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Windows 10 Continues To Close in On Windows 7 (betanews.com)
An anonymous reader writes: NetMarketShare reports on the state of the desktop operating system market on the first day of each month. [...] In July, [the market share of] Windows 10 went from 35.71 percent to 36.58 percent, an increase of 0.87 percentage points. That's down from the 0.97 percentage points it grew in June, but shows that the OS is still packing on share at a steady rate. In July, Windows 7 lost 0.51 percentage points and now sits on 41.23 percent, just 4.65 percentage points ahead of the newer OS.
Spyware continues to be forced on users ... news at 11.
An increase of 0.87% with a error range of +- 20%. I love statistics.
And Windows 10 continues to be the only Windows OS being offered by OEMs and Microsoft itself. With older computers dying or being utilized, you have to wonder which OS is going to become more widespread. Except you don't.
Oh, and Windows 7 will cease to be supported in 2020 while Windows 8 expiry date is set to 2023.
i am deploying 500 new win7 desktops
It's not like people are "adopting" anything. If you buy a new PC it's going to come pre-installed with Windows 10, unless it's a MAC. A better indicator would be how many people are buying a Windows 10 disc and voluntarily replacing their current OS with it. I suspect that number is very very low.
Being that PC's are being sold at a higher rate for the first time in a while, We can expect to see Windows 10 market share to go up.
As much as we want to Hate on Windows 10... Microsoft Windows Sales have been tied to General PC Sales. The length of Windows 7 in the market is mostly due to the fact that Windows 7 PC's have been the primary computers for people for many years, and now these systems are start to show their age and become out of date. Back before Windows 7 the Average Live Span for a PC was 4-6 years now it is 6-10 years. Thanks mostly in part to Mobile devices that forced OS makers and software designers to focus more on lower end systems. So That 2008 Windows 7 PC, for most people would be finally really showing its age. 4Gigs of Ram is getting tight, and that Duel Core is quite quaint. So people get a new computer and they Get Windows 10 on it.
Previous to Windows 7 That 2002 PC in 2008 would be really showing its age. and that 1998 vs 2002 PC would show age too.
The Slow increase of Windows 10, is just because PC Sales have been slow too.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
This is as expected. Microsoft per their marketing plan will force as many as they can on to Windows 10. Up to this point I have resisted and still run Windows 7 Pro on my Windows workstations. Not sure I will ever go for Windows 10. Or just phase Windows workstations out and stick to my Linux and Mac workstations. I stopped doing Windows development work over 10 years ago anyway. And just keep 1 Windows 7 Pro workstation at my office and one in my home office now.
;)
One thing I do know "I will never use a DaaS workstation for any of my development work or to run my business". Heck, I don't even use any cloud based apps for any real work.
Just my 2 cents
Businesses are finally comfortable with upgrading.
If you look at TFA at Betanews, the image they used is pretty creepy if you think about it...
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
I wish I had bought a bunch of their stock at $ 35.00. They have managed to keep things going nicely.
;)
Just my 2 cents
... or whatever the next version number is going to be once they abandon the idea of sticking with 10.
I just had server 2012 forced on me (again) at work. I wanted to shove hot pokers into my eyes to relieve the pain of the default theme that we get with that terrible excuse for an operating system. Then I changed that and the mouse cursor no longer worked correctly (switching to being the vertical cursor that we usually see in a word processor, all the time). Why on earth is this acceptable? The colors are hideous and the sharp edges make it look like it belongs in Windows 2.0, for display on an EGA monitor. You don't have to remind me so blatantly that I am being forced to use a shitty operating system; please get the hell out of my way and let me do my job instead.
It does accomplish one thing, though. It makes the Fisher-Price color scheme that was default in XP seem modern and reasonable by comparison. Good job there, I guess.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Why does the report say Windows 8.1 marketshare is increasing slightly? How the hell is buying new computers with Win 8?
But as for Win 10, of course it can't go any direction but up. When your hardware physically dies and you have to replace the PC with a new one, they only come with the latest OS version.
Ideally, my home PC will never die, and I will not be forced to move to Win 10 until 2020.
I donâ(TM)t mind Windows 10 the whole spyware thing is over done. Everything spies on you to some extent get over it. My complaints have been more with updates causing issues then anything else. Even then I have only had some minor annoyances that I worked around. I wouldnâ(TM)t go back to Windows 7 for anything.
I even still dual boot XP. Microsoft's "support" for 7 is so pathetic that it dosen't matter when it is "officially unsupported".
Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 hard, very hard indeed as the only option for 3 years now. And even with users having no choice, it just now crossed 36 percent adoption. Meanwhile the 9 years old and deprecated (by MS) Windows 7 still maintains a healthy 42 percent. Pretty much says everything there is to say about Windows 10.
My interpretation is: Windows 10 is taking an incredibly long time to ramp up in spite of being rammed down everybody's throats as hard as Microsoft can do it by means fair or foul. I conclude that Windows 10 must really suck, that users don't want it, and that they will accept it only by force. I look forward to a new wave of refugees arriving on the Linux beach.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
M$ really screwed the pooch with Windows 10 and a 41% share of Windows 7 proves this.
I still use 7 because of 10's spyware.
Install Windows 7, perform all updates, run Tronscript to remove telemetry introduced by M$ updates. Life is good.
I have Linux installed on a second partition that I can boot to as well. I have been learning Linux to get ready to use it as my daily driver when Windows 7 is no longer viable. The only thing I can't do in Linux that I can in Windows is a majority of the gaming, but as I get older that is becoming less of a concern for me. Configuring Linux is quite complex as well, but I'm getting the hang of it.
Yep add the .01 to win 7's score . cuz im downgrading a win 10 machine as i speak
whish it was easier these days, but microsoft is doing their best to make it difficult to keep windows 7 going.
but to hell with them, hopefully win10 will continue to disappoint their marketing team and maybe they will get it through their thick heads that there is a sizeable user base out there that wants just a reliable non tethered desktop to work and play on, with no corporate BS tied into it .
And that third only runs Windows 10 because it's a Surface Pro and doesn't support 7.
I have no intention of upgrading the other systems and normally I've almost always upgraded to the next version of Windows within a year or two of release from as far back as Windows 95! (skipping only Vista) That stopped with Windows 8 which I thought would be another skip one like Vista - but with all the spyware/auto-updating and just downright oddness of Windows 10 where I'm a spectator to my own computer -Nah, I'll stick on Windows 7 until I absolutely have to and maybe not even then.
Microsoft doesn't give you a choice to go back to Windows 7. It's Windows 10, or fark you.
It's STILL behind after 10++ yrs. of NEW PC sales & STILL HASN'T TAKEN 1st PLACE? Why?? Please. It blows & sends telemetry NOBODY knows the content of (thus anyone w/ any SENSE of either how things work security-wise OR even privacy won't want it)...
* My Win7 64-bit install media FINALLY "bit it" after those 10++ yrs. & I wouldn't go Win10 & instead I went to KUbuntu 18.04 & REALLY like it!
(... & I'm the guy (practically poster child for Windows fanboy on /. in me) who care here in 2005 to 2018 giving *NIX users guff for bs they spouted @ times like "we get 'no viruses'" which is bs - less users means less likelyhood of hacker/cracker types coming after you - but like MacOS X/Apple said "We get NO viruses" well, they "AMENDED THAT" saying "no PC viruses" (of course not, diff. platform) AFTER they gained popularity THEY WERE ATTACKED MORE! Pickpockets don't operate on "crowds of 1" - not enough ROI - they go to where FOLKS ARE (bus stations, crowded city streets, etc.)).
I tried Linux in 1994 (Slackware 1.02) - weak on hardware AND software bigtime - wasn't ready.
Later, I tried RedHat in 1999 - better on hardware but still weak (software too).
In 2010 while I was in Europe - I was like "Hey, NOW this is getting better" but a bum update blew my install & I was like "not ready yet but it will be soon" (as I told MS mgt. "Foredecker" here on /. that it WOULD catch up to MS Windows)
NOW, it's ready & I love FreePascal 3.04 & Lazarus 1.8.2 IDE for it for dev tools that let me CREATE tools I use (& so do /.ers that use + like my work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ) on yet another platform from THE SAME CODEBASE I used in Delphi no less on Windows, fast!
APK
P.S.=> I can tell KUbuntu & even FireFox on it to NOT send things, opting out of it - AFAIK, you can't on Win10 (you COULD however strip it out in Win7 @ least)... apk
Steam Hardware & Software Survey:
Windows 10 64 bit
Windows 7 64 bit
Windows 8.1 64 bit
Windows 7
all other version of Windows are <1% (8 64-bit, 10 32-bit, 8.1 32-bit, XP)
all versions of Linux combined are <1%
all versions of MacOS X combined is 2.93%
Conclusion: Windows 10 has been a big deal for quite some time, at least in gaming.
This is all unfortunate news for me because long ago (~5 years) I had decided that Win7 is the last version I will use in my home. So convinced of this I bought a 5-pack of builder licenses to cover any future systems I build. It seemed reasonable because for creative work Linux happens to meet my needs. For gaming I had high hopes that Steam OS or Android TV or something would have taken hold. I'm not really a consoles guy, so I may have to adapt to running Spyware-from-Redmond, or limit myself to 10 year old games.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Be a shame if something upgraded it . . .
"I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
The new 're-install over the top of yourself' patching system is terrible. If it fails it can render a machine unable to boot and despite (presumably... .. .. .?) their best efforts, several settings you've configured WILL be reset to default.
I am a silent PC user, when sound comes out, it's because I want it to. Why do notification audio keep getting turned on?
There's a heap of odd little things which re-enable themselves when these updates occur, worst thing is you had to google to find out how to disable them months ago and not since, so you've forgotten.
What do you think of Autopatcher?
Some people will say the parent comment is excessively positive about Microsoft.
It's STILL behind after 10++ yrs. of NEW PC sales & STILL HASN'T TAKEN 1st PLACE? Why?? Please. It blows & sends telemetry NOBODY knows the content of (thus anyone w/ any SENSE of either how things work security-wise OR even privacy won't want it)...
* My Win7 64-bit install media FINALLY "bit it" after those 10++ yrs. & I wouldn't go Win10 & instead I went to KUbuntu 18.04 & REALLY like it!
(... & I'm the guy (practically poster child for Windows fanboy on /. in me) who care here in 2005 to 2018 giving *NIX users guff for bs they spouted @ times like "we get 'no viruses'" which is bs - less users means less likelyhood of hacker/cracker types coming after you - but like MacOS X/Apple said "We get NO viruses" well, they "AMENDED THAT" saying "no PC viruses" (of course not, diff. platform) AFTER they gained popularity THEY WERE ATTACKED MORE! Pickpockets don't operate on "crowds of 1" - not enough ROI - they go to where FOLKS ARE (bus stations, crowded city streets, etc.)).
I tried Linux in 1994 (Slackware 1.02) - weak on hardware AND software bigtime - wasn't ready.
Later, I tried RedHat in 1999 - better on hardware but still weak (software too).
In 2010 while I was in Europe I used KUbuntu 10.10 - I was like "Hey, NOW this is getting better" but a bum update blew my install & I was like "not ready yet but it will be soon" (as I told MS mgt. "Foredecker" here on /. that it WOULD catch up to MS Windows)
NOW, it's ready & I love FreePascal 3.04 & Lazarus 1.8.2 IDE for it for dev tools that let me CREATE tools I use (& so do /.ers that use + like my work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ) on yet another platform from THE SAME CODEBASE I used in Delphi no less on Windows, fast!
APK
P.S.=> I can tell KUbuntu & even FireFox on it to NOT send things, opting out of it - AFAIK, you can't on Win10 (you COULD however strip it out in Win7 @ least)... apk
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Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
DELL provided me a PC without USB drivers for Windows7, that was terrible, I have to use a super fast machine with an always ever slow OS.
See subject: It reinforces that the only REAL advantage MS has IS those NEW pc sales forcing a lead vs. competition (vs. FREE Linux has going for it (especially on smartphones & routers etc. presenting a cost-savings over "pay for"/licensed OS)) - but this time?
Windows 10 was also FREELY GIVEN AWAY TOO (forced on users is more like it as well) & STILL can't take the lead!
Yes, you have a valid enough point, one I brought up in fact, but for a DECADE++?
I say that since I was a HUGE fan + user of MS' OS since 1991 & they NEVER ever took that long for an older version of their Operating Systems to usurp the lead over the last one.
Never. Not once that I recall.
PEOPLE WOULD EVEN GO OUT & BUY A NEW VERSION (usually costing between $50-$100) - not this round.
Not even given away (again, even FORCED on users).
APK
P.S.=> Why? Imo, MS did a few things badly - changing the interface/shell users got used to over decades being one (bootup screen weirdness & then the STUPID ribbons over menus folks used for decades in it & Office Software (VERY DUMB) - might as well take the steering wheel out of your care & replace it with crane controls) & TELEMETRY spying (which they don't FESS UP on what they take from YOUR systems in TOTAL summation - this is REALLY bad)... apk
KDE is stable - no problems here for me on KUbuntu 18.04 thusfar. I prefer it to Gnome because it IS very "Windows Shell/Desktop" like. I've never tried xfce though (heard it's lighter/faster to a small extent) OR other desktops I've seen that I didn't even KNOW existed (took a peek @ DistroWatch recently & was amazed actually @ how many OTHER choices there are over the "big 2" as I call KDE & GNome).
* I didn't mind KDE in KUbuntu 10.10 circa 2010 though - seemed stable enough @ the time (over a summer I tried it vs. Windows) though.
APK
P.S.=> Anyhow - LOL, "nerds" part you used is funny - I don't REALLY consider myself a "nerd" & I like KDE "Plasma" - it's REALLY "pretty" & well-organized once you get used to the diff. between it & Windows desktop shell (but then again, I probably am sort of a "nerd" to most people (there WAS a time I definitely wasn't pre-1990 though - what happened? LOL - life & career 1994-2007 before I retired did (software engineer/programmer-analyst) - forced it really to make a living/to survive)... apk
No way will I get rid of Windows 7. It has one thing Windows 10 dumped - Windows Media Center! So I'll have to be 6 feet down in the ground before I stop using it.
Obviously U FEAR me hiding by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous you HARASS me w/ FAILING hosts vs. whitelist https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
You STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous & LOSE vs. me EVERYTIME (see link above).
What GIVES AWAY you know you lost? 2 things:
HIDING my parent post (came RIGHT after link above & you "downmod hid it" - but unlike MOST ac's I have NO POST LIMIT & RUN YOU DRY of your limited # of "downmodpoints" you ABUSE & I repost).
You give it away MORE you got NUKED by me as you do FLURRIES of posts to try "forums slide" BURY you got your ass kicked - you must be sadomasochists! APK
P.S.=> & MULTIPLE personalities? YOU losers do SOCKPUPPETS galore OR FAKE NAMES for your FAKE LIES of WASTED lives - proof?? Look @ Zontar's "TrollingForHostsFiles" https://slashdot.org/comments.... to HARASS & STALK me (I dusted him in BOTH guises FAKE NAME & sockpuppet)... apk
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See subject: A pussy that hides from me STALKING me constantly by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts proving you FEAR me - why? I've CRUSHED YOU SO MANY TIMES HERE PUBLICLY BEFORE under your doubtless MANY "fake name" (for your FAKE LIE wasted do-nothing LIFE) you have to hide from me - & you KNOW it.
* FUNNY that REGISTERED /.ers DISAGREE w/ you Mr. pusscake LOSER you are https://it.slashdot.org/commen...
(Anyone say anything GOOD about what YOU do? Oh, but, that's right - you DON'T 'do' anything @ all! Why? - You're a lazy uneducated unskilled deficient sub-standard PARODY of a man - a "not man" mere "ne'er-do-well" JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lmao) & nothing more...))
APK
P.S.=> Thanks for proving all you have is your "virus of the spirit" ENVY of me & JEALOUSY + bitch games you play proving it for all to see (hence WHY you hide from me like the PUNY bitch you are)... apk
And one day Windows 10 will just stop because Microsoft says so. Then you'll be running Windows 11 or Windows 12, and then you'll be forced into Microsoft's Desktop-as-a-Service model where your credit card number is your windows license key. And Windows 7 will keep right on trucking. Besides, Windows 10 is a raging piece of crap as productivity tools go. "Targeted Advertising Everywhere" isn't a smart move.
I am APK the great "LORD of HOSTS", a.k.a. AlecStaar or Alexander Peter Kowalski.
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I am the godlike creator of various GUI front-ends for other people's configuration files.
Watch as I claim I win every argument when in reality I know I lost but that won't stop me from proclaiming my victory.
When presented with facts I rebut them with wild speculations, false support, and out of context quotes
All of my accomplishments revolve around me being proven to be an annoying spamming asshole
See me be proud of my inability to be a functional adult
Bask in my debilitating mental illness
Hear me tell stories about me living large drinking miller lite in my ramshackle duplex with a roommate at age 54.
Watch me spew some word salad because I can't string 2 words together in a coherent manner.
I just don't understand why every site I post on everyone makes fun of me, it can't be because I am a shit stick but instead because they are all Ne'er-do-well SOYboy Jealous JOWIEs.
Witness my descent into madness
APK
If Windows 10 were a Superior Product to Windows 7.
All I've found is a lack of compatibility with older non-Microsoft software. A horrid interface designed more for grandma's tablet than a real working PC. And a new "Edgey" browser that comes straight out of 1996. Seriously, we found an old video file that NOTHING would play was compatible with MS Edge...then we found it wasn't an H.264 codec, but an H.262 codec. Modern browsers wouldn't play it. Of course, Edge is NOT compatible with more modern codecs....so it's kinda a wash.
Who in their right mind would ever want to install software that intrusive and obnoxious?!
No one. Yet most are forced to.
Win10 prevents you from accessing significant, important aspects of YOUR PC; and, mines data from you!
Win7 is still considered a far more desirable platform, irregardless of what is actually installed.
Your are definitely better off with Linux.
Yet, MS has an eye on that, too!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
Does anyone remember when the latest operating system would have a larger install base than the previous operating system within weeks of the newer operating system being released?
Yeah. This is what it looks like when you have a captive audience.