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Japan's Population Falls At Fastest Rate Since 1968
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Japan's population, excluding resident foreigners, fell at the beginning of this year at its fastest pace since comparable figures were kept in 1968, highlighting the demographic challenge to economic growth. As of Jan. 1, the number of Japanese people fell by a record 308,084 from a year earlier to 125,583,658, marking the eighth consecutive year of declines, government data showed Wednesday. The number of births fell 2.9 percent from the previous year ago to 981,202, the lowest since comparable data became available in 1974. People aged 65 or older accounted for 27.2 percent of the total population, the highest ratio on record, while the ratio of those aged 14 or younger fell to a record low of 12.7 percent, the data showed. The number of registered foreign residents increased to 2,323,428, up 6.9 percent from a year earlier, according to the data.
Recent studies have shown that in the US the average man of any age has about half his grandfathers testosterone level. It would be interesting to see if Japan faces an even steeper decline among its males.
This has really got to do with Japanese women's roles in society and opportunities.
Japanese society says to Japanese women you can either have a child or a career . Seems Japanese woman are choosing a Career.
The times are a changing my friend.....
Have you seen Tokyo's population? That city could definitely use a decrease. Who the fuck wants to live in such close proximity to that many people?
you don't get to have lots of kids, and apparently, mot much in the way of dental care.
Who ... wants to live in such close proximity to that many people?
Apparently 13.5 million people do.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it dissolve.
Is killing teh sperm
What the hell happened in 1968? A record number of kaiju attacks?
There are poor places where there is over population and no education. They can screen 50,000 thousand people, on yearly basis, from those countries for health, age, non-criminal history and offer them permanent citizenship. This way they can increase thier gene pool and population and uplifting world poverty.
They were hungry...
In all practical aspects, Japan does not need to worry. Japan is one of the most crowded and densely populated areas in the world. Even with their existing problems, this is an advanced economy who can pick and choose how to manage their own country. If Japan thinks that they need people, then: 1. Japanese diaspora: Japan can always invite people with Japanese background to come, to study or to live in Japan from other countries. 2. Japan can attract top scientific talents to their research institutions. There is still a lot of talents all around the world who will come if scholarships are offered. 3. North Korea. Sooner or later there will be a ton of refugees from this country. If Japan thinks that they are fine with the natural decline in population, the following will be observed: 1. Less pressure to the infrastructure 2. The average population will be richer, more educated. 3. Poverty and Crime should be reduced to zero Is there a particular reason for Japan to worry?
Cool,story, bro.
Sorry to blow your mind, but the USA is BEHIND Japan on penis size:
https://www.pri.org/stories/20...
It's not like Tokyo is going "holy shit 13 million people is not enough! More births please!"
This is a direct result of the western occupation of Japan.
Japanese people are probably the most meticulously bred humans by far. They simply cannot tolerate the western influencing squeezing the country for all it's worth due to their genetics.
The only real value Japan offers is it's people. Which is what the west set out to conquer them for....
What?
"Japan's Population Falls At Fastest Rate Since 1968"
Faster than 9.8 m/s^2 ?
Keeping the population under control along with the immigration. What's not to like? Maybe they won't have to pay those gentlemen to stuff the riders into the subways anymore.
Uh huh...
The survey was conducted by a Japanese company. It is a bit peculiar that the Japanese came out of it significantly better than in the “Penis Size World Wide” website. There, Japan only averaged 10.92 cm (4.3”).
The results are based on self-measurement. Even though the measurements are used to make custom-made masturbators and we can assume it’s in the men’s best interest to be as precise as possible, I imagine men are more likely to unconsciously add a few centimeters, rather than deduct a few. Or maybe American men are just more honest with regard to their wieners? Then again, any Weiner reference probably won’t make my case stronger at this point.
The survey was only conducted among the 40 countries where Tenga sells its products. Once African and South American men develop an appetite for meticulously manufactured self-pleasuring tools, it might be a whole different ball game.
Nice try, micropeen boy.
Old people are known for dying. The problem will literally die out.
Ah yes, 'occupy.' The almost completely forgotten, stationary 'movement' that resembled nothing so much as a distributed Woodstock for the mentally ill.
Which is what the west set out to conquer them for.
Er, you might want to do a little research on planes, Hawaii, and god-emperors to realign your sense of reality to reality.
Faster than August 1945?
As a father of 2 kids, I've performed my evolutionary duty. :-) However, there are plenty of younger people in the US who aren't, and in my opinion they're being somewhat rational. Having kids is a big risk unless you just don't give a crap -- they cost a lot of money and you have to be much more careful about maintaining your income and savings than if you were on your own. Millenials are also skipping traditional adult rites of passage like marriage, house-buying, etc. that lay the groundwork for a family. Plus, those that do have kids are having fewer, later. Generally, people are less religious, have heard of birth control, and are less worried about child mortality, therefore less inclined to have "spare" children.
Japan has a few things that are really slowing their birthrate - almost zero permanent immigration, a very slow economy for the last 20 years, a traditional society that says women can have either children or a career but not both, and a reputation for a workaholic culture. People are just so busy spending their lives at work so they can keep their jobs that having a family comes second. This is a big reversal from the 1980s/1990s...I remember growing up hearing that Japan was taking over the world. MBA programs were toying with the idea of making Japanese language study a requirement if I remember correctly. This is similar to what China is doing now, but China has the population to sustain it in my opinion.
We in the US could be headed down this road too. Imagine if we close the borders and enter a period of economic stagnation. Couple this with the trend towards unstable employment, the gig economy, etc. Back in the 50s/60s, a man could count on being employed for life by a large US company and would take on the risk of a family, kids, house, car, etc. Now (IMO) we've let the pendulum swing too far back in favor of employers and removed any loyalty/stability either side had to the other. Hopefully people will realize that they want stability again once this Second Dotcom Bubble bursts and takes many of the sharing economy employers with it.
And don't compel them to assimilate or work! That'll take care of Japans problems!
The real effect on the Japanese population by WWII was at first to kill off nearly all Alpha males. That left the remaining population with queers, gays and lesbians and a very few reproducing males and females.
In 2017, the population is mostly queers, gays and lesbians; i.e. the Walking Dead!
If you want to have a replacement rate of 2.3 children per woman some women will need to have at least 3 kids. I'm lucky, my ex and I had excellent educations and very good jobs. However in Canada having more than 2 kids is in many ways an exception and there are lots of little things that are surprisingly biased against families larger than 4. I've seen in some cities that are more dog friendly than kid friendly and when they do have facilities or policies for small children it is for one child. So if most western countries require a woman to start a career before having children then the number of women having them will go down, if women are discourage from having their first child until after 30 it gets worse and if you make it difficult or almost weird for women to have more than 1 or 2 children then it's pretty much mathematically impossible to maintain a population without large amounts of immigration.
Also at some point our health care system started spending the majority of its money on people in their last 18 months of life. There are a lot of other wealth transfers from the young to older generations, house prices, government debt... There is likely some tipping point were the share of the economy that is given to 18 - 30 year olds becomes so small that they don't feel secure enough to start a family. My suspicion is that most western countries crossed that point a while ago.
Maybe if we started respecting and encouraging other people's culture rather than always invading and destroying they would flourish. Our arrogance is totally destructive.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
Japan is thinking hard about the future. If robots are indeed going to take all the jobs within 20 years then all kids born now will have no jobs when they graduate. Japan will be prepared.
4.3" is the Japanese average? Yeesh. I need to move to Japan, I'd clean house there.
It's really only the big end of town that worries about population decline.
Japan is horribly expensive to live in, and the Japanese would rather have a smaller population that let hordes of foreigners in.
The youth growing up can't afford to own their own home of any decent size, and so they've given up on home ownership and spend all their money on frivolous things. Having a family is not on anyone's bucket list, and abortion is rife.
Japan was ahead of the curve until the west finally caught up.
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I've had sex with a couple Japanese guys and I was very pleasantly surprised. When in Tokyo, I was also quite surprised by average height walking around town, I expected to be tall at 5'9" (around average in the US) but not so much.
Because the Rape of Nanking was such a respectable display of humility and positive culture.
Please tell me liberal academia isn't churning out people with this degree of self-loathing and gullible stupidity.
What are you? 4.5"?
Not sure how yet, but somehow robots will be involved in the solution.
Table-ized A.I.
Both China and India have well over 1.3 billion people each.
I'm sure they'll more than make up for any shortfall in the Japanese contribution to the global population.
You do realize Japan is quite xenophobic?
You spend your entire school life studying your ass off. You aren't supposed to do much outside of school except study. Having a relationship is discouraged to the extreme.
Then you get a job where you work 12 to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. You have no time to actually meet someone so the odds of having a relationship are slim. Added bonus. Your boss will treat you like shit. Everything you do will be criticized. I guess it's some mistaken belief that you'll work even harder.
On the unlikely event you find and marry someone at work, she has to quit her job and have babies. You get to keep working 12 to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. So if, by some miracle, you have children, you'll never see them.
No wonder young people are rejecting the entire social system and hiding from the world or committing suicide.
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Self-loathing fuck.
Current life span is about 75. I don't see people living to 150. Hell I don't see people WANTING to live that long in old age misery.
Good riddance, many people are just selfish, greedy and irresponsible jerks.
My neighbor, Robert Klark Graham, founder of the 'Nobel Sperm Bank' had a favorite slogan: "The smarter you are, the more children you should have." He would publish that as an advert in various Mensa publications. I attended some of his talks which were always uplifting and positive, but I never heard him mention the corollary to his slogan. (i.e. 'what about other people?')
In any case, we seem to have got that obvious evolutionary lesson backward. Certain populations reproduce like bunnies while the smart people are frugal in that sense. Where will this trend take us?
...omphaloskepsis often...
...of being the town despot,, like Boss Hogg or that character Leonardo DiCaprio plays in Django Unchained.
More room for activities!
Seven and three quarters inches here and that is without Cialis.
Article is a FUD piece. Americans are the best hung in the world. Germans are the least. Ask me how I know.
They seem to be the only country that's adapting to mineral and energy depletion. Other countries will have a rude awakening in a couple of years.
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> It should go OK as long as they don't let Christians in. They want people who want to support and be part of the society. Cristians are mandated by their belief to undermine non-Christian societies and when they have sufficient numbers take over.
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Because all people are exactly the same, and Somalia is exactly the same as Japan.
Majority of you are liberal environmentalists. There is nothing worse you can do for the environment than popping out another baby.
You can drive a gigantic diesel SUV and use plastic bags for everything and eat beef every day cooked over a coal fire, and as long as you didn't breed you'll be WAY greener than a Prius-driving tofu-eating vegan who bred.
You all should be admiring Japan's new achievement rather than fretting about how to help them grow their population.
Please supply a steady stream of over 18 years old women (maids please :) ).
:)
Willing to work overtime on weekends as well. LOL
> It should go OK as long as they don't let Christians in. They want people who want to support and be part of the society. Cristians are mandated by their belief to undermine non-Christian societies and when they have sufficient numbers take over.
While to certain extent this is true there is a big difference between what all but a tiny minority of Christians would want. Firstly very few of them oppose secular democratic governments. They would be happy to convert all the non-Christians that they can, but still have a secular government employing people of all faiths and representing everyone. Secondly all but a few support equal rights for all, whatever religion. They would not want non-Christians to be unable to testify in court against Christans, nor would they want to prevent non-Christians from building or maintaining places of worship, or worshiping in public. They would not see expression of another faith as blasphemy, punishable by state law.
Also they would not want non-Christians to be subject to a punitive tax to make them feel subdued, nor believe that they should be killed if they did not accept the inferior treatment. On a personal level, very few would condemn Christians for having non-Christian friends apart from befriending them in order to convert them (though I have met a number of Christians who only seem to befriend non-Christians for this purpose themselves)
The rest of the world could learn from their example and allow the earth's population to drop naturally.
Instead everyone falls back on knee-jerk beliefs that
- We need exponentially growing economies, which require exponentially growing populations, which are impossible to sustain on a finite planet
- Going to Mars will somehow alleviate overpopulation on Earth
- Populations are leveling off, which isn't related to the problem that we are over the planet's carrying capacity, drawing down and depleting resources
- Too few young people won't be able to support older ones, despite increases in productivity that allow 2% of the population to do what used to take 25%, to use the example of farming
- Lowering the population means eugenics or racism
- Human nature [insert opinion about human nature]
- Fusion or some other technology will save us (without population control it extends the overshoot leading to collapse)
- etc
All of the above beliefs are demonstrably wrong. There's no reason we can't allow the population to decrease without hurting anyone or any economy by simply having fewer children. Everyone would live in a world of more abundance per person. There would be as much culture as before and the species' chances of survival would increase.
The challenge is doing it. Step one is disabusing ourselves of the above beliefs.
Communes have government that does not do that.
And it;s a feature of capitalism that any government will do it. Why the hell do you think that government is the reason why it's prevalent? What part of the role or definition of government has that as its inevitable conclusion? Nothing. It's CAPITALISM that has this feeding off the work of others. By fucking definition. Those who own the means of production do not have the actual physical power to make that production happen, so they get others to do it and live off their effort.
The rich man will do anything for the poor man except get off his back.
That's what happens when you don't adopt the metric system.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
If we had never found the means to use fossil fuels but still gotten to 7 billion people, how much CO2 would we add to the atmosphere each year?
If the resources used by each USian like you were dropped to that of the average African, that would drop resource use by a factor of six. Not one person would need to be removed.
Greedy assholes are the problem, and to have one greedy asshole you need to have one greedy asshole born into the world. That doesn't make birth the reason for the shit the greedy asshole did.
So don't act like Japan did during the early 1900s?
I bet it fell even faster that year.
Maybe if we started respecting and encouraging other people's culture rather than always invading and destroying they would flourish. Our arrogance is totally destructive.
It was truly terrible how America, with no provocation at all suddenly decided, "HEY!, let's go and destroy teh culture of Japan. They haven't done a damn thing to us, but that's pretty suspicious, and no doubt.
The historical record is clear. America, for no reason whatsoever, decided to attack the most pacifistic country in the world, that being Japan. A massacre indeed, as Japan had no navy or army, and was completely defenseless.
Seriously, at some level, self loathing and self hatred becomes indistinguishable from insanity.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I guess the fastest rate of decline was over a few milliseconds in 1945.
Your doing it wrong.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
People are having fewer children because we're so productive and good at keeping them alive, there isn't as much incentive to spawn half a dozen or more for extra farm labor.
And we have social safety nets - like Social Security - so folks don't have secure their retirement by having a lot of kids to support them when they are old.
Hell I don't see people WANTING to live that long in old age misery.
The point you are missing is that there will be no "old age misery" until close to 150.
If you could feel like you were 40-50 until you reached about 130-140... why would you NOT want to do that?
It upends a lot of systems though, and drastically changes calculations around retirement.
Best prepare for it now though.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You're a tourist spending money. They like that. Try moving there. Now you are the foreigner they despise.
If we can't even make 80 the new 50 right now, I don't see 130 being the new 40.
Of course there is a "low birth rate" in Japan. Look at their Hentai. Human/Octopus/Alien hybrids probably don't show up on the census questionnaire.
Work less and fuck more.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Japan is one of the only countries that still has a racial criterion for citizenship, but I was in no way "despised." I was just considered "different." They were shocked that I could learn kanji, a system which actually has a lot more internal logic, which assists learnability, than outsiders give it credit for.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-rat...
How Mice Turned Their Private Paradise Into A Terrifying Dystopia
Universe 25 was a giant box designed to be a rodent utopia. The trouble was, this utopia did not have a benevolent creator. John B. Calhoun had designed quite a few mouse environments before he got to the 25th one, and didn't expect to be watching a happy story. Divided into "main squares" and then subdivided into levels, with ramps going up to "apartments," the place looked great, and was always kept stocked with food, but its inhabitants were doomed from the get-go.
Universe 25 started out with eight mice, four males and four females. By day 560, the mouse population reached 2,200, and then steadily declined back down to unrecoverable extinction. At the peak population, most mice spent every living second in the company of hundreds of other mice. They gathered in the main squares, waiting to be fed and occasionally attacking each other. Few females carried pregnancies to term, and the ones that did seemed to simply forget about their babies. They'd move half their litter away from danger and forget the rest. Sometimes they'd drop and abandon a baby while they were carrying it. ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
"Despise" is far too much. They'll never be rude to your face. And that isn't superficial, they genuinely mean no ill will, they really are civil.
But. Outsiders are outsiders. They embrace at arm's length (actually touching isn't very big) and that might surface in thoughts of who they consider for stuff, who they invite to stuff, who they're willing or begrudging to bless with their son/daughter.
I'm thinking it's only when It's Personal. They'll probably stay objective when, say, a company is picking a contract or vendor. Though, micro it down to "picking a resume" and the xeno effect might be a factor.
PS kanji is a clusterfuck and everyone knows it
Everybody knows that the massive increase in population, in the last century, is causing serious environmental issues.
But whenever a population is not growing as fast as it once was, it is considered a crises.
If only the mice had Netflix or some other form of virtual escape from their reality.
I suspect that humans are probably able to adapt to population densities far exceeding what mice can tolerate. Of course if we try that experiment we'll all go to prison for human atrocities.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
But they have the biggest dick as president. That must count for something.
wow, if the gravity constant has changed drastically in japan the olympic participants will have a hard setting any new records going any faster.
I kind of doubt that, or at least I'd be pretty damned surprised. If we look at the experiment we can do some math to see what kind of population density we're talking about.
Cage dimensions:
108 x 108 x 54 inches
629,856 cubic inches in volume
If we make a silly and low ball guess that his mice were 2 cubic inches in volume, that gives each mouse an environment which is 143.15 times it's own volume.
If the average human is 0.0711 cubic meters in volume then you end up with 10.178 cubic meters of habitat. If you go with very low ceilings then you're looking at 5 square meters per person. And keep in mind that's not just the place where you crash for the night, that represents the entire space that you spend your whole life in. On top of that the experiment didn't actually give the mice the run of that entire space, they were limited to the sides and bottom of the box.
Unit 731 was the epitome of high culture. Ancestral worship of war-criminals just needs to be accepted and appreciated for what it is! By the way, it wasn't a 'death march' so much as it was a spirited hike in the mountains.
Why yes, yes I am being a bit facetious. ;-)
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
On the other hand- despite food being available they stopped breeding.
And once enough mice died off, they didn't start breeding again.
That's damn strange.
It started with 4 mice. They started acting odd and killing each other long before reaching the space available. And their population peaked long before they reached the limit of available breeding spots (private housing so to speak).
Same thing happened with rats.
And we are mammals too.
I'm just raising the point that the japanese could have slid into a similar tho not identical behavioral sink. Their young men show the "beautiful ones" behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.