you give your body less fuel and it burns its reserves to make up the difference needed to operate. Or are you saying you're somehow still fat despite cutting intake to a confirmed 1500 calories that you have maintained for a considerable time? If so, please contact the James Randi foundation as I am sure they have some sort of 1 million dollar prize for demonstrating your immunity to the laws of physics in a controlled environment.

    41. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't even need to hear "I should change", I'm actually pretty comfortable with hearing "I'm fat and I don't care".
      I'll probably eyeroll at "I'm fat and NO ONE CAN SAY I AM NOT BEAUTIFUL".
      I will probably stop to protest at "I'm fat and I don't need to care, it's not harmful" if it's obesity that implies heart risk.

      Sloth is relatively fine, dangerous misinformation (either blatant or ignorant) should be oppressed. I guess the moral of the story is once again Just Be Chill. You could end wars with that nugget.

    42. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      But don't sit here and tell me you eat 1500 calories per day and you're still overweight.

      When I did weight training and ate a 3,000-calorie per day diet, my weight went up to 400 pounds. I loved the muscle mass but finding 4XL shirts was a bitch. Now I'm going in the opposite direction (borderline 2XL/XL), I'm going in the opposite direction.

    43. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Facebook, for once, did the right thing the first time; she shouldn't be allowed in an ad just like anorexic models shouldn't be either. Reversing their decision was the mistake.

      Hold on there, Smokey. Facebook really shouldn't be in the business of curating advertisements. Do they want that kind of liability? Once they say they are, they become liable.

      Fat people buy clothing and fat people should be buying clothing that's modeled by fat people. That's just obvious - you can't get an idea about what something, like a swimsuit, is going to look like on you if you weigh twice as much as the model.

      It may be unhealthy, but it's reality. I can't find the victim here.

      --
      My God, it's Full of Source!
      OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
    44. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >I don't exercise, but I limit the amount I eat to less than elephantine portions every meal.

      Try limiting it to the point that you feel sick and have the urge to throw up, but can't because you've eaten nothing. And then repeat that or 1 or 2 years. Then get back to us that you call fatty fat about your success.

      You literally don't know what it's like to be overweight, because you've never been there. Or, if you have, it was for a few months. Find someone who has been overweight for 10+ years and ask them just how horrible the experience of losing weight was. Preferably, find someone who has also gone through quitting smoking cold turkey so you can get a comparison between the two. Hint: Quitting smoking cold turkey is much easier and far more pleasant.

      That isn't to say that being overweight is healthy. It isn't. But your advice is not only unwanted, but pointlessly hurtful. It's on the same level as telling a heroin addict to just stop using, immediately, forever, with no other support whatsoever. And then insulting them for not doing it or not being successful.

      If you don't understand this, that's fine, you've never been overweight and I hope to hell you never are. And being an ignorant asshole is totally your prerogative. But now you've been told what *you* are, perhaps you'd like to change it? I bet quitting being an asshole cold turkey is still easier.

    45. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      I replied to you upthread but have to post again seeing this. Again, please report to the James Randi foundation for testing and to claim your prize for breaking the laws of thermodynamics. Unless you're awake for 15-20 minutes a day and spend the rest of your time comatose, your basic metabolic burn rate will exceed 2500 calories per day sitting in a recliner and not moving. Either you're lying or you can't measure calories.

    46. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you passed out while trying to throw that punch, to much exertion.

    47. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.

      I can't say I really ever cared in the past. But my wife has MS and in the last few years has not been able to get around on her own. So we finally got a handicapped tag so I can park closer to the stores for her. But half the time there are no handicapped spots because apparently being fat now qualifies. And then if the stores have motorized chairs, most of the time they are all taken by fat people. So yeah, it's pretty damn annoying. Especially since parking closer to the store and not walking isn't helping their situation.

      Not everyone has the ability to simply "work out and eat less" to lose weight. Sometimes there's medical or genetic reasons why it's difficult to go down in weight.

      True, but that is not the case in most situations. It's pretty damn obvious that it's not genetic when I see people riding around in the motorized chairs stuffing their face with cookies and chips and a soda the size of a beer keg.

      People should be able to feel good about themselves, not live in mental torture and anguish from the crazy people who spew hatred about some specific physical aspect of their body.

      People who are actually handicapped should be able to use services that are in place for them. But they can't because of people who CHOOSE to weight what they do.

    48. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

      Note the bolded part. It's important. Note that you can "pursue happiness" while overweight. or underweight. or normal weight. Whether you catch it is another question entirely....

      --

      "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    49. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The New York Times had an article on the study of the 2009 Biggest Loser contestants who regain their original weight. Their metabolism slowed down from dieting (expected) but never recovered seven years later(unexpected). If they ate a normal diet for their height and weight, they still ate an extra 400 to 800 calories because their metabolism slowed down. It's almost as if their body wanted to regain the weight back.

      http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html

    50. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big man. You punch anyone in the mouth that dares give you honest feedback about your life decisions? You must have some really great yes-men friends that never give you an constructive criticism.

      I'll give you some opinion right now - check that ridiculous aggression - it's only going to hold you back.

    51. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      In other words, you're either lying (to us or yourself about how much you actually eat) or you have an actual medical condition to maintain a weight of 350 pounds on an actual dietary intake of 1500 calories per day.

      Unless I'm lifting weights to gain more muscle mass (400 pounds), I've always been 350 pounds as an adult. I've been on the 1,500 calorie diet for two months now. I've been getting comments from coworkers about how muscular (probably less rounded) I've become.

    52. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your citation is misapplied, and it's precisely why I hated the way the nytimes article was written. It does not make clear that these folks attacked their weight loss in a critically poor fashion. (And yes, I get how sad it is that they did so for our entertainment value, but the point remains). Look, the manner in which they chose to lose weight was just as unhealthy as the way they put it on to begin with. It should not be a shock to anyone that bad choices + bad choices = bad results.

      The Biggest Loser metabolism finding DO NOT correspond to people who lose weight in a proper, controlled fashion. If you've dropped weight in the past, and done it without crash dieting and heaps of exercise, then the BL study likely has zero relevance. Metabolic damage is a real thing, yes, but applies to a minuscule portion of the population and isn't generally caused by diet, but by unhealthy amounts of exercise.

      I'll back up what was said above. I might be posting AC, but I have a decade of experience in helping people lose weight the right way (and no, not my profession, just volunteer as a friend). You can believe as you wish, but a) your experience isn't the norm, and b) very likely untrue, though probably by lack of understanding rather than malice. Unless you've been measuring your food (with real, live measuring cups and a scale) you're probably consuming more than 1500...and probably a lot more. People suck at estimating.

    53. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i was 10lb 10oz. I'm a normal build at 33. Get your shit together, son.

    54. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      It's an addiction to sugar just like smoking is addiction to nicotine and alcoholism is addiction to alcohol and just like them it can be beaten. Pretending it's ok to be addicted to something is the same denial you get from smokers and drinkers. The difference is that there's no healthy at every black lung or cirrhosis acceptance movement.

    55. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self-righteous fatty nuts who think they can lecture people on how to a woman should appear in the media because skinny girls make them and their daughters feel depressed.
      Apparently slobs should be given good propaganda so they don't feel guilty devouring pies and now apparently obesity is not caused by eating food but by one genetic thing or another...
      I must say that I saw a program from the BBC about a black guy going to Africa in search of hist roots, he intended to live like some poor people for a month...lasted less than a week, but I did learn something...the human body needs shockingly very little to sustain itself and function, those Africans that die of hunger die because they are at the lowest of the lower limit already, otherwise they will and do perform OK with what amounts to a bit of grass, water and occasionally a treat, I was shocked seeing of what the human body is able to do
      In the west we devour like Jabba the Hut squared except in the US that they do that for starts before the main breakfast

    56. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I'm an ugly, fat, middle-aged man, and I know it. And for that reason I don't shower in the gym. Not because I feel ashamed, but because I don't want to make anyone suffer by looking at my plump ugly fat ass.

      Do what you're comfortable with, but please don't imagine anyone will suffer for seeing you in a locker room.

    57. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Thanks for saving me the time of posting this.

      And I think it's because when you gain weight, you produce new fat cells. But when you lose weight, those fat cells empty out - but they are still there trying to store fat. Getting the proper metabolism back for your size depends a lot on how long you've been overweight.

    58. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by friesofdoom · · Score: 2

      I have the exact same problem. I am, and have always been pretty fat, and I know it is unhealthy and unattractive. I try ridiculously hard to keep it under control. I eat about 1500 calories and no candy. I'm 6 foot tall. I walk at least 40 minutes every day. I constantly feel like I am absolutely STARVING. I often feel so hungry that I want to throw up, this happens at least once a day.

      Then I get assholes, who have always been as skinny as a beanpole and can eat thanksgiving dinner every meal with out gaining any weight, who tell me I am lying about how much I eat, I cant possibly walk or move at all, being skinny is SOOOO easy, etc. etc.

      The science is clearly not out yet on all factors of weight gain, and a simple "calories in = weight gained" model is bullshit flawed quack science... I'm not going to complain about fat shaming being a bad thing, I think everyone should be encouraged to loose the extra few kg they are carrying around, but this bullshit idea that naturally skinny people have that being skinny is easy REALLY pisses me off.

    59. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You punch anyone in the mouth that dares give you honest feedback about your life decisions?

      Nope. Only pricks who get into my face and expect me to cower before them.

      You must have some really great yes-men friends that never give you an constructive criticism.

      I had a whole church full of them. That's Jesus for you.

      I'll give you some opinion right now - check that ridiculous aggression - it's only going to hold you back.

      That aggression gets the bullies to leave me alone and find a weaker person to pick on.

    60. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by barc0001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Based on your height, weight and age that you stated elsewhere, you resting mass intake is 2800 calories per day. Even if your body freaked out and dropped that by 800 calories you're still looking at 2000 calories per day for maintenance. Which is last time I checked, still greater than 1500.

      Then there's the question of adding exercise to the equation. Moving around takes energy, there's no way around that.

    61. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Facebook really shouldn't be in the business of curating advertisements.

      Yes, they should. No advertising network should openly accept scams, for example.

    62. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Then there's the question of adding exercise to the equation. Moving around takes energy, there's no way around that.

      I'm trying to master the rowing machine at the gym. It's... painful... in a good way.

    63. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what can I say ? Don't take any advice from anyone, you're the victim, and you're such a tough man. You got it all covered!

    64. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. Fat acceptance is a poisonous ideology. It's delusional and a symptom of our busted society.

      I don't mean we should run around hating fat people, but you should feel bad if you're unhealthily fat. I am very obese and I feel bad about it. It not only decreases my standard of living but it puts my kids at risk of losing their father. It's incredibly selfish. I don't have to hate myself to admit I have a weakness that I need to work on.

      If I realize this at least there's some hope I'll cross that threshold and do something about it. If I just give in to the latest nonsense and tell everyone "Oh, I'm fine. Being fat is actually fine. There's nothing wrong with me" I'll only get fatter and odds of fixing it are close to 0.

      It even affects otherwise rational people. How many people have you seen, even educated people, say that "dieting doesn't work" or "exercise doesn't work"? Both are objectively lies. They 100% work. Overeating is about willpower. Period. Even if you have the worst fucking hormones ever (which is very rare) you can still control your eating.

      But those facts make people feel like being fat is their own fault (it is)! Can't have such facts in circulation!

      It's my fault I'm fat because I eat too much and don't exercise enough. If other fat people would admit that we'd all be better off.

    65. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      If you've stopped allowing yourself to be affected by what other people think of you, good for you! That's an excellent step towards living a much happier life. Internalizing others' judgement and setting aside your own value judgements in favor of theirs leaves you vulnerable to the whim of others' emotions. You're in a much better place.

      If you're trying to make choices to improve your own health because that's what you want to do, also good for you! Your own desire for change is the only thing that can motivate that. Bending to others' judgements and trying to change yourself to fit their ideal never works, at least not for long. I wish you nothing but the best in your effort. I've made the effort myself over the course of the past few years shedding about half my body weight, and it's been life changing.

      That said, as others have said,150g carb/day isn't even close to low-carb. More like 20g/day would be low-carb. You'll still lose weight at 1500kcal/day, regardless of the composition of those calories; but if you're making other health decisions based on the premise that you're eating low-carb (and thus achieving both the benefits & drawbacks of doing so), you should be careful. It's unlikely your body is operating on a fat-based, low-carb metabolism at 150g/day. Again, no doubt you will drop weight at 1500kcal/day, but you're not getting the benefits of low-carb, if in fact that's what you're seeking.

      There's one thing you're NOT doing though, and this is another good for you: You're not telling people that being at your current weight is a healthy thing that they should accept as good. You're not saying that there are no health drawbacks to being overweight and therefore there's no health reason that other overweight people shouldn't attempt to lose weight. That's what Tess and the rest of the Health At Every Size followers are espousing. Specifically that Tess at BMI 46+ is just as healthy and will experience no negative health consequences as compared to someone at BMI 20.

      That assertion is the one thing I have against Tess & other HAES adherents. I would never tell anyone they have to feel bad because they're overweight. It's your body, and you can do what you want with it. It's entirely possible to both not hate yourself for being fat but also take steps to work towards becoming less fat. Loving yourself isn't the same thing as giving up on changing yourself.

      The HAES movement is reprehensible for its claim that there are no health or other benefits to not being overweight. They serve as a collective denial and self-apology movement where members can reassure each other that a host of problems they have in life don't actually have anything to do with their weight. (Can't fit in chairs, always tired / no energy to do basic life things, can't walk up a flight of stairs, medicines don't work properly, have to take a boat load of daily prescriptions just to stay healthy, can't just walk into any store and buy XXXXXL clothing, etc. etc....). They reinforce the idea that they're "perfectly happy" being overweight and that no aspects of their life could possibly be improved if they were less overweight. They also advance the claim in many cases that's it's actually "impossible" to lose weight. With things like "set point theory" and other pseudo-science that try to claim that your weight is controlled exclusively by your genetics and that your diet and exercise levels have nothing to do with it. They insist there's just no sense trying, and they re-badge "giving up without trying," as "just being happy the way you are."

      To be clear, I understand that your genetics, your upbringing, life situation, etc. can have a huge amount to do with your appetite and your activity level. I don't doubt that some are genetically predisposed to eat more, or at least to not have satiation signals that work as well. I don't doubt that it's part genetics, part addiction, and part mis-learned coping mechanisms from using eating as an emotional b

    66. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Don't take any advice from anyone, you're the victim, and you're such a tough man.

      I don't have a problem taking advice from people who are sincere about the advice they're giving. It's the pricks who get a power trip from talking down to someone that I have a problem with, especially when they think that my weight . Playing the victim game means letting the bullies get away with their abusive behavior. They're not going to change until someone confronts them.

    67. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The Biggest Loser metabolism finding DO NOT correspond to people who lose weight in a proper, controlled fashion.

      I lost 70 pounds one summer as a teenager when I got a bicycle that I road everywhere. My weight was 325 from riding my bike 20 miles per day for three years because I had a restaurant job down the street (yes, it was 10 miles away). When I got into weight training as an adult, my weight went up to 400 pounds. After I stopped weigh training and did treadmill only, my weight settled to 350 pounds for the last decade. I only recently cut my calories to 1,500 to see if that makes a different.

    68. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Doctor told my mother that she would have twin girls (five pounds each), and got a ten-pound bowling ball of a boy.

      So you are a transgendered baby cannibal? :high five: Me too!

    69. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Try 50 grams carbs day and eat what you want... seriously I am not being a jerk. It's not easy but it works.

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    70. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      If that's the case then I'd really suggest looking at how you're measuring that 1500 calories, because once I started doing it, the weight came off so I suspect that what you think you're eating is probably not actually 1500 calories. My big (ha!) problem is that I lack willpower and am lazy. Need to get back on it again.

    71. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever stopped to think that your aggression makes you the bully? I don't know about your life but mine has no aggression in it. From me or others

    72. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      I started to loose weight when I woke up every single morning for a few months with a significant back age (sometimes lasting all day) whilst having adjusted my bed for the heaviest weight possible. After 5kg lost, the back pain was gone, now at 15kg down, no longer fearing going to bed but sleeping like a baby and waking earlier. Obesity isn't healthy.

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    73. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about your life but mine has no aggression in it.

      I live an aggressive-free live, but I don't shy away from confrontation. It's like when I ask a stupid question at a group meeting. Some people will take me aside to tell me that I've asked a stupid question. I ask them to tell me how many people in the audience wanted to ask that same stupid question but were afraid of looking stupid by someone else. They can't give me a number. The people who thank me for asking a stupid question outnumbers the people who criticizes me for asking a stupid question by 3 to 1.

    74. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      But if this plus model is telling people that it's okay to be morbidly obese, that does no one a service.

      If you're in the business of selling plus-size clothes to women, what kind of models would you suggest to where those clothes in an advertising spread?

    75. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahahahahahaha, what a bunch of fucking bullshit that is! In my bulk cycle I went up to 4800 calories a day getting to my max of 200lbs at 5'11. I'm on a CUT now and I'm still eating 3400 calories a day. Do you get it? 3400 is my weight(fat)-loss intake. And I AM losing fat since I keep track of this closely. I'm at 9.7%BF and dropping (from 13.2 at the end of my bulk).
      There is no fucking way that you are even remotely telling the truth on anything here, you lying fat piece of shit. You fat fucks are like children who tell outrageous lies to adults and think we're buying the shit you're selling. You don't even know how fucking retarded you sound.

    76. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      It's not "life, liberty and happiness." You have to achieve that last one on your own.

      I was saying the same thing.

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    77. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      As soon as your change your prejudice on fitness nuts ;)

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    78. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      That said, as others have said,150g carb/day isn't even close to low-carb. More like 20g/day would be low-carb.

      Low-carb diets are 150 grams or less per day.

      http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/150-carbs-per-day-still-considered-low-carb-7754.html

      You're not telling people that being at your current weight is a healthy thing that they should accept as good.

      I wrote that I accepted the fact that I'm a big person, which means I'm not going to beat myself up emotionally it as I have no desire to relive my teenage years. Nowhere did I write that being fat was healthy. If that was the case, I wouldn't be on a diet and eat whatever I wanted.

      Specifically that Tess at BMI 46+ is just as healthy and will experience no negative health consequences as compared to someone at BMI 20.

      Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Cruise, Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson are morbidly obese based on his BMI score. If I shed my fat and tone my muscles, I'll still be morbidly obese. It's not a reliable indicator.

      http://www.docshop.com/2008/04/08/arnold-schwarzenegger-is-obese-problems-with-body-mass-index-bmi-calculations

    79. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      It can take awhile for a lower calorie diet to have an effect though. Your body will attempt to maintain an even weight. This will eventually change unless there is an external reason for that not happening. I've found that when I do lose weight, it is essential to track it over time, and it will take forever at times to show results. For the most part, on a serious diet, I can lose as little as one pound every two weeks, but in the end, as long as the overall trend is downward, the desired result is inevitable. The hard part is the plateaus and the occasional up ticks. You pretty much have to be a machine about it because while results can be drastic and immediate for some people, for others, it is glacial.

      That said it is certainly possible to have an endocrine system that promotes the storage of fat to a certain percentage. That can be harder to overcome and you may need medical advice about weight loss in that situation.

      The question is whether this can be a healthy weight for you to be at. This woman in the picture is 350 lbs, like you are, but I'd hazard to say that you probably have a much better frame for carrying that amount of weight than she does simply by dint of being male. Women can carry a lot of weight in certain parts, but if it is all over, it starts to become dangerous.

    80. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      How about a punch in the mouth? I found that most bullies are unwilling to pay the price for their opinions and flee from imminent harm.

      Watch out, we got a badass over here!

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    81. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      There is no fucking way that you are even remotely telling the truth on anything here, you lying fat piece of shit.

      Why would I lie?

      You fat fucks are like children who tell outrageous lies to adults and think we're buying the shit you're selling.

      I'm always called a liar. The funny thing is that no one has ever proven me to be a liar. Some people have trouble accepting a reality that varies from normal. Nothing in my life is normal.

      You don't even know how fucking retarded you sound.

      Because I was poster child for mongolism, I spent eight years in Special Ed. No one though it was odd that I graduated the eight grade with a college-level reading comprehension. I had skip high school to go to community college to get a real education. The difference between treated like an idiot in grade school and an adult in college was night and day.

    82. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I yo-yo between 220 and 260 consistently for the past 5 years. When I make an effort to eat less and exercise, the weight drops. The problem is that I am always hungry and go through stages where I just don't have the willpower to say no carbs and sugar. Add to that the winter where it is dark when I leave the house and dark when I come home and the amount of exercise goes way down. I have tried every diet out there and all of them work for a while, but once I hit 220, nothing except starvation works to get under that weight.

    83. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by rvw14 · · Score: 1

      I'm not addicted, I can stop anytime I want to.

    84. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      As soon as your change your prejudice on fitness nuts ;)

      As long they stay on their side of the gym and dance to the Jane Fonda fitness video. :)

    85. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      That said, as others have said,150g carb/day isn't even close to low-carb. More like 20g/day would be low-carb.

      Low-carb diets are 150 grams or less per day.

      http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/150-carbs-per-day-still-considered-low-carb-7754.html

      The source cited by your source is "the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans." IE the same people who have espoused for years that fat was the devil and we should be getting over half our daily calories from sugar & starch. Defining "low carb" as "less than the way too much we've been told to eat the entire time we've become the fattest people in history," is maybe not the best definition. I think a far more reasonable definition of low-carb is the point at which you have metobolic changes versus "normal carb" eating. Anything less than that is just changing your diet without it having a specific effect. From my experience, the benefits of being in ketois taper off above 20g/day and are pretty much gone by 40-50g tops.

      Specifically that Tess at BMI 46+ is just as healthy and will experience no negative health consequences as compared to someone at BMI 20.

      Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Cruise, Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson are morbidly obese based on his BMI score. If I shed my fat and tone my muscles, I'll still be morbidly obese. It's not a reliable indicator.

      http://www.docshop.com/2008/04/08/arnold-schwarzenegger-is-obese-problems-with-body-mass-index-bmi-calculations

      Arnold, Sly, and Tom are are huge (or tiny...) outliers because of their height and/or muscularity. BMI doesn't work well on the edges of the human population, but it's a very reasonable indicator within average ranges of height & muscularity. It's a poor model when applied to professional athletes or the very tall or very short, but it's pretty good for everyone else. Not sure what's up with Mel, but that applies to both physical & mental condition for him...

      If you're a few BMI points off your ideal range, it's certainly very possible you're fine. Arnold was supposedly BMI 33 when he was Mr. Universe, but that's still a far cry below Tess' 46. I'm not aware of any body builders or other athletes that are 40+ BMI. There may be some for extreme heavy weight lifters perhaps, but you're by definition at the outliers of normal human physique there.

    86. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hang on. Facebook certainly CAN curate what advertisements they allow BUT they can't be discriminatory against a 'protected class'. Now it's debatable if 'body type' is a 'protected class' (a lawsuit would likely confirm it is) but here's FB's mistake. The summary makes it clear that Facebook's policy applies to ANY body type that is 'bikini clad'. If they allow this for this "plus size" (read obese) than fine & dandy but than they MUST allow it for all other body types if they don't THAT is actionable as discrimination. So by reversing their policy in this instance they are likely setting themselves up for a lawsuit, if they'd stuck to their guns then they'd have been fine (as there would be no discrimination against anyone as 'bikini clad' is not a protected calls...not yet anyway).

    87. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >Pretending it's ok to be addicted to something is the same denial you get from smokers and drinkers.

      I do not pretend that it's okay to be overweight and I do believe it is unhealthy.

      However, telling someone overweight to just stop eating so much is literally worse than worthless advice. Not only does it rarely have any success, it generally leads to making the person fatter than their original weight because the diet fails.

      My advice to those who want to tell a fat person they're fat:

      a) Don't bother. You think we can't tell?
      b) Don't bother telling us to eat less if that's where your advice ends. You seriously believe fat people are that stupid? That somehow we got overweight without the knowledge that more calories in than burned == increased weight? My 6 year old (who is actually rather skinny, since you might wonder) knows this. Every overweight person knows this. Repeating it with no help to back it up is just being an asshole. It's like telling the smokers outside your building "You'll die smoking those" every time you go by.
      c) If you actually want to help, help in a worthwhile manner. That will take your time and effort, possibly a significant amount of it. If you can't offer those, simply ignore and move on.

      Anyways, yes, it can be beaten. There's proof out there of it. But snarky comments sure as fuck won't get anyone there.

    88. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fat people also tend to sweat shit up more, get piss on the floor more in bathrooms (fat men at the urinal), get shit on the toilet seats more because they aren't quite sure where their assholes are under that big mass of flesh. In general, fat people are gross.

    89. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      found the fatty.

    90. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then there's the question of adding exercise to the equation. Moving around takes energy, there's no way around that.

      I'm trying to master the rowing machine at the gym. It's... painful... in a good way.

      For people in that situation, use a recumbent (bucket seat) exercise bike. Less stress on your knees and but/back. Do it for an hour at the fastest pace you can manage for the hour. Bring a big bottle of water - you should drink it all to replace sweat/mouth breathing vapor you lose. Do it every day. Hit weights once a week afterwards enough to be a sore the day after and still a little sore the day after that. You should lose 2.5% of your body weight a month easily, safely and consistently from the bike and still improve muscle mass via the weekly weights.

      That's while working a regular job too. If you have movie star time/no family (or family that supports you and goes with you), you can do two a day sessions for 30-45 minutes on the bike and drop 2% a WEEK, but that's a pretty miserable existence for a while.

      To keep it off, you have to change your lifestyle. Don't eat in front of the TV/youtube when sad - clean the house or go for a walk. Move around. Get a fatman kick scooter like a GoPed. I've been on both sides and while it is EASIER to be fat, it's HAPPIER to be able to run up stairs with a bounce in your step.

      If you are 6', 150-250# can all be reasonable based on bone structure and genetic tendencies, but anyone beyond that range is just morbidly obese or able to bench more than their weight with ease. And not just in a leg press.

      But ultimately, I say you, creimer are a liar. You've trolled that 1500 calorie claim for a _long_ time in a lot of stories and it is just not credible. I say you aren't counting calories realistically, consistently or accurately. You claim weight training, but don't list out routines and reps, your height or what you bench. You come across like this guy:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pAYNm5nx1M

      No, humans don't 100% demonstrably all process food the way a bomb calorimeter does. But that is the UPPER LIMIT of digestive energy extraction, not a floor. It seems like every weight story posted to slashdot, you come in and whine about skinny people. You are fat because you eat more than you move. That is basic thermodynamics and the laws of physics. Go ahead and claim feeling starvation hunger all you want. Maybe you and every other "1500 calorie" fat person has/lacks a protein/inhibitor that makes you feel like you are starving all the time, go ahead and claim that as an excuse to eat more than 1500 calories. Really, we'll ignore that drivel. But when you claim, for months or years, not just days or weeks, to eat only 1500 calories and maintain 350# while having an active life? That:s just BS.

      You are now free to dismiss my empirically justifiable claims with your internet tough guy swagger, as per your usual MO.

    91. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's is why exercise is also part of the equation. You have to force your body to burn fat for energy while maintaining the correct diet as well especially if you have been overweight for a long time. The problem is, doing so is actually quite hard. The amount of work that needs to go into it can be said to basically be a full time job where you have to constantly be working towards that goal. Eating too much in one sitting will just create more fat so lot of small meals are needed throughout the day while at the same time, exercising to improve your metabolism needs to be a long term action. The type of job you have can make this endeavor easier or harder. For most people, they don't have to go to the extreme, but if you stay on one end for too long, you have to expect the amount of effort needed will only increase with time. That said, there is interesting research about your gut bacteria greatly affecting your weight. After eating crap for so long, it is difficult to restore your gut bacteria to something more desirable.

    92. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by sanosuke001 · · Score: 1

      I didn't say that they should ban normal ads. Tess Holliday and her HAES (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_at_Every_Size) followers are telling people being obese is okay and that science is wrong; you can't lose weight and 400+ lbs might be your "healthy" weight. What they're saying is dangerous and borderline criminal. They shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

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    93. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      > For some reason there's a huge number of people who absolutely hate on people who are fat.

      No, there's a huge number of people who hate on people who are fat that say it's perfectly healthy to be fat.

      I've also seen people hating on fit people as if there is something wrong with it. Criticizing them because they are in shape. It's hard work but enjoyable work to be in shape. If people think it's hard work or too expensive to be in shape wait until they see how much the medical bills will cost them later in life. Humans adapted to walking about 35km a day to get food and we are still the fastest animal to *accelerate* to our top speed so there is little doubt that we all have to do some exercise.

      Personally I've found that having martial arts in my life, like Muay Thai, Jui Jitsu and others has made being fit more fun because it was a consequence of trying to achieve a new grading, stripe or belt - I wasn't trying to get fit, I just did. The added benefit was not only did the fitness make me a better coder by clearing my mind and making for better sleep, learning things like meditation helped me tame some of the anti-social aspects of my character.

      Nothing wrong with big people that are carrying fat, some of those big guys have got a lot of power. Despite the fantasy, many Spartan warriors carried extra fat because it added some protection against weapons penetrating vital organs. Also I've experienced getting a flu while I had very low body fat and it is a very unpleasant experience, very painful. The issue is when big people don't exercise *and* they're fat, it's a recipe for diabetes.

      However in almost every instance of a fat guy coming to our gym (BJJ) and fighting is that if they stick with it they turn into big powerful guys and loose most, but never all of their fat.

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    94. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't take any advice from anyone, you're the victim, and you're such a tough man.

      I don't have a problem taking advice from people who are sincere about the advice they're giving. It's the pricks who get a power trip from talking down to someone that I have a problem with, especially when they think that my weight . Playing the victim game means letting the bullies get away with their abusive behavior. They're not going to change until someone confronts them.

      It's the internet. You are being the angry "tough guy". If you don;t want to see fat people on the internet, don't post your picture on it.
      Picture: C.D.Reimer http://indiebooklounge.com/images/authors/710cc559-8a42-4b5e-8cd7-58f164e9ac18.jpg?

      You when about weight and say you don't eat. Unless you are a LIAR in your slashdot posts, you are claiming to have been dieting since at LEAST 2014, based on a spot check of your post history.

      Re:Why can't people just do what's right? (Score:2)
      by creimer ( 824291 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @04:48PM (#51661323) Homepage

      You can't outrun your fork.

      The only time I ever outrun my fork when weight training pushed up from 325 pounds to 400 pounds on 2,000+ calories per day. I stopped weight training and settled down to 350 pounds because I had trouble finding 4XL shirts.

      https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8851275&cid=51661323

      Re:people are very different at the same age (Score:2)
      by creimer ( 824291 ) on Tuesday September 23, 2014 @02:47PM (#47976451) Homepage
      Weight lifting took me from 350 pounds to 375 pounds before I discovered that 3XL clothing is hard to come at the stores. I'm now slimming down in the other direction with a low-carb diet that puts me at a borderline XL/2XL for clothing. Except for my weight, my medical stats are in the normal range.

      https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5739767&cid=47976451

      Picture: C.D.Reimer http://indiebooklounge.com/images/authors/710cc559-8a42-4b5e-8cd7-58f164e9ac18.jpg?

      Let's set aside the fact that you don't know what "out run your fork" means... And that 375 and 400# seems the same to you.

      Now, one of these statements is true:
      1) You are a nexus where the laws of physics do not apply, or
      2) Liar, liar, XXXL pants on fire!

    95. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Why would I lie?

      I believe you. My brother is in the same situation and I am really fit. He used to exercise with me however I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the gut flora has a lot to do with the situation. Like him, you are probably really strong guy and exercise might be a little painful to get through. I eat full cream milk, cheese yoghurt, vegetables and fruit - I can't stand processes fast foods, but he eats them. You're probably one of those types of people that are hyper sensitive to fast foods - if you eat them at all dump them and let you instinct guide you to the fresh foods you like, learn some recipes you like and hack your gut flora by varying the yoghurt and cheeses.

      Oh, beer, it's hurts to miss it, but it's a big one if you drink it for big guys like you. I don't think it's the carbs, I think it's the yeast.

      Some people have trouble accepting a reality that varies from normal. Nothing in my life is normal.

      Yeah, that's not cool. I can see why it would piss you off, especially when you are working so hard. My mate I train(ed) with weighs 140Kg, what that's roughly 260 odd pounds? He gets that too. When he strips down, he is still a big guy but the difference is I'm 85Kg at fight weigh and almost 90Kg off training. He is around 100Kg so he looses almost half my body mass. I can still choke him out, but once he paniced one day as I did and both our body weights landed on my shoulder and dislocated it. I think he apologized about 50 times but there certainly was never any animosity, after all we were friends and we both got something different out of it. I learned I can control a big guy like and overcome the intimidation and as he learned to control his power, he became lethal.

      The difference between treated like an idiot in grade school and an adult in college was night and day.

      Yeah, just ignore that stuff, humans are varied creatures and nature finds a balance. My concern for guys like you is you are probably susceptible to diabetes. If you don't mind me saying though, I can sense your frustration and I can't say I blame you. If weights and pissy aerobics aren't working for you go find a Brazillian Jui Jitsu school and start to train. They are humble guys and if you are too, they will welcome you as fighting you will be outside their comfort zone as well, you will make good friends that respect you. It's not easy, but I think you will like it - think 'body chess'!

      I miss my big mate, I really wish he'd stuck with it for all the physio it cost me to train with him ;) - Good luck to you!

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    96. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do Americans say big... big is a 2meter lean guy with muscles, you are just fat, blob of fat and water.... fat is fat ...
      and no there is no way u eat 1500cal per day and still fat... unless you only had it one day a month

    97. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by dasunt · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but unless you recently started your strict calorie limit of 1500 per day, or you are exceptionally short, or you have some bizarre medical condition, there is no way your are being honest.

      Could be mismeasuring the amount of calories he's consuming. But it does appear that dieting can permanently alter a metabolism in a negative way.

    98. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by nachtelfjeiu · · Score: 1

      I totally agree. I'm a bit overweight too. My weight has gone up and down in my life. Nothing was as demotivating for me as when loved ones asked if i wasn't overdoing my obsession with it (at bmi 24!) or when a girlfriend said she likes a tummy (at bmi 27!). But hey if you say it's a feminist thing, they suddenly need to agree with whatever you say.

    99. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Calories in - calories spent = weight gained/lost" has been proven again and again in peer reviewed journals around the world. More or less every clinical study confirms it.

      You don't have to belive it. And you may be unique in your physiology so that you can disobey the laws of thermondynamics. But for the rest of us peer reviewed science is not quack science until someone shows that it's wrong in an actual study.

    100. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The problem wasn't the slow metabolism, that just means you have to eat less. The problem was, even after eating enough to give themselves energy, they still felt hungry.

      In other words, they needed the hacker's diet, which takes into consideration the fact that your hunger doesn't match your eating needs.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    101. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you're under 5' tall, 1500 calories a day will cause you to lose weight.

      Depends on what you eat. I'm 1,80m, 70 kg [1], and had a diet of 1500 kcal [2], of which at least 200 kcal was pure sugar (fruit juice, cola). I was not getting enough protein etc. to maintain my muscles. I exercised as much as I could (2-4 hours a week), but was not losing any weight nor getting any strength or endurance buildup. Instead, I just eventually kind of wrecked my body.

      Cutting the sugar and eating proper food, just 200-300 kcal more, would probably have had an effect on me. It's likely I had other deficiencies too. Iodine springs to mind.

      [1] Yes, I know, that's not 'fat', but my arms are plenty thin, and I had a waistline bordering on the doctors' recommendation of 98 cm.
      [2] That's how much I ate. Anything more than that and I'd have been stuffed.

    102. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by brantondaveperson · · Score: 2

      Calories in - calories spent = weight gained/lost

      This is clearly true, and almost completely irrelevant. As should be clear from the post by friesofdoom, some people simply want to eat more. They need to eat more before they feel similarly full to another person who may have eaten less. This means that those people, in order to remain thin, must fight a constant never-ending battle against themselves, that no human being can ever be expected to win. Of course if you eat more, you get fat, and if you eat less, you get thin. But imagine you were in a situation where if you didn't eat more than your body technically required, you felt hungry. Now imagine being hungry every day, for the rest of your life. Imagine that hunger, present, all the time. Imagine that if you gave in to that hunger, you would gain weight. Now imagine trying to remain thin in that situation. Perhaps if you were in that situation, you would not be so glib about 'thermodynamics'. And, of course, I am not the only person who understands this

    103. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Vermonter · · Score: 1

      You win, I fell for your troll.

    104. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      am very obese and I feel bad about it.

      Great. Is that 'feeling bad' actually helping? Or are you just basically feeling bad? Honest question.

    105. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Of course you will. But then, when you move back to a country that surrounds you constantly will fatty and sugary foods, that weight will pile right back on. Which simply demonstrates that the true cause of obesity is not individual moral failings, but the food that we are surrounded by. It's so unbelievably clear, that I find it astonishing that anyone could believe otherwise. The evidence is literally all around us.

    106. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      It literally requires no effort.

      This is completely untrue. Given a strong desire to eat unhealthy food, do you really believe that constantly fighting against that desire requires no effort? Does it also require no effort to forego other pleasures in your life? There are books on this subject.

    107. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) It's unhealthy and it leads to an (exremely) early death.
      2) It's not attractive to either gender.

      The bigger question is: By what morality is it okay to tell young people that it's okay to be mortally unhealthy and unattractive? Its not.

      Attractiveness is like anything else. Its a challenge and an ideal. We try to be educated. Physically git. Morally good. And NOT FAT.

      Yeah, it's hard sometimes. Deal with it. Life is a challenge.

    108. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.... You're saying that your body is using the fat reserves to survive and accrete muscle mass using the reserves that you have stored, while you are calorie restricted? Seems like operations are continuing as expected.

      If you manage to maintain the strength gain and weight loss over time, I would expect to review your food log as you are likely keeping one if you are on such a restrictive diet.

      Good luck. I don't know how you do it. On less than 4000 calories per day it's likely that I would be homicidal. (I weight ~300lbs at 6'1", but I have accreted a lot of muscle mass over the years.)

    109. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either you're lying or you can't measure calories.

      What is labeled as "food energy" is actually less than the energy that you could obtain by burning the food in a calorimeter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    110. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      It's the internet. You are being the angry "tough guy".

      I can be a "tough guy" off the Internet too. Except for the occasional fitness nut, most people aren't that stupid to provoke a person with enough muscle mass to put them in the hospital.

      If you don;t want to see fat people on the internet, don't post your picture on it.

      You posted a headshot from 2009 (thanks for reminding to change that pic). Here's most recent headshot is from 2013.

      http://cdn-www.cdreimer.com/images/cdreimer.jpg

      Both pictures are nearly identical in showing my head. What these pictures don't show is my broad shoulders and narrow waist. Even if I completely eliminated my body fat, I doubt my jowls will go ever away.

    111. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You've trolled that 1500 calorie claim for a _long_ time in a lot of stories and it is just not credible.

      I love trolling the trolls.

      You are now free to dismiss my empirically justifiable claims with your internet tough guy swagger, as per your usual MO.

      Slashdot exists to keep me amuse while I'm waiting for a script to finish at work. Thank you for your participation.

    112. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You win, I fell for your troll.

      Your comment made no sense whatsoever.

    113. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      No, we will call you a disgusting tub o' lard. Which is what you are. You didn't have to "accept being big", you simply lacked the willpower to do anything about your nauseating condition. You're a mass of yellowish flesh, your grossly misshapen body trundles about in a parody of human walk. The stench of sweat in your presence is overpowering. Why don't you do the right thing and kill yourself?

      You got the potty mouth of a third-grader! LOL!

    114. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      unless you only had it one day a month

      I'm entering month three since I started with a 1,500-calorie cap. The mechanical scales at the gym is no longer thunk at 350 pounds (maximum weight for scale), but it's very hard to get the scale to balance out. I may be down to 345 pounds.

    115. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another idiot that believes what fat people tell them. Yep, breaking the laws of thermodynamics is fine because "everyone is different". You're believing an addict when they say they're clean after a failed blood test.
      Their gut floras are magically grabbing calories out of thin air. Okay. He's the specialest snowflake that ever existed. That's much more viable than him being too dumb to count calories correctly or just outright lying to others (and himself).

      Luckily, nature does correct this: he'll be dead long before a normal-weight person. It's just a shame the taxpayers will be the ones shouldering the financial burden of keeping him alive so he can shovel more shit into his mouth for a while longer.

      Slashdot always was a fat sympathizing group. Mostly because I believe a majority of you are fat fucks, yourselves.

    116. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proven you to be a liar? What, do you expect someone to lock you in a room and feed you controlled meals for a year and document the results? How the fuck is anyone supposed to prove that you're lying when your life isn't documented 24/7 by a non-biased source?
      All the proof I actually need is you saying you eat 1500 calories and are continuing to be a fat fuck and that you ate 3000 calories WHILE working out and got to 400lbs. It's like you saying "2+1 = 98423.28, but no one could ever prove I'm shitty at math."

      Being this delusional. Just wow.

    117. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      All the proof I actually need is you saying you eat 1500 calories and are continuing to be a fat fuck and that you ate 3000 calories WHILE working out and got to 400lbs.

      If you want to gain muscle weight, you need to increase your calorie intake while lifting weights. I liked being at 400 pounds, I loved the muscle mass. But buying 4XXL shirts was a bitch.

      Being this delusional. Just wow.

      This is Slashdot. You must be new around here.

    118. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weight changes, but asshattery like yours is forever.

    119. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're miscounting your calories.

    120. Re: I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I think you're miscounting your calories.

      My growling stomach in the morning after a 12-hour fast disagrees with you.

    121. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      In my experience, there are plenty of people who like to hate on fat people, and that is a problem for lots of fat people. I haven't had a fat friend claim that fat was perfectly healthy, probably because they're smarter than that. (I have one who told his doctor that he'd go on any weight loss program that had better than a 5% success rate over five years. I think he pretty much gave up on his weight, but he knows it isn't healthy.)

      I'd like the fat shaming to stop, because then maybe some of my friends could stop feeling defensive and start addressing their weight issue more rationally.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    122. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Luckily, nature does correct this: he'll be dead long before a normal-weight person.

      Not likely. I don't smoke. I don't drink. I'm on a diet and work at the gym. I get my flu shot every year (perk from working in a hospital). I haven't seen a doctor in 16 years. Besides seasonal allergies, I haven't been ill in years. That's called living a healthy lifestyle.

    123. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Being fat meant there's too much food available to you while too little was available to all others.

      Being fat was a sign of wealth in African cultures. Some of the wealthiest people in America are black people. Go figure.

    124. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I'd like the fat shaming to stop, because then maybe some of my friends could stop feeling defensive and start addressing their weight issue more rationally.

      I think fat shaming will be the last form of legalized discrimination, which is one of the reasons why I'm pushing back against it.

    125. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dint believe you for one fucking second. If you are really doing what you are describing YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. Full. Fucking. Stop.

      Oh while I'm not the poster you are replying to, there is simply no fucking way in hell you are doing more than I am. I once was a fatty, I'm now off to ride 50km. BTW, walk 60 minutes a day. 20 minutes wont do shit.

    126. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Another idiot that believes what fat people tell them.

      You mean like the idealized versions of bodies we see in advertisements. You should really question your belief systems and try to uncover which version of photoshop they came from. Why is that any healthier?

      Ectomorph, Mesomorph, Endomorph do you even know what that means?

      Yep, breaking the laws of thermodynamics is fine because "everyone is different".

      Humans aren't internal combustion engines with a stoichiometric ratios and mechanical inefficiencies that can be factored.

      Their gut floras are magically grabbing calories out of thin air. Okay. He's the specialest snowflake that ever existed.

      No, people's gut flora are different. He can change it if he chooses just like you can stop being a cunt if you choose to.

      It's just a shame the taxpayers will be the ones shouldering the financial burden of keeping him alive so he can shovel more shit into his mouth for a while longer.

      Well there are people out there like that and it is unhealthy, however that is a factor of the fast food and sugar industry spending billions of dollars on getting us to shovel that shit down our throats. If you eat that shit and drink those crap drinks you're every bit to blame for not being able to exert self control.

      creimer is obviously functional because if he was morbidly obese he would barely be able to communicate and the evidence shows that this is not the case. In any case how does anything you say help people in that situation. If you were sincere you would be lobbying against the fast food industry for being able to advertise to children and I doubt you are doing that.

      Slashdot always was a fat sympathizing group. Mostly because I believe a majority of you are fat fucks, yourselves.

      I'm a purple belt in brazillian jui jitsu. My warm up is most people's work outs which is generally 2 hours of fighting a day 6 days a week, sometimes twice a day because I love it. I have abs that you can see and can do two finger pushups. I understand how ATP transaction in muscle work and I know I look good because of the way females look and interact with me.

      Take a step back and try to see what is going on in the world Mr AC. I've told you about my experiences and taken the time to do so but all you can do is meet it with hostility. This suggests you probably have some issues of your own and are in self denial about it. At least this man is honest about his experiences and all I am saying is they are consistent with people I have met and trained with.

      I suspect if you ever walked into a BJJ gym you would be folded into a cube and told to fuck off because you're coming across as a real asshole. Why don't you go focus on your own issues instead and try to make the world a better place.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    127. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I updated my picture on Indie Book Lounge. Thanks for point that out!

    128. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Try 50 grams carbs day and eat what you want.

      I did 150 grams of carbs and ate whatever I wanted for four years. When I put a calorie cap on what I ate two months ago, it made a difference. I'll wait another four months before I reduce my carb intake.

    129. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      i was 10lb 10oz. I'm a normal build at 33. Get your shit together, son.

      I'm being lectured by a millennial. How cute.

    130. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I once was a fatty, I'm now off to ride 50km.

      I used to ride my bike 20 miles per day for three years to a restaurant job in a different city. My weight during that time was 325 pounds.

    131. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by countach · · Score: 1

      They should have gone on a tofu diet. all protein, no sugar or carbs, zero GI. makes you feel full.

    132. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by countach · · Score: 1

      Because they are eating the wrong things. Should be eating tofu and lo-GI.

    133. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      Yes. Obviously. But we do not live in a society that surrounds us with easy access to those foods. Quite the opposite in fact.

    134. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were 400lbs of pure fat, just like every other morbidly obese fuck. You're gonna talk to me about fitness when you spew out shit like this? You actually think 3000 calories is enough to "builk" up to 400lbs of "mostly muscle"? It's like you're a living, breathing fatguy stereotype.

      I'm done. You need professional help.

    135. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      You were 400lbs of pure fat, just like every other morbidly obese fuck.

      Nope. You're totally wrong on that point.

      You're gonna talk to me about fitness when you spew out shit like this?

      You're assuming that the human body is a perfect thermodynamic machine. It is — on paper. Individual people are deeply flawed thermodynamic machines. We're all different.

      I'm done.

      I doubt that. ACs reply to me all the time.

    136. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      i'm no where near a fitness nut, but that lady is super obese and i'll be shocked if she isn't dead in the next 3 years at that weight.

      It's the same as seeing a heroin addict with needle scars up and down both arms, but you don't have a moment of herion users speaking up for themselves and shaming anyone concerned about their addiction.

    137. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      but in your mind anyone you disagree with is being insincere. see the problem?

    138. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      the bullies are the ones punching people for expressing their opinion. you just expressed a willingness to intimidate another person with violent force for expressing themselves.. and then you called them a bully.

      I think you have your head up your ass, maybe you should come punch me in the mouth

    139. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      i'm no where near a fitness nut, but that lady is super obese and i'll be shocked if she isn't dead in the next 3 years at that weight.

      As another poster pointed out, she's 350 pounds. I've been 300 to 400 pounds for my entire adult life. I'm 46-years-old. I don't smoke, I don't drink, I exercise regularly, I'm on a low-carb diet and I get my flu shots every year. I haven't seen a doctor in 16 years because the only thing I get each year is allergies. I've been hearing for years that I'm going to drop dead at any moment. I don't pay attention to that nonsense.

    140. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      but in your mind anyone you disagree with is being insincere. see the problem?

      I don't have a problem with someone wanting to talk to me about my health. I do have a problem with someone getting into my face to talk me about my health. One person is sincere and polite, the other person is insincere and confrontational. See the problem?

    141. Re:I doubt it was innocent mistake by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      I think you have your head up your ass, maybe you should come punch me in the mouth

      Are you standing in my face? No.

      Are you trying to intimidate me? No.

      Are you threatening me with physical violence if I don't cower before you? No.

      Do I care about your opinion? Oh, hell no.

  5. Good riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An advertisement is supposed to be appealing to people.
    The practical reality is, that the vast majority of people find thin/trim girls attactive, and fat/chubby girls unattractive.
    And this one is not just a little chubby, but WAY too chubby. She is absolutely disgusting.
    No amount of politically-correct-speak is going to change this simple basic fact.
    Complaining about "discrimination" is ridiculous.

    An advertisement for a japanese restaurant is going to use japanese people, not black or caucasian...
    An advertisement for Nike or other sports shoes is going to use a strong muscular man, not a skinny nerd..
    An advertisement for women's clothes is going to use a thin/trim girl, not a fat pig...

    It's just common sense.

    1. Re:Good riddance! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight. I'm not sure I with it completely, but the image is suitable.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Good riddance! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      It is more a political or social message. Are those allowed?

      Not all ads are about cars and hamburgers.

      --
      (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
    3. Re:Good riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight

      Which is complete bullshit. Obesity is not healthy. They are complete opposites.

    4. Re:Good riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight."

      Unless of course you obsess over being really skinny/anorexic. That's unhealthy AND is causing other people to aspire to be like you so should not be condoned in the slightest.

      So remember, picture of 350 lb person in a bikini is good ... it promotes a positive perspective of your body the way it is, regardless of what people want to say is "healthy". Picture of 100lb anorexic in a bikini is bad ... it promotes an unhealthy image that might cause others to emulate that body.

    5. Re:Good riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "An advertisement is supposed to be appealing to people."

      No, it's just supposed to be appealing to the target audience.

      An advertisement for a japanese restaurant is going to use japanese people, not black or caucasian...
      An advertisement for Nike or other sports shoes is going to use a strong muscular man, not a skinny nerd..
      An advertisement for women's clothes is going to use a thin/trim girl, not a fat pig...

      And what is an advertisement for a feminist event about body image going to use?

    6. Re:Good riddance! by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      It's an advert for body positivism, the idea that health is more important than a certain body shape or weight.

      It's not a boolean, it's a sliding scale. Health is more important when you're 5kg overweight. Weight is more important when you are (like the woman in the photo) close on to 70kg overweight.

      We don't allow advertisments to tell people that smoking is healthy. Why should we allow advertisments that tell people morbid obesity is healthy?

      --
      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
    7. Re:Good riddance! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's where I tend to agree with you. At some point extreme weight does start to become a health issue. But below that threshold, I tend to agree that it's better to be healthy than look like a photoshopped model (who is probably quite unhealthy).

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    8. Re:Good riddance! by tsqr · · Score: 1

      An advertisement is supposed to be appealing to people.

      No. An advertisement is supposed to make an impression on the observer. The deeper the impression, the more successful the advertisement. If the advertisement gets people to talk about it, as in your case, it's very successful.

    9. Re: Good riddance! by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      A 350lb body does not promote any kind of health. It's just as bad as the 100lb starving ones.

    10. Re: Good riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoosh

    11. Re:Good riddance! by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The way I look at it,

      1) "I am not a bad person just because I am fat"
      2) "I have good qualities even though I am fat"
      3) "People shouldn't mock fat people"

      Those are all good ideas, and we should especially spread the last one. However,

      1) "I am perfectly healthy even though I am fat"

      There are serious problems with that idea.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  6. Billy Connolly by lobiusmoop · · Score: 0

    From his 'Live in New York' show:

    "Be as fat as you want... just don't come on the plane with me."

    Along with his sound advice for anyone looking to lose weight:

    "Don't eat anything that comes in a bucket. Buckets are the kitchen utensils of the farm yard."

    --
    "I bless every day that I continue to live, for every day is pure profit."
  7. how is this news for nerds? or stuff that matters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This doesn't matter to me as a nerd.

  8. internet scandal of the week by known_coward_69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    99% of us don't care

    1. Re:internet scandal of the week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      99% of us don't care

      I am the 99%!

    2. Re:internet scandal of the week by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      99% of us don't care

      Ironically also the top trending and most commented on article on Slashdot today.

  9. Conservative bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shame on FB for pushing conservative body image standards.

  10. Not just 'unhealthy' bodies. by Robadob · · Score: 1

    They also recently rejected a sponsored post by a powerlifter because it contained a tape measure as it might "invoke a negative reaction from viewers". http://imgur.com/APsVNp7

  11. Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spin" by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1

    I don't care whether it is in any compliance of any guidelines - an overweight woman wearing a bikini is repulsive, no matter what "plus size" spin the "unapologetically feminist" organization puts on it.

    Anybody can dispute otherwise, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So sue me.

    --
    Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
  12. Dating site ads.... by Bugler412 · · Score: 1

    Yes, but the dating site ads that people are inundated with on the site with breasts photoshopped up to about 200% actual size with gravity defying physics are perfectly OK

    1. Re:Dating site ads.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with photo shopped breasts to 200% of their size.
      I prefer small breasts, as long as fat ladies don't shrink their breasts to get my attention, all is fine.

      How a society became so ill that woman think breasts so big that you get spine issues are a "good thing" or sexy or beautiful is beyond me.

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    2. Re:Dating site ads.... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      There's a basic difference between X is good (and if you are ~X, by implication you suck) and ~X is bad, and if you are ~X, fuck you.

      I think it's fine to say that ads shouldn't show fat people and advertise weight loss products. Whereas, dating sites (and many others) obviously use sex to sell.

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    3. Re:Dating site ads.... by Moridineas · · Score: 2

      How a society became so ill that woman think breasts so big that you get spine issues are a "good thing" or sexy or beautiful is beyond me.

      It's called sexual dimorphism. Why do you think "society" has anything to do with it?

    4. Re:Dating site ads.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Because breast implants and the desire for big breasts only are a big issue in certain countries.

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    5. Re:Dating site ads.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hang on! What? Advertisements for weight loss products shouldn't show people for whom the product is developed? Excuse me? There is 0 logic in there. 'You're not aloud to show people without a car in car ads because well..you know that shames them because they don't have a car."...if you see an ad about weightloss with a fat person in it & you can empathize perhaps your fat and the product is designed for you? Now, if your not in the market for losing weight why look at the ad?

    6. Re:Dating site ads.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Sexual animals frequently evolve exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics (peacock? Plenty of primate examples, etc). Butts and breasts are the two most common exaggerated traits in humans. My point is not that all humans find the exact same traits attractive but rather that it's programmed into us to be drawn towards these exaggerated traits.

      I heard an interesting talk the other day in which the speaker speculated that human males get aroused watching other people have sex because, evolutionarily, men who are ready to spring into action after another male are more likely to procreate successfully. (The physical structure of the penis seeming to be especially good at scooping semen out.)

    7. Re:Dating site ads.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      What people find "sexy" is mostly culture.

      The genes are only a very little part. We are minimum 40,000 years after the time where only genes defined what we are doing.

      men who are ready to spring into action after another male are more likely to procreate successfully.
      Which is biologically wrong, as the semen of the first one is killing the semen of the following ones. Humans have three kinds of sperms, sperms that fertilize the egg, sperms that build a cocoon like buffer in front of the womb to prevent "enemy sperms" to get in and killer sperms that actively hunt "enemy sperms".

      And: speculated that human males get aroused watching other people have sex the same is true for women.

      Getting aroused like that much more likely leads to orgies in a tribe like society where everyone has sex with his/her spouse when some one started it.

      Even amoung apes "rape" is "illegal" and punished by the elders.

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    8. Re:Dating site ads.... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Advertisements for weight loss products shouldn't show people for whom the product is developed?

      Advertisements for weight loss products should sell the benefits of their products to people who want to lose wait. They shouldn't try to increase demand by making people feel shitty unless they conform to a stereotype. This is different from teh car, where they are selling... a car. A weightloss product with a picture of a model is promising "you get to look like this" whereas they cannot even promise you will lose weight.

      Advertiser caused anxiety/body issues have caused a lot of problems in the past, redefining beauty standards for corporate profit. The world would have been better off without them.

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    9. Re:Dating site ads.... by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      What people find "sexy" is mostly culture.

      As I said before, it's not that different societies can have different ideals of beauty or "sexiness", it's that what is "sexy" is almost always exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics. That's what's programmed into us. Interest in phalluses, pudenda, butts, and breasts, is pretty much universal. (Straight male primates are interested in other males' penises too, FWIW.)

      No, interest in breasts is not a uniquely western thing (see Kama Sutra, see ancient Chinese figurines and art, medieval Persian art, etc.), for the obvious reason that stimulation of breasts produces an erotic response.

      Amongst humans, breast size, penis size, and butt size have all been sexuality selected for. That's evolution for you.

      Which is biologically wrong, as the semen of the first one is killing the semen of the following ones. Humans have three kinds of sperms, sperms that fertilize the egg, sperms that build a cocoon like buffer in front of the womb to prevent "enemy sperms" to get in and killer sperms that actively hunt "enemy sperms".

      Thus the belief that the "shovel" shape of the human penis is design to scoop out the previously present semen. See, e.g., http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/penis-shape-explanation_n_1642613.html

      Getting aroused like that much more likely leads to orgies in a tribe like society where everyone has sex with his/her spouse when some one started it.

      Interesting, I've never read that speculation (well, other than in Clan of the Cave Bears--the sequels at least) nor read about any precedent in any extant human societies. Could be logical. Give the above belief about the physical structure of the penis, I would still be more inclined to go with the "ready for action" theory.

    10. Re:Dating site ads.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Luckily in most nations I hang around we prefer quality over quantity :D

      So a very nice looking (that includes small) female breast is much more honoured than a big one :D

      The penis shape explanation is imho bogus, but well ... mine works fine so I don't care.

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  13. And here come those saying Facebook isn't biased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Facebook wasn't biased, WHY ARE THEY MAKING CHANGES?!?!

    Facebook said it had changed some of the procedures for its "Trending Topics" section after a news report alleging it suppressed conservative news prompted a Congressional demand for more transparency.

    The company said an internal probe showed no evidence of political bias in the selection of news stories for Trending Topics, a feature that is separate from the main "news feed" where most Facebook users get their news.

    Yeah, right. Their probe "showed no evidence of political bias. They why this:

    "Our investigation could not fully exclude the possibility of isolated improper actions or unintentional bias in the implementation of our guidelines or policies," Colin Stretch, Facebook's General Counsel, wrote...

    Yeah, it was all "isolated" and "unintentional".

    BULLSHIT.

    Because if the bias were "isolated" and "unintentional", Facebook wouldn't be changing the way they process trending topics.

  14. Facebook vs. Feminists by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a bit like a reverse Alien vs. Predator.

    Whoever loses
    We win

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    1. Re:Facebook vs. Feminists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, feminists losing is great for bigoted misogynistic males I guess.

    2. Re:Facebook vs. Feminists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. It's like playing a game and seeing my two closest enemies fighting each other. It's great until one of them wins, takes over the other, and then comes looking for me.

      The only way this could be good for me is if I was strong enough to take out one of them while they were distracted, which is never going to happen because I can't do shit about Facebook or feminism.

    3. Re:Facebook vs. Feminists by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You needn't be misogynist to understand that the whole mess has gone out of proportion. Any form of criticism is verboten, no matter how justified.

      You don't have to look any further than the Ghostbusters trailer. A trailer that has been panned by critics left and right, nearly all of them explaining exactly WHY it is a train wreck. The FX look like something you'd expect from straight-to-TV movies, the characters are uninteresting and one-dimensional, the presentation uninspired and to top it all off, the only black lead character comes across like a racist stereotype.

      But that's not allowed. It's a movie with 4 female lead characters so if you dare to not like it, you must hate women. It can't be that the movie is shit.

      It's Kirk Cameron's Saving Chrsitmas all over. It can't be that it's BORING as fuck to watch two guys yak in a car for an hour, no, you must hate Christianity if you don't like that movie!

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    4. Re:Facebook vs. Feminists by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You still expect someone to win. That's not going to happen. Who should win? And most of all, how? The only thing that could happen, and most likely will, is that Facebook will issue a token "whoopsie, sorry" message and that's it. Nobody wins, nobody loses, but at least both are occupied for a while.

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  15. Quickie Mart by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Facebook is like a convenience store. You go there for specific and fairly basic reasons: share photos with families and friends, let them know what's going on in your life, message each other and arrange get togethers...probably 90% of what a person does on Facebook.

    But, like a convenience store, the places is polluted with hundreds of items you have no interest in and would never buy or use. And if you did actually want any of it, you sure as hell wouldn't get it from a convenience store....or Facebook.

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    1. Re:Quickie Mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I know, I haven't had an Facebook account for some time since I shut it down. It does come with at few problems.
      1) The local group for our small town are good at sharing information, used stuff they want to get rid of, communication with the local supermarked, talking to the trash collectors about picking up your trashcan in a different location because of road work or snow. Suspicious characters snooping around on peoples properties gets noticed and shared.
      2) Our home owners acc. has a group there sharing info.
      3) The 2 MTB clubs I am a member of shares track conditions on Facebook.

      Sadly, these are things I'd rather see on twitter or something like that where I don't have to get into the whole "social" media deal.

    2. Re:Quickie Mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is like a convenience store. You go there for specific and fairly basic reasons: share photos with everybody and his dog plus every advertiser under the sun, let them know what's going on in your life

    3. Re:Quickie Mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what else convenience stores are polluted with?

      Facebook users.

  16. Let's be honest. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

    Many of the +sized model are really ++++++++++++++++sized.
    They managed to fuck up the pirelli calendar with that. :D

    1. Re:Let's be honest. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and then i actually looked at the picture on TFA. 10*plus size indeed.

    2. Re:Let's be honest. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Many of the +sized model are really ++++++++++++++++sized.
      They managed to fuck up the pirelli calendar with that. :D

      But it works great for Michelin.

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    3. Re:Let's be honest. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

      I guess Bibendum are the exception. :)

  17. Is this really healthy? by diakka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll bet that nobody would kick up much of a fuss if they decided to ban a photo of an anorexic model. Tess Holiday, being morbidly obese, obviously suffers from disordered eating due to a food addiction, yet is paraded around as some kind of paragon of moral virtue, while pictures of women with anorexia would be censored for being harmful to little girls. But seriously, do you think that presenting a morbidly obese woman as a socially acceptable norm sends girls a message about body image that is any less harmful?

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    1. Re:Is this really healthy? by skipkent · · Score: 1

      According to the SJW crowd. losing weight makes you fatphobic: http://i.imgur.com/0v0bHs0.png
      And if you're able to stand on your own then you are as healthy as anyone else: http://i.imgur.com/URsVifV.jpg

    2. Re:Is this really healthy? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a complex topic (I keep saying that about things...).

      There's a fairly-curvy model out there who did a bunch of ads pushing back on fat shaming, claiming she's proud to be fat. SHE'S HAWT. Seriously. She has firm abs. She's got larger, padded, but firm thighs. She has a narrow waist, broad hips, and an overall-feminine form. She is the depiction of beauty in old Greek art. This is not a fat chick.

      That should tell you something about this whole political wargarble.

      People are going out with 600-pound land whales shaped like miniature cattle and claiming they're healthy and proud and there's nothing wrong with them. Bullshit. They're morbidly obese. "Morbidly" does not mean "I disagree with this because it hurts my little feelings"; it means "you are exposed to severe health problems."

      Fat people are unhealthy. The additional belly fat causes more heart burn, leading to esophageal cancer and bad teeth (and halitosis). They're more at-risk for diabeetus. Their hearts have to work harder, but aren't equipped to work harder--larger, more buff people have made more work for their hearts while making their hearts stronger--and so are more prone to failure. Their metabolism isn't burning all the crap away, so their blood cholesterol is more likely to clot and get stuck in odd places (coronary arteries, cranial arteries, etc., heart attacks and strokes are bad). They also smell bad--we can put smokers on that list, too.

      That's what "morbidly obese" is: you're fat to the point of serious damage to yourself.

      On top of all that, what makes a good body image is not what you think about your body; it's what society thinks about it. What *we* find attractive is what *is* attractive. There's fat-chick dudes who go riding the hog, and that's their business, and you and them can get along just fine; but when 98% of all dudes are telling you you're way too fat and not attractive, that means you're way too fat and not attractive. It's the same as if I started insisting all girls are supposed to want to have sex with me because I'm pantie-melting hot--I can keep saying it, but it's not gonna get any more true unless I start doing some serious push-ups. Stick with your fat fetish man and stop telling us all what we're supposed to think about it.

    3. Re:Is this really healthy? by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

      The SJW crowd are a never ending source of comedy. I liked the recent one about huffpo's all woman editorial meeting. Comedy gold.

    4. Re:Is this really healthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "According to the SJW crowd. losing weight makes you fatphobic"

      Not to mention you have to be careful now if you post a photo of yourself getting fit and skinny quickly after giving birth. That also means you hate fat people and are pressuring them to lose weight.

      Taking the "fat phobia" further, it's getting to the point where if a man chooses a skinny woman over a fat one, he must hate fat people. People need to be "trained" to find fat women more attractive because they have been "trained" to think otherwise and must be wrong. If you don't date someone overweight there is a problem with you.

    5. Re:Is this really healthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SHE'S HAWT. Seriously. She has firm abs. She's got larger, padded, but firm thighs. She has a narrow waist, broad hips, and an overall-feminine form. She is the depiction of beauty in old Greek art.

      Name please? For...uh...research.

    6. Re:Is this really healthy? by skipkent · · Score: 1

      "According to the SJW crowd. losing weight makes you fatphobic"

      Not to mention you have to be careful now if you post a photo of yourself getting fit and skinny quickly after giving birth. That also means you hate fat people and are pressuring them to lose weight.

      Taking the "fat phobia" further, it's getting to the point where if a man chooses a skinny woman over a fat one, he must hate fat people. People need to be "trained" to find fat women more attractive because they have been "trained" to think otherwise and must be wrong. If you don't date someone overweight there is a problem with you.

      There are actually services for women to rate doctors that don't harp people to lose weight when they are obese. It's pure insanity when a doctor can't express concern over someones well being because it may trigger them.

    7. Re:Is this really healthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      You've made an extensive presentation about how her life choices are unhealthy. True, that it is a matter of choice is extremely scientifically debatable, but let's roll with it.

      Please add in the part explaining how her health is your business.

    8. Re:Is this really healthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hidden blessing. They'll all die in agony of related health issues and it'll keep happening until the ones still living get a fucking clue.

      They'll cull themselves out of existence eventually through sheer stupidity.

    9. Re:Is this really healthy? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      That's an odd twist. It's true that doctors blame everything on weight if you're overweight. No chance for an accurate diagnosis when there's low-hanging fruit to jump at. But that's another thing entirely from avoiding a doctor who might suggest there's some benefit and that there are fewer health problems with being lighter.

    10. Re:Is this really healthy? by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      You've made an extensive presentation about how her life choices are unhealthy. True, that it is a matter of choice is extremely scientifically debatable, but let's roll with it.

      Please add in the part explaining how her health is your business.

      Because they are claiming it is healthy. Since that is the claim, that makes it the subject for the discussion.

    11. Re:Is this really healthy? by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

      My personal favorite :
      http://trendmodels.es/fine-bau...

    12. Re:Is this really healthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not before we have single payer health care and they single handedly destroy the health care system by forcing it to take care of them.

      "I'm sorry you have cancer, but unfortunately we have no money for treatment because we spend too much on heart disease and diabetes treatments."

    13. Re:Is this really healthy? by tgv · · Score: 1

      They're just pandering to their users: lazy, middle-aged women with died hair. And they are doing their best to keep them sitting on the sofa in a onesie, clicking their bloody ads.

    14. Re:Is this really healthy? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      While there are actually men who want women with a fairly ... let's say if they were to be represented by an Euclid body it would be a sphere... body, I still have to find the woman who goes after the lardo look.

      So who needs training here, eh?

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    15. Re:Is this really healthy? by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      There's a fairly-curvy model out there who did a bunch of ads pushing back on fat shaming, claiming she's proud to be fat. SHE'S HAWT.

      Pics or she doesn't exist. Or her name.

    16. Re:Is this really healthy? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Iskra Lawrence.

    17. Re:Is this really healthy? by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Yumyumyum.

    18. Re:Is this really healthy? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between harping on someone and expressing concern. No doctor has been harping on me to lose weight, but I've been informed that losing some would be a good thing for me to do.

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    19. Re:Is this really healthy? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      No doctor has been harping on me to lose weight, but I've been informed that losing some would be a good thing for me to do.

      I went to a doctor many years ago because my allergies were very bad. The doctor, ex-military, told me three time that I was fat. I asked him what does being fat has to do with my allergies. He kicked me out of his office.

  18. Screw Tess Holiday, she's a scammer by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 4, Interesting
    She has scammed her supporters numerous times the below text was taken from this link, to see the image gallery from the Reddit chain click here.

    There's no doubt in my mind that you all know who Tess Holliday is. Founder of "Eff your beauty standards", plus size model, (apparent) body positivity icon.. oh, and scam artist! In November 2014 hundreds of her loyal fans purchased shirts with her "EYBS" branding emblazoned on them,also under the impression that a portion of the proceeds would be donated to a Domestic Violence charity (many fans have said that the reason they were able to justify spending $40 on a shirt is that they were glad that some of the money would to go a DV charity). Not only did hundreds of fans NEVER receive their shirts/merchandise, but not a single cent went to charity. Fans asked Holliday why they hadn't received their items yet via Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, only to be blocked by her (Tess herself has admitted that she is in control of all of her social media accounts).

    After several attemps by many disappointed fans, the Facebook group "Eff your Customer Service" began. With now 450 members, Holliday could no longer ignore the fans who had rallied against her.

    The clothing company Redress took on Holliday's EYBS merchandising responsibilities, and tried their best to reimburse customers.

    Still, many were disappointed that none of the proceeds from their purchases were going to the DV charity as they had been lead to believe. Holliday claims that the reason for this is because EYBS operated at a loss, despite doing their own packing, advertising and selling shirts at $40 each. Fans asked her why she couldn't just donate some of her own fortune to the charity to write her wrongs, however no comment was made. Holliday (whose real name is Ryann Maegan) claims to earn 6 figures, and her constant updates on her expensive lifestyle understandably angered fans who were left with no refund, no shirt, and no DV charity contribution.

    Of course, making donations to things like Amber Rose's Slutwalk is no problem!

    Holliday's scamming/thievery goes even further, as this image suggests. The identity of the person who made this comment is protected, as this Facebook group was a secret group where people could talk about their experiences with her without facing scrutiny from Holliday and her friends, who are constantly harassing anybody who speaks out about her.

    Holliday is also known as a horrible person to work with. Despite claiming to be against traditional beauty standards and standing up for body positivity, many photographers who have worked with her in the past have said that they will never choose to work with her again.

    Additionally, the plus size clothing company Torrid have severed ties with Holliday for a number of reasons.

    In a Buzzfeed video, Holliday is seen claiming to be a size 22, while complaining about the fit of a pair of size 28 Torrid shorts, despite having modelled for them in the past.

    Lastly, Holliday's general stalking-behaviour of people speaking out about her says a lot about what kind of person she is. She knows she's doing wrong, and she knows that people can tear her down if they need to.

    tl;dr, Don't hate Tess Holliday because she's fat, hate her because she's a scam artist, liar, and generally a bad person.

    Her response to this? Blame everyone but herself in the press like here in People magazine, the comments sections are particularly informative about the fact that not everything has been addressed. Any group associated with this person is enabling a scam artist.

    1. Re:Screw Tess Holiday, she's a scammer by sinij · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Any group associated with this person is enabling a scam artist.

      Criticizing her in public forum is almost impossible. She is a) feminist b) plus sized person c) public advocate. No matter what she does to you, just preemptively apologize and hopefully SJW lynch mob won't completely ruin your life.

    2. Re:Screw Tess Holiday, she's a scammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those things don't cost ME any money.

      But her being a fat tub of shit does cost ME (along with every taxpayer in the country) money tho.

  19. Re:Modern Modeling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound jealous. Is it because we "degenerates" have more fun than you?

  20. Re:Modern Modeling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  21. Fit people not allowed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm okay with this ad. I'm okay with Facebook reversing its stance. But I'm worried about this: "Ads may not depict a state of health or body weight as being perfect or extremely undesirable"

    What are they saying here, that they wouldn't allow an ad with a fit person wearing the same bikini? Isn't this the pendulum swinging too far to the left, and into thin-shaming territory? One can be proud to be fat (or gay, or a minority, or vegan, or gender fluid, or what have you), but not for making the choice to work out hard and be fit?

    I'm not even fit, and this offends me. Harrison Bergeron is no longer fiction.

    1. Re:Fit people not allowed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't want equality, they want revenge. They want to be the oppressors.

  22. So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook is not the government. It does not have a legally binding equal opportunities initiative.

    This commercial parasite is now so big and embedded into so many peoples' everyday activity that they must now make government level decisions.

    In the nation of Facebook you're too fucking fat. Cue sensationalist headline, public outrage and the obvious back-draft of various brain farts.

    Fuck Facebook. Fuck fat asses showing their bodies like it's natural to have 40% body -what have they been smoking? Is this some feminist agenda for women to not only show hairy armpits but also obese bodies? -do they really wanna ruin my fake FB account voyeurism? I sometimes do that while eating FFS.

      HOWEVER, Facebook, IMNSHO are not right to disallow people from posting pictures of themselves that are within the guidelines. You know, the made-up rules #justbecause that they themselves created. Solution? we need someone at FB please start initiate some auto tagging. Tags such as "dangerously anorexic", "morbidly obese", "overflowing with fat" etc spring to mine. Then we can all finally set filters to "Hot BBW" and forget less stigmatised female forms.

    It's not lame it's awesome! Imagine the additional revenue streams! -clothes for about-to-die lard asses and the latest super powerful laxatives for bulimic

    I just created FB a new revenue stream. Why do I bother to post my genius on Slashdot instead of cashing in on the multitude of internet losers?? -that's right folks because SHARING IS CARING :-)

    Anonymous Coward, bringing you content every fucking day. I need no payment just hug me next time you see me.

  23. Bikini by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a bikini when it's covered with two sails, it's a sloop.

  24. Re:Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beauty may lie in the beholder's eye,
    but one thing's objectively true:
    an overweight gal in a swimsuit will never
    be *half* as repulsive as you.

  25. Re:Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spi by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1

    And nowhere near as repulsive as the coward hiding behind the AC.

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  26. Your mama is so fat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Facebook data mining software refuses to collect her biometrics.

  27. Dangerouse Road for FaceSpace by DarkOx · · Score: 1

    Basically they have just admitted their policy is meaningless. They will bend and twist the language as needed when political pressure is applied.

    They are essentially giving up the curating and running of their own site, its mob rules now.

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  28. TIL people still use facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After they banned my legitimate business page after my years of effort building it, I don't use the site anymore.

  29. Scam artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently she's a pretty shitty person all around: link

    1. Re:Scam artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can only imagine the shit she spreads around. I feel bad for the toilet.

      No doubt she's a master with a plunger.

  30. Disgusting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This woman is absolutely disgusting, and I don't see how anybody in their right mind could possibly find her attractive.

  31. Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just want to be clear about what is being discussed here:

    1) The feminist group wants to show photos of half-naked obese women because it helps to "destroy" the concept of the perfect body?

    (Already, I'm completely lost. How does this work exactly? Men see a fat woman in a bikini, and start to get turned on -- thereby changing the standards of beauty? Would that work with other images too?)

    2) The feminist group wants men to stop "objectifying women" physically, so they are using a photograph of a fat woman in a bikini to help us stop thinking about women ... in terms of their physical bodies.

    (Swoooooooosh!...that was some kind of feminist logic doing a low-altitude fly-by somewhere near my head)

    1. Re:Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the feminist group wants to make men puke when they see a woman in bikini. After seeing the beached whale I now have to undergo therapy to be able to look again at women in bikini and think happy thoughts.
      Note: by bikini I mean some kind of swim suit, not that oversized tent the said whale was wearing.

    2. Re:Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel sorry for you, and all the stupid reactionaries.

    3. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point comes off to me as being that some people aren't happy with the fact that most males have their own ideas about what is attractive to them (which sometimes includes other males while excluding all females) and that often means no attractiveness to certain body types, of which being grossly overweight often falls out of bounds (which if you consider evolution, that actually does make sense.)

      I don't think it is right or wrong for anybody to have a particular thing that they're attractive to and thus want to prefer it, rather, it just is, and that's life. However I do think it is wrong for people to shame other people for not wanting a relationship with a certain segment of the population. For example, if you're white and you don't want to ever date a black person, that is perfectly acceptable.

    4. Re:Please help me understand by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's like how I try to convince women that a being a fat, alcoholic slob is attractive by posting pictures of myself passed out naked on the street.

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    5. Re:Please help me understand by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      What amazes me is, on Tinder, how many women have photos of themselves holding an alcoholic drink. They're not passed out naked (yet), but there's definitely a huge culture of alcohol consumption here. I'm not a teetotaler either, but when you post photos of yourself on a dating site, the idea is to 1) show what you look like, and 2) show yourself doing something that other people would like to do with you. So of course you see people posting photos of themselves at exotic locations, because even though Macchu Picchu is cliché now, who doesn't want to travel the world if they can afford it? But when you post a bunch of photos of yourself at the bar, that makes it look like you're an alcoholic who just spends all their time at the bar instead of doing something more interesting.

    6. Re:Please help me understand by Moridineas · · Score: 2

      Warcraft 3, dryad unit, line after being clicked a bunch:

      Want to hear my human call? said in Valley Girl voice "I'm so wasted--I'm sooo wasted!"

    7. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not about individual's preferences.

      Here's a tip though. The novelty of having a magazine body wears off quickly. And it doesn't guarantee good sex either. It certainly doesn't correlate with a good personally or good relationship either. Once the lights are off, once you get into doing things together... there are more important things.

      Also, there is something wrong with not ever wanting to date a black person. What possible reason could there be other than racism? Black people have all body types, all personality types... if it's just skin colour, that's terrible.

      That might be the way you want things to be, but our biology doesn't work that way. Believe it or not, it is completely impossible for a male to control whether or not he has an erection and thus can even have intercourse. It truly is an involuntary function, much like your heartbeat. Sure, you can produce the circumstances that cause you to have an erection, just like you can run to cause your heart to beat faster, but it still remains out of your control. This is also why it's possible for a female to rape a male, triggering involuntary ejaculation. Similar biological processes determine what the male would rather have in a mate, and that can exclude any number of things, big or small, from hair color to personality.

      Likewise, it's not racist to have no attraction to somebody of the opposite race, just as it's not sexist for homosexuals to have no attraction to the opposite sex.

    8. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of non-racist reasons for not wanting to date people of a particular race. Simple lack of attraction, cultural differences, fear of disease (blacks for example are 44% of new HIV/AIDS cases per year despite being only 12% of the population as of 2014).

      My little sister (early 20's) recently had a (rather overweight) friend of hers try to put on the moves and she rejected his advances. He started harassing her online and offline posting about how she's biased against fat people because he's such a perfect guy and if she's not biased against fat people he should be dating her. In reality she's always seen him as a friend and she's crushing on some other guy right now so he hasn't got a chance.

      Realistically people are going to date whoever they're attracted to, don't be the fat stalker kid and think that people are being biased against *you*. Move on.

    9. Re: Please help me understand by William+Baric · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wish I could be like you and control my ejaculation through thought alone. That way, instead of having to watch porn and waste 5 minutes masturbating, I could just think about it and tada! Instant orgasm!

      When I think about all the money I spent, all the time I wasted, and all the shit I had to do simply to have sex... I sincerely envy you.

    10. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

      Even if you orgasm with thought alone, you're creating the circumstances that will trigger it; thought alone can make your heart beat faster as well. However you can't just orgasm on demand, and if you could have an erection on demand, then nobody would ever buy Viagra.

      And no, attractiveness or lack thereof isn't ever racist. I found myself less attracted to this girl I knew who changed her hair to blonde, and I don't have anything against blonde, I'm just not as attracted to it. And guess what? That's very common. Skin color is much more noticeable than hair color, so it makes sense that somebody would feel that way. And believe it or not, humans have a natural biological preference to associate with people who look more like themselves, which includes relationships.

    11. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if I'm racist for not being attractive to enough black women. I think I would find a Caucasian or Asian that is a 5-7 more attractive than a black 6-9... with broadly painted brush.

      I don't care for Tyra Banks, nor Halle Berry. But the black actress from Boston Public I find irresistible.

      I sometimes wonder if it's thinking about the hair, as the whole wig thing just kills attractiveness for me. It's what takes polish off from Beyonce, who I do think is very attractive.

    12. Re: Please help me understand by Petfish · · Score: 1

      Likewise, it's not racist to have no attraction to somebody of the opposite race, just as it's not sexist for homosexuals to have no attraction to the opposite sex.

      There is an opposite race?

    13. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      There is an opposite race?

      Strictly within the context of the conversation, only two were mentioned, so yes.

    14. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black people stink.

    15. Re: Please help me understand by righteousness · · Score: 1

      There is an opposite race?

      Strictly within the context of the conversation, only two were mentioned, so yes.

      Err, no. I see people talking about black skin and light skin in the conversation. That's skin colour, not race. You do know that there's more than one race with black skin, don't you? Just like there's more than one race with light skin.

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    16. Re: Please help me understand by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish I could be like you and control my ejaculation through thought alone. That way, instead of having to watch porn and waste 5 minutes masturbating, I could just think about it and tada! Instant orgasm!

      The Internet has some pictures of fat chicks in bikinis if that would help.

    17. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Err, no. I see people talking about black skin and light skin in the conversation. That's skin colour, not race. You do know that there's more than one race with black skin, don't you? Just like there's more than one race with light skin.

      Well if you want to be a dick and split hairs over semantics then you're wrong because humans are just one race.

    18. Re: Please help me understand by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Not being into the person you're with is a definite problem. The stresses of normal life are easier to tolerate when you don't have a deep seated but suppressed revulsion for who you are with. A certain contingent likes to pretend that it's "enlightened" to ignore you inner animal but it's really just unnatural and stupid.

      And again we come back to the liberal inclination to engage in the very sort of oppression they claim is wrong. People are free to believe in what they want and make their own choices. That's what makes a country free, rather than a fascist police state.

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    19. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how it's ok to trash that "fat stalker MALE" - but not talk about unwanted fat females. Fuck sjw's and current pc bullshit.

    20. Re: Please help me understand by diakka · · Score: 1

      I think you should marry an overweight black single mother in her 40s with a charming personality to set a good example and show the world just how just and not racist you are.

      For me, I stay in shape because that is a habit I have been able to forge due to my perseverance and quality of character. When I choose a woman to be with, I will choose a woman who represents similar values, one of which is not being a lazy entitled fat slob who thinks they are entitled to a partner who is not fat, lazy or entitled.

      Sure, tolerance for the flaws of others is important in a relationship, but if you're unable to maintain a functional relationship with anyone, then it's probably because you had more tolerance for your own flaws than the flaws of your potential dating partners.

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    21. Re:Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Feminists are not against seeing the female body. Quite the opposite in fact. What they are against is the fetishizing of it. For example, men can walk around topless but women can't, because women's breasts are fetishized in western society. That's not a natural thing, there are societies where it isn't the case.

      The goal of these images is to show that larger bodies can be attractive, or at least not disgusting. The fat shaming web sties like to pick the worst photos they can find to make their point, so these people are picking the best ones to make the counter argument.

      I'm not convinced myself, but the point is that it has nothing to do with prudishness over the female body. That's more of an an anti-feminist thing, who think that women should be reserved and not "slutty" by displaying their bodies.

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    22. Re: Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      I'm all for individual liberty and freedom to decide what you like. I'm just exercising my right to free speech to criticise people who decide they could *never* date a black person. I can't see any possible line of reasoning or emotion that isn't some kind of revulsion at dark skin that could lead to that, but please do correct me if I have missed something.

      Freedom to make choices is not freedom from consequences, and people should be prepared to defend their choices. I mean, that's the basis of most comments here, criticising people's choice to be fat and put on a bikini.

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    23. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thick lips and huge flat noses.

    24. Re:Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'fraid not, Sir. That's *not* what's being discussed here. What *is* being discussed is the right of someone to publish images and the right of the platform to determine what is acceptable and what isn't. Its not about whether you understand or like the message.

    25. Re: Please help me understand by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, it is completely impossible for a male to control whether or not he has an erection and thus can even have intercourse. It truly is an involuntary function, much like your heartbeat.

      I'm a man, and I can control whether I want to have an erection just fine, which puts a bit of a dent in your claim, I think. I suppose it is a comfortable excuse for not trying to control you behaviour, claiming that you have "no control", but that is all it is. I think the truth is that it is all too easy to persuade some men that they want to have sex - but somewhere along the line, there is a voluntary act: you accept that you want to.

    26. Re: Please help me understand by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Also, there is something wrong with not ever wanting to date a black person. What possible reason could there be other than racism? Black people have all body types, all personality types... if it's just skin colour, that's terrible.

      I'd say it becomes racism when you start telling other people not to date a (whatever colour) person. If you don't want to personally for whatever reason then that's just you.

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    27. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Viagra corrects a physiological deficiency that prevents the 'on-demand' erection from functioning properly, similarly to drugs that correct cardiac problems.

    28. Re: Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think it depends what "whatever reason" is. While it might be fairly harmless by itself, it still fits the definition of racism for most possible reasons. I'm open to suggestions for non-racist ones though.

      Having said that, this argument is largely irrelevant, since people who really would never date someone from a certain race tend not to keep their opinions to themselves.

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    29. Re:Please help me understand by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      because women's breasts are fetishized in western society. That's not a natural thing, there are societies where it isn't the case.

      Can you name one large scale non-western society that doesn't? Western cultures are over-all the most open about topless women but that doesn't mean it is not sexual. Women's breast are a sexual signifier; trying to deny it doesn't make it stop being so. Clothes in general are "not natural" but somehow I doubt you're advocating men should be running around with their wangs out.

    30. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just exercising my right to free speech to criticise people who decide they could *never* date a black person.

      No, you are not criticizing people. You are criticizing an idea (e.g the idea of somebody never dating a black person). You generalize how anyone who holds such an idea (of never dating a black person) must be doing it out of some kind of revulsion or racism. Without any evidence.

      Read again: you are generalizing an entire group of people as bad simply because they hold ideas you don't like.

      That is not free speech. That is hate speech. It's no different than saying "well if you espouse the ideas of feminism, you must be an SJW feminazi!"

      I can't see any possible line of reasoning or emotion

      You can't see != it's not there

      Again, you're espousing the same hate speech as those you criticize. Typical MRA: "well I can't see any possible reason why SJWs support feminism other than them being bitter and resentful of men!"

      please do correct me if I have missed something.

      What you're missing is that the world is not a false dichotomy. The lack of attraction to one skin color does not mean you feel repulsion to it. You're using the same MRA logic that supporting feminism must mean you somehow "hate" men.

      Freedom to make choices is not freedom from consequences

      No freedom from consequences doesn't mean any and all consequences are justified.

      What's it to you that somebody made the choice to not go out with black people? You are not entitled to going out with that person. Nobody is entitled to go out with anybody else, regardless of race, skin color, gender, etc. That's what feminism is about: men are not entitled to go out with (read: have sex with) women. Women are likewise not entitled to going out with men, or men finding them attractive.

      Before asking other people to defend their choices, defend your own choice to criticize them on their choice. What standing do you have to dish out consequences? He hasn't harmed you in any way. He might have offended you with his ideas, but you do not have a right to not be offended.

      I mean, that's the basis of most comments here, criticising people's choice to be fat and put on a bikini.

      Not true. Most people have no problem with people's choice to be fat or put on a bikini. They are just defending their own choice to not find it attractive.

      What your wear and how you treat your body is your choice. What I find attractive is MY choice.

      You want to tell me that my choice is based on racism and hate? Then I'll tell you what your choices are based on, just like how the MRAs do it.

      And yes, it's funny how MRAs often behave just like the SJWs they criticize. Shakespeare said it best: the villainy you teach me, I will execute. And it shall go hard, but I will better the instruction.

    31. Re: Please help me understand by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Having said that, this argument is largely irrelevant, since people who really would never date someone from a certain race tend not to keep their opinions to themselves.

      Good point, well made.

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    32. Re:Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Women's breast are a sexual signifier"

      Because our culture(s) have made it so. Look at all the indigenous aboriginal people in all the various tribes around the world, most of which don't wear any clothes except loincloths. Breasts to them are literally just a baby-feeding appendage, and they don't understand why outsiders feel the need to cover up. Just because western civilization has adopted a double-standard about breasts, or sexualized them, does not make it fair or equitable or natural or right.

    33. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget the sex, fivr minutes isn't too bad waste of time

    34. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent reply

    35. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beasts to them are sexual just like hip size, etc. It's an evolutionary adaption to be sexually attracted to certain physical traits in a partner. Saying beasts are some arbitrary fetishes is just plain wrong. And in any large society women cover their chest in public, including African societies.

    36. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      No, you only think you can, but in reality you can't. That entire function is part of your autonomic nervous system.

    37. Re:Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's just an indication of how far western, really Victorian/Christian prudishness has spread. For example, 150 years ago it was normal for men and women to bathe together at public baths. Then they decided to "modernize" by adopting some western habits, like wearing suits and segregating genders when nudity is involved.

      Parts of southern Europe are better, where toplessness on beaches is normal and not controversial. South America too, despite there being quite a lot of Christians is less bothered by breasts. And once you get into the Amazon or to more remote African tribes, no-one cares except for the missionaries.

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    38. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rejecting someone based on their race is the definition of racism.

      Its fine if you never been attracted to a black person, but to say flat out that you would *never* date a black person is racist.

      Although, I did like how you tried to turn it around and make people who call out racism for what it is the bad guys. Pure class right there.

    39. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No problem with not wanting to date a 40 year old overweight single mother. Those are life choices that she needs to bear the consequences of.

      However, if you would potentially date a white, overweight, 40 year old single mother, but never black, overweight, 40 year old single mother, then you are racist.

    40. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      insulting people is worse than racism

    41. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that logic. Someone who won't date all genders is sexist.

    42. Re: Please help me understand by egatok · · Score: 1

      racÂism/ËrÄËOEsizÉ(TM)m/ noun the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. pretty sure that you're using the wrong word here because attraction isn't tied with racism however similar it may sound. if they had said, that "being Black is bad for human genetics" or that they "could not stand to have to drink at the same water fountain"... that's racist.

    43. Re:Please help me understand by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      So no, you can't name any large scale non-western societies. Why didn't you just say that?

      And once you get into the Amazon or to more remote African tribes, no-one cares except for the missionaries.

      So you agree that men should let their knobs fly free? Women's breasts are sexual. You can only argue otherwise from complete ignorance. And it would seem that large societies tend to prefer people to cover up their sexual organs under most circumstances. The why on that would be an interesting discussion. It likely has to do with reducing competition and increasing cohesion because of that blah blah blah. That preference existing is, however, a fact. And it is not something uniquely from the West unless you count pretty much anything east of Europe to be the West. But then you'd just be an idiot.

    44. Re: Please help me understand by Kelsen · · Score: 0

      "You miss the point about attraction to another race or gender. Lack of physical attraction because that individual just doesn't ring your bell, okay, but when it crosses into revision about homosexuality or interracial relationships or whatever then it's a problem."

      Who is it a problem for?


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    45. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about hair color preferences?

    46. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Nipple contrast is important to some people.

    47. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think OP was just using a bit of hyperbole. I don't think he meant "never, because she's black", I think he meant he couldn't see himself dating a black girl because he hasn't yet met one he was attracted to. That's what I got out of it anyway. It's not racist if you don't find certain types of people attractive. Racist would be more along the lines of, "she's attractive, but I wouldn't date her because she's black"

    48. Re:Please help me understand by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      What is the sorority girl mating call? I'm soooo drunk.

      What is the big fat sorority girl mating call? I SAID I WAS DRUNK!

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    49. Re: Please help me understand by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      if you could have an erection on demand, then nobody would ever buy Viagra.

      You seem to be starting with the fact that a bodily function can be disabled by various medical conditions, and concluding that said bodily function is involuntary. I know a guy who can't wiggle all his toes (nerve damage during cancer surgery); does that mean that toe-wiggling is an involuntary function?

      In fact, lots of guys can get an erection by thinking appropriate (inappropriate?) thoughts, and can think other things to lose one.

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    50. Re: Please help me understand by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      The way you "control" your erection is to think sexy thoughts or think unsexy thoughts (and good luck trying to do the latter if Scarlett Johansson is in front of you). You're not directly controlling it; as the GP says you're indirectly controlling it.

    51. Re:Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Personally I wouldn't be bothered by seeing a guy's dick, but I think there is a difference. Women's breasts have utility, such as feeding children, that most people seem to agree should be available in public spaces. For sanitary reasons the same is not true of genitals.

      It's also a question of equality. You could rightly point it that men's chests are sexy, that buttocks are sexy, that legs are sexy, that hips are sexy... but for the most part the same standards apply to both genders, except for breasts.

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    52. Re:Please help me understand by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of cultures, past and present, that do not require covering the female breast. I'm not sure how large-scale they were or are. I'm also not familiar with all that many cultures.

      Boobs aren't inherently sexual. They're secondary sexual characteristics, but so is facial hair, and I was never asked to cover up my mustache when I had it (or told it was sexy, actually).

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    53. Re:Please help me understand by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      It is almost as though there is a sexually dimorphic and evolutionary difference between male breats and female breasts. I wonder if anyone has ever looked into that?

    54. Re: Please help me understand by SirLordGodfrey · · Score: 1

      You know there are black people that say the same in regards to white people, or asians, or middle easterners...

      It's common for all ethnicities and races on the planet, but if you spend a lot of time around people that are not like you, that can change over time.

      It's a similar thing for when someone says "all X people look the same to me" - it is because they haven't spent much time living around or interacting with people of that ethnicity/race.

      And not everyone gets the chance to live in a cosmopolitanistic society, though many more live in a multicultural one with enclaves of different groups of people living together and almost never interacting with people of other backgrounds.

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    55. Re: Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You know there are black people that say the same in regards to white people, or asians, or middle easterners...

      You know black people can also be racist too, right?

      It's a similar thing for when someone says "all X people look the same to me" - it is because they haven't spent much time living around or interacting with people of that ethnicity/race.

      Sure, that's a thing, but it doesn't excuse "I would never ever date an person".

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    56. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rejecting someone based on their race is the definition of racism.

      No, it isn't. Racism is stereotyping (usually negatively) people based on race.

      No stereotype is being applied here. Not dating somebody isn't to think there's something inherently bad or inferior about them.

      Furthermore, the criteria isn't even "race" (there's only one race - the human race). It's skin color. Multiple ethnicity share a similar skin color. "White" is all sorts of European and American. "Yellow" is all sorts of Asian. "Black" is North American, South American, and African.

      Its fine if you never been attracted to a black person, but to say flat out that you would *never* date a black person is racist.

      No it isn't. Some people know what they like and are confident enough to say what they will *never* find attractive.

      Although, I did like how you tried to turn it around and make people who call out racism for what it is the bad guys.

      Glad you enjoy it. Do you have a rebuttal? No? Ok then.

    57. Re:Please help me understand by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      Beards and breasts are not the same despite sharing many common letters- got it. More seriously: just because two things are both secondary sexual characteristics does not mean they are the same in any other aspect. If many to most large cultures consider something sexual there is likely a reason for it.

    58. Re:Please help me understand by countach · · Score: 1

      There was a study which showed that women who tick the box of being drinkers or big drinkers get a massive amount more contacts than other women. I guess the guys are looking for a woman who will drink and put out (or pass out?), so the women cater for the demand.

    59. Re:Please help me understand by countach · · Score: 1

      So next time a man cat calls a woman saying "show us your tits", he should be praised as a feminist who is merely trying to de-fetishize the female form by making us accustomed to open displays of breasts.

      Nice!

    60. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like you've been playing World of Warcraft too much. What MMO games call "race" is what is known in the real world as "species". Humans are all one species. Race is basically shorthand for a common set of associated characteristics resulting from isolated evolution of groups of individuals of the same species (i.e., distinct and self-similar phenotypes). And humans definitely aren't all "just one race". Global travel has diluted (and will continue to dilute) the distinction between different phenotypes, but if you can't tell the difference between an average pygmy and an average dinka (or a pygmy and a swede, or a swede and an australian aborigine, etc.), there is something wrong with your eyes.

      TL;DR: race != species

    61. Re: Please help me understand by jandersen · · Score: 1

      The way you "control" your erection is to think sexy thoughts or think unsexy thoughts (and good luck trying to do the latter if Scarlett Johansson is in front of you). You're not directly controlling it; as the GP says you're indirectly controlling it.

      Well, where I come from, control is control: You make a conscious decision and cause something to happen. There is no sharp separation between 'conscious' and 'unconscious' - or between autonomic or somatic, for that matter. Even the functions under conscious control go through indirect routes, so it is only a matter of degree. And control is control, however indirect.

    62. Re:Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the double standards have long bothered me here, there has been a concerted effort to ban pictures of girls who are skinny because it's apparently unhealthy and unrealistic to expect them to be like that, and yet here we are with the same sorts of feminist groups that push the former trying to push the idea that being morbidly obese is somehow healthy and realistic.

      Sorry, but people come in all shapes and sizes, becoming morbidly obese should be considered as undesirable and unhealthy as becoming anorexic and sickly thin. It's not reasonable to expect all women to eat themselves to the size of this person anymore than it is to expect them all to starve themselves thin. If you're going to ban anorexic models on health grounds, which Facebook does, under pressure from groups like this, then groups like this must accept that the same is true of obese models because obesity actually kills far more people than anorexia.

      Frankly, if I'm being blunt, it strikes me as a bunch of jealous lazy fat people rather than doing something about their problem, trying to change the rules of the game instead.

    63. Re: Please help me understand by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      " if it's just skin colour, that's terrible."

      Huh? How is it different than hair or eye color?

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    64. Re: Please help me understand by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      "it's possible to just not like anything but light skin, but in practice it's almost always just racism."

      Not true. I'm caucasian and mostly date black women, asians and latinas. I don't care much for white girls. Does that make me racist?

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    65. Re: Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      There is some historical context difference I suppose, but those are pretty bad too. Saying "I'd never date someone with ginger hair" doesn't have quite the same historical context of mixed race marriages being illegal and shunned, but it's not exactly a ringing endorsement of your great personality and maturity that you can't see past it either. I mean, if you met someone who was great in every way except you didn't like their eye colour, you would be kinda crazy not to give them a try, right?

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    66. Re: Please help me understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It depends on your reason for not liking white girls. If it's some white supremacy thing of treating non-whites as disposable sex objects while you wait for your pure, virgin white wife to come along then it's racist, but if it's just that you haven't met any you like yet but wouldn't be at all prejudiced if you did then it's not racist.

      Reasons and intent matter.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    67. Re:Please help me understand by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Seriously, I'm not an anthropologist, so I can't speak to a lot of cultures, and I don't know whether covering something means it has to be sexual. I can find large cultures where it is or was bad for a woman to let her hair be seen in public, but I don't think that's inherently sexual.

      There have been a lot of cultures where bare breasts were fine, although I don't know how large they were or are. I don't know how strict the covering rules are over cultures, and I do know that some cultures are presented as having no bare boobs despite routinely baring them.

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    68. Re: Please help me understand by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      Sure, even if I prefer some types, I wouldn't kick one out of bed because of eye or hair color...

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    69. Re: Please help me understand by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      Wow. Kinda harsh, I like you :)

      I'm just not attracted as much to white women, but if I meet the right person I won't even care about skin color or hair color or anything else.

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    70. Re: Please help me understand by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I don't care what video games think about the issue. The term "race" came about because in the 19th century, scientists believed that there was a big biological distinction between what they termed white, black, brown, yellow, and red people. I'll let you figure out which those correspond to. However modern science has found that to not be the case; there actually isn't a significant enough difference between us for different races to be called a subspecies (i.e. how a dog is a subspecies of a wolf.)

    71. Re: Please help me understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I first read that as impossible to. I was thinking someone hasn't heard of being tied down while pegging or BJ. XD

  32. Why by aoism · · Score: 2

    Why is this 'news for nerds' ? It's SJW nonsense. Keep it on Tumblr please.

    1. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this 'news for nerds' ? It's SJW nonsense.

      There is your answer.

  33. Delicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Instead, we recommend using an image of a relevant activity, such as running or riding a bike"

    The fat fuck probably can't do either.

    1. Re:Delicious by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      "Instead, we recommend using an image of a relevant activity, such as running or riding a bike"

      The fat fuck probably can't do either.

      Running for a fat person is a quick way to blow out your knees. You don't want to be hobbling around like those skinny guys who get replacement knee surgery because they play basketball to aggressively. Jogging in the swimming pool is a better idea. When I rode my bike 20 miles a day to get to a restaurant job in a different city for three years, my average wait during that time was 325 pounds.

  34. Re:Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fatt girls r nown as 'big beautiful women' 4 a resun, tehy at lest have big tits. fatt guys r nown as 'fat fucks' 4 a reason, tehy have small dicks and if tehy where a fat fuck at puberty then tehy will always have small dicks throughout life. girls hate small dicks cuz small dick mean beta or omega fuck, or girly boy. girls luv big cocks cuz big cocks mean strng, alpha male, or a man. u must be a fat fuck w/ a small dick, no job so u must b n omega loser fuck, teh most repulsive of all.

  35. Slippery slope by twotacocombo · · Score: 1

    Would you want to see advertisements that included bikini girls with hairy moles, cleft palates, and lobster claw hands? How about one that's so fat she's starting to become one with the fabric of the sofa she's lived on for the past 3 years. Why not? You can be a quarter-tonner and still be healthy, all women are beautiful, right? At what point does Facebook get to state that they are not obligated to accept every ad, and some of these images are driving off more people than they're bringing in? They are a business, after all. This isn't fat shaming, or whatever the fuck guilt-laden term you want to call it, these are images people find to be unappealing and generally don't want to see. I'd rather watch that Sarah McLachlan commercial with the dogs than look at this woman in a bikini. I'm fine with her believing that she looks good, but a lot of us don't agree and don't want to see it. Nobody would want to see my hairy ass walking around in a bikini either, and I totally respect their wishes.

    1. Re:Slippery slope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you want to see advertisements

      Erm, no.

      Thus the rest of your post is irrelevant.

  36. The denial is strong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have enough muscle from having to move all that fat around every day. It's why fat people usually have monster calves.

    If you were comfortable, you wouldn't feel the need to post about your diet or body type multiple times.

  37. So not being ok is reason to ban? by fuzzyf · · Score: 1

    So it's ok for anyone to ban/censor everything that is not ok? Really?

    1. Re:So not being ok is reason to ban? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's ok for anyone to ban/censor everything that is not ok? Really?

      It's an advert on one companies social network site... it's not about free speech, it's about misleading people in advertising and a company having standards - obese people can post pictures of themselves if they want, and they can even spout utter shit about obesity being "healthy" in their twitterbookblog-whatever, but people can't lie about obesity being "healthy" in advertising when there is overwhelming scientific evidence against it, because that's misleading.

      As someone who believes in free speech and equality I find it very annoying when people think free speech === right to force others to do or think what you want and equality === denial... and yet in our ever more PC world these misconceptions seem to be widespread.

    2. Re:So not being ok is reason to ban? by fuzzyf · · Score: 1

      I didn't mention free speech.
      And the ad didn't state that this is a healthy individual.


      If they ban ads based on what is good for you, or anything that could be dangerous then the ad business would look very different.

  38. *sigh* Lucy Lawless *sigh* by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    If she can't toss me over her shoulder and carry me away she's not big enough.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:*sigh* Lucy Lawless *sigh* by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      My friend got his picture taken with some UFC fighters when he went to see them fight and they were so tiny compared to him. Lucy is only like 5' 10".

    2. Re:*sigh* Lucy Lawless *sigh* by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Only? That's pretty big for a woman - slightly taller than me.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:*sigh* Lucy Lawless *sigh* by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I'm 5' 11" she might be able to carry me off but I'm certain I could bench press her with out breaking a sweat. I some how always end with women my height or taller.

  39. I'm so sorry... by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a free ride when you've already paid

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:I'm so sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it "a free ride when you're already late"?

    2. Re: I'm so sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you own ten thousand spoons...

    3. Re:I'm so sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes no sense. If you paid, your ride inherently was not free. There's no irony in there.

    4. Re:I'm so sorry... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It makes sense. You just bought a train/bus ticket, and you meet a friend at the station who's going to drive there.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  40. No Fat Chicks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook invented lawyer speak for the old No Fat Chicks tshirt

  41. They shouldn't be banning her ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should be directing her to appropriate medical attention, because she's morbidly obese and in dire need of intervention.

    1. Re:They shouldn't be banning her ... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      They should be directing her to appropriate medical attention, because she's morbidly obese and in dire need of intervention.

      What would that be exactly? I was literally the only fat kid at school. School officials ordered my parents to take me to the doctor and get blood tests. Three years of repeated blood tests failed to find anything wrong with me. Some people are just big that the doctors can't do anything.

  42. eye of the beholder by fche · · Score: 1

    Not to mince words, yes, the image is rather undesirable.

    1. Re:eye of the beholder by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      She should be on the Women of Walmart website.

  43. Well... To be fair. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was basically encouraging obesity. Sure you can be happy while being really fat, but that's still not healthy. That kind of advertising shouldn't be allowed. I get "plus size", that's fine, but the woman in that picture was way past "plus size" and was into "plus plus plus plus size" territory, most likely weighting in the 400lb or above. This is unhealthy and sends the wrong message to the youth saying that "it's ok to be really fat if you're happy with it". But really, are they really happy? Wouldn't they be happier if they could have a ton more choice in terms of clothing, fit in a single seat instead of taking 2 while on a airplane, be able to actually move around without feeling exhausted after 5 minutes of walking... Not to mention all the health issues that come up with being fat.

  44. Ouch, my eyes, I think Facebook was right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Post title says it all.

  45. LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And so is political correctness.

  46. Other body types? Models etc.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, does this mean that Facebook will now allow posting pictures of other body types, presumably "sexy" (for various values of 'sexy') models etc.? Given the summary & response from FB I'm given to believe the point is that they don't want you posting pictures of 'O, all those icky, toned/sexy bodies out there as they promote a bad body image' (I don't really know because I don't use FB all that much)...so if they don't allow those but have now caved to a feminist group promoting 'plus size' (read 'overweight') models than it is blatant discrimination to not allow posting bikini clad models...of course it won't surprise me in the least if/when they demonstrate a double-standard here.

  47. ITT: /.FPH by Pfhorrest · · Score: 0

    In this thread: Slashdot's equivalent of FatPeopleHate get to puke their bile all over the site.

    Yet another fucking flamebait article. We really need the ability to mod whole articles, not just comments.

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    "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
  48. Just Facebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That website ain't the only thing that lady's too fat for...

  49. The internet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Social networking and interacting over the internet with people was the dumbest move humanity did. It was different 20 years ago.

  50. More cushin' for the pushin', Mark! by JesseEnjaian · · Score: 1

    hahaha big, beautiful women get love too <3 True story: I used to work with the woman who fought her case to the Supreme Court of California and won, making it illegal in California to discriminate against someone based upon their weight when their obesity problem is due to an underlying medical problem for employment purposes (http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1429&context=californialawreview). I think it's incredibly unfair to simply write off their weight problem as a lack of work ethic or hedonistic desire for food regardless of its health impact (which, actually, aren't that bad https://www.nih.gov/news-event... in the grand scheme of things -- smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, etc I'm sure are far worse off). https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  51. News for Nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't realize News for Nerds meant posting tabloids that happen to involve websites.

  52. Fat acceptance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBd9JcpoNi4

  53. Not gonna happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead, we recommend using an image of a relevant activity, such as running or riding a bike.

    Crushing a bike, maybe.

    1. Re:Not gonna happen by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      She could borrow Desperate Dan's.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  54. whale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    first time I ve seen that... hopefully never to see that naked.. they should sell her off to Japanese and save couple of whales in the process.
    Seriously, fat ( morbidly fat in her case ) is just sick and nobody should be made feeling good about that.

  55. Re:Repulsive is still Repulsive regardless of "spi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny how the big strong "alpha" types tend to be on the bottom of the totem pole in business and society. You say "yes sir" to your "omega" boss when he commands you to wash his car.

  56. Dead at 55 by PJ6 · · Score: 1

    Forget beauty, whatever you or the next person thinks it is. Being that obese means that her children, if she has any, will be left without a mother rather early.

    It's like smoking, or free-solo climbing. Sure, you can do it, it's a free country. But if you have people that love you and don't want you to die young, it's really not OK.

  57. You just killed your own argument. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they're banning conservatives for saying they ban conservatives, then they can't have been banned, could they? Therefore it's not "Conservatives are banned" at all. It's that some people were banned for what they said, and other conservatives complained about it and were banned for being whinging little bitches.

  58. Perhaps for a few it's unavoidable being obese... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but for most everyone else, it's nothing more than laziness, poor diet, and ignorance.

    If a person is large due to conditions beyond their control is one thing, but to accept as "normal" gross obesity is pushing it a bit too far.

    It would also help if the food industry didn't stuff every fucking item in the market full of high fructose corn syrup or some artificial sweetner crap.

  59. 1984 by brunnegd · · Score: 1

    FB is rapidly becoming the bad guys from the novel 1984.

  60. Morbid Obesity by EricTheO · · Score: 0

    Morbid Obesity should not be depicted as an acceptable condition any more than Anorexia.

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  61. Got it wrong by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

    Facebook said that its team scans millions of ad images every week, and sometimes understandably misses out on a few.

    That response is BS, because facebook took the time to clarify their stance. They didn't miss anything, they just got it wrong.

    Facebook: It's not a huge issue here, so just admit your prejudice.

  62. It's not about attraction by p0larity · · Score: 1

    Showing different body types baring skin doesn't mean that the issue is attraction.

    The issue is that fat women (and men!) get a lot of shit that they don't deserve from other people imposing their "concern" on them.

    The issue might be about FEELING attractive because as human beings that's important.

    The issue is that it's their body and they should be allowed to dress as they see fit. If you think it's obscene, that's your issue. You don't have to like it, but you also don't have any right to harass them over it.