'Productivity Is Dangerous' (theoutline.com)

Simple enough by Krishnoid · 2017-12-19 08:42 · Score: 3, Funny

"How I Optimized My Morning Routine To Get More Done Than ever -- before 8 a.m.!"
The people posting links like this have a sickness, and we need to stop it before it gets out of hand.

Just swap their morning joe with decaf. Epidemic averted.

Re:Simple enough by Dutch+Gun · 2017-12-19 09:00 · Score: 2, Insightful

Maybe if the author had a hobby or something to occupy his free time, he wouldn't be worrying so much about how other people choose to spend theirs.

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Re:Simple enough by cayenne8 · 2017-12-19 09:11 · Score: 0, Informative

Yeah..wow.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone needs to enjoy life, as that work isn't the ONLY thing in life, and it shouldn't define you.
That being said, however.....there is NOTHING wrong with trying to make your work life as productive as possible. To do your best and to maximize your money making is a good thing to strive for!!!
This guff right here in this article, putting down work ethic, etc...sounds very millennial snowflake-ish.
I guess it is another one expecting a trophy for doing little more than showing up to work....occasionally.

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Re:Simple enough by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 09:17 · Score: 0

You forgot to mention that you're self-employed (even though you're effectively a civil servant) so you can deduct hookers and blackjack as business expenses. And that if anyone loses his job to an H1B, it's because they should "be moar gudz", and you'd know all about that because you work in a sector that's reserved for US citizens.
And that drunk driving is your constitutional right.
Clearly, you're having an off day.

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Re:Simple enough by cayenne8 · 2017-12-19 09:21 · Score: 1

LOL...I'm far from a civil servant.....
I hate to see ANY US citizen lose their job to a H1b.
But wow...I'm impressed that you've not only read but actually remembered some of my rants over the years.
I'd not have thought that anyone here really ever remembered much of what anyone said here, much less care about it.
Very interesting.

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Re:Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-19 09:43 · Score: 2, Insightful

I hate to see ANY US citizen lose their job to a H1b.
My concern is whether we're creating enough jobs to keep up with population, thus avoiding unemployment growth; and if we're providing the social safety net to carry people through unemployment.
One way or another, people lose jobs. Trade (including H1B labor trade) and technology do that; they also improve our standard-of-living. We take these things away, we get poorer, and the poorest suffer the most. That means the guy at the bottom... we need grocery baggers and burger flippers; he deserves to be recognized as an important part of the economy. The guy in the path of progress... we get richer because he lost his job; he's a big part of our economic growth.
We owe these people support. We owe it to them to carry them to the next job. We owe it to them to keep them out of poverty when their wage isn't enough. We owe it to them to make sure they're mobile, that they can compete for the limited opportunities above their station--not everyone can be an astronaut. because we only need five of them, but being a burger flipper right now shouldn't mean you're automatically-excluded from becoming something better later.
I want Americans to be secure. I want them to know they've got something to fall back on, and that they've got a future in a stable economy that can find a place for them. Maybe not today, but next month, or six months from now--and we'll carry you that far so you can take that opportunity when it comes.

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Re:Simple enough by AK+Marc · 2017-12-19 09:57 · Score: 1

They are getting paid to tell you that you are inadequate. The monetization of everyhing is the problem. Before the printing press, you only got paid for physical work you did or the physical result of that physical work. Now every idiot with 2 followers can sell advertising.

Also, I've known some self-help people. Most don't drink their own kool-aid.

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Re:Simple enough by reboot246 · 2017-12-19 11:05 · Score: 1

Some people are just morning people. I wake up by 4 AM and I'm just about shot by noon or 1 PM. I do my best work before most people even wake up.

Friends don't give friends decaf coffee. That stuff is usually pretty nasty.
Re:Simple enough by plopez · 2017-12-19 12:26 · Score: 1

That's too bad. It's better to come in late and leave late, even if it doesn't amount to more. Here are the scenarios:
1) Reboot comes in at 500. has lunch about 10, then goes home at three. Result: people think he slacking even though he has put in 10 hours.
2) Reboot comes in at 930 has lunch about noon, and then goes home and then goes home at 6pm after most managers and other coworkers start to go home. People think Reboot is diligent. Total hours worked: 8
So don't do it. We are trapped in the Matrix, a rigid and inhuman system.

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Re:Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:27 · Score: 0

Some people are just morning people. I wake up by 4 AM and I'm just about shot by noon or 1 PM. I do my best work before most people even wake up.
Now please shut up about it.
Re:Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:36 · Score: 1

Putting down work ethic seems like something a competitor would try to do, not snowflake-ish. Imagine if China or India somehow managed to instill a culture of apathy or resentment.
Re: Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 13:53 · Score: 0

There are some companies which cannot find local labor to complete tasks. Take Orange picking for instance. Tropicana and others have tried to hire American for ages. But because they pay their workers by the pound of oranges picked, they have had great difficulty finding American workers who will work hard enough to make it worth their while. Mexicans on the other hand clamber over each other at the opportunity to pick oranges seasonally to make money, because they see it as a window to their eventual citizenship, and the money they earn is worth far more in their home country to their families, than to an American individual and his family.
H1Bs work in see areas, but not in tech, that's for sure.
Re: Simple enough by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-19 15:30 · Score: 4, Interesting

There is NO social "safety net" in America. Trust me - been there, done that, thank God I survived.
There are plenty of long-term welfare dependency programs, don't get me wrong. But there's basically NOTHING for a normal productive worker who's temporarily down on his luck.
Don't believe me? Try it sometime! You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
Re:Simple enough by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 17:55 · Score: 1

That means the guy at the bottom... we need grocery baggers and burger flippers; he deserves to be recognized as an important part of the economy.
He hasn't come back with his usual "those jobs aren't intended for people to make a living at" response yet?

We owe these people support. We owe it to them to carry them to the next job. We owe it to them to keep them out of poverty when their wage isn't enough.
That explains it. He probably had an aneurysm when he read that.

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Re:Simple enough by lgw · 2017-12-19 17:59 · Score: 4, Informative

there is NOTHING wrong with trying to make your work life as productive as possible.
Extremes are bad for you. Moderation makes for a happier life.
But, really, TFA is using the wrong terminology. The proper rant is "stop confusing activity with productivity!" If you fill your life with some way to be busy at all time, I have to wonder what you're running from. Efficiency is a good thing, but continuous frantic activity is not, despite both being approaches to productivity.

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Re:Simple enough by recrudescence · 2017-12-19 22:30 · Score: 1

"Never mistake movement with action" (~ attr. Ernest Hemingway)
Re:Simple enough by KozmoStevnNaut · 2017-12-19 22:57 · Score: 2

That being said, however.....there is NOTHING wrong with trying to make your work life as productive as possible. To do your best and to maximize your money making is a good thing to strive for!!!
Why?
What if I don't feel any drive to earn more money than I actually need to live an enjoyable life? What if I care a lot more about doing enjoyable things, than I do about raising some imaginary "productivity" stat on an imaginary character sheet.
Sure, go ahead and try to maximize your productivity, if that actually, genuinely and honestly increases your happiness. If you take a deep look inside yourself, I think you'll find that there are other things you would rather do with your life.
And no matter how productive you seem to be, there is always someone ready to whip you bloody, for not being productive enough. A lot of the time, that person is you, which is supremely unhealthy.

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Re:Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 23:09 · Score: 0

there is NOTHING wrong with trying to make your work life as productive as possible. To do your best and to maximize your money making is a good thing to strive for!!!
Yes there is something wrong if it is at the expense of something else. But if the new productivity comes out of thin air without taking away from something else then sure, it is a good thing.
Maximizing fiat currency (=toy money, false value) making is not worthwhile.
Re: Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 23:49 · Score: 1

If they are paying per pound, at those rates, they are definitely NOT trying to hire Americans. Period.
Re:Simple enough by zifn4b · 2017-12-20 01:50 · Score: 1

Just swap their morning joe with decaf. Epidemic averted.
That won't stop the depression, anxiety and eventual health consequences such as high blood pressure and eventual heart attack that will follow from attempting to meet ridiculously unreasonable demands. We have a system whereby many people are in a constant, unnatural state of fight or flight response. As of 2016, the United States has the highest use of anti-depressant medication of any OECD country. That's solid evidence that we have a systemic cultural problem that is leading to large scale health problems for our citizens.

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Re:Simple enough by zifn4b · 2017-12-20 01:53 · Score: 1

Maybe if the author had a hobby or something to occupy his free time, he wouldn't be worrying so much about how other people choose to spend theirs.
I don't care how you run your life. If you want live a life like that, fine. It's not OK to have a system the imposes this lifestyle on everyone because people like you prefer it. That's forced coercion.

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Re:Simple enough by JackieBrown · 2017-12-20 02:16 · Score: 1

There are a few people who posts I enjoy reading. Yours is definitely one of them.
Re:Simple enough by cayenne8 · 2017-12-20 02:31 · Score: 1

What if I don't feel any drive to earn more money than I actually need to live an enjoyable life? What if I care a lot more about doing enjoyable things, than I do about raising some imaginary "productivity" stat on an imaginary character sheet.
Sure, go ahead and try to maximize your productivity, if that actually, genuinely and honestly increases your happiness. If you take a deep look inside yourself, I think you'll find that there are other things you would rather do with your life.
There's lots of things in life that make me happy....unfortunately, they all pretty much require money, and a good deal of it.
The ONLY reason I work, is to earn money so that I can afford to buy and do the things I like and enjoy doing.
Short of winning the powerball and having enough money to live the rest of my days on without having to work again, I don't know that I'll ever earn quite enough to say it is enough to make me truly enjoyable life.
To me, the ultimate enjoyable life, would be to be fiscally set, and be able to spend my days doing things I love an not have to worry about earning money to provide myself a living (and it likely wouldn't be terribly much more extravagant than I currently live) and fund my various interests and activities.

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Re:Simple enough by KozmoStevnNaut · 2017-12-20 02:57 · Score: 2

I don't know that I'll ever earn quite enough to say it is enough to make me truly enjoyable life.
In that case, you probably need to seriously re-evaluate your toxic materialistic outlook on life, or learn how to balance a budget.
Or you seriously need to change careers, if your current employment pays so little.

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Re: Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-20 02:59 · Score: 0

There is NO social "safety net" in America. Trust me - been there, done that, thank God I survived.
Oh, I'm aware. I'm trying to fix it.

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Re:Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-20 03:02 · Score: 1

He hasn't come back with his usual "those jobs aren't intended for people to make a living at" response yet?
Well, they're minimum-wage jobs.

Under these codes, in the industries covered, child labor has been eliminated. The work day and the work week have been shortened. Minimum wages have been established and other wages adjusted toward a rising standard of living.[...]
[...]Another question arises as to whether in fixing minimum wages on the basis of an hourly or weekly wage we have reached into the heart of the problem which is to provide such annual earnings for the lowest paid worker as will meet his minimum needs.
The minimum wage is intended to provide such annual earnings as for the lowest-paid worker to meet his minimum needs. That's what it was created for.

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Re:Simple enough by cayenne8 · 2017-12-20 03:49 · Score: 1

In that case, you probably need to seriously re-evaluate your toxic materialistic outlook on life, or learn how to balance a budget.
Or you seriously need to change careers, if your current employment pays so little.

Actually, I pretty much hate my job now, but I can't quit because I can't think of anything else that would ramp up quickly enough to be as lucrative.
While I like material things...and I DO....I pretty much have darned near everything I really want at this time, except for perhaps, a nicer house more customized in layout for my interests and needs.
But to be truly happy, and maybe you missed this in my post...is to have enough money to NOT have to work, and just spend my days doing what I like and find interesting.
But short of a lottery win, I don't see that happening.

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Re:Simple enough by whitroth · 2017-12-20 05:26 · Score: 1

So, do *you* answer phone calls/emails/texts from work at any hour? Do you get overtime for that (hahahahahhahaha!)? Does your boss expect a response, every time the fart, day or night, and tell you "whatever it takes", who cares if you are trying to have a life?
Why the *fsck* do you need to be "SO PRODUCTIVE"? And it's people like you who jump on those of us who actually work to live, instead of living to work. That's why he's writing this, you freakin' Calvinist.
Re:Simple enough by Larry+Lightbulb · 2017-12-20 05:28 · Score: 1

3) Manager comes in at 8:30 and sees Reboot not starting to work until 9:30. Manager thinks Reboot is slacking. 4) Reboot goes home after everyone else does. Nobody sees Reboot do this so they don't know if Reboot waits just 1 minute or is working an additional nn hours. Manager thinks Reboot is playing the system.
Re:Simple enough by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 07:47 · Score: 0

The minimum wage is intended to make it uneconomical to employ people who are basically useless (e.g. hog-noxious, bluefuxturgid) so that they will become dependent on the public dole (i.e the taxpayer (i.e.e. me)) and beholden to the so-called "Democrats".
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Re:Simple enough by david_thornley · 2017-12-20 07:59 · Score: 1

The minimum wage was created with the intent that one person working full-time could support a family in a decent style.

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Re:Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-20 09:06 · Score: 1

Well, yes, it was created in a time where we expect humans to have families so as to continue the species.

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Re:Simple enough by Hognoxious · 2017-12-20 09:20 · Score: 0

The minimum wage is intended to provide such annual earnings as for the lowest-paid worker to meet his minimum needs. That's what it was created for.

Normally, he responds along the lines that those jobs are for teens who live at home. Or women, who rely on a man to provide the essentials. Or black people, who don't like to live in houses anyway.
I wonder if the gun that he brags about keeping taped to the underside of his dining table - with one under the hammer - has come loose and blown his brains out. Wouldn't that be a shame?

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Re:Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-20 09:45 · Score: 1

Normally, he responds along the lines that those jobs are for teens who live at home.
I eventually (by 2022) want my Universal Dividend to pay out at age 16+ (but not lower) so teenagers in distressed households don't sacrifice their school performance by working a job to help keep the household solvent. The additional income will let teens learn about fiscal responsibility or, if they're already in very poor households (not really certain that's possible at this point...), provide additional support for their families.

Or women, who rely on a man to provide the essentials.
My Universal Dividend pays per-adult, so a two-adult household has two Dividends to help support it. Many women also work professional jobs, and may even bring the larger income in the household--the "reverse breadwinner effect". As well, many women live alone or are single mothers, and so need the capacity to support themselves and their families in the entire, whether by wage or assistance. There are many cases in which the income of the woman is an important fiscal concern in the household.

Or black people, who don't like to live in houses anyway.
Here in the city, a lot of black people live in tents due to extreme poverty; however, being that they live in the city, it's most-likely that they prefer to live in apartments rather than tents. My Universal Dividend will push many receiving HUD assistance over the income limit, and raise the remainder so as to be eligible for a smaller subsidy.
Take the folks I came across the other day, when going to have my suit repaired: a black man and his wife, living in a tent, trying to prepare for the upcoming snow. Between them, they would have $1,400 of Dividend each month. HUD can easily provide a small subsidy which will move this couple into an apartment instead, where they'd prefer to live; and with the additional consumer spending power in the city, there would be jobs available for them to work and bring further income, living better lives. It's clear to me that jobs and homes are what these people want most, and what they need.
Between the Universal Dividend and a Federal minimum wage pinned to 1/1000 of the annual Dividend per hour--that is,$8,769/year $8.78/hr minimum wage--a working individual in 2016 would take home $13.15/hr at full-time, or $2,192/month. A couple with a minimum-wage worker between them would bring the equivalent of $17.54/hr or $2,923/month. In Maryland, our minimum wage is $9.25/hr and will be $10.25/hr next year, so the numbers in 2018 will be somewhat higher. I'm certain this is enough for most families to get by without further assistance, although we can provide assistance for any families facing higher costs-of-living with minimal Federal expenditure compared to today.
So you see, it really isn't difficult to consider teens living at home, women, and black people in our economic policies. They all have the same needs: food, shelter, and economic security.

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Re:Simple enough by Hognoxious · 2017-12-20 10:44 · Score: 0

I love the way you're responding to me as if I'm him. Are you drunk or just stupid?

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Re:Simple enough by bluefoxlucid · 2017-12-21 03:06 · Score: 1

Bored, mostly. Plus I'm supposed to have an answer for everything, apparently.

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Re:Simple enough by Hognoxious · 2017-12-22 17:22 · Score: 1

A refreshingly concise answer, for once ;-)

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Take a nap. by Major_Disorder · 2017-12-19 08:42 · Score: 4, Informative

It is the most productive use you will ever find for your time.

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Re: Take a nap. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:06 · Score: 0

I work remotely most days and one of the best things I find mid day after lunch is to take a nice 15 minute power nap. Breaks my day into two parts and feels like two short 4 hour work days. Works very well for me and I'm often far ahead of project schedule, giving me even more power nap opportunities.
Re: Take a nap. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:31 · Score: 0

"Power nap", I love that idiotic phrase. It's just a friggin' nap.
Re: Take a nap. by thegreatbob · 2017-12-19 17:55 · Score: 1

It's a concise way of describing a short nap taken with a specific goal.

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Re: Take a nap. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 23:09 · Score: 0

Also it has been shown that there is an "ideal" nap length. Too short and you get no benefit, too long and you end up feeling worse - unsurprisingly groggy and lethargic, like you've just been woken in the middle of a deep sleep.
I'd call a nap of optimal length a "power nap".
Re:Take a nap. by zifn4b · 2017-12-20 01:54 · Score: 1

It is the most productive use you will ever find for your time.
Nay, forget napping, it is a more productive use of your time to post on slashdot

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well... by fattmatt · 2017-12-19 08:44 · Score: 5, Insightful

well that was a waste of time!

Re:well... by asylumx · 2017-12-19 08:46 · Score: 3, Insightful

Seriously, is there a point to this article?
Re: well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:49 · Score: 5, Insightful

itâ(TM)s an oroborous of clickbait talking about clickbait /.
News for clicks
Stuff with referral links
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:01 · Score: 0

I only read the title.
I can be much more productive in my commenting that way.
Re:well... by Brett+Buck · 2017-12-19 09:02 · Score: 0

He appears to have some issue, bizarrely, with Nestle', but no. My takeaway was that he needed to be slapped up side the head and told to act like a fucking grown-up.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:05 · Score: 0

Seriously, is there a point to this article?
It's probably someone's end of semester project on irony in modern media.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:16 · Score: 1

You just don't know jack shit about Nestle, hating on them is perfectly legit and well founded. Maybe you're just unread.
Re:well... by networkBoy · 2017-12-19 09:25 · Score: 1

Depends, is Nestle run by Calvinists? If so then sure...
He certainly has a hard-on for the Calvinists...
Of course I always visualize Calvinists as folks who play http://www.picpak.net/calvin/calvinballcalvinball

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Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:20 · Score: 0

There's nothing remotely bizarre about anyone's hatred of Nestle. They are well known for their evil ways.
That said, what's with a pointless rant unrelated to anything nerdy? Did /. suddenly become some unknown's blog platform?
Re: well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 11:46 · Score: 0

Not sure whatâ(TM)s going on after reading that. Hope youâ(TM)re ok though.
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Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:08 · Score: 0

All this copy & paste bullshit is annoying and not funny. I think creimer is as annoying and creepy as sin, but keep it somehow interesting to read or just don't bother.
Proof I am not creimer: that last sentence was a compound sentence with a complex predicate, and it was all done without grammar mistakes.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:27 · Score: 0

OK not creimer. creimer would be better off copy pasting too, it would further optimize his revenue streams. We are big marketers and creimer just pissed us off on a pheromone deal.
Here are some posts from creimer's old accounts. I'll start with his love of child brides.
If all my assets were liquidated, I would still have enough cash to buy a new car and head off to Mexico to find a chica to marry.
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You're aware that are some states in the U.S. that allow underage marriage as young as 14 years old?
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As for my comment, I've heard stories of engineers retiring at 50, moving to Mexico and marrying underage girls. Since I work with ex-military, the Philippines is a popular retirement spot for marrying underage girls as well. It's all about getting the most bang for your retirement dollars.
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That only works if you retire to Mexico, build a mansion (by local standards), marry an underage sweet thing and bequeath all your possessions to the village.
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You need to be more specific. I wrote 3,000+ comments this year.
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Nah... I just do it to piss off my trolls and make coffee money off of them.
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We have different priorities. You want to climb the corporate ladder. I want to own the corporate ladder.
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Your bitch licks your balls. Most people don't brag about practicing bestiality. Is there a reason why you married a dog and not a goat?
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My employers don't care about what my Slashdot trolls think. Now go off and lick your balls somewhere else.
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iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete. As a Sprint customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always offer me a new iPhone if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.
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Miracle workers are never afraid to ask for a second opinion. Supervisor gave me his opinion ? and a mess to clean up. Lesson learned from this incident: if something isn't quite broken, break it.
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So you can turn around call me a liar again? People have been playing that game with me for years.
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Based on what I've read about Uber, he need to tell the boys to clean up their locker room behavior, zip up their pants, and attend sensitivity training until everyone agrees that women are not sexual objects.
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Which doesn't violate the Slashdot TOS. If you got a problem with that, take it up with management.
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This year I've posted ~4,000 comments.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 13:02 · Score: 0

Let us worship Creimer, and beg for His mercy upon us. Many of us have blasphemed against Creimer, who is our Lord and Savior. Please forgive us, Creimer, for we have sinned against You. We beg you, Creimer, our God, for your mercy.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 14:22 · Score: 0

Careful, he just might show you his well-muscled leg and shower you with his heavy cream.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 14:44 · Score: 0

Let us worship Creimer, and beg for His mercy upon us. Many of us have blasphemed against Creimer, who is our Lord and Savior. Please forgive us, Creimer, for we have sinned against You. We beg you, Creimer, our God, for your mercy.
Re:well... by Pseudonym · 2017-12-19 15:00 · Score: 2

The difference between this and most articles that superficially look like it, is that this one is honest. The author admits he's jerking off and thinks you should too.

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Re: well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 15:32 · Score: 0

Have you stopped raping your neighbor's goats yet?
Re:well... by AmiMoJo · 2017-12-19 16:07 · Score: 1

Print it off and give it to your boss when they ask why you are browsing Slashdot again.

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Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 16:47 · Score: 0

I guess creimer really is god; he was able to gain weight on his very own low-carb diet while doing powerlifting at his gym.
Transubstantiation .... of vanilla lattes into moobs.
Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 17:43 · Score: 0

Let us worship Creimer, and beg for His mercy upon us. Many of us have blasphemed against Creimer, who is our Lord and Savior. Please forgive us, Creimer, for we have sinned against You. We beg you, Creimer, our God, for your mercy.
Re:well... by MrKaos · 2017-12-19 18:32 · Score: 1

Seriously, is there a point to this article?
To make you less productive.

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And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:48 · Score: 0, Troll

Do nothing because if you do science, you'll make a nuclear bomb so just do nothin. Work is hard. Capitalism is DUM!

Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:18 · Score: 2, Insightful

Actually Communism's usual failure mode is the opposite.
In general the problem is that "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" rewards the needy and punishes the capable. You very quickly get people manufacturing needs and faking their hard work under communism.
Capitalisms main failure modes are that it can't really handle anything that you can't exclude others from using unless they pay (which includes most art, any sort of large scale infrastructure subject to network effects, and) and that it degrades badly if individual actors can lie to each other (snake oil salsemen, bait and switch, etc.) Under capitalism you tend to get essential infrastructure owned by huge monopolies and rampant scamming.
That's why most modern economies are a hybrid with a private sector that is regulated to prevent monopolies and fraud, and a public sector that collects taxes and pays for some amount of infrastructure.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2017-12-19 09:49 · Score: 1

You very quickly get people manufacturing needs and faking their hard work under communism.
Well, maybe the latter, but asking for simple toilet paper is hardly "manufacturing needs".

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Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-19 12:16 · Score: 4, Informative

"You very quickly get people manufacturing needs and faking their hard work under communism."
Sure, capitalism doesn't have anybody manufacturing needs and faking their hard work.
Except, in the world's capitalist bastion (the USA) research suggests anybody who says they work more than 40 hours a week is lying, most white collar workers actually do more like two or three cumulative hours of productive work a day, the performance you get from an executive is inversely proportional to their salary, and entire job classes, many of them "elite," are demonstrably no better than flipping coins (e.g. financial managers).
Lying about your usefulness and inventing make work to keep the proles in line isn't a communist thing. It's a more-than-one-person-in-a-group thing. Actually, I bet most people isolated in the wilderness would also lie to themselves about how much work they actually did.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:41 · Score: 0

research suggests anybody who says they work more than 40 hours a week is lying
Then that research is axiomatically false as I've done it and known others who have as well.
Ooohhhhh..... You're conflating 8+ hours of a machine running with 8+ hours of a human doing work which includes thinking (something you can't measure).
Re: And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-19 15:35 · Score: 1

Only if you live in an uncivilized culture where people *use toilet paper*. Gross.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Pseudonym · 2017-12-19 16:26 · Score: 1

Stop shilling for Big Toilet Paper. Stick it to The Man and get a bidet.

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Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 00:58 · Score: 0

You still need to dry your ... aha, I see ... a bidet with a fan ... nice!
Time consuming, but comfortable nevertheless.
Re: And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Cederic · 2017-12-20 07:19 · Score: 1

We can't all afford to have our arses licked clean by a virgin, sorry.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by wyHunter · 2017-12-20 07:49 · Score: 1

Define productive. Yes, in a good workday you might only get 3 really good hours of productive work - but there's ab unch of other scutt work that needs doing like administrivia that also consumes time. I daresay that the definition of 'productive' matters.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-20 08:17 · Score: 1

It does, but IIRC the definition of productive was pretty broad. Basically, work related to the job. What they found was that there's a lot of socializing, Facebook, etc. that goes on. The point of the study wasn't that we're all goofing off at work, it was that we really don't work as much as we claim to, and in fact can't work as much as we claim to. When, for example, a programmer puts on headphones and does a few hours of no distractions, intense coding, that might easily be equivalent to the amount of actual work that other people did that day, just concentrated in one go.
Re:And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by wyHunter · 2017-12-20 09:01 · Score: 1

I agree with this one!
Re: And there's socialism for you in a nutshell by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-20 12:53 · Score: 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Meta before it had a label by TWX · 2017-12-19 08:49 · Score: 1

If you're waking up at 4 a.m. to write 1,000 words about how you write 1,000 words every day, what are you actually getting done? Just stay in bed.

Yet, there were movies starring real actors about fake actors making fake movies. There are stage-shows starring real actors about making fake stage shows. There are movies starring real actors about fake actors making fake shows. Same for television shows, etc. The point is, if they're being paid then who are they to not take the easy approach? Write or otherwise create content for what you know if they'll pay for for it.

Now, it's pretty stupid for everyone else (or anyone else) to pay good money for this kind of stuff, but that's another discussion.

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Re:Meta before it had a label by Mal-2 · 2017-12-19 12:26 · Score: 1

Yet, there were movies starring real actors about fake actors making fake movies.
This sounds stupid on the face of it, and has certainly been used badly, but there are some great films based on this premise. Bowfinger and A Serbian Film both come to mind, as vastly different as they are, and I can't really imagine either one having chosen a better trope to start from.

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Re:Meta before it had a label by TWX · 2017-12-20 02:17 · Score: 1

And here I was thinking of Kiss Me Kate and Royal Wedding.

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Isn't this article by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:49 · Score: 0

exactly what he is ranting about?

Re:Isn't this article by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:03 · Score: 0

I'm going to write an article about this article to tell people to stop writing articles and relax instead.
Re:Isn't this article by tbuddy · 2017-12-19 09:22 · Score: 0

I would totally comment on that article were it posted here. Would not read. That website gave me a strong case of the cringe.
Re:Isn't this article by magarity · 2017-12-19 09:45 · Score: 1

exactly what he is ranting about?
The grammar is too horrific to discern the exact subject.

Have never thought of productivity as hours worked by ranton · 2017-12-19 08:50 · Score: 4, Insightful

I have never really thought of productivity as how many hours of work I was able to fit into the day. It has always been how much output can I get for a given amount of input. Essentially how can I get more done with less effort. I'm not saying that is a better definition, but it is always how I have thought of it.

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What the hell is this? by rsilvergun · 2017-12-19 08:51 · Score: 5, Interesting

It reads like an extended /. rant that gets modded up to +3 before finally being modded back down to -1 troll. Who greenlit this?

People are more productive because we live in an incredibly competitive world. There's 6 billion+ people out there are most are dirt poor and a good chunk of them can work 12 hr/day 7 days a week for 20 years before dying of a heart attack. That's your competition. And as productivity increases there's less work to go around and more competition for what's left.

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Re:What the hell is this? by networkBoy · 2017-12-19 09:29 · Score: 3, Interesting

The real trick is to *appear* competitive, while embracing being a "Loser" https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ and producing enough that your clueless bosses are happy and staying off the sociopath's radar.
automation is a god-send in this case. Just automate as much of your job as possible and then execute said automation while doing something else that appears productive but is entertaining. E.g. everyone knows what FB looks like in a browser window, but /. just looks like a wall of text, and since you're typing it appears that you're working dutifully, even when the boss sits literally next to you in the open plan office. (use a small browser window, with minimal UI).
Just sayin...

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Re:What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:47 · Score: 1

And as productivity increases there's less work to go around and more competition for what's left.
That's the puzzle. At least until we have "a cure for cancer" or, more generally, solutions for all the world's major problems, there's essentially an unlimited amount of real meaningful work that needs doing. And, thanks to science and technology, production of basic necessities (food, shelter, clothes, etc.) is sufficiently efficient that it's possible for everyone on the planet to have a simple comfortable life.
So, even though there an unlimited supply of work that needs doing and enough basic necessities for everyone on the planet to live comfortable, we still live in a world where somewhere around 20,000 children a day die of poverty. There's no fundamental reason that the whole world couldn't be like Denmark. But somehow it isn't.
Personally, I use to blame the rich people. But then a bunch of poor people voted for Trump so he could give himself and his billionaire friends a big tax cut. So now I blame the stupid poor people. :)
Re: What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 15:41 · Score: 0

If you don't understand why the disinherited American working class voted for Trump, perhaps you best go down among the common people and try to learn how they live.
Re:What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 15:43 · Score: 0

E.g. everyone knows what FB looks like in a browser window, but /. just looks like a wall of text,
This is why at work I almost exclusively browse /.
Re:What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 19:39 · Score: 0

At least until we have "a cure for cancer" or, more generally, solutions for all the world's major problems, there's essentially an unlimited amount of real meaningful work that needs doing.
Then what the FUCK are you doing posting here?
Re:What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 22:08 · Score: 0

Hillary would have kept poor kids poor for profit too... the left is just as cancerous as the right.
Re:What the hell is this? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 05:02 · Score: 0

Ok, so vote 3rd party, leave it blank, stay home from the election entirely. That still doesn't explain why a poor person would vote for Trump.
Re:What the hell is this? by chaotixx · 2017-12-20 07:20 · Score: 1

Just do all your browsing in Lynx.
Re:What the hell is this? by networkBoy · 2017-12-20 11:28 · Score: 1

FB is shit in lynx. (well it's shit in general, but it's extra shit in lynx).

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I'm gone fishing by ruddk · 2017-12-19 08:52 · Score: 3, Interesting

I'm gone fishing
I got me a line
Nothing I do is gonna make the difference
So I'm taking the time

And you ain't never gonna be happy
Anyhow, anyway
So I'm gone fishing
And I'm going today

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Whaaa? by redoregon69 · 2017-12-19 08:52 · Score: 1

WTF is this clown yapping about??? I honestly don't get what his point is, if anything.

Re:Whaaa? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:13 · Score: 0

That's not the point. The point is to get people to read the article to get ad hits or to share the article so someone else might read it and hit the ads. The more confusing, sensationalist, or invalid arguments something makes the more hits it'll make because you become so emotional upset them that you have to dive further in and attempt to enlighten anyone. You completely miss the point that those mistakes were on purpose so you'd increase your interaction with the site, which is exactly what you just did (and what I'm doing now).
The summary is full of clickbait bullshit. This is a pure trash article. I wonder how much someone paid to get it here. Please don't click on any links in the article and please avoid visiting The Outline.
Re:Whaaa? by networkBoy · 2017-12-19 09:31 · Score: 2

Calvinists are evil.
(that's what I got)

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This article is exactly what it argues against. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:53 · Score: 0

This article commits the exact mistake it's taking others to task for. What are you accomplishing by writing this? I don't even understand the point of this article, or what use anyone could possibly get from it. I guess like, don't click on click bait or something? Thanks, I'll remember that.

stop reading them by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:53 · Score: 0

i think the best thing to boost your productivity would be to stop reading articles and watching videos where titles start with "10" or "Top 10"

Re:stop reading them by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 13:57 · Score: 1

Boost your productivity with this one neat trick.

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Paging Fox Butterfield by Trailer+Trash · 2017-12-19 08:54 · Score: 3, Insightful

"Without fail, it’s the most privileged people who feel the need to Do Something"

Yeah, maybe that's why they're "privileged".

How did this anti-capitalist bullshit rant make it to "news for nerds, stuff that matters"?

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Brett+Buck · 2017-12-19 09:07 · Score: 0

Anti-capitalist rants are the bread-and-butter of /.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:08 · Score: 1

Bitch about people being productive. Next up; bitch about productive people not providing you free health care.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by hey! · 2017-12-19 09:19 · Score: 2

"Productivity" is probably the wrong word here. "Activity" might be better.
People often start doing *too* many things when they don't know *what* to do. You see this with entrepreneurs who are failing at that difficult transition from tiny early startup to something too big for one person. These people are in a high status position, but they don't know what to do with it. What they should do is make the transition from hands-on idea man to corporate leader, hire someone who can do that, or sell out. What they often end up doing is torpedoing their own business with unproductive or even counter-productive activity.
People sometimes act as if suffering makes them deserving. Voluntarily partaking in useless suffering only makes you deserving of scorn. The best advice you can give someone who is overextended in his business is this: "focus on the stuff that really energizes you, hire people to do the stuff that drains you *then let them do their f'in job*."

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:20 · Score: 0

Bitch about people being productive. Next up; bitch about productive people not providing you free health care.
After they poison you with their smog generating crypto currency BS.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:49 · Score: 0

anti-capitalist? do you actually like advertising? i guess they really are putting something in the water.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:05 · Score: 0

Here's an idea: turn off the internet (just your internet).
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by chispito · 2017-12-19 10:08 · Score: 1

How did this anti-capitalist bullshit rant make it to "news for nerds, stuff that matters"?
From the top of the page:
Posted by msmash

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:49 · Score: 0

Preach on, good brother! You have well earned your tiki torch!
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Trailer+Trash · 2017-12-19 12:04 · Score: 1

Yes, I like advertising. That's how sites like Slashdot exist without me having to pay for them. It actually costs money to run something like this, and that money has to come from somewhere.

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Re: Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 13:01 · Score: 0

Anti-protestant too, as New York and London are Jewish centers of modern capitalism, banking/finance cartels running the show
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:34 · Score: 1

Well, people who aren't privileged don't need to feel the need, they are shooed from one "do this" to the next "do that" anyway, no need to come up with things to occupy themselves with.

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by KozmoStevnNaut · 2017-12-19 23:28 · Score: 1

So you're perfectly OK with poisoning your attention span, wasting bandwidth and creating a gigantic vector for malware?
Fuck no.

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 00:16 · Score: 0

What does work have to do with capitalism? The dogma that you have to work is much stronger in extreme left-wing positions. A true capitalist would see no problem in not working and living off the income that is generated by his capital.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by blahplusplus · 2017-12-20 00:57 · Score: 1

"Without fail, it’s the most privileged people who feel the need to Do Something"
Yeah, maybe that's why they're "privileged".
How did this anti-capitalist bullshit rant make it to "news for nerds, stuff that matters"?
Because historically illiterate dipshit fake nerds like you simply don't get the free market fairy is a myth. Real nerds want to know what is actually true and how reality works because society is always changing, so that means constantly reassessing and challenging sacred cows. Capitalists didn't just hand working people their rights they had to fight and die literally for them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Trailer+Trash · 2017-12-21 11:36 · Score: 1

It's interesting how comments like this get up to +5, then downmodded a few days later.

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Rakarra · 2017-12-22 09:37 · Score: 1

So you're perfectly OK with poisoning your attention span, wasting bandwidth and creating a gigantic vector for malware?
Fuck no.
So did you donate to Slashdot? You can disable advertising then.
Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by KozmoStevnNaut · 2017-12-22 21:45 · Score: 1

I have, and I have had the option to disable advertising checked, for as long as I've been able to.

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Re:Paging Fox Butterfield by Rakarra · 2017-12-25 22:07 · Score: 1

Good man.

Re: Sounds like another bitter millenial by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:54 · Score: 0

Huh? What makes this sound like a millennial? I thought the guy would be in his 40s as this analysis while stupidly presented is correct.

Maybe you should like stop blaming others for your problems and shortcomings.

Easy by nospam007 · 2017-12-19 08:54 · Score: 5, Insightful

"So every morning, I get messages asking me to click through to articles like "How I Optimized My Morning Routine To Get More Done Than ever -"

Well, just don't read these messages and you'll be amazed how much shit you can do during that time.

Re:Easy by Quirkz · 2017-12-19 09:33 · Score: 1

There is some logic behind the idea that the people who are all about productivity are probably more likely to be doing things like writing articles. You'd expect maybe a 5:1 or even 10:1 ratio between articles about productivity and articles about taking it easy and enjoying yourself.
I suspect the ratio isn't that high, because some of those compulsively productive people are probably writing articles about enjoyment (which they're either also feeling guilty about, or have planned out like a champ).
But there's a lot of truth in the fact that you need to take responsibility and self-select what goes into your feed. Opt in, drop out; whatever works for you.

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Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:14 · Score: 0

What a bullshit.
Re:Easy by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2017-12-19 11:55 · Score: 1

Well, just don't read these messages and you'll be amazed how much shit you can do during that time.
I use the potty time to read these messages, you insensitive clod!

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Re:Easy by Shogun37 · 2017-12-19 13:27 · Score: 1

You'd almost think he doesn't know what a spam filter is. 0o

TLDNR by Zorro · 2017-12-19 08:56 · Score: 1

NT ;)

I award you no points... by Alypius · 2017-12-19 08:56 · Score: 1

What, exactly, is so wrong about working for Nestle?

200+ words to say...what, again?

Re:I award you no points... by DavidHumus · 2017-12-19 09:57 · Score: 2

Perhaps he says that because Nestle is known for dressing saleswoman as nurses to encourage poor Africans not to breastfeed - which has a lot of health benefits for infants - but to spend money on baby formula.
Re: I award you no points... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:00 · Score: 0

Selling bottled water in Africa is a pointless money grab. It won't help anyone, the people who need it can't afford the bottle nor would a bottle actually provide enough water for more than a couple hours.

Well, I'm safe. by fahrbot-bot · 2017-12-19 08:57 · Score: 1

Productivity Is Dangerous

That's why I spend my day reading /.

[ And to chill from reading the news, which, more often than not nowadays, makes me angry. ]

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Re:Well, I'm safe. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:11 · Score: 0

Agreed +1
we follow in the footsteps of our hero Peter Gibbons whose famous quote from Office Space rings true to this day:
Space out?
Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

Re: Sounds like another bitter millenial by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 08:59 · Score: 0

He can't because he's too busy writing company memos about proper memo creation.

Slashdot -1 for "Article" by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:00 · Score: 1

as stated in title

WARNING: Do not read the article by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:02 · Score: 0

You will be that much closer to becoming Mr. Donald Trump if you allow your brain to ingest this article.

Working for the singularity... by Camel+Pilot · 2017-12-19 09:07 · Score: 1

Remember if you aren't using your time productively to bring about the singularity in the future the singularity may resurrect you and punish you for your frivolous waste of time (humbug advertising for Nestle indeed).

Need more productivity! by TJHook3r · 2017-12-19 09:09 · Score: 1

The more productive people we have, the more the rest of us slackers can sit around enjoying cheap tech (and no jobs)!

"Spam" by DogDude · 2017-12-19 09:10 · Score: 1

Hit the "spam" button on your email client and move on with your day.

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Data mining by ITRambo · 2017-12-19 09:10 · Score: 1

Your Facebook user name and data are scraped to be added to whatever a company may have on you, when clicking on these liked spam links. The information will sit forever growing, or be used to target ads at you and your friends. Never click on these links, or take an "IQ" or "trivia" test on Facebook. People that do that are unwittingly giving a little bit more of their privacy, including their thought processes, away.

Re: Data mining by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 10:45 · Score: 0

I was under the impression that not clicking on it was the IQ test.
Re:Data mining by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-19 12:35 · Score: 1

Depends on whether you lie or not. Facebook thinks I'm a senior citizen. Google is convinced I'm 13. The dissonance between ads I get is almost entertaining enough not to block them.

What are people for? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:17 · Score: 0

The last words of the Edward G. Robinson character in Soylent Green. Are we here to accomplish something important, or just eat, sleep, and have sex? That's the existential question. The busy people have their answer. What's yours?

Re:What are people for? by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:25 · Score: 1

I want to be able when I close my eyes forever to say that I got the most enjoyment out of what's been possible. I want to be able to look back and say "Yup. Was worth it."

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Re: What are people for? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 01:01 · Score: 0

Fallacy, most busy people aren't accomplishing anything of import

Some people have goals in life by OldMugwump · 2017-12-19 09:17 · Score: 1

... and for them, productivity is important. I agree that most productivity *advice* is BS, but productivity itself, is not. People differ. If you're happy to accomplish little in your life - fine. Enjoy. Other people are different. They're just as entitled as you are to their own goals and priorities - whatever they are. Don't go telling them their goals are not important, or wrong. That's rude.

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Re:Some people have goals in life by perlstar · 2017-12-19 09:38 · Score: 2

Agreed. Nothing wrong with productivity itself.
My reading of the article:
Dedicating yourself to a carefully chosen purpose is cool, but the author is ranting against people who have become obsessed with productivity for it's own sake, as a form of idolatry.
My takeaway:
Stop being so damn busy all the time and spend more time reflecting on what's actually important.
Re:Some people have goals in life by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 09:41 · Score: 1

The thing is this, laddie: there's productivity, and there's the appearance of productivity.
Which do you think is more visible? Which do you think is easier to measure?

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Re:Some people have goals in life by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-19 12:36 · Score: 1

Answers:
1. The latter. 2. The latter.
Which do you think is most valuable in terms of respect and money granted to the individual? A. The latter.
And that's the problem with our society.
Re:Some people have goals in life by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:58 · Score: 0

So, since you're addressing people who see productivity as their importance in life, let's rephrase: "Stop being so damn busy all the time and spend more time on what *I* think you should be doing."
Re:Some people have goals in life by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 20:44 · Score: 0

Exactly. Author seems to think that trying to achieve things outside of work is evil. Fuck that shit. I work to pay for shelter and food... and to finance my other goals. You know, fulfilling, meaningful, non-soul-crushing ones that I actually give a flying fuck about. If getting up at 4am and snoozing at work is required to achieve them then hell yeah, I'll do that.
Re:Some people have goals in life by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 00:24 · Score: 0

Those people you talk about are often at the root of problems in projects. They tend to bite off more than they can chew and the ensuing bellyache is not just their personal problem (which would be fine, I guess) but the problem of the whole team. They create a tense atmosphere. They may make questionable decisions that seem to be good for their own career but are not optimal for the careers of others. From a purely utilitarian point of view those people tend to choose strictly dominated strategies (just to put this argument on a suitably technocratic footing).

Send Feedback by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:18 · Score: 0

Remember there's a feedback email link at the bottom of every Slashdot page. If you feel this article and summary are trash, then email and let them know. Summaries should be more that just the first few sentences copied from the first link. Why have we allowed Slashdot's quality to slowly degrade this far?

send emails to: feedback@slashdot.org

Re: Sounds like another bitter millenial by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 09:22 · Score: 0

How about that fact that he rails against anyone who works hard?

Does he? I thought he was railing against the ones who try to fake it.

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It's just Slavery 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:31 · Score: 0

The US worked out that the best slaves are ones that pay for their own keep. Much less drama than the first bunch.

Now the slaves live under an illusion of freedom, one paycheck or doctors bill away from ruination, yet almost completely conditioned into compliance.

USA !!!

Re:It's just Slavery 2.0 by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:24 · Score: 1

It's just like we saw the flaws in colonialism. You not only have to pacify the area, you have to do administration and these ingrates hate you for bringing civilization, progress and diseases.
It's way better to let them administer themselves and pay for their resources with guns so they can shoot each other instead of your soldiers.

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try unsubscribe by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:34 · Score: 0

Hey Vincent - Try the unsubscribe link in those emails, then you'll have more time to sleep and less crap to spend time deleting (or getting upset about).

Obligatory quote by zuki · 2017-12-19 09:35 · Score: 1

"There's a sucker born every minute" W.C. Fields

All the Internet did is to make it easier to find an exponentially greater number of suckers. Can you blame them, really?

Re:Obligatory quote by mccrew · 2017-12-19 09:54 · Score: 1

Can't tell if your attribution is serious or ironically meme-y.

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Re: Being busy is a virtue? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:35 · Score: 0

Religion puts a little policeman into the heads of Americans to make them compliant.

No need to bother with the problems in this life as your big payoff will be in the next, promise !!!

Now get back to work !!

Re:Being busy is a virtue? by tsqr · 2017-12-19 09:43 · Score: 1

The whole Protestant Work Ethic is based on the premise that if you're successful, then God will favor you and you'll be guaranteed entry to Heaven.

Where on earth did you get that idea? You have it backwards. The concept behind the Protestant Work Ethic is that is that hard work, discipline and frugality are a result of belief in the values espoused by the Protestant faith. In other words, doing what you need to do to get into Heaven will also bring you material rewards in this life.

Productivity IS dangerous by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 09:47 · Score: 0

It takes away from my time on Slashdot.

This rant is a product of by Dracos · 2017-12-19 09:53 · Score: 1

Social media fatigue
Information overload
Democracy of voice

If you let anyone say what they want in an attention-seeking environment, you get overloaded with garbage. To paraphrase, "A thousand bloggers, given infinite time, will eventually produce a collection of worthwhile and well-considered life hacks." These articles are distracting clickbait masquerading as productivity tips... wholly counterproductive.

Re:This rant is a product of by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:21 · Score: 1

But a thousand bloggers, given money for clicks, will just BLOW YOUR MIND!!!!

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Anubis+IV · 2017-12-19 09:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

The author is incorrectly using "productive" (i.e. getting work done) and "busy" (i.e. doing stuff) interchangeably, when the two actually have distinct meanings. Which is somewhat ironic, since he's basically trying to argue that there's an important distinction being lost...which is exactly the distinction he seems to be unaware of.

Once you swap out "productivity" for "busyness", you quickly realize what he's really getting at: the pursuit of busyness without productivity is a waste of time. Which is an obvious fact that most of us figured out early in our careers, but I guess kudos to him for coming to that realization?

The non-product by istartedi · 2017-12-19 10:04 · Score: 1

I realized this in my 20s. I decided that there was something called "the non-product" that society produces to make up for the fact that we can produce necessary goods with so few people.

Another way I've put it here on Slashdot is that in our search for a better substitute, so far all we've come up with is "war and Facebook".

So. As obnoxious and pointless as their blog, or app, or whatever other "productivity" is, at least it's not raining actual fire down on you... yet.

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TLDR, TBMA (too busy making acronyms) by budsetr · 2017-12-19 10:22 · Score: 1

ROTFLMAO

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Archangel+Michael · 2017-12-19 10:24 · Score: 4, Insightful

One of the early lessons in life I learned was, it wasn't how hard you worked, it was only important to work hard when the boss was looking. If you worked hard, and finished early, and the boss came around, you didn't do enough. If you didn't work at all when the boss wasn't looking but was busy when he showed up, you were okay.

That was 30 years ago, and it is still true today. Optics are the only thing that matters.

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Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by ErichTheRed · 2017-12-19 10:42 · Score: 4, Insightful

My problem as I'm getting older (42 now...) is that I have a life outside of IT/technology. I've got a family, house and 2 children. That doesn't mean I'm some lazy middle manager or project manager clawing my way up the ladder to a no-work position and abandoning life-long learning. The issue I have is that younger people who haven't had the benefit of a life outside of tech are pumping out thing after thing after thing...and they're just different enough from each other and what's come before that you have to spend time looking at all of it or risk falling behind. The first dotcom bubble had the 25-year-old CEO, and this time we have relentless social media and DevOps tool companies. Amazon, Microsoft, Google and name-your-startup must have their employees permanently connected to a Red Bull IV to get that much work out of them.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with hard work...I do it every day. What I don't think the Millennial crowd has had yet is a good stomping from their employers to give them some perspective. Just like the last bubble, the VC funding is going to dry up for the startups, and the established tech companies are going to pull back and wait for a recovery. The free meals, bring-your-dog-to-work environments and concierge service are going to be replaced with layoff notices. And while these people will have many accomplishments under their belt, I'll bet some of them are going to wake up, look around and realize they've been giving 90 or 100 hours a week to an employer who just threw them out on the street.

Don't live to work...companies are not going to be loyal to you anymore. Work hard, give good value for money, but slow down and enjoy your life while you can.

Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by trybywrench · 2017-12-19 11:12 · Score: 1

"My problem as I'm getting older (42 now...) "

"And while these people will have many accomplishments under their belt, I'll bet some of them are going to wake up, look around and realize they've been giving 90 or 100 hours a week to an employer who just threw them out on the street."

that perspective or actual event happens at about 40 (I'm 41)

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Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:09 · Score: 0

What I don't think the Millennial crowd has had yet is a good stomping from their employers to give them some perspective. Just like the last bubble....
Millenials started graduating highschool during that bubble. They were born in the grind, molded by it. They have yet to have an opportunity for work-life balance. The generational trends prove this. Fewer marriages, fewer sexual partners, fewer children, fewer home owners, fewer vacations. There is nothing else that they can do to stay afloat making stagnant wages and babyboomers wrecking the economy for selfish gains.
If you aren't doing the same, you are either in the way or taking more than you deserve and will be laid off. That is the prisoner's dilemma, the legacy of older generations.
Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-19 12:42 · Score: 1

Japan had that problem. It probably still does. Along with a sky high middle aged male suicide rate.
Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 12:43 · Score: 0

... is a good stomping from their employers ...

Many millennials realize that 'get an education' doesn't work, that 'buy a house' isn't possible; they're getting stomped-on already.

...employees permanently connected to a Red Bull IV ...

There was an article earlier in the year that US employees who take a sick day, don't get a pay-rise that year. This is probably the effect of fewer life commitments and workplace stack-ranking, not imitating the Animal Farm horse, who truly believes that 'boss knows best'.
Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 19:53 · Score: 0

What I don't think the Millennial crowd has had yet is a good stomping from their employers to give them some perspective.
We call them "strivers" but they're just yuppies all over again. They get that stomping every day and they love it. They don't know what to do with themselves without it. It turns out that some people really are their fucking khakis.
The rest of us millennials are indeed slowing down and enjoying our lives, or as our boomer parents call it, "never amounting to anything." I wouldn't bank on Social Security if I were you.
Re:Totally agree, and I'm not a lazy idiot by ErichTheRed · 2017-12-20 04:14 · Score: 1

They may have been born in the grind, but they were in college through the worst of the bubble. Around 2004 the Web 2.0 bubble and social media started inflating, then 2008 happened, but in technology smartphones started going crazy, followed by the DevOps and cloud/container/serverless pushes. Technology has pretty much been immune to the housing crash, IF you were working for a web startup or a software/cloud company.
So, I respectfully disagree - they really haven't had a good stomping yet overall. There are horror stories, and plenty of peoples' jobs have been sent to name-your-low-cost-country or eliminated, but for the subset who brag on social media about how productive they are, hardship has been elusive. It's been repeating itself the same way it did in 1998-1999...anyone who can spell DevOps and construct a deployment pipeline out of 20,000 open source tools has it made, is getting paid handsomely and can hop from job to job every 6 months for massive pay raises. Tech companies and startups are starting to roll out the ridiculous "keep you at work" perks like 3 free meals a day and "fun" workspaces to try winning the talent war.
If you spend your first few years out of school in an environment like this, you could be forgiven for assuming it works this way forever. The reality is that bubbles pop, employers who fell all over themselves to hire you suddenly pull back, and all the niceness disappears. I never worked in the startup world, but I sure put in a lot of crazy hours in my 20s. It took a few stompings to realize that you need to work hard and keep yourself valuable, BUT not let employers take advantage of you.

The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by AtariEric · 2017-12-19 10:45 · Score: 4, Insightful

The most important thing about the Protestant work ethic is not that Protestants think being busy is a virtue, it's that they use that so-called ethic to put people who don't fit their idea of "busy" down. It's there to ostracize people who don't fit into their mold. If they don't like you, you can't be busy or productive enough - they will find or invent a justification and persecute you with that.

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Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 19:07 · Score: 0

Well, I'm sure they'll stop "putting you down" around the same time you stop writing envious rants about how much money protestants have.
Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 21:10 · Score: 0

Never heard of "Protestant work ethic" before this page came up.
Still don't know what it is. Just that you're against it. Whatever it is.
Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:17 · Score: 1

Basically it's "stay busy so you don't notice how you get bullshitted".

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Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 02:40 · Score: 0

Yes, yes, yes, but you haven't as much money as the Japanese, and they aren't protestant, and you are envius of them. You loathe Al Gore BECAUSE his money shows that wealth doesn't arrive from your god's glory of your idiotic faith. And you have no idea how wealthy the OP is compared to you, yet you want it to fit your perception: that people are poorer than you because your god denies them, making you holy.
Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 03:36 · Score: 0

*citation needed
I love judgmental anecdotes about what Protestants do, based on personal anecdotes that are entirely imaginary.
Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 08:52 · Score: 0

How insular are you? Just google the phrase; it's been around for over a century. In English and German. Books are titled with it. Your gross ignorance isn't worth posting about. "Look at me! I'm a know-nothing! And proud of it!"
Re:The thing about the Protestant work ethic... by david_thornley · 2017-12-20 10:14 · Score: 1

It's connected to Calvinism, I think. One of the ideas behind Calvinism is that the elect go to Heaven, and are blessed with success on Earth, while everyone else has less success and goes to Hell. This means that you keep yourself busy doing things to you can tell yourself that you're successful and must be one of the elect going to Heaven. The lazy bums are obviously not of the elect, are going to Hell, and are therefore inferior to you (you're not going to Hell, are you?).
It strikes me as not being all that similar to what that Jesus guy said. It also strikes me as a way to feel smug and superior and not help anyone less successful than you. Arguably, it played a part in the development of European civilization, but it's also inflicted more harm on the world than most religious ideas.

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Old Man Yells At Cloud by Chelloveck · 2017-12-19 11:02 · Score: 1

Next up on Slashdot, "Old Man Yells At Cloud". What happened next will astonish you!

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Re:Old Man Yells At Cloud by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:17 · Score: 1

The ultimate top 10 things that WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!!!

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post to undo accidental incorrect moderation, oops by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 11:17 · Score: 0

post to undo accidental incorrect moderation, sorry

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 11:18 · Score: 1

A corollary is that when you come in early or stay late, make sure everyone knows. When you come in late or leave early, sneak out the back.

This sounds like by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 11:29 · Score: 0

This sounds like the dawning of the new age of enlightenment, no time for that now the boss is coming over.

it's his life by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 11:29 · Score: 0

Woud should take care of yours. If that person want to stay awake to days, hit the head against the wall it's his problem. Stop whim and take care of your life. Yeah lazy people don't accomplish much and usually complain a lot.

I think you're misreading it by rsilvergun · 2017-12-19 12:11 · Score: 1

mostly because it's so badly written. By 'Do Something' here means to work really hard and not get anything really worth while out of it. e.g. the whole 'keeping up with the Jones'. It's like that line from Clerks (I think, you can keep me honest here if I'm wrong): "I may not live well but at least I don't have to work hard to do it".

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by ceoyoyo · 2017-12-19 12:19 · Score: 1

Your definition isn't quite correct, but it's better than that of the subject of the article. Yours is the definition of efficiency. Productivity would be the total output. The one in the article is something else... stupidity?

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by thePsychologist · 2017-12-19 13:39 · Score: 1

Exactly. In my field of academia, the only thing that really counts is number of publications. So you have a couple of people that sit at their desk from 9-5, but many that do 99% of their best work in the middle of the night and never show up at the office. Both get good work done.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Hognoxious · 2017-12-19 13:51 · Score: 1

Productivity would be the total output.

Wrong. Productivity is output per unit of input. Usually the input is labour hours.

Funnily enough there's a word for output. Can you guess what it is?

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Re: Sounds like another bitter millenial by blackomegax · 2017-12-19 14:44 · Score: 2, Insightful

And you sound like a protestant cuck who's been slaved away their entire life. Stockholm syndrome. Look it up, bub.

This article by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 15:45 · Score: 0

NEVER IMPROVE!!

what a jerk by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 15:47 · Score: 0

Ok, I'm all for working toward a goal and not a timestamp. One of my favorite things to do is get a lab process automated and go out to an early happy hour, but the guy writing TFA is just a jerk.

First, this guy needs to go see Schindler's List, or watch some documentary about what it was like to live under a fascist government. Sleeping in to avoid work wasn't really a great option in fascism. Productivity pushes today are not the same.

Maybe a documentary on living conditions today would be good too. His idea that anyone can just take a year off to smoke out just doesn't fit with the need most of us have for things like food and shelter.

It's probably the least stupid thing in there, but the idea that showing up on time for meetings is some sort of religious conspiracy really gets to me. I'm sorry dude, I value my time too, and I'd like to go home at a reasonable time. As a society, we show up on time and try to be productive at work so that those of us who do have to work to survive also get to have some time when we're not working.

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by skam240 · 2017-12-19 16:08 · Score: 1

You know what works a million times better? Not slacking off when you're done. Go ask your boss for more work and pretty soon you'll be a favorite rather than just coasting along. That is, unless he's a terrible boss in which case you should find another job.

Your advice seems like a solid path towards mediocrity. Take some pride in your work.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by grumpy_old_grandpa · 2017-12-19 16:11 · Score: 1

Your strategy have probably worked out fine towards your bosses. However, have you considered your team mates?

If I ask you for something, but get the fifth lousy excuse as to why you cannot and will not do anything, I'll just start working around you instead. And if I get to chance, I'll happily back-stab you to get rid of the drag on the team.

How many jobs and teams did you say you've been with over the last 30 years?

Wrong mindset by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 19:03 · Score: 0

Qoute: " being busy as if it were a virtue."

Being busy is just doing things. Productivity is doing the right things.

I guess the author has some sort of misunderstanding about productivity.

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-19 19:14 · Score: 0

It must be nice working for a fucking unicorn, does he shit ice cream too?

Here's the meaning of life by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:15 · Score: 1

And it's free too:

Imagine that you're going to die today when you lie in bed and close your eyes, it's going to be forever. Try to be able to say "Yup. Had a good run, it's been worth it".

If you can say that: You win.

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Mandatory XKCD by orsayman · 2017-12-19 21:21 · Score: 1

https://xkcd.com/874/

Re:Being busy is a virtue? by Opportunist · 2017-12-19 21:30 · Score: 1

Unlike the heaven lie, people can see through the materialistic one. That's why communism failed while religion still works. They both technically promise the same thing: Work hard today and you'll be living in paradise tomorrow.

Communism was just stupid enough to claim that this paradise will be while people are still alive, so they could easily see that they're bullshitted. Way harder to do with religions that promise the whole paradise bit for an afterlife where you can't simply debunk their lie.

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Momo by bickerdyke · 2017-12-19 22:24 · Score: 1

Read this.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by KozmoStevnNaut · 2017-12-19 23:02 · Score: 1

You seem to think of work as something that's somehow "done" at some point.

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What an idiot by thegarbz · 2017-12-20 00:06 · Score: 1

I often see shit like, "Ten Habits I Have QUIT to Get More Done," and I think, "Maybe quit writing posts like this."

Why? How would it make the person more productive if they stopped doing their job of writing articles that get page hits and likes? Is this guy too stupid to realise that these articles exist not because someone wants to share some amazing fact about their life, but rather that they want to put food on their table?

Re:What an idiot by david_thornley · 2017-12-20 10:17 · Score: 1

Why should I read something specifically so that a guy I don't know can put food on his table? I read for entertainment, information, instruction, inspiration, and probably some other words beginning with vowels. If someone writes something I like, I'm happy to let that person have some of my money or eyeball time.

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Re:What an idiot by thegarbz · 2017-12-20 20:39 · Score: 1

Indeed, but the point he was making was not that it wasn't productive to read, he was criticizing the person writing as being unproductive.
Doing your day job is far more productive to your life than not doing it.

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Re:Being busy is a virtue? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 01:06 · Score: 0

At first communism only promised a little less hell on Earth, and at the time it delivered.

However, just a little less of a bad thing is still not that much of a good thing. In short, my warning is that lure of communism is not dead forever, and it will rear its head again when greed inevitably brings back the hell on Earth. Communism is just a retrograde stadium of capitalism, a sort of periodic super-crisis. We can just sit on our hands and do nothing about it (or loudly and demonstratively do nothing about it, in ire), or we can think forward and try to actually do something about it.

Re:Being busy is a virtue? by Opportunist · 2017-12-20 03:02 · Score: 1

The promises of Capitalism and Communism are similar, with subtle but very important differences. The Capitalist promise and lure is "Work hard, and one day you will be living in paradise". The Communist promise is "Work hard, and one day we'll all be living in paradise".

While it looks similar, it has a vastly different psychological effect when (not if) failure sets in. In the communist system, due to us all being affected, we all failed, and thus the system did. The capitalist lure is a much more personal one: If YOU didn't get rich, YOU failed. The Capitalist system can still claim that the system itself isn't faulty because the promise it makes is a personal one, not a collective one.

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Don't get out of bed before 10 AM by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 03:19 · Score: 0

And I feel fine ðYZ

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Archangel+Michael · 2017-12-20 05:58 · Score: 1

Take some pride in your work

I learned that when I was fired from my very first job. The good job (pride) I was doing when the boss wasn't looking was immaterial. I was 15 when I learned that lesson. It sucked. Pride doesn't bring in a paycheck.

There is no failure if you learn something in the process. I learned how to never get fired again.

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Agreed by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 06:10 · Score: 0

"Productivity is Dangerous"... I agree, that's why I'm here posting on Slashdot.

Work without purpose.... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 07:43 · Score: 0

...is empty motion. Ponder that.

Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by TeknoHog · 2017-12-20 08:03 · Score: 1

Exactly. In my field of academia, the only thing that really counts is number of publications.

Which isn't fundamentally much better than counting office hours. Both are ways of appearing busy.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by epine · 2017-12-20 10:54 · Score: 1

That was 30 years ago, and it is still true today. Optics are the only thing that matters.

Have you taken a good look at optics lately?

New optical fibres for high-capacity optical communications — 2016

That's enough bandwidth growth to support a personal productivity panopticon, where everything you do is summarized and assessed by Santa's little HR elves.

But I get it. You've wedged a wooden shoe into your PPP link, and the pan-optical future has not yet arrived at your particular below C-level employment backwater.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by skam240 · 2017-12-20 11:04 · Score: 1

Wow, way to ignore everything I said but one point. As I stated before, your advice is the pathway to mediocrity. If you have significant amounts of time to slack off then you should be asking for more work and not just looking busy otherwise you just look like everyone else who took longer to finish. This is how I have advanced my own career and it is the people who do this whose careers I now help to advance.

Your boss in your initial story had the same problem with you that I would have, you don't seem to have a strong work ethic. The worst part is that in a 15 year old this is understandable, as an adult though, stating that was what you learned from that event I find disconcerting.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by skam240 · 2017-12-20 11:06 · Score: 1

Yeah, that's why I suggest asking for more when what is assigned is finished. That's just a brilliant deduction you have come up with there.

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Re:Have never thought of productivity as hours wor by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-20 12:57 · Score: 0

Ah, Schrodinger's Law of Labor.

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