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Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views (bloomberg.com)
According to a new Pew Research Center study, 72 percent of those polled (from a sample of 4,594 adults) think it's likely companies such as Facebook and Twitter actively censor political views that they consider objectionable. The study finds that Americans don't trust those companies to be impartial when it comes to partisan politics. Bloomberg reports: Republicans, more than their Democratic counterparts, displayed concern over perceived political bias. Eighty-five percent of Republicans and those who labeled themselves conservative independents said it's likely that social media platforms censor political speech. And 64 percent of Republicans think technology companies support the views of liberals over conservatives. The majority of Democrats, meanwhile, think it's likely that social media platforms censor political viewpoints, coming in at 62 percent. But only about a quarter of Democrats worry that these companies support the views of conservatives over liberals.
As volatile as politics are now, I wouldn't trust anyone to be "objective" anymore. Shit, even my local donut shop is starting to get too heavy-handed with the politics on their Facebook page.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Water is wet, bears shit in woods, Sun rises in the east, and FB and Twitter censor anything that isn't "progressive".
"Determined by algorithm" doesn't mean the result is impartial. It just means it happened systematically.
I don't understand why it is that anyone trusts these companies at all when it comes to anything.
This is what happens when you let psychopaths and children run companies whose audiences are psychopaths and children.
I know that Facebook doesn't censor my political views, as I already do that for my own postings. Twitter, censoring nothing is easy as I don't use that service.
The Roman Rule: The one who says it cannot be done shall not interrupt the one who is doing it.
Fuck "most Americans". They've already proven they're a little less aware than flatworms, and can't be trusted with self-government. Thank goodness we have an Electoral College to keep us from making any big mistakes, right?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Basically total freedom of speech means nazism and child porn included. If you don't agree you agree to censorship.
"We're worried that all these wealthy, successful geniuses who invent and operate our revolutionary technologies are a bunch of mentally disturbed libtards!"
I hate the thought that we may look back fondly one day soon on an earlier era where most businesses welcomed all customers, regardless of their political beliefs. The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised to see most Silicon Valley-based social media platforms outright banning all posts supporting Trump by the 2020 elections, combined with a backlash from the right that only ratchets up the anger on both sides.
It's just not healthy for us to take politics this personally. A similar thing happened in the U.S. in the 1850's, with Congressmen literally beating each other on the Senate floor. And it ultimately lead to a civil war.
... and that's a good thing, here's why.
Does anyone else remember when free speech was an unalloyed good, and now certain people mock it as "freeze peach?"
Good times.
This story, which suggests more right-wingers think companies are biased toward left-wing politics reminds me of a fun quote: "Reality has a liberal bias." I suspect, based on politics in the USA at the moment, Republicans are running out of excuses as to why the world doesn't agree with their views. Suspecting censorship and blaming "fake news" seems to be all they have remaining to keep their bubble intact.
It's kind of like watching religious people claim evolution is fake or that you can't test for the existence of God because He needs to be taken on faith. The amount of mental twisting and denial is amazing and horrifying to watch.
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Social media censorship? More likely that all of your "friends" got sick of your political rants and hid your posts from their news feeds.
Frankly I'm surprised that most Amecican are even capable of thinking.
In my opinion, the issue became palpable in the 1990s with the beginning of the consumer internet age, the massive expansion of telecommunications powers, and the beginnings of the anti-public education campaign. The truth is that the vast majority of people in American have no clue how these businesses work or how their tech works. And they're OK with it because they like what their tech gives them AND they actually like complaining about it. Everyone wants an easy life of luxurious rebellion.
"Yes, I want to be able to say three words to my handheld device and for that device to tell me exactly how to get home... but I HATE that this corporation knows where I live! They have too much power!"
Thus, I can't be surprised when told that people love their Facebook and Twitter with one tongue and speak conspiracy with another. We keep teaching people be exactly like this.
or Democrats. They want whatever brings in the most money. Their "diversity" initiatives are just to more workers so they can depress wages. These companies campaign for the same low taxes, lax labor regulations and lax environmental rules as everybody else. They give a little more to Democrats but that's only because they're headquarters are located in Democratic strongholds like Seattle & California.
Make no mistake, the "Us vs Them" isn't "Tech Company vs Republican" it is and always has been working class vs ruling class.
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It has been this way for a long time. You only noticed recently. Sorry for your loss. RIP 1999 for me :(
As volatile as politics are now, I wouldn't trust anyone to be "objective" anymore.
What are "objective" political beliefs?
If I go into a grocery store believing that the bread is in aisle three then when I turn out to be wrong I can adjust my beliefs.
But how do I know if my political beliefs are wrong? There's the middle ground fallacy - that the correct political beliefs are those that are held by the most people. But history isn't kind to that criterium.
How do I know if my political beliefs are "objective"?
I would settle for a moment of peace where every "friend" on Facebook or Twitter didn't feel the need to bombard with insipid inspirational quotes and the tiniest of details on every moment of their boring fucking lives. "I just took a shit this morning, and so here's an inspirational quote about shitting that I absolutely need to share with the world," said every friend and relative of mine on Facebook every day.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Tech companies aren't biased against Republicans
How many times has Obama's Twitter account been deleted compared to Trump?
I follow a lot of people who are both liberal and conservative, on Twitter and Facebook. I have see tons more conservatives being hit by things like shadow bans or outright bans on Twitter than I have seen any liberals affected.
It's pretty obvious Twitter hires quite a few people to police abuse on Twitter, and some themselves abuse that power to moderate that which they do not like reading.
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Hi,
They are right - Facebook and Twitter DO censor political views. Simply to respect the local laws.
I, for example, am German - if my opinion was that Hitler was great and the Holocaust didn't happen, I'm sure that Facebook would censor it.
Different rules of censorship may apply in different countries. In some countries, simply showing breasts/nipples will result in censorship. But, let's face it, censorship happens and Facebook does it. Everywhere.
All the best,
Till
Barring some yuuuge change, we are headed for a civil war or split-up. When too much political energy is wasted on nasty red/blue fights, it may be time to go separate ways. Otherwise, nothing of use will get done on the Federal level.
Why have a Federal gov't if all they do is bicker and redo/undo each others' laws and spending every cycle? Politics is rarely smooth, but this is shifting into destruction. It's watching sausages being destroyed, not made.
Table-ized A.I.
As an American it saddens me to truthfully say that most Americans today are dumbasses. Most especially, those who regularly ingest the mental poison that is Fox News are the dumbest of the dumb and - not surprisingly for a group locked into the Religious Right - believe their bullshit with religious fervor and are thus immutable to logic and reason. Jesus wept.
Well, in this case "objective" generally means letting people shoot their mouths off without censoring them for it, even if they're dumbasses who you strongly disagree with--in fact *especially* if they're dumbasses who you strongly disagree with. If every social media company only allows people to speak who agree with them, then all you're going to get is an echo chamber that, like an inbred trailer park, only gets more-and-more stupid, radical, and out-of-touch over time.
Letting the other side speak is how we remind ourselves that the world isn't just comprised of our own fragrant farts.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Because it keeps the people who live for the chance to tell someone else how to live something to do that's pretty much harmless. Much better than letting them indulge their desires to tell you what to do...
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
nothing of use will get done on the Federal level.
This is a feature, not a bug. There's a LOT that is more efficiently done at the state level anyway and doesn't require federal intervention. Please note that there is a big difference between a federal government and a national one.
Barring some yuuuge change, we are headed for a civil war or split-up.
I'm hoping that Millennials will turn back from the brink when they realize that there isn't an app for civil war.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Somebody please mod "The Fat Bastard" crap down!
creimer's child bride retired military buddy suggested to him to "hide in plain sight" so creimer picked up "The Fat Bastard" as his new sock puppet user name!
I hate the thought that we may look back fondly one day soon on an earlier era where most businesses welcomed all customers, regardless of their political beliefs.
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So continuing the game of hypothetical questions, if you were a Jewish person who had lost friends and family to the Nazi death camps and you were working back in the kitchen of a Jewish delicatessen and Hitler walked in and placed an order - what would you do? Would you be like "Here Mr. Hitler, sir, I cooked up your order as best I could - even though I don't agree with your political beliefs. I do so hope you like it!"
In a certain sense, the problem is not political beliefs, per se, it is the actions that result from those beliefs. If Hitler had merely believed that Jews should be exterminated then that might be something one could overlook in the name of polite civility. But Hitler actually did quite a bit to cause Jewish people to be sent to death camps which is much harder to excuse.
And here's the thing. Trump and his associates and his supporters are actually doing things that are cause horrific and unnecessary suffering for people in certain vulnerable populations - poor American children who need healthcare, people from foreign countries trying escape violence and persecution, etc. When Kirstjen Nielsen decides to go eat at a Mexican restaurant, that's only slightly less extreme than Joseph Goebbels fronting up to a Jewish delicatessen.
I mean, here are these people who have done these incredibly cruel and sadistic things to people in certain vulnerable populations - but then somehow it doesn't occur to them that people in these vulnerable populations might be upset about it and not like them? I suppose someone like Kirstjen Nielsen must see herself as a decent person. Wow, talk about living in a bubble!
If you're going go to great effort to do cruel and sadistic things to people then at least have the decency to accept that they're not going to like you.
Here are some posts from creimer's old account that was blocked and renamed by Slashdot management. I'll start with his love of child brides.
If all my assets were liquidated, I would still have enough cash to buy a new car and head off to Mexico to find a chica to marry.
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You're aware that are some states in the U.S. that allow underage marriage as young as 14 years old?
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As for my comment, I've heard stories of engineers retiring at 50, moving to Mexico and marrying underage girls. Since I work with ex-military, the Philippines is a popular retirement spot for marrying underage girls as well. It's all about getting the most bang for your retirement dollars.
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That only works if you retire to Mexico, build a mansion (by local standards), marry an underage sweet thing and bequeath all your possessions to the village.
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You need to be more specific. I wrote 3,000+ comments this year.
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Nah... I just do it to piss off my trolls and make coffee money off of them.
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We have different priorities. You want to climb the corporate ladder. I want to own the corporate ladder.
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Your bitch licks your balls. Most people don't brag about practicing bestiality. Is there a reason why you married a dog and not a goat?
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My employers don't care about what my Slashdot trolls think. Now go off and lick your balls somewhere else.
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iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete. As a Sprint customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always offer me a new iPhone if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.
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Miracle workers are never afraid to ask for a second opinion. Supervisor gave me his opinion ? and a mess to clean up. Lesson learned from this incident: if something isn't quite broken, break it.
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So you can turn around call me a liar again? People have been playing that game with me for years.
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Based on what I've read about Uber, he need to tell the boys to clean up their locker room behavior, zip up their pants, and attend sensitivity training until everyone agrees that women are not sexual objects.
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Which doesn't violate the Slashdot TOS. If you got a problem with that, take it up with management.
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This year I've posted ~4,000 comments.
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Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: Twitter and Facebook DO NOT censor political views -- they only censor hate speech!
Conservative/Republican: What exactly is hate speech?
Liberal/Progressive/Democrat: Almost everything YOU think and say you f'ing Nazi!
Well, in this case "objective" generally means letting people shoot their mouths off without censoring them for it,...
According to Google:
So what if the facts are wrong? Would a social media still be "objective" if it censored posts that were factually incorrect?
Maybe you meant "open minded" or "tolerant" or "accepting?
The important question isn't "How would you treat Hitler?" The important question is "How would you actually know he was Hitler and not just someone you had mistaken him for?" And it's a pretty important question in an era where everyone thinks they know exactly who Hitler is but, when asked to point him out, they all point to different people.
Will the real Hitler please stand up, please stand up, please stand up...
when they realize that there isn't an app for civil war.
But there is: Twitter's flash-mob. (or whatever platform you move it to.) It's not just for dancing anymore.
I've read of instant-theft, where a bunch of people show up at a store and minutes later Grab and Go. The store is set up for casual shoplifters, not when half of your customers are running away.
Now with instant communication running multi-point, just convert that to guerrilla warfare. "Will be meeting Aunt Marie at the local power substation at 2AM tomorrow. Bring presents, tell your friends!" And if enough of the "right" people show up, you've done a BANG up job.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
Why would democrats think they are censored? The extreme liberal views are promoted by both social media and CNN, MSNBC, and etc.
A lot of laws and rulings impact states also. For example, making abortion a felony will impact a blue state also. As will taxing states to have a big military.
Table-ized A.I.
Plenty is getting done at the federal level. Problem is, the left is extremely angry about it. Instead of trying to win votes, they're aggressively attacking anyone who thinks differently from them. See the Bernie-Bro assassination attempt on Scalisle, the attack on Rand Paul, following Sarah Sanders to the next restaurant after asking her to leave, Maxine Waters advocating stalking people, the harassment of the Florida attorney general.... the list goes on. The left, now more than ever, thinks that they're so much better than their opponents that any depraved act is justified to get back on top.
Fact is they're nuts and going insane with rage. While I derive some guilty pleasure from watching youtube videos of far-away left wing cranks going apoplectic; it's not so fun seeing someone I know and like (who has been a generous host to me at several parties) falling apart on facebook. Her world is collapsing because folks she doesn't agree with got elected, and they're starting to play by some of the rules established by the left under Obama.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
Objective in the more broad general sense of "fair," as in "I'm going to give a fair chance to everyone to shoot their stupid pie-holes off, even if they're fucking brain-dead morons who've clearly spend a good percentage of their lives huffing gasoline behind a 7-Eleven." It's the same system we use for voting rights.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I don't trust any of these analytics companies. I used to work for one and making sure we got a certain result was totally an option.
If we got enough numbers on the wrong side we would switch the script. Or just bury it and say we already had enough of that demographic but still call that area...
One of the reasons I quit facebook a few years ago was that I was getting too much political propaganda in my feeds through friends sharing every crack-pot theory. It was definitely not biased towards a liberal view point.
The fringes on both ends of the spectrum are virtually the same, basically militant in their approach. I'm more concerned with the mainstream conservatives willing to sell out their values simply to support the candidate with the R next to his name. Anyone thinking Trump is religious is a fool.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
Trump isn't doing any of things the claim, and the main problem these days with politics is it's just mud flinging. Your post is a classic example. The opponent is hitting some group and is basically compared to Hitler, which is absolutely ridiculous.
You could turn it around on them. Start broadcasting genuinely factual tidbits with meme-worthy inspirational backgrounds.
[Insert hazy sunrise]
"The vast majority of stock investors are equally likely to lose money on an investment as they are to make money. On the other hand, investing in 'index funds' is like investing in the general growth of a market sector and is significantly more predictable in its success."
[Insert cat hanging from branch]
"Gravity is technically still a 'theory' because while we can predict gravity's effect on objects, we can't explain exactly why it happens. It could be the exchange of a tiny particle (a "graviton"), it could be because of the way things "vibrate". We just don't know for sure yet."
[Insert beautiful feast]
"All the best studies have shown that fad diets don't do much for the long-term fitness of the vast majority of people who try them. While they may see significant body changes in the short run, they typically require too much change from one's comfort level to keep one's progress for more than 6 months. What's the best way to drop pounds and feel better? Reduce your sweets intake, cook your own food, and move around more."
"Will be meeting Aunt Marie at the local power substation at 2AM tomorrow. Bring presents, tell your friends!" And if enough of the "right" people show up, you've done a BANG up job.
That's pretty easy to counter. All the other side has to do is point out that there's been a rare Pokemon spotted on the other side of town and no one will show up.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Minds.com is the cure.
In all fairness, the batshit coming from the left these days is just the bastard child of the right's batshit birthers screaming that Barak Obama was a secret Muslim born in an al-quaida training camp. But I have to hand it to the Antifa crowd; they've really taken the batshit insanity to new heights of late. If we can get through the next Presidential debate without someone in the crowd running up on stage, dropping trow, and taking a giant shit in front someone's podium then I'll consider it an heartening victory for political civility.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Oh, please, don't feed is this line of bullshit when POTUS pretty much devolves into being a school yard bully and calling people names. He's the worst for aggressively attacking, to the point it's hard to not think he's got some serious personality disorders.
The rabid right and the rabid left are all fucking morons who are attacking opponents and not countering with facts.
Starting from POTUS on down with his childish bullshit and need to lash out at anybody who disagrees with him.
Don't give me this fucking bullshit that it's the left ... being neither left nor night, you're all fucking batshit crazy idiots. The right has it's own problems with foaming at the mouth rage and an utter lack of facts in anything they say. There's too much goddamned irrational gibberish from both sides.
Both extremes have ridiculous ideologies and go apeshit against people who disagree with them. Call us back when we go a week where the Republicunts don't go on the attack. Hell, find me a two day period in which Trump the Shitpile never went on a personal attack -- bet you can't.
And, really, kicking out Sanders .. well, you pretty much have to because she's feckless cunt and a mouthpiece for a lying sack of shit. Sorry, but if your job is to be the one to deliver the endless stream of lies from POTUS, you should expect to receive some of the wrath people have.
But what happened? Trump went on his childish little tantrum about the restaurant, and the drooling idiots who support him started giving death threats to every restaurant with the same name.
Don't even presume to blame this on the left, when I routinely watch the right do the exact same fucking thing (if not worse). Because if you think this is purely the left, you're a delusional fucking moron and part of the goddamned fucking problem.
But don't take some fucking moral high ground you're not entitled to. The rest of us see both sides on the extreme and just think you all need to shut the fuck up.
Your posts/tweets aren't missing from feeds, or placed lower on them, because of your political views, it's because the algorithms Facebook and Twitter use to generate the feeds don't think you -- and by extension, anything you have to say -- are important. Simple.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Inciting Violence. I'm going to be completely blunt. The reason the right wing (I refuse to call people in favor of radical change "Conservative") get more bans is there's a lot of them hinting at violence. There's a good example right here. Jones backpedaled as best he could but the meaning was clear. It's so common there's a name for it: Dog Whistling
You're entitled to your opinion right up until it becomes incitement to violence. The radical right has a lot of unhinged people than even the extreme left. There have been no cases of left wing terrorism since the 70s. Abortion doctors OTOH can point to multiple instances of terrorism and ask the black and LGBTQ communities about how they're treated down south some time. The right words said to the right person equals violence. The right have a well documented history of spreading those words and using them to oppress. Hate speech turns into actions all too often. You don't get to shout fire in a theater and you don't get to exclaim out loud how if only someone would rid you of this meddlesome priest.
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No birthers heckled people out of restaurants or shot democratic congressmen on a baseball field. No birthers help up a fake head of the president. No birther said that Obama's kids should be put in a room with pedophiles.
The afflicted have more important concerns than politics. It's the comfortable who presume to speak for them by holding up a placard at a march and smugly patting themselves on the back for their wokeness.
Trump isn't doing any of things the claim, and the main problem these days with politics is it's just mud flinging.
As just one example, separating immigrant children from their parents is totally unnecessary, cruel and sadistic. Yes, it occasionally happened under Obama but Trump dialed it up to 11.
The problem with conservatives, particularly Christiant conservatives, is that they fundamentally selfish cruel sadistic horrible people. But they expect to go around in their little bubbles having everyone like them and imagining that they are good people - when they're obviously not.
If you really want to hurt Trump, the best strategy would be to ignore him. People with big egos hate that. With each scream against him, you're only making his hairplugs stronger.
You're choosing to play ball on his field, and he's Babe Ruth. But even the Babe can't knock it out of the park if you don't pitch to him. Try buying him hookers instead. The Babe loved those.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Womp womp!
What's interesting to me is that anyone who is publicly associated with Trump would even consider eating in a sit-down restaurant (as opposed to having a friend or minion pick up some take-out anonymously). I mean, I'm just a random nobody and I figure I probably get a fair bit of spit, snot, etc. in my food. But, wow, after the vicious, cruel, sadistic policies that Trump has directed toward foreigners and immigrants, it's hard to imagine that the public faces of the Trump regime wouldn't realize that they're hated by exactly the kind of people who work in restaurant kitchens. What kind of bubble must Sarah Sanders be living in that she would wander into some random restaurant and not expect to, at a minimum, eat a plateful of spit - or maybe she likes eating spit?
So, Trump follows the Reno V. Flores agreement (as he should), and does what the law and policy states. Obama flouted laws and policies however he decided, based upon the current winds of politics. And somehow Trump is Hitler and the dictator? Snowflake AC has its head on fucking backwards...
Have you read the law? Crossing the border illegally is a crime. We don't keep children with indicted criminals. That to is a law. The law doesn't allow us to jail children with their parents. Your position apparently is to let illegal invaders go because they are using their children as human shields. Most certainly, they should lose custody food forcing their children to commit a crime.
You are the soulless bastard encouraging criminals to use their children as human shields.
You strike on an interesting point - the Federal Government bickering and fighting everywhere. Let's work to shrink the Federal Government back down to what it was supposed to be, and not only will it have a lot less to bicker about, it will have much less influence on people as it loses the ability to pick winners and losers in all aspects of life. The Constitution explicitly stated what the Federal Government could do, and explicitly stated ANYTHING else was for the States or the People - NOT the Federal Government. Somehow the folks elected to DC managed to convince enough people that it is OK for them to go beyond their Constitutional limits because "it's someone else's fault and you should be paid for whatever you like"...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Yes, too bad Trump doesn't just talk down to those deplorable, bitter guns-and-god clingers getting all wee-wee'd up!
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It's unclear to me how it's not 100%. The original question is if social media sites censor political viewpoints [social media sites] find objectionable. That may be stuff I agree with or find objectionable, but so long as they're censoring anything, it's almost certainly due in part to a political viewpoint.
This quickly shifts to if this is a bias: ie is it a systemic political viewpoint that's being suppressed? The answer to that is again, yes. Neo-nazism (which oddly enough I find "objectionable" (more like abhorrent)) is definitely censored and quite systemically. So is antisemitism.
It breaks down as less systemic when it comes to "left"/"right" issues because there's too much content for Twitter/Facebook employees to begin to censor one side systemically without hiring China-level of censors. It's simply not worth it to them even if they had a bias. The actual censors themselves have their own opinions anyways, which is why censorship is inherently capricious. Algorithms that are supposed to be the salvation don't solve this because they'll just capricious in different, less obvious ways.
Regardless, this whole discuss seems very clickbait. "Republicans" and "Democrats" don't have consistent enough views on most things to state much about bias and censorship. If you believe otherwise, take the most "liberal" Republican in Texas and the most "conservative" Republican in California and have them debate issues. The same for Democrats. Talk specific issues and you'll find plenty of Democrats are pro-life or pro=business and plenty of Republicans are pro-choice and pro-regulation.
It's not controversial, though, to censor stuff "everyone" disagrees with. Thinking critically, though, that's precisely the stuff people should actual care about being censored. Most the rest in bullshit pushed by the major parties to drive up support for their side because it's so "critical". You can't get people to vote for you because you support what everyone agrees with, right?
after the vicious, cruel, sadistic policies that Trump has directed toward foreigners and immigrants
Vicious, cruel, sadistic is when they shoot you at the border, not when they take you to an air-conditioned detention center, let you take a warm shower, and give you a clean jumpsuit to wear. Though the food is, admittedly, not great.
And I'm pretty sure most of the immigrants in your narrative might point out that they faced much worse conditions *before* they got caught than afterwards, especially given coyotes' nasty predilection for raping their paying customers and putting them in shipping containers to die. They might point that out if you bothered to ask them anyway, which you wouldn't of course. Because they're really just faceless extras to use in your own political movie featuring Donald Trump in the starring role as Adolph Hitler, aren't they?
Trump did something entirely of his own design, blamed Obama, fucked it up so bad that he had to reverse course, and you're still trying to say Obama did wrong, because? Oh yeah, you want Obama to be at fault, that's it.
Oh wait, wait, don't forget he's still having problems getting families back together.
Plus you know, all the corruption involved.
The Nazi comparisons made by Democrats, equating every minor thing they disagree with to the near extermination of my family, have turned me away from them and their politics for the rest of my life.
Now, no discussion of dishonoring the Senate should omit mention of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. With his eyes on a 2016 White House run, Cruz on September 24, 2013 tried to filibuster a must-pass spending bill in hopes of defunding Obamacare. His long-odds fight against the Affordable Care Actâ(TM)s extension of health insurance coverage to 25 million people, Cruz insisted, had other historical precedents. Among them, of course, was the bloody campaign that had to be waged against Hitlerâ(TM)s fascism:
âoeIf we go to the 1940s, Nazi Germanyâ"look, we saw it in Britain. Neville Chamberlain told the British people: Accept the Nazis. Yes, they will dominate the continent of Europe, but that is not our problem. Let's appease them. Why? Because it can't be done. We cannot possibly stand against them.â
By the time Cruz forced a government shutdown with his Quixotic crusade against Obamacare, his Republican colleagues had been comparing the ACA to National Socialism for years. State insurance exchanges helping millions of people in the United States obtain coverage, Idaho state Sen. Sheryl Nuxoll darkly warned in January 2013, are the equivalent of a final solution for health care:
"The insurance companies are creating their own tombs. Much like the Jews boarding the trains to concentration camps, private insurers are used by the feds to put the system in place because the federal government has no way to set up the exchange."
In Maryland, the Republican Women of Anne Arundel County explained in 2009 that "Obama and Hitler have a great deal in common." Five years later, conservative rocker and future Trump White House guest Ted Nugent told right-wing radio host Dennis Miller that he agreed with that assessment. While he apologized for calling President Obama a âoesubhuman mongrel,â Nugent insisted:
âoeThere was an incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly. And I think thatâ(TM)s what Obamacare is, thatâ(TM)s what I think most of what he represents. The IRS â" I really believe that what we see with the IRS can be compared accurately and historically to the early maneuvers of people like jackbooted thugs, like the Brownshirts. I really believe that and I think that you are being too soft on them.â [Emphasis mine.]
As it turns out, Nugentâ(TM)s grotesque rhetoric was little different than that of a sitting Republican governor. In 2012, Maine Republican Gov. Paul LePage reacted to the Supreme Court's ruling upholding Obamacare:
"We the people have been told there is no choice. You must buy health insurance or pay the new Gestapoâ"the IRS."
LePage was not the first Republican to compare the Internal Revenue Service to Hitler's henchmen. During the GOP's successful crusade to gut the agency in the late 1990s, Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott decried the IRS's "Gestapo-like tactics" while Alaska's Frank Murkowski protested, "You don't need to send in armed personnel in flak jackets."
Michele Bachmann and Mike Huckabee couldn't agree more. Despite the fact that the total federal tax burden as a percentage of the U.S. economy hit its lowest level since 1950, presidential candidate Bachmann had a different story to tell New Hampshire Republicans in May 2011:
Bachmann recounted learning about a horrific time in history as a child -- the Holocaust -- and wondering if her mother did anything to stop it. She said she was shocked to hear that many Americans weren't aware that millions of Jews had died until after World War II ended.
Bachmann said the next generation will ask similar questions about what their elders did to prevent them from facing a huge tax burden.
"I tell you this story because I think in our day and time, there
Trump is a pathological liar and those who act directly on his behalf deserve what they get.
New Zealanders are well balanced with a chip on each shoulder. One represents Australia, the other the rest of the world
Plenty is getting done at the federal level. Problem is, the left is extremely angry about it. Instead of trying to win votes, they're aggressively attacking anyone who thinks differently from them.
You mean like how the GOP does? Ask Congressman Chuck Fleischman for the audio of his last 6 months of calls where his constituents phone in to demand that Congressional representatives from different districts be punished for not voting their preferred way.
See the Bernie-Bro assassination attempt on Scalisle,
You mean documented mentally ill guy who probably didn't know Steve Scalise from a hill of beans? Gosh, you want to try real assasinations, ask the families of doctors murdered for performing abortions.
the attack on Rand Paul,
You mean the neighbor fed up with another neighbor? Gosh, that's news.
following Sarah Sanders to the next restaurant after asking her to leave,
You mean the Sarah Sanders who attacked a restaurant for exercising their rights as a business owner(even though it didn't involved a gay wedding cake), using her office, whose boss did the same, and whose followers are still trashing unrelated businesses on Yelp?
Maxine Waters advocating stalking people,
Maxine Waters who has been threatened by the right for decades?
the harassment of the Florida attorney general....
The attorney General who sought criminal prosecution against people protesting her actions in a public site?
the list goes on
You have a lot of made-up ones, others exaggerated, while the beam in your own eye is ignored.
Ask Milo why he called for violent assault on the press.
Abortion isn't a federal crime nor is Congress even thinking about making it so. Maintaining a military is one of the few things that the federal government is constitutionally mandated to do.
Actually, the Constitution explicitly stated that the federal government had the powers necessary to do what it needed and that it was the Supreme Law of the Land.
Sorry, but the fact is, not only is the 10th Amendment not worth anything, even the advocates of so-called states rights turn up their noses at it when they get their chance to suppress those they don't like.
Including yourself. You have an especially strong streak of it at that.
Part of the problem is politics has gone beyond policy, but to identity.
If you are the tough guy then you should be a republican.
If you are an intellectual then you are a democrat.
If your religious then you are a republican.
If your an atheist then you are a democrat.
It isn’t about policy anymore it is personal. It is about the other side trying to stop your way of life and your values.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Frankly they deserve to be hung as traitors.
Which Mexican Pres candidate do the drug lords and killers support? Heres a hint: he hasnt been assassinated yet. Lol
Have you read the law? Crossing the border illegally is a crime. We don't keep children with indicted criminals. That to is a law. The law doesn't allow us to jail children with their parents.
Making the rounds on FaceBook:
I think it is more the case the algorithm is working normally not censoring. It is just no one really cares on your political belief. So the algorithm rates content no one cares about accordingly.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
In all fairness, the batshit coming from the left these days is just the bastard child of the right's batshit birthers screaming that Barak Obama was a secret Muslim born in an al-quaida training camp.
When the right was "going batshit," Breitbart and Fox News had profitable quarters. While the left is "going batshit," people are being murdered, stalked, harassed and leftist public figures pushing the line on calls for more violence and harassment.
Dont be a what ever. This current beat up, this idiotic frothy circle jerk, is a manufactured event. Created by the corrupt cunts who currently control the far right corporate controlled Democrat Party. Created in backrooms smoking cigars that have been stuck in each other genitals, to keep fiscal policy off the table, so people can rant about what bodily part they are sticking in what ever orifice, scream and scream about it. C'mon seriously, look who corporate main stream media ignores. Like a camera on an empty podium whilst another politician that did sort of represent the people was ignored and corporate main stream media colluded with a corrupt political party system to cheat democracy and the entire existing government ignored that corruption like it didn't exist and the following government joined right in on the corruption and yet they could have locked up a huge number of the opposition, oh yeah, hah hah, Americans are idiots and the is no political opposition party, just cunts fighting for exactly the same piece of corrupt action. Yet main stream media in it's entirety can now focus enormous amounts of attention on every single fuckarse crazy sexual freak out there.
This current shite is nothing but a political show to silence workers and prevent a workers party forming in the US, same old, same old and the deep state and shadow government are right in there. Corporate PR psychopaths designed it to, lets be blunt, keep all you idiot morons down. It is a lie, an illusion, fed into empty minds by an entirely corrupt US corporate main stream media, it is a lie. No civil war, none of that shit, just the psychopath corporate douche bags desperately trying to keep workers from taking over because when they do the criminal trials will start and the cunts currently controlling the system will be kicking in the wind, not that many of them either, those psychos are so in the minority and those forces used to try to control us, will be used to destroy them (they also ain't the fucking slaves of corporate psychopaths when the psychopaths corporate started trying to treat them, like they do in made up movies, wow did they make a mistake, so tiny civil war between the entirety of the rank and file versus the corrupt political appointees and their handful of quislings).
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Your farts start to smell a certain way when you continually get pumped with the same information/paranoia.
And not hang the people who say someone else should be hung as traitors at the same time?
Yes, yes, God Emperor Trump always speaks truth.
Done!
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Beware of the Leopard.
Birthers actually did heckle people, they did put up effigies of Obama, and they engaged on tons of fraudulent legal action to get their way.
And violence? Yeah, there was rightwing violence, a big report on it was written by the FBI.
I have watched FB "Trending News" very closely until they removed it. "Magically" the news shown was almost always pro-democrat or anti-republican. Never pro-republican or anti-democrat.
Conservatives on twitter get banned / kicked off very very easily while liberals say things much much worse and seem to rarely be punished much less banned.
If you want to see the dark underbelly of the internet pretend to be a conservative for 1 month.
They haven't seen my fb feed. Every other comment is some fucking political statement. I was just bitching about it to a friend today.
Sorry to be posting as AC. Can't remember my password.
--WerewolfOfVulcan
...if your political views involve things like blatant racism and overt calls for genocide. In most countries that sort of stuff is legally considered hate speech, but it seems to be a moderate-right position in the US these days.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Straw man.
The examples were provided as a refutation of the 'it is legal' defence.
It states only that "legality is not a guide to morality" and does not make the stronger claim you rebut that 'legality is immoral'. ..".
Not content with your straw man, you go on to parody those you claim to have made it with your "hurt durr,
Please don't. There is always provocation for poor behaviour. It is never an excuse.
and really the truth - not one sided political noise - you've got to examine multiple news sources. If all you listen to is MSNBC or FOX then you're only going to get opposite ends of the spectrum. The exact same news story will be reported through a political lens, skewed this way or that to advance a given agenda.
Me? I listen to NPR and I watch FOX and I browse various news sites on the interweb. Somewhere in all that lies the truth. When I hear news I am skeptical. I ask myself what agenda are they trying to sell. And EVERYONE has an agenda. Everyone.
So the trick is to recognize where the news reporting ends and the editorial begins. In the old days, Walter Cronkite would announce "and now for tonight's editorial..." so you knew that what you were about to hear was opinion. Today it is all interspersed so it can be difficult to tell where the reporting ends and the opinion begins.
don't be so fucking stupid.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Social media reinforces homogeneity. Part of it is the echo chamber effect, partly because it is so easy to find people based on your opinions and interests.
When you are 'forced' to interact with neighbours, colleagues etc. even with location and social strata providing some conformity, there's still a greater need to accomodate differences of opinion and even belief. At the same time, being accepted and knowing that you 'belong' even if you don't have exactly the same beliefs and opinions means that there's less pressure to conform.
Finding and knowing your role in a community is a powerful drive. Communication technology has taken our drive to belong and exaggerated it into something unhealthy.
Compromise is no longer as necessary. People are unpractised at it and it takes work to overcome our 'us and them' drive. Easier to simply find a place of like minded people and not deal with 'other'. Lather, rinse, repeat.
None of the people you've quoted are calling their opponents Nazis. At best they're drawing strained, emotional analogies. The same cannot be said for the opposition. The left is chock full of people who are more than happy to label Trump - and, often, all conservatives - as racist sexist white supremacist Nazis who do everything they do just to opress anyone who isn't white and male.
If you don't see the difference between those positions you're clearly not a very bright individual.
Trump only demanded that the existing laws on the treatment of illegal immigrants be enforced. And he inherited these laws from his predecessors. The illegal immigrants bring minor children with them because they work better than a passport. If you want to invade the US all you need to do is bring a child with you. Although over 1/3rd of the minor children being detained crossed the border by themselves. Obama was partial to making executive orders and that is not always a bad thing. Relying on executive orders for the country's immigration policy is not a good solution. The Legislative Branch is the guilty party in the immigration policy debate. The Democrats are crying about the detained children but have not offered a solution to the problem. They are content to use the detained children to attack the President. The Democrats and Republicans that make up the Legislative branch is ultimately responsible for almost every problem the country faces. Immigration, trade, military deployments, and the economy. And the braying public doesn't even understand that the Executive Branch does not have the power to effect the major issues of the day. The President is just the front man. A President cannot dictate laws or even influence the national budget. While every one is focused on the President related investigation the actual culprits are safely out of the spotlight. And the Democrats, Socialists, Communist, Republicans, and Independents are all guilty of forgetting that every action creates a reaction. The Democrat calling for people to harass anyone working for Trump better be ready for a Republican to push back. And for god's sake there is another Presidential election in 2 years and Trump will be gone. Relentlessly hounding everything he says or does just means the next Democrat to become President will face the same type of tactics.
And the post asking if you would you serve Hitler if he came into your business establishment is a trick question. Hitler would have just killed or imprisoned anyone trying to dictate any of his actions.
So what if the facts are wrong?
Then they're not facts, and you refute them with actual facts. Duh.
The pertinent question isn't really "what if they're wrong"; it's "what if they're right". If you have a policy of censoring anyone you believe to be wrong, you aren't even leaving yourself open to the possibility that YOU might be wrong. This is how dictatorships operate. They don't argue with you, they don't consider your position, they just shut you up and lock you away the moment you say anything they don't like.
I would far rather have a marketplace of ideas in which any crank can say whatever stupid thing pops into their mind than a marketplace of ideas where only popular things can be said. The former might be annoying and anarchic, but the latter is far, far more dangerous. All progress ceases when intelligent disagreements aren't even allowed to take place.
Will show what side of US politics social media was all over to support.
What side of US politics got talked about as having the support of social media brands.
What accounts got banned for their political views.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Ask Milo why he called for violent assault on the press.
He didn't. He made an offhand barb in private correspondence with reporters who emailed him asking for comment. They then reported his words in "the news". If any violence erupted from that it would be their fault, not his. You might rightly view his words as insulting, rude, or otherwise indicative of a douchebag, but only a moron would see them as "calling for violence".
Had he made the same comment on twitter, or another public forum, or even just egged on his followers in private, that would be a different story. But he didn't.
Straw man.
The examples were provided as a refutation of the 'it is legal' defence.
Horseshit. "The examples" were themselves a strawman since nobody ever argued that legal and moral are the same thing. The previous guy merely pointed out that the government is enforcing the law the way they're supposed to, rather than ignoring it the way a certain previous administration did.
You think the law is immoral? Great, start a campaign to change it. Meanwhile the government has a duty to enforce it as it's written.
It's neither dishonesty nor hyperbole when 45's "fine people" are literally marching in the streets with the swastika. Sorry, not sorry... if it talks like a nazi, goose-steps like a nazi, and sieg heil's like a nazi; it's a goddamned nazi.
Imagine all the people...
I'd always heard this attributed to Winston Churchill.
As for Hitler--I thought everybody knew that he retired to a bed & breakfast in England.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
I would settle for a moment of peace
So why do you keep going to Facebook? The peace lasts as long as you don't log in.
Facebook and Twitter do censor political views.
If it's possible for illegals to obtain what passes for welfare benefits in the US, then perhaps the US benefits system needs to be fixed. In other countries I've lived in, you're required to show proof that you're a citizen or legal resident before the social assistance people will even talk to you for help with anything other than maybe a one-way ticket home (and you'll be expected to pay them back for it).
You conveniently ignore the fact that many of those folks from Central/South America are trying to escape pretty desperate circumstances--dictatorships, guerrilla warfare, gang violence. In addition, you fail to acknowledge that those conditions can very often be traced back to US policies that encouraged and in some cases *installed* right-wing dictatorships in those countries and the US War On Drugs. Not to mention the fact that local economies were often ruined by US-based multinational corporations backed by US power. Some search terms to get you started: Allende, Somoza, United Fruit Co.
No disrespect intended to your relatives who went into Auschwitz and never came out again, but I think you're sounding a whole lot like "I know nothing of the relevant history but I'll spout off anyway", as well as a little like "I've got mine".
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
I don't understand why it is that anyone trusts these companies at all when it comes to anything.
There is only one thing you need to know --- Humans are basically stupid.
They may think that they are smart - like the drunkards who refuse to admit they are drunk, humans who think they are smart are of the dumbest of all.
Slashdot has a very permissive TOS. Don't like it? Complain to the management, bitching about it in the comments changes nothing.
This was a factual comment.
I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming majority of Slashdotters are not at all interested in your reindeer games and would quite happily watch the whole bloody lot of yas take a very long stroll down a very short pier.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Every politician ever has lied. If you're going to hang people for supporting liars, you're going to depopulate the US.
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It's very simple: My family was desperately trying to escape Germany when they were killed; not desperately trying to sneak in for welfare benefits.
Is there a difference?
We currently live in a world where 20,000 children a day die of poverty - while the Nazi deaths camps are distant memory. But let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the Nazi's were still around doing their thing. And that there were two little boys who each wanted to come to America so they didn't die - the "German boy" wanting to avoid dying in a Nazi death camp and the "Honduran boy" wanting to avoid dying of poverty. Which boy would deserve to come to America? Or both boys? Or neither?
In a certain sense, neither boy deserves to die, per se. But then Americans aren't directly responsible for the Nazi death camps or the desperate poverty in Honduras. So Americans aren't really responsible for saving the lives of these boys: if American did save these boys, it would be more an act of generosity and compassion than an obligation.
And, of course, once in America, either of these boys might fall on hard times and requires welfare that would cost American tax dollars. Or, worse, either of these boys might turn to a life of crime. In a certain sense, the only way to be 100% safe from having a Jew commit a crime against an American is not allow any Jews to live in America - just as the only way to be safe from crimes committed by Honduran refugees is to not allow any Honduran refugees to live in America.
Ultimately if we are to decide between the German boy and the Honduran boy, we may need to look to the circumstances of their birth - specifically, their parents. If the parents of the German boy didn't want him to die in a death camp then perhaps they should have chosen not to be Jewish. And if the parents of the Honduran boy didn't want him to be poor then perhaps they should have chosen not to be trapped in desperate poverty.
Basically, we Americans have the opportunity to sit in judgment - to kill (well, allow to die) people's children based on whether they behave the way we want. If someone is lazy or, even worse, Jewish then we close our borders and punish them with benevolent and sanctimonious knowledge of our inherent superiority as Americans.
...most Americans think that they need more guns and less healthcare.
Heil Hitlary!
Vote Hitlary in 2020 for WORLD WAR 3!
Heil Hitlary!
"YOU have to show WHY it's immoral"
Really? You need to be told why enacting a policy of child abuse as a bargaining tool to extract money from congress is immoral?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Obviously the poster meant all cows who use Slashdot app.
As volatile as politics are now, I wouldn't trust anyone to be "objective" anymore.
I mean this in the most respectful possible way, but doesn't that make you part of the problem? Polarisation feeds distrust, and distrust feeds polarisation.
For example, at some point we need to agree that there is such a thing as objective reality, and that most big news outlets report it accurately enough most of the time.
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Wow, and you just scored the bingo in a single post.
The only people that anybody is calling Nazis, are the people chanting Nazi slogans, waving Nazi flags, and saluting Nazi propaganda. There is a pretty big line between those guys and the rest, it just doesn't help when the POTUS calls them "fine people" after ruthlessly murdering someone and celebrating it.
If they had enough power in 2 or 3 branches, the evangelical-controlled GOP would make it so.
It's not mandated to be bloated. If my job is to mow the grass that doesn't mean I should shave it bald.
Table-ized A.I.
No, it's not ridiculous. We already know from court transcripts that Trump used to keep one of Hitler's books by his bed. And it is plain to anyone observing that his tactics from decrying the Luggenpresse to calling all Jewish immigrants rapists and MS-13 members are taken straight from Hitler's playbook.
Yep.. just google it!
If a publishing company or its employees have any ethics, they cannot publish just anything. I would certainly "censor" a lot if I ran a blogging platform, and I think it's a good thing. This is only related to free speech (= protection from state censorship) if the filtering is done on orders of the state or to prevent reprimands from the state.
The sad thing is that Twitter doesn't censor political views. There are plenty of extremists on Twitter. It's only harassment that gets people banned and tweets deleted.
Of course they make mistakes. But mistakes are not evidence of a conspiracy to oppress certain political views.
Unfortunately some people who make a living from being outraged and fake oppressed have pushed this lie hard for years now, and it's starting to intrude on people's perception of reality. Being banned for political views has become a new form of martyrdom for some extremist movements, but because Twitter doesn't ban people for political views they have to keep violating the rules and then spin it as politically motivated.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I keep hearing a lot about how terrible Antifa is, but have they actually murdered anyone? Do they drive cars into crowds? Do any of them honestly think that there is a war on and that killing the other side is justified?
Because that's the level of batshit we have from the far right. It's another level entirely, and order of magnitude away from the worst I've ever seen Antifa do.
When people are trying so hard to equate clearly very different things like this, you have to ask what they are trying to hide. And in this case it's not even a difficult question to answer, because the violence and murders and Nazism are overt and well publicised. It's not distraction, it's gaslighting.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
As i laughed along at that I could imagine the howls of outrage from Twitter if anyone dared to produce something like that now.
Most americans should not have any political opinion at all.
It was only twenty years ago the insane people on the right were killing abortion doctors with guns and bombs, blowing up buildings, and bombing the Olympics. And that was before the gays could even marry. The crazy shoe may be on the left foot right now, but I think you're poking at something in human nature. Of course, I don't blame left or right ideology for these things. I blame crazy people for doing crazy things.
O RLY?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
To be fair, if all you ever do talk about how great it is to be white and how much you enjoy toddlers being in cages -- there's a good chance you have major psychological issues and probably are being censored.
I am a Democratic Socialist. Everything I like and follow is of a progressive bent yet my news feed was constantly filled with right-wing viewpoints.
And frankly the whole Silicon Valley conspires against the right thing just doesn't pass the smell test. Take this pair Diamond and Silk. They are two that started as nobodies and in just a few years have built so much of a following using those evil communist social media platforms that they were called to testify before congress, getting personally recognized by Trump and frequently hobnobbing with the elite of the republican party.
Or how many times do I see someone saying "OMG HOW COME MSM ISN'T REPORTING THIS?!?!" on top of something of interest to right wingers when there are 14 zillion shares of the same thing including articles by the supposedly evil MSM. One of the "best" recent ones was a share from Fox News saying that and the facts were that the evil-MSM had reported on the incident days earlier.
The "big lie" of the right wing today, and evangelicals in particular, is that they are oppressed. They back this with the narrative lie of America as a crumbling society even though unemployment, violence and illegal immigration are at record lows. So pushing this idea that MSM and new media are against them is critical to those narratives.
This is ridiculous. That crowd would have ripped an abortion supporter to shreds, but defends the Nazis. They made their stand, now they have to live with it.
Maybe the question is "why do we keep calling people with different political views Hitler/Nazis?"
I mean, enforcing borders laws + procedures that have been around for years (even pre-Obama) suddenly means the fourth reich.
The answer of course, is that the people saying this are being manipulated by the Democrats, with other people being manipulated by the Republicans.
We shouldn't allow little-Stalinists to censor freedom of speech. EVER.
You read that somewhere, did you?
Care to quote sources? Because Iâ(TM)m calling bullhit...
When you find yourself aligned with people shouting "Blood and soil" and "Jews will not replace us", dont be surprised if people start calling you a Nazi. Especially if you go out of your way to not call them out.
Strange, you weren't complaining when you claimed the Slashdot community moderated your insightful contributions.
Now that we see that the community either ignores you, hates you, or thinks you're an annoying content-free pest, it's censorship?
People who want a good laugh at work can see your toilet-bowl-staining soft brown posts if they choose, how is this censorship?
My family was in Berlin when Hitler rose to power.
There was a long road between Germany for Germans!, Germany first! and death camps, but the road Trump is on is a perfect fucking trajectory.
Taking control over the supreme court is the latest... if the elections don't cripple him, he won't be "President", but he will be "Leader".
"Never again" is happening again. We're just in the early days of Hitler, before the military industrial complex exploded and gave crazy jobs to everyone. Parallels aren't perfect, he couldn't completely dismantle the media, which means he can't outright copy the Hitler playbook, i.e., assembling a secret police to murder his political opponents is not going to work.
Not to mention how it's disingenuous at best to cry about "crazy antifa" when teabagger nutjobbery scored the entire federal government for the Republicans. Whining about how liberals need to stay civil and sane is tantamount to demanding they fight with both hands tied behind their back in the current political climate, even before we start addressing how calling for a minimum wage that you can actually live on gets the crazy label.
According to Faux News and the orange-haired thief, any media other than them is "biased, fake news". You have been living in an echo chamber that gets fed little bits of specially curated input from Russian trolls, corporate interests, and "religious" extremists.
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Obama was partial to making executive orders and that is not always a bad thing. Relying on executive orders for the country's immigration policy is not a good solution
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If Obama was indeed partial to making executive orders what would that make all the other presidents prior to him in the last hundred years? Wikipedia shows that they either did more executive orders or did more per year spent in office than Obama. Of the more recent presidents, only H.W Bush had less executive orders, but he only spent 1 term in office.
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I know how tech works, and I know that algorithmically it is possible to design a map gadget that does not tell google where I live. Hell, even google maps works offline.
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That comment was about the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" participants. Here is the transcript:
REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group â" excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
Trump is saying that some of the Unite the Right protesters were "very fine people" despite their decision to associate and march with people openly displaying swastikas and chanting "blood and soil" while holding their burning torches and wearing 1488 t-shirts.
In any case, the bigger issue was his failure to swiftly and completely condemn the nationalists. If you can't even say "Nazis are bad" or "I dislike people who want to create an ethnostate in the US" then there is a problem. To be fair to Trump, he probably doesn't like those people and doesn't agree with them, but because parts of his base are associated with them or share some of their views he won't directly condemn them.
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I'm a Jew who had 7 family members killed in Auschwitz.
The Nazi comparisons made by Democrats, equating every minor thing they disagree with to the near extermination of my family, have turned me away from them and their politics for the rest of my life.
I voted for Hillary, but that's the last time. Literally nothing Trump has done equates with Nazism or 1930s Germany. In fact, he has surprisingly been a more staunch defender of Jews than any president in my lifetime... Where Obama all but betrayed us in his last year.
It's very simple: My family was desperately trying to escape Germany when they were killed; not desperately trying to sneak in for welfare benefits.
Right. A staunch defender of Jews who made no mention of us at all in his speech about the Holocaust.
Then they're not facts, and you refute them with actual facts. Duh.
That's not the problem. Politicians love to cherry pick facts that support their ideology. That's what Kellyanne Conway meant by "alternative facts", things that are true but carefully selected to mislead the listener.
As a result people have stopped believing arguments even when they have facts to back them up. They think that it's legitimate to just google some alternative facts that support their views and that makes them right.
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He did. When asked about it he said it was his "standard response", and other journalists have confirmed that he has sent the same message to them.
He's adopted Trump's attacks on the media and, as he is famous for, taken them to an extreme that gets him attention. He then hand waves them away as not serious, trying to absolve himself of any responsibility for the words he uses.
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On the one hand, there are real dangers and threats to be angry about. For example, now there is an opportunity to appoint a new supreme court judge there is a risk to women's bodily autonomy and to gay people's rights.
On the other hand, progressive and left leaning candidates have been unseating hard right incumbents all over the place. The anger and protest is proving effective it seems.
This round of elections will be extremely interesting to see.
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So, Trump follows the Reno V. Flores agreement (as he should), and does what the law and policy states. Obama flouted laws and policies however he decided, based upon the current winds of politics. And somehow Trump is Hitler and the dictator? Snowflake AC has its head on fucking backwards...
If Trump was bound to follow the law, how could he change the policy with an executive order?
I named my toilet: Allah - and I keep him well fed - by reading this, you will think of this idea every single time you use a toilet
He's a professional provocateur who uses Twitter as a weapon. Why anyone pays attention is beyond me.
Oh right, he's President. Ba dum, tsh!
I keep hearing a lot about how terrible Antifa is, but have they actually murdered anyone? Do they drive cars into crowds?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18...
Anita purposely uses anonymity to mask its violence so that it's hard to trace back to them.
You know, kinda like those -chan trolls you love to mock? Antifa is using the same tactics. Strange you claim that they're on a different level.
While that article doesn't specifically say they've killed anyone, antifa has been linked to injuring police (what did you expect when you're starting riots) and destroying property. You should read the article. It even includes interviews with one of them being rather proud they're breaking the law and breaking people's stuff.
Do any of them honestly think that there is a war on and that killing the other side is justified?
Read the cnn article. Yes, yes they honestly do think that. One of them in the article claim it's self defense, which implies the Nazis (dun dun DUN) were attacking them and they're fighting back.
Because that's the level of batshit we have from the far right. It's another level entirely, and order of magnitude away from the worst I've ever seen Antifa do.
They're both bad. Even if we grant one is the lesser evil, it's still evil.
When people are trying so hard to equate clearly very different things like this, you have to ask what they are trying to hide.
"what have you got to hide" is just a cheap attempt at character assassination. It's McCarthyism all over again (note the irony here)
And in this case it's not even a difficult question to answer, because the violence and murders and Nazism are overt and well publicised. It's not distraction, it's gaslighting.
Nah, this is you telling other people what they're thinking. They could have all sorts of other reasons, but you just want to tell them which reason they're thinking. It makes it easier for you to demonize and dehumanize them.
People knew the Supreme Court hung in the balance in fall 2016 and the vote went the way it did anyhow. Now it's too late to do anything about it. McConnell doesn't care about being a hypocrite, much less being called one. Even if a blue wave comes in, it's a safe bet those federal court decisions will be overturned. It makes me glad I live in a state that actually cares about human rights.
Hello group. My name is Martin, and I use Facebook. I have absolutely caught them censoring political content, though not in ages. They literally removed link content from my posts after the fact (the links were correctly thumbnailed and attached), and ONLY political content. I checked the links from my history and the pages were still active.
I don't know that they are still doing this, but they still by default dick around with which posts they actually show you. You have to manually go to everyone's streams if you want to be sure you see everything.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
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So everyone that choses to march or support black lives matter are responsible for what the more extreme in their group said since they didn't branch off and make their own separate march?
If it's possible for illegals to obtain what passes for welfare benefits in the US, then perhaps the US benefits system needs to be fixed. In other countries I've lived in, you're required to show proof that you're a citizen or legal resident before the social assistance people will even talk to you for help with anything other than maybe a one-way ticket home
so you support bring refugee children in and then starving them and denying them medical treatment?
I know that's not what your saying but I guarantee that would be the next argument
"There were good people on both sides"
So, if at least 1 person was marching because they liked statuary, he was (technically) correct
https://www.cowclicker.com/
These decoy comments are necessary to contain the creimertards. Otherwise, they will molest your neighbors' goats and kids.
You are very funny, I'll give you that. What's wrong with you I can't even begin to imagine, but you're entertaining!
The best way to hide a lie is to bury it in truths.
I hate the thought that we may look back fondly one day soon on an earlier era where most businesses welcomed all customers, regardless of their political beliefs.
How do you look back on a time which never existed?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Nope. They did argue that their actions were following their law, a defense clearly predicated on the idea that they needed to follow the law.
Sorry, but asserting that the law is all they need to be moral is as old as the Bible, and a certain wise philosopher in it could tell you so.
To be fair to Trump, he probably doesn't like those people and doesn't agree with them,
That's being kind to Trump, and unfair to America. The Trump family has a rich history of white supremacy, and ignoring it is doing yourself and the nation a disservice.
Trump probably doesn't like those people, but he probably does agree with them. That's how he can describe Nazis as "fine people" without choking on his tongue.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
That's nice, but where were you when it was Obama being called a Nazi, Hitler, and wait, wait, Stalin...oh you were doing it yourself? Huh.
Are you equating BLM with Nazis? Associating with the former doesn't seem to be equivalent to the latter.
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Trump only demanded that the existing laws on the treatment of illegal immigrants be enforced. And he inherited these laws from his predecessors.
Trump not only had plenty of demands of his own, he also implemented the laws according to his own preferences. Indeed, he railed about the choices other officials, administrators and judges made, though since he has not prosecuted them, they may not have been acting illegally.
He made his own decision.
Yet oddly, he cannot take responsibility for it.
In my opinion, the issue became palpable in the 1990s with the beginning of the consumer internet age, the massive expansion of telecommunications powers, and the beginnings of the anti-public education campaign.
The sacking of public education began approximately in the 1960s. You're off by three decades.
The dumbing-down of the populace is the most important driver by far. The bulk of the educated populace is the middle class (the upper class is small) so they went after the middle class, not because they don't want them to have any money, but because they don't want them to be educated.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
If you can't admit the nature of the people who you support, then your bias and hypocrisy becomes quite clear.
Nothing new either.
You've been doing it for years.
The best thing about your apologia is that you offer zero quotes or support, whereas, well, oops.
Do you think he wants to make America white, or is his racism just driven by monetary considerations? I don't know enough to say.
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Do you think he wants to make America white, or is his racism just driven by monetary considerations? I don't know enough to say.
I think he cares more about money than about whiteness, it's not like he won't hire brown people, so long as he can pay them sub-subsistence wages. But I do believe he believes that white people are inherently superior.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This is a brilliant analogy. Thanks to whomever nodded an AC up. The difference between civil war and now, is everyone can be an author and printer, instantaneously. That amplifies the time to escalation.
I'd be surprised if Theil or other deep pocketed tech isn't prepping a biased Facebook alternative...
Sterns radio show, pre xm, regularly featured a kkk dude, Daniel carver, who's tag line was "wake up white people." carver was an idiot. But instead of suppressing carver, stern featured his stupidity, and ridiculed him. Suppression is the wrong way to go. Herald what you believe is stupid and wrong. Don't censor it.
That argument is akin to "I was just following orders!" If a law is immoral then it should not be followed or enforced. The Government is not some magical entity, it is composed of individual people who are tasked with doing its work. Of course the problem in that regard is that our country is not some monolithic homogeneous culture where everyone shares the same beliefs in regards to what is right or wrong.
From what I understand of the family separation issue, the law has allowed for the current situation for a long while. However family separations are just one of several options given in the law, but Trump has ordered that only the harshest option be used. In my opinion this is short sighted, foolish, and plainly inhumane. I wouldn't set out to do some home repairs and throw out my whole toolbox except the rubber mallet.
That's not the problem.
That's his point. The GGP brought up something, and GP was telling them that something isn't a problem.
Politicians love to cherry pick facts that support their ideology.
Then it's a good idea to allow all kinds of politicians to speak. Each will bring their own set of cherry picked facts, so that people can compare and contrast them.
If we start censoring certain groups of politicians, we wouldn't be able to compare and it would be much more difficult
That's what Kellyanne Conway meant by "alternative facts"
Maybe, maybe not. This is just YOU cherry picking facts to illustrate your point. Now imagine in a world where we censor speech of certain people. We could then censor anyone who speaks differently (cherry picks different facts) than Conway and co, then eventually her alternative facts would become the ONLY facts allowed to propagate.
Contrast to now, where we can compare and contrast what she calls alternative facts to what other people call facts. That you are here calling out Conway is evidence this works.
As a result people have stopped believing arguments even when they have facts to back them up.
No they haven't. As above, you're here now, able to tell there's a difference between what Conway says and what other people say.
Telling yourself people stopped believing in arguments is a good excuse for yourself to stop using argument and logic (read: to justify using violence instead of words)
They think that it's legitimate
I don't think that. I think a lot of people don't think that. I think it would be much more productive if you [i]stop telling other people what they think[/i].
It's a bad habit of yours, AmiMojo. You tell other people what they think, and when they object (like downvote you as flamebaiting, because you know being told what you're thinking when you don't think that is rather infuriating), you call them trolls.
both groups majority members believe in the supremacy of one group as defined by race.
both groups majority members want to tear down the opposing group, as defined by race.
both groups majority members resort to violence and intimidation tactics.
There are strong comparisons to be made between BLM and the nazis, and even with the KKK...
Her world is collapsing because folks she doesn't agree with got elected
Whatever you do, don't inform her that both the republicans AND the democrats are driven by self-interest and wouldn't think twice about taking advantage of her.
People don't get into the business of government ("politics") because they want to mind their own business and treat everyone fairly. They get into the business because they want to mind other people's business and treat them unfairly. After all, if you merely want to mind your own business and treat people fairly, you don't need the power of coercion to do it.
Creimer has read and commented on Slashdot for 20 years. A bunch of trolls decided to make his life hell. So he returned the favor. When creimer and APK went down the rabbit hole a few years ago, they had the decency to end their conflict after 255 comments on one thread (the system wouldn't allow any more replies). With the creimertards, ~20K in comments, ~200 DMCA takedown notices, seven Slashdot accounts deleted and a year later, still no end in sight. For those who are keeping score at home, creimertards are losing badly.
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"can't wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists."
Your defense is not admitting he said those words. It is admitting his intent.
What you aren't recognizing is that we know he is making such flippant remarks by his and your own statements.
That is a hallmark of his character. It's ok, we know you also freaked out when Obama and other Democrats used well-known idioms like the Chicago Way, Sit in the Back, and Knowing from experience rather than description.
Your rank partisan bias is apparent. I am glad you are so transparent. IOKIYAR.
Run along, Nazis. You're not wanted here on Slashdot, either.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Hitler did nothing wrong!
So everyone that choses to march or support black lives matter are responsible for what the more extreme in their group said since they didn't branch off and make their own separate march?
That is, in fact, the standard that the right-wing has long expressed, not just recently with BLM (even when their examples are few and often fabricated), but Muslims, Atheists, Scientists, MLK, Hollywood, and more. Yep, and then you ignored how, in fact, the extremists were condemned.
Judge and be judged by your own standards. Well, not literally. We're not going to listen to your excuses for yourself. I wonder why.
hahaha.. you watch CNN much?
...just means the next Democrat to become President will face the same type of tactics.
At risk of responding to a troll, FTFY.
Cheap storage VM.
Are you white, and more than second generation American?
Not really. My father's family came into this country through Texas in the 1850s, and it's Mexican. My mother's family doesn't exist any more. I'm a white hispanic, like zimmerman except I don't murder kids.
Your family probably has a history of white supremacy. And ignoring it is doing yourself a disservice.
It doesn't. See my name, puto.
My family came across in the early 1700s. they owned slaves and ran a plantation. We also had sons and daughters on both sides of the civil war. That's part of my history. Trying to say that makes _Me_ a white supremacist? We have a word for that!
Trump's father was a member of the Klan, this is not hundreds-year-old history. Your equivalence is false.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Should we start a zero tolerance policy for speeding? Lock people up, impound their vehicles, and put their kids in foster care? This is the equivalency.
Cheap storage VM.
Those poor unfortunate people fleeing to the United States and getting their kids put in cages? Yeah, that's been policy for 20 years. That was done under Obama too. Dems are digging for whatever they can to try to shit stir before the mid-term elections in a desperate hope that if maybe they can throw enough shit on the GOP it might cover up their own smell and they might win elections again.
And that's why they continue to lose; it's not about them learning from failure and fixing themselves. No, it's about slinging ever more shit on their opponents and hoping people just stop paying attention to the real shitstains in the Dem's underwear.
Free tip to the DNC: Get rid of Nancy Pelosi, get Maxine Waters to shut her fucking mouth, distance yourself from war hawks like Hillary Clinton and Diane Feinstein, and take Adam Schiff out back and Ol' Yeller the fucker. You want to be the people's party but then you've got all these shitheads running around flapping their gums with nothing valuable to say yet actively harming your chances with those who are already unlikely to vote at all.
Sanders may have been a terrible president, but he had people excited to go out and vote for him. You NEED that excitement. GOP voters go out and vote even if they don't like their candidate, because that's what they feel is right. When the Dem option is so unlikable, unrelatable, and unpalatable you turn voters off, some vote for other parties while others won't turn out at all.
The amusing thing is that the poster did the same excuse-making twice just in reply to me, when he dismissed all the right-wing Nazi analogies with a wave of his hand.
That it was combined with unsupported declarations of condemnation of the left really highlighted the nature of his approach.
Odd how like Milo he is.
It's not people with *different* political views, it's people with *specific* political views and tactics.
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In other news, Americans are total tinfoil hat wearing idiots.
If any of the social media companies were actively censoring political views we wouldn't even be in the mess we're in now. How is it that we Americans can always manage to come up with popular ideas that completely spit in the face of objective reality?
The person excused the behavior "because it was legal"---by your reasoning, that's irrelevant, since this conversation is precisely the "campaign to change it". "It" being precisely the minds of the readers in this thread, who all seem to be OK with, e.g., kids being separated from parents at the border. I'm not commenting on that, I'm commenting on the logic.
Facebook employees were caught suppressing user content that they did not agree with.
Twitter used to be more open but has bent to pressure to censor from corporate and government.
For example: Facebook Employees Are Quitting Because Users Are Being Censored
I don't know about politics, but I know from personal experience that Facebook - probably unofficially, by hiring unscreened bigots - censors homoerotic art more than straight porn photography, and turns a deaf ear to complaints about it.
You push lies every day to maintain your reality-challenged worldview.
BLM can't be equated with Nazis.
BLM is a terrorist organization.
Nonono, let me FTFY. (Hmm, username checks out though.)
Slashdot and UNITED STATES CONGRESS are tools of INCELS. All who use Slashdot shall PERISH. Only Almighty Diane shall be a reliable source of news.
As a libertarian, I find it difficult to support Democrats. Civil disobedience is with respect to the laws in question that are the problem. You also should be expecting to get arrested for violating the law that you're disobeying. It's the basic nature of it. Harassing people because they disagree with you or support an individual you dislike isn't civil disobedience unless the law you have issue with is anti-harassment laws.
So protest and otherwise refused to support the unjust laws but for fucks sake stop the name calling and harassment.
Actually, yeah, I think I'm good with that. I think it is the responsibility of any political movement to quickly condemn and separate themselves from any extreme group that tries to co-opt a reasonable movement into extremism and violence. The right needs to unquestionably put down the neo-Nazi infiltration in their ranks, and left needs to unquestionably put down the revolutionaries infiltration in their ranks. And both sides need to cut some slack to the other side buy not assigning judgment of a whole group based on actions of extremists, particularly if the above steps are taken.
These extremist groups are polluting the political land scape with toxic shit and making it hard for the grown-ups to actually talk and address serious issues.
Posts like this are what +1, Insightful was created for.
"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again."
-Mike Godwin, originator of Godwin's law
This is Trump understanding that just because the Nazis support something doesn't make the cause bad. It's bizarre that something he caught easily is so hard for you to understand. Hitler loved dogs, should we kill all dogs? No, that makes no sense. The fact that some idiots are LARPing as Nazis makes Godwin's Law easier to stumble into, but you really have to fight painting with a broad brush every time you see these clowns show up somewhere. Else you could be fooled by false flagging and not realize when the actual fascists are standing behind you.
There were a ton of regular people who just didn't see the benefit in taking the statues down. I'm sure a lot of them were just normal folks who felt like there'd be book burning and public beatings next. These people were standing next to "Nazis", but were actually standing for preservation of history as it was, and acceptance of the past.
You're conflating the worst of a group with the group AGAIN. Are BLM people all cop killers because a few in the group killed cops? If so then yes, the comparison is definitely BLM = Nazis since both conduct themselves in absolutely amoral ways. If you're willing to say BLM is a variety of people with real no central organization, and some people are bad but that isn't indicative of the whole, then you have to be willing to say the same about the ad-hoc groups which oppose you.
Pretty funny for a website you claimed no one heard about.
If you asked anyone today. Most people have heard of Reddit but not Slashdot.
[...] no one coming to his defense.
No one wants to be harrassed by creimertards.
Strange, all I see is a lonely middle-aged guy who no longer posts under his "author name", has no more affiliate link spam, no YouTube views and no one coming to his defense.
Strange. I see a middle-aged guy with 50 videos, 24 subscribers, and a view count increased from 7K to 14K in seven months, putting himself out there and getting better in front of the camera.
Here's the problem with this: America does not have unlimited capacity.
Yeah, the United States needs to decide who they want to allow into the country. That means that sometimes people will die, and that's very unfortunate. As it stands, the US is having trouble taking care of the men and women who served. Taking on additional burden without proper checks in place will only ensure that the US fails to serve everyone.
So we have to be selective about who we let in, attempt to use patterns in their past to see what kind of risk we're taking. People losing their children at the border attempted to circumvent those checks by entering illegally. That seems like a great way to start a relationship with someone, break their rules on the first date. If they were already turned down and they try to enter illegally, well that's essentially the same as following the date home despite them telling you they weren't interested.
It's unfortunate but the fact remains that it's impossible to help everyone. Even if you tried all you'd end up with is a brand new shithole that nobody wants to live in. And no, that's not a dig at refugees (although looking at the EU right now...) but a simple fact of what happens when a government collapses under the weight of its burdens.
Meanwhile the government has a duty to enforce it as it's written.
The law gives the government a great deal of latitude in HOW it enforces the law. There is nothing in the law requiring that children be separated from their parents. There is nothing in the law requiring prosecution of every case. The fact is that the Trump administration made the calculated decision to commit heinous acts that are in no way required by law.
And this:
You think the law is immoral? Great, start a campaign to change it.
Those the weasel words of a person who supports heinous acts but doesn't want to be held responsible for them. Cowardly and intellectually dishonest. If you think the law is a good one, own it.
This guy gets it.
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Wow, that's some IMAX level projection there.
Dylann Roof would indicate otherwise.
So would Robert Dear.
And Timothy McVeigh.
And Wade Page.
And Alex Fields.
And Jeremy Christian.
That's just a start. I could go on (and on, and on and on), but it should be pretty clear that you're arguing in bad faith by now.
If there's anything we've learned in the last 2 years, it's that most Americans are blithering idiots who probably shouldn't be allowed to cross the streets without a competent adult holding their hand.
... caught them trending two fake news sites that had attack articles against Trump during the election (my feed never showed me anything attacking Clinton). Until I posted on the two facebook accounts for these fake news sites what I had found on them after digging through the internet archive, dns transfer history, registration records and Alexa web statistics for the sites in question.
Facebook is a political tool. Like Google has become.
A lot of people - even Democrats - had a visceral distaste for Clinton (who was the worst possible candidate the party could have chosen), and figured that Trump couldn't be that bad. A lot of those people are reconsidering that assessment.
'Republicans, more than their Democratic counterparts, displayed concern over perceived political bias' --- given it is pretty much established that both the companies have a liberal political slant in their employees statement i don't think this statement should be a shock.
âoeTolerance applies only to persons, but never to truth. Intolerance applies only to truth, but never to persons.
Trump only demanded that the existing laws on the treatment of illegal immigrants be enforced.
This is actually false. Seeking asylum in the United States is legal. We are required by federal law and treaties to allow people to seek asylum.
What Trump and Company started doing to create this crisis was arresting people for entering the United States without letting those people request asylum. They can do this because you technically have to cross the border before you can request asylum.
Which means yes, there are laws on the books that conflict with each other. The Obama administration dealt with this by letting asylum seekers actually reach the officials you need to see in order to request asylum. The Trump administration has decided to deal with this by arresting asylum seekers before they can request asylum.
I'd say being staunchly left or right is a crazy thing these days anyway. The level of access to information is so staggeringly high that people should be able to easily tell if they agree with something without needing to pile on to a party to do the thinking for them. The world caters the lazy and stupid, I guess.
Are you white, and more than second generation American?
Not really. My father's family came into this country through Texas in the 1850s, and it's Mexican.
So instead you likely have a family history of slavery, drug trafficking, war, and human sacrifice.
Maybe NONE OF US have a right to act racially superior.
Personally, I don't "trust" anything from the big news outlets and probably never will. That said, I can consume their views and process it through the filter of knowing how those outlets spin a story. They all tend to conveniently ignore things that are against the narrative they're spinning, so it's generally a bad idea to use only one source for a story anyway, especially if it portrays one side in a particularly positive or negative way.
If it's possible for illegals to obtain what passes for welfare benefits in the US, then perhaps the US benefits system needs to be fixed
The vast majority of US benefits require that you show citizenship or a green card (permanent, non-citizen resident).
There's a tiny bit of benefits available to everyone, but that's things like emergency room treatment at a hospital. You can't live on them.
However, the vast majority of Republicans believe "welfare" 1) still exists (it ended in the 1990s), 2) is far more generous than it actually is, and 3) that there are more programs than actually exist. They have believed this since the 1980s and are not going to return to reality any time soon.
While that article doesn't specifically say they've killed anyone, antifa has been linked to injuring police (what did you expect when you're starting riots) and destroying property
How many federal buildings have they bombed? How many people have they shot while they were attending church? How many people have they run over with cars?
The answer on the political right to both questions is more than one in the last 30 years. The answer on the political left is zero in the last 30 years.
Heck, on the last question there actually have been Republicans proposing legislation to make it legal to run over protesters with your vehicle.
That's what makes this a false equivalency. There already is political violence in the US, but "both sides" are nowhere near the same level of violence.
Almost nobody in america owned slaves at any time that it was legal. Sorry your family sucks.
If you say that a rally that's heavily composed of nazis is full of fine people and your dad was a klansman it's going to make me wonder how much he rubbed off on you. My grandfather was gruff and sometimes not very nice but the worst he ever did by race was dropping some 'coloreds' and 'orientals' which is pretty mild as far as old people go.
That's the smoke but the fire is when you can smell trump's insincerity when he speaks, particularly on racial issues. Maybe that's why he's so popular with libertarian autistics. Your brain lacks a hardware bullshit decoder so you have to do it all in software with pure logic and it's just not good enough.
This is why trump is popular with hardcore autistics.
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It's great that twitter doesn't censor political views and I wish it turned a blind eye to what passes for harassment in 2018. The true tragedy is that it doesn't shut down altogether. Every person I've ever met who had more than a few posts on their twitter account was a raging asshole, the exception being of course people who had some practical use like reporting snowdays or traffic closures.
When I was single I used to give tinder girls a for-purpose twitter account. If they didn't have a twitter I gave them my google voice. Every pathological case had a twitter.
Even lulzsec... medium of choice... twitter.
"If you asked anyone today. "
Then why do you care today?
"No one wants to be harrassed [sic] by creimertards."
They aren't. Only you are. I wonder why.
What about this comment, comment, comment, and comment?
Since you enjoy chatting with creimer and replying to his -1 troll post so much, thus bringing attention to him with your +2 post, I am sure that you will enjoy the following tale:
Same pastebin comment in response to different user accounts in the same thread. Let's not forget the arguments over datavirtue, Joe Dragon, APK and God being creimer.
I loved this AC comment: "Actually, for the casual comment reader, your bullshit posts about him and his abuses are more annoying than what he is doing....."
" Trump and his associates and his supporters are actually doing things that are cause horrific and unnecessary suffering for people in certain vulnerable populations"
Prove your accusation. Remembering accusations aren't evidence, and the entertainment industry is not an acceptable form of evidence, as we have already learned they manufacture whatever they need to suit the situation.
If he really was doing the evil things you say that would be far more court action working right now. Not bickering.,
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
He's part of the Anti Chris League. He's just a decoy while we prepare stronger measures against you.
He's just a decoy while we prepare stronger measures against you.
How's copyright infringement working for you?
". Let's not forget the arguments over datavirtue, Joe Dragon, APK and God being creimer."
Fine, link to these "arguments", plural. There's very little fuss over you and your horseshit, Chris. Just a dedicated bunch of fascinated biologists wondering what exactly created you.
There is nothing to infringe. Nothing of value was lost.
There is nothing to infringe. Nothing of value was lost.
Value has nothing to do with it. Reposting content elsewhere without explicit consent constitutes a copyright infringement. You can't argue fair use when your purpose is to troll someone with their own copyright.
Nobody is reposting anything, Chris. Remember when you said it was easy to scrape publicly available content?
He did. When asked about it he said it was his "standard response", and other journalists have confirmed that he has sent the same message to them.
Yes, it's his standard response to reporters who email him asking stupid questions. No, it's not him "calling for violent assault on the press".
He's adopted Trump's attacks on the media and, as he is famous for, taken them to an extreme that gets him attention. He then hand waves them away as not serious, trying to absolve himself of any responsibility for the words he uses.
He's been "attacking the media" far longer than trump has, which is part of what's made him so entertaining. Idiots love to misquote him and accuse him of being an eeeeeevil Nazi calling for violence, but anyone who isn't a brain damaged SJW can see through that narrative fairly easily.
Nobody is reposting anything, Chris.
Seven Slashdot user accounts got deleted for linking to a third-party website with a unauthorized reposted image. Creimer 7, Creimertards 0.
Goodbye, Slashdot!
Those the weasel words of a person who supports heinous acts but doesn't want to be held responsible for them. Cowardly and intellectually dishonest. If you think the law is a good one, own it.
What kind of a cunt thinks that its "weasel words" to tell people how to fix something they see as a problem?
I DO think the law is a good one. I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise, but so far nobody has made any serious argument for why it's not good. Hence my "if you think it's immoral, work to change it" statement. You can start by putting together a coherent argument which doesn't just boil down to "hurr durr muh feels".
But how do you *know* that a "fact" is right or wrong? Knowing is by definition subjective. And you can only act on what you know.
This is why Nietzsche said, "there are no facts, only interpretations." You hear/read a statement and you over time decide it to be true or false based on endless subjective criteria:
- are you sure you heard it/saw it correctly?
- who do you believe is the source?
- what do you believe about the reputation of the source?
- how sure you are the claim has been correctly relayed from the source? How correctly?
- what do you believe other people -- who you believe are smart and/or reputable -- think about that claim?
- how sure you are *they* saw/read it well?
and so on, to infinity. Practically -- I believe -- we arrive to the decision whether something is true or false statistically, and weighed by how much we think the "fact" is important for us -- whether it's a curiosity or a matter or life or death.
Orwell was actually talking about Facebook, Google, Amazon etc. Big Brother is here.
Spoken like a true Nazi.
The problem is that the Federal government, and especially the court system up to and including the Supreme Court, is far too involved with the day to day lives of people. The Constitution created a government of LIMITED powers, in which the state and LOCAL governments were managing things, and that the INDIVIDUAL was mostly in control of their own destinies.
Now with the Federal government exercising a closer and more intrusive mode of controlling the people, "the people" are beginning to push back.
The genie will never go back into the bottle; the Federal government has become too entrenched and could never be un-involved with the lives of the average people. But something like that MUST happen, or we'll have to go back in time to the point when the Constitution was adopted, either with another Revolution or with another Constitutional Convention.
But SOMEHOW, we need to dial back the amount of control that some people have over other people.
I believe it was a Heinlein quote; "The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." Historically, Americans have been in the second group.
Your donut shop has a FB page?
Why, Rick's in Casablanca let Nazis dine and drink there.
And, BTW, nobody knows anybody's political beliefs. So it's not her beliefs that got poor SHS thrown out. It's her actions and very public persona. Republicans are just jealous of groups that have special protection. Victim envy, if you will.
" Creimer 7, Creimertards 0."
Hmm, then why are you screaming and stomping your pre-diabetic feet about the "living hell" you've been going through?
I have never heard you express your love for LGBTQ+. That must mean you hate them. I have never heard you say people who sandpaper little kids are bad, that must mean you support people who do that. Do you see your logic fallacy?
Doesn't seem to work; lies come fast and furious, truths take a little more work and can't keep up.
Hmm, then why are you screaming and stomping your pre-diabetic feet about the "living hell" you've been going through?
There's a concept known as "sarcasm." Maybe you heard of it?
even more than that, everything is political to the people that are so partisan - if you say that you don't think that the poor should suffer or be uneducated it shouldn't be because you are liberal, saying that you want to defend the country shouldn't be conservative and worse - the fact that the government exists shouldn't be up for debate- the discussion shouldn't be about if we believe these things it should be how we achieve them and what works and what doesn't - because you want to do something differently shouldn't make you the bad guy on either side. Granted the right is a whooooole lot worse about this right now but the left needs to stop alienating it's own allies by expecting them to all be in one mold as well.
the vast majority of Republicans believe "welfare" 1) still exists (it ended in the 1990s), 2) is far more generous than it actually is, and 3) that there are more programs than actually exist. They have believed this since the 1980s and are not going to return to reality any time soon.
that is because the poor and non-white are a really convenient propaganda tool - if the uneducated lock her up chanting masses of white faces learned that welfare queens don't exist and that immigrants for the most part are real hard working people with families that want nothing more than to belong to the community and not sleeper MS13 thugs they would suddenly realize that they are either being used or just plain assholes.
Don't worry, they're trying to ban Trump from the ballot all together. I think 25 states want to do that so far.
So it's never been a better time to be a Democratic candidate. Want to be the big cheese? Run!
Just be careful. Like Trump, you may get it. Then what? Nothing you do will be ok.
hahhahahhahha!
creimer is a nut bar always talking about himself in the third person!
CROFLOL!
CROFLOL!
Apparently, some people made creimer experience a living hell because they interfered with creimer's agenda to spam the whole fucking Internet!
CROFLOL!
Chris' case is getting worse, he spends all day replying to himself as AC on /. and now, on YouTube in order to grab attention!
The tests we ran on Chris have shown that Chris has the intelligence of an ameba:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
So, technically, he is able to conceive some kind of agenda but it will be silly or impossible to follow on a human scale.
For example, Chris had an agenda to post anything he felt like on Slashdot which did not work well because it was based on his false beliefs that he had an infinite number of karma points as he wrote here several times.
Several people here explained to Chris that karma maxed out at some level like 50 or so but Chris kept on insisting that his python script had confirmed that he had millions of karma points!
Oh well, as I wrote before: "It isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody."
For the valuable /. users that might already have read the following, please note that there is an important update.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education has invested money to buy Chris a new chair:
http://www.keynamics.com/image...
Information about Christopher Dale Reimer and autistic people:
Autistic people have obsessions about things normal people don't care. For example, one of our autistic patient went haywire when he realized that there was a penny missing in his pocket change.
To calm him down, one of our educator pretended to have found it on the floor and gave a penny to him.
The autistic patient condition went even worse because he realized it wasn't the same penny!
Chris has an obsession with budgeting every penny. He doesn't understand that most people do not budget to the penny and have a flexible amount they allow for miscellaneous items.
I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...
Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
https://ibb.co/gVad65
Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
http://ibb.co/mRVSaG
But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.
Thank You dear users,
---
Nancy Guerrero
Director
Special Education
Santa Clara County Office of Education
Here is the story of creimy the mountain and his royalties!
This story was inspired by cdreimer, the parent poster. The story was written by a visionary on cdreimer birth date.
The story of creimy the mountain explained:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Creimy is a typical mountain who poses for postcards, living with his wife Ethel, a tree, between the cities of Rosamund and Gorman, California. The main features on his mountainous face are two large caves, resembling eyes, and a cliff for a jaw, which moves up and down when he talks, puffing up dust and boulders.
click above link to read more, he even destroyed Edwards Air Force Base just by passing by...
Listen to the audio version here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
"Creimy The Mountain"
includes quotes from Pomp and Circumstance March No. 1 in D major (Edward Elgar), Johnny's Theme (Paul Anka), Off We Go Into The Wild Blue Yonder (Crawford), O Mein Papa (Paul Burkhard), Over The Rainbow (Harburg/Arlen), Star-Spangled Banner (Smith/Key), Suite: Judy Blue Eyes (Stephen Stills)
One, two, three
CREIMY the Mountain
CREIMY the Mountain
A regular picturesque
Postcardy mountain
Residing between lovely
Rosamond and Gorman
With his stunning wife ETHELL, A tree! A tree!
CREIMY was a mountain ETHELL was a tree Growing off of his shoulder
CREIMY was a mountain
(CREIMY was a mountain!)
ETHELL was a tree Growing off of his shoulder
(ETHELL was a tree growing off of his shoulder)
(hey, hey hey!)
Creimy had two big
Caves for eyes,
With a cliff for a jaw
That would go up 'n down,
And whenever it did,
He'd puff out some dust,
And hack up a boulder (HACK!) Hack up a boulder (HACK! HACK!)
Hack up a boulder (HACK! HACK! HACK!) Up a boulder
Now, one day, now I believe it was on a Tuesday, a man in a checkered double-knit suit drove up in a large El Dorado Cadillac, leased from BOB SPREEN
("Where the freeways meet in Downey!")
And he laid a HUGE, BULGING ENVELOPE right at the corner of CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN, that was right where his 'foot' was supposed to be.
Now, CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN, he couldn't believe it! All those postcards he'd posed for, for ALL OF THOSE YEARS, and finally, now, AT LAST, his Royalties!
Royalties! Royalties Royalties! Royalty check is in, honey!
Yes, CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN was RICH! Yes, and his eyeball-caves, they widened in amazement, and his jaw (which was a cliff), well it dropped thirty feet!
A bunch of dust puffed out! Rocks and boulders hacked up, (hack! hack!) crushing 'The LINCOLN'!
I gave him the money He acted real funny He hocked up a rock and It TOTALLED my car!
Oh, do you Know any trucks Might be bound for THE VALLEY?
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar (Dear Lord)
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar (No shit!)
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar!
By two o'clock, when the bars are already closed down, CREIMY had broken 'THE BIG NEWS' to ETHELL. And with dust and boulders everywhere, CREIMY, choked with excitement, announced
"ETHELL, we're going on a VACATION!"
Yes, and they WERE going on a vacation! (Oh, and ETHELL, ETHELL, ETHELL, like every little woman, she of course was very excited! She creaked a little bit, and some old birds flew off of her.) CREIMY told ETHELL they were going to Yes! They were going to NEW YORK!
"ETHELL, we're going to New York!"
But first they were gonna stop in LAS VEGAS
It's off to LAS VEGAS to check out the lounges Pull a few handles,
And drink a few beers, (Oh, ETHELL!)
ETHELL, my darling, you know that I love you!
I'm glad we could have a Vacation this year! (Oh, NEET-O!)
Glad we could have a Vacation this year!
They left that night, crunchin' across the Mojave Desert
The fact that you have neo-nazis marching in support of confederate monuments, speaks VOLUMES about what those monuments represent today.
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There's a concept known as "behaving your age". You've never heard of it.
Are you decoying them or are they censoring you? Which is it, you unwanted accident of nature?
I strongly encourage such folks to try being on the other side of that issue sometime.
I hear the same sort of crap sometimes in Sweden. Had an interesting argument on the subject with a gentleman on the train a couple of years ago who made the mistake of starting up a rant about that whilst sitting next to me. After about 10 minutes, I decided I'd had enough, and I spoke up.
Turned out that he was chronically unemployed (and, I suspect, an alcoholic), and that I, the immigrant who'd come to steal his benefits, had in fact paid more in income taxes the previous year than he'd received in his pension. "So, my friend, it seems that some lazy foreign invader paid for your pension and you spent lot of it on beer, am I right?" Strangely enough, he had absolutely nothing else to say.
It was very quiet in that car for a long while afterwards, with lots of uncomfortable-looking faces, none of whom would look me in the eye.
Gave me a warm feeling inside.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
This copypasta sucks.
Their is insufficient evidence it was politically motivated.
Biden had a similar experience from conservatives about a decade earlier.
Trump has advocated similar. You are cherry-picking.
Table-ized A.I.
The willingness of people to go from being angry (possibly only farcically so) to giving up their comforts and taking up arms against the existing power in what amounts to a losing battle seems rather unlikely (unless an economic collapse causes significant upset first) A coup seems a much more likely scenario than open warfare.
There are a variety of groups which might plausibly be interested in shoring up their own power, and it seems pointless to try to predict which ones are most inclined to take the opportunity to do so. This assessment has more to do with the ongoing breakdown of accountability of national leadership than anything else (With an unaccountable leadership, the only thing left to complete the coup is to have a president elected who is willing to refuse to leave office at the end of his term).
Those are paid actors. Bankrolled by George Soros's Open Society Foundation.
There are no Nazis in the United States.
"You think the law is immoral? Great, start a campaign to change it."
Pardon me, brother. Can you spare a couple hundred million dollars? I need to buy me some legislators & judges!
The previous guy merely pointed out that the government is enforcing the law the way they're supposed to, rather than ignoring it the way a certain previous administration did.
BULL FUCKING SHIT
Do NOT try to excuse this insanity with a lying-ass letter-of-the-law claim.
The previous guy was arguing that children should be taken away from parents who are simply charged with a crime that is typically punished with a $10 fine and time served. That is NOT "the way they are supposed to." It is vastly disproportionate. We don't take away kids from people charged for possessing a fake Smokey the Bear emblem, or transporting a water hyacinth, all of which are petty misdemeanors of the same level as improper entry.
Furthermore, improper entry is not illegal if it is for the purpose of asylum. People have 1 year after making entry to legally claim asylum. So there is absolutely no legal justification to keep asylum seekers incarcerated, much less separated from their kids.
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“The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human.”
— Aldous Huxley
The Olive Tree (1936).
What are you bitching about? When you decide that all politicians are corrupt and that you shouldn't vote for anyone, you abandon politics to the most corrupt. So of course the price of getting laws changed will escalate to the levels of the highest bidders. This shit is YOUR FAULT you stupid fucking mental defective.
Under Obamacare I was turned away from a hospital while injured.
Go fuck yourself, partisan scumbag.
Immigrants are not evil. They are usually hard working, good people.
Large scale immigration often displaces indigenous workers and drives down aggregate wages for the area.
Both these statements are true. Good public policy must recognize both.
FALSE.
Of all the research on immigration's affects on jobs, there was only one study that found downward pressure, and that was only on low-skill workers without high-school educations. They looked at the impact of 125,000 cuban refugees from the Mariel Boatlift entering the miami job market over the period of just a couple of months. But on review, it turned out that the study's author, George Borjas, had basically cherry-picked his data. That the boatlift had no discernible impact on the labor trends that had started long before the boatlift and continued well after it.
All the other studies found either neutral, or more often positive effects on the labor market. That's because labor is not zero-sum - for example, more nannies means more stay-at-home-moms who can enter the workforce.
This copypasta sucks.
Christopher, my love,
Never mind those "hump leg" trolls.
I am deeply sorry. I didn't feel well lately but I am better now since I had my meds adjusted. I am sorry that I called you all sorts of names on Slashdot and I feel truly ashamed of myself but somebody keeps re-posting my nasty post.
The python click script you wrote for me my sweet love for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work.
Could you come visit me in my studio so we could look at it?
Signed:
Ethell, Your sweetee who will love you for ever.
P.S. when I posted there was a funny form that asked me to retype the word "shoulders" in a text field. That's funny, I did a double-take and I went to look at your new picture again and got turned on. Please contact me ASAP.
+1 fresh: creimy brown
Hey there, people, I'm creimy brown
They say I'm the cutest boy in town
My car is fast, my teeth is shiney
I tell all the girls they can kiss my heinie
Here I am at a famous school
I'm dressin sharp n I'm
Actin cool
I got a cheerleader here wants to help with my paper
Let her do all the work n maybe later I'll rape her
Oh God I am the american dream
I do not think I'm too extreme
An I'm a handsome sonofabitch
I'm gonna get a good job n be real rich
(get a good
Get a good
Get a good
Get a good job)
Womens liberation
Came creepin across the nation
I tell you people I was not ready
When I fucked this dyke by the name of freddie
She made a little speech then,
Aw, she tried to make me say when
She had my balls in a vice, but she left the dick
I guess it's still hooked on, but now it shoots too quick
Oh God I am the american dream
But now I smell like vaseline
An I'm a miserable sonofabitch
Am I a boy or a lady... I don't know which
(I wonder wonder
Wonder wonder)
So I went out n bought me a leisure suit
I jingle my change, but I'm still kinda cute
Got a job doin radio promo
An none of the jocks can even tell I'm a homo
Eventually me n a friend
Sorta drifted along into s&m
I can take about an hour on the tower of power
Long as I gets a little golden shower
Oh God I am the american dream
With a spindle up my butt till it makes me scream
An I'll do anything to get ahead
I lay awake nights sayin, thank you, fred!
Oh god, oh god, I'm so fantastic!
Thanks to freddie, I'm a sexual spastic
And my name is creimy brown
Watch me now, I'm goin down,
And my name is creimy brown
Watch me now, I'm goin down, etc.
If many people expressed what they really feel they would go to prison or chased down the street by neighbors and maybe some businesses as well. For example the news media just dwells and dwells on shootings and to me it is simply cheap content. It's almost like watching the Jerry Springer show. OK, so five journalists got killed. Nobody likes that. Yet the murder rate in Chicago continuous to be a nightmare but that is not news. If it is cheap content the media will show it all. Meanwhile we have a lunatic as president who was not actually elected by the people who is a danger to the survival of life on this planet. There is every reason to think that the media should be grinding on him until there is nothing left.
That's the smoke but the fire is when you can smell trump's insincerity when he speaks, particularly on racial issues. Maybe that's why he's so popular with libertarian autistics. Your brain lacks a hardware bullshit decoder so you have to do it all in software with pure logic and it's just not good enough.
Trumpanistas will happily tell you that Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring out of a pizza place, and then in the same breath demand proof that Trump is a white supremacist even though there is literally infinitely more evidence of that.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
that is because the poor and non-white are a really convenient propaganda tool - if the uneducated lock her up chanting masses of white faces learned that welfare queens don't exist and that immigrants for the most part are real hard working people with families that want nothing more than to belong to the community and not sleeper MS13 thugs they would suddenly realize that they are either being used or just plain assholes.
Or even worse, they'd stop being distracted by the sideshow and start to oppose the actual causes of their problems.
Large scale immigration often displaces indigenous workers and drives down aggregate wages for the area.
More people increase demand for goods and services. So it's not as clear-cut as this statement implies.
The creimertards are shiny turds of adulthood. Let's sing, "Creimy Brown!"
Oh god, oh god, I'm so fantastic!
Thanks to freddie, I'm a sexual spastic
And my name is creimy brown
Watch me now, I'm goin down,
And my name is creimy brown
Watch me now, I'm goin down...
creimer is going down, down, down in the city of tiny lights!
How's content creation working for you?
Yeah and I like the response:
If he was left unchecked he'd do it a lot more. Based on his posts he believes each project he spams to potentially account for 6% of his retirement or something like that. So the only way to discourage him is to give him an unacceptable ROI on his time. Which he values very little.
Do you have a better idea?
If someone was here promoting MLM legal speed and weight loss wraps people would chase you to the hills but since your posts look more like normal conversation the pitchforks and torches won't come out unless we let people know about your scam.
The typical cre!mer victim clicks your links and gets bored having no idea that their time was wasted intentionally to get you a measly few dollars to spend on hungry man dinners and silver coins that will pay off in spades when society collapses and you need to open a door to get the T-virus Serum.
Yeah it's interesting that datavirtue and Joe Dragon are merely here to post badly and there is no campaign to keep them from using Slashdot.
But you and APK come here to promote yourselves are chased away by the forum members and from time to time IP banned by management.
I wonder what the connection could be?
You're shitting where you eat chris.
If you want to spam and karma whore do it on reddit under an account that you won't be sad when it gets banned or gets a bad reputation. Slashdot is a small, de facto private community for people who find it sentimental and comfy. A place where old folks can get back to the old internet.
If you want to come here, just do it to read and only say something when you have something to say, not when you can come up with something to simply post and absolutely not to advertise. Some people here would get pissy about affiliate links to shit you genuinely just wanted to show them and they even wanted to see. Almost all of us are offended when you're posting with the intent to get us to click affiliate links for shit we're probably not going to buy because you hope that later on we buy a TV with your cookie in our browser.
This is like owning a sensible honda(reddit) and a 1970s restoration pimpmobile(slashdot) and using the pimpmobile for your daily traffic jam commute. (Yes, I know you ride the bus you don't need to tell us again)
... Are you a nerd God wizard?
"No one wants to be harrassed [sic] by creimertards."
They aren't. Only you are. I wonder why.
What about this comment [slashdot.org], comment [slashdot.org], comment [slashdot.org], and comment [slashdot.org]?
We're not harassing them we're saving them from accidentally talking to you. I used to hate it when I accidentally responded to your posts but now I scrape the site for all you and FCLM posts and stick it in my RSS aggregator so I can see what you're up to before checking slashdot.
I wonder how many people would be interested in a no-cre!mer script that hides all parent posts and children after FCLM or Tardu_Lardo responds to them ?
Um.... You look like an animated puddle. [deviantart.com]
Hahaha that's exactly how he looks!!
When creimer and APK went down the rabbit hole a few years ago, they had the decency to end their conflict after 255 comments on one thread (the system wouldn't allow any more replies).
No way!!! That never happened. Prove it with a link!!!
They're very anti-Israel. They're anti-conservative. Both sites have an extreme left-wing bias. Only a fool thinks they're objective services.
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.
It's not as clear cut as either statement, taken as an absolute. Politics and macroeconomics are like that.
There's the demand issue you mention. There's also the matter of timeframe.
For example: On a long time horizon (2+ generations), massive immigration can be a big boost to an economy. Whereas on a short time horizon, that exact same massive immigration causes social havoc as the indigenous working class are displaced from their jobs and fall into destitution.
as the indigenous working class are displaced from their jobs and fall into destitution.
You keep repeating that fantasy despite being corrected with citations.
When it comes down to facts versus feels, you stick with the feels. Why would anyone expect any better of a turd like you?
Hahhahahahhahahahhahaaaaa.......
For a citizen of a nation that was built on extermination of one race, total enslavement of another and ruthless exploitation of waves of disposable poor immigrants you sure are funny !!!!
The US is one of the more controlling nations, and always has been. The Freedom mantra is only trotted out to keep the plebs and cannon fodder pacified.
snip...
Obama was partial to making executive orders and that is not always a bad thing. Relying on executive orders for the country's immigration policy is not a good solution
snip....
If Obama was indeed partial to making executive orders what would that make all the other presidents prior to him in the last hundred years? Wikipedia shows that they either did more executive orders or did more per year spent in office than Obama. Of the more recent presidents, only H.W Bush had less executive orders, but he only spent 1 term in office.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
You just proved the point trying to be made... this isn't about Obama, Bush, or Trump... it's about the need for the legislative branch to fix laws, and for the executive branch to quit trying to make them by executive order. But by all means worry more about defending president X actions than actually addressing the issue. :eyeroll:
As an American, I'd like to point out that most of my fellow countrymen are all fuckin' idiots. Frankly it's staggering.
What kind of a cunt thinks that its "weasel words" to tell people how to fix something they see as a problem?
The part where you act like there's no discretion in the enforcement of law, and that the law requires a policy that was just enacted this year (before which, multiple administrations exercised discretion to NOT create a humanitarian crisis), and that the onus is on the people who object to the policy rather than the people who enacted it.
The law does not require that children be separated from their parents, nor does it require every case be prosecuted. There's no need to change the law to end that policy.
What good argument is there FOR this policy?
Well I'm surprised. The numbers I found were higher than I anticipated but still lower than your 36%.
I think most people are wired to know that slavery and that racism is unfair. Though they use various rationalizations to allow either one when it's convenient and feelings about what's racist will vary from person to person through no fault of their own.
I don't think trump is most people. His apologies always sound totally sociopathic
Interesting story btw
The law does not require that children be separated from their parents, nor does it require every case be prosecuted
Congratulations, you've just described every law in existence. I suppose the next time a person with kids commits murder we should just ignore it. Because, you know, the law does not require that every case be prosecuted. And you wouldn't want to separate them from their kids!
Be honest: you're not arguing that criminals shouldn't be separated from their kids; what you're arguing for is the idea that illegal immigrants should not be prosecuted. You want law enforcement and the judicial system to ignore the law.
Be honest:
That's rich coming from one of slashdot resident propagandists.
Forget "lock her up." When this is all over, fuckers like you are going to be STRUNG UP.
You think libtards are cultural marxists? Just wait until you get a taste of an actual cultural revolution. We are coming for traitors like you and we will show you ever ounce of brutality that you wished on the poor and the weak.