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Anti-Tesla Pickup Truck Drivers Take Over a Supercharger Station -- Again (electrek.co)
An anonymous reader quotes Electrek:
In what is quickly becoming a problem for some Tesla drivers, pickup truck drivers have again taken over a Supercharger station and yelled profanities in what appears to be an act of protest against Tesla. Earlier this month, we reported on a strange situation at Tesla's Hickory Supercharger in North Carolina where three large pickup trucks blocked access to the station and reportedly chanted "F*** Tesla"....
Now it looks like it's becoming a trend since another Reddit user spotted pickup truck drivers taking over another Tesla Supercharger. They reportedly were also yelling profanities to Tesla owners coming to charge at the Supercharger station.
Electrek also cites one Tesla owner's reports of being "coal rolled" -- intentionally targetted with extra black exhaust fumes from specially-modified engines.
Now it looks like it's becoming a trend since another Reddit user spotted pickup truck drivers taking over another Tesla Supercharger. They reportedly were also yelling profanities to Tesla owners coming to charge at the Supercharger station.
Electrek also cites one Tesla owner's reports of being "coal rolled" -- intentionally targetted with extra black exhaust fumes from specially-modified engines.
No better way to convince people they're wrong/dumb than being an asshole to them. These truckers should run for office
Tesla owners are scared of guns. They would cry if they saw one.
If it isn't a tow away zone then somebody screwed up.
We will replace you. And all your coal rolling desperation does is tell us you know it too.
Take our your cell phone, take pictures of the trucks (and license plates if you can). Then call the police and report that trucks are blocking a public entrance. When the cops finally show up, show them the pictures and file a report.
How hard is that?
Or I guess you could just pull out your guns and have a showdown. Seriously are people this stupid?
Redneck trump supporters being total dickheads. Not surprised by this at all.
so i guess itâ(TM)s okay for tesla drivers to block entrances to gas stations and yell obscenities at all the drivers? makes sense.
You will never own a Tesla, you have never even been in the same room as a gun, and you would never confront anyone over the age of ten years. These facts are immediately obvious to every single person who reads your post.
They’re wrong.
FTFY
Those that publicly claim to be a gun owner are seldom capable of effectively using a firearm. Beware of the person with a single firearm ... and keeps it a secret.
First they ignore Tesla
Then they laugh at Tesla
Then they fight Tesla <--
Then Tesla wins
I suspect that it's a ploy to dissuade buying electric by presenting a "Electric car owners will be bullied" sentiment. I have no doubt it's orchestrated as I am sure the drivers or the utes have better things to do really.
The inevitable EV revolution is being attacked on many fronts.
What exactly do the truck drivers think they’re accomplishing? And what do they think they’re protesting?
I realize these guys are likely not the brightest bulbs in the box... but seriously, they must have at least a vaguely-defined reason they are choosing to do this.
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I have a Tesla and own several guns. If this was happening to me, I would construe it as a threat upon my being and I wouldn't hesitate to put the assailant(s) to death.
This is why a mental health assessment should be required for both gun ownership and a drivers license. You should have neither.
your airsoft gun will just make them angry, basement dweller. besides, you'll get a sunburn.
We have quite a few of those recharging station at the malls and railroad stations around here, 16 within 2 miles of me..... never seen them blocked by anything or anyone, ever.
Are you really that fragile.
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Nice, have these idiots vehicles legally towed and let them enjoy their ridiculous impound fees that most communities have. Maybe they'll direct their far right rage towards the bullshit government attitude towards the privatization of impound lots. Your car was towed on a Friday? Good luck low income person being able to afford getting your car out of impound on Monday.
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Tesla owners are scared of guns. They would cry if they saw one.
They seem pretty fond of flamethrowers though.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
but they're probably angry at technocrat elites. If they're blue collar types odds are good they listen to right wing media which is often on the warpath against silicon valley and the like. Plus if they're blue collar then odds are good they're not doing so hot economically since blue collar types got hammered in the last recession and never really recovered.
Still, I could be totally wrong. Like the author if TFA I'd love to just ask them why.
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Then I have good news for you: He has neither.
I know a guy with two firearm. His name is Johnny Storm.
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Big truck drivers must not have much to do. I wonder how long they waited for somebody to actually wanna use those chargers? Must have been a sale on Copenhagen and Budwieser.
In TFA, Tesla driver reports “took them 10 minutes or so and one of them did that ‘I’m going to hit you’ maneuver after circling the parking lot.”
WTF is a ‘I’m going to hit you’ maneuver?
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
And who do we have to thank for that, other than Elon Musk?
Because the last time the established car companies made electric cars, it did not end well.
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Straight to nazi, huh? It's no wonder we can't have a discourse anymore...civil or otherwise. Yes, I'm saying you're part of the problem
Tesla: Why are you blocking the entrance?
Redneck: Go home, fag!
Tesla: OK, I'm gay. But why?
Redneck: Fuck you!
Tesla: (drops his pants)
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oh boy, John Wick lives, and threatens geeks on slashdot. I'm shaking in my boots, er slippers, right now.
I fairly clearly said diesel FIRES are harder to start. "Die in a diesel fire, they're harder to start." Jesus man, reading isn't a beartrap, stick a toe in and learn how it works. As if I needed to deign to insult diesel mechanics, lol.
The poor filthy SOB's have bigger problems than what I think about their choice of fuels. Besides, if you don't make your own bio-d, you're missing the entire point of that platform.
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Taxes are how evil liberal Muslim gay atheists steal the pretty women from us real Muricans. Fucking bastards with their "good higene" and elitist "literacy".
Trumps gonna build that wall with clean coal and make murica great like back in the fifties!
Shooting someone because they inconvenienced you is pretty much always considered illegal. There is no threat to life, so no reason to shoot. Yes, someone who wants to do what the GP stated he did is either mentally unstable or clearly acting with criminal intent.
Actually I think you dont have a clue how taxes work.
What the grantparent said is true. Both teslas and charging stations are subsidized by taxes.
As of course are a lot of other things, however it does not make it untrue.
Someone is going to die.
Whether it's a pregnant woman being driven to hospital in a Tesla dying of complications, a kid getting hit by something thrown, raised tempers turning ugly, someone failing to stop in time for the parked cars...
And the truckers will deny it has anything to do with them. Legally, they'd probably be right. Blood on innocent hands.
The Tesla drivers will deny any blame, too, if it's a case of raised tempers. Stand your ground is a legal defence.
It wouldn't matter if they had to stack the bodies in a double 40' trailer. Nobody's guilty here, your honor.
Who the hell gives a shit what you think of such and such a political ideology that nobody here can define anyway. Who the hell cares what you think of Tesla or truckers?
Is the absolute certainty of accidental death of someone who has nothimg to do with either side a desired outcome? This isn't whatiffery, this is guaranteed if these incidents keep happening.
At what point is it more important to find and apply a fix than to whine about the bug?
My guess is never. The days when getting things done mattered are long over.
Now get off my lawn!
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
They aren't protesting anything. They are just being jackasses. I think the pickups should be crushed into little cubes. It would not particularly upset me if the owners were inside during the operation.
Interesting. But you don't fit the Tesla owner model. So get rid of one
Hillbillies and yahoos know no better. This just reveals that they have seen the writing in the wall, and that they are shitting in their pants.
In what is quickly becoming a problem for some Tesla drivers
It's happened TWICE - that's the same number of times Hillary lost her bid for President...
Let's not over-react.
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"Its ironic but the religious the ones that did accept facts" - Learn how to form a coherent thought and get back to us. You're not repeating Hannity verbatim and original thoughts only confuse and anger you.
Do they actually think the Tesla owners are going to say, “Gosh fellas, you’re right. I’m going to sell my Tesla today and buy a Ford pickup.”?
I'm a suburbanite and I've been driving a hybrid Camry since 2007 and I like it.
But I don't think that insulting these truck owners (or vice versa) is going to help anybody.
I think that electric vehicles pose a very real threat to the jobs and the future of many rural Americans, who feel that their work depends on trucks, cars, vehicle repair, oil, oil equipment, coal, scrap yards, etc, etc.
That is especially the case today, when Tesla has been publicizing the success of their SELF-DRIVING electric SEMI-trucks. Tesla says that in a convoy, they are more energy efficient than trains. They even have a standing order for HUNDREDS of these new trucks from Walmart, rural America's love/hate store/employer.
For years, the only way that a rural American could escape and see the world was to either drive a truck or work on the railroad.
Its a fundamental part of American culture, and it doesn't escape these people that Tesla's development poses a tangible threat to that way of life.
There are political and economic solutions that could provide jobs AND save the environment, but its not going to happen by spewing all this filth.
Tesla owners have laser pistols.
When you can't find an obvious reason, look for who stands to gain. Traditional auto companies have been fighting a delaying battle against Tesla for years. Tesla is way ahead of them in an area they know they will eventually have to compete in. Plus Tesla is one of the most short-sold companies in history. Doesn't take much to spark a temporary fluctuation in stock prices.
I would be astonished if there weren't some of these motives behind this. Likely a combination - a lot of those who have short positions on Tesla are funded by traditional auto.
This is the same kind of FUD Microsoft tried against Linux with SCO. No different.
No, I think there are plenty of other jobs that rural America can easily adapt to. Obvious ones are solar, wind farming, growing biofuels,
I requires political leaders who can win people over to a new view of the future.
I think trolling "Anonymous Cowards" like you, who stick everyone into a "category", and flippantly pose war as the solution don't help very much.
But we will learn to ignore you.
I don't think that insulting these truck owners (or vice versa) is going to help anybody.
Fuck these fragile snowflakes who are so afraid of change that they'll go park their trucks in front of another guy's filling station. That's small ball. You don't see Tesla owners blockading filling stations.
They don't get to be assholes and expect that anyone will listen to them. The American Yahoo is something to be derided and mocked. I've met them - if you aren't like them, you're their plaything or their enemy. They'll screw you mercilessly if they have an angle, and they'll laugh to their buddies about it later.
For years, the only way that a rural American could escape and see the world was to either drive a truck or work on the railroad. Its a fundamental part of American culture, and it doesn't escape these people that Tesla's development poses a tangible threat to that way of life.
Railways will continue to exist. Trucks will continue to exist. The rednecks will still be able to hoot and holler and do doughnuts in walmart parking lots at midnight. Soon they'll be able to stagger out of their shitty bars and have their trucks drive them home without the usual DUI along the way. You don't need to be doing the driving to see the country.
I think that electric vehicles pose a very real threat to the jobs and the future of many rural Americans, who feel that their work depends on trucks, cars, vehicle repair, oil, oil equipment, coal, scrap yards, etc, etc.
The fact is, moving goods around and monkey-wrenching are not going to be fallback jobs for Joe Schmoe anymore. They only ever paid reasonably well because they're shit jobs that no one with half a brain wants. Those jobs will go away, because it's cheaper and more pleasant to deal with a self-driving vehicle than it is to deal with Joe Schmoe. Time for Joe to do something with his life.
I doubt it, at least until the uber-Troll-in-Chief goes off to prison and we stop ALLOWING the Republican faggots to gaslight the rest of America with their anti-science, anti-education, anti-law, anti-professional regime.
So you're half right, you just don't know how to point out the elephant in the room like it requires to be acknowledged and dealt with.
Amiably agree to just split, no civil war necessary. The middle and the South get their "news" from Fox, Breitbart, and AM pundits; and thus have a completely different view of gov't and reality.
Why keep clashing with them over pollution, healthcare, science, etc.? Just fucking split. Let them have their own reality to themselves.
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and look at the pictures they took of the trucks doing it. Those aren't hillbilly trucks. In the first picture they were late models, MSRPs starting at $27k. The second picture it was 2 SUVs and 1 pickup with a pricey looking lift kit. Second pick somebody had the hood popped and was working on something, so it mighta just been somebody who had a breakdown, first picture looked legit though and it's probably just middle class blue collar guys pissed off at the elites they keep hearing about on Fox News or one of Sinclair media's Fox News wannabes.
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pretty much all of those "foreign cars" are made in america dumbass
Gas? Would you like to rethink your post?
These North Carolina pickup drivers really took the time and effort to block Tesla drivers from charging their cars?
Don't these pickup truck drivers have anything better to do, like impregnating their sisters/daughters/mothers? I mean, it is the South, after all.
I don't see any reason to be so personal or vengeful on the attacks. Tesla runs on electricity, which can be made with many things, including coal. That is not the choice Tesla owners get to make. Tesla owners get to make the choice of not having to decide what form of energy to use, and at over 100 MPGe, they are using a lot less of whatever it is.
If you get in a Tesla, and put your foot on the accelerator, you have to like what happens next, it is pretty awesome. And if you are somehow tied to ICE engines financially, you have to worry about what happens next. There are few and declining reasons to cling to a gasoline car for the vast majority of the population.
Now if it's Tesla in particular they loathe, take the trucks out of the EV charge slots, which is inevitably going to result in a lot of fines and impound fees, and fund an EV car company that makes a cheaper car. I do not think Tesla's place in the automotive universe is certain. They make the best product, but they're up against an industry that knows how to make "just good enough" into a weapon, and they're still at a price point which isn't attainable to the masses.
being subsidized should be familiar to lots of people outside of major urban areas
"Old man yells at systemd"
And now that the rednecsk are being treated as they treat others,suddenly it's mean.... right....
Seems like conservatives don't actually have faith in the free market. If they really believed electric will fail, why intervene?
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How we have been killing the planet and how it triggers more and more disasters that will kill us all off
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If I needed to use the pumps and it was blocked, I would park in front of the truck so it cannot move. can't help it if the batteries died.
Good luck in court with that one you macho douche
drunk rednecks vs. faggots. pistols at dawn!
maryland only has one coal-fired power station.
Actually, Tesla owners have phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range. At least the ones in the early-experience program do.
> think that electric vehicles pose a very real threat to
> the jobs
BFD. To use the buzzword... cloud computing posed a "very real threat" to traditional "rack 'em & stack 'em"-style IT & operations jobs. In fact, it basically killed them; unless you want to be a datacenter tech for Amazon or Google. But who cares? We all just learned our ways around AWS, GCP, and Terraform. Problem solved. Hell... I call it an improvement. I'd not realized, before updating my own skill set, how much Id grown to view mucking about with hardware to be the least-fulfilling and most-annoying part of the job.
It's not, after all, like Teslas never break down or malfunction. The skillset needed when the do is simply different; that's all. It's not like mechanics, and the like, can afford not to keep their skills up already. Working on a modern Mercedes turbo-diesel is a far different deal from keeping a '95 Civic on the road. Moving up to a Tesla is just the next step up or right on the skills tree.
Imagine all the people...
Hit TV show right there.
unfortunately there are far too many irresponsible gun owners out there with shit for brains
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
they are "smug" because they have an EV? that chip on your shoulder must be getting heavy.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
are you mentally old enough to drive?
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
"f it's their tax money being wasted on some asshole Tesla driver." how does that compare to all the tax money being used to prop up a dying industry from the 2 centuries ago?
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Certainly strong enough to cause some serious paint damage on those pickup trucks. That's not a suggestion, by the way, wink wink...
Well, many of the people driving the car would have loved to buy it from General Motors. But GM preferred to have them scrapped at the end of the leasing period.
So this one seems to be a case of politically wanted (by GM itself) failure.
Now we go into round two with much more capable cars by multiple manufacturers. The Chevrolet Bolt and the Hyundai Kona Electric come to mind. And of course, the Tesla Model 3. Not exactly the cheapest cars, but much more serious competition this time than the GM EV.
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Yep, it's one of the referral benefits. You need about a hundred referrals if I'm not mistaken.
Step 6: work out how to simulate an EV for the data connection handshake with charger
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
the mistake you are making is that you are expecting these few childish truckers to be logical or thoughtful, its hard for them when they are so racked with jealousy of someone having a more than them.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
The tax subsidies are actually hurting Tesla right now. They are being phased out (cut in half from january onwards, and going down further later on) while remaining in full effect for many others.
(GM's will be cut in half next quarter, too)
"the definition of "mental health" is inherently political"
I guess we can just make stuff up, and declare it is a fact.
"diagnosis of "mental illness" has been used to suppress political dissent by many different tyrannical regimes."
Some people are dangerous, unstable, and crazy regardless of who is in charge.
Is there anything in the terms when buying a Tesla which allows Tesla to run a license-plate scanner in every Tesla car looking for these people (which may owe them compensation for using the charger station without being a customer)? - I am not suggesting they should do it, but could they?
Much like Islam, redneck is not a race. He's a bigot, and probably a classist, but we've seen no evidence of racism.
home of the stupid bullies.
Trump as a President fits perfectly.
One of the lesser known functions of the highway system is for national defense. It's not just about civilian shit.
Also, those non-urban areas have people that pay their taxes just like the urban areas.
Also, again, those highways to nowhere are what connect your urban areas together so you can move between them, and connect farms to your grocery stores so you have food to eat.
They don't strike me as being a trucking demographic, but more of a mom's basement demographic.
The pickup protesters in the story probably see a row of EV charger parking spaces as being "stolen" from them. It's the same people who resent seeing handicapped spaces. The boutique mall next to me now has a row of ten Tesla spaces, off to one side so there is less conflict with the ICE population.
The right-wing in the USA operates under a lot of myths that they tell themselves about the other side. One thing they believe is that if it ever "came down to it" their side would obviously win in any kind of civil war that they like to fantasize about.
It's because they operate under the belief that they must be an entirely homogenous group so the other side must be as well. Since they perceive the "typical" left-winger as some kind of weak willed pansy they assume they must all be like that.
Which as an aside, a right-wing myth is in play with the gov't shutdown as well, which is the right-wing pushes the narrative that almost all gov't employees are democrats that are leaching off their tax dollars when the reality is the gov't employees are split much in the same proportions as the rest of the country, about 30% republican, about 30% democrat, and the rest independents.
You also see it in rhetoric about who receives gov't social welfare benefits. They love to present the myth of them all being inner city and minority when the reality is that there are more rural whites receiving social welfare benefits than city minorities.
But back to my original point, one myth they love is that republicans surely have all the guns and make up all the military and law enforcement when the reality is that an estimated 45% of guns are in the hands of democrats and that while it's true republicans have a majority in military and law enforcement, it's only a little more than half.
In spite of what the NRA likes to push there are loads of gun owners and enthusiasts who see no issue with some common sense regulation around guns, and that's not just democrat gun owners but republicans as well.
Tesla owners have laser pistols.
No, they have Musk flamethrowers. Just the thing to use on vehicles containing gas tanks.
LOLOL You're a posing liar. Great preening though.
As a gun owner and concealed carry permit holder in Pennsylvania, you are completely wrong. Anything other than an immediate life-or-death situation is not a justification for brandishing weapons or threatening death. If I had a Tesla and someone was yelling at me while blocking the charging station, I'd leave the area and call the police regardless of if I was carrying or not.
Ever eat any food? Where'd it come from dumb fuck? Your entire urban existence is subsidized.
Stop talking, thank you e-tough who we all know is not. We know you.
We know you too, Anonymous Coward. Run along now, and play with the other cowards.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Beware of the person with a single firearm ... and keeps it a secret.
Maybe. If it's a big secret, how much range time is he getting?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
"diagnosis of "mental illness" has been used to suppress political dissent by many different tyrannical regimes."
Some people are dangerous, unstable, and crazy regardless of who is in charge.
You're both right. And sometimes, someone dangerous, unstable, and crazy is in charge...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
if the bros driving those trucks were real men they would have backed into the spaces. What sort of truck driving sissy parks a truck nose in?
They should all be driving Priuses.
"...if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” - Maxine Waters
"at a gasoline station"...hmmm? Maybe it isn't a good idea to incite that kind of activity.
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It won't confuse anyone. An electric truck would have to be that big in order to have enough battery to do a full day's work for a regular truck.
Don't bother. I know his type. They think milk comes out of a milk carton, cereal comes out of a cereal box, and that it's possible to live in 70 degree comfort year round at 45 degrees north with solar panels and AA batteries.
Musk is nothing if not clever and audacious. I'm sure he's designing a whiz-bang death-ray module for the Tesla that will handle these yahoos quite well. Of course, the unintended consequences may get out of hand.
Nearly all solar panel installations that don't have a battery are directly feeding the grid that everyone is pulling from. Do your research next time.
I don't understand why these folks are upset. Tesla's are made in America... so... jobs... and If EV's ever gain significant market share, the price of gas will plummet. They can fuel their trucks at rock bottom prices!
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They aren't protesting anything. They are just being jackasses. I think the pickups should be crushed into little cubes. It would not particularly upset me if the owners were inside during the operation.
Ah, the good old "pressing arrangement"...
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This is utter stupidity. What are they thinking? Are they thinking that pickup trucks are going to become obsolete or somesuch nonsense? LOL, no, pickup trucks will remain a staple of transportation because of their utility. Let's see how upset these pickup truck owners are when Tesla or some company that comes later starts rolling out full-size plug-in electric pickup trucks that have more horsepower than even the largest V8 ICE pickup truck has right now? That they can then have a high-capacity charging post installed at their house and not ever have to go to a gas station again? If they really want the roaring of a big internal-combustion engine to feel manly they can install a sound system to simulate it, I guess, but really, what's the problem? Nobody is going to take their trucks away from them. They can still have rifle racks in the back window and a Confederate flag flying from it all they want, huge offroad tires and jacked up all they want.
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I'm disappointed to see some support expressed here for these drooling morons. This is the right wing base in all its hideous glory. These pickup drivers deserve nothing but our disgust and contempt, and maybe a week in jail with nothing to read but math and science text books.
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I think that electric vehicles pose a very real threat to the jobs and the future of many rural Americans, who feel that their work depends on trucks, cars, vehicle repair, oil, oil equipment, coal, scrap yards, etc, etc.
That's just junk.
Cars have little to do with coal,
That is especially the case today, when Tesla has been publicizing the success of their SELF-DRIVING electric SEMI-trucks.
So? So has Ford. And a bunch of truck companies. Self driving vehicles are coming this is essentially inevitable and has nothing to do with vehicles being electric. All the major manufacturers are exploring the tech. So why target tesla?
They even have a standing order for HUNDREDS of these new trucks from Walmart, rural America's love/hate store/employer.
so why the anger at Tesla not Walmart?
Tesla says that in a convoy, they are more energy efficient than trains.
Smells like BS from Tesla to me.
Its a fundamental part of American culture, and it doesn't escape these people that Tesla's development poses a tangible threat to that way of life.
Rubbish. The inexorable march of technology, combined wit hcapitalism is the threat here and it's coming for good or ill. It's happening with or without Tesla, and I doubt tesla is affecting the overall timescale.
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No information how the situation was resolved.
Call the police, tow the trucks?
As for somebody yelling on your on the road: this is pretty much what road is for: for rage.
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I'm flattered you have such fantasies about me, twink.
Because it's illegal under California Motor Vehicle Code 22511 and 22511.1.
Quick, what is a Y chromosome and what effects does it have on a human which possesses one vs a human that doesn't?
By itself? A Y chromosome has almost no effect on the development of a human fetus. The SRY1 gene which normally resides on it is responsible for penis growth - which occurs even if the SRY1 gene has transposed to the X chromosome. If your trying to argue there are only 2 sexes, you're ignoring that there are at least 6^12 major combinations of sexual genes which result in not 2 sexes, but a multidimensional spectrum with 2 clusters we call 'male' and 'female'.
A person can have a penis, testicles, and a womb (one father of 3 found that out going in to have his "tumor" biopsied). You also see drug interactions that are often associated with 'male' occurring in 'female' patients. "Male" and "female" are convenient categories, but the reality is NOT as binary as many people think.
Teslas need electricity which, in coal country, is generated by coal fired power plants. Gas cars, on the other hand, run on out-of-state oil. In other words, more Teslas mean more coal jobs.
This is, on the other hand, a mildly counter-intuitive argument for why people in coal country who care about the environment should not currently buy Teslas.
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Had Tesla been a company just focused on making a better car, it would have been one thing. Sure, pack in all the tech you want - built in navigation, connection to CarPlay/Android Auto, rearview cameras, steering controls, et al. (OTOH, Tesla is the only car that commercial towing companies refuse to handle, since impossible to access the engine should the battery die. That's the moronic concept about basing all operations on batteries, rather than allowing for mechanically accessing, say, the hood.) But Tesla coming out w/ self driving cars - a solution looking for a problem, since most people enjoy driving their cars - is one more of those 'disruptive forces' that just threatens the livelihood of truckers - one of the biggest employers in the country, while having little to give for it.
Yeah, over time, it's fine to assume that ultimately, self driving cars and trucks and planes and ships will be the norm, and that 50-100 years from now, no one will drive. However, to try and force that change now, which is what Musk, as well as companies like Uber and Lyft would love to do, only has major negative societal implications in terms of accelerating the hollowing out of the US, w/o having anything else to show for it.
Actually, there aren't substantially more larger white people. That's becoming less and less true each day. Non Hispanic whites account for 61%. So not substantially more people as you suggest.
Also where did you find that 13% number for whites. I didn't see that on the citation you listed. Only that 41% of the black population in any given month.
I'm a suburbanite and I've been driving a hybrid Camry since 2007 and I like it.
But I don't think that insulting these truck owners (or vice versa) is going to help anybody.
Screw that. I'm a suburbanite and I drive an F150. These guys are the same jackasses that terrorized all of the other kids in high school. Our society would be better off if we passed laws that made engaging in this kind of behavior punishable by permanently removing them from the gene pool.
"Nah, he's right. Mental illnesses do actually exist, but deciding where to draw boundaries on them depends on the society in which they occur, and is related to the consensus over what's considered acceptable - which is a means to control who is listened to politically."
The fool claimed it was justifiable to murder people who blocked an entrance to telsa charger, because he felt that amounted to a threat to his life.
I don't think where we settle in a nuanced discussion on where to draw the line between bona fide mental illness and the politicization of mental illness is the issue.
A small number of asshats behaving like asshats shouldn't be news. We're making far too big a deal out of this and giving the asshats far too much publicity. I'd put this up there with a situation like a handful of errant teenagers loitering around a gas station making it an unpleasant situation for motorists to gas up. People are, and will continue to be, douche bags. Someone will inevitably not like what you're doing with your life, how you spend your money, what your political affiliations are. Most folks will keep quiet and grumble to themselves, others will feel like they have to do something about it and thus express their douchebaggery in a more direct and confronting way. These idiots will eventually be bored with what they're doing and get on with their lives.
I thought Mr Musk gave them flamethrowers?
I will admit my Father drives a Pickup but, he is a farmer he has his truck for Farm things, Like most farmers he will drive and repair his truck until it needs to be replaced. As such he also can't afford to own a car as well so my parents drive the farm truck into town to get food, banking ext. This may also surprise you but most farmers are very environmentally aware (after all one bad season or storm can make them loose the farm. so they combine trips. It is a forgone conclusion that your average farmer is not parking at a fast charger or "Rolling Coal" they are too busy for that sort of thing. Parking in these lanes is childish, but so is looking down at people who drive a truck out of pure necessity.
We visited Hickory a couple years back when we were searching for decent size towns with lakefront homes to retire to. Hickory used to be the furniture capital of the U.S., and pretty much all of that industry is now overseas, so the town has a lot of good stuff from back when it was still doing well. But, it has a lot of skilled workers w/o decent jobs. The first restaurant we had dinner at, we discussed this with our elderly waitress who told us that if we moved there and were cleaning our own house, or mowing our own lawn, we were doing it wrong because the labor is cheaply available.
So, just my speculation here, but I think what you're seeing is people protesting against what they see as wealthy people with things they can't really afford.
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not a Republican, or a Democrat for that matter. Quite frankly I wish all you extremists, left and right, would take your hate and prejudice and fuck off.
you can be easily killed in moments with simple chinese takeout chopsticks, 1 set, in at least 30 ways off the top of my head.
Go on then. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume these 30 'ways' are all actually variations on stabbing. So what, through the ear, nose, eyes, maybe throat. I don't think a chopstick will go through a rib cage, well maybe if you do it right but probably not consistently. So come on then 20+ more 'ways'? Don't forget the within moments part.
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Given how many charging stations are paid with public tax money - I'm quite all right with tax payers blocking chargers and preventing their tax money from being wasted on some asshole's car.
Don't forget that Teslas are partially paid for with our tax money, and those chargers are also subsidized with our tax money, for a service almost no one can use.
Tesla owners deserve everything they get.
Didn't some car manufacturers get a massive taxpayer bailout not too long ago?
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Part of the bizarreness here is listening to people talk "rural" and pretend it's farms and stuff, when actually "rural" in the US means "Non-urban". You're saying you're a suburbanite? Congrats, you probably live in a similar neighborhood to the pick up drivers under discussion. You really think they live on farms?
Your plumber, your house painter, your AC guy, they're not living on farms, they're living in places like the one you live in. And that goes for the jackasses hogging charger stations too. Yes, those people doing it are jackasses. They don't have economic anxiety, they're doing it to own the libs (which is ironic, I'll get to why in a moment) not to strike a blow for fair wages and more jobs.
The reason these particular jackasses think of themselves as "rural" and (by-and-large conservative, suburban) Tesla owners as "city" (which is ridiculous) is because of the bizarre identity politics being perpetuated by the culture warriors. They think their "lifestyles" are under threat from "liberals", because that's what Fox News tells them, and they think liberals drive Teslas.
Which we don't. 60% of Tesla owners are conservative, which is what you'd expect because they're expensive and their chief salesperson lives in a different world from that of most liberals, constantly belittling walkable communities and advocates for that, and treating poverty and poor working conditions as if they don't exist.
The number of rural Americans is tiny. Most are suburban. A minority is urban. Most suburbs exist because of "White Flight" during the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, which has colored the politics of those areas. Most wouldn't want to admit in a million years that their parents moved to an artificial, poorly thought out, shit hole, because they were frightened of black people, so they cling on to this myth that they live in a "natural", "rural", part of the world that's somehow better than urban living despite being completely unnatural and unusual by historical human standards. And culture warriors like to take advantage of this. And because a handful of every group are assholes, the assholes take it too far, and try to run homeless cyclists off the road (I've seen this), or, less evilly but still obnoxiously, prevent people they think are "bad" by the standards of the culture warriors from being able to do what they want.
The only funny part of this is that they're more likely to end up blocking the Tucker Carlsons of this world than the Keith Olbermanns, so in some ways it's a tremendous self own. And means you're right in an ironic way, because I think most of the problems in the US right now can be traced to people who promote culture wars and who harness racism and other prejudices to pit people against one another, and that fits the Carlsons of this world.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
This is bullshit. _I_ have lived in cities and never said anything of the sort. And most of the people who I have heard call people "racist redneck hicks" actually live... in the suburbs. And they're not saying every non-urban person is a racist redneck hick because that'd mean they're calling themselves that, you stupid twat.
No, I don't. I want to live in a city, but YOU STUPID FUCKS have made living in a city in the US completely impossible. The cities have been intentionally run down, with suburban planning rules enforced in the centers, and their transportation systems and infrastructure underfunded.
Moreover, you're not addressing the point. The cost of living is sky high in the US, and it's because fuckers like you insist that the suburbs need massive subsidies. The result is that taxes are high throughout the US, massive resources are spent providing infrastructure to the suburbs, and most people end up finding the suburbs are the only place they can live thanks to subsidies that make it cheaper than than the cities, and because with infrastructure broken in most cities, they're completely clogged with traffic.
This is completely fucked up, and pretending that it's A-OK because you once heard someone who you think lives in a city, but probably doesn't, call someone else a racist hick shows how out of touch and part of the problem you are.
You are the problem. You are why the cost of living is so high. Fuck you.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
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You deduced all that because I observed that we overspend on rural roads and that cities don't get their transportation needs met, huh?
Want to explain the logic? Oh, you can't? Because you're projecting so far you've disappeared up your asshole? It's kinda weird, I've never seen a city advocate complain about people who live outside of cities, but I'm always coming across suburban idiots, like you, who think they're "rural", despite the fact they've never been within one mile of a cow they weren't passing at 70mph.
I've lived in two countries, in both rural and non-rural areas. Policies that run down cities and force people to live outside of them are fucking stupid. People who demonize those who live in urban areas, such as the original poster, are part of the problem. You're part of the problem. YOU ARE WHY THE COST OF LIVING IS SKY HIGH IN THE UNITED STATES. Go fuck yourself you stupid scumbag.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Seriously, what a bunch of losers.
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You appear not to understand White Trash. (I'm white and have no problem with that frequently accurate term.) They are primitive vicious human garbage on a good day. The term isn't an accident.
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The only way to reduce crime and restore human honor is stop fearing death.
Stop treating your life as your highest comodity. You will lose. 100% of you
What matters is _how_ you lived. Never give up a single penny for the fear of your life, the life of your mother or your child. Never give up to a terrorist that tells you "plata o plomo".
Eat the plomo, die with honor. Let him take the plata at the price of your life. That will mean that much more law enforcement will go after him and overall there will be much fewer apes trying to rob you.
There are people around the world that live like that.
You do not have to live like sheep.
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