Microsoft Is Making the Windows Command Line a Lot Better (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Over the last few years, Microsoft has been working to improve the Windows console. Console windows now maximize properly, for example. In the olden days, hitting maximize would make the window taller but not wider. Today, the action will fill the whole screen, just like any other window. Especially motivated by the Windows subsystem for Linux, the console in Windows 10 supports 16 million colors and VT escape sequences, enabling much richer console output than has traditionally been possible on Windows.

Microsoft is working to build a better console for Windows, one that we hope will open the door to the same flexibility and capabilities that Unix users have enjoyed for more than 40 years. The APIs seem to be in the latest Windows 10 Insider builds, though documentation is a little scarce for now. The command-line team is publishing a series of blog posts describing the history of the Windows command-line, and how the operating system's console works. The big reveal of the new API is coming soon, and with this, Windows should finally be able to have reliable, effective tabbed consoles, with emoji support, rich Unicode, and all the other things that the Windows console doesn't do... yet.

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As usual, they are decades late

[gweihir]

Still, it seems MS can eventually recognize what works. This will give all those GUI-only IT "experts" fits, of course.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[DickBreath]

But will there still be any Windows developers left?

Oh, well. As long as edlin still works.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Desler]

This will give all those GUI-only IT "experts" fits, of course.

Why? For what possible reason would they even care?

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

so true. most of the so called IT experts I know and don't trust inside my data center, they are GUI only. i smirk and send them on their way.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

They polished that turd so carefully...

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[mysidia]

Next I would like to see Microsoft make CLI versions of all the traditional windows management tools, and
then for legacy GUI tools; Group Policy Editor, Active Directory Users and Computers, Domains And Trusts, Sites and Services.... make the traditional GUIs Read-Only solely for display and reporting

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[postbigbang]

They're not decades late, they chose to be insular and keep things comparatively stupid. Now a few UI folks can fix it, having spent decades fixing the rest of their stuff.

Microsoft is about revenue, never make a mistake thinking there's an ounce of altruism in what Microsoft is, does, or plans.

If you want pointers to the body count, let me know. Or if the SCO-Linux-Kernel debacle wasn't enough, let's just say that they don't do UX for free...

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

You should really look into PowerShell, doubly so on Server.

Microsoft has something called the Common Engineering Criteria which lays out a set of requirements in order to ship something... as far back as 2011 (I think) there was a requirement that any administrative action you can do with the UI, there must be a cmdline option, with heavy emphasis on PowerShell. The exclusion to this is for pre-existing UI. Add/change a feature, cmdline equivalent is required, leave an older thing untouched in next release, it doesn't require touching.

Of course half of the exposed options were just WMI endpoints, which can be tweaked via PS even if no official cmdlets were created.

Source: Former MS employee.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Others have long since fixed Microsoft's failures.

ConEmu, cmder, Take Command and TCC. Plus, those don't have spyware or forced "updates" in them.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

exec c:\bin\bash -i I think is all they needed to do and did!
Bravo Billy!

CAP === 'language'

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

powershell has some of the worse syntax I've ever seen in scripting. Way too much punctuation, object name lengths are too long, oh, and it's slow as fuck.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[jlowery]

Amen, Brother. How on earth do they let such bad ideas percolate to the end user? I still haven't forgiven them for The Registry: want to change an operating system setting? Just remember this simple GUID: 229G-A17B-CC2E-82DD-E1AF-...

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Dutch Gun]

I'm a largely GUI-centric dev on Windows, but I think that's because Windows tends to work that way, and consequently has a lot of really nice GUI-based tools. For instance, there are nice GitHub desktop clients for Mac and Windows. But as for Linux? Nope - command-line only. So, when I work in Linux, I just sort of assume I have to keep various terminal windows open all the time, and that I'll probably be writing more scripts than when using Windows or Mac. It's just sort of the way things are done.

I'm comfortable working either way. However, I will say that I vastly prefer Bash to Powershell for CLI scripting. Bash is simple and fairly easy to pick up, if a bit on the clunky side. Powershell feels a bit over-engineered and overly-complex even when doing fairly simple things, and I've never bothered investing the time to really understand it all that deeply. So, I'm very happy about Linux tools, including Bash and various other CLI utilities, being ported to Windows. Because no matter how complete a GUI-based solution you have, there are almost always going to be times when you need to drop back to CLI tools if you're doing something outside of the GUI tool's expectations.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

To be fair, Microsoft was late to the GUI party. When they finally got there they might have thought, "we already have a shell for those who want it, but really Windows is the future. The DOS prompt is yesterday's news."

Apple too did something of a reversal on that, but from the opposite direction. They used to brag, actually brag that MacOS didn't have a command prompt. Not a-one! It was their way of saying, "GUI is the future and we aren't chained to the past." Then of course they did a brain transplant with NeXT, which brought along a command shell almost as an afterthought.

And even considering all that, yes, Microsoft was very, very late in making some command shell enhancements. However I suspect that the Linux Subsystem might have given them some encouragement? By way of contrast, and so very In Your Face for the Windows development team?

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[DamnOregonian]

I thought I was a reasonably intelligent human until I encountered PowerShell. 5 minutes with it, and I feel retarded. I haven't determined if it's because I'm too stupid to digest that syntax, if my brain cells are forcefully refusing to, or they're outright committing ritual suicide.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[bursch-X]

macOS is a full blown UNIX. How is their CLI an afterthought? There's actually a lot of stuff you can do in Terminal that you can't do via the GUI. Like creating bootable USB stick installers for macOS. Also lots of admin only settings available there.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Daltorak]

Next I would like to see Microsoft make CLI versions of all the traditional windows management tools, and then for legacy GUI tools

Your wish has been granted.... like.... nine years ago. Where've you been, dude and/or dudette? As a random example: Microsoft added Managed Service Accounts in 2008 R2, and you can see a "Managed Service Accounts" folder in AD Users and Computers, but you cannot create or edit them there. You -must- do it through Powershell using New-ADServiceAccount. Here's a blog post from 2009 on the subject.

Pretty much the only parts of Windows you can't configure through the command prompt, are some of the GUI elements. For example, there is no way to change what is pinned to the taskbar, nor can you programmatically set whether a tray icon will always be visible or not. Folks at Microsoft have said that this limitation is intended to protect the user from app installers that inject themselves all over the place. Setting crucial visual things like display resolution is also disallowed (except on Server Core, where there is no GUI to do this).

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

For instance, there are nice GitHub desktop clients for Mac and Windows. But as for Linux? Nope - command-line only.

You're talking out of your ass.

https://www.tecmint.com/best-gui-git-clients-git-repository-viewers-for-linux/

https://www.slant.co/topics/242/~best-graphical-git-clients-for-linux

https://www.maketecheasier.com/6-useful-graphical-git-client-for-linux/

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Microsoft prefers "intentionally bad + obtuse" to drawing on well-established conventions or legacy. Anything that hampers compatibility and forces you to do it the "Microsoft Way" is good. Many examples like yours and the previous poster.

Case insensitivity, using backslash as the directory separator, etc.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Darinbob]

No matter how you do your job, someone will eventually walk past and say that you're doing it wrong.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

“Next I would like to see Microsoft make CLI versions of all the traditional windows management tools...”
Uh, hello, welcome to the 21st century and a little product called Powershell.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Voyager529]

Still, it seems MS can eventually recognize what works. This will give all those GUI-only IT "experts" fits, of course.

As one of those people likely to be maligned as one of those "GUI-only IT 'experts'", I'll throw a few quick thoughts out there for your consideration.

First off, CLI doesn't always scale down. Making a hundred users in a domain environment? Sure, that needs to be scripted. Making just one? in most cases, quicker in a GUI environment.

Next, GUIs make things discoverable. using "/?" and man pages is a start, but the results of things aren't always readily obvious; GUIs can better reflect this. Discoverability is also helpful in scenarios where a task is done once every four months - recently enough to generally-remember it, long ago enough to forget the precise syntax. StackOverflow can help with that, but if lookup time is factored into the time entering the command, it's basically-impossible to make the time saving argument.

Finally, at least for myself personally, I don't administer the same exact set of systems all day, every day. I deal with everybody's systems. Some run Hyper-V, others VMWare, some have Sonicwalls, others have Barracudas or SOHO routers. Supporting end users means I need a functional understanding of their software, meaning I can somewhat-interact with a number of pieces of software specific to law firms, doctor's offices, restaurants, retail establishments, and others. GUIs (well-done ones, anyway) provide cues so I can generally figure things out upon first use if I know the underlying concepts. CLI syntax isn't as easy to pick up, especially in situations where the goal is to pick it up fast.

Sometimes, GUI is the right tool for the job, and the people that administer them are dealing with many, many different kinds of systems. It doesn't make them dumb (though there are PLENTY of dumb ones), any more than knowing how to use a CLI doesn't inherently make one smart.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Darinbob]

I don't know Powershell, but when I've encountered it I've been left with the impression that it's designed more as a programming language that you write while in an editor or IDE, with typing commands in from a command line prompt was a very late afterthought.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[FaxeTheCat]

MacOS became Unix with MacOS X. Up to and including version 9 it was not Unix.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Dutch Gun]

For instance, there are nice GitHub desktop clients for Mac and Windows. But as for Linux? Nope - command-line only.

You're talking out of your ass.

(lists of 3rd party clients)

A bit off-topic, but to clarify, I meant an official desktop client from GitHub the company, but didn't say that explicitly. You're correct, of course, that there are plenty of third-party clients that work across all OSes. I've been meaning to look at GitKracken at some point.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

It's better than com.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[gweihir]

There is nothing wrong with using a GUI when it is efficient for the task at hand. There is a lot wrong with calling yourself an "IT expert" when you cannot use or are severely limited on the command line.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[gweihir]

And sometimes they will be right. Your point?

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[sjames]

The big caviat though is I'll bet a CLI guy has a better chance of success when GUI is the right tool than a GUI guy does if CLI is the right (or only) tool.

Learning CLI is well worth it.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Darinbob]

They could be right, doesn't mean they're not annoying.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you stupid?

http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/superadduser.htm

$ superadduser
Enter
username
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Full Name
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Enter
Password
Password

How is that harder than a GUI for one user?

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Reporting? The GUI tools cannot copy/paste let alone even print what you see on the screen. Though with a lot of print-screen and scissors you can generate "reports" from the Gooey.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

There is, it is called NET.EXE and it has been around since forever.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[nazsco]

There a few IT people that write IT software.

But honest question: anyone who uses windows at this time, are still using microsoft shells? like cmd and powershell?

The very first thing I install on windows machines is the nicely packaged git-shell stuff (NOT the github client). It will give me bash native on windows, almost better (or should I say, more practical) than cygwin.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[datavirtue]

...or if you are an adult and want repeatable processes that can filter through change control and can be stored in a version control system.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[datavirtue]

No. Developers (.NET etc..) are all jazzed up about Linux so they are giving it to them. Mind you, these are developers who don't have to manage the platform that runs their code and they are for some reason poking their nose into what runs their code ("are these Linux servers" "Yes, but why do you care?"). Who cares...develop software...throw it over the wall to the people who run it...they can run it how they see fit. Really annoying.

This industry has completely lost its sanity. I'm in a .NET shop now that is going balls to the wall Linux. No adults are in charge.

Personally I would write in .NET Core and try to discover the best place to run the code--objectively. No one wants to hear that shit.

OpenStack and CloundFoundry remove a ton of bullshit related to software deployment and scaling. Instead people are fucking with Ansible trying to wire all this up themselves--thinking they are blazing trails. Welcome to the modern enterprise.

I'm currently looking into starting a construction company focused on waste management. This "IT" industry is just depressing anymore.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[jaa101]

MaxOS X is a completely different OS from all the MacOSes that came before. CLI is not an afterthought for MacOS X. Next you'll be saying that pre-emptive multitasking is an afterthought in Windows because it was only introduced with WinNT.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Ed Avis]

Recent WIndows versions no longer include EDLIN. It was there in NT 4.0 but is missing in Windows 10, so must have been dropped somewhere along the way.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[phantomfive]

Now a few UI folks can fix it, having spent decades fixing the rest of their stuff.

It's more than a UI problem, that's not a normal window. It's like some kind of bizarre DOS emulator, built for windows95 which requires (required) the screen to be a specific width. The source code is so ugly and messed up, no one dared to touch it. But now someone seems to have been working at it for a year or two, and they're cleaning up the code without breaking things (hopefully).

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Did that create the user account in an LDAP? I don't think so.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[FaxeTheCat]

I simply stated the same thay you do, that MacOS X is fundamentally different from the previous versions.

Your speculations on what I wil say next is just silly.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[LinuxIsGarbage]

EDLIN is a 16 bit DOS program. Only 32 bit versions of Windows include the ability to run 16 bit DOS applications. As I recall with Windows 10, and possibly Windows 8, 16 bit capability must be separately enabled. It's not available at all on 64 bit versions of Windows.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[thegarbz]

Late for whom? People who cared about the command line didn't use the command line, they used PowerShell. There was zero incentive to change anything, and lots of effort required to do it.

The commandline is a curious throwback shoehorned into Windows internals via a nonstandard process which is why it is able to be rendered even when the GUI breaks down in safe mode, which is why it is unable to be maximised, or one from TFA I never knew about, the process drawing the window crashing will cause the system to bluescreen.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[thegarbz]

MaxOS X is a completely different OS from all the MacOSes that came before. CLI is not an afterthought for MacOS X.

No one said it was. Maybe re-read the thread. Unless you think MacOS X predates NeXT...

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey those experts spent a fortune and a lifetime getting those certifications! Mkay!

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[comodoro]

Thank you for the comment. I absolutely feel this way, but strangely I mostly read positive or at least neutral things about that piece of software. I rather think about it as piece of excrement.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[tigersha]

Exactly. I use MacOS every days and spend half my life in iTerm. It is not even remotely an afterthought

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

And they could be wrong, your point?

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Despite the extra string conversions, .NET Core runs faster on Linux, and any developer who knows about running on both knows this to the point of being ready to ignore anybody who says otherwise. The difference is so great there is no point in assuming good faith anymore.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

I find it's always the GUI guys who screw up their git repos. Maybe having the rare-usage commands discoverable is bad.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[DickBreath]

Wait. So you mean, when I get around to upgrading to XP that there won't be EDLIN?

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

Maybe, but piping objects between scripts is fucking amazing.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

GUIs don't intrinsically make things more discoverable. Only GUIs specifically designed for discoverability.

If you think making edits in the registry or through Group Policy are discoverable, you're crazy. Even having different apps for different things (essentially all admin tools except MMC) tanks discoverability. Add to that a schemaless registry and scattered policy docs, and your GUI discoverability is going to essentially rely on Google to perform the discovery.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

OS X learned this lesson well. Simple GUIs, with advanced features only available from CLI. Windows tries to keep dumping more and more crap into the GUIs, until they are bloated and nigh unusable.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

PowerShell has all the same problems as every other CLI Windows app.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[xSauronx]

RE > But honest question: anyone who uses windows at this time, are still using microsoft shells? like cmd and powershell?

yes, i live in powershell. its very robust and functional as well as being well supported by microsoft and the windows powershell community. i cannot speak to powershell CORE, which is the cross platform edition. it has a lot of limitations in what is available compared to v5 that I use because it is based on .NET core. the powershell window in win 7 is not great -- i have to still use 7 at work for a little longer. it is much better in windows 10, based on this article still does not have some features *nix users would be accustomed to.

There are surely still too-many gui-only window admins, but that is probably more likely to be the case with SMB and MSP admins than it is medium or enterprise admins -- you can automate a lot of work and tasks in windows with powershell or group policies. You can do a lot of searching and reporting pretty easily as well once you get the data you want to work with. powershell is sort of great (if you are on v4 or higher). I've got dozens and dozens of scripts for monitoring services, processes, doing routine work, reporting on various events/data/user info, working with the device manager--all sorts of things.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[xSauronx]

there are still some gui tools and powershell components that are not up to part, but really, powershell is where its at. anyone in the *nix world that is complaining about it, or still assuming the windows CLI is garbage, is really not very knowledgeable about what is available. I live in powershell for AD work, reporting events, moving files, monitoring services, manipulating data, comparing data....it can do almost anything these days. some people may not love the syntax, but i like that its verbose (usually, some of the cmdlets are kinda stupid long) because i can see it and have some damn idea of what the cmdlet is for.

I support an app that uses a ton of javascript -- their syntax/apis/functions are not bad, but they are not that obvious in what they are doing without some research. powershell is much clearer.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

It's better than having to worry about the eldritch quoting rules bash has.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[xSauronx]

it is pretty great for one-off scripts at the CLI, depending on your needs, because you can pipe between cmdlets to do a lot of work in a line or two. that being said, for bulk work you will want to dig into loops and functions with the ISE or VSCode or something as piping does not perform very well for large amounts of objects. i could mirror a user group access for just their AD finance groups to someone else with something like this (though it is probably a little bit off)

get-adgroup daveW | where-object {$_.name -like "*finance*"} | add-adgroupmember susanL

or remove someone with something like this

foreach ($group in (get-adgroup -filter {name -like "*human resources*"}) { remove-adgroupmember -identity $_ -members tanyaM -confirm:$false }

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

If only bash was actually good compared to powershell.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

GitKracken is great, but I'm skeptical if it's worth an annual subscription. I use it primarily to stage parts of files, but I still end up on the command line a lot. Especially because I work on lots of small projects (Node.js), the slow startup time is a killer.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[reanjr]

OS X Terminal is easily one the best terminal apps in existance. Linux is only starting to catch up to some features (reflow is sick). Most definitely not an afterthought.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[ausekilis]

I agree wholeheartedly. the *Nix world has a focus on multiple simple tools that can be combined in interesting ways to do what you need. Think data piping, xargs, and as someone else mentioned - string operations. Because of these we have a lot of short commands that do simple things "ls" , "cd", "sed", "grep", and so on.

Microsoft, on the other hand, opted to nest things in obscure objects. So now you have java-namespace-like objects to do tasks. Its not editing a configuration file, it's instantiating a specific class to handle some configuration setting - likely in the registry somewhere. The result is long-ass commands to do really simple things and having to remember which obscure class of the .NET component tree you need to invoke to start the toaster.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[strikethree]

I thought I was a reasonably intelligent human until I encountered PowerShell. 5 minutes with it, and I feel retarded. I haven't determined if it's because I'm too stupid to digest that syntax, if my brain cells are forcefully refusing to, or they're outright committing ritual suicide.

It is because they do not explain what is REALLY important about PowerShell. You need to understand the various layers that it operates on and in what order for it to be useful. In short, the abstraction is hidden from you but it is VERY relevant to using PowerShell coherently. Are you operating on an object and if so, what is it attached to? You can't see. Some of it is WMI, others are C#/.Net libraries.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

They'll just make a browser-based command line interface like Webmin.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Shirley Marquez]

XP is a 32 bit version of Windows. There is a 64 bit version of XP, but because of poor compatibility and driver support very few people run it. Your 16 bit programs will run just fine on XP.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

“Next I would like to see Microsoft make CLI versions of all the traditional windows management tools...” Uh, hello, welcome to the 21st century and a little product called Powershell.

Aah yes. Powershell. Where they made the language so fucking verbose it's actually quicker to use the GUI.

What's faster in Linux: Opening up a file manager, surfing to a folder, right-clicking and hitting properties to check the space used? Or hitting CTRL+ALT+T typing 'du -shc /home/someuser'? Answer: The command line

What's faster in Windows: Opening up a file manager, surfing to a folder, right-clicking and hitting properties to check the space used? Or clicking Start, searching for 'powershell', right-clicking, hitting 'Run as administrator', approving the UAC prompt, then typing some stupidly long command like get-fileobject -path c:\users\someuser | get-sizes -format:$HumanReadable | format-table -sort-column-descending:"size"? Answer: The GUI. Fuck powershell. Nice attempt, but it's a complete fucking pain in the ass. Go figure out how to check mailbox sizes in Exchange for a nice example. In Linux you simply use 'du'--the same fucking command you use everywhere else because everything is a file or folder. Not in Windows. Everything is an object with its own archane syntax that requires an internet connection if you need help.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, they call this gatekeeping. IT has many facets with which one might be an expert. Many have nothing to do with administering a machine. I can navigate CLI just fine, and script all I need... but I don't like it.

This is no smarter than calling someone who dislikes manual transmissions a "non-driver" because they don't put up with a clutch and gearshift. One day you should consider rethinking your views, and if they are correct or if they simply support a grandiose version of yourself.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Looks like you missed the entire point the post you're replying to was trying to convey.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

yeah, you're right. jq is pretty damn handy.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[gweihir]

Did I anywhere say anything about "like" or "dislike"? I do not think so. What about you learn to read?

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[thegarbz]

... care to list them? Because it has none of the problems in the context of the change MS is currently making to the commandline. It sounds like you're wishing for something that isn't being discussed.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[bursch-X]

Ah, terminology. Mac OS is the new name given to the 8th version of what was hitherto known as simply System 6/7. Then came Rhapsody (a Mac OS themed OPENSTEP), then Mac OS X. Then Tim Cooke decided to rename Mac OS X into macOS (mind the missing space and the lower/uppercase mix). So when I said macOS I didn't mean Mac OS. Also Mac OS X has only been a certified UNIX since 10.5 I believe. Before that it was only a UNIX derivative.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Hal_Porter]

Yeah, but you can't do NET SEND /DOMAIN "POOP EMOJI" on your last day because Win32 consoles run in CSRSS and that only supports legacy Ansi code pages and has rather poor Unicode support. Well not until now where the console will get "emoji support, rich Unicode, and all the other things that the Windows console doesn't do".

It's actually pretty funny someone at MS is going to have to brain surgery on CSRSS.exe to make it support 'emojis and rich Unicode' for killer applications like this.

Re: As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, terminology. Mac OS is the new name given to the 8th version of what was hitherto known as simply System 6/7.

Well, to nitpick, it became Mac OS on version 7.6, not 8.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[gweihir]

PowerShell is a command line. Not a good one, but its nature is not in dispute.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Ed Avis]

Ah, of course you're right. Microsoft ported lots of the classic DOS utilities to native Windows versions, including the command prompt itself (COMMAND.COM became CMD.EXE) but porting EDLIN would have been a step too far. You can blame AMD for not including a way to go back from V86 mode to x86_64 mode, I think.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[Anonymous Coward]

As usual you moan about progress.

Re:As usual, they are decades late

[KingBenny]

they never should have let them anywhere near to linux is it too late for a restraining order before it becoms linux with a windows flavoured desktop SOLD for €150 a copy ? https://www.quora.com/Why-do-n...

what

[nnet]

why does a text console need emoji support?

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

How the hell else do you expect a millenial to be able to figure it out?

Re:what

[DickBreath]

Emojis are simply a side effect of supporting Unicode characters -- at long last.

Now Windows Console will support foreign languages.

With bigger and bigger Unicode character sets, every font will not only have emojis, and various human languages, it could also eventually have a set of font glyphs for every possible 8x8 cell grid. (That's only 2^64 characters extra in each font!) Then you could use these font characters to display text and graphics like it is 1980 again! That would make Windows Console great (again).

Re:what

[Desler]

So it can do things that Slashdot still can't. The irony will probably be lost on the people acting smug over this being "late".

Re:what

[Joe_Dragon]

emoji is microsoft's systemd

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

So it can do things that Slashdot still can't. The irony will probably be lost on the people acting smug over this being "late".

It's not irony. Anyone using emojis on the command line should be summarily shot in the head and their corpse fed to dogs.

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

The same way we figured out how to type on the Apple II (which ceased production only three years before the last of us were born)?

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

Why on Earth do they deserve that!? Those dogs didn't do anything wrong.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Or unicode? What a waste of time.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Sigh, the POINT is Slashdot still doesn't support Unicode. While that means no emojis, it also means no greek, chinese, or even coherent handling of accents and curved quote marks..

This is why you see strange characters instead of " when someone has posted a comment using iOS on the mobile site - missing unicode support means the angled quote mark comes as raw ASCII 7.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Next year is the year of the console applications on Windows! Emoji support is necessary for creating captivating user experiences. Outlook for Consoles will enter the contested market of textual communication platforms like emacs, pine and elm.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Why does Slashdot need emoji support?

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Just imagine...

$ git status
On branch master
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.

nothing to commit, working tree clean :)

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny that you might not realize it's a fairly common feature in Linux.

Re:what

[jdavidb]

It would actually be helpful for some screen-based readers I'd like to make that would scrape certain forums.

Re:what

[Desler]

Another aspie missing the point. Emoji support would come for free if Slashdot could even properly support UTF-8. You know a thing most websites have supported for years and years if not more than a decade.

Re:what

[Desler]

It's not about emojis. It's about Slashdot being unable to handle UTF-8 properly despite most other websites being able to support it for nearly a decade.

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, sorry but you weren't using computers the instant you were born, kid.

Re:what

[HelpTheNewOverlord]

So you can read your $SERVER log file when some user sent an emoji and crashed it.

You could always hexdump the file and then search on google, but one is much faster than the other.

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

We use arch you insensitive clod

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

Millennium has two Ns.
Millennia has two Ns.
Millennial has two Ns.

Yet you constantly fuck this word up over and over and over again, in the exact same way as always. Because you don't learn.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

The windows console has handled "unicode" since NT 3.1. Now it is being "supported".

(Supported is marketroid speak for the phrase "make money from")

Re:what

[Rockoon]

That is why shashdot doesnt support utf-8. We dont want to see your ascii art, or your smiley faces, or all the other ways that you are just a script kiddie.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

If you found the right hooker, the herpes would come for free.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Emoji support would come for free if Slashdot could even properly support UTF-8.

Ah, finally a good reason for Slashdot refusing to support UTF-8.

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

Apple ][ ? Bloody hardware switch under the keyboard that swapped the display of # and £ on the screen (let's see if slashdot can even display hash and pound symbols)

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

Woah Woah woah! You might anger some 1st Gen Prehistoric Apple Fanboi who swear by Apple II, worship Woz.

They are supposed to hate on anything Microsoft (for stealing GUI) and Steve Jobs (for Shitting on Woz).... so don't spoilt their Microsoft party okay!

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

Clippy?

captcha: portrays

Re:what

[DickBreath]

> Anyone using emojis on the command line should be summarily shot in the head and their corpse fed to dogs.

I have a worse punishment. I think anyone using emojis on Windows Console should be forced to use the Windows OS.

Re:what

[ConceptJunkie]

We dont want to see your ascii art, or your smiley faces, or all the other ways that you are just a script kiddie.

And the trade-off is simply that your post looks like a Jackson Pollack painting if you aren't using pure ASCII. How many posts on /, look like line noise whenever there's an apostrophe? How does this happen and why? Why is ./ the only site where this happens.

Re:what

[tender-matser]

With bigger and bigger Unicode character sets, every font will not only have emojis, and various human languages

That's not how it works. You use different fonts for different scripts -- no need for eg. a cyrillic font to support hebrew. That's how every program that displays text (browsers, editors) works.

As to emoji and other "non-traditional" characters in a terminal emulator, you could either give up on monospace fonts & cursor-addressability (ie act as a dumb terminal), or display some replacement characters (and show the real widgets when the user hovers the mouse over them). The unicode consortium has long abandoned any pretension to sanity so now we have "woman + school => female teacher" and skin color character modifiers.

it could also eventually have a set of font glyphs for every possible 8x8 cell grid. (That's only 2^64 characters extra in each font!) Then you could use these font characters to display text and graphics like it is 1980 again!

I don't know about you, but my fonts were 8x16, not 8x8 grids. And you were able to change the character slots dynamically, no need of huge character tables. That's how that cute arrow cursor was working in FreeBSD's VGA console.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

If you don't know the difference between ASCII and Unicode, you should apply for a dev job at Slashdot. You'd fit right in!

Re: what

[Anonymous Coward]

I post AC because I had 3 low UID accounts buried into never-recoverable bad karma thanks to those very fuckers you describe. An account with shit karma has FEWER rights regarding posting than an AC.

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

So, in other words, you don't know how to code with unicode support...

Re:what

[Anonymous Coward]

shot in the head and their corpse fed to dogs.

I want an emoji for that.

bash?

[Anonymous Coward]

We can only hope.

Re: bash?

[Anonymous Coward]

No problem, you got it.

Even comes with a built in keylogger!

Re:bash?

[Anonymous Coward]

No need to hope... bash has already been available for Windows for many years now, from multiple sources (ie cygwin or coreutils). And now with the Windows Subsystem for Linux, you have another way to run bash.

can I fireup putty and login to an windows server?

[Joe_Dragon]

can I fireup putty and login to an windows server? or wait will I need to buy server 2019 to get this server side?

Did they buy JPSoft?

[qzzpjs]

The best way to make CMD livable is to install Take Command. I've been using it since it was called 4DOS back in the pre-Windows days. It has always provided tab filename completion, history, etc (all those nice things in bash) and a much larger command set.

Re:Did they buy JPSoft?

[malxau]

I've been working on a free alternative (see http://www.malsmith.net/yori/). I won't be able to replicate all of bash, but there's plenty of nice things that can be incorporated into a native Windows shell, and it's sure keeping me busy.

Re:Did they buy JPSoft?

[Daltorak]

The best way to make CMD livable is to install Take Command. I've been using it since it was called 4DOS back in the pre-Windows days. It has always provided tab filename completion, history, etc (all those nice things in bash) and a much larger command set.

Why are you still using CMD in 2018? Why should anyone pay $100 per computer for the closed-source, proprietary Take Command when they could learn Powershell instead? Powershell has full Intellisense nowadays, access to the full .NET Framework library, comprehensive built-in documentation, and thousands of commands that can reach into every part of the system. Plus Powershell is an open-source Github project nowadays. Pair it with the open-source ConEmu for a wicked-good, fully configurable console environment.

Re:Did they buy JPSoft?

[Anonymous Coward]

See above.

Re:Did they buy JPSoft?

[phantomfive]

when they could learn Powershell instead? Powershell has full Intellisense nowadays, access to the full .NET Framework library, comprehensive built-in documentation, and thousands of commands that can reach into every part of the system.

Powershell redirect < doesn't work and redirect > can corrupt your files. Furthermore creating new CLI programs that integrate into the Powershell system is a pain. Powershell is great for administering Windows tools, but other than that, it's kind of crap.

Re:Did they buy JPSoft?

[Anonymous Coward]

Citation please

Re: Did they buy JPSoft?

[reanjr]

I call bullshit on "full intellisense". I wrote a three-line ps1 script the other day with several inline evaluations and property references and not a goddamn thing came up from intellisense.

Maybe there's intellisense, but nowhere near "full" intellisense.

Re: Did they buy JPSoft?

[reanjr]

Windows CLI has supported history and tab completion for decades, at least. If that's your selling point, may I suggest you periodically (say, once every decade) check out the alternatives.

Powershell is powerfull

[Camel Pilot]

But way too verbose and complex... sorta like a java version of bash.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[DickBreath]

Isn't it already a C# version?

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Desler]

Then why not use the command aliases that are much shorter?

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

Command prompt is Dead.
PowerShell shell is what's the future going forward.
You may also notice that PowerShell is picking up an understanding of Unix commands too.

Everything to be managed in a Windows Server will be managed thru PowerShell, if for no other reason than Windows Core Server.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

But way too verbose and complex... sorta like a java version of bash.

Or a first world Python REPL with tight system integration and the rough edges sanded off making it a usable shell. But who wants one of those??

(every devops engineer in the word raises hand)

Bash is garbage, I mean it is why we have Perl, and THAT is a dumpster fire.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Tablizer]

MS has too many ways to script OS-related stuff. They have the command window, power-shell and there are different-but-similar API's and languages they support (or half support).

Choice can be good, but it can also confuse and dilute resources. I don't want to have to learn others' 13 different ways of Windows scripting (guestimate). I can control what I use (if not dictated by the shop), but not what others use to write scripts in. Thus, it looks like I'll have to learn all 13. (I'm an app-dev, not a sys admin.) #IdontGeddit

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure, that works, but then there is no convention. If you're working in someone elses shell without your aliases, then all of your muscle memory is hosed.

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

I guessing because of the same reason you dont develop your app in asm........?

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[phantomfive]

MS has too many ways to script OS-related stuff. They have the command window, power-shell and there are different-but-similar API's and languages they support (or half support). Choice can be good, but it can also confuse and dilute resources

Not only that, every time I have to write scripts in DOS cmd, I would rather stab myself with a fork.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[rastos1]

Is it still the case, that scripts have to be signed with code signing certificate before they can be run? Some time ago I wrote a small app. It needed an installation that adjusted one text file, copied the binaries and created a registry entry. Those actions depended on the installation path, so I thought "well, let's create a small powershell script that does that" - and I was sorely disappointed that I had to get a code signing certificate in order to get the powershell script working on end-user's system. wtf.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

That's a Group Policy setting or can be set there.

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[pinkushun]

The Verb-Noun naming convention for your functions is intolerable.

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[reanjr]

You may want to stear clear of Linux, where there are hundreds more ways to do everything.

Re:Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't even need GPO. set-executionpolicy unrestricted

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the most nonsensical argument against powershell ever. What precisely do you hate about consistency and readability?

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[reanjr]

As devops engineer, I've never felt the desire to have a Python REPL available. Frankly, no REPL is signicantly better than Bash with readline, and nothing beats pipes for interoperability. Pipes are the one form of IPC anyone can easily get to work with Bash, Python, Javascript, Perl, Ruby, C, C++, Go, Rust, etc.

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[reanjr]

Until MS abandons this paradigm in a couple years when CLI is no longer the "new" hotness.

Re: Powershell is powerfull

[reanjr]

PowerShell has always come with built-in aliases to make the environment usable for Unix/GNU users.

Impressive

[110010001000]

I like the emoji support for the command line. It was sorely missed!

Re:Impressive

[DickBreath]

Bring back the blue scream of death which is even more sorely mist.

Re:Impressive

[thegreatbob]

What, you weren't satisfied with the two ASCII smiley faces?

Re:Impressive

[f3rret]

Assuming you want it to happen on a Hyper-V VM, do:

  Debug-VM -Name "VM Name" -InjectNonMaskableInterrupt -ComputerName Hostname

Re:Impressive

[f3rret]

Assuming you want it to happen on a Hyper-V VM, do:

  Debug-VM -Name "VM Name" -InjectNonMaskableInterrupt -ComputerName Hostname

Also fun fact: the Debug-VM cmdlet takes input from pipeline.

So if you have a big Hyper-V environment you can do Get-VM | Debug-VM -InjectNonMaskableInterrupt on your host.
Big fun.

So why is Microsoft doing this?

[mykepredko]

Is it to keep up with the Linux's terminals, provide better displaying or Linux apps or establish bragging rights on who has the best console interface?

When I RFTA, they even note that while Unix/Linux is file based (which makes a "terminal" console more appropriate) Windows is object based with dialog based apps providing access to the system and utilities. I do quite a bit of development on Windows (7) and I really don't find that I need to access the system via the "MSDOS Prompt" console and, when I do, it's adequate for my needs.

So, while I would have liked a better console for MS-DOS 3.x and OS/2 1.x, I really don't see the need for revamping it for Windows 10 and beyond.

As for running Linux apps on Windows 10: I would rather suffer the minor inconvenience of turning 45 degrees to my Linux box rather than the major security risk of Windows 10.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[Anonymous Coward]

I do quite a bit of development on Windows (7) and I really don't find that I need to access the system via the "MSDOS Prompt" console and, when I do, it's adequate for my needs.

I do quite a bit of systems administration on Linux, Mac, and Windows machines, and the "MSDOS Prompt" and powershell have both been lacking for some time. The inclusion of openssh server in Windows 10 and soon Windows Server is a boon; being able to securely connect to windows computers via command line using something other than the 32bit pstools suite is amazing.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[Quarters]

1) Because users overwhelmingly want it (based on UserVoice)
2) Apple has stumbled / is stumbling and Microsoft wants to be there with interesting form factor computers and an OS that supports what those people prefer to make jumping ship easier.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly. Apple's hotness is in large part because it wooed developers who weren't developing for desktop ios. Built in Unix tools, ec. And Apple has been moving away from this for the last few years..

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[Anonymous Coward]

The answer is simple and 2 fold.
1. Because Linux and AWS is not going away. Web developers, tech IT professionals, and Dev OPs folks use Linux on the cloud and on premise and want a way to connect, test, and integrate code and functions like sftp, linux utilties, node.js NPM, and the WSL on Windows (big one)
2. PowerShell. PS has copied things like the PS command and now ssh and it will do more and more things. Dev Ops and System Admin folks who administer just Windows and Azure will want something not 40 years behind their linux bretheren on the aisle over. Infact Server 2016 Nano is Powershell only! Server Nano is recommended because it has a minimum size and foot print for security with no gui at all. A nice Terminal to run PowerShell will allow it do more htings.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[f3rret]

They're doing it because MS is moving towards GUI less servers, current editions of Windows Server 2016 are "core" by standard, which means they don't install any GUI components.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[thegarbz]

Which users?

The users who already use powershell?
The users who install bash on Windows?

Certainly not the average user whose interaction with the terminal extends to that black screen that occasionally pops up when the IT administrator runs a script on their computer.

Maybe the BOFH wanted this so the script could then provide the poor user with a very BOFH emoji: U+1F595

On a more serious note this is somewhat at odds with the direction Microsoft has been taking of making Windows 10 more user friendly. Even the control panel was too complex for its users, so it is strange to see the console get any love at all.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[mykepredko]

I did not know that.

Thank you.

Re:So why is Microsoft doing this?

[Anonymous Coward]

So they run Linux userland (GNU, actually!) and they're GUI-less, so the only practical difference to a fully-fledged Linux box is the kernel ? Or will they start shipping a MS Linux kernel as well ?!

Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Rick Schumann]

When we take over and kill Linux as a stand-alone OS and make it available only under Windows, at least you'll have a command line window that won't make you cry -- even though your tears of loss over your silly little free 'open source' OS will still be sweet to us. Mark my words, Slashdotters, Miscreant-o-soft has had Linux in it's sights for a while now. Don't say you weren't warned when they lock it out of booting on your hardware.

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Anonymous Coward]

Honestly, Microsoft has done Linux a favor with Windows 10. Linux was a tough sell compared to Windows 7.

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Anonymous Coward]

Trollololol.

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Anonymous Coward]

The is certainly the highest possible scenario. The Linux Foundation play a major role in fragmenting the Linux ecosystem between various companies that make incompatible distributions. The mainline Linux kernel is now a totally virtual state of source code that no distribution use as is: all needs many patches because of the lack of agreement on how to do things, even as simple as producing a proper clean and functional kernel package like the distribution do. The vast majority of Linux hackers today work professionally to fit companies agenda set by management team, so only the specific company goals are tested and all the rest left untested. The Open Source way initially a movement integrate, normalize and extend compatibility. Today Open Source is all about fragmentation, disruptive changes, and extending incompatibility. Very sad period.

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Anonymous Coward]

How dare a company improve their products! Get off my lawn!

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Anonymous Coward]

So you think Microsoft will be willing to risk the multi-billion dollar EU fines for such obvious monopolistic behavior? What is the revenue upside for them to do that? How does that compare to the fines?

Re:Translation: When we kill Linux as an OS..

[Rick Schumann]

Put your glasses on, Myopian, you can't see past the end of your own nose. Microsoft wants to be the ONLY OS on the planet, and they've clearly and objectively demonstrated over and over again that they'll go to any lengths, fair, legal, or not, to attain that goal, and Linux is a threat to that hegemony and dominance. Since it's not a company they can do a hostile takeover of, they have to infiltrate the Linux community (done), influence it's development (done), then start 'incorporating' it into their own products (done). Since they have the power and the influence with motherboard and computer manufacturers to dictate what can and cannot boot on any given platform (i.e. 'secure boot' and the certificates required for that to happen) they can effectively lock out any non-Microsoft OS. For the moment Secure Boot can be bypassed, but does anyone really think it'd be that difficult for them to use their money and influence to convince everyone that matters that being able to bypass Secure Boot opens the door to criminal hacking, and should no longer be allowed? You shouldn't, it would be relatively trivial for them to accomplish that, they're one step away from that right now, especially in the wake of all the cybercrime and cyberterrorism happening. After that anyone bypassing Secure Boot would be considered a criminal, arrested and prosecuted for it, and their 'bootleg illegal OS' would be destroyed. Meanwhile Microsoft, in response to complaints from the former Linux community, would simply say "You can run your Linux OS under Windows, you don't need to boot directly to it, and this is for your PROTECTION, you should thank us for keeping you safe!". After that point there's no competition, and they'd have law enforcement, Congress, and PC manufacturers convinced that it's the best way to move forward. Any concerns about 'anti-competitiveness' or 'monopoly' would be responded to with FUD about cybercrime, cyberterrorism, and National Security. There, I've laid out the complete blueprint for you, you really going to try to refute it now? Even a child could see it's not far-fetched at all, considering Microsofts' track record, especially lately.

Added

[Anonymous Coward]

More features:

-More telemetry!
-More relevant Ads!
-More data-collection!
-More telemetry!
-CommandLine(tm) by Bing(tm)
-Bing(tm) will index all your files

Re:Added

[thegreatbob]

Sign me up, Botty! Finally, someone getting us back to the good ol' days of Kazaa and 'oops i accidentally indexed my whole hard drive!'

wtf

[Anonymous Coward]

WHAT YEAR IS IT?!?!

Re:wtf

[Anonymous Coward]

Executing daily babun check:
Source consistent [OK]
Prompt speed [OK]
File permissions [OK]
Connection check [OK]
Update check [OK]
Cygwin check [OK]
{ ~ } date
Tue, Jul 17, 2018 3:23:30 PM

Re:wtf

[jlowery]

It's later than you think. And still too early for Microsoft.

Re:wtf

[novakyu]

Year of Linux on Desktop! (Seriously.)

Re:wtf

[datavirtue]

Year of the Linux desktop and it is literally Windows. Cannot stop laughing---think I'm about to lose it.

"Cloud" storage of command history

[Anonymous Coward]

This way when you move between servers your history goes with you whether you want it or not.

Ads injected randomly into stdout would also be an amazing improvement.

I still won't use Windows 10

[Joshs922]

As long as it continues to be a SaaS spyware product with forced updates/upgrades, and has an onerous, unacceptable privacy policy that claims the right to access all of my personal data, I don't care if they make it nicer than my favorite desktop Linux distro. I'll never use it.

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[110010001000]

But then you are missing out on command line emoji support!

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Joshs922]

What ever will I do without CLI emojis? And Candy Crush!?!?

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Then why the fuck does it have such a hard time connecting to wifi networks, it does not even see some of the networks until i disable/enable the whole wifi? How come networking from a virtual machine worked great on windows 7, but now on 10 i needs to disable and enable the networking every time i reconnect the network cable?

Smooth my ass.

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[thegreatbob]

Except when it's not... silly fly/fade-in animations that make right clicking task bar (and other) entities a nuisance, etc... not saying it's all bad, just that it's far, far from perfect. They ever going to fix that recurring bit where the start menu just randomly stops working for a given user, never to work again until the next forced update or making a fresh user?

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Tell me more about this Illuminati of which you speak. Let me know if I need a tinfoil lid to hear it.

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

I love those animations. Makes me feel like I'm in that Tom Cruise movie.

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Look, as long as game devs aren't rushing to Linux I still can't see running *nix desktop as viable. I really, really, really, R E A L L Y want to ditch the abomination that is Windows 10 Spyware Edition.
So Game Devs, "PLEASE SUPPORT CROSS PLATFORM GAMES!".
I really, really, really R E A L L Y want this to happen so much. It would set the path to a rosy future in motion and end this tirade of mine and a majority of others who share my feelings on the matter.

Re: I still won't use Windows 10

[bursch-X]

You'll get a sore neck having to tilt your head every time you see a text smiley!

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

You can turn that stuff off. Search for the setting to "Disable Useless Animations" in the Cripple-Mode settings.

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Just out of curiosity: what do you do when user creates a directory with a name containing only a single emoji?

Re:I still won't use Windows 10

[iampiti]

Yep, exactly why I don't like Windows 10 either. It may be a technical marvel but it's ruined by publicity, telemetry, tricking the user into using MS apps and services and so on.

Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You "threaten" you'd impersonate me as you STALKED ME via UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous trollings of me too https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* You impersonating me proves you wish you were me & imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - but you = poor imitation.

APK

P.S.=> Grow up & do something useful w/ yourself loser... apk

Re:Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Suggestion: stop posting with your sigs/characteristic bolding, and watch the trolls get bored and move on. Something makes me think you secretly enjoy this, honestly.

Re: Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't think people generally care if you made an offtopic spam post or if someone impersonating you did. They just want the spam to go away, regardless of who actually posted it. As for the grandparent being impersonation, it's more like obvious satire. It's a parody of you, it's easy to tell that it's a parody, and it's actually pretty funny. Perhaps if you lightened up, maybe to the point of appreciating parody like that post, people wouldn't be so annoyed by you.

Re: Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm chilling on a yacht in Monaco with about 10 other people. Remember, I'm the guy with a net worth of over $50 million dollars who called your work the garbage that it is.

We're drinking wine and laughing at how much of a dumbass you look like in your posts. My net worth is at least $50 million more than yours, and I accomplished more today than you have in your entire life.

Over 1,000 people work for my company. If you were one of them, I'd fire you for your behavior.

Re: Impersonating me? Please... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I really enjoy watching you make an ass of yourself like this, and make a small thread balloon into 50+ posts of you looking foolish. I'll have to start these threads more often.

too little too late

[Anonymous Coward]

Already switched to Linux back when vista came out. These 'improvements' are already polished and refined elsewhere and have been for decades.

If you see someone say anything good about Microsoft, kick them in the genitals. After years of study of human psychology, the human condition, philosophy, philanthropic endevors ecumenical debates the results are in: HUMANS WILL NOT TAKE CORRECTIVE LOGICAL ACTION UNTI YOU THREATEN THEM WITH HARM. This has to do with our natural aversion to new ideas which stems from our flight or fight response. Good ideas which make sense can be presented but rejected and even rejected with prejudice if the mind in question believes that a held belief is under attack the way the animal would react to a physical threat.

So, since we are unable to take the sane step ourselves to get rid of Microsoft we need to take stronger measures that will properly interact with human psychology...so if anyone says anything good about Microsoft, kick them as hard as you can in the genitals, you are doing gods work soldier.

Re:too little too late

[DamnOregonian]

You're right. Fascism is nothing if not effective.

Re:too little too late

[Anonymous Coward]

I cannot help what is required, we are as we are and we should work within what we know functions and gets things done instead of day dreaming.
Computers hold with them the future of our species, how we will evolve, what we will be capable of. Treating them as corporate jizz rags is doing a disservice to ourselves and our children.

Fight for the future, if anyone says anything nice about Microsoft, swiftly and powerfully kick them in the genitals

Re:too little too late

[Anonymous Coward]

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[Anonymous Coward]

You don’t need the beta builds of Windows 10 even for that. SSH got added in last year.

Console != Command Line

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure, they're improving the aesthetics and usability of the *console*, but that has nothing to do with the command line itself.

Note to editors: Don't just reuse the incorrect headline from the source. RTFA.

Don't mess it up, I use it daily

[Trax3001BBS]

I dual boot and because of it my time is off in whatever OS I'm in. DATE and TIME are two commands I use all the time.

- Lost Linux Mint on a Windows update; didn't fix it for a bit, my time was always right.

Re:Don't mess it up, I use it daily

[Anonymous Coward]

You know you can fix that, right?

There is a registry key to tell Windows to use UTC, or use 'timedatectl set-local-rtc 1' to tell Linux to set the hwclock to local time.

Re:Don't mess it up, I use it daily

[Trax3001BBS]

You know you can fix that, right?

There is a registry key to tell Windows to use UTC, or use 'timedatectl set-local-rtc 1' to tell Linux to set the hwclock to local time.

No I didn't know it could be fixed, quick search on your reply looks like I can fix it.
Thank you.

X11

[thegreatbob]

I know a lot of people regard X11 as a bit of a dinosaur, but for forwarding a single application on a remote system, a native shim to the Windows GUI would make remote administration a whee bit less clunky on slow/high latency links... compared to full RDP session, at least.

I also know that various remote application services can do similar things (e.g. Citrix), but since we're already talking about a potential B-movie teleporter accident...

Re:X11

[wjcofkc]

I like dinosaurs a whole lot.

Re:X11

[Anonymous Coward]

Explains why you're always trying to rape them.

Re:X11

[Strider-]

Uh, this is why you have Remote App stuff?

My experience has been that RDP is far more performant and reliable than X11 over the satellite links I have to deal with compared to X11 or VNC. Not as good as mosh, but we're talking GUI here.

Re:X11

[DamnOregonian]

In my experience, even a full-blown RDP session outperforms X forwarding in most cases.
When you think about it, it's not really surprising as to why.
Forwarding all interaction with the GUI, redraw events, inputs (a lot of events are generated as that mouse moves across that window), is a lot more data than a fixed-rate rasterized product sent with compression.

Re:X11

[Anonymous Coward]

RDP is super-fast compared to VNC. RDP over SSH (Windows gets native openssh soon) is not clunky unless you have the whole desktop changing, like watching a movie or something ridiculous.

Re:X11

[Anonymous Coward]

Dozens of events per frame, each multiple bytes long - it's a lot, but is only around 0.1% of what RDP needs to send (before locality and compression, of course).

One of the issues with X forwarding is that the serialisation and streaming aren't done so well. Because of this I've found that X suffers if you use if remotely outside of the local network. You can get a huge improvement simply by X tunnelling through SSH, especially if you enable compression, outmatching RDP in my experience, although I haven't compared them recently. There are specialised X proxies (I can't remember any names) that do an even better job.

Oh yes, another more contemporary problem is that X hasn't really been network-transparent for a long time, yet still assumes that it is. The end result is that things need to be rendered server-side and transmitted to the client just like with RDP, but not done as well.

Re:X11

[DamnOregonian]

Dozens of events per frame, each multiple bytes long

Ya, no. Big no. You have to factor in the action caused by the event. And when you're throwing pixbufs over that pipe as fast as you can, 60 or 100 mouse moves per second build up a significant backlog of events. Mouse down? Send pixbuf for pressed button. Mouse up? Send pixbuf for unpressed button. Wait- you're already sending 30 other pixbufs because there's crap going on in your application? Well, shit.

Oh yes, another more contemporary problem is that X hasn't really been network-transparent for a long time, yet still assumes that it is.

No, it's fully network transparent. The problem is that there are extensions to the protocol in use that are relied upon to make the models performance not suck, liked mapped pixbufs instead of pixbufs thrown over the socket to the X server. You take away all the things that remove network transparency on a local machine, and you're left with what the network transparent model can actually do.
I have always loved the network transparency of X, at least in concept. In use, it's only viable on high bandwidth low latency networks.

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[Anonymous Coward]

Install Cygwin and use it to then install the openssh service.

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, you can, you ignorant muppet.

So what...

[Anonymous Coward]

1. there's no accomplishment in that... almost anything would be better
2. it's about damn time.. i thought you guys were supposed to be about "developers, developers, developers, developers..."
3. regardless of what you do to "CMD", unless it's a variant of sh and has the basic tools that go with it
4. if you expect anyone that likes shell scripting to use power shell, you aren't going to get very far
5. the best thing you can do is deprecate CMD and use a proper shell, then i might actually want to try it

Better suggestion... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

When YOU get registered /. peers saying this about YOUR work as they do mine? Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

* You WASTE TIME & can't stop me!

APK

P.S.=> Mr. STALKER or IMPERSONATOR of me as you threatened to do https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... instead? apk

Re:Better suggestion... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You're quick to quote the dozen or so people who have made a vaguely positive comments over the years, but ignore the legions of people who have criticised you or asked you to change your behaviour. With critics, you demand they prove they are qualified to criticise, but you make no such demand of these people.

Do only positive comments count, and everyone else is a troll or sockpuppet? Seems awfully convenient and self serving.

How about some intellectual honesty. If people's feedback is really in indication of worth, how many people posting criticisms would it take to get you to stop?

Of course no-one can stop you. It's an open forum. I can no more stop you than you can stop the person imitating you. I'm just curious as to the specific mental gymnastics that you'll go through to justify using only positive comments from people you've never demanded prove they are a better programmer than you.

Curious

Re:Better suggestion... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Too bad those people also say you are:
An asshole
Someone who overstates their ability
Someone who overstates the benefits of hosts
Someone who overstate the capabilities of hosts
Someone who should not be trusted

Maybe you can provide some other support for your ideas like a link to a security expert who wrote an article about how bad black lists are and that hosts is a black list. Or instead you can show your accomplishment of submitting a dumb idea to someone else's project that got rejected for being a stupid idea. Better still you could shitpost about how we are all paid shills of George Soros and a Jewish cabal who are paid to troll you.

I'm so excited

[jimbobxxx]

OMG! Will I be able to use cut-and-paste! Its like a dream come true. Good things come to those that wait. 20 years or so.

Paths, Filesystems, and Shells

[sanosuke001]

Can we also get them to remove backslashes from paths, the /r from a newline, and add support for other filesystems and shells? That'd be swell.

Re:Paths, Filesystems, and Shells

[Quarters]

cmd.exe has accepted either \ or / for path separators for years. You can even mix/match them within a command.

C:\Users\jeff>cd ../..\windows
C:\Windows>

Re:Paths, Filesystems, and Shells

[molarmass192]

I'll take a UNIX kernel option too instead of Windows + Registry. In other words Windows Subsystem for UNIX. To me, Linux Subsystem for Windows is like glueing McLaren parts onto a Ford Fiesta and calling the result a sports car. I'd much rather bolt some Ford Fiesta parts onto a McLaren and take that to the races.

Re:Paths, Filesystems, and Shells

[nogginthenog]

Tab complete doesn't work with / in the path though.

like powershell molasses

[Anonymous Coward]

If powershell molasses is anything to go by, by the time the window opens i will of forgotten what i wanted to do in the first place, adding all that crap will slow it down, make it faster than current cmd.exe and it will be useful

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[Anonymous Coward]

You've been able to do it through SSH for a year or so. You've been able to do it with PowerShell for quite a while now (a decade?).

Again?

[drinkypoo]

Wasn't that supposed to be called Powershell? I guess I'm not the only one who didn't use it, huh?

Re:Again?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, Powershell is a command line/scripting interpreter. That was quite capable at what it did, but one of its problem was that it ran in the same old horrible console window as cmd.exe.

This article is about a long-overdue update to the console window itself, as opposed to the command line interpreter running inside it.

Re:Again?

[Anonymous Coward]

Wasn't that supposed to be called Powershell? I guess I'm not the only one who didn't use it, huh?

Powershell is a disaster. Worst POS I've ever seen.

Re:Again?

[Quarters]

No. Powershell is a shell. This is all about improving the console so the various shells (Powershell, cmd, etc...) can gain vastly improved output (amongst others) capabilities.

Re:Again?

[Anonymous Coward]

So, you have never used it then and just assume it is crap?

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[jdavidb]

Judging by the article summary, there's still no distinction made between "the console" and "the command-line," so I am betting no.

sadly,

[Anonymous Coward]

they are reducing the window to set your environment variables to 10 characters wide.

Emoji support? Yawn.

[martinX]

Emoji support? Call me when they include memoji support. That's where it's at!

So, you thought Windows was riddled with security

[mistr]

- We have such sights to show you!

Re: can I fireup putty and login to an windows ser

[mistr]

I guess the point here would be no, you would just go c:\Windows> ssh user@winhost

"DOS Box?"

[CohibaVancouver]

But will this finally, once-and-for-all, end those online instructions to "Open a DOS box?"

I ahve tried to like the Windows CLI

[Anonymous Coward]

but I just cannot do it. I've spent the last year learning PowerShell for work and it's painfully weak compared to Unix tools like zsh/bash/sh, awk, grep, sed, sort, uniq. Being a Unix admin for the first 10 years of my now 21 years in IT has shaped me permanently. I use Linux and BSD at home exclusively, and when I get home in the evening, it's a breath of fresh air. Fortunately, I do have a Mac at work, so there is some respite, but Windows CLI and PS feel clunky in comparison.

Captcha: "cruelty" (how true)

We had ANSI.SYS in MS-DOS

[Anonymous Coward]

Just sayin'.

Smiley Face - Smiley Face

[Anonymous Coward]

Emojis! Joy!

Re:So, you thought Windows was riddled with securi

[Anonymous Coward]

Hellraiser.

Reinstate CMD

[Anonymous Coward]

Ok are you they going to reinstate CMD back to its rightful place in the right-click start menu? Because a couple Win10 versions ago, after they replaced it with the ridiculous Windows Powershell in that menu, it's quite a few extra steps to run CMD in admin mode now. Like when you're on someone else's computer trying to troubleshoot it and type cmd into the search box and wait a long time until Cortana initializes itself then right-click the found item and choose Run As Administrator god what a stupid pain in the ass.

Re:Reinstate CMD

[Anonymous Coward]

Dude, they are releasing as news that you can now re-size the command prompt. Seriously it has been DECADES and you can only now just re-size, and nothing else.

You need to join us and just stop using microsoft products, I wish I could express to you how much you will suddenly be able to get done, I wish I could let you feel that cool breeze of knowing you are safe secure and can use your computer, I wish you could understand how refreshing it is to use a system without anxiety that it will fall over and take all the data with it everytime you fart or blink.

The company is an abusive, illegal organization guilty of hundreds of millions of abuses of the computer fraud and securities act, guilty of monopolistic and anti-competitive behavior, guilty of HIPPA violation, guilty of treason by way of supporting and helping craft the H1B visa program, guilty of tax evasion....the list just never ends, I could fill a page with the illegal amoral garbage they have pulled and not even scratch the tip of the iceberg of all the things they haven't been caught doing yet.

Join us in Linux, we are waiting for you, we welcome you, view our extensive documentation, browse the inner workings of the system, feel secure and safe knowing you have a solid system built by competent people, play the extensive library of steam games which run beautifully without OS overhead bloat, take control of your machine with powerful scripting abilities on top of baked in multi user security with 30+ years of development and focus.

Powershell is not Bash

[aberglas]

What more needs to be said. It is ... different.

Unix shell works on strings. Powershell works on objects. That is an important difference. Especially if the strings have funny characters in them.

As to speed, it is .net, so I presume compiles down to machine code.

Re: Powershell is not Bash

[Anonymous Coward]

Compared to java, maybe. Compared to native? Hell no, .net was and still is a dog..

Re:Powershell is not Bash

[PmanAce]

PowerShell is not a compiled Language. It doesn't produce IL directly either.

So think of it like an interpreted language that just happens to live in a Dotnet Ecosystem which allows it to instantiate and interact with DOTNET objects thus making it seem like a "DOTNET language". PowerShell has its own Extended Type System (ETS) that makes it more dynamic.. You can create objects on the fly with whatever properties you want, or take an existing dotnet object, and add stuff to it. PowerShell is a dynamic language. With dynamic scoping. It is a pipeline centric language, which passes rich objects through the pipeline (in contrast to binary/text pipelines in unix) PowerShell is a command (verb and noun) centric language in philosophy and implementation, and though it is a RICH Object language, i wouldn't say its object ORIENTATED. you can interact with objects, and create them, but the goal is to produce task based COMMANDS PowerShell lives in different environments. It is a line by line REPL Command line interpreter, but it is also a full scripting engine that can be embedded in other applications.

https://stackoverflow.com/ques...

NEWSFLASH: apk 2 lrn2engrish

[Anonymous Coward]

prease 2b lrn2engrishing.

Sheesh.

[Anonymous Coward]

No. Absolutely not.

in Linux speak, you can consider PowerShell to be like /bin/sh or /bin/bash - an actual shell itself. However, without a terminal, said shells are useless (except for script execution perhaps.) It's also like cmd.exe in Windows.

What's being talked about here is 'conhost.exe', which is, in Linux/Unix/MacOS world, "Xterm", "Konsole" or "Terminal" - the GUI based application that provides keyboard input, VT102 escape codes and all that.

Improved, then hidden

[Anonymous Coward]

It's ironic that they recently removed the command prompt from the start button power users menu, favoring powershell. Some utilities we use don't work right in powershell due to the way they do command line switches, so it's been a bit inconvenient. I'll welcome improvements to the command prompt, especially on high resolution displays.

Re:Improved, then hidden

[Anonymous Coward]

On my computer it's set to cmd.exe (such that if I need to run Powershell that's harder)

Not that I'm complaining

[Anonymous Coward]

It seems a little amusing that Microsoft, the company that has spent decades trying to make it so you never need to see a command line, is now working to improve the command line.

enough said

[NikeHerc]

"Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." --Henry Spencer

Re:enough said

[thegarbz]

"Those who do not understand Henry Spencers quote are condemned to post it, irrelevantly." --thegarbz

Re:enough said

[NikeHerc]

"Those who do not understand Henry Spencers quote are condemned to post it, irrelevantly." --thegarbz

"Those who do not understand the original post are condemned to reply irrelevantly." --me

Those who like my work aren't like YOU... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Mr UNIDENTIFIABLE do-nothing NOBODY Jealous "Lil' Jowie" you are, lol (that's quick to avoid that fact about your wasted life self).

* Those putting me down? LOL - easy to be 100 FAKE NAMES sockpuppets (like you use to farm "downmodpoints" I RUN YOU DRY OF - lol!).

INTELLECTUAL HONESTY & FACT: YOU ARE POWERLESS AGAINST ME & I LOVE IT!

(Get it? Good).

APK

P.S.=> Keep wasting your time & effort for nothing (that's about all you are good for, nothing, anyhow)... apk

Re:Those who like my work aren't like YOU... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

How do you explain the user IDs that are years apart in some cases?

Why do you use a double standard - where you accuse negative comments as being from fake accounts, but seem to believe that every positive comment is sincere and unique?

I challenged you to be intellectually honest. You aren't. Simply repeating the phrase back to me doesn't address this at all.

YOU ARE POWERLESS AGAINST ME & I LOVE IT!

And that, right there, is what this is all about.

Your life is so devoid of meaningful and fulfilling relationships that all you can do is make obnoxious posts and revel when people ask you to stop.

Take a good look at your own post, APK.
You are one sad, sorry individual. You have my pity.

Sincerely

Learn to read retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: ... OR get your hooked on phonics lessons out (Or take your ADD/ADHD & Dyslexia medications loony boy).

* You FEAR me... & IF you are who I am almost CERTAIN You are (or who you represent)? You should.

APK

P.S.=> Puny DEFECTIVE deficient INFERIOR WORM you are (& you KNOW it - why else HIDE from me STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts you do 'trolling' me?)... apk

Re:Learn to read retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I bet you think that was Zontar The Mindless. Or are you going with one of the many others on your list of enemies like Ol Olsoc, arth1, Khyber, Whipslash, Brockmire, JustAnotherOldDude or someone else on that giant list of yours. Just remember six little letters: S P H and N P D.

But why?

[Anonymous Coward]

People kept saying that you never need to open a command prompt for Windows was some kind of advantage (over what I don't know because the same goes for any other OS anyway)...

How's it FEEL to "want", lol? apk

[Anonymous Coward]

How's it FEEL to "want"? I could care LESS what you 'want' & THINK?? That's an impossibility for "your kind" (brainless do-nothing dolts), lol!

* My gosh - LOOK @ THAT: Dimwit DOUCHEBAG admits everyone KNOWS you're IMPERSONATING ME!

(Will wonders NEVER cease!)

APK

P.S.=> Perhaps if you went & FUCKED YOURSELF you wouldn't be annoyed (@ yourself & your life of failure since you're FAILING vs. me as always & CANNOT STOP ME)... apk

Won't happen

[duke_cheetah2003]

See, the UNIX paradigm has been something that Microsoft has never been able to swallow. Keep it simple. That's it. That's why all the UNIX commands we know and love have survived through the years, they are simple. They get the job done.

Stuff has been added, sure, but most of the original shell and common system commands have remained the same, decades on. Some 50 years of sameness and simplicity that Microsoft will never understand.

In all my dealings with Microsoft software, they seem to strive to make things as complicated and insane as possible. Even this new powershell, the commands are needlessly long, with long parameters names and very strict syntax. And not to be outdone, a whole new spam of technobabble error messages. Their APIs and programming languages are the same way, sure they are pretty powerful, but the complexity, nothing is simple. Simple isn't something Microsoft does. So they'll never be able to ever be 'unix' like.

Re:Won't happen

[Anonymous Coward]

Simple like Korn Shell (the standard POSIX shell)?
Have you looked at the syntax of some of those things?

Re:Won't happen

[strikethree]

See, the UNIX paradigm has been something that Microsoft has never been able to swallow. Keep it simple. That's it. That's why all the UNIX commands we know and love have survived through the years, they are simple. They get the job done.

Well, SystemD is trying to make a liar out of you. Pardon me while I roll my eyes in their general direction.

Microsoft...

[Excelcia]

Microsoft...

...hasn't made anything better since Windows 3.1.

The CLI maximizing properly is news? That's a /lot/ better? That's "Microsoft Better". Microsoft has embraced, extended, and now extinguished the word "better".

Clink for older Windows

[trawg]

If you're still on Windows 7 or 8.1 like I am on most of my PCs, check out Clink - an extension for the Windows command line that adds bash-style command line functionality to cmd.exe.

I was only just introduced to this by a colleague and can't believe I only just discovered it. Supports things like CTRL-V copy/paste which is pretty handy.

Next?

[Anonymous Coward]

Next I would like to see Microsoft shrivel up and die. C'mon, folks. I'm an old man already. Please do it before I die!

The patent expired on DR-DOS

[Anonymous Coward]

So MS can steal the good commands from that now...

There's a command line in WIndows? Wow!

[AntisocialNetworker]

What's it for?

Your file locking sucks. Period.

[Anonymous Coward]

Do whatever you need to your cli. It does not address the most fundamental problem of Windows. Mandatory file locking. It's stoneage idiot tech.

And yet

[Anonymous Coward]

And yet right-click Start in Windows 10 shows PowerShell now, instead of Command Prompt.

Missing the point

[Anonymous Coward]

This is ridiculous. They're missing the point of what the terminal needs to do. It just needs to be basic and provide a quick and easy way of communicating with the system. It's like adding MP3 decoding to a record player. Technically clever, but utterly pointless. No one will utilise the extra functionality, and it doesnt have any reason to actually exist.

Re:can I fireup putty and login to an windows serv

[thegarbz]

You can fire up putty and login to any Windows machine providing it is in developer mode. Better* still you don't even need to fire up putty. Just use the built in ssh client in Windows. Get with the times.

*Actually not better. The built-in ssh client in Windows 10 is quite basic.

You ain't shit, buddy

[Anonymous Coward]

Hint: I didn't write the OP.

Yes, APK, how does it feel to want? How does it feel to have been such an asshole to others that multiple people parody your posts and impersonate you? How does it feel to want people to stop impersonating you and writing parodies of your posts?

There's a long history of posts you've made online being a complete asshole to others. They're easily searchable with Google and are very revealing about your character. Reputation matters, especially since you want people to use your software. You've destroyed your reputation. When people see "APK", they think of spam and harassment, not useful software. If you weren't so delusional, you'd see how you've trashed your reputation, probably beyond repair.

I'm telling you what you need to hear. I'm hardly the only person with these opinions of you. I don't care what you think of me or what you think you know about me. I'm posting this because you need to be honest with yourself about how you've treated others and destroyed your reputation.

As for accomplishments, you've written software that downloads other people's hosts files, concatenates them, sorts that file, and removes duplicates. Your program is incredibly slow and poorly written because you lack programming skills. It's garbage. If your program was well-written and useful, it would be far more widely recommended than it is. With all the years of spamming you've done, you can only find seven or eight logged-in Slashdot users to say anything positive about your software? I guarantee there's no shortage of people to say good things about Noscript, uBlock, and uMatrix. You need to downsize your ego.

Also, why is it that all the publications you cite of yours are over a decade old? Perhaps your awful reputation is so widely known that nobody wants to publish what you have to say. Again, reputation matters, and yours is shit.

No one else may think much of you, but you sure think you're powerful and mighty. You're obsessed with the power you think you have. I'm here to speak truth to power.

You ain't shit, buddy.

- CBN

I'll finally be able to name folders with poop?

[sabbede]

The poop emoji that is. I've waited too long for that ability as-is.

You've a reputation as a STALKER... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: That's YOUR shitty "reputation" UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING pussy you are, lol...

* You're WEAK & STUPID!

(I don't have to "HIDE" like you DO, moron...)

APK

P.S.=> Pusscake, ANYTIME you want to meet me FACE to FACE in person & talk like that to me is the DAY you prepare yourself to go to the EMERGENCY WARD for SEVERE INJURY I'd inflict on you, you fucking WHIMP... apk

Re: You've a reputation as a STALKER... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm not impersonating you. As for your threat, you're not man enough to come to Nebraska and back it up. You and I both know you're bluffing.

Correct: I'm not shit (but YOU are, lol)

[Anonymous Coward]

You ain't shit, buddy - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous WEEZIL Coward on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @06:44AM (#56967068)

See subject & truth of MYSELF + your sorry "ne'er-do-well" do NOTHING whimp ass, lmao - you've done MORE, BETTER & EARLIER than I loser? Our /. PEERS like & use YOUR non-existent work as they do MINE speaking well of it??

* PROVE IT BITCH!

( FACT: Your SORRY stupid ass can't - & THAT is truly, that... )

APK

P.S.=> Your reputation, as I stated as fact in my other reply to your WEEZIL whimp ass STALKING me? Is that of the PUNY JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" WHIMP are you, nothing more - of course, I do offer you a FAIR CHANCE to prove others like & use your work (as they do mine) but then again, I know + so do YOU, that you aren't GOOD ENOUGH for that to EVER happen to a SLINKING skulking PUNY WORM like you, hahahahaha... apk

I'm LAUGHING @ "your kind"... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Behind FAKE NAMES for your wasted lives STALKING me behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts proving you FEAR me!

* LOL!

(Truer words were NEVER spoken on /. ...)

APK

P.S.=> Slinking & Skulk around WORM - it's about ALL "your kind" (low) can manage as the JEALOUS "Lil' Jowies" (lmao) you are... apk

Re: I'm LAUGHING @ "your kind"... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Here's an anology. I'm not afraid of flies, yet I try to keep them from getting in my house. They're unhelpful, annoying, and sometimes difficult to get out once they get in. You're like a fly, annoying as hell, unhelpful, and hard to get rid of. People post anonymously to avoid the hassle of dealing with your harassment. It's not fear, but a desire to avoid the annoyance of a fly buzzing around.

Buzz off, Kowalsky.

I didn't know they have whimps like you there

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: In Nebraska HIDING from me STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous that can't do MORE, BETTER & EARLIER than I...

APK

P.S.=> I do NOW though - you helped PROVE it being the JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (oh, how I LOVE calling you that which you are, hahahaha) you are... apk

Re: I didn't know they have whimps like you there

[Anonymous Coward]

Too much of a coward to come to Nebraska and back up your threats? Got it.

The last thing missing from Windows ...

[Anonymous Coward]

was support for 16 million colors in a command window. /sarcasm

It's done, Windows needs no more work.

RoTfLmAo: You're the one HIDING whimp... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

RoTfLmAo: You're the one HIDING whimp as you STALK me (big man (not)) behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous WEEZIL posts you do, lol!

* FACT...

APK

P.S.=> You LOSE as always pussy - but that's nothing NEW for you now is it? No, it's not - especially vs. me... apk

Re: RoTfLmAo: You're the one HIDING whimp... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Come to downtown Lincoln. I'm not hiding. I'm trying to get you to back up your threats, but you're not interested. You're not scared, are you? Hell, if you want out of your violent threats, we'll just hit up a bar downtown. You can drink your piss beer (that's what Miller High Life is) and I'll drink manly beers like IPAs, stouts, and porters. Lazlo's (Empyrean) has a pretty good vanilla porter, I must say.

If you're not going to back up your threats, don't make them to begin with. I'm calling your bluff. I'm not hiding; you are. At least be enough to a man to admit your bluff got called and you have no intention of carrying out your threats.

You're an UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous flea

[Anonymous Coward]

You're an UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous flea that PROVES he FEARS me HIDING, lol - & there is NO DENYING IT (+ you certainly haven't done MORE, BETTER & EARLIER than I in code others LIKE & USE (my work, NOT your non-existent HOTAIRWARE by "Mr. Blowhard DO-NOTHING" mere "ne'er-do-well" JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lol, I love calling you what you are) you are)).

* Hahahahaha!

QUESTION: What's it LIKE knowing you're INFERIOR & DEFICIENT? I gave you the chance to PROVE others, especially our /. PEERS like + use YOUR WORK (that doesn't exist, lol) as they do mine - yet YOU HAVE ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF (you are a zero is why, lol).

APK

P.S.=> Face 1 fact: I RULE YOU & "your kind" + you FEAR me (obviously, since you STALK ME by your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous WEEZIL posts, making me laugh all the MORE @ you)... apk

Re: You're an UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous flea

[Anonymous Coward]

Prove that any Slashdot users (besides you) like and use the Linux version of your hosts file software. All your out-of-context testimonials are for the Windows version.

I don't think anyone likes or uses your hosts file software.

Buzz off, Kowalsky.

The Rock says know your role and shut your mouth.

Says UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well" you

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Yet I can show others by the dozens on /. alone like & use my work! You by comparison have ZERO (hahahaha) to show for your wasted life self. 100's of 1,000's do worldwide (many times in publication in the art & science of computing + COMMERCIALLY sold successful code to MY NAME & CREDIT - & you? Hahahaha - KING NOTHING!).

* FACT!

(You're making ma LMAO @ how ridiculous you are WEEZIL - makes sense that you're a "big talking" DO-NOTHING mere PUNY "ne'er-do-well" loser - all you DO is "chatter" & be JEALOUS like the PUNY "Jowie" (hahahaha) you are...)

APK

P.S.=> Face fact, "Jowie" (hohoho) - I RULE YOU & you are POWERLESS to stop me + you PROVE constantly WHY you HIDE from me STALKING me by your WORMISH unidentifiable anonymous posts - you're a ZERO is why (& you know it - everyone reading would - you have ZERO to show for yourself, loser)... apk

Re: Says UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well" you

[Anonymous Coward]

Different AC here. You take credit for other people's work. You don't do your own research and develop your own hosts file. It's all other people's work.

You download their work, concatenate the files, sort the entries, and remove duplicates. Your code is also horribly inefficient. I could do far better at the command line with wget, cat, and sort.

Lincoln? Isn't that THOR SCHMUCK's area??

[Anonymous Coward]

Lincoln? Isn't that THOR SCHMUCK's area?? If you're him, you're nothing but a FAT CHUNK OF GREASY PORK, hahahahahahaha.... fatboy!

* CHUNK OF MOLDY FAT PORK.... hahahahaha!

(Don't like that you little SHORT FAT FUCK? Come make me take it back BLOATBOY!)

APK

P.S.=> I see that CA got SOLD-OFF again (since it's junkware) & your false accusations of my ware being 'malware' got TAKEN DOWN TO ZERO THREAT, loser (why? Well, because you're so STUPID & FAT #1, faking YOU are "computer guru" yet with NO CODE OF YOUR OWN TO SHOW for your WASTED bloatbody fat corpse, lol)... apk

Re: Lincoln? Isn't that THOR SCHMUCK's area??

[Anonymous Coward]

There are over 268,000 people in Lincoln. How the hell should I know what enemies you've made here? I invited you to back up your threats and you didn't do it. You should probably walk away now with your tail between your legs. You showed the world just what a coward you are.

Go get some mental help for your NPD. That would be the only manly thing for you to do now, to admit you have a problem and get help for it.

I state reviews are for a Win64 model stupid

[Anonymous Coward]

I state reviews are for a Win64 model stupid (learn to READ moron) & does ANYONE say anything good about YOUR non-existent work? LOL, no... hahahaha!

* Why? Simple - You're a USELESS chattering little JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" mere "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING ZERO!

(Prove otherwise - oh, but that's RIGHT - I've REPEATEDLY ask you prove me wrong & prove others like + use work you do & YOU CAN'T - RoTfLmAo!).

APK

P.S.=> It took 2++ yrs. for others to give me reviews of my work that are good - do you have ANY? No (lol)... give it time & we'll see (that's how it goes but then, a USELESS WORM zero like you wouldn't KNOW that)... apk

Re: I state reviews are for a Win64 model stupid

[Anonymous Coward]

You just indicted your own work. If it took 2+ years to get seven or eight favorable reviews, it should be a sign to you that your work sucks.

Don't deflect and ask me what I've done. The subject is your second rate work.

LMAO - you wrote wget, cat & sort? No

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject projectionist: 1st, You'd need 15 more commands to do what my program does (showing you don't know OR DO shit) scriptkiddie & nobody NORMAL wants "script kiddie 'scryptz'" vs. GUI (or do you surf here using Lynx? How come Wayland & X exist?? Why does KDE, GNome, & xfce exist too??? Did DOS beat Windows????).

I.E./E.G. - I wrote the equivalent function of roughly 15 *NIX commands in my program MYSELF (unlike YOU, Jowie (hahahaha)).

* CLASSIC PROJECTION: WANNABE weezils like YOU merely USE guys like ME's (coders) WORK loser (projecting what you TRY accuse ME of YET dozens on /. alone LIKE & USE MY WORK praising it - not yours, JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie").

APK

P.S.=> Unbelievable you SET YOURSELF UP for that (you really ARE stupid)... apk

Re: LMAO - you wrote wget, cat & sort? No

[Anonymous Coward]

Some things are better in a GUI. That does not include a program to download, concatenate, and sort text files.

Let me give you the first review of the Linux version of your software:
APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ for Linux sucks donkey balls. It's slow and useless, much like its author.

Hahahaha no point in asking what you do

[Anonymous Coward]

Hahaha no point in asking what you do: I have & you RUN, "Forrest" as you have NOTHING/ZERO anyone says anything GOOD about & I do.

* FACT!

(Fact is what lets FOOLS like YOU destroy yourselves vs. me - that's the PRICE of being JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" YOU, the "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING you are, hahahaha....)

APK

P.S.=> Call my work "2nd rate" but it's BETTER by far vs. NO WORK @ ALL from you (least of all that NOBODY says anything GOOD about from DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" You (waste of life))... apk

Re: Hahahaha no point in asking what you do

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, my work would be incredibly useful to you. I'm a psychiatrist, and you are in need of help with your mental health.

Are they all do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells" like you?

[Anonymous Coward]

Are they all do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells" like you? Apparently so, hahahahahahahaha...

* Come on up here from PODUNK Idaho wally & we'll SEE what's-what FATBOY!

(Disgusting CHUNK of MOLDY greasy PORK you are, lol!).

APK

P.S.=> Come on CHUNK - I hope you're ready to get your pants pulled down after I knock you the FUCK out & assrape you... apk

Re: can I fireup putty and login to an windows ser

[reanjr]

I installed OpenSSH server on Windows over a decade ago. It was almost painless. Would it be nice to have it installed out of the box like OS X and most Linux distros? Sure. But that's hardly a significant difference between platforms.

Prove it + GOOD reviews of it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Let's see PROOF you are indeed a licensed Shrink degreed in the psychiatric sciences (this will be the BEST LAUGH ever, hahahaha).

* Come on BLOWHARD!

APK

P.S.=> You're CLEARLY suffering DELUSIONS of "grandeur" thinking you are a professional degreed licensed psychiatric pro (which I wager you are not BUT I do give you a FAIR CHANCE to prove it loser)... apk

Re: Are they all do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells" like

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm going to dismiss your rape threat as bullshit. We both know you're full of shit.

That said, since you're too cowardly to come to Lincoln, where are you requesting that I meet you?

Perhaps you should post your address and phone number like you demand of everyone you don't like. Don't be even more of a weasel than you already are.

Re: Are they all do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells" like

[Anonymous Coward]

LOL! APK, you just made an ass of yourself.

Run, Forrest, Run! Run from those empty threats you just made! Run!

APK THE CHICKENSHIT!

The LORD of HOSTS is a total chickenshit!

LOLOLOLOL!

I don't pay attention to "your kind" JOWIE

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't pay attention to "your kind" JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" scrypt-kiddie (lmao) - why? My type (actually useful producers) EMPOWER you!

* Additionally - because you ARE proving yourself to be what I state you are & you make it FACT? I often wonder WHY we do that for your DEFICIENT mentally UNDERPOWERED loser kind!

Hahahahahaha.... wannabe.

APK

P.S.=> You're SO stupid you tried this bs only for me to SHOOT YOU DOWN for it (& you are off - way, Way, WAY OFF (like 14-15 *NIX scriptkiddie commands off)) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

Re: I don't pay attention to "your kind" JOWIE

[Anonymous Coward]

You're right, I should add a sleep 6000 command in between the concatenation and sorting to match the performance of your hosts file engine.

Re:Are they all do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells" like y

[Anonymous Coward]

get your pants pulled down after I knock you the FUCK out & assrape you

Come make me take it back BLOATBOY!

Hey homo APK, you keep demanding that people come see you so they can make you take your words back or visit you so you can have butt sex with them so you need to provide your address. If you don't you are a bigger pussy than you claim everyone else is. There are only 2 options here APK, lets see what one you choose? Maybe you should just go back to manning the glory hole at the truck stop just outside of town instead.

Ah, so you WANT it, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I see you ENJOY IT (I'm sure you will, seeing as you STALK me as you do anonymously) & want it hahahahaha (figures - you're a "NOT MAN").

* Aw, poo' lil' JOWIE (Jealous "Lil' Jowie", hahahaha) all "FrUsTrAtEd" (sexually too I see, not just at your IMPOTENCE in life as a DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" you PROVE yourself to be... lol!).

It's no threat Jowie - it's merely giving you what you WANT hahahaha obviously (just as I give folks SOFTWARE they LIKE & USE (you don't - you're TOO f'ing stupid)).

APK

P.S.=> Hohohohohoho "Lil' Jowie"... apk

Re: Ah, so you WANT it, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I called your bluff and now you're being a coward. You have no intention of backing up any of your threats, and this exchange proves it.

Don't threaten people with violence. Don't demand they post their real name, address, and phone number. You make lots of threats, but you're far too cowardly to actually do anything.

You post about "talkers" and "doers". You're a "talker" and don't back up any of your words. This exchange proves it.

Your bluff got called for everyone to see. I won't hesitate to link back to this if I see you posting threats again.

Go get yourself the mental help you clearly need.

Hey - I'm of SERVICE to others (you're not)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey - I'm of SERVICE to others (you're not) e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & I know what "your kind" wants, lol.... ugh (disgusting).

* You want it up the ass from me? I don't need to assrape you - you do THAT to yourself EVERY SINGLE TIME you STALK me by such "BRAVE ANONYMOUS STALKER POSTS" of yours... hehehehehe!

APK

P.S.=> Stock up on preparation H Jealous "Lil' Jowie" - you NEED it, hahahaha.... apk

You want it up the ass w/ proof, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: I let you increase your hemmorhoids BLASTING you up the ass here & you're HIDING behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie", not I...

* After all - you're STALKING me unidentifiably PROVING you FEAR me....

(No questions asked - fact).

APK

P.S.=> What's the matter "JOWIE" (hahahahahaha I love calling you that - it gets you ALL sorts of "hot")? A wee bit "disturbed" you're showing ANYONE READING what you are?? Yes, lol.... apk

Re: You want it up the ass w/ proof, lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey, APK, I just read this thread. My name's Bryce. I hope you remember me. A couple of weeks ago, I told you how much your posts turned me on, but you said you weren't into gay relationships. Now, I see you're talking about blasting other guys up the ass, so it seems you've reconsidered. I'm still incredibly turned on by your posts and would love for you to be my boyfriend. I hope you'll go on a date with me. I'll gladly post my name, address, and phone number, just to go on a date with a real man like you. Hopefully you wouldn't mind getting a room together and blasting me up the ass a few times.

Damn I hope you say yes. I'd love to be in a relationship with you! Maybe those other ACs aren't your type, but I know we'd make a great couple!

Bryce

Now all you have to do is prove it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Now all you have to do is prove it. Prove your lies (delusions). Go on. Prove it. I get the last LAUGH @ you as always (you'll run - you always do).

APK

P.S.=> Hahahahahaha GOT YA again as always JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"... apk

Re: Now all you have to do is prove it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I still don't need your validation. My wealth is enough validation from me. You don't count.

No threat - I give you what YOU want!

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: You want it up the ass? I deliver. You get it up the ass from me CONSTANTLY & come back for MORE stalking me by unidentifiable ac posts!

* LOL, fact... Truth gettin' to ya, "Lil' JOWIE"? Hohohohoho!

APK

P.S.=> You gettin' a bit "hot" there "JOWIE" (hahahahaha, JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" the DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" you are)... apk

Re:No threat - I give you what YOU want!

[Anonymous Coward]

Got it APK, you are a bigger chickenshit pussy than you claim everyone else is since you demand people meet you but then don't give them your address. I guess you are just a keyboard warrior who can barely manage to cobble together a program to download, concatenate, and sort text files in 12,000+ lines of code.

Can't backup your lies, JOWIE? hahahaha

[Anonymous Coward]

JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" why can't you backup your bs here with proof https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

* DELUSIONS like yours (lies) = HARD to backup, aren't they "Lil' Jowie" (lol, I love calling you that - it FITS you).

APK

P.S.=> It is ALWAYS a pleasure & great way for ME to start my day seeing you RUN "Forrest" (Run, Forrest - RUN!!!) OR rather (hahahaha) "Jowie".... apk

Re: Can't backup your lies, JOWIE? hahahaha

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't need your validation, fucktard. Drinking wine with friends on a yacht in Monaco is more than enough validation for me. I'm far more successful than you ever will be. I'm half your age and have made more money this year than you will in your entire life. I'm looking forward to watching you chase your tail for the next two weeks and demand that every AC replying to you prove they have a net worth over $50 million. You did that last time I called you a dumbass.

"Sure Jowie, sure..." (lol, not)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie": PROVE your words here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & you can't... hahahahahaha!

* CLASSIC & PRICELESS!

(The only WINE you're DRINKING is STRAIGHT from MY TAP - Golden WINE from MY ROD that you enjoy drinking in EVERY DROP hahahaha... run "Forrest" - RUN!).

APK

P.S.=> You LIKE the tasty flavor (hahahahaha) ALL NATURAL ingredients, bio-filtered, for YOUR pleasure (as you have to EAT YOUR WORDS it will help WASH THEM DOWN w/ the BITTER TASTE of SELF-DEFEAT you always experience vs. me when YOU ARE ASKED TO PROVE YOURSELF & you can't (hahahahaha))... apk

Did you write sleep too? LOL... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Did you write sleep too? No. Jowie go away! You're a useless DO-NOTHING zero "ne'er-do-well". I'm NOT https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* ... & you truly are (scryptkiddie, lmao).

APK

P.S.=> Small wonder you HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts STALKING me - you have ZERO to show for yourself done BY yourself (lol, fact)... apk

Cat got your TONGUE, "Lil' Jowie"?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: All I ask is you PROVE your "phantasy" MILLIONAIRE status & you RAN (lol) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* You are the AYATOLLAH of "URAN" hahahahaha - Jealous "Lil' Jowie".

APK

P.S.=> NOBODY & I mean nobody made a BIGGER ASS of themselves than YOU did when I confront you there to PROVE you're a "MILLIONAIRE" on a Yacht in Monaco (sure you are (not))... apk

Re: Cat got your TONGUE, "Lil' Jowie"?

[Anonymous Coward]

I didn't post that. I did, however, repost the "I am APK the LORD of HOSTS" comment in the most recent story. Quick! Go whine about impersonation!

Your themesong "JOWIE" (lmao)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Your themesong "JOWIE" (lmao) RUN, JOWIE, RUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?... hahahahaha!

* Oh, RoTfLmAo @ U...

APK

P.S.=> But hey - @ least you've got MUSIC to go w/ your utter bullshit, lol... apk

Sure you didn't "JOWIE" Hahahaha... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You've NOW got a themesong to go w/ your bullshit RUN, JOWIE, RUN (hahahahaha) https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

* RoTfLmAo...

(See "internet MILLIONAIRE" (lol, not) JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" RUN!!!)

APK

P.S.=> Tell us MORE of your MILLION Jowie (millions of LIES & DELUSIONS here you spout https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... )... apk

Awwwww, how adorable!

[Anonymous Coward]

maximize actually maximizes... 16 million colors... VT escape sequences

Quick! Quick! Get the camera!

Baby is taking its first steps!

Tell us of your MILLIONS (lol, of lies)

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject, my question to you here (vs. your parent post full of bullshit - RoTfLmAo) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" please - I mean, LMAO @ that line of utter bs from you I always catch you in... lol!

APK

P.S.=> You're the BIGGEST liar & severely MENTALLY disturbed STALKING me (big brave guy you are projecting YOU are the 'keyboard warrior' & "millionaire" hahahaha (not))... apk

Tell us of your MILLION$ (of lies)

[Anonymous Coward]

Tell us of your MILLION$ (of lies) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... w/ intellectual honesty, ok?

* ... After all, you ADMIT you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (what you're doing now) + also IMPERSONATING ME admittedly on your part https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

APK

P.S.=> Pity? I pity you YOUR "millions" you can't prove you have YET say you do, lol... apk

As Usual, Missing The Point

[Anonymous Coward]

Another cranky greybeard, getting angry at the children on his lawn.

Emojis, ASCII art (it's ASCII by the way, not ascii, a real greybeard would know that), all that is secondary and beside the point.

We'd just like to type accented characters, like correctly spelled place names, and not have /. screw them up. Some systems (I believe they might be smartphones) automatically use curly quotes. /. helpfully turns them into unreadable %20g%20i%20b%20b%20e%20r%20i%20s%20h%20.

It's the internet, there are hundreds (or thousands) of languages and cultures online. The tech exists to support that and really, it's not rocket science anymore. Though maybe you think that an 80x25, 3270 or VT terminal is good enough for anyone? Green screens only, no color support for you, no sir! Are you typing on one now? I think there is a non-zero chance that you are!

Break the monopoly on gaming, M$.

[Anonymous Coward]

Break the monopoly on gaming, M$.

Release DirectX for the world as FOSS. fund and promote OpenGL.

Anything less is just a camel nose under the tent of *nix as a way to gain power and EEE.

(((WOW! How many M$ stories can we push on the FP every day? Welcome to the M$ blog.)))

Holy shit.. DO NOT WANT.

[Anonymous Coward]

Emojii is totally unnecessary, at best fucking stupid, and a long term cluster fuck.

What the fuck?