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Comey Denies Clinton Email 'Reddit' Cover-Up (politico.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Politico: The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
just get used to it. they have mastered the coverup and own everyone who could charge them.
Laws for people who are named 'Clinton' and laws for the rest of us.
[Insert pithy quote here]
If I've learned anything about the birther controversy, some people are fact resistant especially in this election when Clinton's opponent has heavily promoted multiple conspiracies.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I appreciate the lengths Comey has gone through to show the double standard justice system. He says Clinton had no intent to hide anything, he never asked her if she did. He says the administrator had no intention of doing anything wrong, and again probably didn't ask him. Comey also rewrote the law claiming Congress wanted intention to be part of the law, which they didn't include in the wording, without having asked them. He also outright ignored her lying under oath to Congress, along with all the people who lied to the FBI during the investigation. He also failed to investigate any of the bribes Clinton took while SOS, didn't even look into it to see if there might be something.
Meanwhile...
The IRS targets individuals because they don't follow the correct political views.
Peter Thiel is investigated by department of Labor because he supports Trump.
Were the tea party members asked if their intention was to break laws? Was Peter Thiel asked if he intended to be discriminatory in hiring? It doesn't matter in those cases because they are not "important" like Clinton.
My big question, what can they now do to restore confidence in the system? I actually don't have an answer to that question at this time.
...if all of this recent news isn't the reason for Reddit's "warrant canary" mysteriously disappearing from their terms of service a few months back?
No "cover-up" but national security letters being used behind the scenes to conduct an investigation entirely out of the public eye, pretty much standard operating behaviour for the FBI these days.
Either way he obviously tried to alter records that we under subpoena. This is so fucking corrupt it is unbelievable.
Will I get the same leniency and benefit of doubt if the FBI or Justice Department ever investigates me for the same or less serious crimes? (not that I'm planning any)
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Snip: "However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said."
And there's the problem; the "facts" and the law can be interpreted - some would say manipulated - in so many ways that it's a roll of the dice.
Have great power, network, influence, loads of cash; you're probably OK.
Joe Sixpack whom the state wants to take down? You're going down, with even your own defender probably telling you to take the plea bargain even if you're innocent.
Vaccines do cause autism. Trump is the only one with guts enough to say this. TRUMP 2016!
In light of recent events, the VIP email address spoken about was probably Obama's, not Clinton's.
Oh such Republican mock outrage.... where was it when George Bush was sending his emails using gwb43.com? His private email account used for official Whitehouse emails!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
"The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file,"
To do otherwise would be to admit that HIllary should be charged with a crime and that Bill mansplained it to the AG on the runway in the desert while they were talking about "grandkids".
Americans and the press are beyond stupid.
http://pastebin.com/XuJpPFni
'nuff said.
He was still actively engaged in 'covering-up', dumbass. It's a miracle the FBI can stand up straight these days:
https://jonathanturley.org/2016/09/29/104516/
Yet, absolutely fucking nothing anyone can seem to do about it.
Anyone else would be in jail.
Give immunity to people you could prosecute for leverage, but they won't talk anyways. Pure evidence of intent and corruption, but oh well.
I mean, we might as well have the North Korean dictator feeding us propaganda. We the people know it's all lies, but we can't do anything about it and our state media is just bobbing their heads saying what they're supposed to say with their talking points that get sent out every morning.
Talk about totally fucked as a country.
www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
This issue has been put to bed. The only people keeping it alive are the Republicans and Trump because that's the only way he can score points against Clinton in the polls.
But if we're going to use these emails as part of a measuring stick as to who is more trustworthy, when we tally up all lie and half truths of our major candidates - Trump and Clinton - Trump loses.
And what's sickening is that our parties have allowed such people to be the ones running for POTUS. Clinton got where is she with back room deals and Trump got where he is because of the blind irrational anger of the Republican base. And the ironic thing is that everything the Republicans hate about our government was caused by them - and only them. The last eight years of nonsense was exclusively caused by the Republicans. They have proven to be a party that is incapable of governing this nation. They are nothing but obstructionists who want everything to be their way or noway.
Fortunately, the party is mostly made up of old white people and they are rapidly becoming a minority - they're dying off.
If the US electorate would sit down and treat our Presidential election as choosing the better person we are given to lead our country instead of treating it like a professional sports game (our team vs their team), we might actually get a government that represents us.
But regardless of which "side" you're on, we the people are going to get the government that we deserve.
I call bullshit since when I read the articles about it in the beginning they quoted him asking about already sent emails and "backup" files. How could he be trying to hide the email address from recipients after the messages had already been sent? Sounds a little "gatey" to me... Just voicing me opinion
Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line
Uh, printed emails from Outlook do not contain the "actual dot-com address" in the 'From:' line, they contain the proper name of the sender. Lying piece of shit.
I've been doing this IT thing for a long time. A very long time.
I don't think there is an IT expert/admin on Slashdot who would attest that--if given the job to engineer/configure an email server for Secretary of State (much less, merely private citizen) Clinton--this server was in any way designed or implemented properly. Not for security, not for compliance, nothing.
So... am I to believe that Hillary Clinton is so woefully incapable of finding a competent IT engineer/admin? Here is ALL OF SLASHDOT. Am I to believe that? Because, if so, she's woefully incompetent for ANY governmental position; I don't believe she should be in any position of power that directly impacts me, my freedom. And anyone who supports her, at this point, in this community, given what is so obvious to see about her character and her intentions, either has to be insane or be seen as complicit in her and her "party's" power grab. It is that simple.
Scott
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
FIND and REPLACE would have hidden the dot com address. The Reddit post was definitely intended to delete the emails
No the Presidential Records Act, is from 1978 and he broke it, and where were your screams of mock outrage then? He broke the Hatch Act too, that's because he sent Whitehouse data to Karl Rove and you can't mix your campaigning and Whitehouse duties. Was there double plus outrage? No.... Republican mock outrage... shocked I am...
We get it, you have a crap candidate and you can't do anything but whine. He must have done something dumb again, so you're bleating about emails again. Oh waaa waaa waaaa,
Considering that the FBI has *already* directly said that they won't prosecute for something more obvious and worse, is ANYONE shocked by this?
Yes, a sysadmin asking generally how he can purge someone's name from emails - how could anyone /possibly/ think that had anything to do with a coverup? Clearly, you'd have to be a paranoid Republican to believe that.
-Styopa
A very thorough timeline about the whole thing:
http://www.thompsontimeline.com/the-hidden-smoking-gun-the-combetta-cover-up/
Get a cup of coffee, it's long but worth it. The timeline is non-partisan and sticks to the facts, basically it is alt-right/trump troll/conspiracy free.
Bottom line: It doesn't look good at all.
October 28, 2014: The State Department formally asks Clinton for all of her work-related emails.
December 5, 2014: She turns over 30,000 emails from her @clintonemail.com account to the State Department. Another 31,000 emails from the same account were deemed personal, and Clinton kept those. Her lawyers did the sorting, no State Department or National Archives personnel had a chance to appraise or examine the remaining 31,000.
December 2014: Shorty after turning the 30,000 emails, Clinton decides she no longer needs access to any of her emails older than 60 days. Her staff is told to change the retention policy on her server, which will lead to the deletion of all her the emails that weren't turned over to the State Department.
The FBI later recovered about 17,500 of Clinton’s “personal” emails. FBI Director James Comey has said that “thousands” were indeed work-related.
March 25, 2015 and March 31, 2015: There were two conference calls between Clinton staffers and PNR, the company managing her emails. Between those two calls, Combetta, the PNR employee managing Clinton server (and Reddit user 'Stonetear'), has an “Oh shit!” moment and remembers that he’d forgotten to make the requested retention policy change back in December 2014. He immediately deletes all of Clinton’s emails and uses BleachBit to permanently wipe them.
He later told the FBI that at the time he was aware of emails mentioning a Congressional request to preserve all of Clinton’s emails.
Sometimes in 2016: The Justice Department gives Combetta some form of legal immunity.
The FBI having Combetta take the fall for the deletions while making an immunity deal with him *could* be a particularly clever move to prevent anyone from being indicted. That part isn't clear yet.
In any circumstances, the FBI giving Combetta immunity makes no sense at all. It's the equivalent of giving a hired hitman immunity without going after the person who hired him.
Are we finally entering an era of fully homeopathic politics: where the issues are diluted until the point where there is no trace of substance and it is all 'magic water'? Where are the discussions about real problems, like the wars in the Middle East, or the several migrations crises, or the declining economy? Where are the realistic proposals for American politics over the next decade? Certainly not here; apparently it is much more interesting to groom one's personal navel fluff and gossip about the favourite celebs - in this case Clinton and Trump. So, when are we going to spend some real quality time talking about Clinton's choice of dresses and make-up (or the same for Trump, why not?)
This is the reason that none of the countless Congressional and FBI investigations of the Clintons has lead to either of them being in jail. There's no other explanation.
The fact that during these investigations all of the Republicans are 'anti Clinton' and all the Democrats are 'pro Clinton' means that every single Democrat is corrupt or inept or both.
The fact that the FBI did not find any crimes to charge them with means the FBI is also corrupt or inept. They clearly do not understand our legal system.
Also, I've read many transcripts from the various investigations and my legal acumen (IANAL) leads me to conclude that the Republicans are part of the Clinton conspiracy or they would have been able to dig up evidence leading to charges: therefore, every single Republicans are also corrupt or inept.
It appears that they didn't have competent people working the IT for this private server project. Otherwise, they would know what they are doing and would have done a much better job of securing the server (both physically and electronically). They wouldn't be asking simple questions on Reddit. It sounds like when they were looking for people to do the job, competence was not the most important factor. It sounds like willingness to cover-up, lie, and stand by Hillary at all costs (including falling on their own sword) was the only requirement. Maybe they couldn't find anyone competent who was willing to do that.
Your almost there, follow that money as Trump just said. Look at the Criminal Cabal that owns the Media/Banks/Supreme Court/Fed Reserve-(NotFederal)
Who controls ALL of that, that organized criminal organization has records on pediphiles, obama's gay clubbing in chicago, kaine crazy in Nicaragua. Look at why Epstein/Clinton Plane Ride Video's are not used to prosecute people? How did Epstein get 9months house arrest for Child Sex Slavery?
Your almost there keep looking you will find them. Here is a hint for you: Rev 2:9
Good luck, get all your friends to vote, family, drive them if you have too, get them to vote and ignore the fake poll numbers. GO VOTE.
1) Like TFA said, they may have wanted to put a place-holder instead of an actual and possibly still active email address, such as "[Person X]" instead of say "hrc@privateservers.com". That by itself is not illegal.
2) Please elaborate. It was against "proper practice"* to use it for WORK emails*.
3) Please elaborate. It was the Benghazi investigations that started the whole thing, not leaks. And being leaked does not mean it's not used anymore, it just means one is likely to start getting a shitload of spam and trolls.
* Outside services were not strictly forbidden, but H didn't get the written approval required by the official policies of S.D.
Table-ized A.I.
"It's not what it looks like."
"I would never do something like that."
"You just don't understand."
"Trust me, I wasn't doing anything wrong."
"I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
Here you go:
s/Hillary@\Clintonemail\.com/Anonymous Coward/gi
Have gnu, will travel.
Let's run with your conclusion - average guy does this, loses their job.
Let's also add that average guy does this, is then blacklisted from ever having any job with a security clearance again.
Hell, I'd be more than happy to see Hillary Clinton avoid jail if she was disqualified from working in any position in the government that required a security clearance :)
This is what you get when you hire someone with a paper cert. Cannot figure anything out on their own and come with a lack of integrity. If your boss does not respond go around them, if they don't respond, go around them - move your way to the top - if you get blocked - go to independent media - f mainstream media. What an idiot. I hope his IT career is over.
Altering data after a subpoena to preserve it is called tampering with evidence.
Doing it to conceal the identity of someone is an act of conspiracy, wire fraud and suppression of evidence.
Doing it to prevent others from discovery is contempt of court (in this case, contempt of Congress).
All of the above five (5) highlighted charges are criminal acts subject to federal indictment and conviction.
That is, unless the ruling administration says you're their friend. Then it's OK. Apparently.
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... with exchange.
BULLSHIT they aren't covering up.
Yeah, except for Trump. As far as I'm concerned he has removed himself for eligibility for the position of President of the United States.
You've forgotten the sandstorm of corruption that was Bush 43.
When the bar was lowered that much, it's hard to believe people are complaining about this.
The difference is the amount of light this thing sees by comparison.
Bush & Cheney colluding behind locked doors - off the record? What the shit was that?
Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public.
They don't want to reveal the email address that Clinton has been using illegally to circumvent public oversight into US foreign policy. Why? Is she still using it? Hasn't she stopped committing that crime yet?
Its beyond obvious that Comey is Hillary's stooge. Not only from his conclusions into her investigation but when you dig into the other ties between them.
I can't believe how anyone is continuing to take him seriously on anything, especially anything to do with Hillary.
Come to that, I can't believe how he's still employed and continuing to avoid his own prison stretch.
> Other than the fact that multiple investigations by Republicans over many years failed to point to anything that was really her fault.
If you mean criminally, perhaps. But she incompetently let them die out there by ignoring warnings that other governments acted on and giving them no more security, which they were desperately requesting.
> Yes she's so incompetent that the GOP can't charge with anything.
Being good at getting away with things is NOT a trait I select for when voting. Feel free to prosecute Bush.
> For Clinton's TPP lie, it was rated as halfway true by Politifact [politifact.com].
They're really reaching given the circumstances. She has told plenty of other lies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
There's another one like that about Trump. Neither of them is remotely truthful to us. Neither is fit for office.
> Now you are deflecting about Trump's clear misogynistic tendencies by bringing up Bill Clinton.
That's ridiculous. They're pointing out HILLARY'S OWN conduct in character assassinating the women who truthfully accused Bill of sexual harassment. She can't be blamed for Bill's actions, but she certainly can be blamed for HER OWN shameful attacks on the women abused by Bill. To put that another way, exactly who should be held responsible for the things Hillary said if not her? Or were you trying to say that you are okay with attacking women who have been sexually harassed?
>> But Clinton's career of personal enrichment at the public trough, character assassination, and decades of deceit and lying is far more sinister.
> This is a false dichotomy as it implies Trump has never used character assassination or has had decades of deceit and lying. He has.
A false dichtomy is when you're forced to choose between two things when there are more choices. You're implying that anyone saying Hillary is corrupt is forcing the conclusion that Trump isn't, which is absurd, because he is.
Obama will pardon her once she's elected, all they have to do is stall until then.
The FACTS are the reason so many people bash the Clintons.
There is a federal law requiring people with access to classified info to properly recognize it and handle it. The law makes it a FELONY to mishandle it (including placing it on an insecure non-government server of course) and this law requires no intent (it is intended to punish even reckless behavior). Comey let Clinton get away with hundreds of violations of this law and has no actual explanation - WATCH HIS TESTIMONY to congress this week!!!!!
The FBI has a long history of granting immunity to "little fish" in investigations in order to build criminal cases against "big fish". FBI guidelines rule-out giving immunity to people when nobody higher-up is being prosecuted. Comey's team gave immunity to a bunch of people from the IT guys up to Clinton's aide and personal lawyer (a VERY BIG FISH) and yet never empaneled a grand jury (i.e. they were not building a case). Comey gave immunity to people who directly violated the laws, and used nothing from them to go after anybody bigger. When people get immunity, they are required to tell the truth and fully cooperate with the ENTIRE government and if they fail on either count, they lose their immunity. The IT Guy got immunity yet refuses to cooperate with the congress, and Hillary's lawyer/aide Ms Mills got immunity and then lied directly to the FBI but both have kept their immunity. Comey has no explanation - WATCH HIS TESTIMONY to congress from this week!!!!
There is a federal law requiring federal officials (like the secretary of state) to retain all their records. These people work for the citizens of the county and their work product belongs to the nation. It is retained for [1] historical records, [2] citizen and "watchdog" research [3] the benefit of future officials who may need to go back and see what deals, negotiations, and precedents were set by their predecessors, [4] the judicial branch to consult in legal actions, etc. Hillary Clinton illegally subverted this with her private server. She hid/destroyed thousands of documents, interfering with congressional oversight, several lawsuits, and FOIA requests by journalists and the general public. Comey let her off for this and cannot actually explain why - WATCH THE DAMNABLE TESTIMONY!!!!
Hillary Clinton has been hiding and destroying government documents and documents sought by the courts for DECADES, starting.in the 1970s when she worked on the Watergate case. The Washington "machine", for some reason nobody can get to the bottom of, has always allowed her to get away with it - which is WHY her opponents get so infuriated. No average citizen would ever get away with doing 1% of what she has done. If you ever get audited by the IRS, for something so microscopic to the nation as your personal taxes (hardly a national security issue) just try imagining what would happen to you if you hid all your records on a secret server, then lied to the IRS repeatedly about it, then wiped the server and then handed it over to the IRS without the data while smirking and saying "with a CLOTH?"....... would YOU get away with it?
I held a security clearance while serving in the Navy during the Cold War. If I had done only a small bit of what she has done, I would have spent years in a federal prison, rather than be preparing to be promoted to the Presidency. This MUST BE STOPPED if there is any hope of stopping the Wall Street bankers and the globalists who hang out in Davos and own her and Obama. These elites apparently have a firm grip on all the levers of power in DC now more than ever and if they get Hillary into office there may never again be another Bernie or Trump or any other person concerned with average Americans rather than multinational globalist elites and their empires.
Different laws for the elites == end of the rule-of-law (i.e. end of the Republic).
The Democrats insisted on the Bushies using private servers for POLITICAL e-mails and government servers for GOVERNMENT e-mails and they houded them about it with glee. Pelosi and Reid and their friends took great pleasure from the fact that they had forced members of the Republican administration to have to keep wasting time walking back and forth between offices in different buildings to use the two separate systems. When some Bush idiot like Carl Rove (whom I despise) was advising Bush on policy he had to go to one place, then to deal with the RNC he had to go to the other, then return to the first. It was a joke in DC.
Back then, Democrats demanded this. Now they claim it was evil and try to use it as a cloak for Clinton's entirely different and illegal actions.
Hillary did ALL her work on one server (mixing personal actions and public work) and her server was not the government one, but a private one under her control which she hid from entire branches of the government (both the courts and the congress). Furthermore, either she corrupted the entire state department or she also hid her actions from parts of the executive branch, sine the state department told the courts they were unaware of her server and she apparently used no e-mails because they had none of her e-mails.
Obama's IRS Commissioner John Koskinen has admitted under oath to the congress that the IRS targeted the TEA Party.
Obama's IRS Inspector General has admitted under oath to the congress that the IRS targeted the TEA Party and that while it also looked at liberal groups, the liberal groups were a small set, added late (as-if to hide the earlier large action) and they were mostly then quickly approved while the TEA Party groups were still being stalled by the IRS.
Obamabot scripts are no substitute for reality. The truth is that you have no desire to see any facts, since in the internet age you could easily look them up yourself with things like Google (you've hear of that, right?). You are just a partisan hack who attacked somebody else for not citing, while you yourself also did not cite anything; you do that whole left wing deflection thing really well and it might work on morons but not on people with brains and a concern for the rapid decline of the nation.
There is no evidence she KNOWINGLY sent or received classified info. Thus, it's not a "lie". Lies require intent.
Sloppy and "incurious", perhaps, but that's a diff issue.
Also, the State Dept. screwed up by not sending her to Security Class. That's not directly her fault (unless it can be shown she played hooky.)
Regarding IRS, your own source:
Other sources do show "bad practices", but that's not the same as intent of political favoritism.
Table-ized A.I.
She only deleted those deemed "personal". It's true some non-personal ones actually also got deleted, but there's no evidence it was intentional.
Electronically recovered versions of the "mis-deleted" ones showed no signs of a pattern to hide, but rather sloppiness/laziness in filtering, being the "skipped" ones had trivial topics. Comey said it appeared that whoever filtered the emails for personal-vs-work only read the title and maybe the first few lines rather than the entire message to see if it were work-related.
Again, there is clear evidence of sloppiness, but NOT of "intent" to hide.
If anything, there's the opposite because those electronically recovered after the fact did not reveal any "secret pattern" to the deletion. It's true they couldn't recover all the emails, but those who deleted them wouldn't know which of the personal-deleted set would wind up being eventually recovered in the lab.
Thus, there is actually counter-evidence of intentional hiding, because the FBI got to sample some of those intentionally deleted (for allegedly being "personal" when in fact they were not).
Table-ized A.I.
That vegetables like this "specialist" Paul Combetta are allowed near other people's computers.
Seriously - "specialist" is some kind of NewSpeak for "he spends most of his time down in the basement in front of the computer playing games and with himself" ipso facto he's an expert at "computers".
I expect many of the current /. crowd will defend the clueless bastard - 'cos he has the same "skill" level as them (ironically they tend to rant about the evils of SJW).
Yes the guy is clueless - and so is anyone who asks questions about [insert product name here] without reading the fine documentation available from the vendor first. Yes, Reddit can often provide quality answers, though I'd rarely consider blindly applying them - likewise StackOverflow, if I was being asked to do something designed to be hidden from forensics. It's like your boss killed someone and asked you to mop up the mess before the cops arrived - do you do post for help on the intertubes... or call Mr Wolf? It's not like the average learning curve where the penalties for failure is another hours work.
If he'd had basic M$ qualifications (or the equivalent experience from reading and practise) he'd edit the .PST/.OST (and a similar approach for .EDB/.STM) using Linq/ADO - for older version of Outlook he'd use DAO - and if he had non-Microsoft skills he'd use other (more efficient) tools. (he'd also be changing the .xml and .nk(n) files). But more importantly would know better than to leave a bloody luminescent trail to his activities - or better, refuse to do the job (surely investigators could ensure the email wasn't made public - any more than it's already available to the public who are prepared to look in the right-places).
And no, there is no shortage of people with those, minimal skills - just a surfeit of pointy-headed employers.
> In truth, anyone who has enough money and/or power gets to circumvent the law easier than poor people or average Joes.
True. Tony Blair, Jack Straw and George W aren't up on war crimes for what they did in Iraq for the same reason Jack Straw gave Augusto Pincochet a get out of jail free card. Powerful do whatever the fuck they want. Little people go before the firing squad.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36738086 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/11/tony-blair-prosecution-war-crimes-hague-geneva-pillage-economy-iraq-chilcot http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/outrage-as-war-crimes-prosecutors-say-tony-blair-will-not-be-inv/ http://www.globalresearch.ca/iraq-why-no-chilcot-report-in-the-us-tony-blair-is-guilty-of-war-crimes-what-about-george-w-bush/5537806 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/iraq-war-inquiry-chilcot-tony-blair-prosecute http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/07/left-should-stop-calling-tony-blair-war-criminal-and-move
Liar Trump thinks people believe that dead squirrel on his head isn't a massive combover. In many respects he's more delusional than his supporters and that's saying something.
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Oh how I loved coming to get news for nerds since 1999. But you've gotten fatter, bloated, and uglier than I remember you from years ago. All the stupid shills and trolls, makes me think you've become another 4Chan, Tumblr, or what not. Please remove yourself from the Interwebz, as I no longer need you.
More Gov't != More corruption unless you let it be. And no, you won't reign in corruption by having less gov't. Nature abhors a vacuum, and all you'll do is create a power vacuum into which the mega rich will flood like noxious gas. This is how it was for 5 thousand years of recorded history.
Liberty isn't messy, but it's complex and you have to be willing to pay for it _for_everyone_. Let me emphasize that some more: FOR EVERYONE. That means when somebody ask (usually in a whinny voice) "But who's gonna pay for it?" the answer is: You are. That's the price you pay for civilization. If you don't like it go bugger the fuck off and live in the Ozarks or something so the rest of us can have a civilization please.
And speaking of quotes the worst thing I ever heard was: "I'm from the gov't and I'm hear to help". It wasn't uttered by a G-man (one of those paid for my buddy's insulin so his Type-1 Diabetes didn't kill him) it was shat out by some right wing scoundrel who wanted his billionaire boss' taxes cut.
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and a Bureaucrat. She's one of the folks who actually governs and shit (as opposed to shmucks like Ted Cruz & Paul Ryan who just wanna tear it all down so they can put their own power structures in place. Seriously, if you think those bastards care one whit about freedom you must be smoking something the Libertarians want legalized).
/. nerd. They're tools. Means to an end. Would you keep track of every screwdriver you put a beige box together with?
The odds are much, much more likely that she didn't recall asking about a server 7 bloody years ago. She doesn't think about computers all day long like your average
But hey, anything to stop that crazy bitch from getting into office, right? You'll even vote a crazed orange cheeto and religious whackjob in. Oh, and if you want horrifying conspiracy theories try googling the phrase Donald Trump 13 year old girl. Hey, I'm just asking questions, right?
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Can you quote the statue? The FBI decided they couldn't convict Hilary, but you make it sound so pat and obvious. And I didn't see any of you there ready to prosecute Reagan and Bush Jr (who deleted 22 _million_ (que Dr Evil pinky) email to cover up misconduct in Iraq). We can prosecute Hillary just as soon as we get done throwing Cheney in jail for the rest of his life.
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Bush Jr deleted 22 million emails to cover up misconduct in Iraq but nobody says he's a bad guy (well, nobody that matters). Face it, you're just repeating right wing talking points that have been crammed down your throat for 20 years in a desperate effort to torpedo Hilary's political career. Hey, you know what, maybe Hilary's not perfect. Who the fuck is. But we can, and just might, do a hell of a lot worse. Unless you are a white, heterosexual Christian male with a fondness for looking down on minorities you do _not_ want whatever the hell Mike Pence and his orange sock puppet are selling.
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She's neither. She's a pragmatist. She ran a private email server to hide her daily doings from her enemies. Which are legion since she's a right of center progressive with a chance to up end the non-stop crazy train of right wing madness we've been on since you asshats got hoodwinked by Reagan's charm.
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if it was anyone else but Hilary this would be a non issue. The 22 million emails that "disappeared" during the Bush Jr presidency prove that beyond all doubt.
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and if my mommy punished me for something that she let my brother do all fucking day long I would be justifiable pissed off. Our point is that _your_ being irrational. You're holding Clinton to a much, much higher standard because _you_don't_like_her. Personally. The one being irrational here aren't us libtards. It's you guys.
So when you're done letting that fear of Clinton ground into you by a multi-billion dollar right wing political machine get the best of you then you can join us at the big boy table and be genuinely terrified of a Mike Pence Shadow Presidency and the resulting supreme court.
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We can prosecute Hilary for a few emails right right we finish sentencing Dick Cheney for war crimes, the thousands of dead American Soldiers and the hundreds of thousands (look it up, it's a hard number to believe) number of civilian Iraqi deaths.
Also, go read this while your at it. Say what you will, but no jury alive would convict Hilary save for one hand picked by Karl Rove, and even then I'd give even odds.
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Go read this. There's plenty of good reason not to prosecute Hilary. Not the least of which is that a conviction was virtually impossible.
Another person on this thread made a good point. What Hilary did was basically speeding. Just about everyone in gov't does it. If there wasn't a right wing hate machine pumping stories about her misdeeds non-stop you wouldn't have even noticed. They've been after her for 20 years because they don't want her to be president. Think about that. A lot of very wealthy, very powerful folks with a long history of being shmucks don't want her to be president. If that's the the most ringing endorsement I've ever heard I don't know what the fuck is. You wanna stick it to somebody? Vote Hilary. You'll piss off way more people and who are way more powerful than you or I'll ever be.
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See here for why. Oh, and if by "anyone else" you don't include George Bush Jr (22million emails deleted) then you might be getting closer to the truth. Still way, way the fuck off it, but closer.
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And I'll tell you what I tell everyone that makes this logic error:
Just because some Republican shithead was a shithead, doesn't mean that a Democrat shithead gets to go unprosecuted when they clearly have broken the law. That kind of thinking allows these people to just continue being shitheads because "the other guys did bad things too."
Indict them all, and let them rot in jail. I can't believe that people are so willing to let someone slide because they happen to be from your chosen tribe. Wake up.
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Projection! You guys claim other people lie but offer zero evidence. It's political impressionism.
I suspect clubby partisan moderation is going on here. This topic has been corrupted.
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There's no evidence she knowingly did such. There are things that perhaps she should have been more curious about in terms of the secrecy, but this is a grey area.
It's fair to apply Hanlon's Razor at this stage. Hillary didn't pause to smell the paperclips.
And there should have been an active review board at State Department rather rely on employees to police themselves. A good many mistakes I see at work are institutional: if you don't have good processes in place, human laziness and bias does its magic.
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Addendum
Here is an article on the topic that explains the "Tea Party" tax exempt filing situation. I must disclose it's from a left-leaning source, but it gives you nuggets of info to cross-check in other ways.
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol...
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Wanting them all indicted and prosecuted is a valid position, but it's not the one I generally see. I see people who are "meh" about violations of the law until they involve a Clinton, at which point they get outraged.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Please elaborate on the IT side.
A home server versus AOL versus a "regular" gov't office email server NOT designed for classified info* doesn't make any LEGAL difference. The existing laws say nothing about server selection or ownership. The real issue is that none of the 3 listed were designed for classified info.
If somebody "put" classified info on ANY of them, a mistake is being made. As far as whose fault it is, well, that's an administrative/authority issue and NOT an IT issue.
* The "other" office system that was for classified info is generally not considered to be "email".
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