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Dilbert Creator Scott Adams Endorses Gary Johnson For President (dilbert.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader SonicSpike writes: Scott Adams, creator of the popular comic, Dilbert, has decided to endorse Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson for President. He writes at his blog: "Clinton supporters have been telling me for a few days that any visible support for Trump makes you a supporter of sex abuse. From a persuasion standpoint, that actually makes sense. If people see it that way, that's the reality you have to deal with. I choose to not be part of that reality so I moved my endorsement to Gary Johnson. I encourage all Clinton supporters to do the same, and for the same reason...

"To be fair, Gary Johnson is a pot head who didn't know what Allepo was. I call that relatable. A President Johnson administration might bring with it some operational risks, and policy risks, but at least he won't slime you by association and turn you into some sort of cheerleader for sex abuse in the way you would if you voted for the Clintons or Trump."

The essay concludes, "You might enjoy my book because you're not sure if I'm really endorsing Gary Johnson or just saying so to protect my brand."

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  1. Is this real life? by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a new low for a slashdot post...

    1. Re:Is this real life? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Funny

      By now maybe Adams should outsource his political analysis to Elbonia.

    2. Re: Is this real life? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Because Nadar worked out real well.....

      Nadar was only a problem in Florida. If you live in a swing state, you should vote for the lesser evil. Anywhere else, you should vote for what you actually want.

      I live in California, where Hillary has a double digit lead. So I will vote for Gary. If he gets over about 3% of the vote, it will send a message to the duopoly (especially the Republicans) that there is a significant constituency for less government and more personal freedom.

    3. Re: Is this real life? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Nice observation in hindsight. You're right that in California, you're probably safe 'voting your conscience', but don't assume the swing states will be the typical ones this time.

      I personally think Nader's sales pitch "The two major parties are Coke and Pepsi", while grounded in some truth, was a gross simplification that helped bring us 8 years of war, climate change denial, worsening income inequality and Citizens United - which only made the 3rd party scenario less likely to succeed in the future. If he had any integrity, he'd admit that - instead of insisting that Al Gore losing deep red Tennessee as a Democrat somehow leaves Nader blameless. There's no shame in acknowledging his spoiler role while maintaining his critique of the system. In fact, admitting his mistakes might actually help formulate a more effective strategy. But he's too full of himself to put changing the system in a constructive way above his own ego.

      And if Adams is serious that 'being equally slimed with sex scandals' - even if actually equally - is the reason he can't vote for Clinton or Trump, well then he's basically an embarrassed Trump supporter - who's overlooking a lot worse than what Trump said on a bus in 2005.

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    4. Re: Is this real life? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      If a third party gets 5% of the vote, they get funding for the next election. That's certainly important, beyond sending the immediate message.

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    5. Re: Is this real life? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      From Nader's point of view, thanking democrats for starting smaller unjust wars and sending slightly fewer innocent people to prison and being owned by slightly less evil corporations is like thanking Hitler for not being as extreme as Pol Pot. Why would he do that?

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    6. Re: Is this real life? by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      If a third party gets 5% of the vote, they get funding for the next election. That's certainly important, beyond sending the immediate message.

      Ya, just watch. I bet the same thing will happen that happened in the state I came from. Once the third party got 5%, the Democrats and republicans came together and raised the bar for 15% for the next election.

    7. Re:Is this real life? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Not really. It's a relevant cultural issue that we all have to deal with. As geeks many of us have to treat social contact and office politics as if we were exploring an alien planet. This whole guilt by association nonsense is just part of that.

      First they just insulted voters. Then they tried to call the other guy Hitler. When that didn't work they tried to turn him into some sort of sex monster.

      He's nothing more than an entertainer with some groupies.

      Try to be the voice of reason or stick up for actual liberty and you very well may be virtually lynched. It seems to be a common thing these days and you don't even have to be anyone interesting. You could just be dating someone interesting.

      At this point, it just seems like I'm insufficiently gay for the progressive hive mind.

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    8. Re: Is this real life? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I bet the same thing will happen that happened in the state I came from. Once the third party got 5%, ...

      What state was that?

    9. Re: Is this real life? by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      Nader wasn't even a problem in Florida. Bush got more "Democrat" votes than Nader did.

      If Gore had managed to win his home state of Tennessee, Florida wouldn't have mattered.

      Gore just lost.

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    10. Re:Is this real life? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      I guess his man crush on Trump is over?

      http://www.slate.com/articles/...

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    11. Re: Is this real life? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Why would he do that? Ummmm... So fewer innocent people go to prison and we're owned by slightly less evil corporations?

      The 'lesser of two evils' is still less evil, dammit. And nobody's asking Nader to thank anybody. Just to admit that his 3rd party tactics aren't working, and in fact, are counterproductive. That's not to say he's wrong about the 2 party system - it's just saying he's doing a lousy job of fixing it - and losing stature in the process.

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  2. Good choice by Xifer · · Score: 1

    Well, he had two choices, Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. There are no other decent picks so one out of two is not bad.

    1. Re:Good choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your post insinuates that Jill Stein is a decent pick.

      A moron who thinks wifi is cooking our childrens' brains is barely fit to post shit on Facebook, let alone be president of an entire country.

    2. Re:Good choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm intrigued by this "pro-freedom" aspect: do you see the US as a country where you are likely to be 'disappeared' because you have been critical of the current government?

      No, as long as you don't have any evidence to back your criticism. As soon as you get some, you are fugitive or incarcerated and tried for treason, and that's just for the people we know about. I can't say if there are disappeared ones, but I guess that would be congruent with the act of disappearing. Having learned that some potentially dangerous (armed fundamentalist islamist combatant prisoners of war) people were actually "disappeared", it is not much of a stretch of imagination that there were some akin to Manning, Snowden and Assange who never got their 15 minutes in the news. After all, their perceived damage potential is much greater then those of some third-world AK47 wielders.

    3. Re:Good choice by wonkavader · · Score: 1

      Voting for Stein won't get you any power. Her numbers are too small. If she gets 4% (which would be amazing) it won't influence anyone or get reported.

      Voting for the pot-head-know-nothing (true or not) Johnson will accumulate some numbers in that bucket, and 6% or 7% of electorate voting for him will get him in the news, and perhaps get his successor on a debate stage.

      I'd personally rather we had a decent Green candidate to vote for, but we don't. And even if we did, right now voting Johnson would be the better strategic move. Giving a third party more power will also help a fourth.

    4. Re:Good choice by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      I don't agree with Johnson on a lot of issues, but I think he's the best choice this year. Jill Stein might be a good person, but she seems like a total cook to me. That's why I have her ranked all the way down at #2, just above the 2 corrupt sociopaths that are also running.

    5. Re:Good choice by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1
      "What color do you want your President ?"
      - I think mauve has the most trust.

      Database color

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    6. Re: Good choice by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Voting for Stein is great if you like Trump. Voting for Johnson is great if you love Hillary ... or Trump if you live in a Western stare.

      Me personally see A HUGE difference in Trump vs Hillary! I do not even like Hillary. But no one else is freaking qualified and sadly I wish American voters were not retarded and do not see this!

      If both candidates were competent I would say vote green or libertarian. I lean libertarian but will be voting Hillary.

    7. Re:Good choice by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      > If she gets 4% (which would be amazing) it won't influence anyone or get reported.

      If 4% of America votes Green, that would be unprecedented, and it would be reported everywhere. More importantly, it would send a strong message to Democrats about what values they should display.

      Likewise if Johnson gets close to the 10% he's polling at, but aimed at both major parties, both of which have libertarian wings that are generally suppressed.

      It is unlikely that Johnson or Green get ANYTHING close to what they are polling at. This is actually a big part of why the polls are dicked up: if 10-15% of your electorate is claiming they will vote third or fourth party, then you have a serious issue, given that the historical precedent is like 1% for libertarians and half a percent for Greens. Either we are about to see shattering third party numbers, or many of these voters will actually vote Clinton or Trump (or both, frankly- with that many votes in the hopper, who knows). The attempt to control for this is to ask voters who they would vote for if they JUST had Clinton or Trump, which doesn't have the same level of respondents, and may or may not be accurate.

      If Johnson gets 3% and Stein gets 1%, that would be a ludicrous change in our elections, which normally see all third party stuff in the sub 2% range. And yes, people who make policy would definitely take note of this.

    8. Re:Good choice by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "Voting for Stein won't get you any power. Her numbers are too small. If she gets 4% (which would be amazing) it won't influence anyone or get reported."

      And if you manage to elect Stein you won't get any power either, because she will take it all away. You will have to hook your computer to a stationary bicycle and communicate with the other people who are doing the same.

    9. Re:Good choice by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      I have seen more Johnson yard signs than Trump. It may just be that the Johnson supporters are angry and the Trump supporters are embarrassed. I don't know.

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  3. He also endorsed Trump by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind. First he did the world's fakest endorsement for Clinton:

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1...

    Then he switched over to trump:

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1...

    There are some brutally funny and plain brutal Dilbert comics out there, but he seems to have gone a but nuts in his old age. He seems to have forgotten that DNRC was all a big joke and has started to actually take it seriously.

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    1. Re:He also endorsed Trump by geek · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Maybe you should learn what satire is jackass

    2. Re:He also endorsed Trump by NatasRevol · · Score: 1, Insightful

      He's been a bit nuts for a long time.

      And by 'a bit nuts', I mean the most arrogant person you've ever heard of.

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    3. Re:He also endorsed Trump by chispito · · Score: 1

      he seems to have gone a but nuts in his old age. He seems to have forgotten that DNRC was all a big joke and has started to actually take it seriously.

      He seems not to have gone nuts. You seem to have misread a satirist.

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    4. Re:He also endorsed Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      From the Clinton endorsement:

      "So I’ve decided to endorse Hillary Clinton for President, for my personal safety. Trump supporters don’t have any bad feelings about patriotic Americans such as myself, so I’ll be safe from that crowd. But Clinton supporters have convinced me – and here I am being 100% serious – that my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I’m taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president."

    5. Re:He also endorsed Trump by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Maybe you should learn what satire is jackass

      I know what satire is. Saying stupid stuff and then claiming it's satire when you get called on it isn't actually satire.

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    6. Re:He also endorsed Trump by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      It's kind of weird satire though. I'm having trouble quite getting what the overall joke is.

      I mean I can see how at time he's mocking the general public for thinking they're rational. But it's mixed with a lot of stuff that he seems serious about (Trump's persuasion skills). It all seems to be a really abstract for of satire.

    7. Re:He also endorsed Trump by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Adams is more arrogant.
      Trump is more delusional.

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    8. Re:He also endorsed Trump by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Nah, you were just roped in. Satire is a great way to get people suffering from the ID ten T error worked up.

    9. Re:He also endorsed Trump by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      Because it's so very important to get our political viewpoint from a cartoonist who gets his material from readers mailing in situations from their jobs

    10. Re:He also endorsed Trump by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Nah, you were just roped in.

      It's been a pattern of his for years: I used to be a fan. To be fair, the old Dilbert's are still funny. The hitrate has gone down in recent years but that's not unusual from such a long running cartoon. I used to read the blog regularly. The character of it definitely changed and I drifted away. Basically it was slowly moving towards what it has become now.

      The things is he's been systematically pretending to hide behind satire for years choosing it to be a valid opinion or satire depending on how people react. That's just cowardly.

      Satire is a great way to get people suffering from the ID ten T error worked up.

      shrug. It's nice to live in a simple world where everyone who disagrees with you is worked up and annoyed, but that sadly does not make it so. Or are you being satirical?

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  4. flip flops by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 3, Informative

    The man has endorsed all three candidates at one point or another. I would not take this matter with any seriousness (which is probably what he hopes for anyways.)

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    1. Re:flip flops by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      I am not taking any of the four candidates I could name with any seriousness. (Which is probably what they hope for anyways.)

    2. Re:flip flops by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with being malleable? All of the choices are terrible, if you're really determined to choose it's not easy to pick the lowest evil.

      I've followed his blog enough that I'm not sure if he's serious or just trolling 99% of the time, but this doesn't seem to support that one way the other.

    3. Re:flip flops by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      New information? What new information. We've known pretty much all of this nonsense on all sides since the beginning.

      Perhaps filling in an occasional sordid detail, but this isn't new or news.

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    4. Re:flip flops by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As a professional comedian/cartoonist. There is a seriousness inside his joke.
      He may or may not be really endorsing any candidate. But using absurdness of endorsing to point out problems.
      Over the past generation or so. We have been equating a person's personal ethics and their stance as a human being based on their political and who they vote for.

      Studies show that a person's political stance is based on what they grew up with. So if you lived in a republican family with republican friends you will be republican or vice versa. Growing up in such an environment the opposing political party is seen as evil, stupid, or part of some grand conspiracy. So attacks on that candidate of your choosing are usually ignored or considered exaggerated for political reasons. While what they do well, is strongly weighed. Thus making your choice seem perfectly rational.

      Now if you are actually a person in the middle, and you observe all these families and lives you find that they are quite similar, have the same problems and often think of the same solution, until the party of their choice states it is different.

      While I personally will be voting for Clinton,it isn't because Trump voters are all racists. Nor do I expect the democratic party turn the US into a communist nation.

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    5. Re:flip flops by magarity · · Score: 2

      What's wrong with being malleable?

      In this particular case, being malleable at this point shows one hasn't been paying attention. Any individual candidate's fluffiness or scruffiness is much less important than their backing party, and the party agendas are slow to change. Slow as in measured in decades.

    6. Re:flip flops by mattventura · · Score: 1

      Most of his endorsement switches haven't been for reasons of new information (although the Clinton estate tax plan was one of them), but have been for his safety or image. Seems it's more of a play to point out how absurd it is that we figuratively skin people alive for their endorsements, especially in an election cycle where every candidate, even the two biggest third party ones, are mostly trash.

    7. Re:flip flops by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2

      Alice Cooper for President!

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    8. Re:flip flops by sycodon · · Score: 1

      He is a humorist.

      James Thurber, Dave Berry, Doug Adams, Mark Twain...ever hear of those guys?

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    9. Re:flip flops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He endorsed Trump two weeks ago

    10. Re:flip flops by fldsofglry · · Score: 1

      Why yes, yes he did: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1...

    11. Re:flip flops by plover · · Score: 2

      I removed Dilbert from my bookmarks a few months ago when Scott began bringing up politics constantly. If I want to hear more opinions about either candidate's lies or incompetence, I'll bash my head into the wall until the feeling goes away.

      I was thinking I'd add it back after the election, but I haven't missed it enough to worry about it.

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    12. Re:flip flops by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      He's a cartoonist and satirist skilled in ironic humor. If you have read any of his commentary over the last year it's clear he not only supports Trump, he has been actively campaigning for him.

    13. Re:flip flops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As a professional comedian/cartoonist. There is a seriousness inside his joke.

      Sounds like he'll say anything, he's just trying to sell his merchandise.

    14. Re:flip flops by kylemonger · · Score: 2

      He's a snake oil salesman. He's been saying Trump will win for over a year because Trump is a "master persuader" and could sell water to a drowning man. Facts have no bearing on people's choices, only "linguistic kill shots" matter, etc. Now that Trump is losing badly and Adams is being proved wrong, it turns out that neither he nor Trump is "fueled by criticism" after all, they just duck it like everyone else.

    15. Re:flip flops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I will personally be voting for Clinton because she's the only thing standing between Trump and the nuclear launch codes.

      I don't understand how anybody can still vote to put nuclear armaments under the control of somebody who would go on a 3am Twitter rampage after being besmirched about his 20-year-old public shaming of a teenage beauty queen.

      Ignoring the fact that he's never heard of the term "nuclear triad", this is a man who wouldn't rule out nuking Europe, doesn't understand why we can't use nukes, and thinks more countries (like Saudi Arabia and Japan) should have them!

      All politics aside, a world with Trump as POTUS is materially less safe for all inhabitants.

      dom

    16. Re:flip flops by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And who cares who a cartoonist endorses for president? It's really odd. Except that he's got a loyal following. The loyalists don't agree with him but they're following him. I don't care who my mother is voting for either but she tells me anyway.

    17. Re:flip flops by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      I'm a decline-to-state voter. I'm not a member of any organized or disorganized political party. And this stance is based upon growing up with very partisan friends, relations, neighbors, towns, universities. I do not care for watching competitive sports, I don't have any favorite sports teams, and that's the same feeling I have for politics - it's all a bit too sweaty and smelly for me to jump in and start waving pom poms around.

    18. Re:flip flops by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Many "humorists" are far wiser than those that claim to be wise or those that are held up by others as wise.

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    19. Re:flip flops by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      Alice Cooper for President!

      I hear he wants to be elected.

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    20. Re:flip flops by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      By process of elimination, that would tend to indicate the candidate he really supports is Doctor Jill Stein, unless of course he comes out and actually supports her, then I would have to assume he intends to run for office himself and the guise of Dilbert.

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    21. Re: flip flops by bondsbw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is quite wrong to say that voting for third party is ineffective, even if the result is practically assured to favor a major party candidate.

      If you reside in a non-swing state, like the vast majority of Americans, your vote doesn't count in any case. It doesn't matter if you vote for the inevitable winner of your state, or the major party loser, or a third party candidate. Your vote is just as statistically insignificant in any case.

      But voting third party helps provide public campaign funding to that party in the next Presidential election. Third parties who actually make it, or come close enough to have a real platform, are more likely to lobby to reform the election systems which take choice away and always leave us with the so-called choice between the "better of two evils".

      That is why it matters. If we want to get good candidates in the future, we must start voting against the duopoly now.

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    22. Re: flip flops by easyTree · · Score: 1

      He's probably a better candidate than any of the war criminals and other brand of freak who are in the running.

    23. Re: flip flops by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Pro Tip: Trump exists only to make Clinton seem appealing.

    24. Re: flip flops by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      So that grand conspiracy takes into account that the majority of republicans were stupid and/or hateful enough to elect him through the Republican primaries.

      If Trump was part of the democrats master plan, it had backfired. Because their master plan, would had Trump tarnish the name of the guys running against him. So when they run against Clinton they will have black marks on their name true or not.

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    25. Re: flip flops by magarity · · Score: 2

      like the vast majority of Americans, your vote doesn't count in any case

      No individual raindrop is responsible for the devastating flood. But they were all needed to make it happen. Each vote does count. That is kinda the basic "what happens" during an election: counting all the votes.

    26. Re: flip flops by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      I did qualify it later with

      Your vote is just as statistically insignificant in any case.

      But I guess being technically correct is the best kind of correct.

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    27. Re:flip flops by lsatenstein · · Score: 2

      As a professional comedian/cartoonist. There is a seriousness inside his joke.
      He may or may not be really endorsing any candidate. But using absurdness of endorsing to point out problems.
      Over the past generation or so. We have been equating a person's personal ethics and their stance as a human being based on their political and who they vote for.

      Studies show that a person's political stance is based on what they grew up with. So if you lived in a republican family with republican friends you will be republican or vice versa. Growing up in such an environment the opposing political party is seen as evil, stupid, or part of some grand conspiracy. So attacks on that candidate of your choosing are usually ignored or considered exaggerated for political reasons. While what they do well, is strongly weighed. Thus making your choice seem perfectly rational.

      Now if you are actually a person in the middle, and you observe all these families and lives you find that they are quite similar, have the same problems and often think of the same solution, until the party of their choice states it is different.

      While I personally will be voting for Clinton,it isn't because Trump voters are all racists. Nor do I expect the democratic party turn the US into a communist nation.

      If I was American, I would vote Democrat. There is a safety rule in politics -- you need checks and balances. If you get a Republican senate, a republican house, and a republican president, what is there to stop them from enacting laws detrimental to the middle or lower class. Obviously, we have already seen laws that favour the super wealthy. What would stop a stupid law of there was a Republican majority as mentioned.

      With checks and balances, the president can veto bad legislation, and he can, if he is intelligent (as opposed to clever), work with congress to set the direction for the next term. I believe that a president should be there for 8 years, and only on exception, should he be removed (voluntarily or otherwise, after 4 years).

      And with this election, please show me the plans for the next President. The democrats have posted theirs. Possibly the Republicans have also posted theirs, but what about independent Trump, All I hear from the debates is 20 seconds of I will do better, and 100 seconds of side issues, eg blasting Senator Hillary with insults. Take this note with you "She did not get to be senator because of her looks, she earned that right to represent her people". A President is there not to lead, but to represent the people. People who are giving him a mandate to carry out the people's wishes.

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    28. Re: flip flops by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Ahhh. The non-swing state loophole. You're right about that, of course, but I'm addressing those Johnson/Stein supporters that don't do nuance. Even Ralph Nader came around in 2000 to saying that his supporters in swing states probably shouldn't vote for him. But it was too little, too late. And besides, I'd make the point that hyperbolically calling the two parties 'Coke and Pepsi' is just another example of the false equivalence disease that's affecting our political discourse.

      Third parties can make whatever points they want - but if they really care about moving the needle in the right direction on issues they stand for, then muddying the waters with false equivalences hurts more than it helps. There's got to be a better way to make 3rd parties viable than to repeatedly serve as spoilers. Like doing the hard work of concentrating on down-ballot positions - and then changing the electoral laws state-by-state.

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    29. Re: flip flops by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      A design flaw of our election system is that two parties are inevitable and third party or independent candidates are likely to only serve as spoilers... at least until one or both of the major candidates is so unpopular as to incite political revolt.

      We need a new voting system, such as ranked voting, which would eliminate the strategic advantage of voting against your conscience and for the lesser of two evils. Democrats and Republicans want to stay in power and will avoid even discussing improvements to the system that gave them that power. Third party candidates are likely to care about that issue, and Gary Johnson at least has explicitly stated support for ranked voting.

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    30. Re:flip flops by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Your comments make a lot of sense, I think. What I don't understand is, well, American politics: this tendency to either idolise or demonise everybody. It makes no sense at all, especially since politicians, even when running for president, are simply humans, no much different from you and me, and if you know anything about yourself, you wouldn't be surprised or disappointed about their little dirty secrets. When you are rich and privileged, you will come to think that you are entitled to ignore what is legally or morally right, because that is what most people would do; denying it would be sanctimonious.

      Politicians today are not, as far as I can see, any more dishonest than they have always been, and I wonder why there is such a wild hysteria about them now. I don't know the answer to that, but I suspect somewhere somebody has an agenda that makes it desirable.

      But to return to the candidates - is Ms Clinton really as throughly evil as she is portrayed, a criminal mastermind? Of course not, give me a break; criminal masterminds prefer to enjoy the high life and pull strings without getting their hands dirty, and being the president isn't actually a very comfortable job: you are constantly reviled and everything you do is opposed at every turn. And is Mr Trump really nothing more than a loudmouthed self-aggrandiser and manipulator? It's hard for me to tell - I loathe him - but I have heard what seemed like reliable witnesses say that he is actually a nice person in private, we just dont see any of that.

      The point is, politics is a strange game, where everybody is an opponent (including your best friends), and you need a lot of experience to know when you can risk trusting anybody and when you absolutely shouldn't, and need to understand what to say, when to say it and especially when to just shut up. Politicians can't just speak their mind openly, because everybody is going to jump on it and use it against you. IMO, objectively speaking, I think Clinton is far more up to this than Trump, and the rest of them aren't even in the game. Do I like the two? Not really, but I don't have to, they are not going to come over for dinner any time soon, but there is no doubt that Clinton can be a better president than Trump ever could.

    31. Re:flip flops by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      his responsibility to make a meaningful choice between the two truly available choices.

      There is no such responsibility. Voting - or not voting - is a personal choice. That's the way it has to be.

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    32. Re:flip flops by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      From a strategic standpoint, you don't ever want to rule out using your most powerful weapons. Moreover, the POTUS doesn't have unilateral control over the use of nukes.

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    33. Re:flip flops by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      "Now if you are actually a person in the middle"

      There is no guarantee that the midpoint between a conservative's viewpoint and a liberal's viewpoint on an issue is the position that most accurately represents reality. And while I'd guess you didn't mean that literally, throwing phrases around like that reinforces the false notion that "middle ground" is what a reasonable person should believe.

      Sometimes one side is just plain wrong. Sometimes there really are things called facts. Sometimes controversies are real, sometimes they are made up.

      It is hard to escape the mindset of left/right, us/them, when the news constantly reinforces the notion. Every news show has a pro-guest and an anti-guest. And for a subject like climate change, that makes viewers think an issue is 50/50. Which isn't true most of the time. Most of the time there is a real actual answer to a question.

      But most politicians are admittedly not concerned with truth, they are concerned with perception and manipulating it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnhJWusyj4I

    34. Re:flip flops by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I will personally be voting for Clinton because she's the only thing standing between Trump and the nuclear launch codes.

      Do you really want the nuclear launch codes in the hands of someone who is "extremely careless"?

    35. Re: flip flops by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, if you DO live in a swing state, vote for Clinton. Your vote matters, and as much as you don't like her, she's far better than Trump.

  5. Honestly... by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

    1. Re:Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

      The Libertarians are just republicans who want legal weed.

    2. Re:Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As a former member of the LP, I can say they've blown their chance on multiple occasions. Every election they trot out some nutty extremist who is ill equipped to hold office.

    3. Re:Honestly... by geek · · Score: 2

      The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

      Agreed. Johnson is about as Libertarian as Clinton is Liberal. Johnson has been their champion for the better part of a decade and they've only seen their numbers get worse. The guy is a fucking train wreck worse than Trump or Clinton.

    4. Re:Honestly... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      So... Republicans without the religious baggage?

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    5. Re:Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So... Republicans without the religious baggage?

      Not necessarily, look at their icon Ron Paul.

    6. Re:Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a former member of the LP, I can say they've blown their chance on multiple occasions. Every election they trot out some nutty extremist who is ill equipped to hold office.

      As opposed to Trump?

    7. Re:Honestly... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Johnson is about as Libertarian as Clinton is Liberal. Johnson has been their champion for the better part of a decade and they've only seen their numbers get worse.

      Factually wrong on every point. Johnson ran for the Libertarian nomination in 2012 after he didn't make it in the 2012 GOP primaries. In 2012, he got just about 1%. This year, he's polling anywhere between 8-13%. Even if he were to finish on the low end of that range, it would be a huge improvement over where they were in 2012.

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    8. Re:Honestly... by swalve · · Score: 1

      I don't think you know what libertarian means.

    9. Re:Honestly... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

      Indeed. I had high hopes a few months ago that we'd at least have the possibility of seeing a 3rd-party candidate on the debate stage. In a year when the two major parties have basically elected the most hated candidates in history, ANYONE else might have seemed like a "breath of fresh air." I sincerely doubted a 3rd-party candidate could actually win the election, but with all the squabbling and ill-will toward the major parties, it could have really started to shake stuff up in future years if a 3rd-party candidate managed to get maybe 15% or even 20+% of the vote.

      Alas, Johnson has had a few major gaffes, and most of the mainstream media will be relentless on stamping out any 3rd-party voice at any chance they can get (particularly in a year like this where everyone keeps saying "the stakes are so high"). And Johnson doesn't have the brand-recognition or the savvy to play up these gaffes in a way like Trump would -- Trump would just call everyone else idiots and say something outlandish so everyone forgot about the gaffe. So the media can feel okay in going back to just ignoring the 3rd parties.

      Frankly, the whole Aleppo thing was less disconcerting to me than the later interview where Johnson couldn't name ANY world leader he respected. I can understand someone just having a moment of confusion once around a place name on the other side of the planet. But you're asked repeatedly if you can identify ONE world leader you admire, and you can't think of anyone?? Even if you can't remember the person's name you'd really like to say, come up with something else. Or move the question to some other non-"leader" you'd admire. Or anything really. He just stammered and couldn't come up with anything... which means he either is decidely ignorant about world politics or is exceedingly bad at public debate (and unable to recover if he forgot one name). Either way, it was embarrassing.

      And thus, I'm no longer sure it would have been a good thing to have him on stage at the debates. If he were asked the wrong question, it would make 3rd parties even more fringe and unrealistic than they already seem to most people.

    10. Re:Honestly... by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Not only that but the measly 1% he got in 2012 was the best ever voting turnout for the Libertarian Party. Kudos to the Party for not bowing to the crazy pants removers in the party and putting up someone who is extreme and nuts out there and sticking with Gary, who while imperfect, has a good track record on freedom and actual political experience to back it up.

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    11. Re:Honestly... by wonkavader · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter. He's not going to win. If you vote Libertarian now, you might have a COUPLE of libertarian candidates to chose from in the next cycle, and you might have a Libertarian on the debate stage to push the Republican candidate slightly further into the Libertarian positions.

      You are not voting for Johnson, you are voting for a third party. You should do it, because the current two are crap.

      In 12 years, either the Libertarian party will have replaced the Republican party, or (much more likely) the Republican party will embrace more Libertarian ideas, but only if you vote Libertarian now. Johnson as a person is unimportant.

      (I also think Democrats outside of swing states should vote libertarian, because I think a Libertarian win will also improve push the Democratic platform. It's a win-win for either party.)

    12. Re:Honestly... by WrongMonkey · · Score: 1

      You can argue whether Johnson is No True Libertarian or not. But in the last elecion, Johnson received 1,275,951 votes nationally (0.99% of the popular vote), setting a record for the most votes won by a Libertarian Party presidential nominee. He is almost certain to break that record this election. So the one thing you cannot say is that he is driving voters away.

    13. Re:Honestly... by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      In 2012 he's had a better showing than any previous libertarian candidate, nearly doubling the next best showing. And this year current polling suggests he will do about 8 times better than his 2012 showing.

      I don't know how much of this is due to Johnson himself. It might have more to do with the increasing popularity of the Libertarian party itself, or decreasing popularity of the 2 major parties, but the claim that he's doing worse than his predecessors is about as factually wrong as anything can be.

    14. Re:Honestly... by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      I can name lots of world leaders. When I first heard this, I could not honestly say that I admired any of them. The people I admire are not typically politicians.

      Let's see just off the top of my head, I swear:
      I might get some spellings wrong, and I might get some ex-leaders rather than current leaders (because I'm not cheating)
      U.S.A. - Obama (I guess I admire him, but I don't think this counts)
      GB - Cameron? But he just resigned after brexit or something....
      Germany - Merkel
      France - Holland
      China - Shi jin ping?
      Syria - Asad
      Iran - Ahmadinajad / Khamanei
      Iraq - Malaki
      Afghanistan - Starts wth a K... damnit I know this one.
      Venezuela - Maduro
      Mexico - Pena Nieto
      Russia - Putin
      Itlay - Burlesconi
      Egypt - Al Sisi
      Turkey - Erdogan
      North Korea - Kim Jong un
      Saudi Arabia - fomrelry king Abdulluh? But he died and now his son is in charge I think.
      Canada - Trudeaux (Seems like a nice guy, don;t know if I admire him yet, he just started)
      India - Modi
      Pakistan - Formerly Bhutto (maybe I admire her for her courage, but she's not a *current* world leader), don;t know who took over.
      Australia - was Abott last time I checked (don;t know if they had a new election yet).

      I think I probably would have done better on this pop quiz than most US congressman and governors. I can't name any I admire, except maybe Obama, and that answer would just make me look like I don't know any foreign leaders. It turns out that most notable foreign leaders are assholes.

      I normally roll my eyes when I hear someone call a question from the media a "gotcha question", but I kind of think this one. There aren't really any good answers that aren't bullshit. Maybe someone like Hillary can give a good answer because she's actually already met a lot of these people in person. This isn't even a foreign policy question. Although maybe giving a bullshit answer is a test of ones diplomatic abilities.

    15. Re:Honestly... by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      Recap:
      Afghanistan: I was thinking of Karzai, which is now wrong since Ashraf Ghani took over in 2014.
      Great Britain: There is a new PM Theresa May just recently
      Saudi Arabia: King Abdulluh's son is now King Salman
      Iraq: al-Malaki was succeeded by al-Abadi in 2015.
      Australia: Abbott was succeeded by Turnbull in 2015

      I don't think I did to bad for having not studied at all.

      I think I might have even done better than Gary, at the name foreign leaders pop quiz. But I think I would have failed equally hard to name one that I admired. I can't bullshit very well. I don't really know any of these people, and even if I did, I don't think I would admire many of them. Many of them are obviously assholes without even really knowing them.

    16. Re:Honestly... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

      They were building support for their platform, but they ran out of Reardon metal.

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    17. Re:Honestly... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Some of the names on your list are a bit dated - like Berlusconi left years ago. Pakistan is led by Nawaz Sharif. Iran's president is Rouhani - Khamenei is still the chief Ayatollah, though, which is #1, so one can give you that. But overall you did a pretty good job. (Did all this w/o referring Wiki, which could have told me who Italy's current Prime Minister is)

    18. Re:Honestly... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      You forgot to double-check Iran, Mahmoud is old news.

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    19. Re:Honestly... by Talderas · · Score: 1

      I also think Democrats outside of swing states should vote libertarian, because I think a Libertarian win will also improve push the Democratic platform. It's a win-win for either party.

      I would find it amusing should Gary Johnson win a non-swing state because of this sort of behavior.

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    20. Re:Honestly... by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      > So the one thing you cannot say is that he is driving voters away.

      No, the one thing you cannot say is 'ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn', both because it lacks useful vowels, and will likely summon Cthulhu. But your point is still mostly valid.

    21. Re:Honestly... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

      I think the issue was that he considered it a "gotcha" question. He assumed (justifiably) that anyone he named would be thrown back at him... "Oh, so you admire BLANK, what about this thing that they did that's objectionable?!"

      First, the actual question was to name a foreign leader he RESPECTS. Yes, I used the word "admire" too, as did some media sources, but the actual word was "respect." When the question was repeated on the show, it was also changed to "like." But NOT "admire," nor was it, as Johnson later tried to spin it, asking for his "favorite" leader.

      So, he wasn't asking to "admire" someone -- he was just asked for the name of someone he respects or even likes. That's a pretty low bar. And whatever name he came up with, he could immediately have followed with a disclaimer saying, "I don't know any that really stand up for libertarian principles. But, well, I respect what X does, but there are also serious problems with what he/she does with Y and Z." Or anything like that.

      Sure, he's not a great public speaker, and if you want to disqualify him on that front, go ahead... but to promote the narrative that he somehow doesn't *know* the names of any foreign leaders is just absurd.

      Umm, where did I promote the narrative that he doesn't "know the names of any foreign leaders"? I said this shows either he's a poor public speaker OR he's ignorant of world politics. I'm sure he knows the names of some foreign leaders, but he should have been able to come up with a name of someone who has SOME policies Johnson could respect. Being unable to do so either means you don't know enough about world politics or you haven't really thought deeply about how you might interact with other world leaders... or both.

      Or, it means he just had a REALLY bad public speaking moment. And that's relevant since my ENTIRE post was about whether or not it would be good to have Johnson on stage as a representative of a 3rd party at the main debates. Whether he's a good speaker or good at debate is precisely the most relevant thing to what I was talking about.

    22. Re:Honestly... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      That Johnson can't name any leaders he admires is a plus in my book.

      Note that the word in the question was "respect." The media have spun it as name a leader he "admires" and Johnson himself has spun it as though he were asked to name his "favorite" leader, which he said would have been a bad question to answer.

      But the actual world was "respect" -- name a world leader you respect. To me, that word implies that you can find someone who did SOMETHING that's good to your mind. He could have preceded his choice with some disclaimers or followed up with qualifiers to say why the person he named wasn't perfect... but the question was actually to name someone you "respect."

      I can understand why it would be difficult and perhaps even weird for a Presidential candidate to name another leader he "admires." But respect? Surely there is SOMEONE in the world Mr. Johnson has some respect for??

    23. Re:Honestly... by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      Ron Paul isn't even a Libertarian as far as I'm concerned.

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    24. Re:Honestly... by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      Did you just pull all of that out of thin air, or do you have a source? Because it's seriously wrong.

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    25. Re:Honestly... by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the corrections. Part of learning is learning how wrong you are about stuff :)

    26. Re:Honestly... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, at least they're honest about being selfish bastards. That's one notch up from the two airheads that are currently blaring at each other in every debate.

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    27. Re:Honestly... by dywolf · · Score: 1

      The Libertarian party had a chance to go mainstream but they blew it big-time.

      Indeed.

      Johnson is a nice guy, a funny guy (I appreciate him even trying to turn his gaffes into self-deprecating humour), and has a handful of positions I agree with.
      But otherwise he's a hard right conservative whom I could never support because the overwhelming bad outweighs the couple good things.

      Really, they should be running Bill Weld.
      The man's credentials are better than Johnson's, and he has a functioning brain.
      Johnson is not now, and may never, be ready for the job of POTUS.

      I say this as a person who leans left-libertarian more than liberal (but I will embrace that term when used against for I am not ashamed of it) and mocks the laughable "Libertarians" on the right and thinks their ideology is idiotic

      But in the year of Trump/Clinton, they decided to run Johnson, and even I can see the stupidity of that.

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    28. Re:Honestly... by aquacrayfish · · Score: 1

      I want to agree with you on this, but I'm pretty sure that in the year of the protest vote, where we pretty much have 3 parties falling squarely in that camp, he should be polling better than he is. Maybe he is the sanest choice for the party he represents, but I would not call how he is doing a success. His ignorance of the world stage has stopped him form gaining a ton of traction when there was plenty to grab. The fact that the media was giving him the interviews he got when he showed that ignorance shows that the media was begging for another candidate.

    29. Re:Honestly... by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      It's a loaded question whether the word is admire or respect, because both can be defined in such a way as to paint you in a bad light should you choose any human being. The only two choices that came to my mind when I heard this story were the newest pope, the Dalai Lama, and Aung San Suu Kyi, none of which I could remember the names of on the spot. And even if I did recall their names odds are that they've said or done something reprehensible that'd soon be shoved in my face. Hell the safest answer to that question would probably be "Putin, because you have to respect venomous snakes unless you fancy getting bit."

    30. Re:Honestly... by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      And thus, I'm no longer sure it would have been a good thing to have him on stage at the debates. If he were asked the wrong question, it would make 3rd parties even more fringe and unrealistic than they already seem to most people.

      That's a fair point. On the other hand, since he is a libertarian, and most world leaders are decidedly not, it's sort of understandable to not have a foreign politician he admires. He should have come up with something later, or - like you said - move the question to a non-politician - but it's not as bad as all that.

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  6. No one else left by dwsobw · · Score: 1

    His endorsement seems to be mainly based on that there is no one else left. He should have endorsed Jill_Stein, at least she might know someone that is not from her state ...

  7. I loved colossal cave adventure! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    web CRANK endorses political KOOK

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  8. Are you really that stupid? by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You aren't really able to understand what he's saying at all, are you?

    Hint: He hasn't actually once changed who he is supporting or who he is saying you should support. This time is no different.

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    1. Re:Are you really that stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This exactly. He explained it in a Stephan Molyneux interview. He was getting threats for supporting Trump so he changed it and the threats stopped. He lives in the People's Republic of the Bay Area where it is dangerous to health and property to support Trump. His fans know who he supports but it threw the stupid people off the trail.

    2. Re:Are you really that stupid? by fnj · · Score: 1

      He hasn't actually once changed who he is supporting

      What part of QUOTE "But recently I switched my endorsement to Trump" UNQUOTE, and QUOTE "Why I Endorse Gary Johnson" UNQUOTE do you not understand, chump?

    3. Re:Are you really that stupid? by quantaman · · Score: 2

      This exactly. He explained it in a Stephan Molyneux interview. He was getting threats for supporting Trump so he changed it and the threats stopped. He lives in the People's Republic of the Bay Area where it is dangerous to health and property to support Trump. His fans know who he supports but it threw the stupid people off the trail.

      You don't really buy this to you? Absolutely no one bought Adams' endorsements of anyone but Trump. Just look at absolute lack out outrage from the Trump supporters at his blog when he "switched" his endorsement.

      I have no idea of people actually threatened Adams, or if those threats stopped at some point, but it has nothing to do with his fake endorsements.

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  9. Re:Extremely ignorant by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Knowing nothing more about them man than what you've posted, he still doesn't sound as bad as the R and D candidates.

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  10. He's not done yet! by scunc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since he's already endorsed Clinton, Trump, and Johnson, I look forward to Scott Adams' inevitable endorsement of Jill Stein. One of the most important things about being a "Master Persuader" is saying enough conflicting bullshit that you can point back to the time you got it right!
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    1. Re:He's not done yet! by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Since he's already endorsed Clinton, Trump, and Johnson, I look forward to Scott Adams' inevitable endorsement of Jill Stein. One of the most important things about being a "Master Persuader" is saying enough conflicting bullshit that you can point back to the time you got it right!

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      Ahhh, but that's what the Certified Genius Master Persuader Scott Adams wants you to think!

      You've fallen right into his trap! While you're playing checkers he and his six pack are playing 15th dimensional Go Chess!!

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    2. Re:He's not done yet! by Bookworm09 · · Score: 2

      Ahhh, but that's what the Certified Genius Master Persuader Scott Adams wants you to think!

      You've fallen right into his trap! While you're playing checkers he and his six pack are playing 15th dimensional Go Chess!!

      Man, I wish I had mod points for you. Reading his blog over the last few months has made it painfully clear what a narcissistic dipshit he really is. "Because I'm a hypnotist!!1", is his explanation of every stupid claim he makes. It's sad; I used to enjoy the Dilbert strip. They're mostly ruined for me now.

      Instead of being like the character Dilbert, he's more like a cross of the PHB and Dogbert.

  11. "Reality"? by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clinton supporters have been telling me for a few days that any visible support for Trump makes you a supporter of sex abuse. From a persuasion standpoint, that actually makes sense. If people see it that way, that's the reality you have to deal with. I choose to not be part of that reality...

    Trump has a LONG and well documented history of misogynistic and racist behavior. This is merely the latest in a long line of horrifying behavior by him with regard to women and minorities. The man has been blatantly campaigning by appealing to (mostly via lies) the most base tribal instincts of scared white males. I can understand if someone dislikes Hillary or if you like some third party candidate but to pretend that Trump's behavior is some kind of made up reality by the Clinton campaign is just idiotic.

    To be fair, Gary Johnson is a pot head who didn't know what Allepo was. I call that relatable.

    One person's relatable is another person's ignorant. I don't give a shit if the president is relatable. Honestly I haven't seen a good one that was. I care if they are competent and I care that their political views don't diverge too far from my own. They don't have to be nice but they can't be an asshole like Trump. If Gary Johnson doesn't have a clue about international affairs (which accounts for about 2/3 of the job of the president) then I don't really think he's cut out for the job.

    1. Re:"Reality"? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Funny

      I care if they are competent

      Clearly you can't choose the candidate on the left. But you must have known this ...

      Trump has a LONG and well documented history of misogynistic and racist behavior.

      So clearly you can't choose the candidate on the right.

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    2. Re:"Reality"? by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      appealing to (mostly via lies) the most base tribal instincts of scared white males

      It's true white males are gods who never should fear anything, unlike helpless female and brown creatures kneeling before them, but sometimes God feels like taking a piss.

    3. Re:"Reality"? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Was that the type of satire Adams has been producing lately?

    4. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      What did I say that made you think I was not being honest? Hillary has a history of racism and sexism. Trump has a history of racism and sexism. Trump opposes TPP, Hillary is for it, and 80% of Central American women and girls are raped during their illegal border crossing, so somebody's doing the raping.

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    5. Re:"Reality"? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      I care if they are competent

      Clearly you can't choose the candidate on the left. But you must have known this ...

      Sorry, but regardless of anyone's (dis)like for Clinton, she is - by definition - "competent" to be President:

      com pe tent /kämpdnt/
      adjective

      having the necessary ability, knowledge, or skill to do something successfully.

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    6. Re:"Reality"? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Name her top three successes she has had as Senator or Secretary of State. Don't look them up, just name the first three off the top of your head?

      I won't hold my breath. I really don't think "Competent" is the word you're looking for. She lacks ability and skill. Knowledge isn't enough.

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    7. Re:"Reality"? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      What did I say that made you think I was not being honest?

      I think it was the "has screamed about Jews and retarded kids" that tainted my impression of your post - there are a lot of things I am unhappy about in regard to the Clinton campaign - but her behaviour towards blacks, jews and "retarded kids" really hasn't been on my radar. I guess a the media elites have been keeping that information away from me. Wait - I thought the media elites were jews? Or have I mis-remembered?

      I am completely unclear how rape rates for illegal border crossers enters into either candidate's philosophy or policy statements - surely you are not saying that one or both of them is "pro-rape-of-illegal-border-crossers"? Wasn't the narrative that the crossers were themselves rapists?

      I guess I'm just not well enough informed.

    8. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      I think it was the "has screamed about Jews and retarded kids" that tainted my impression of your post - there are a lot of things I am unhappy about in regard to the Clinton campaign - but her behaviour towards blacks, jews and "retarded kids" really hasn't been on my radar.

      In books written by former Clinton associates she's been quoted as using racial/ethic epithets against Jewish and black colleagues, and during a White House Easter Egg hunt for handicapped kids she complained about the "retarded kids" still on the lawn.

      Shocking, a 68 year old white lady is a little bit racist.

      I don't give a shit about racism, but apparently some people vote based on that. Personally if I were a white supremacist I'd be voting for Clinton. She'll lock up the super predators and her welfare programs would keep the darkies confined to section 8 housing. If Trump gets in and brings back jobs and drive up wages, the negroes might be able to get jobs and move to the suburbs and come for da white wimminz. Can't have that! Hillary 2016 if you want to keep the suburbs white.

      I am completely unclear how rape rates for illegal border crossers enters into either candidate's philosophy or policy statements - surely you are not saying that one or both of them is "pro-rape-of-illegal-border-crossers"? Wasn't the narrative that the crossers were themselves rapists?

      Trump wants to build a wall and enforce the border. If people aren't crossing illegally then there's no victims for the coyotes to rape. So a Trump presidency results in less rape. But Hillary's not going to do anything to change the situation because her party wants those rape anchor babies as future democratic voters and her donors want the cheap, exploitable slave labor to keep coming, so if you're a pro-rape voter then Hillary's your gal.

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    9. Re:"Reality"? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Even if what you imply is true, the definition for competent uses the word "or" so, again, by definition, contrary to your assertion, knowledge is enough. From a practical point we should demand more, but even just that would be more than her (main) opponent has to offer. US politics is in a sad place - not just the presidential race, but the contents of House and Senate as well.

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    10. Re:"Reality"? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Trump wants to build a wall and enforce the border. If people aren't crossing illegally then there's no victims for the coyotes to rape. So a Trump presidency results in less rape. But Hillary's not going to do anything to change the situation because her party wants those rape anchor babies as future democratic voters and her donors want the cheap, exploitable slave labor to keep coming, so if you're a pro-rape voter then Hillary's your gal.

      Do you really think this way or is this just a rhetorical tool? The party "wants those rape anchor babies as future democratic voters"? With everyone carrying cell phones I would have thought that some disgruntled employee or other "heroic American" would have gotten some video of the evil overloards coordinating their nefarious plans.

      I like a good conspiricy myself, but my personal experience with a vast number of people of all political stripes and at a wide range of "political power" indicates that virtually none of them would be capable of keeping that sort of thing under wraps, and besides their behaviour is perfectly well explained by the combination of overly-rigid ideology, wishful thinking, difficulty of learning from previous situations, and short-term thinking all encouraged by a poorly designed incentive system.

      Maybe I am an outlier in this type of situation, but I am more likely to pay attention to someone who says: "My opponent may have the best of intentions in wanting to have an outcome of "A", but even if they do manage to do "A" their proposed policy will result in the negative "B", which is much to high a cost." rather than someone who says: "My opponent, who is basically Satan by the way, is trying to to "B" because they are evil (and always have been, they kick dogs don't you know) and any talk they might have about caring about "A" is total fabrication."

    11. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Why do you think no one has bothered to do anything about illegal immigration for 30 years?

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    12. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      He literally sued to force an all-white country club to allow blacks and Jews into it.

      No, he owned the club and decreed that blacks and Jews would be allowed in, when all the other fancy clubs in Palm Beach forbade them.

      Regardless, I think arguing over racism and sexism is stupid. Do they still exist in America? Of course. Racism and sexism will exist as long as humans exist. But when I rank the problems facing the country, racism and sexism are so far down on the list they don't even register. The reason blacks don't have jobs isn't because of discrimination, it's because there are no jobs. A president who's a member of the KKK but who brings jobs back to America will do more for black poverty than the reincarnation of MLK but who keeps importing Mexican slave labor and exporting jobs.

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    13. Re:"Reality"? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      So, to be competent you just need to claim one of the three? She has the knowledge but completely lacks the skills (proven).

      Or if you're just being pedantic, I would suggest to you that it takes all three, being rough synonyms of each other. So, knowledge without skill or ability is like having someone reading a Medical Book on brain surgery, thinking they can be a brain surgeon.

      She has neither necessary skill or abilty (proven) even if she has the knowledge (debatable, with all her "I don't remember" moments during depositions).

      I Noticed you can't (or didn't) name three accomplishments as Secretary of State. Not that I am a supporter of Trump, but he is more qualified than a Junior Senator from Illinois was just 8 years ago. I didn't think we could have a worse candidate that BHO was 8 years ago, but somehow, we managed to pull it off with two that are absolutely worse.

      Lastly, if everyone who admits that Trump and Clinton are gawd awful candidates actually voted for Johnson, he would win ... in a landslide.

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    14. Re:"Reality"? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      That word you keep using, "presidential", I do not think it means what you think it does.

    15. Re:"Reality"? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      You (and you ilk) like to throw the word "proven" about a lot, but it's truly just opinion. Trump has the same problem confusing truth, lies and facts and, apparently, seriously does not know how video tape works. However, he has an obvious "tell" when lying - his mouth is moving. To be sure, Clinton has serious issues too, but Trump may actually be the least qualified person to be President (or, obviously, a casino owner) - ever.

      To be serious, main complaints I have about Trump, other than his racism, sexism, misogyny, etc..., and his candidacy are (a) his apparent lack of understanding of how the government works - specifically the three branches and states vs federal rights/responsibilities and (b) his complete lack of *any* specifics or rational specifics. Simply spouting words like: best, greatest, phenomenal, huge, etc... are not enough.

      Lastly, if everyone who admits that Trump and Clinton are gawd awful candidates actually voted for Johnson, he would win ... in a landslide.

      Granted, but I'm not sure that would actually be a good thing - Gary's a really nice guy, but an idiot. But... better than Jill Stein.

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    16. Re:"Reality"? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Why do you think no one has bothered to do anything about illegal immigration for 30 years?

      Your question is silly. It assumes the truth of the statement "no one has bothered" when there are lots and lots of people who have "bothered". Thus any answer to the question as stated is pointless.

      There are lots of answers to related, but different questions: "Why do you think no one has been able to do anything about illegal immigration for 30 years?" or "Why has it been so difficult to address the problem of illegal immigration?" or "Why has action 'A' not fixed this issue 'B'?"

      Answers to these types of questions are at least in priciple possible - I doubt any of them hing on people actually planning that "rape babies" will become future voters. Generally, the answers hinge on the difficulty in getting enough people to decided on the best solution to a difficult problem in a real world where competing priorities have vastly different importances for different people across a diverse population.

      [Glad I re-read my posting before submitting - at first I had "answers to elated questions..." which is kind of funny. Hopefull all the other typos I missed are equally amusing.]

    17. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      The "rape babies" part was facetious. But yes, the democrats don't want to do anything about immigration legal or otherwise because ~70% of immigrants vote Democrat. It's cultural...both major Mexican parties are socialist. The Republicans don't do anything about it because their donors like the cheap labor.

      Ask a democrat how excited they are that demographic changes will eventually give them a permanent majority. They're thrilled. Fuck whitey. They did it on purpose...see the Immigration Act of 1965. Tell a non-Trump Republican we should deport the illegals and they'll ask "but who'll pick the tomatoes?" It doesn't take a conspiracy when it's already in the interests of all the political ideologues and the owner class.

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    18. Re:"Reality"? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      It doesn't take a conspiracy when it's already in the interests of all the political ideologues and the owner class.

      That I can agree with. I probably think that the effect is more subtle than you do - ecconomic and other factors coloring the perception of the people enough so that they interpret the issues in a way different from myself rather than the clear "need those workers" narrative. I do wonder what preconceptions color my own views.

      I wonder if it would be useful to personally approach these types of issues by first trying to write down some if-then types of statements (If illegal immigration is more than x by this measure y than it is worth value $z to address), and then look at the data and see what my opinion on actions should be.

    19. Re:"Reality"? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Depends on how you weight human and economic costs. There's also the issue of the uncontrolled border being a conduit for drugs, guns, and sex trafficking. So here are the problems with illegal immigration across the Mexican border (there's also illegal immigration from overstayed visas, but that doesn't have anything to do with guns and drugs):

      1. Illegal immigrants are exploited by US businesses for cheap labor. They are denied the protections of our labor laws, and the threat of deportation keeps them compliant. It's slavery with extra steps.

      2. Some illegal immigrants commit crimes against American citizens. If the government were doing its job and enforcing the border, this wouldn't happen, and people like Jamiel Shaw's son would still be alive. This mostly effects poor and minority citizens who cannot afford to move out of the cheap neighborhoods when the illegals move in. And the Mexican gangs are essentially ethnically cleansing black neighborhoods. These days Compton is 60% latino. There's other political groups that want this ignored, like La Raza and the Aztlan Reconquista.

      3. 80% of Central American women and girls are raped during their illegal border crossing. If the border were controlled they would either stay home and not be raped, or would be entering legally with a work visa and be protected by border patrol officials and not raped.

      4. The black market in the US for drugs (and Mexico for guns) enriches monsters like the Zetas. These people are the closet thing to devils on earth. They skin people alive and cut off their heads and hands. Stopping or slowing the flow of contraband across the border would starve them of the money they need to operate.

      5. The US is suffering from a heroin epidemic, and that heroin is coming from Mexico. Yes, it would be great to treat addiction as a medical problem, but that's an awful lot easier when you can't buy heroin for $10 on any street corner in New Hampshire.

      6. The cost to the taxpayer of services for illegal immigrants is over $110 billion each year, which makes a wall and border enforcement a much cheaper option.

      7. For some reason, immigrants don't seem to care much about limited constitutional government and individual liberty. They often times come from authoritarian cultures and vote for whoever promises to give them the most stuff. This makes severe demographic shift an existential problem for the Republic. Mass immigration is a war against the middle class by the plutocrats using the poor immigrants as pawns. If eventually everyone is voting on racial lines instead of ideological lines then our future is Brazil. Corrupt banana republic.

      But hey, we get cheap tomatoes, and nobody calls you racist, so all the blood, exploitation, rape, and death of liberty is worth it, right?

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    20. Re:"Reality"? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      That really depends on what you consider a successful job as POTUS to be. By some people's metrics, she is not competent to be POTUS.

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  12. Re:Extremely ignorant by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    And isn't it sad that this STILL makes him more suitable than Clinton and Trump combined?

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  13. Who cares? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And why has /. gotten into the business of tracking who is endorsing whom?

    1. Re:Who cares? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I am proud to announce that I am endorsing Becky With The Good Hair for president!

  14. Cynicism by bluegutang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scott Adams is a compulsive cynic, who seems incapable of having a sincere, non-sarcastic thought. This cynicism is what makes his comics so entertaining, but it makes him badly equipped to comment thoughtfully on the real world.

    1. Re:Cynicism by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      it makes him badly equipped to comment thoughtfully on the real world

      This is the same "real world" that presents us two completely deplorable choices for President.

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    2. Re:Cynicism by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      Depends what you mean by "comment".

      It takes very little brains to be a critic as insightful as Adams. His talent is that he can make his pedestrian insights funny, which is indeed entertaining and laudable in context, but of negligible positive value beyond the sphere of entertainment.

      What is really valuable in the real world is a person who can point to a direction where a useful enough solution may lie, and express reasons for going that way in understandable language, even if that solution will inevitably be imperfect and open to criticism. Adams is too cynical to even make an attempt.

      tl;dr -- whining like Adams is easy; making an effort to solve a hard problem is hard; Adams never really tries.

  15. Re:Extremely ignorant by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gary Johnson isn't aware of the world outside of the US's borders. He has repeatedly flubbed names of leaders and nations. And I'm skeptical if he could find the Middle East on a map.

    BUT he can totally nail Middle Earth!

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  16. Oh, Good! by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2

    I'll make note of that. But I'm really waiting to hear from the guy who draws "Garfield." I usually don't make any kind of meaningful decision until I know what he thinks about it.

    1. Re:Oh, Good! by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      Thbbbt!

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  17. Now we know who pointy-haired boss is based on by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Turns out it was a self caricature.

  18. A vote for Hillary validates DNC tactics by drnb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind.

    Why would one make up their mind during the silly season of the primaries where both major candidates lie to their extreme base to get the nomination?

    Why would one make up their mind prior to the debates where the candidates are not in scripted choreographed settings for the first time?

    You sound like someone who is loyal to political party, meaning you not Adams are part of the problem if that is the case. People who are loyal to a party are irrelevant, their party can ignore them since they already have their vote, the other party can ignore them since they can not obtain their vote. Party loyalty enable crap candidates like Clinton and Trump.

    Secondarily a for vote Hillary validates all the BS the DNC pulled on Bernie. The DNC and Hillary don't care if the revelations of their actions embarrass them, they only care if they win. If Hillary wins everything she and the DNC did to Bernie and his supporters become validated, successful, a good tactic. They are counting on Bernie supporters to be good little Democrats, to bitch and moan and then vote for the Democratic party. The ends justify the means to Hillary, her former DNC chair VP, the recently "fired" DNC chair working for the campaign and on a path to a White House position, etc.

    Just because Bernie sold out to protect his Senate seat doesn't mean the revolution has to die. Vote for anyone other than Hillary or you are green lighting a repeat of her tactics.

  19. Don't forget by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 3, Informative

    Adams endorsed Clinoton because he didn't want to get beat up by her supporters.

    It is interesting how many posters including the submittor and EditorDavid don't have a clue.

    1. Re:Don't forget by Bookworm09 · · Score: 1

      Adams endorsed Clinoton because he didn't want to get beat up by her supporters.

      It is interesting how many posters including the submittor and EditorDavid don't have a clue.

      So he claims. And it may very well be true; I don't know. But here's the problem. If you read his blog you will see he has said numerous times that "the truth doesn't matter", in the context of declaring Trump a "persuasion genius". The fact that Trump lies so much that he manages to make Hillary Clinton look honest by comparison (which is no mean feat) doesn't seem to bother Adams in the slightest. The inescapable conclusion is that Adams will blatantly and gleefully lie his ass off to get what he wants. Just like he admires Trump for doing. Genius "master persuaders" like Trump clearly don't need to be constrained by trifling details like facts. And if you disagree with him, he will dismiss you as just not being a genius like he is.

  20. Right-Wing Humor by dcollins · · Score: 1

    "An unfunny man's idea of what a funny person sounds like"

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  21. Honesty and integrity most important traits by drnb · · Score: 1

    His endorsement seems to be mainly based on that there is no one else left. He should have endorsed Jill_Stein, at least she might know someone that is not from her state ...

    You can learn the names of other people pretty quickly, as needed. Honesty and integrity are pretty much set by the time one reaches a Presidential age. Some consider the later more important. The President is not a source of facts, he/she is a consumer of facts from the roomful of expert advisors surround him/her.

    1. Re:Honesty and integrity most important traits by virtig01 · · Score: 1

      This. For all the hoots and hollers after "what is Aleppo?", it shows that the guy is honest. I prefer a president that admits what he doesn't know, instead of trying to dodge it. Or invoking Douglas MacArthur.

  22. Re:Extremely ignorant by PackMan97 · · Score: 1

    Which means he doesn't admire and want to be like them (Trump & Putin) and it also means they haven't been bought and paid for by them (Clinton and anyone that has given money to the Clinton Foundation).

  23. Scott Adams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scott... the man who uses sock puppets to brag about how he has a "certified genius IQ".
    Scott... the man who argues that facts don't matter
    Scott... who lies whenever it suits his purposes.

    Scott is an embarrassing twat of a human being. He brags about being a mater persuader yet was passed over for promotions and more recently dumped by his wife.

    When he started getting called out for his hypocrisy on his blog, he shut down comments citing "racism". But the fact is that he was getting called out left and right for his stupidity and just couldn't take it so shut down dissent.

    He is a failure of a human being who happened to get lucky with a cartoon.

    1. Re:Scott Adams by SolemnLord · · Score: 1

      Scott... the man who uses sock puppets to brag about how he has a "certified genius IQ".

      It's irrelevant to the greater discussion but worth pointing out that all of his sock puppets get found out, on average, immediately after their very first post.

    2. Re:Scott Adams by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Eh, he's right about facts not mattering. People aren't rational. We make emotional decisions and then rationalize them.

      And as for his comments section that was a good move. I used to read it and there was good discussion there but then it started getting brigaded by stormfront. Straight-up Hitler-loving white power shit. Closing that down was a good idea.

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    3. Re:Scott Adams by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      What does that make you?

    4. Re:Scott Adams by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      It would make him a better person if he hypnotized his wife to keep having sex with him?

    5. Re:Scott Adams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh! By sock puppets you mean fake commenters. HA! When I read the parent post I thought he did some douchy Vaudeville act with sock puppets where he was claiming to be a certified genius. I was thinking of looking up the video... These days it would probably make it as a TED talk.

    6. Re:Scott Adams by quantaman · · Score: 1

      When he started getting called out for his hypocrisy on his blog, he shut down comments citing "racism". But the fact is that he was getting called out left and right for his stupidity and just couldn't take it so shut down dissent.

      When did this happen?

      During the primaries I tried leaving comments on his blog a few times just to see how Trump supporters dealt with some of the more obvious lies.

      Basically the moment you posted the mildest criticism of Trump you'd get a bunch of defenders spewing really racist stuff and proudly identifying as "white nationalists". These folks experienced absolutely no pushback from the other Trump supporters.

      I was really curious how Adams himself felt about his comment board, because it was a very nasty place.

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  24. sucumb to the political side, slashdot has by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Originally, there was almost no politics. There was politics on tech issues. Then there was the hacking of Hillary's email. Now, this is a tech cartoonist changing his political stance... I take it back, this is just as political us Lucky Palmer being uncovered as supporting Trump memes. I don't want to see stories this political on slashdot, but there is no good enough alternative.

  25. Re:Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gary Johnson isn't aware of the world outside of the US's borders. He has repeatedly flubbed names of leaders and nations. And I'm skeptical if he could find the Middle East on a map.

    The President is not a quiz show contestant. A President consumes facts and information from the roomful of expert advisers. A President mostly needs honesty and integrity, those traits allow for better processing of the information.

    Hillary knew lots of names, met many leaders as First Lady and visited many places. Look how terribly she performed as Secretary of State; relations with Russia, state of Iraq, Libya, Syria; Iranian nuclear deal; TPP; etc.

  26. Re:Extremely ignorant by hierofalcon · · Score: 1

    Facts can be learned. Mr. Johnson is a reasonably smart guy and if he finds the need to learn specifics about transient world leaders, I'm sure he can do so.

    Character is what you bring with you over a lifetime. You can't fake it for long. From what the press has actually produced on this front compared to the two mainstream candidates, Mr. Johnson wins hands down.

  27. Re:How is this news for nerds? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I work in Public Education, and saying it can't be improved by competition the reason why it is failing in so many places. You can spend all the money in the world on "Tech Toys", but it only obfuscates what some of us already know, some teachers just suck. And there are enough of them that you can't dodge all the raindrops.

    When I walk into a classroom, and the teacher has Ricki Lake on the TV for the class, and is reading a newspaper, and there is nothing I or anyone else can do (like fire the teacher), the system is already been destroyed from within. The public schools aren't educating kids, they are indoctrinating them. We are more concerned with "safe zones" and "anti-bullying" (which doesn't stop bullying, but is used to dodge lawsuits) than if the kids can read, write and do math.

    Our educational system is built on Industrial style schooling, and isn't about to change. We have one size fits all education in a world that is built on information age tools. Treating our kids like robots is the goal of our educational system, and there is almost nothing you can say to dissuade me from my view.

    We aren't building cogs for use in factories, why are we educating our kids that way? So, when you say Gary Johnson wants to destroy something that is already broken, you're not going to get any argument from me, it NEEDS to be destroyed. Fuck the Establishment Educational system. it is a dinosaur, 70 years out of date.

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  28. Adams too thick by epine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe you should learn what satire is jackass

    Satire—once the cynicism becomes too thick—is nothing more than a devious way of getting the reader to work four times as hard as normal, to ultimately decode the underlying message "look at meeeeee!"

  29. No, she's not fine by wonkavader · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really, she's not. And it's not because of all the trumped up crimes/lies/etc. They really don't matter.

    She's not fine because she's a warmonger and in the pocket of the financial industry. So in four, or ugh, EIGHT years we will emerge deeper in debt, more hated, and less financially secure. The 1% will make out like bandits under her and the economy will flounder even more, since no one but the ultra-rich have the money to spend on anything to keep the economy working. (She's the only major candidate, for example, who supports H-1Bs.)

    There are three kinds of states: Ones where Hillary will stomp Trump, ones which will vote him in just because he has an R next to his name no matter what, and ones where there's actually some sort of contest. If you're in either of the first two types of states, you need to vote for Johnson because your vote doesn't count unless you do, and it counts big time if you do.

    If you're a Republican, you need to send a message to your party that letting this kind of crap happen is unacceptable. You WILL leave if they pitch for racism and stupidity.

    If you're a Democrat, you need a to send a message to your party that you don't want a another Nixon-Republican pretending to be a Democrat. We've had one for eight years already. If they don't give you someone worth voting for, you WILL leave. (They currently think all the Bernie people will vote Clinton. Show them otherwise.)

    You might think you could do the same by voting Green or writing-in a candidate, but that won't get reported because the numbers will be too small. A 10% showing for Johnson will get him on the cover of just about all the remaining print media and scare the CRAP out of both the big parties.

    So there are a handful of states where it makes sense to vote for the Rep. or the Dem. But for all the other states, everyone who reads/thinks should vote for Johnson.

    It doesn't matter how bad Johnson is. I don't want him as president, but that doesn't matter. He is fit for purpose: to scare the parties into worrying about the electorate, which is something they generally don't give a damn about. If you want an acceptable Republican or Democrat candidate in the next election, you need to vote for Johnson.

    1. Re:No, she's not fine by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mod up. If you believe Gary Johnson has no shot, even better to vote for him knowing you won't have to live with him as president. But it will sure send a message to the Republican and Democratic leadership that their shit has gotten to stinky for you to continue to support. Send a message to the major parties that they don't own your vote by default.

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    2. Re:No, she's not fine by number6x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't throw your vote away by voting for a Democrat or a Republican. They will simply ignore the voters and do whatever it is the sources of their largest campaign donors ask. Voting for a Democrat or a Republican is a wasted vote.

      Vote for third party candidates, or write in the name of a qualified person, or even a personal friend when a third party candidate is not running for a given office.

    3. Re:No, she's not fine by Hulfs · · Score: 1

      Remember back in '92 when Perot got 19% of the popular vote and everything changed?

      Yeah, me neither...because nothing changed about the party system then and it won't now either.

      I won't be voting for either major party candidate (or Gary Johnson) simply because I refuse to lend voting support to any of them - vote your conscience. If you actually agree with Gary Johnson, then vote for him. If you actually support Hillary, vote for her.

    4. Re:No, she's not fine by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I would point out that only in select states are write in votes counted. Check your local laws.

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    5. Re:No, she's not fine by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I do actually agree with Gary. I also was pretty young back in '92, but I do seem to recall that Bill got elected and worked across the aisle and actually managed to balance a budget, which probably wouldn't have even been discussed in DC had it not been for Perot...

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    6. Re:No, she's not fine by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      No you send a message to the Republican party if you are liberal that someone like Trump is ok for future nominations. If you lean conservative you send a message that ethics do not matter for future candidates.

      Yes Hillary has problems. But compared TO TRUMP??! There is no contest.

      The liberals did the same thing in 1968 and opposed LBJ and split the democratic party as too far to the right. Guess what? We got NIXON who was far worse.

      You want to send a message? Then vote in the primaries. It is too late now as all you do is help someone who is more opposed to your views. Hillary is hte only competent person even if she is corrupt. If you did not vote for Sanders if you are a Democrat you have yourself to blame.

    7. Re:No, she's not fine by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      No you send a message to the Republican party if you are liberal that someone like Trump is ok for future nominations. If you lean conservative you send a message that ethics do not matter for future candidates.

      Yes Hillary has problems. But compared TO TRUMP??! There is no contest.

      There is. The first paragraph of the parent's post was accurate and is not what I want. Why on earth would I vote for this:

      She's not fine because she's a warmonger and in the pocket of the financial industry. So in four, or ugh, EIGHT years we will emerge deeper in debt, more hated, and less financially secure. The 1% will make out like bandits under her and the economy will flounder even more, since no one but the ultra-rich have the money to spend on anything to keep the economy working. (She's the only major candidate, for example, who supports H-1Bs.)

      The liberals did the same thing in 1968 and opposed LBJ and split the democratic party as too far to the right. Guess what? We got NIXON who was far worse.

      How was Nixon far worse than the warmonger LBJ? By modern political standards, Nixon's policies were extremely liberal.

      Google Massacre at Penn State? Nixon would fund whole teams of union thugs and police to shoot and beat down protesters. Right wing Chuck Holsen did a lot of dirty work.

      Nixon's reversal of civil rights? Nixon expanded the war into Cambodia and got Pol Potts to kills millions and actually spread communism! Yes he was worse than LBJ

    8. Re:No, she's not fine by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Ethics? Are you joking? Clinton has her own little foundation and cabal of Middle East strongmen feeding her coffers. Cheney at least made the appearance of fully divesting himself from his business interests.

      The main complaints about Trump with any substance are things where the incoming First Lady makes Trump look like an amateur.

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    9. Re:No, she's not fine by baerd · · Score: 1

      Be careful what you ask for, this is Brexit style voting which can go awry. Although I actually don't think Johnson would be as bad as either of the main candidates, so it would be fine if he won and actually more of a middle finger to the established parties awful choices. Just be aware what happens when you vote for someone or something you don't think can win to make a point: sometimes they do win.

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    10. Re:No, she's not fine by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      How in the heck did you get that from what was written?

      The point was, explicitly stated, that if you're not in a battleground state, vote for someone else.

      If you're in a battleground state, you MAY have a harder decision.

      But if you're in Illinois like I am? It doesn't matter who you vote for, Hillary is going to win. Even if she's losing, Rahm will GOTZV (Get Out The Zombie Vote) in Chicago and she'll win. Guaranfuckingteed Illinois will go to Clinton.

      I'm voting for Johnson, and I would be even if I was in Florida or Ohio. Because I'm not eating any more shit sandwiches. My vote is mine, it isn't Donald's, and it isn't Hillary's and it isn't yours.

      Everyone always assumes that whoever they're talking to agrees with them. If you like Hillary, you assume I'd vote for her if I didn't vote for Johnson. If you like Trump, you assume I'd vote for him if I wasn't voting for Johnson.

      Screw that. I change my mind daily on which one I think is worse. Right now, just at the minute, I think the crazy pussy-grabber is worse than the lying influence-peddler. Might change my mind tomorrow after the next batch of emails get digested.

      Since I only get one vote, the only sane, honest, trustworthy, decent human being in the race is getting my vote, even though he honestly probably will not win, and I will sleep perfectly fine no matter whether Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich wins, because I voted for an actually good person who honestly wants to the best thing for the country.

      And who knows, maybe he will.

      In my traditionally strongly GOP county - many county races don't even have a Democrat - I've seen more Johnson yard signs than Trump yard signs. So who knows. Maybe he'll surprise us all. I sure hope so.

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    11. Re:No, she's not fine by number6x · · Score: 1

      Thank you. That is informative.

    12. Re:No, she's not fine by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Or write a candidate in.

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    13. Re:No, she's not fine by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      See reference here: https://slashdot.org/comments....

      Your local laws may make that an option that doesn't get counted:

      Currently, 43 States allow Write In Ballots for President of the United States. Most States require a candidate to register, however; Vermont, Wyoming, Oregon, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Iowa, Delaware, and Alabama do not require registration.

      If your write in is for a candidate that isn't registered, it gets thrown in the trash. Sorry Mickey Mouse, you're not winning this year.

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    14. Re:No, she's not fine by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      Remember back in '92 when Perot got 19% of the popular vote and everything changed?

      Indeed. He couldn't even repeat his success (despite having actually formed a party) in '96.

      Or when Wallace got a significant number of electoral votes in '68.

      In both cases, 1) lots of people were pissed, and 2) there was much talk of a viable third party. There was even some of that talk in 2000 (before the election - after it, all anyone could talk about was who had actually won) of that with the Greens, though in the end Nader & LaDuke only managed a bit less than 3m votes (an order of magnitude less than Perot in '92).

      The two-party system is not currently threatened by the little parties, and they know it. The little parties don't even have much of a role as spoilers; they tend to draw too little, and too evenly, to significantly affect the outcome. The Greens might have cost Gore the election in 2000, but that thesis is controversial, and if they did, it's a rare event indeed.

      So even if 20% of the popular vote did go to Gary "What's a leppo?" Johnson, it would have to be very disproportionately drawn from one side or the other to make the Big Two take notice. They have more to lose by offending their core donors and constituencies than by ignoring Libertarians.

  30. Re:Extremely ignorant by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Problem is he's pro-TPP. I can't vote for anybody who supports the TPP.

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  31. Re:Extremely ignorant by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Without knowing anything at all about him, I can tell you he's a smarter option than Trump.

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  32. Re:Ugh. by kwerle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I decided a long time ago not to pay too much attention to art creators' opinions on much of anything. Mostly this applies to music. Turns out a lot of metal band members are idiots and/or aholes. But I do like the music. When I go to a restaurant I don't ask who the chef is voting for. Same when I look at art (I don't really go for political art).
    Dilbert is funny as hell. The recent 'fire the bottom 10%' riff could have been taken from the company I work for. I'll continue enjoying the strip. But I won't start going to the blog for voting advice.

  33. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 2

    So anything not pro-Clinton is anti-Clinton?

  34. Re:Ugh. by fnj · · Score: 1

    Adams is a quite witty comic strip creator, and that is about the end of his intellect. Anyone with such a vacuum between his ears as to need Adams' input to decide where he stands on issues that matter, or put any stock in that input, is a fool. But the majority of citizens are fools.

  35. Re:Ugh. by RonVNX · · Score: 1

    I find when I stop supporting artists who support things I find objectionable, that while they surely don't miss me, the feeling is mutual. I would definitely stop eating at restaurants that were supporting Trump. It tells me a lot about them and their judgment and how likely I am to either be cheated or food-poisoned.

  36. Re:Extremely ignorant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Facts can be learned. Mr. Johnson is a reasonably smart guy

    He sure doesn't give very much evidence for that assertion.

    and if he finds the need to learn specifics about transient world leaders, I'm sure he can do so.

    He's fucking running for the job of president. That really, really ought to be enough reason for him to learn who is leading other countries.

    Basically, what I see from his attitude is that he doesn't think there's any chance that he would get the job, so there's no point in bothering to learn even the basically rudiments of what he would need to know for the job.

  37. Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Gary Johnson's qualifications don't matter because there is a 0.000000% chance he'll be elected. I'm marking his name on my ballot because that's how I can tell the Rs & Ds "nope, gotta do better next time if you want my vote". Suppose the Libertarians get 10% of the vote, which seems likely. Next election, the Rs and Ds, if they are smart, will want some of that 10%, so they'll look at the Libertarian platform and consider adopting some of the positions that make sense.

    Johnson absolutely will not be elected, but a vote for him sends a message to the major parties. Maybe in the future some Libertarian presidential candidate will actually be in the running, but not this time.

    1. Re:Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by j-beda · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Johnson absolutely will not be elected, but a vote for him sends a message to the major parties. Maybe in the future some Libertarian presidential candidate will actually be in the running, but not this time.

      Oh to have a ranked ballot system where we could choose whoever we wanted as 1st, and then go down the list (of more and more stinkyness) until we got to the D/R choices and could select them based on whatever small differences we may seem them to have.

      I can dream.

    2. Re:Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      No, the House can't pick "anyone", they may only choose from the top 3 electoral college vote getters for President. From the 12th amendment, "The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."

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    3. Re:Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1
      There's actually a non-zero chance of him winning a hell of a lot more than NM.

      Possibly AZ, UT, NV, CO, a couple other western states I'm forgetting. Maybe MN if the world goes a little crazy.

      Meanwhile Bill Weld is hanging out in the NE going at places like Vermont and Maine that have no great love for either Trump or Clinton.

      Is it likely for Johnson to win? No. Is he making the definition of "swing state" a lot more interesting this year? Oh yeah.

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    4. Re:Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Do more than dream: get off your ass and start petitioning your representatives in your state legislature to introduce legislation or a state constitutional amendment to change the way your state counts the votes for elector appointments.

      Yeah, I could do more.

      Here is an advocacy group for voting reform with info about ranked choice voting in the USA:

      http://www.fairvote.org/rcv_in...

    5. Re:Doesn't matter, he's "none of the above" by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      In theory, they could still vote Gary Johnson. If Hilary get 269, Trump gets 269, and Johnson gets 1, then he's #3 and eligible.

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  38. Handy List of 3rd Party Candidates by Jack9 · · Score: 3, Informative
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  39. Re:Extremely ignorant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hillary knew lots of names, met many leaders as First Lady and visited many places. Look how terribly she performed as Secretary of State; relations with Russia, state of Iraq, Libya, Syria; Iranian nuclear deal; TPP; etc.

    Looks good to me!

  40. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have been posting here since back when Slashdot was Rob Malda's blog. Then, the politics of the posters, where discernible, was decidedly extremely left wing. But there were not that many posts on politics. There were, however, a lot of posts on Buffy the Vampire Slayer...

    But there was also a lot of activity, period. Every day, numerous stories spawned 500, 600, 700 posts, easily. And these were stories about the latest tweaks on the linux kernel, the merits of one spreadsheet or another, the latest laptop specs, or -- of course -- Buffy.

    But now it's not Just Some Guy's Blog anymore, it's gotta make money for somebody. And that somebody who bought it got handed a bag of snakes, because operating a "community website" in this post-Facebook web world is a job for a buggy-whip manufacturer. So, yeah, the editors obviously got a mandate to do whatever they can to drive traffic/eyeballs/impressions or whatever web marketers are driving these these days, And Politics stories -- especially in this End Of Days Election Season we are going through -- do that.

    As far as an answer to the question, "Where have all the Slashdot Lefties from the 90's gone?" I suppose the answer is either [a] they're still here but they've all grown up and become Righties, [b] fled to their online safespaces and echo chambers because engaging in a level exchange of ideas is anathema to them, or [c] a little of both.

  41. As for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm voting for Ratbert!

    1. Re:As for me... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree. An immobilized government is not going to take away and additional freedoms, which is the best we can hope for.

      WALLY 2016!

    2. Re:As for me... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I'm fine w/ Dogbert.

    3. Re:As for me... by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Come on scro, don't be a pussy. Vote Camacho.

    4. Re: As for me... by KeensMustard · · Score: 1
      Of course he is also planning to launch a nuclear strike at Aleppo.

      Might be other places he's contemplating as well. Too late for condemnation from from congress once those devices go critical.

    5. Re: As for me... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Good! Nuke them until they glow, then shoot them in the dark!

    6. Re: As for me... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Sorry dude. I wasn't serious about nuking them, I just have a warped sense of humor. I hate to see the innocent suffer too.

    7. Re: As for me... by KeensMustard · · Score: 1

      So let me get this straight: You are comfortable with tens of thousands of kids, and hundreds of thousands of non-combatant adults being burnt to death in a nuclear conflagration for no reason?

  42. Re:Extremely ignorant by ranton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's your point? A lot of people feel like that's exactly the kind of president we need right now. There is a lot of stuff to rebuild within our own borders so we don't need to worry about how other people around the world are living their lives. We are not the world police.

    This is one example of how poorly educated most voters are. Foreign policy is one of the few parts of our government where the President has a great deal of control. With the exception of supreme court justices, foreign policy, and the military, all other talking points are mostly irrelevant since Congress is responsible for most domestic issues.

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  43. and quick to engage in personal attack by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 2

    Coming from someone hiding behind Anonymous Coward, your action speaks louder than your words.
    What I said about Adams is simple observation; he started out endorsing Clinton "for personal safety reason", followed by Trump and then now Johnson.
    Each time he wrap his endorsement in humorous reasoning (good read, by the way) but ultimately my reading of his endorsement explanation isn't intended to be taken as an endorsement. I do question if you've read through his blog entries.

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    1. Re:and quick to engage in personal attack by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      His endorsement is still for "personal safety reasons" and that's sad. It's far more troubling than anything that Trump has said or that has been said about Trump. It's the true death of liberty. It's like living in a fascist or communist state.

      People tend to project and they see Trump as Hitler.

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    2. Re: and quick to engage in personal attack by easyTree · · Score: 1

      It's like living in a fascist or communist state.

      Like?

    3. Re:and quick to engage in personal attack by tbannist · · Score: 1

      His endorsement is still for "personal safety reasons" and that's sad. It's far more troubling than anything that Trump has said or that has been said about Trump. It's the true death of liberty. It's like living in a fascist or communist state.

      It's not for "personal safety reasons" it's for "financial safety reasons" and it's exactly like living in a thriving free market state, because that's where he lives. Your claims to contrary seem to indicate a considerable level of delusion. You may want to talk to someone about that.

      People tend to project and they see Trump as Hitler.

      Trump's not Hitler, though he has advocated murdering the families of suspected terrorists, torturing suspected terrorists because "they deserve it anyways", and deporting 3.3 million Americans because they don't worship the correct religion. Since he wouldn't be able to deport that many people, he'd probably want to have them sent to special camps where they work to pay for the expense of the camps they have been exiled to, and it's anyone's guess what "final solution" President Trump would come up with for his unwanted guests. So, I'm saying that while Trump isn't Hitler, but he does kind of want to be like Hitler, just without the "bad press". It should also be noted that during this election campaign Trump has publicly praised Putin, Saddam Hussein, and Kim Jong Un for their power, ruthlessness and for killing their enemies in cold blood. Trumps respects the ability to off people who don't agree with you or would stand in the way of his unfettered abuse of power. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

      Having said that, we can be reasonably confident that no one else would let Trump do what he says he wants to do, but still what Trump has said he wants to do is actually pretty horrifying before we even start to consider that's he an old lecher who cheats on his wives, grabs women he doesn't know, and abused his position with beauty pageants so he could creep around backstage and watch the contestants while they were changing. And then there's the criminal investigations into his business dealings, the bribery of public officials, the fact that his Trump Foundation charity has actually spent money on Donald Trump himself (for example buying portraits of Trump to hang in Trump Hotels), and the probability that he's a serial tax evader and/or a compulsive liar about his net worth.

      But that's all optics, right? Supporting him doesn't really mean you're supporting a foolish, ignorant, cheating, lying, scoundrel who routinely abuses his power to get whatever he wants, right?

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    4. Re:and quick to engage in personal attack by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      Have you listened to Trump?

      He has the potential to be the next Hitler.

  44. you are bad at reading satire. by pezpunk · · Score: 1

    he is making a disingenuous argument to Clinton supporters to try to use their own logic (which he mistakenly finds specious) get THEM to vote Johnson.

    rest assured this dipshit is still voting for Trump.

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  45. Re:Extremely ignorant by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

    I disagree, I have no issue with pot smoking, but in excess, it dulls the brain. Gary Johnson has smoked waaaaayyyyyy toooooooo muuuuuccccccchhhhhh weeeeeeeeed. It is all the man thinks about.

  46. Is this just fantasy? by honestmonkey · · Score: 1

    Caught in a landslide...

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  47. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am still here.

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  48. i like it when people agree with me by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

    If I were the king of the world, I would use my infinite power to have every artist sign the following document at the beginning of their careers:

    "Politics and religion can be good subjects for art, but only if the artist abstains from picking sides, or at least effectively conceals their choice. Otherwise, it all just turns into a big giant circle-jerk."

  49. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by jcr · · Score: 2, Informative

    an inexplicable hate on for Ms. Clinton

    Inexplicable? Only if you haven't paid any attention to her crimes...

    -jcr

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  50. The misused apostrophe ruins his argument by Philosa · · Score: 1

    > I don’t know if any of the allegations against the Clinton’s are true,

    Against the Clinton's what, may I ask...

  51. WOW... I had no idea by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really had no idea about any of this.
    And yet, it still doesn't change the fact that I care zero about what he thinks about the presidential race.
    I don't care if he supports a re-animated Hitler for president. He makes a cartoon that I used to read and find very enjoyable. That is pretty much the end of Scott Adams' influence on my life.

    The opinions of celebrities or well-known people carry no more weight to me than if it were an average person on the street. It is unfortunate that this has turned into people's opinions of the candidates instead of talking about their positions on issues. What really makes me sad is that whoever is elected, a large portion of the country will really hate them. I just don't understand it.

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    1. Re:WOW... I had no idea by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      The opinions of celebrities or well-known people carry no more weight to me than if it were an average person on the street. It is unfortunate that this has turned into people's opinions of the candidates instead of talking about their positions on issues.

      While I agree with the general principle, there are obvious exceptions. For instance, the Surgeon General's views on smoking or a Nobel prize winner's views on their subject matter.

      And, just like a random blogger, Scott wrote thousands of pages about politics. Now, those were only noticed because he created Dilbert. But there is now enough history for people to decide if his views on politics are worth listening to.

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  52. With 10% of votes, representing 30 mil americans by postmortem · · Score: 2

    ..not good enough to be on the debate?
    10% is also 5 states
    In most of "free world", between 1% and 5% of votes will bring your party to the parliament.

  53. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or Slashdot just became trite and boring and I only check it out for a few minutes once every week or two.

    Times change, websites fade.

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  54. Re:Extremely ignorant by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    Would you feel better if he had memorized a list of foreign leaders?

  55. He's still voting for Trump by Sarusa · · Score: 1

    He's endorsed Hillary before too, but Trump is very much his kind of guy.

    Just always remember that he's a liar who thinks he's the smartest man on earth - and just in case you doubt it, he will create sockpuppets to argue with you.

  56. Re:Extremely ignorant by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with TPP? As someone whose priority list has TPP way at the bottom, I don't really see why this is such an important issue. I'm not saying it's not important, I'm just saying I don't see why it is. Why is it important to you?

  57. Re:How is this news for nerds? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    So, when you say Gary Johnson wants to destroy something that is already broken, you're not going to get any argument from me, it NEEDS to be destroyed.

    Fair enough. And replace it with...?

    Yeah. That's what I thought.

    It's easy to tear things down. It's harder to build things up.

  58. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by pegr · · Score: 2

    You've been here a long time. If you haven't left by now, you're not going anywhere.

  59. Priceless by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    "To even consider putting the Clinton’s back in the White House is an insult to women and every survivor of abuse."

  60. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by butchersong · · Score: 1

    I really don't see Gary Johnson taking much support from Clinton. Any attention to him is more likely to draw votes from Trump which is probably the real motivation behind much of the media coverage of him.

  61. Re:Extremely ignorant by D00MSlayer · · Score: 1

    He's pro free trade. He's made comments that he likes the idea of the TPP, but also stated that he feels the current form of the TPP is likely filled with crony capitalism.

    “I have a sense that [the TPP] is laden with crony capitalism,” the former Governor of New Mexico explained. He further went on to clarify why his position might not have been as clearly relayed previously: “I have heard from people that I respect that it actually advances the ball, so I would keep an open mind, but the devil is in the details.”

    Based on this clarification, it would seem that Johnson himself doesn’t have much love for the TPP, but isn’t completely ruling it out until he reads it for himself. Which is as reasonable a position as a libertarian politician can possibly take when discussing a document that, while shady, hasn’t been available to read for oneself yet.

    Johnson further clarified on how he would approach the TPP if he were get is hands on it: “I would be a skeptic looking at that to begin with, because I think those who have money are buying favoritism, and [the TPP] is for sale.”

    source:
    https://beinglibertarian.com/g...

  62. This is why the polls might not be accurate by Beeftopia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Trump supporters are absolutely vilified online and in the main stream media ("deplorables"). Yet a sizable segment does support Trump. This might suggest the polls are not accurate because people don't want to be publicly state they support Trump, when in fact they actually do.

    The Brexit polling was an example. And this is just one factor. Another factor could be that with increased use of social media, people are getting their RDA of human interaction, and are less inclined to speak with anonymous callers on the telephone, thus skewing polls again.

    1. Re:This is why the polls might not be accurate by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      I won't even answer the phone if I don't recognize the Caller-ID, and a lot of people I know are doing the same thing, especially in this season of incessant flood of bogus political "push poll" calls. (One of the reasons I stopped picking up the phone for any caller I don't recognize. The other was gadzillions of "handyman" cold callers. Not to mention the "You owe the IRS $$$, send us a Moneygram" and "I am calling from Microsoft, your computer be having a virus" callers.) That may be skewing the polling numbers a bit. (So, in my case, there's either a vote for Johnson or a write-in for Cthulhu they're missing; i haven't decided yet.)

  63. Re:Extremely ignorant by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

    You should do your own research on it. There's just too many things to list in this space. Search through Slashdot's archives for plenty of discussion.

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  64. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Easy we grew up!

    We have families now, hate newer technology like win 10, SystemD, and those who want to tax us more.

    Most of Trump supporters want low taxes or are religious and think they are following God by not voting for liberals ( in the south really)

  65. Re:Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    She "performed terribly"? Do you have any basic understanding of international politics?

    Yes, I do. Its not simply the ultimate outcomes. Its her misreading of people and situations and the formulation of poor plans to deal with things. Being dealt a bad hand is one thing, playing a bad hand poorly is something else. Hillary has a track record of playing hands poorly, all the way back to First Lady days. Hint: Her attempt at health care reform.

  66. Re: Extremely ignorant by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    Sorry buddy. Would you want a surgeon who doesn't know everything and rely on experts?

    The presidency requires someone who can make instant decisions that can have a profound impact at any time. Sounds insane and unrealistic? It is!

    Look at George W Bush as an example of a president with an above average IQ but not top end? Iraq war and certain decisions were disastrous?!

    Yes if you are too dumb to know the leader of North Korea then God help us if you have the keys to the white House.

    People keep voting with their gut and not heads. An average Joe Six pack knows better than to hire another Joe Six pack for surgery. Why does he not have the same concerns for a president.

  67. Dude! by Jawnn · · Score: 1
    "The essay concludes, "You might enjoy my book because you're not sure if I'm really endorsing Gary Johnson or just saying so to protect my brand."

    You had them going. They were totally buying it - you had just whooshed ...almost everybody. And then you go and let the cat out of the bag like that. Now, only half of them are going to believe you're serious.

    1. Re:Dude! by _KiTA_ · · Score: 1

      "The essay concludes, "You might enjoy my book because you're not sure if I'm really endorsing Gary Johnson or just saying so to protect my brand."

      You had them going. They were totally buying it - you had just whooshed ...almost everybody. And then you go and let the cat out of the bag like that. Now, only half of them are going to believe you're serious.

      Yes, woosh is the sound the point makes as it goes over your head. He follows up EVERY blog post with something similar. It's a running gag. Even his twitter feed has that as his bio.

  68. Re: Extremely ignorant by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Dude no.

    The average slashdoter here is more qualified since we can at least know who the freaking leader of North Korea is?

    Does he even watch the news?

  69. Thought Experiment by tsqr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This came to mind while observing the explosion of outrage over Trump's "Grab 'em by the pussy" video.

    1. Take all the people who were outraged by Bill Clinton's sexual pecadillos and thought they made him unfit for office; make them equally outraged about Trump.

    2. Take all the people who took the position that Bill's behavior was a matter of "personal character" having no relation to his ability to perform as President; make them adopt the same attitude towards Trump.

    Now, re-draw the electoral map. What do you get?

    1. Re:Thought Experiment by HBI · · Score: 2

      If it were as simple as that, a Trump landslide. Seriously - 400+ electorals.

      It isn't that simple, and there's only a month left.

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    2. Re:Thought Experiment by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      First of all, as Hillary already argued, if it were really just an isolated tape regarding private behavior, perhaps a reasonable person could overlook it. But it is very much one piece of an overt public pattern of tawdry behavior on Trump's part -- badmouthing, bullying, threatening, and a bizarre inability to keep control in the face of a minor embarrassment or taunting, especially against women or minorities.

      Second of all, Bill is not running for office, right now. So whether we should care about a politician badly behaved spouse is an entirely new topic.

    3. Re:Thought Experiment by tsqr · · Score: 1

      First of all, as Hillary already argued, if it were really just an isolated tape regarding private behavior, perhaps a reasonable person could overlook it. But it is very much one piece of an overt public pattern of tawdry behavior on Trump's part -- badmouthing, bullying, threatening, and a bizarre inability to keep control in the face of a minor embarrassment or taunting, especially against women or minorities.

      Second of all, Bill is not running for office, right now. So whether we should care about a politician badly behaved spouse is an entirely new topic.

      Wow, did you ever miss the point in your zeal to express your support for Hillary*. I didn't suggest that anyone should care NOW about Bill's behavior THEN, and I wasn't proposing that Trump's behavior should be overlooked. I was merely pointing out that people who found Bill's behavior, um, deplorable should also find Trump's behavior deplorable, and that people who were willing to overlook Bill's behavior should also be willing to overlook Trump's behavior.

      * I am not a Trump supporter. I am not a Hillary supporter. I think they are both terrible people who shouldn't even be allowed to look at a photograph of the White House, let alone occupy it. This does not mean I think they are the same, but I think the difference between the two of them is similar to the difference between being eaten by a lion and being slowly crushed under a rock pile.

    4. Re:Thought Experiment by quantaman · · Score: 2

      This came to mind while observing the explosion of outrage over Trump's "Grab 'em by the pussy" video.

      1. Take all the people who were outraged by Bill Clinton's sexual pecadillos and thought they made him unfit for office; make them equally outraged about Trump.

      Bill Clinton isn't anymore and our understanding of consent has changed significantly since the 90s, if he did run again I expect that would be a much bigger issue.

      2. Take all the people who took the position that Bill's behavior was a matter of "personal character" having no relation to his ability to perform as President; make them adopt the same attitude towards Trump.

      Now, re-draw the electoral map. What do you get?

      There are really only two convincing misdeeds by Bill Clinton. First the affairs, which were bad but not that big a deal. Second was the alleged rape, but that was over 40 years ago and not proven.

      Trump's rape allegations are much more recent, and his sexual assault allegations much more numerous and recent.

      Moreover he's completely unrepentant about any of it and his misogynist comments have never really ceased.

      With Trump there was also the possibility that the public persona was just an act and he was actually a decent rational person in private, and this decent rational person would be the one in office. The tape offer additional evidence that the decent rational Trump is the facade, and a President Trump would be just as pretty, vindictive, and abusive as he seems.

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    5. Re:Thought Experiment by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      It is not zeal. It is that I understand your argument perfectly, and I happen to believe it makes insufficient sense, at least regarding the second half, regarding also overlooking Trump's behavior.

      IMO, I can imagine what leaving Bill's personal life out of the discussion could actually mean, whether I personally like, love, or hate the man. He followed a fairly common pattern of less than perfectly honest politicians trying to keep his private life private. There was a woman who changed her story long after the statute of limitations passed on the alleged sexual assault incident -- that stays in the past, and I did not make assumptions about anyone involved, positive or negative. Reasonable people can disagree there, but we can at least agree or disagree about where to draw the line based on some coherent discussion.

      But when it comes to Trump, what the heck is personal life and what is public, where to draw the line, is completely ambiguous. Is insulting a beauty queen and making a racist joke about her personal or professional? I could list a dozen examples in a similar vein. Badmouthing people, getting away with whatever he can get away with because he is "smart" and a "winner" is both the man and the message. Trump literally cannot answer a softball question about how to replace Obamacare without falling into an incoherent blather. All the man has is his big mouth and no plans and no policies. So which absurd badmouthing and bullying is it okay to talk about? Should I cut him slack on the bragging about sexual assaults? Why?

      Trump steps over lines of behavior as a purposeful gambit to play the media. If he wants to run a campaign where the usual moral goalposts are installed on a moving cart, then it is not possible for an honest man to give Trump's personal life the benefit of the doubt in the usual manner. Even if I wanted to try, I do not know how. He makes things personal as a strategic choice, and such is a natural consequence --- unfortunately for him, sometimes life is fair that way.

      When you were suggesting we could cut Trump slack in his personal life, do you actually have an idea where to draw the line? Do you have a clear idea why that would be the right place to draw the line? Based on what? Tradition? A manufactured sense of fairness that so happens to hide away and normalize bizarre behavior?

    6. Re:Thought Experiment by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Third: Clinton was put through an impeachment process by the Republican party at the time. So why is the Republican party not doing the equivalent by turfing out Trump?

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  70. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Miguelito · · Score: 1

    I'd say we have a winner.

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  71. Re: Extremely ignorant by hierofalcon · · Score: 1

    I'm a pretty average slashdotter. I recognize the North Korean leader's name when I see it, but I couldn't quote it off the top of my head. At this point, KJU simply isn't on the list of leaders of countries that are relevant to me and as fast as they go through leaders - may well never be. His policies don't seem any different from his predecessor(s), so I tend to think about N. Korea - the country - as opposed to who is currently running it.

    That doesn't mean that I don't know anything about what is going on in N. Korea or what they have been doing. It doesn't mean I don't care about how deplorably they treat their own people. It doesn't mean I don't worry for nearby countries that we do a lot of business with that are directly threatened by North Korea and its nuclear ambitions. It doesn't mean I don't think China should be doing more to reign him in. I just don't happen to be great with names.

    From what I've seen, Mr. Johnson is similar. He gives good opinions on what is going on in particular parts of the world - he just doesn't seem to associate names very well. Of all the things to worry about with the candidates this year, a command of names of leaders (and particularly the ability to name your favorite leader) seems way down on the list of things to worry about. That's why the White House has a staff and why we have a State Department.

  72. Re:How is this news for nerds? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

    Here is a thought. Replace it with vouchers which can be used by any accredited school.

    Let the parents decide if the inner city school is serving their kids well by keeping the status quo that is sucking the life out of kids who want to learn, but can't.

    Let the parents decide if they want to put their kid in a special school for "Really Smart People" that doesn't ignore the smart kids in favor of the trouble makers and idiots.

    Let the parents decide if they want to put their kid into a School for the Arts and Music.

    Let the parents decide if they want to put their kid in "Math and Sciences" based school.

    Let the parents decide if they want to put their kid in the school for Snowflakes, Emos and Wallflowers, Computer in a wall (https://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en) or Green families, or Computer Nerds or .... whatever

    Oh, I don't know, let the parents decide what school their kid deserves to be in. Hell you can even give vouchers worth "extra" to those with "Special needs" where they get to spend the money the way they think their kid needs.

    Saying "Yeah, that's what I thought" shows dismissive answer to real problems that need addressing. Any and all protests against voucher or programs like that is that it might destroy public schools. Well, if they can't handle (compete) against better schools, then they should die. The most common answer by the anti Voucher people is "Yeah our schools suck, but you shouldn't have a choice because you might choose something I don't like for your kid"

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  73. Re:Dice sold Slashdot in January by Gordo_1 · · Score: 1

    So, you're saying I shouldn't trust "EditorDavid" then?

  74. Re: Extremely ignorant by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Look at George W Bush as an example of a president with an above average IQ ...

    [ citation needed ]

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  75. Re:How is this news for nerds? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    You call privilege a bad thing, when I am trying to extend it to people who don't have it. You'd rather the inner city blacks remain uneducated with the status quo, rather than learn something and free themselves from the plantation of the DNC.

    You have no idea how ignorant you really sound.

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  76. Re:Extremely ignorant by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    You should do your own research on it. There's just too many things to list in this space. Search through Slashdot's archives for plenty of discussion.

    Code for: "I don't really know." (But now that someone's called me on it, I will do some Googling and reply with stock Trump / anti-TPP information to show that I do know what I'm talking about.)

    [ Please don't bother, your views are already clear. ]

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  77. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by fatboy · · Score: 1

    Ditto

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  78. Re:Extremely ignorant by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Eh? You can't be this new to slashdot. I didn't realize people on /. liked the TPP now. What do /.ers like about it? Is it the worldwide permanent copyright extensions? Yeah we love that shit here.

    Code for: "I don't really know." (But now that someone's called me on it, I will do some Googling and reply with stock Trump / anti-TPP information to show that I do know what I'm talking about.)

    Code for: "I'm a brain-dead leftist who was against the TPP and interventionist wars last year but since teh ebil Drumpf is the anti-TPP, anti-war candidate now and the bitch with the (D) next to her name is pro-TPP and pro-war fuck yeah I'm a neocon warhawk now shove corporate cocksucking permanent copyrights up my ass I love it so much madam president fuck me harder oooo yeah I love corporations suing governments for lost profits yeah yeah yeah more wars for israel yeah yeah #ImWithHer!"

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  79. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    While that seems like the conventional wisdom, it does not appear to be the case. Even the DNC is concerned about stealing votes away from Johnson.

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  80. Re:Extremely ignorant by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    I have done my own research. None of that stuff really jumps out at me as being really good or really bad. I was asking why it was important to you. I don't need to hear a giant list of reasons. What is the single most egregious thing about TPP for you personally?

  81. Re:Extremely ignorant by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Um... Nothing in *my* post indicated that *I* like or endorse the TPP. I was just commenting on your lame reply.

    One of us us apparently "brain-dead" and it's not me.

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  82. Re:Extremely ignorant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hillary knew lots of names, met many leaders as First Lady and visited many places. Look how terribly she performed as Secretary of State; relations with Russia, state of Iraq, Libya, Syria; Iranian nuclear deal; TPP; etc.

    Relations with Russia - what is the problem there, specifically? The Russian government has been deliberately and intentionally provoking and antagonizing the west for years now... do you think that our relationship with Russia is in any way a deliberately manufactured tension at least partially due to Russia? Or do you think we should have been at war with them for a while now, since they're being so deliberately provocative? In what way would war with Russia be a good thing?

    Iranian nuclear deal - you mean, the multilateral deal Iran reached with Russia, China, Germany, France, the UK, and the US, which dramatically limited Iran's ability to produce weapons-grade nuclear material, in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, which automatically snap back into place for 10 years if Iran is found to be violating the provisions of the agreement? Yeah, it would've been much better if we kicked the door in and blew shit up. Or just let them quietly continue pursuing a nuclear weapon until they can threaten the entire Middle East as a nuclear power.

    Libya, Syria, Iraq - explain how the condition of these states is HER fault, specifically? I'm curious what you view as her material shortcomings in these cases, since as Secretary of State, her job is implementing the president's foreign policy goals.

    The President is not a quiz show contestant.

    No, a quiz show contestant is expected to know at least enough trivia to last through a 30 minute taped session. Gary Johnson couldn't even manage that without having an "Aleppo" moment. If you are unable to name a single, sitting, foreign leader when asked, then you are unqualified to be president. It's that simple. You will be expected to interact with these people, and if you can't even name a couple of them, you have no business having an opinion on a foreign policy towards them. If you are unable to identify the epicenter of a massive humanitarian disaster that's unfolding in real time, then you have no business having an opinion on foreign policy that would address it.

    A president who does nothing but "consumes facts and information from a roomful of expert advisers" is a fucking MOUTHPIECE. A PUPPET. If you, for a single second, think that somebody like that has any business leading the most powerful country on earth, you are wrong. The president needs to be one of the smartest people in that roomful of expert advisers - he or she does not need to be a deep expert on every topic, but he or she needs to be capable of listening to expert advisers, asking the right questions and gathering the right information, then making a rational, well-informed decision based on those facts.

    Pro tip: "What is Aleppo?" is not "the right question" or "the right information" for a president to be gathering. That's the question of an ignorant novice, not an experienced statesman with a command of the situation.

  83. Re:Extremely ignorant by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

    Probably worldwide copyrights, and the ability for corporations to sue governments for lost profits. These used to be really important issues for /.ers until it turned out the guy with the (R) after his name was against it, while the neocon warhawk with the (D) after her name is for it.

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  84. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Gary Johnson isn't aware of the world outside of the US's borders. He has repeatedly flubbed names of leaders and nations. And I'm skeptical if he could find the Middle East on a map.

    That would make him quintessentially... American!

  85. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    So that button found its way into the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 design?

  86. Re:Ugh. by _KiTA_ · · Score: 1

    OK, no more Dilbert. Scott Adams is an idiot.

    He's an "idiot" that has called every single thing Trump was going to do this election. Every single one. Months, and in some cases a year before anyone else.

  87. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Tritto.

  88. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    On the Iran nuclear deal, if European countries - France, Germany and other countries who were determined to do business w/ Russia pushed back on continuing sanctions, there was a simple solution. The US could have told them: 'I get it that you want to end the current sanctions against Teheran. We don't. And it's not in our interest to terminate them at all. So if you want to lift those sanctions, go ahead, but after that, we'll stop doing any business w/ you.. Since there is nothing to guarantee that any money or goods that go from us to you will end up in the hands of Iran'.

    Give them those choices, and the sanctions would have stayed in place.

  89. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    A good way of judging him is from his record as New Mexico governor. It was pretty mediocre, and no wonder, NM turned from (R) to (D) after he left: Bill Richardson succeeded him and was a good improvement. Sometimes, going w/ just party labels is a bad idea

  90. Swing states vs non-swing states totally different by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > If people want to get a third party elected, then it must start at the Congressional level, if not the state level.

    That's true.

    > I don't understand the third party voter fixation during a Presidential election. It's the most unlikely to make a difference

    The calculus is completely different between swing states and non-swing states. If your state is a swing state this year, you vote hoping to influence the direct outcome of that election. That seems to be the case you have in mind. If your state is solidly red or blue, there's no chance you'll influence the direct outcome this time around. The best you can do is send a signal - in an election with a 2% difference between winning and losing, the major parties DO notice when 10%-15% is "lost" to third parties.

    > currently serves *solely* to steal votes from one party or another (Bush Sr. in 1992, Gore in 2000, and most likely Trump in 2016). [emphasis added]

    In swing states, yes. In non-swing states, there an no electoral votes in play, only popular votes, and those popular votes *solely* inform the parties as to what to do differently next time.

    Johnson looks to get 10%-15% this time around. If doing X will get either major party even 5% of the vote, without losing any significant amount, they HAVE to consider doing X. That's enough to swing the entire election.

  91. Re:How is this news for nerds? by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Scott Adams is woefully out of touch with the culture he used to comment on. He supported Trump, and now he's a Libertarian.

    Gary Johnson wants to destroy public education and incentivize private education. I'd think most Slashdotters value education, and would find Gary Johnson's views on education to be disgusting.

    If it is about nerds, it could easily be about Dilbert, and if it's about Dilbert, Scott Adams would be relevant. I do think though, that his switching from Trump to Johnson makes little sense whatsoever. He should study the issues, decide who he agrees w/ the most, and go w/ him/her.

    Why does /. not point out that RMS has endorsed Stein (after previously backing Bernie) and also have a story on who ESR supports?

  92. Re:Extremely ignorant by cfalcon · · Score: 1

    There's plenty wrong with the TPP. Enough wrong that the only two remaining candidates are opposed to the TPP- Trump for real, and Clinton at least nominally (and possibly genuinely, depending on if her recent statements about what it turned into can be taken at value).

    The TPP enjoys broadbased opposition for very good reason. It will make the poor of the world poorer, so the progressives are opposed to it (including Sanders). It will spread ludicrous copyright crap all around, so a lot of techies are opposed to it. It is mostly a list of things preventing local governments from governing democratically on a bunch of trade and "intellectual property" issues, so the "states rights" types are opposed to it. And it will enable the outflow of jobs, so the civic nationalists are opposed to it.

    Basically, to back it, you need a principled stand on free trade and a willingness to hold your nose for its stance on censorship. Johnson's quote on it:
    “It is my understanding that the TPP does advance free trade,” says Johnson, “Is it a perfect document? Probably not. But based on my understanding of the document, I would be supporting it [though] in a perfect world there wouldn’t be a document like that, there would just be free trade.”

    The TPP seems very popular on capital hill, contentious within the ranks of libertarians, and roundly opposed by the electorate.

  93. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    And besides, neither Johnson nor Weld is a Randian wackjob. All they want to do is incrementally increase the amount of freedom available to Americans and see how far this can be taken in practice. They alone promise to do rational things like end the abomination (Johnson's term) of civil forfeiture and introduce the concept of competition into healthcare.

    Republicans and Democrats see positions like these as a threat, and this is exactly why the Johnson ticket deserves our support.

  94. Re: Of the lesser evils... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

    And smelly.

  95. Re: Extremely ignorant by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Besides, if you're going to mock Johnson's knowledge of hellpit geography, it would really help is you spelled Aleppo right.

  96. For some definition of "true to their party" by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > if they stay true to their party [not bloody likely], then you get Trump

    Many representatives (most?) would probably saying that "staying true to the party" would mean picking someone who embodies what the GOP represents - not Trump. If they stayed true to the fucked up results of a failed primary process instituted by the party, yes that would be Trump. If they wanted to stay true to the ideas the party puts forward, they could very well coalesce behind the one guy who is respected by almost every Republican - Speaker Paul Ryan. That would be "true to the party" for some definition of the phrase (and a much, much better choice than Trump).

    1. Re:For some definition of "true to their party" by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1
      That's fine but they can't pick Paul Ryan as President. At most, if House and Senate both fail to decide, they can leave him by default as Acting President Ryan.

      The house has to pick from the top three people out of the electoral college. It's in the constitution.

      If Johnson got some electoral votes and played spoiler, then they're choosing from Clinton, Trump and Johnson. Period. Nobody else.

      Meanwhile, the Senate has to pick VP from the top two, which means that VP Weld isn't going to happen in that scenario, and that may be the biggest loss, because that man is crazy smart.

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  97. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by danbert8 · · Score: 1

    Meh, I'm only still here because IT hasn't blocked this site yet... Hell they blocked Dilbert.com so I can't even screw around on Scott Adams' blog anymore even though since commenting has been "temporarily" disabled it has been pretty useless anyhow.

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  98. Lost all respect by UsualDosage · · Score: 1

    Wow, I just lost all respect for Scott Adams. No, not because of the Gary Johnson endorsement. That's fine. In a single post, he used an apostrophe to pluralize "Clinton"...TWICE. Come on, man, you're better than that.

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  99. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    But now it's not Just Some Guy's Blog anymore

    Leave me out of this.

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  100. Re: Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by msk · · Score: 1

    Get off my lawn. :P

  101. Re: Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    Sorry buddy. Would you want a surgeon who doesn't know everything and rely on experts?

    Absolutely. I want my surgeon to rely on an anesthesiologist.

    The presidency requires someone who can make instant decisions that can have a profound impact at any time. Sounds insane and unrealistic? It is! Look at George W Bush as an example of a president with an above average IQ but not top end?

    Hillary made that same decision to go to war. Lets consider the housing crisis culminating in a broad financial crisis. This crisis was not purely a creation of Wall Street, it was also a creation of government. A government that encouraged and bought up low quality home loans. Prior to the crisis when questions were raised about the stability of the system and the various government sponsored entities involved, many Democrats in Congress came to the defense of the agencies and proclaimed that they were strong and healthy. Hillary was one of these. Hillary's quick decision to go to war was wrong. Hillary's quick decision that there was no looming home loan crisis was wrong. Hillary's quick decision to support the idea of government backed low quality loans was also wrong. She repeatedly makes decision based on good intentions but fails to anticipate where things might go wrong. That's where people with good instincts differ, not in the good intentions but by seeing where the plan can go astray. By you own questionable metric she is a failure.

  102. Re:Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    The Russian government has been deliberately and intentionally provoking and antagonizing the west for years now...

    Due to our demonstrated weakness and ineptitude, some of that Hillary's.

    In what way would war with Russia be a good thing?

    War is not the only option, there are other ways to deter Russia.

    Iranian nuclear deal - you mean, the multilateral deal Iran reached with Russia, China, Germany, France, the UK, and the US, which dramatically limited Iran's ability to produce weapons-grade nuclear material, ...

    Russia, China, Gernany, France, ... you mean the countries selling equipment and helping to build Iran's nuclear facilities?

    The president needs to be one of the smartest people in that roomful of expert advisers - he or she does not need to be a deep expert on every topic, but he or she needs to be capable of listening to expert advisers, asking the right questions and gathering the right information, then making a rational, well-informed decision based on those facts.

    And quiz show gotcha-questions neither confirm nor rule out any other the above traits.

  103. Re:Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    No one is claiming anyone can fix all things, but we do hope that a Secretary of State does not make a bad situation worse. But she has repeatedly demonstrated an ability to do so. That is the problem. Not being dealt a bad hand, but playing that hand badly.

  104. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Pentagram · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a lefty and I've been visiting /. since '98 or so. (18 years?? Wow.)

    I only drop by occasionally because the site is a bit of a cesspool. It always attracted trolls and idiots, but there was a lot of humour and the level of intelligence and knowledge by many posters was incredible.

    The average commenter here is now more right wing, less well informed, stupider and less fun. The editors post less interesting stories, with more bias and more nastiness. Some of it is just flamebait.

    I have since migrated to other sites that have to some degree replaced the earlier incarnation of slashdot (not even going to mention where here).

  105. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by susanjane · · Score: 1

    Yeah. It used to be "stuff that mattered." Now it's 75% shit.

  106. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

    You've been waiting about 17 years to say that, haven't you.

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  107. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by cide1 · · Score: 1

    I am still here....and a Gary Johnson supporter. I don't put the time into Slashdot that I did 15 years ago, but I do check in from time to time.

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  108. Slap all three by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    A great political cartoon because it trashes them all.

  109. Just wow by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    What part of QUOTE "But recently I switched my endorsement to Trump"

    Oh - so you ARE that stupid! I feel so, so sorry for you if you can't understand something the underlying context of something so clear... something more obfuscated must be impossible for you to discern.

    You must have been really surprised at all of the vans that didn't actually have candy in the when you were a kid.

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  110. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by butchersong · · Score: 1

    Hmm.. nothing makes sense anymore. This is actually pretty exciting if accurate though. Not the notion that one candidate or the other might actually win but simply the thought that there might be real changes in the makeup of each party after near a decades of status quo.

  111. Re: Extremely ignorant by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    So you want some guy who is wrong, maybe doing cocaine, rapes women, and has 0 EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER and is clueless and narcastic.

    " Lets consider the housing crisis culminating in a broad financial crisis. This crisis was not purely a creation of Wall Street, it was also a creation of government. ..
    Hillary did create the housing crises. In fact the republican led congress did with deregulation before she was a senator

    "Hillary was one of these. Hillary's quick decision to go to war was wrong"
    Based on false intelligence by the Bush Administration saying he had chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

    " She repeatedly makes decision based on good intentions but fails to anticipate where things might go wrong. That's where people with good instincts differ, not in the good intentions but by seeing where the plan can go astra
    Which are?

    " By you own questionable metric she is a failure.
    Right and Trump is a steaming pile of success in experience in government as a senator ... oh ... governor ... nope ... VP ... nope. Um business. Yeah great success.

    How can you say that in a straight face? Seriously listen to his words. HE IS NOT QUALIFIED PERIOD.

    Lay off FoxNews

  112. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by quax · · Score: 1

    /. is not getting any better, and tech news can be had other places.

    Anyhow, slight correction to point [a] I think you meant to write "Grown old, demented and became Righties."

  113. Re:Man voices opinion by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    Cartoonist changes mind. Story at 10.

  114. Re: Of the lesser evils... by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    and stoned out of their skull

  115. Re:Possessive by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

    What do their backs being in the Whitehouse have to do with anything? Why that part of the body?

  116. Re: Of the lesser evils... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    and have the munchies

  117. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    I like an exchange of ideas. But this doesn't happen much on Slashdot anymore. I'm sick and tired of the alt-right leanings here; but then I figure I need to hear views from all over; only it turns out these arent viewpoints so much as name calling and trolls.

    In other words, I came here looking for an argument and ended up in the abuse room by mistake (stupid git). I'm just too lazy to leave.

  118. Off the top of my head? by Brannon · · Score: 1

    1. Didn't call a regional neighbor a country of rapists
    2. Didn't confess a crush on Vladimir Putin
    3. Didn't threaten to pull out of NATO

    You and I clearly have different ideas of what constitutes "ability and skill" in foreign policy. Dick.

  119. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    ...and communists are cool.

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  120. Re:Extremely ignorant by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    I think if Johnson gave proper Libertarian answers to those two questions, then the result would make your head explode and set social media on fire so bad that people would forget about Trump.

    As a Libertarian, his answer to Aleppo should be "fuck em". They are not our problem and we should not be playing global police. I am not sure there are any world leaders he should admire. They're all either strongmen or some variation on socialist. Some of them have even fucked up in a big way by being arrogant about the voters or letting their heart bleed too much without thinking shit through. If anything, I suspect he's inclined to eviscerate some.

    Johnson is not someone that posts memes adoring Finland.

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  121. Re: Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    So you want some guy who is wrong, maybe doing cocaine, rapes women, and has 0 EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER and is clueless and narcastic.

    Some of those qualities did not impede Bill Clinton. That said, I've never endorsed Trump. However I don't fear him, he will be the most ineffective President every IF elected. Presidents who are able to move their agenda forward must have broad support. Trump will not even have support from his own party. We will have the most obstructionist do-nothing Congress ever. However the Supreme Court may be busier than usual quashing executive orders. Well, those that are implemented. The usually course of action will probably be that the military and law enforcement will need to explain that executive orders need to be legal and constitution.

    " Lets consider the housing crisis culminating in a broad financial crisis. This crisis was not purely a creation of Wall Street, it was also a creation of government. .. Hillary did create the housing crises. In fact the republican led congress did with deregulation before she was a senator

    Bill Clinton was responsible for signing that deregulation. Years later as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were seen in financially risky conditions Hillary was one of the great defenders of Bill's actions (deregulation, mandate for low quality loans, etc.) and claimed the institutions were financially sound and healthy. Coincidentally they had donated millions to her. And not so surprisingly they were a major part of the crisis and needed a federal bailout. The financial crisis was not purely a Wall Street creation, Congress had its role, both Bill and Hillary have their fingerprints on it. Again, bad judgement with mandates for low quality loans, bad judgement as to the risk of financial problem at the institutions ... she acted entirely politically. Defending allies and supporters and Democratic policies.

    " She repeatedly makes decision based on good intentions but fails to anticipate where things might go wrong. That's where people with good instincts differ, not in the good intentions but by seeing where the plan can go astray Which are?

    Well one example might be telling banks to issue low quality loans, and then having a government sponsored entity buy them from the banks so that the banks carry no risk, a person with good judgement might think some sort or unintended consequences might arise, that maybe the wrong thing is being incentivized.

  122. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Except that there is nothing Libertarian about Trump, which is why Johnson is drawing more support from Clinton.

  123. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    The idea shouldn't have been to get Iran to any table. The idea should have been to get Iran to abandon the desire to have them in the first place. One of the few good things about the Iraq war was that Col Gadaffi thought he'd be next, so he dropped his WMD program and started to make nice w/ the US and the West. With proper pressure applied, Iran would be brought to the same point.

  124. Re: Extremely ignorant by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Bill Clinton can be president and was competent

    Monica Lewinsky was consensual whether you agreed with it or not. He possesed the intelligence. He had the prestige and knew how to act.

    He and Trump are not even in comparable

  125. Re: Extremely ignorant by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    Hillary no doubt has a high IQ yet look at the consequence on her decisions on Libya -- an entire country destroyed due to her reckless decision to kill Gadhaffi.

  126. Intentional by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    He says he intentionally does stuff like that to trigger this response. That way, you argue about style while secretly agreeing with his point.

    Not that I believe that. I think that's bull. But it is what he says.

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  127. Re: Extremely ignorant by drnb · · Score: 1

    Clinton's sleeze goes way back before Lewinsky. That is just where he got caught because evidence was left behind. There are numerous women who claimed to have been *physically* abused and harassed when he was Governor of Arkansas. He settled out of court paying $850K to one former state worker.

  128. Re:Extremely ignorant by zieroh · · Score: 1

    What's your point? A lot of people feel like that's exactly the kind of president we need right now.

    Those people are wrong. And woefully stupid^H^H^H^H^H^Hprovincial.

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  130. Yeah but.... by gabrieltss · · Score: 1

    "Clinton supporters have been telling me for a few days that any visible support for Trump makes you a supporter of sex abuse."

    Trump may say a lot of despicable things but Bill Clinton has actually DONE Those things!

    I think Trump gave Bill the ideas of what to do. Heck Trump and the Clinton's have been friends for like forever! So I don't know what Clinton supporters are so shocked about what Trump is saying......

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  131. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    Personally I got bored over here and am spending a lot more time on Reddit. It's more exciting.

    This is probably the second time I've been here this year, and it's mostly because someone posted that you guys were talking Gary and to come on by and check it out.

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  132. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    It does actually make a bit of sense.

    It's the Bernie voters for the most parts. Bernie Sanders talked about the problem that matter to millennials. He had some really socialist solutions, but he talked about those problems, and seemed like a decent, honest man.

    Gary Johnson talks about a lot of the same problems. He has a few of the same solution, but mostly not - but he's talking about the same problems and the long term future of the country. He's not talking about who has small hands, or who's dicking bimbos, or who has probably grabbed women by the genitals, or even email servers. He's talking military intervention, race relations, ending the drug war, federal deficit and other actual issues - and the worst "dirt" anyone can find on him is that he may, possibly, not be great with proper names. And on top of that, he is clearly a very nice, very honest man.

    Contrast that with the two major party psychopaths and the disgusting show of a debate last night.

    Do you see why Bernie supporters might head toward Gary instead of Hillary?

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  133. Re:Extremely ignorant by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    That just isn't true. I'm pretty sure he has a vastly deeper understanding of Syria than Trump - and in fact of world politics in general.

    Deeper than Clinton? No, probably not - being Secretary of State helps with that. And he's a lot less likely to either 1) bomb unnecessarily or 2) sell himself to the highest bidders.

    What foreign leaders has he flubbed? He failed to name one he admired. I'd like you to name a foreign leader that a Libertarian should admire. He had three seconds before he looked dumb. You have all night. Let's hear what you come up with.

    He refused to play Foreign Leader Jeopardy with a paper - the NY Times I think. Of course he knows the leader of North Korea - he refers to him in speeches all the time.

    Here's an article.

    http://www.businessinsider.com...

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  134. "What is Aleppo?" by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

    That is a 100% correct answer for a Libertarian.

  135. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    We've got stalkers?

  136. Re: Extremely ignorant by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    Sorry, who doesn't know the leader of North Korea? Johnson refers to him, by name, in most foreign policy speeches. He refused to play Foreign Leader Jeopardy with the NY Times (I think - not sure on the paper) and that got spun into "Johnson doesn't know leader of North Korea!"

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  137. Re:Extremely ignorant by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    I like the TPP as a concept. It's free(er) trade with most Pacific nations that aren't China.

    The Cato Institute's analysis says that it's a net win; not perfect, but a net gain.

    That analysis is almost certainly is what Gary Johnson is relying on. The Libertarian Party is not the Republican or Democratic party. They don't have the budget or the staff to do their own analysis of such a big document. So he's depending on Cato.

    He's said, repeatedly, that in office, it would be gone through, and if it's less free-trade and more cronyism, he would not sign it.

    But come on. Obama's going to get it done in lame duck anyway. It's not going to even matter what President Johnson thinks.

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  138. Re:Extremely ignorant by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    NM is mostly Democratic, and was then, too. Johnson was re-elected the one time that term limits allow.

    Yeah he must have been awful.

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  139. Re: Extremely ignorant by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1
    You know what? That's just flat out untrue.

    In an interview with the New York Times on Wednesday, Johnson was asked if he knew the name of North Korea’s leader. “I do,” he replied. “‘You want me to name’ the person, he said, then added, dryly, ‘Really.’” Johnson never answered the question.

    He refers to Kim, by name, repeatedly in speeches.

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  140. Interesting, thanks by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the info.

  141. Re:Extremely ignorant by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    You should do your own research on it. There's just too many things to list in this space. Search through Slashdot's archives for plenty of discussion.

    Code for: "I don't really know." (But now that someone's called me on it, I will do some Googling and reply with stock Trump / anti-TPP information to show that I do know what I'm talking about.)

    [ Please don't bother, your views are already clear. ]

    FWIW I'm pretty damn liberal and I think the TPP is an abomination, or more accurately contains enough sub-abominations that its good features are not redeeming to the document as a whole.

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  142. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Oh, one last comment in closing. Could you Americans please not elect either of those horrendous leading candidates? Thank you.

    I would sell my soul to do what you're asking. And I'm really betting more than 50%, probably closer to 2/3 of the population, agree with me.

  143. Re: Extremely ignorant by indi0144 · · Score: 1

    Nah, it looks more like "no president left behind" But he is indeed a more representative person of the average american population the "I'm american, i don't need to think, pop a pill" bunch. The bigot, the puppet and the burnout, you can pull a sitcom out of that, you're so owned by the media moguls that maybe thats the plan after all, theres no other rational explanation for this train wreck.

  144. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Benwick · · Score: 1

    Still leftie and still reading Slashdot after 16 years or so and I agree 100%. I only read as far down as the first idiotic comment and that means I don't spend a lot of time reading Slashdot anymore.

  145. Re:Extremely ignorant by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    The TPP enjoys broadbased opposition for very good reason. It will make the poor of the world poorer, so the progressives are opposed to it (including Sanders)

    I think this is a good reason to oppose something. I was a Sanders supporter, and I'm pretty sure that's why he supported it. But I'm not yet convinced that this criticism is true. I haven't seen any evidence that the TPP specifically would increase poverty beyond the claim that all trade agreements increase poverty (e.g. arguments like NAFTA created poverty, and TPP is like NAFTA)

    Honestly I don't feel like I understand the nuances of the economics of trade agreements enough to make an informed judgement over something like this.

    It is mostly a list of things preventing local governments from governing democratically on a bunch of trade and "intellectual property" issues, so the "states rights" types are opposed to it.

    I feel a bit more entitled to an opinion over the normative aspects of a trade agreement like this, as they don't really depend on the truth of various claims of causal economic relationships (e.g. this poverty is *because of* NAFTA/TPP etc), rather than simply correlations.

    I definitely think IP laws in this country and around the world are problematic. I honestly don't know if TPP will/can make them worse. I suspect it probably does, but I am not aware of any specifics.

    And it will enable the outflow of jobs, so the civic nationalists are opposed to it.

    I would think that this is one of the goals of free trade, is to allow the outflow and inflow of goods and labor. My intuition is that it's probably pointless to try to hang on to the sorts of low skilled jobs that are flowing out of our country. If we ignore the good/evil of wealth redistribution, I think it's probably more efficient to spend money to re-educate people to do skilled jobs than it is to have people doing low skilled labor for artificially inflated wages (e.g. minimum wage). We have the infrastructure to do this that other poorer countries do not. Let's let them have those low skilled jobs and we can spend money we have investing in our own people.

    Anyway, it certainly seems messy to me. It's probably a bunch of good ideas mixed with a bunch of bad ideas and everything in between. It's not clear to me if it will be a net good or a net bad compared with other trade agreements or compared to nothing.

    This is why this is a low priority for me. I feel like there are so many issues that have relatively clear good answers, and I'd rather spend my time and effort advocating for those things.

  146. Meh by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

    I don't care who Adams endorses. I've been displeased by his politics in the past so I don't take his political positions seriously. Doesn't stop me from enjoying his comics.

    If Garry Trudeau were to endorse Johnson I might pay attention. But it's not going to happen.

  147. Re: How is this news for nerds? by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Do you really wanna know what teachers make: go to http://transparentcalifornia.c... and enter "teacher" under job title.
    Those are actual salaries for California state employees.

  148. Re:How is this news for nerds? by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    He says: here's some things wrong with education, I've seen it personally
    You say : derp derp derp Repuglicans! Racists!

    Seriously, I can see why you're posting anonymous.

  149. Re:Ugh. by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    Oh god. Life becomes a constant battle. I used to try to do this, and you find yourself analyzing everything . I eventually decided, like Kwerle, that it didn't matter. If the chef at a local restaurant is a rabid Stalinist, I don't really care as long as it doesn't influence the food quality or taste. Sometimes you just don't bring up differences that don't matter to the subject at hand.

    Obviously there's a limit to this. If he posts a "no blacks allowed" sign in the window, then I'm not going in either

  150. Re:Extremely ignorant by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Walking away from the table and not lifting sanctions does exert economic pressure! A few more months or years of that would have either bankrupted Iran, or forced them to a state where they agreed to abandon the desire for nukes. Very honestly, they're not gonna abandon that as long as they are Islamic - they believe in the Mahdi who'll come out of a well in Qum to start an armageddon.

  151. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by SlashDread · · Score: 1

    Still here

  152. Free us St. Dogbert by thunderclees · · Score: 1

    Mr. Adams was originally a Clinton supporter but dropped her in his blog on the 2nd weekend in September. Hillary Clinton's physicians "engineered 90 minutes of alertness" for her at the presidential debate, "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams contended in a 9/20 column on his blog. "Clinton looked, to my eyes, as if she was drugged, tired, sick, or generally unhealthy, even though she was mentally alert and spoke well," Adams wrote. "But her eyes were telling a different story. She had the look of someone whose doctors had engineered 90 minutes of alertness for her just for the event." "If she continues with a light campaign schedule, you should assume my observation is valid, and she wasn't at 100 percent," the comic strip author added.

  153. Re:tough shit. by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, in 1988. People and parties change. I don't believe he fits any more.

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  154. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

    I'm really hoping this election forces people to realize the need for election reform, and really push for it. That's really the only upside to it so far.

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  155. Re:Dice, we get it you don't like Ms. Clinton by jwhitener · · Score: 1

    "The average commenter here is now more right wing, less well informed, stupider and less fun."

    I wonder how much of that is paid trolls? Especially around election time.