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US Users Are Leaving Facebook by the Millions, Research Says (marketplace.org)

An anonymous reader shares a report: All the bad press about Facebook might be catching up to the company. New numbers from Edison Research show an an estimated 15 million fewer users in the United States compared to 2017. The biggest drop is in the very desirable 12- to 34-year-old group. Marketplace Tech got a first look at Edison's latest social media research. It revealed almost 80 percent of people in the U.S. are posting, tweeting or snapping, but fewer are going to Facebook.

174 comments

  1. Nuke it from orbit. by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the only way to be sure.

    Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter.. All of it.

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    1. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter.. All of it.

      You forgot Slashdot.

    2. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's just take the whole internet offline, just to be certain.

    3. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that you were joking, but this needs to happen for real! Seriously. Deadly Seriously!!

    4. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, there could still be remnants on people's computers. Better to destroy all electronics. You can never be too certain about these things.

    5. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DO ET!

    6. Re: Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too late, Facebook Skynet (TM) is already online. Expect a visit from a robot that looks suspiciously like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Muhahahaha

    7. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bit alien, don't you think?

    8. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When everything is underwater electronics won't work anymore anyway, so you won't have to wait that long. Better learn to swim.

    9. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot DoubleClick ... err I mean Google.

    10. Re: Nuke it from orbit. by dougdonovan · · Score: 0

      and the stock markets go right thru the roof.

    11. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

      Works for me... it's how "Person of Interest" ended...

      Oh, wait..

      it was nuked in orbit after trying to escape being exterminated on the ground.

      (Person of Interest was a GREAT series, btw!)

    12. Re: Nuke it from orbit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! Who modded my beautiful comment down? Was it someone who wants me to bite their balls until they explode in a bloody white wonder wash?

      Mmmmmmmmm! Mlam mlam mlam!

      Blooooody cuuuuuuummmmmm!

    13. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by antdude · · Score: 1

      Just nuke the Internet and be done. So hasta la vista baby, /. users. :P

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    14. Re:Nuke it from orbit. by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer the Shock-and-awe budget option. Dumb bombs with JDAM kits. Guide one right into Zucks corner office window. Watch it live, on Facebook!

  2. Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    People still use Facebook?

    1. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Funny

      People still use Facebook?

      I didn't use Facebook before it was cool to not use Facebook.

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    2. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

      People still use Facebook?

      Facebook can be very useful - as a garbage container. I use it for writing comments in web sites that require you to register - Facebook makes that straightforward and painless. I am guessing that, by virtue of this fact, those sites send a lot of trash to my Facebook account. I don't really know, as I don't log in to that account. An account that, on the other hand, I created with fake data throughout. By now it probably is nothing but an ever-growing cesspool. Facebook can deal with it.

    3. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only the morons. They should be hunted for sport.

    4. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was doing things before they were cool before it was cool to do things before they are cool.

    5. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Funny

      I deleted Facebook Feb 7 this year. I'm 73 and a retired IT guy.

      I was never cool.

      Until now. I got 17 cool points.

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    6. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Delete it again. it is STILL THERE.

    7. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but they only follow NPR

    8. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by runningduck · · Score: 2

      I hope that you realize that Facebook has very likely been able to tie that fake account back to you. They have found ways to synthesize accounts tied to people's real identities for people who have never had Facebook accounts. Connecting you to your fake account would be trivial by comparison.

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    9. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Only for a couple of years, it doesn't really seem that widely used at this point in time. Google+ is going away but that was much more active and interesting with fewer politics.

    10. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I deleted it years back what a hassle, you simply can not trust the fuckers. You so called delete it and after you so called delete it, if you log back in, testing to make sure it is deleted, they fucking reactivate it and it is all fucking there, which means it was never deleted. They only way to delete Facebook factually, is to become politically active, campaign to have Facebook shut down for crimes against humanity, specifically gross global of invasion of human privacy.

      So I supposedly deleted Facebook something like a decade ago, can I check, no because the fuckers will reactivate the account they never fucking deleted and just filled with data from other sources. So yeah nuke Facebook from orbit, shut the corporation down and lock up ALL of it's senior executives and board members, 10 year should be a reasonable sentence.

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    11. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook != Facebook account

    12. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

      Mainly attention whores and drama queens and their "fans". SO GLAD I'm not on that clusterF**k of a site.

    13. Re:Obligatory Hipster Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I almost feel like I missed out on a piece of history for having never used Facebook now that it's come and gone. Almost.

      Fortunately I haven't been a clueless, computer illiterate n00b since the early 80s and I know how to run my own sites.

  3. No, they're not by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're just moving from one of Facebook's data collecting websites (facebook.com) to a different one (instagram.com). They're still giving Facebook roughly the same amount of data.

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    1. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If you jump from one data-mined centrally controlled service, to another data-mined centrally controlled service, what did you win?

      These people do not seem smart enough to step back and evaluate the reasons that Facebook turned out to be a bad idea, and avoid making those same mistakes the next time around. They have just internalized a media message "Facebook is bad" (and it IS bad), without bothering to understand why it is bad.

      This is why we cannot have nice things.

    2. Re:No, they're not by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And once people actually jump ship to a completely different and new platform, FB will just buy that. With promises to not harvest data or share it with other divisions, and the founders quitting in disgust (and a couple billion richer) when FB breaks that promise.

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    3. Re:No, they're not by L_R_Shaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem for Facebook is the amount of personal data that is uploaded to Instagram is vastly less valuable.

      Instagram accounts are for the most part just a username, some banal tag line, and a bunch of emojis along with the stream of lifestyle photos. Valuable, yes, but nowhere near the comprehensive personal data that Facebook users were uploading to their accounts.

    4. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're not even leaving because of the "bad press," which is what TFA is implying. They really don't give a shit about that. The reason they're leaving Facebook is because they've moved on to the new "shiny thing". They don't really care about bad press, or that they're moving from one sector of data-mining to another. They only care what everyone else is connecting with and keeping up with their peers.

    5. Re:No, they're not by bigpat · · Score: 0

      They're just moving from one of Facebook's data collecting websites (facebook.com) to a different one (instagram.com). They're still giving Facebook roughly the same amount of data.

      Not for much longer. Social Media as a platform (as a advertising/government surveillance program) is being targeted and destroyed for the threat to our Liberty and well being that it is.

      Sorry Mark. Whats App and "private" messaging platforms that can spy on us are next on the chopping block too.

      The only way for Facebook to survive is to go hard into gaming and real value added content. The Internet doesn't like a man in the middle just collecting value from content we create by taking away our privacy.

      If you want to create content and provide additional value in exchange for information about us then that is something we can talk about.
       

    6. Re:No, they're not by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem for Facebook is the amount of personal data that is uploaded to Instagram is vastly less valuable.

      Instagram accounts are for the most part just a username, some banal tag line, and a bunch of emojis along with the stream of lifestyle photos. Valuable, yes, but nowhere near the comprehensive personal data that Facebook users were uploading to their accounts.

      With improvements to photo recognizing algorithms, those photos could become more valuable than text.

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    7. Re:No, they're not by DogDude · · Score: 2

      I don't know about that. They still get all of their location and contact data from their phones (and maybe audio/video?). They can still track them all around the web, since they probably all use their Face/gram logins. I don't know if the data they explicitly put into Facebook ("I like bananas. My favorite color is blue") is more valuable than all of the tracking data they get. And of course, now they can mine those photos, as well, so my bet is that Facebook doesn't care which portal people use, as long as they're using one of them.

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    8. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose you're right.

      The amount of consideration most people give to any of this is precisely zero.

    9. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine Facebook can (and already has?) associated real names with people's photos on Instagram and other such things.

      They have been pushing the envelope in face recognition tech for some time.

    10. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose you're right.

      The amount of consideration most people give to any of this is precisely zero.

      And this explains why we have so many privacy violations, nobody cares as long as they can stare at their phone.

    11. Re:No, they're not by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably like a thousand times more valuable, eh?

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    12. Re:No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're just moving from one of Facebook's data collecting websites (facebook.com) to a different one (instagram.com). [...]

      Yep. Just like choosing a stall in a public restroom to drop a big'n.

    13. Re: No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Instagram mobile app scrapes everything from your phone. It has all of your personal information.

    14. Re: No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not on iOS it doesn't.

    15. Re: No, they're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, I got it. Don't have an account, or would have given you points

    16. Re:No, they're not by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The ads and NSA still collect it all.

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    17. Re:No, they're not by Skubman · · Score: 1

      One man's trash is another soulless corporation's gold mine.

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    18. Re:No, they're not by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      So true. My older kid doesn't use Facebook, just Instagram. She says it's because Facebook is where mom and dad are. My younger kid doesn't use Instagram, just Snapshat. He says it's because Instagram is where his sister is.

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  4. "Users" by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook...

    I wonder how many of those leaving are real users, vs. some kind of bot accounts that are not getting the traction they used to?

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    1. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook...

      I wonder how many of those leaving are real users, vs. some kind of bot accounts that are not getting the traction they used to?

      Exactly. And loss of "users" is most likely just Facebook killing off some of the more obvious bot accounts in hopes of getting a little bit of good PR.

      Most people are too stupid and vain to stop using Facebook.

    2. Re:"Users" by OffTheLip · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Can the users even truly "leave" Facebook? It's like the Hotel California, 'You can check out any time you like But you can never leave',

    3. Re: "Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Kendall's admirer, you are so tsundere. It must feel nice to talk politely and gently about your penis instead of screaming "Nazi" all the time. You'll find you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. ;)

    4. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      At least the Hotel California is honest about it. Spybook and the gang does everything in their power to conceal their true objectives.

    5. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *raises hand*

    6. Re:"Users" by timholman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook...

      There's no need to shut down your account if you simply stop using the platform, which is very much what I am observing. I have unfollowed so many people (because they couldn't resist screeching about politics or religion, or sharing clickbait memes), and blocked so many clickbait sites (e.g. "only 0.1% can answer this correctly", "what dog do you look like", etc.) that my feed is a pale shadow of what it used to be. My real friends (as opposed to FB friends) report the same thing. I simply don't feel a need to check Facebook much anymore. There's nothing interesting going on. If I need to reach out to friends quickly, I message them instead.

      I do not doubt that Facebook engagement metrics are dropping in the U.S. Forget the bot accounts. It's the real users leaving who worry them.

    7. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just ran out of mod points, too. Golf clap for you today.

    8. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've left. a real user.

    9. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook...

      So not the people you know then?
      The age group 12-34 was mentioned. Half of them don't need to leave, all they have to do is to not start using facebook.

      Them and their friends are just starting to use smartphones and services that need some sort of account. Why sign up for facebook, if snap is more fun? Facebook sounds old - book? Grandma is there. Well, she is kind of cool. Much worse, parents are there. If you go on facebook, your parents will insist on being 'friends' and see all you write and comment. Eww.

    10. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're going to leave us hanging with that?!? Seriously--what can only 0.1% answer correctly?

    11. Re:"Users" by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      They don't "leave", they just start logging less often until they eventually forget.

    12. Re:"Users" by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Do people know if you stop being friends on facebook? I added an old school mate and it's non stop politics now, but I don't want to offend him. Similarly for a person who keeps proselytizing.

      This seems to break the unwritten purpose of facebook - share life events, pics of weddings, pics of the kids, keep everyone up to date. I already feel vastly constrained about what I can post when I do feel like it, most people won't really care about a new video game that I like. It was so much easier on Google+ where you could shove your friends and acquaintances (and the odd strangers who followed you for no reason) into separate circles. (two main groups on facebook for me: women who post about family, cats, hobbies, vacations, and men who repost stupid memes)

    13. Re:"Users" by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have twenty Kendalls than the idiot who keeps responding repeatedly to every Kendall post... I'd suggest finding a new hobby, such as chia pet breeding.

    14. Re:"Users" by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's hard to tell who is using and who isn't. You don't really know if someone is there until you see some posting activity. They could be passively checking the updates, or they could not be logging in at all, and you can't tell which until you open the box with the cat in it.

    15. Re:"Users" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook...

      There's no need to shut down your account if you simply stop using the platform,

      This. In fact it would be advisable to keep the account, so you can retain control of your identity.

      The "Leave Facebook" campaigns are doing it wrong; you just have to keep your account and stop signing in. Let it bleed.

    16. Re:"Users" by timholman · · Score: 1

      Do people know if you stop being friends on facebook? I added an old school mate and it's non stop politics now, but I don't want to offend him. Similarly for a person who keeps proselytizing.

      You don't have to stop being friends. Just unfollow them. I assure you that they'll never know.

      What you'll quickly realize is that the people who constantly push politics or religion on Facebook have no desire to actually engage with other people. Facebook is just a convenient soapbox to preach from while they feel superior for their enlightened attitudes.

  5. Facebook is for psychoboomers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless you an old conspiracy nut, why would you use facebook?

  6. old people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the US, only old people use Facebook.

    1. Re:old people by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      well played, sir.

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    2. Re:old people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US, Facebook uses old people.

      (and young ones too, and the middle aged, and children).

  7. Anti-vaxers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are dying off. Thats what it is

  8. And going to Instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook owns Instagram. Facebook will buy up any other competitors.

    It really doesn't matter. Let me know when people get tired sharing every aspect of their lives with the internet, then we'll have something to talk about.

    1. Re:And going to Instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Facebook will buy up any competitors

      Not quite, they tried to buy Snap and got rejected.

    2. Re:And going to Instagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's nothing wrong with socializing on the internet.

      There IS a big problem with sharing everything you do with Facebook, Google, et al.

      We need private mechanisms of socialization, which share with the people you want to share with, and ONLY the ones you want to share with. No middlemen, no censorship, no data brokers.

  9. Post What Post by dmurphycan · · Score: 1

    I would comment but I don't post anymore...

  10. Kendall has no friends, so this fits perfectly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've seen very few people actually leaving Facebook..." - Staring out from your asshole I wouldn't imagine you would be able to see much, true.

  11. I prefer ugly bags of mostly water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer interacting directly with ugly bags of mostly water. I could care less if 1500 people "like" my cat videos online. The people who are most important to me are the ones sitting in front of me.

    The Social Internet was always going to be a passing fad.

    1. Re:I prefer ugly bags of mostly water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I modded you underrated so that you could get some internet points.

    2. Re: I prefer ugly bags of mostly water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw that episode of TNG, too.

    3. Re:I prefer ugly bags of mostly water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer interacting directly with ugly bags of mostly water.

      Boobs are not ugly!

  12. Leaving Versus Inactive by L_R_Shaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have 30-40 friends that I check their Facebook accounts occasionally over the past few years but find myself not even bothering anymore.

    All but a few have bother posting anything for months and in some cases years. Those few that are still active for the most part do so just with profile picture changes or other minor updates.

    I don't know anyone who has bothered to 'leave' as in deleting their accounts. It feels like a ghost town with food still left on the table from months to years ago when the people just left and never came back.

    Facebook's stock is going to be one of the greatest shorts in the history of the stock market. It's only a matter of when.

    1. Re:Leaving Versus Inactive by blahbooboo · · Score: 2

      I have 30-40 friends that I check their Facebook accounts occasionally over the past few years but find myself not even bothering anymore.

      All but a few have bother posting anything for months and in some cases years. Those few that are still active for the most part do so just with profile picture changes or other minor updates.

      I don't know anyone who has bothered to 'leave' as in deleting their accounts. It feels like a ghost town with food still left on the table from months to years ago when the people just left and never came back.

      Facebook's stock is going to be one of the greatest shorts in the history of the stock market. It's only a matter of when.

      Exactly what I've seen as well. People just aren't sharing and when they do it's hidden in endless sponsored posts.

      What was great about facebook a decade ago was it really was just your friends sharing stories. Now it's a newsfeed full of crap you dont care about. Additionally, people just added everyone on the planet as "friends", when they really were just people you met once or twice. Once you get to hundreds and thousands of "friends" your feed is going to be full of crap you dont care about once again...

    2. Re:Leaving Versus Inactive by weeboo0104 · · Score: 2

      Exactly what I've seen as well. People just aren't sharing and when they do it's hidden in endless sponsored posts.

      What was great about facebook a decade ago was it really was just your friends sharing stories. Now it's a newsfeed full of crap you dont care about.

      THIS! I've reported several "Sponsored" posts that were obviously clickbait or outright scams. Not a single one was found to be in violation of Facebook guidelines. It the sponsors check clears, all is good with Facebook.

      The final nail in the coffin for my FB account was when I was using the FB app on my phone this past December. I was commuting on the train to downtown Chicago and was watching about 2 hours a day of YouTube videos. Not surprisingly, I got a data usage warning about the 3rd week of December that I was within a gigabyte of my data limit. What was surprising was when I checked my mobile data usage, Facebook used more bandwidth than all my other apps COMBINED (including YouTube). I wasn't checking Facebook during the day at work and the hour trip each way downtown was spent on YouTube. So if I wasn't actively using the app, what was chewing up my bandwidth?

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    3. Re:Leaving Versus Inactive by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      It feels like a ghost town with food still left on the table from months to years ago when the people just left and never came back.

      Correct.

      I use an account I made for someone else years ago, that I have the pw for.
      I get on every once in a while, and from what I've seen, it is becoming more like MySpace all the time.

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    4. Re:Leaving Versus Inactive by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      If one really wants to be a hipster, they should get back on MySpace right now. Just like vinyl and cassettes they're going to adopt the old social media site as their next fad sooner or later.

      Then you can say you were back on MySpace before getting back on MySpace was cool.

    5. Re: Leaving Versus Inactive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So if I wasn't actively using the app, what was chewing up my bandwidth?"

      Surveillance.

  13. You nailed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most people are too stupid and vain to stop using Facebook.

    Kendall to a T.

    But it's even worse than that, she's so dishonest she's convinced herself that it's not a problem.

  14. Interesting by Brett+Buck · · Score: 0, Troll

    Interesting but ultimately futile, since they will still be mining your data indefinitely.

            It is possibly too obvious to point out, but no one seemed to care one whit about it until it became a supposed scandal - by selling the data to the Trump campaign. No one gave a tinker's damn about it when Obama very famously did the same.

    1. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is all revenge for siding with Trump during the campaign. FB was targeted pretty soon after the election as the source for all the fake news that led people to vote for Trump and therefore swung the election. Prior to that it was a media darling.

  15. Eternal September by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The flood gates opened, anyone could register, people moved on. News at 11.

  16. Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 2

    Seriously, 12-35 isn't an age group, it's the entirety of the best days of your life (not that life past 35 isn't good, it's great, but generally it's not as good as the previous years). If you're still using social media past 35, I feel sorry for you. If you need a real friend, I'm here.

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    1. Re:Great age group, guys by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      If you need a real friend, I'm here.

      I need a real friend!

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    2. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Funny

      ok buddy, what should we do first?

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    3. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know. what do you want to do?

    4. Re:Great age group, guys by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 2

      ok buddy, what should we do first?

      Why did I hear that in Liam Neeson's Good Cop voice from The LEGO Movie...? And are you going to try to strap him in front of a giant laser...

    5. Re:Great age group, guys by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      If you're still using social media past 35, I feel sorry for you.

      What?? Past 35 is when you have kids. Facebook seems one of the easiest way to share child photos+videos with grandparents.

    6. Re: Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't sell pictures of my child so cheap

    7. Re:Great age group, guys by swillden · · Score: 2

      not that life past 35 isn't good, it's great, but generally it's not as good as the previous years

      I think 35 is about when the best part starts.

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    8. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I got from this age group is that Facebook is accepting 12 year olds onto facebook even though you are supposed to be 13 in order to sign up for facebook

    9. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Why did I hear that in Liam Neeson's Good Cop voice from The LEGO Movie

      Because you need a real friend, too?

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    10. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      I figure we'd go in some public place and eat food. Then once we determine that the other isn't a serial-killer, we can move onto inviting each other to our houses, introduce each other to our respective families and friends, maybe join a kickball league, then next thing you know, we're buying each other Christmas gifts, and I'm in your wedding.

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    11. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Well, that's not a normal experience, and shows that you have a great deal of wisdom.

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    12. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      35+ has been pretty fucking horrible to me, but then again, so was 12-35.

    13. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12-23 was sort of all around awful. Just work and school and more work and more school. It got worse as it went.
      24-32 was where things got better, finally freed of some burdens but with no security whatsoever about finances and survival.
      32-38 has been pretty good.

      I didn't start using social media until I was 35. Although the only platform I use is Instagram, and facebook is running that into the ground.

    14. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Why can't you just send photos via text messages? Do you really have to give the pictures to FaceBook (whereby they take ownership), so that FaceBook can send your parents pics of their grandkids?

      How about if I create a web page on my computer at home, and you upload all of your personal information, pictures of your kids, whatever, and then your family and friends can also log into my server and see said stuff? I'll do this for free. And if you want to, I'll allow all of your family and friends to upload content, and you can see their stuff. If you also want, I'll create a chat program that'll run on that site, and y'all can all text each other ...anything that you want, and don't hold back. I will take ownership of all of the data, and of course, in no way do I plan to turn anyone down that offers to pay for my newly acquired data - thought I should mention that. But hey, it's [blink] FREE [/blink], so...

      That's the FaceBook business model.

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    15. Re:Great age group, guys by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Don't feel sorry for me. I'm 60, and posted about my upcoming retirement last night. 45 of my friends have already responded. And no, I don't have FB friends that I barely know. And yes, I know FB is a shithole, but I've yet to see a good alternative when your friends are spread all over the country, and a few in other countries.

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    16. Re:Great age group, guys by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      I didn't join FB until my kid was in high school. It was another tool for me to keep up with what she was doing. And then I was also able to catch up with old friends who I hadn't heard from in ages, or totally lost track of.

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    17. Re:Great age group, guys by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      At 60, I would say that the late 20s and up to ~40 were the best years of my life. But, I'm about to retire to a lake, so a boat, a dog, and some fishing poles may change my opinion.

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    18. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IME for people with heavier issues like childhood traumas, around/after age 30-40 many are growing out of it or somehow learn to accept it.
      When younger, such issues can still dominate their life, still trying to find a way to manage it/themselves/people/life/the world.
      Also, I know a few people that have thrown their (formerly miserable) life around at about age 50.

      Maybe it's different if you are in better (or at least average) psychological shape from the get go.
      Still, almost everyone has at least minor traumas, which may be easier to cover up if they aren't as severe.
      But when you are able to do that, you cannot "solve" them either, so no improvement on that front as you get older.

    19. Re:Great age group, guys by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      Why can't you just send photos via text messages? Do you really have to give the pictures to FaceBook (whereby they take ownership), so that FaceBook can send your parents pics of their grandkids?

      I can't send photos and videos by text because (1) international texts are ruinously expensive, (2) sending a 2min high-res video clip isn't really possible over text, (3) text message would result in too many parent-support-calls "could you send that again please?" or "I got a new phone and I've lost all the videos of my grandchildren" or "I'm out of space", (4) maintaining a group chat of 8 grandparents+uncles generates too much traffic which would make the tech-savvy uncles disengage, and sending each photo individually to 8 grandparents+uncles would be too much work on my part.

      That's the FaceBook business model.

      I know what the business model is. I'm telling you that for the scenario/demographic in question, when you consider the end-to-end experience with non-technie people, it's well worth it.

      I also share photos and videos via OneDrive sometimes, but that's quite difficult for non-technie people to get a grip on. It also doesn't have a rich enough commenting model to build the kind of social bonds we aim to build by sharing pics of grandchildren.

      I also used to run my own IMAP mailserver because I didn't trust any company with my email archive. Don't anymore because I wasn't a confident enough sysadmin to maintain security and reliability, and I got those things better by paying an email-hosting company to do it for me.

    20. Re:Great age group, guys by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Oh my, that sounds too complex for me.

    21. Re:Great age group, guys by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      I think how one uses social media determines if one is pathetic or not. An obsessive user is pathetic regardless of age although perhaps more understandable among the younger set.

      Do real friends bring apples?

    22. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that's not a normal experience, and shows that you have a great deal of wisdom.

      As someone around that age (roughly), can you please explain? I get the feeling maybe I could benefit from your view. I try to entertain as many perspectives as I can because I damn sure don't know everything.

    23. Re:Great age group, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, you're on /. so that sounds about right!
      (it applies to me too, obviously)

    24. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Ahh, internationally speaking, that makes much more sense (and I feel silly for not thinking about that before). Cheers for keeping your folks as close as you can!

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    25. Re:Great age group, guys by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      There's a saying that goes something like, "Beauty is a curse for women, in the same way that money is a curse for men." The lesson there is to love yourself for what you really are, and not for some temporary quality.

      When we're young, we don't consider so many things, and in not doing so, we enjoy the freedom that comes with not caring. As we get older, we generally feel the weight of the world, and it generally causes people to feel depressed, just waiting to die. But when this isn't the case, it's because the person usually spent their early years considering more things than average people do, and when they get older, they've worked out methods to stay in touch with the part of them that doesn't change. Being in touch with the part of yourself that doesn't change produces wisdom.

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  17. One problem with being a web site by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    is that there's not a lot to keep your users coming back. All it takes is for them and their immediate circle to switch to anther networking site or method. Something hipper and cooler. Once you lose the young 'uns you become uncool real fast. It's only a matter of time before you're associated with... email (*hurk*).

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    1. Re:One problem with being a web site by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I have friends not on any social media, so the email is the main contact method and it gets a lot of use.

  18. They are not leaving Facebook by SPopulisQR · · Score: 1

    Many users have multiple accounts so that you can safely check on other people. At some point you stop using those other accounts... Facebook for many people is nothing but interactive address book, with messaging capabilties.

  19. left left and left again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Immediate family left, stopped logging in and uninstalled the phone app well over a year ago.

    Screen instead of actually talking to someone or seeing them in person was a poor substitute.

  20. Alternate theory by chispito · · Score: 2
    Maybe it isn't that

    All the bad press about Facebook might be catching up to the company.

    Maybe it is that the attention spans of those 12-34 year olds have slidden even farther. Or maybe it's just that the platform was due to start declining anyway as people, finally, start to understand how advertising-based business models and OSINT work.

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    1. Re:Alternate theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot.

    2. Re:Alternate theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      man i wish slidden was a real word

    3. Re:Alternate theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slizzard is a word; why not slidden?

    4. Re: Alternate theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? That was a good post.

    5. Re:Alternate theory by chispito · · Score: 1

      man i wish slidden was a real word

      Sigh. I was going to make a "cromulent" joke but I'm too disappointed in myself. I'll try to scrub it from my brain.

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  21. Preachers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever I see Zuck speaking I am reminded of Olstein. Say anything to the sheep so I can get my next jet. Amazing how well they lie. Zuck, "I hold your privacy in the highest regard." Most successful people nowadays seem to have mastered it. From Trump, to Zuck to Olstein. Maybe we should be teaching kids how to lie well on camera.

  22. I quit all of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it was good while it lasted, but greed and the temptation of all that data provided Zuckerberg and company a bunch of data they couldn't resist exploiting for their own benefit. It made many of them at Facebook very wealthy which was probably the goal in the first place. Best thing to do is stop feeding the monster so it will die.

    1. Re: I quit all of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was never good, and Zuck was always a greedy fuck. Some of us saw FB for what it was right from the start and either never joined (my gf) or joined for a couple of years at the start, then left (me).

      There's another post here about FB being a huge short opportunity. They're probably right, but what more people should be terrified of is what happens when they carve up the dying company and sell off the assets (user data) to the highest bidder. RadioShack did this with their point of sale telephone numbers database. Imagine Facebook doing the same. It will happen.

  23. The 'Gram by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did you know that the number of US users "leaving Facebook" is almost exactly the same as the number of US users joining Instagram? ...which is owned by Facebook.

    Sorry, Americans, you played yourself.

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    1. Re:The 'Gram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly the same as the number of US users joining Instagram?

      American: WTF is instagram?

      You see... we actually just use SMS to talk to each other, because it's free and *universal.

      * We don't give a fuck about you, because your country sucks.

    2. Re:The 'Gram by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      SMS is not free. Try to send and receive SMS on a phone without a SIM card, without any carrier contract.

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    3. Re: The 'Gram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try doing the same with instagram without an internet connection somebody paid for.

    4. Re:The 'Gram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a problem for those poor countries we don't give a fuck about. Countries that suck is where people can't afford a cell phone plan.

    5. Re:The 'Gram by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      So I guess what you're saying is that Canada and the USA both suck.

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  24. Businesses will be the last holdouts by reboot246 · · Score: 2

    Businesses, at least those that advertise, absolutely love facebook. Seems that most ads end with, "Like us on facebook!" Which, of course, gives me just one more reason to dislike them and not do business with them.*

    If we can somehow get businesses to stop their facebook habit, then we could finally see the end of it.

    *If they're that unconcerned about their own privacy, then how could I ever trust them with mine?

    1. Re:Businesses will be the last holdouts by Dracos · · Score: 1

      It's not every business exactly. The ad industry loves facebook, and they've added as much integration as they can think of to their client services.

  25. Facebook solved this for me by Grand+Facade · · Score: 1

    by locking me out of my account and demanding legal proof of my name!

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  26. The agriculture ministry is not in charg of Gundam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "In Korea only old people use Facebook"

  27. Re:Brett Buttfuck the traitor apologist, tsk. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop sowing division, Ivan.

  28. Nope you can't w/o help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can quit for a few days to weeks, but you'll be back. If they are serious they will need bupropion.

  29. The good ones? by TJHook3r · · Score: 1

    The good ones leaving or the anti-vaxxers etc? I think I know the answer!

  30. For now... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ... I've left LinkedIN. But I'm staying with FB for a while. I have cut back my already meager participation to nearly no participation on FB, though. I cut back for one main reason beside the whole mess that is FB nowadays - when I log on, I cannot get FB to show me my newsfeed in the manner I want to see it, for some reason, FB thinks it knows better what items on my news feed to show me first. So long as FB continues to do that, I will know that I have little to no control over what I do on FB, so I'm out of there eventually.

    1. Re:For now... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Look at FBP. It overrides the default view order and can hide all or part of the left and right panes. I used it before I deleted.

      Fun Fact: Facebook does not allow for posting that link in your timeline.

      Bonus: If you log in using Chrome, there's an extension that deletes shit by month, going back as far as you like. I used Social Book Post Manager. It took a while, but it works.

      For Twitter, use https://www.tweetdelete.net/

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    2. Re:For now... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the pointer, by my leaning at this point is to leave FB, and not try to make staying their better.

  31. Where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So where are the kids going?

  32. bad press is not the problem by jsepeta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mark Zuckerberg's lack of ethics is the problem. We're the product and we don't want to be bought, sold, or processed.

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    1. Re: bad press is not the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too late. Even if everyone left tomorrow the damage has been done. What do you think Zuck will do with all that user data if FB collapses? That's right, sell it off to the highest bidder. They have it, they own it, and they will do it. Be afraid.

    2. Re:bad press is not the problem by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

      Hmmm...

      The NY Times is a product I (reluctantly) pay for (yes, I know I can get it for free), and yet I keep getting notices at the bottom of my pages that they want me to accept ads...

      Yeaaaah, NO!

      I'm not wanting to pay for the privilege of seeing ads.

  33. I'm a statistic! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    I posted this the other day.

    I deleted Facebook ...

    Disclaimer: I am not in the demographic listed in TFS. I'm 73 and very disappointed in the Internet at large.

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  34. you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A picture is worth a thousand words don't ya know

  35. Good. The sooner it dies the better for everyone by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Humanity would be better off leaving all so-called 'social media' and learning to actually interact with actual people live in person again.

  36. Do they really need bad press? by RuiFRibeiro · · Score: 1

    The chap app is annoying and gives more publicity every day it is passing, and even is construed in such a way for you to see movies or other functionalities by mistake.
    The feed is annoying, and they try to change it and fight regularly plugins/app filtering it; they also invent news ways of spamming us, like "a donate bottom"....
    So little wonder people is leaving....

  37. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some Americans are finally waking up...

  38. Re:WHY DON'T YOU ASSHOLES FUCK OFF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't stop. We're having too much fun.

  39. Re:WHY DON'T YOU ASSHOLES FUCK OFF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    retard is off topic

  40. People are quitting Facebook? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    I wonder why...

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  42. #MeToo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Months ago, haven't missed it a bit.

  43. Never Fear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook has enough data on everyone to keep foisting advertisers in to spending big; AND, they can use images from the internet to make people who dont exist if the advertisers start asking questions.

  44. Move to XMPP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move to XMPP guys

  45. It used to be about friends by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    Facebook used to be where I went to see what my friends are up to. Now it's where I go to be bombarded with sponsored crap. It's all political outrage, cat videos and click-bait.

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