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Suicide Squad Fans Petition To Shut Down Rotten Tomatoes Over Negative Reviews (variety.com)
The much-anticipated movie Suicide Squad has largely failed to impress film critics and normal people alike. People are leaving the theaters disappointed, with a firm belief that DC Universe has let them down again. Vanity Fair goes as far as saying, "Suicide Squad isn't even the good kind of bad," adding that "I'd have to imagine that most fans of Harley Quinn -- male, female, gay, straight -- will be disappointed." The ratings are super low at IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes as well. Amid these reviews, the fans of the film have launched a Change.org petition with the intent of shutting down film review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes. Variety adds: Abdullah Coldwater, the DC Comics fan who drafted the petition, accused the site of giving "unjust bad reviews" that "affects people's opinion even if it's a really great [movie]." He added, "Critics always give The DC Extended Universe movies unjust bad reviews." The petition has received over 13,000 signatures as of this post. "Suicide Squad," which stars Will Smith, Jared Leto and Margot Robbie and is one of the most highly-anticipated movies of the summer, currently has an approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes of 34 percent. In comparison recent critical disgrace "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" settled at 27 percent on 344 critiques, whereas Marvel's "Captain America: Civil War" garnered a laudatory 90 percent with 320 critics chiming in.
Wah!
Ghostbusters 2016 is still certified fresh?
Get a life people....
Also... change.org was neat for a while... but I just don't want to be depressed all day every day so I took myself off the mailing list..
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Do these idiots even remotely understand how Rotten Tomatoes works? All they do is aggregate critics' reviews. They don't review the movie themselves.
The Trump Way: you don't like something, get enough people chanting "lock 'em up! LOCK 'EM UP!".
Too much lynch mob sh*t floating around, it all started with the Tea Party and has now poisoned half of the nation...
Why not use the DMCA to shut it down? As the law is poorly written they may be able to pull that off.
Of all the reasons to want to close a movie review aggregator, the reviews for Suicide Squad are the greatest sin the site has committed? Do these people even understand how an aggregator works? This can't be "real," this is an obvious Internet prank. This is just bad comedy.
Batman v. Superman is the worst movie in the DC universe. Everyone involved was awful. The script, the screenplay, the line delivery. Gal Gadot did nothing but furrow her brow for two hours. Eisenberg spent 10 minutes saying ding-ding-ding-ding-ding. DC films and TV are pretty garbage.
The site owners? The police?
Do the needful, change "believe" to "belief".
I have an idea, how about we instead make a change.org petition to have The DC Extended Universe movies be better written? That would solve TWO problems!
When I first saw the movie trailer I was looking forward to a sin city type of darkness that could only be done in an R-rated movie. I found out it was PG? It makes me not want to go see it right there.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
If you're offended by an opinion I would suggest you learn the subtle art of "not caring".
- If you like the movie then post your own review - tell us critically why you like it, what parts and which characters stand out.
- If you don't like the movie then post your own review - tell us critically what's wrong with it.
- If you don't want to post a review then don't. It's not a big deal, really.
There's no such thing as an "unjust review". Maybe you don't like the reviewers? Maybe these particular reviewers have different tastes?
Find reviewers that like the things that you like, that way you'll discover more things that you might like.
Just, for the love of god stop trying to mute and censor reviewers just because they're not "exactly like you".
From what I understand Deadpool was created without input from studio executives, Suicide Squad was just the opposite and was actually recut to try and copy Deadpool humor. Maybe getting rid of the committees that make so many bad movies will bring us more entertainment.
I thought groupthink was limited to /. and reddit but I see it is alive and well in new areas now:
Uh, No, "this movie sucks" is an opinion. You don't have to like it, or even agree with it, but trying to censor opinions you don't disagree just because it hurts your bottom line is just plain stupid. We already have the legal right to "voice" our opinion as long as it isn't slander nor libel.
As they say, Everyone is a critic.
Which ironically has this gem:
Harrison's Postulate: "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
We deserve to have a reality show president.
Who exactly are they petitioning? Are they asking RottenTomatoes to voluntarily shutdown? Are they asking for the government or some third party to step in and have RottenTomatoes shuttered? I'm a DC fan myself and am disappointed by the reception of their most recent movies (I'll go to my grave believing BvS is a better film than Civil War), but this is dunderheaded. It's giving DC fans a bad name, in the same way that Trump supporters are giving uneducated white men a bad name.
He should possibly look into the difference between the word affect and effect. He should also understand that rottentomatoes.com, though unfair in many of their reviews does not work the way he thinks it works. It actually aggregates several of the reviews from various external sites into one presented site. The petition should be against the marketing of the percentage number on the site that so many companies inappropriately use as a critic rating.
It's PG-13, it's not going to be a diamond in the rough. It's probably going to be an OK movie as all PG-13 movies are. Just look at Deadpool, R rated, was AWESOME! X-Men movies, PG-13, were meh.
Thank you, mamby pamby p@ssy little fans of this movie, for wanting to delete the earth just because someone exercised their free speech.
Most people aren't pitiful enough give a shit about Marvel vs DC extendid so as to resort to favoritism in their reviews
so get over it already. DC just has a lousy track records of making a universe of films with continuity that are, you know, well-scripted and fun to watch.
I also thought the new Star Trek was mediocre at best. I was looking for some of the wonder and excitement that the reboot brought to the screen (minus lens flare) and I got wonder alright -- I wandered into the movie and then I wandered out when it was over. No excitement for the villain, the plot overall, but there were at least a couple of funny moments.
Dream as if you'll live forever.
Live as if you'll die tomorrow.
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I thought groupthink was limited to /.
Groupthink is the human condition.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
But thanks for playing, son. Here, have a cookie...
My teenage daughter has been wanting to see this for a while now, so I'm pretty sure I'll be going at some point soon. The previews looked pretty good to me, to I'm fine with going. I have a feeling this will be one of those movies that the critics are going to blast, but the public will like. I just looked at IMDB and did check a couple of the reviews. They're were at least a couple (all the ones I read)) that it appears have seen the film and rated it fairly high. So the 8.3 seems reasonable. It certainly wouldn't be the first time the critics got it wrong, if that's the case.
against brain damaged change.org petitions. Quite depressing to think how loads of far more pertinent petitions never gathered 13,000 signatures...
This is a serious question. It seems like they consistently do more harm then good to the box-office of movies in modern times, serving only to spread early negativity and hamper the opening weekend turnout. I understand that once upon a time the film industry needed these curated professionals to have early access to the film to drum up interest and get press in printed media, but in today's world of twitter feeds and social media, I honestly think the film industry would be better served to leave them out of the loop entirely and let the actual target fanbase serve as a first wave of hype-building response. Especially in the case of comic book movies, where you can be fairly sure of a large turnout opening week that is primarily fans already. I, like so many, will go see it regardless, because Im a fan of the existing body of work and want to see for myself how it translates. Good review popping up before opening weekend is in no way going to change that, but a bunch of bad reviews might. It's loose/loose for the studio.
Common Sense isn't as Common as people think...
Protester fanbois protest site that aggregates reviews, screaming "Stop saying it's bad".
Net effect: An even larger audience reading articles about the petition realize it's a bad movie and don't go.
Way go to! /tumbsup
Warning: Teh poster of this messaeg is lysdexic
Change.org, WTF?? The usual way to prevent comic book movies getting bad reviews is to send the reviewers death threats.
SS is a hot mess.
Harley Quinn is not golden age DC. And her shorts are too short. It's disgusting objectification.
DC just wants a giant hit like Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool, why are you haeting on them for trying to jump on the bandwagon?!!
Also, it doesn't matter that the Enterprise can beat a Imperial Star Destroyer, Defiant would mop the floor with both of them.
Ginger? Maryanne? There's a third option, you know.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"... which stars Will Smith"
And yet people are shocked at the bad reviews. At this point if you see Will Smith in a film, you should proceed carefully.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
My understanding (from a couple of people I know who were involved with the movie) was that the first pass (ie at the end of filming in July of 201) of the movie was disappointing, but serviceable (ie make its money back in the theatres and turn a profit on streaming and DVDs). Test audiences' biggest problem was that they didn't know many of the various minor villains (ie Killer Croc, Deadshot and Captain Boomerang) and were confused by Harley Quinn because in the cartoons, she has a definite costume and doesn't use a baseball bat.
Then the trailer was created which made it seem like a *much* different movie than it actually was. The trailer, (see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...) generated a lot of buzz due to the energy the characters gave off which wasn't in the original film. The Warner suits realized that there was a disconnect between the trailer and reality, so early last fall, they ordered a script update with reshoots so that the movie would better match the trailer.
The script changes were complete and new filming was finishing up in Vancouver when Deadpool came out and did not affect the final version of the film. It may have confirmed the Warner suits' that they were on the right track, but Deadpool didn't force the decision one way or another. I was told in December that Warner had managed to turn a fair movie that avid comic book readers will like into a "shitty" one that wouldn't work for anybody with the script and filming changes.
The DC Universe movie problems go a lot deeper than trying to copy Deadpool or Avengers movies - it basically comes from a lack of central planning that Marvel/Disney/Sony have in spades as well as difficulty in listening to the casual movie goer.
One of the friends, who's a PA on Suicide Squad, said that fanboys know the characters and that's who DC/Warner tends to listen to rather than somebody off the street who has heard of Batman and Superman but can't name anybody in their rogue's gallery other than The Joker and Lex Luthor and needs an introductory movie for them and the universe, the same way Marvel does.
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> I thought groupthink was limited to /. and reddit but I see it is alive and well in new areas now:
You, uh, thought very wrong. Groupthink is everywhere. Look no further than politics to see it writ large.
Donald Trump as the Joker
Hillary as herself, Harley Quinn ton
Funny, I liked Batman and Robin, Ghostbusters 2, American Ninja, Anaconda, Kangaroo Jack, Masters of the Universe, Demolition Man, judge dredd(stallone), TMNT 1,2 1990's, ect... I doubt movie critics and rotten tomattoe have an influence over me. I will watch whatever the fuck I want regardless of the reviews.
"Wah wah wah.. mummy somebody posted an opinion on a website I don't agree with"
Wanting a website shutdown for voicing a different opinion of a film, how fucking moronic and immature can you get, they sound like all the "Beliebers" on twitter.
Maybe these whiners should get out into the real world once in a while, meet people and learn that people aren't all the same and have different likes and interests.
to have the other petitions people whipped and flogged and tossed to the curb like the movie in question.
She has waged a one woman crusade against the tide of DC hate. But even she hates Suicide Squad. If even Grace can't support it then DC has big, BIG problems.
Sure it's only 32% on RT. That's not unsalvageable. Or even that bad - I've liked movies that gotten far lower scores.
All it means is it's likely just a summer blockbuster that's enjoyable for the two hours you're there, but that's it. You're not going to get any life changing revelations, new insights, or anything else.
it's just a disposable movie that's enjoyable and forgettable. If you want to escape your dreary life for a couple of hours, it'll be perfect.
Far too many people put too much into a review - basically a 5 star review is the cinematic equivalent of literature - something everyone should see to make themselves a better person, etc. etc. etc.
But I've found that's not me. I don't want plots full of subtext and hidden symbolism. I just want an escape - give me two hours to enter a fantasy world, believe I belong there during that time, and wrap it up.
For me, the best movies typically score 3-4 stars, or even 2 stars. Leaving 1 star for the truly dreadful movies.
At 32%, it's probably watchable.
Groupthink is the human condition.
Just like the people UnknownSoldier is complaining about, it is only groupthink when he doesn't agree with it. Just like it is only unfair reviews when they don't agree with them.
Heck, even the name tells you that.
If you want sweetness and light, you're in the wrong playroom, sweetcheeks
Seeing it tonight!
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Welcome to Amerika, were the stupid censors you. - Yeah I think that sums it up... American society has been becoming more and more brain dead in the recent years. We're devolving into spoiled little children, who only listen to those they agree with and want to kick and scream when they disagree. The internet has just been making things worse, the G.I.F.T. (penny arcade) is quite appropriate to describe society at large.
I doubt he got jiggy enough to warrant anything over 35% approval. He could have made out more with his male-daughter or something on screen. The joker is now Tom Waits, so any other version will be bad. Not everyone needs T n A with no brains come on. Criminal genius or bimbo.
The movie is bad.
a petition to stop bad reviews? c'mon people ... p.c. 101 = we believe in free speech that we agree with ...
as far as "suicide squad" goes - I loved the "Batman: Assault on Arkham" animated flick. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it (my local library system has it on dvd) - very much not for the youngsters though (PG-13 all the way) ...
to be honest, I've been turned off by any film with Wil Smith in it for quite a while - so I probably wouldn't have seen it anyway (even had a chance to get a free ticket and passed). DC does straight to dvd/whatever animated films very well - and keeps releasing terrible live action movies ...
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The parent post does not know the difference between Marvel & DC Comics and claims the movie is "certified fresh" at 73%, when it is actually 32% (rotten). No, it didn't change afterwards because it becomes "certified" something only after most reviews are in so it has locked on fresh or rotten.
Jeez, informative??? More like a subtle Troll...
... or were the site creators just going for irony?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Oh the irony ...
Let's shut down change.org for being part of a Hollywood conspiracy to promote crappy movies that no one wants to see by suppressing honest reviews.
Not that another proof was needed, but this does show on pointless change.org is.
first, it was because I was emotionally scarred from watching independence day
now and as a european, I dont go because abdu, ajmed and osama could blow up the theater and thats unhealthy if you are inside
I guess its coincidence both things happened directly or indirectly because of americans, its like they hate the movies or something
I bet you do.
You are welcome on my lawn.
So we all strive for transparency and openness right??
so because a group of people dislike the review's of the pro's
now we have to quiet them forever because they are offensive to OUR taste on what a movie should be??
whats up with the constitution???
isn't there an ammendment somewhere to cover this.
If so, why was this published?
That's what this attack on the right to free speech is. Those 13,000 dipshits that signed it should be shipped off Stalinist Russia.
A Change.org petition has been submitted to force the sun to reduce its ultraviolet (UV) output so that the incidence of sunburns and skin cancers in humans will be reduced.
Already there are eleventy three trillion signatures, and no one seems to have noticed the obvious problem with the petition, namely that no one outside Rotten Tomatoes has the authority to do what they ask, and even if somehow the website WERE shut down, it wouldn't do anything to stop people reading the reviews, just force them to expend 0.0001% additional effort to find the reviews that Rotten Tomatoes used to carry.
Anybody else notice that demands to do the impossible frequently also seem to be written by obviously stupid people?
Anybody remember the online petition that circulated the internet a few years back to demand that President Obama 'lower gas prices'? As if the President sets, or has ANY power, actually, over the price of gasoline! What a bunch of fucking morons! If the President COULD do that, don't you think CARTER would have, considering?
I know, I know. "Duhhh... who is Carter?" Buncha fucktards.
It'll have a better plot, costumes, and be funny. It'll also be at least R rated which is a must for any "good" comic book movie these days.
Haha nothing new. Only easier to spot.
"I'd have to imagine that most fans of Harley Quinn -- male, female, gay, straight -- will be disappointed."
Love how you gotta specify that kind of shit these days.
How 'bout "most fans of Harley Quinn -- this involve any human being --"
Or you know, shorten it to "most fans of Harley Quinn"
You are legally not allowed to criticize food. Food felony laws - Oprah Winfrey was sued for expressing her disgust about hamburger.
Food libel laws, and ag-gag laws, gotta love them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_libel_laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag
Only if you fail to explain why it sucks in a point by point matter that can be evaluated.
Worthless 0 continuity script?
Cinematographer was blind and filmed 2 hour of parking lot footage instead of the movie happening behind him on the sound stage?
Film direction that would have embarrassed Ed Wood?
Acting that would get you kicked out of porno?
Sound track consisted of 4 angry tomcats in a dryer with a cinder block?
Adam Sandler was somehow involved?
Script was written by an Amazon tribe member, after that it was run through google translate through 17 languages before it hit the exec's desk and they decided to go with it?
Blu Ray release shows that the movie actually would have worked if they didn't cut out the 20 minutes of "scat" scenes?
Given the choice between starring in Independence Day: Regurgence or Suicide Squid, I'm wondering if Will Smith backed the wrong pony.
It's well known that the DC Universe basically is an unbelievable universe, dark, foreboding, and generally lacking in its ability to produce a truly good super hero movie. Marvel has had it's duds too (Hulk anyone, or how about the various nightmares that are Spider Man).\ but the avengers series has generally been very good movie making and at least sticks the the canon a bit better that the mess that is DC.
Thinking Will Smith would have done better doing Independence Day, and would have had an opportunity to do the 3rd install into that franchise.
Even Forrest Gump made a loss according to what the IRS and the writer were told when they came looking for money.
Hollywood accounting is "special".
it was yet another "prank" by /b/tards
>captcha: mimicked
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... by equally pathetic people in a pathetic way. Could the be more proof Suicide Squad is just another senseless money grabber from hollywood?
Bach says it all.
Don't visit the fucking site then. I didn't even know Will Smith was in it. One more reason for me to not see the movie.
Fans get very upset when you criticise the things they like, even if you clearly state that you think the thing is mostly great and enjoyable and it's just these few issues you have that stop it being perfect. And then they pile in and demand you stop criticising, claiming you are trying to censor them... It's like they lose all self awareness.
First it was video games, now comic book movies... It's getting more common, and we need to stop it.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Prevent Zack Snyder from being involved in any more DC films. He's killing the brand. DC comics generally have more nuance and shades of grey than Marvel comics, you need directors who understand that. Zack is all about jacked-up punch em ups.
There are plenty of movies that critics don't like, but people do like. Though as soon as I saw a preview for Suiside Squad I thought the Idea was stupid.
Discounting big movies, critics I find are always wrong IMO.
Wondermark, #566. Supernatural collective nouns.
How about a malevolence of Trolls?
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Kinda sad when the best DC movie since Superman II that comes to mind is the cab movie with Mr. T. :-P
Whatever next? Manual labour?
You misunderstand.
I value opposing viewpoints, even if I don't agree with them.
As Vexxed so eloquently quotes
I have a theory about why Marvel has largely been more successful than DC. I don't think it is really all the writers or the movie makers fault. I believe the fault is a factor of two things. Firstly while not total, a very large chunk of the viewers of said movies are an older audience, who for nostalgia reasons desire to see super heros of their youth. The problem with that is they are no longer kids anymore, but need to be able to still connect with the movie, that is to say that the movie needs to be more "adult" than for "kids". The second factor influences the first in that if you look at the growth of heros in DC VS Marvel over the years (say the last 20), in general many of the Marvel heros "matured", where as most of those in DC did not, other than a few examples, and some of those in weird "alternate" universes that are generally seen as not cannon (i.e. Supes in Red Son is pretty dark, but no one is going to take that as anything but an interesting spin off).
So for example DC Batman was successful more less because there was plenty of examples of him being pretty dark prior to the movie (and the type of hero he was to begin with). However many of the kiddy or silly heros have a harder time transitioning to a more adult theme. Take Green Lantern for example. At the very core, this is a pretty silly superhero. He thinks of a big mallet hammer and bonks bad guys on the head. It is hard to make that really all that relateable to an adult audience. Shazam is another example. While there was that one example of a pretty dark Shazam battling Superman, for the most part you have a hero that is a kid, who turns into a man with powers, by a wizard on command. Pretty silly and hard to translate to an adult audience. However on the Marvel side of things, take a very similar hero in Thor. In the original, it was about a old blind guy with a cane that found a hammer, who can turn into "Thor" by wielding it. Over the years, this morphed into Thor being an actual God who interacts with humanity. My personal favorite version (Ultimate I believe), is where they leave Thor's origin as somewhat ambiguous, where Thor believes he is the God of Thunder from Azguard, however much of the other Avengers think he is a mutant, or just some guy with superpowers who is a bit crazy/nuts/delusional but fights for good so they don't really press the issue too much. Another example on the other side of things is Marvel's Fantastic 4. There have been a lot of swings and misses, and terrible movies made. Again, not so much with perhaps the movies themselves (though I don't think they did themselves a lot of favors either), but the heros themselves are pretty silly, and never really matured. It is hard to take a movie like that seriously no matter how well they might have produced it (which none really were anyway).
As an extreme example It'd be like DC making a "Wonder Twins" movie and then wondering why it wasn't all that successful with an adult audience.... Then trying again however making it dark and brooding, Zan addicted to opium and having to defeat his own daemons while Jayna suffers from severe depression issues brought on by a terrible childhood... Then wondering why the audience found it ridiculous. Form of a script, shape of a movie!
All of /. thinks echo chambers are bad.
... move along.
Nothing suspicious to see here
They will gleefully call out Matt Damon for staring in a movie about the Great Wall of China, declaring it is 'yellow face' even if he is not playing an Asian (I don't know, I'm guessing). But ignore an all-black Hamilton musical or an all-female Ghostbusters. They would never ever consider saying 'white face' or 'dick face', but those would be equivalent terms.
Straight white males are free game in today's society.
I started a petition on change.org to keep that guy from being able to start petitions anymore.
https://www.change.org/p/every...