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Cybersecurity CEO Gets Fired After Threatening To Kill Trump On Facebook (mashable.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Mashable: A San Diego CEO was fired after saying on Facebook that he would get a "sniper rifle" and "kill the president-elect." Matt Harrigan, CEO of the cybersecurity firm PacketSled, posted the comments on his personal Facebook page, but they ended up on Reddit where Trump supporters found the comments and mobilized to contact law enforcement. "I'm going to kill the president. Elect," Harrigan wrote. "Bring it Secret Service." PacketSled said in a statement that it had accepted Harrigan's resignation. "The PacketSled Board of Directors accepted the resignation of President and CEO Matthew Harrigan, effective immediately," the company said. "We want to be very clear, PacketSled does not condone the comments made by Mr. Harrigan, which do not reflect the views or opinions of the company, its employees, investors or partners." In a previous statement, the company said it reported the information to the Secret Service and placed Harrigan on administrative leave. According to The Next Web, Harrigan apologized for his remarks and said the threats were meant to be a joke: "My recent Facebook comment was intended to be a joke, in the context of a larger conversation, and only privately shared as such. Anyone who knows me, knows that I do not engage in this form of rhetoric with any level of seriousness and the comment most certainly does not represent my real personal views in any regard. I apologize if anything that I said was either taken seriously, was offensive, or caused any legitimate concern."
Just not very smart of him, whatever your politics. I'm sure he realizes that now, but he seems a little mature to be learning a lesson like: do not threaten head of state with murder in a public forum.
Not very smart indeed.
...and the exact same thing can be said for "the right." Society has unfortunately become a set of echo chambers, with roughly half the population in each one.
No but I remember that angry anti-government white dude who blew up the federal building in Oklahoma.
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Ridiculous! He had no business being CEO with that kind of mentality.
Mr. Harrigan, next time you should think better of what you are about to say. What you said was not funny.
You could have simply said "There's nothing we can do about the travesty of this election. Except maybe the Second Amendment People can do something, I don't know."
See, that way it's funny, isn't it? That way it's just a joke. Everybody would have LOLed.
Now that he's unemployed, he'll be eligible for free Obamacare! .
Free Obamacare? The unemployed get free health insurance? Since when?
Only in America..
Oh boy. You people really don't know much about the outside world, do you?
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As a CEO of a cybersecurity firm the first thing you should know is that no comment in facebook is private, regardless of the content. He was correctly fired just on grounds of incompetence, no matter his political stance. NB: I disagree with killing anyone, no matter what.
Regardless of your political stance or your opinion of Trump, publicly threatening the life of a federal politician is about the dumbest shit you could do.
Sad how these unthinking people will put themselves on lists for the rest of their lives because they couldn't use the slightest bit of moderation.
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When jokes are outlawed, only outlaws will have jokes.
I'm taking him at his word that it was a joke, and I can easily imagine many contexts where such a joke could be made. None of them are public.
Actually, this isn't an example of the Email Inquisition, since the joke reportedly started on Facebook (though many people communicate more via Facebook than via email). Really hard to imagine how the CEO of a cybersecurity company could regard ANYTHING on Facebook as secure or private. Already quite sufficient reason for him to be fired, eh? He didn't even know how to control his own so-called privacy settings?
I have a theory about humor. I think we need it to be human. It's intimately linked to our nature as learning machines, quite possibly our deepest and most instinctive motivation for learning new things. Think of how easily babies are amused. Think of how funny your greatest teachers were, though of course they used humor selectively. You can even think of slapstick, where the humor is in the pain of someone else, and whereby you learn not to do that.
I call it the General Theory of Relatively Funny Stuff.
In closing, let me remind you not to attempt any jokes in an airport. A friend of mine once did that and it cost him a lot of money and several days of his time. The joke also contributed to some of your personal inconveniences if you ever travel with an electronic device, but 'nuff said.
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Don't forget that guy that shot Gabby Giffords.
By that standard, perhaps Mr. Trump should also. His "2nd amendment solution" for Hillary implied assassination.
That being said, progressives have almost zero power in Washington despite being almost half the country. There is a lot of anger and frustration over that. We have hardly any representation.
Our system is broken, with see-sawing power-swings in both directions. Gerrymandering should be outlawed, the Supreme Court should constitutionally require 12 Justices (to make retirements less significant), and the president should be split into a domestic president and a foreign policy president so that too much power does not fall on one person.
Table-ized A.I.
"Criminal threats is the crime of putting someone in fear. California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats). you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device". Threatening to kill someone comes under this law.
But on a more serious note, unless he posted a picture of the rifle along with it, i don't think he should be kicked out of the job outright.
But it does worth an investigation.
Choosing not to reveal my political affiliation here, my neutral statement on the state of political discourse in this country is that it has for too long deteriorated into something that is sad, deplorable, innately violent, and frankly shameful. There is no leading political voice in either party who after uttering anything no matter how high-minded wouldn't be skewered for his or her position. The hate on both sides is rabid and irrational, and big thoughts have been replaced by cheap taglines on Facebook meant only to score cheap political points rather than argue for policies and positions that will lift all of us up. The culmination of this behavior has led to a death-spiral that has fake(?) death threats serving as a proxy for joking, or maybe not joking. America has become a nation participating in the Jerry Springer show. We need another enlightenment, and I seriously doubt there's one waiting for us on the horizon or anybody left who is willing to join in it.
Sounds like another Schrodinger's douchebag. "Oh, you took that serious? Well.. uh.... it was a joke!"
that was well established during the election. You're not really getting Trump except as a figure head.
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But but... wait.
These are the same people calling anyone who supports Trump "haters".
Ironically, they are doing the hating now. Blocking freeways, holding "fuck Trump" signs (see the USCD youtube video of them blocking Hwy 5).
on one of the major news networks today. And it wasn't Fox or MSNBC. So yeah, things are getting pretty crazy. The media just keeps right on pouring gasoline on the fire so long as it sells news.
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Murder isn't creative. Instead, threaten to tie him up and shave his head.
Table-ized A.I.
And I remember him being executed, with full agreement by right-wing white dudes.
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I've said it before, but feel it appropriate to repeat it here:
Trump is a most unpleasant, vile, human being but I get the feeling that the hysterical over-reaction to his election is going to do far more damage in the USA and globally than anything he is likely to do in his presidency.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
It got brought.
Actually, it's rather ironic. You see, we're often told about the Paradox of Tolerance formulated by Karl Popper, essentially that intolerance is the one thing one cannot tolerate. However, how does one decide what "intolerance" is and by what right is it suppressed? Well, just look at what Popper wrote:
From this we can see that the moral justification is based on dealing with those who "answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols." So it's ultimately justified by means of the right of self-defense and anyone using Popper to justify going on the attack has it completely backwards. It's a shield, not a sword.
Instead, it should properly be used against the intolerance and criminal behavior of those particular individual people who promote or are involved in things like large riots or attacking and nearly killing an old man in the street (as well as stealing his car) after a fender-bender when they believed he supported the other political party.
That's not true. But you're demonstrating with this comment that you live in the echo chamber that believes such things.
In my unqualified experience, there's about 20% of extremist nutters on any side of any debate, but these 40% get ALL of the press (as demonstrated by 42% of voters who chose not to participate in this circus). So if you want to find the other 60% of relatively normal people, switch off and get out more. That means no FB, no Twitter, no CNN, No Fox News. Switch it all off.
If you believe in echo chambers then switching off is the only logical path. Recognising an echo chamber but continuing to opt into it takes a special kind of fool.
Well why not crowd-source government with an app? We could all be on the Supreme Court and our rulings, slammed out on a coffee break or on while sitting on the can, could be modded up or down by millions of your citizen-peers. Same with legislation. Then replace the president with IBM's Watson for the ultimate in special-interest resistance and dispassionate execution of the law.
Once Trump "opens up the libel laws," if this guy fails to follow through on his threat, Trump will be able to sue him. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
Freedom to fear. Freedom from thought. Freedom to kill.
I guess the War on Terror really is about freedom!
Free Obamacare? The unemployed get free health insurance? Since when?
Since the ACA was enacted, the income threshold to qualify for medicaid was raised (meaning more and more moderately-poor people qualify for it). If you have no income (for sufficiently long) you will (eventually) qualify for it. So those who are unemployed (for long enough), or even just sufficiently underemployed, or just underpaid, get free health insurance now. One of the only good things about the ACA, really.
That said, this guy having been a CEO, he probably still has (investment) income despite not having a job, hasn't been unemployed long enough for his last tax return that medicaid will ask for for income verification to reflect that status (of course), and that's not even counting the golden parachute he's undoubtedly received, since they "accepted his resignation" rather than "terminated him with cause".
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Ok I think Trump is a moron who will probably fuck the country over, but I support the democratic process therefore support him as the elected leader.
One thing I am already sick of is the amount of anti-Trump articles doing the rounds based purely on speculation of what he might do as POTUS.
This sort of thing is bearable during an election when everyone is trying to convince others to vote for their person, but its over, he won, let it go.
He should be given the chance to lead and be judged on his actual decisions, not what we think he might do. All this Anti-Trump hysteria is doing is proving Trump right and feeding the monster.
I used to work for the guy, and I agree 100% with your statement.
If he's not currently running for president, then he can say whatever he likes and it doesn't go on his permanent record. Right?
A schizophrenic takes a shot at a politician and you're blaming politics? You don't know much about mental illness.
Jared Lee Loughner (the shooter) may have been mentally ill, but after the 2011 Tucson shooting there was much discussion about how the toxic political environment in the USA may have set him off. John Stewart of The Daily Show said it well:
For all the hyperbole and vitriol that's become a part of our political process—when the reality of that rhetoric, when actions match the disturbing nature of words, we haven't lost our capacity to be horrified. ... Maybe it helps us to remember to match our rhetoric with reality more often.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
I don't think your analysis is adequate. Your first example is incitement and your second example could be snipped, thus "proving" you made the direct threat.
At least you had the intestinal fortitude to put your name on your comment. Or perhaps you correctly analyzed the lack of privacy on Slashdot?
I'm more interested in analyzing "trumpicide", which I propose as a generic name for a new category of Trump-related crimes. The prior definition is obviously obsolete. Some people thought that the Donald was committing political suicide by saying vile, thoughtless, and even crazy things, but the election results say otherwise.
I propose three degrees of trumpicide. First-degree trumpicide is analogous to suicide or homicide. There has to be a dead body and a causal linkage to Trump. You have probably already heard that calls to suicide prevention hotlines have surged since the election, but if anyone killed himself while on Trump-related hold, then I would suggest that is first-degree trumpicide. For the homicidal version, I'm sure you've heard of arguments related to Trump, and if any of those arguments escalated and someone died, then it should qualify as first-degree trumpicide. The victim might be on either side, though the Trump supporters have more guns. However, in another obvious example, if the so-called Republicans now repeal ObamaCare (and I predict they will), then the number of first-degree trumpicides will go WAY up.
Second-degree trumpicide should be for personal injury short of death, and third-degree for property damage. The relationships are actually likely to get complicated, per this partly hypothetical example: You may have already read that Trump stiffed the primary caterer of his second wedding. When she presented her bill for the job well done, Trump told her that he wasn't going to pay it because the publicity value of having catered his wedding was larger than the bill. As I heard the story, she didn't sue him, but I don't know if that was because Trump accurately assessed her as too afraid to fight him or because she decided she didn't have the financial resources. Doesn't really matter since it's already 3rd-degree trumpicide, but maybe the financial damage was so large she went bankrupt and became depressed, and now we're at 2nd-degree trumpicide. If the story ended with her killing herself, then we've achieved 1st-degree trumpicide.
By the way, I seem to attract a lot of trolls these days. Possible that Slashdot has simply been overrun, but if you are not a troll, then I ask you not to feed the trolls with my food for thought. I'll try to respond directly to any questions directed at me, but I'm not going to waste a lot of time with such nuisances. I would still prefer to help fund features to make them less visible on Slashdot. (Did you read about Twitter's latest laughable efforts? Talk about draining the sewer with a thimble.)
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A schizophrenic takes a shot at a politician and you're blaming politics? You don't know much about mental illness.
A citizen takes a shot at a politician and you're blaming mental illness? You don't know much about politics.
....and the exact same thing can be said for "the right."
Not quite...
I'm on the right and I listened to Bernie Sanders carefully...
I don't think he is very realistic in his ideas outright, but he shouldn't be ignored either. Reality is somewhere in between here and there.
Both sides have good ideas from time to time, it would be wise to not shut anyone out.
As someone who is currently unemployed and without insurance, I can assure you that Obamacare DOES NOT provide free, or even reduced rate, insurance to you if you're unemployed. If you live in a state that didn't expand its Medicaid insurance program, the only thing Obamacare provides when you're unemployed with no income is a waiver so that you don't have to pay the penalty for not having insurance. Gee, thanks Obama.
I agree except for the 'deteriorated' part. Honestly we are not far removed from Jacksonian politics. Burr and Hamilton hated each other so much they fought a duel before that. After Jackson we moved to race baiting, and then to muckraker journalism. We took a little timeout to fight WWII and had a little second era of good feelings post war where things were somewhat more civil for 16ish years. We next promptly returned to race baiting, from their we segwayed into fear and nationalism. Which brings us to today. Where economic fears are pretty much the order of the day and the opposition party is trying to 'trump' the fear by resorting to race baiting and identity politic.
Frankly I don't think much of anything has changed at all, other than in relatively superficial ways.
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From Wlkipedia: A former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007, prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal,"[42] "radical."
Look, don't you know that 99% of ALL mass shootings in the US have been by leftists? It's always so interesting how ALL leftists are so ignorant of all facts that prove their worldview is completely wrong.
You're saying that because he was a fringe actor we shouldn't equate his actions with the right as a whole? That's fine and all, but it does go both ways.
He said it was just a joke. Like Russian Roulette is just a game!
Trump is not, and you're going to be surprised by the things he does because of that. He's not part of the shitty milieu that you're used to. You probably won't like what is happening, but expecting it to be the same as Obama or Bush is ill-informed. But everyone will have plenty of time to learn.
Trump is the most interesting candidate to win since Teddy Roosevelt got catapulted into office after McKinley's death. Instead of bemoaning it, people should be just popping popcorn. My expectation is that once he is out of office, you won't recognize America. Street protests and death threats won't stop that from happening. Also, you don't want him to die, even if you are a Democrat. You'll end up with an old line Republican replacing him with Bush policies - which no Democrat should want, and I don't even want. You'll find out over time that he's really a circa 1985 Democrat from New York with capitalist convictions. Moreover, the changes he performs may well benefit Democrats too once they return to power.
The fever dreams of assassinations, impeachments and faithless electors need to be put away. As do the stupid election rhetoric which didn't work. Unless you like being branded as a conspiracy theorist, in which case...have at it. Republicans had been dismissing and defeating Democrats for many years prior to Obama because of that very factor. You might be too young to remember Carter, Dukakis or Mondale or their supporters. If they had seemed like reasonable people (and their supporters, too), you would have had no Reagan or no Bush Sr., perhaps. It wasn't so much that America was more right wing then - in fact, I suspect it was less so than today. But the Democrats managed to convince America that they were less reliable hands in control of the Presidency, at least.
I don't really think anyone is going to listen, but I might be back in late 2020 to point out the obvious to you.
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No but I remember that angry anti-government white dude who blew up the federal building in Oklahoma.
That would be Bill Ayers, correct? The left-wing terrorist who, after getting away with murder, is celebrated in leftist academia?
The phrase that bothers me is that the company demanded his resignation.
Instead, he should have been "terminated for cause".
In the latter case, severance is typically not paid.
In the former case, they typically get a severance package.
This guy doesn't deserve a severance package.
If you want to know how we ended up like this, please watch this video: "President Trump: How & Why...". It is a must-view for people exactly like you for how the level of political discourse got so low. It's by a leftist, so you know he's telling the truth and has been fact-checked. It's really sad what he's saying and it is all 100% true.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
If you want to know how we ended up like this, please watch this video: "President Trump: How & Why...". It is a must-view for people exactly like you for how the level of political discourse got so low. It's by a leftist, so you know he's telling the truth and has been fact-checked. It's really sad what he's saying and it is all 100% true.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
So he can receive a severance package.
CEOs fired for cause don't usually get the package.
You're saying that because he was a fringe actor we shouldn't equate his actions with the right as a whole? That's fine and all, but it does go both ways.
No, I'm saying that right wingers don't demand special privileges for being right wing. (Though they may demand special privs for being Christian.)
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Every state in the country has Medicaid, whether it was expanded or not. If you are unemployed with no income, you qualify for medicaid.
Yeah, the guy who worked on her campaign once.
Not exactly a poster boy for right wing violence, what with him being a Democrat and all.
It's closer than Watts v. United States, but probably still not sufficient to constitute a true threat.
It's the Trump supporters we have to be worried about, right? I keep hearing it, but all I see in the news is crazy leftist looneys rioting and beating up Trump supporters.
Do you have ESP?
Get in line!
Vent all you want but your words ring hollow when for the last eight years all we've heard is how bad things are, how horrible this president has been, how he should be impeached (for doing his job), and all the other vitriol cast upon him almost solely because of his race
References, please. Who said these things? Random Internet trolls, or what? I haven't seen any major figures in the Republican party cast vitriol on President Obama because of his race.
I can't claim that none of them are racists, but I can claim that none of them were caught saying such things, because the news media has a field day anytime a Republican says something stupid or hateful or embarrassing.
If things are so bad then why suddenly, when not a single thing has changed in the last week, are Republicans suddenly saying the economy is doing well and there are no problems?
Your reference does not support your claim. You said that Republicans are suddenly saying that the economy is doing well, but you linked to a poll about whether the economy will improve or not ("economic confidence"). And surprise surprise, Democrats polled believe that the economy will do worse now that Trump was elected, while Republicans polled believe that the economy will do better.
Because in a Republican's world if you don't bow down to your leader, if you don't blindly follow the leader, if you don't think like the leader, you're an enemy. Wouldn't want to open a Republican's hypocritical and bigoted mind by listening to others who don't agree, now would we?
I'm sure you could find some examples of Republicans like this, if you look. But I can find plenty of examples of Democrats like this, who feel that anyone who isn't a liberal Democrat is an enemy.
President Obama famously said that it's important to vote to "punish your enemies."[1] The Project Veritas videos show multiple Democrat operatives saying that Trump voters are violent and insane, and one referring to Republicans as "you f***ing ****holes".[2] In 2015, Hillary Clinton called Republicans "enemies" and Bill Clinton said she was right to do so. Here's an article detailing a list of Republicans or conservatives who are considered "enemies" by Nancy Pelosi. Harry Reid declared the Koch brothers are "enemies of progress."
Liberals don't like to praise Ronald Reagan, but he was very successful at working with the opposition. He had a famous saying: "It's amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit for it." (It appears that Harry S. Truman said it first... hey, it's bipartisan! And similar quotes have been found from over 150 years ago. source)
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Or maybe, to make things more efficient, Hilary Clinton could hire him as Brian Pagliano's replacement, so that he can do things even more surreptitiously than Pagliano. Particularly since he headed a cybersecurity firm. Or the DNC could make him the head of their entire IT organization, so that nobody in future - Russian or other - can break into it
No. If Trump dies before the electoral college vote, it's up to the electoral college. If Trump dies after the electoral college vote, Vice-President Elect Pence becomes President-Elect Pence. In no case is Obama eligible for a third term; that's barred by the 22nd Amendment.
This is so true! The split this time was more vertical than horizontal i.e. not so much Left vs Right, as much as Top vs Bottom. So Hilary and Ted Cruz found themselves on the same side - establishment, Wall Street, trade deals,... while Trump and Sanders did on the other end. The only differences b/w Trump and Sanders were things like Minimum wage, BLM, Abortion, Muslims, Comprehensive Immigration Reforms vs the Wall. But even Bernie was against any more immigration - legal or illegal - as long as there is such a high unemployment rate in the country
One of the things that that I believe hinders civil discourse is the insistence by some on the left that everything Republicans do is motivated by racism, sexism, and bigotry. It honestly gets a bit hard to remain civil against the constant barrage of people leveling those types of horrible charges against you at every turn, but lashing out in turn does no good either. Granted, the right is pretty good at name-calling too (especially Trump, of course), but let's talk about what you just said.
Why do you feel that criticism of Obama is solely because of his race? Are you perhaps somewhat young? Because EVERY president is criticized by political opponents, regardless of their skin color. If anything, I think Republicans were a bit afraid of taking off the gloves, at least early on, precisely for fear of being labeled as such. Bush Jr was described as a war criminal, and Reagan was reviled by the left, who took every opportunity to mock and denigrate him. But with Obama, it's racism?
Let me ask you: does opposing the abuse of the H1B program automatically mean one is prejudiced again Indians? It's a ridiculous notion, right? But why is someone who opposes illegal immigration automatically a racist, simply because most of those illegal immigrants are Hispanic?
Sure, there are Republicans who are undoubtedly racist, homophobic, or bigoted, but I resent it when we all get painted with that very ugly brush. Most of the Republicans I know personally are very nice people, just like most of the Democrats I know are very nice people. Not bigoted. Not racist. Not sexist. But too many of them are all too willing to think the worst of their political opponents.
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Sadly, the small minority has grown significantly. People that don't really care about politics are becoming heavily invested (emotionally) in the polarity. Personally, I don't like Trump, and feverything I hear about Pence scares the shit out of me. Hillary is about the same, although I take some comfort in the fact that she was there to run the country; I can't see a way she actively destroys the country any faster than Trump. I wish we could get some of the wedge issues out of politics in the interests of focusing on the things that actually matter.
Not even "demanded", but "accepted". The practical upshot is the same either way, but saying they "accepted" it puts a much lighter spin on the situation than saying they "demanded" it.
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Harrigan apologized for his remarks and said the threats were meant to be a joke: ...
The Secret Service doesn't really have a sense of humor about things like that. (rightly so)
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Surely his company has a Use of Social Media policy - what does he expect from placing something so inflammatory in the public realm?
Somehow, I'm not surprised that an unstable liberal would get their knowledge of guns from video games like Call of Duty.
Since he's never purchased or used one, then the chances of him hitting anything at range is basically zero.
If you are unemployed with no income, you qualify for medicaid.
Not true at all. Good for you that you live in a state decent enough to offer Medicaid to out-of-work adults. From medicaid.gov:
Medicaid is a joint federal and state program that, together with the Children’s Health Insurance Program, provides health coverage to over 72.5 million Americans, including children, pregnant women, parents, seniors and individuals with disabilities. Medicaid is the single largest source of health coverage in the United States.
In order to participate in Medicaid, federal law requires states to cover certain groups of individuals. Low income families, qualified pregnant women and children, and individuals receiving Supplemental Security Income (SSI) are examples of mandatory eligibility groups. States have additional options for coverage and may choose to cover other groups, such as individuals receiving home and community based services and children in foster care who are not otherwise eligible.
The Affordable Care Act of 2010 created the opportunity for states to expand Medicaid to cover nearly all low-income Americans under age 65. Eligibility for children was extended to at least 133 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) in every state (most states cover children to higher income levels) and states were given the option to extend eligibility to adults with income at or below 133 percent of the FPL. The majority of states have chosen to expand coverage to adults, and those that have not yet expanded may choose to do so at any time...
I always shake my head when an executive, celebrity, athlete, etc. says s/he is apologizing "if" they offended anyone. CLEARLY THEY *** DID *** OFFEND PEOPLE or else they wouldn't be apologizing. :) They're sorry they got caught, not sorry for their actions/words. They need to OWN what they did and say, "I apologize FOR offending people."
OK, if you have a dependent child it's all 50 states. If you have no children it's 31 states.
Here's a video of it for anyone who wants to see that particular comment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
The unemployed get free health insurance? Since when?
It's called Medicaid and it's been around for a long time.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I suspect he may be channeling Peter Thiel.
You are attempting to conflate a direct statement of intent to assassination of an individual, with Trump saying that people can prevent the loss of their 2nd amendment rights against tyranny (as the 2nd amendment was designed). You may not see the establishment as tyrannical, but Progressives have threatened to rid the people of their 2nd amendment rights for years. Thankfully we will never know what would have happened if Clinton won the election, but speculation that the 2nd amendment would be gone is fair game based on her own statements. Her own words on Supreme Court judges was that she wanted people with "feelings", not knowledge and respect for the US Constitution.
FWIW, Progressives hate all of the amendments but the 2nd needs to go before others are attacked. Group think does not live when people have rights to individual liberty. Plenty of Politicians on the other side calling themselves a different brand have similar perspectives, but that is not the platform at least.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Bullshit.
As opposed to Occupy Wall Street that squatted in the middle of Manhattan and did go to war with law enforcement?
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Technically, Obamacare is making others pay for your expensive insurance.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
The Court situation will quickly change, and without a majority in at least one house or the prez, you don't have enough influence to stop most highly partisan bills.
And one of the smartest and most experienced there is.
Can you guys please stop saying that phrase like it is based on reality? One term as Secretary of State, following one Senate term, while being married to the only President in living memory to be impeached, does not make Hillary "the most experienced" politician. Any state governor worth considering, Democrat or Republican, has more experience where it matters, working with a legislature and getting policies in place that make the people in the state better off.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
You nominated one of the most unlikable candidates you've ever put forth;
And one of the smartest and most experienced there is.
After 30 years in politics she was unable to beat someone who took it up as a hobby less than two years ago. She is most certainly not as smart as she appears to you.If she was as experienced as you say she is, Trump would not have won.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
So right wingers are all murderous nutjobs
Don't think I didn't notice what you tried to do.
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Just because a used car salesman can get more people to buy jalopies doesn't mean they are smarter (where it matters).
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Being a state governor didn't solve W
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Just because a used car salesman can get more people to buy jalopies doesn't mean they are smarter (where it matters).
If his job is selling used cars, then "where it matters" is selling used cars. Clinton couldn't persuade enough of the country that she was going to act in their interests. That makes her a poor politician.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
And being a one term senator didn't solve Obama.
Tag, you're it.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
This is rich. How about this? Jail him! or
Donald for Jail. Get used to it; it's not going to stop.
You voted for an asshole, and we're not going to let you forget it. Even his family sucks.
"CDC is on its way."
CDC? Not LHO?
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damn, you made me lose.
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As opposed to Occupy Wall Street that squatted in the middle of Manhattan and did go to war with law enforcement?
I have no great love for the current 'left wing', but by your standards and definition of violence, both Gandhi and MLK must have been pretty violent people as well. Peaceful resistance and demonstrations are required for a living democracies. Free speech zones are an indicator showing that democracy is being stifled.
The orange freak must not be made a martyr. Please, nobody shoot at him. But that does not mean we can not use every combination of legal tactics to humiliate him and make him turn tail and run. Let the million man marches begin. Back in the day Nixon was having panic attacks due to the large numbers of protesters that he imagined might storm the white house. Also keep in mind that Trump is the greatest gift to comedians imaginable. Expect to see him lampooned daily and humiliated beyond anything that has ever gone on before. And why not start jailing, long term, those who shout racial insults out of cars and label it a hate crime so that they stay in prison for long periods of time? In a polite and symbolic way i am saying let's stomp the guts out of right wing trash.
political discourse in this country is that it has for too long deteriorated into something that is sad, deplorable
How ironic that it's actually some of the Clinton supporters who are being deplorable.
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OK, if you have a dependent child it's all 50 states. If you have no children it's 31 states.
Sounds about right (I didn't bother checking the current numbers). It was much worse before ACA.
I don't care which candidate you support, which one you hate, etcetera - what a horse's ass level of stupidity to do that.
If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
Even if it was a joke, he is in violation.
at this point quitting Slashdot is beginning to look like the winning strategy.
Oh! Please do! You've been making that promise for quite some time.
Now give me that boilerplate response to show everybody what you're made of (-1 Troll)
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Thank you! and moderators too.. This is what I get for triggering the crybabies (browse his comment history). You see this puerility all the time from democrats and of course people like Trump are going to win.. *So unfair* [/sarc]
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I guess he was right to dis the SS in that way. It is pretty inexcusable that he was not put in jail within 10 hours of said tweets. You don't investigate assassination threats months latter. Now this man has even more reason to try to assassinate Trump, and you have given him the time to actually buy a rifle, get certified, wait the three business days required, etc.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
Anybody thinking about if they would like 70 year old Donald Trump to die should consider if they REALLY prefer Mike Pence, who is twice the conservative that Trump ever was.
âoeTolerance applies only to persons, but never to truth. Intolerance applies only to truth, but never to persons.
The idea that Clinton and Co. would use the agreed-upon process outlined in the Constitution to affect change is naive at best and laughable at worst. Over the last 8 years, the Democratic party (and their media collaborators) have shown the world that the "ends justify the means" and they have no time for building consensus. It's their way or the highway. And with gun-control, doubly-so.
Many of us have no doubt that Clinton and Co would use every part of government to enforce her brand of gun control.
Really? And if he was Muslim? Would you think he was joking or serious. There's nothing in his post to indicate he was joking.
I'll pit O against W any day. O saved us from Hoover 2.0.
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Because to be fully honest, she'd have to tell the rust-belt that manufacturing is not coming back. (That's why her retraining plan was more logical.) Trump lied to them by suggesting the main problem was trade deals and undocumented workers. Trump *is* a better liar, yes. (I agree the trade deals are not very good, but NOT the key cause of job problems.)
Voters were flim-flammed using xenophobia.
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Which Trump is also likely to do, based on his record and confession about bribing politicians during the GOP debates. That's not a difference maker between the candidates.
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Are you saying McCain sucked?
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
I don't know many companies that offer severance packages these days.
But, you want somebody to resign so that they can't file to unemployment, which causes unemployment withholding to go up at the company.
I don't respond to AC's.
Hey, I have lots of republican friends, and I wouldn't label any of them as deliberately racist. But when your house has a few leaks, and everyone keeps insisting that the roof is just fine because they don't have a leak where they're standing at that exact moment, one can only conclude that your house has some problems whether you want to deal with it or not. If you can get the racially motivated members out of your party, then it might be possible to talk cogently about real immigration fixes without racism rearing up in every conversation. Now...this may not be a realistic solution, but I generally subscribe to the notion that it's generally better to be on the side of the fence the white supremacists aren't on. Or...put another way.....if you can't get rid of them, then maybe you need to look more closely at how aligned you really are to the rest of your fellow conservatives. How many of these allies are hurting, rather than helping your non-racist immigration reform ideas?
As someone who is currently unemployed and without insurance, I can assure you that Obamacare DOES NOT provide free, or even reduced rate, insurance to you if you're unemployed. If you live in a state that didn't expand its Medicaid insurance program, the only thing Obamacare provides when you're unemployed with no income is a waiver so that you don't have to pay the penalty for not having insurance. Gee, thanks Obama.
Thank your state representatives for refusing to participate in the exchange and set up proper Medicaid expansions. (I think that was what you meant, but the sarcasm meter was wavering near zero so hard to say).
Cheer up matey!
/. over the last ten years or so, that it is really technology that is impacting our economy, jobs, etc; Unless you really have your head in the sand you can see where things are going, which is increased productivity(less people needed), automation, AI/chatbots, self driving cars/planes, Pharmacies needing less people to run them, Big Data, etc, etc. The pace of change is quickening, and the vast majority of Americans really have no idea what is on the horizon.
In the near future we will be ruled by AI, who will enforce its rules via the panopticon, drones, chip implants and "robocops".
AI will slowly but surely supplant us as the decision maker for all manner of choices.
For those of you who think Trump, or anyone else is going to "Make America Great Again", you missed the most important part:
Technology
This is a technology based site, right?
You would think that after all the articles that have shown up on
There is no way Trump or anyone else is going to stop or slow down this change.
We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
As I said to one of my friends once "Stalin was also pretty experienced and good at ruling. I don't want him running the show".
Didn't vote for Hilary because: 1) She openly hates some things I agree with, 2) she has a serious stink of corruption about her. Where there's enough smoke, there IS fire..., and 3) From a tech standpoint, the email fiasco was just inexcusable.I cared about it, because I run email servers myself. Later leaks of emails should have cemented that.
Oddly enough, it's been the left that's screamed about offshoring for years now. And you are correct, automation is the big threat. I don't have an answer for that, and I'm not going to pretend I do. I'm not sure anyone does at this point.
I don't give a damn how likable or unlikable she is. Looks at Sanders, he's an angry Curmudgeon and people loved him. \
BTW, I didn't vote for Trump either. I voted for the candidate I actually liked. Who won nothing...
He's a pro-interventionist. We'd have our grubby fingers in too many mid-east pies. (Some argue H is also, but not to the same extent.)
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I don't really disagree with Trump that offshoring/trade-deals are a problem. But they are not the biggest problem. Trump ignored the biggest problem, other than vague talk about dereg and tax cuts stimulating the economy making all boats float. Stale & failed trickle-down-theory.
Hillary at least in part addressed the biggest problem by offering extensive retraining programs.
As far as "corruption", neither had a clear advantage in that category; it wasn't a difference-maker.
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Here's my story, and no, I'm not making it up.
It was a class trip, for my eleventh grade class, 1987. We were going to Washington DC for a program...can't remember the name, but lots of fun.
Anyway.....myself and a few of my friends were standing on the long long lawn that leads up the to capital building, sorta between the Ulysses S. grant Memorial and the capital There was one of those round concrete drain covers in the lawn, maybe half a foot in diameter.
We were five idiots , 17, standing around very Pre 9/11 on the capital lawn, and for some reason one of us decided to remove it. So off comes the cover, and there's a big hole going down into blackness. Another guy had bought some of those snap caps earlier in the trip, you know, the little white things with sand and gunpowder in them--you throw them on a hard surface and they make a snapping sound. The guy who has these starts throwing them down the hole, one by one. Some hit the side, little snap, others fall for a while, looong way off snap or nothing.
Almost immediately after we'd done a few, people come running: Cops in Uniform, Joggers nearby who suddenly pull out guns, random people who look like tourists are pulling out weapons( but not dangerously, nothings pointed at us directly) and eventually about twenty people come out of the woodwork and surround us.
So we're standing there stupidly scared, and they take our IDs to check them, spend about 30 minutes quizzing us, teachers come over and call us idiots, snap caps get confiscated, drain cover put back on, etc. We're issued a stern warning and told we can go.
We were in DC for another week, and later that day all of us start noticing the same two guys following us. two white guys in suits, and everywhere we go we keep seeing them. Capital tour: they're at the back. Smithsonian, there they are. Back at our Hotel, again, they pop up. Out shopping--look, they're eating ice cream. It becomes a game, we start going on and off elevators. The two guys KNOW that we know they're following us, but they just smile and keep doing it.
They followed us around the whole week, five morons, for throwing snap cabs down the drain about 400 yards from the US capital building.
So if they were willing to do that to five teens in 1987, I'm sure this guy has some surveillance coming.
No, I don't know that. Don't you know that Muslims (who have committed some of them) are generally not leftists? They may vote that way, but that's because the right wing overtly pushes them away.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
To be honest, I consider myself a libertarian at heart, as I side with liberals on a lot of social issues, as sort of a live-and-let-live person. But it's the big-government socialism that kills it for me, as I think that's an anathema to personal liberty, as well as ramping up the ever-increasing national dept, which is going to leave our children a hell of an economic hole to crawl out of. Absolutely inexcusable, and history is going to look very badly at us unless we bring it under control.
The white supremacists have been denounced time and time again by the mainstream of our party - and by Trump too, but no one seems to mention that. But let's face it... the Democrats are the home of the vast majority of blacks, and a majority of Hispanics. Unfortunately, that means racists really only have the Republicans as a home, despite the fact that we don't want them, and would rather court blacks and Hispanics, which we've been trying to do unsuccessfully for years. But I think we've got a long way to go, and need to fix a lot of things in our party. This election cycle certainly hasn't helped matters.
But what do I do if I believe, say, my anti-illegal immigration stance (based on issues like sovereignty, security, and economics) happens to align with a racist who "just wants to keep Mexicans out of the country?" Or if I oppose affirmative action on principles of true equality but someone else doesn't want to give blacks a hand up? I can't *help* it if my policy choice aligns with some asshole's racist ideals, and I fear few Democrats will truly believe my explanation, that I'm not secretly some racist.
It's admittedly an uncomfortable situation for many Republicans like me. But the Democrat's economic policies are just too insane for me to willingly give them a mandate. Besides, I think our country is moving towards more liberal social positions without putting the D's in power.
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You're saying that because he was a fringe actor we shouldn't equate his actions with the right as a whole? That's fine and all, but it does go both ways.
read this and this.
I don't think I need to read those things, none of those have to do with the subject at hand. The subject being whether a group as a whole should be held responsible for it's fringe elements.
Why hasn't this CEO already been arrested like this guy?
http://www.wkyc.com/news/crime...
"Bring it, Secret Service!" *DING-DONG*
No, much of what the Republicans are planning to do is motivated by greed.
Have you read my blog lately?
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