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EU To Ban Plastic Plates, Cups, and Cutlery by 2021; Will Require Plastic Bottles Be Made of 25% Recycled Content By 2025 (fastcompany.com)
The European Union has decided to ban plastic consumer items including plates, cutlery and straws as of 2021 to help clean up oceans. The prohibition on single-use plastics approved by the European Parliament this week in Strasbourg, France, also applies to beverage cups, food containers and cotton bud sticks. A report adds: The new legislation also states that by 2025, plastic bottles should be made of 25 percent recycled content. The new legislation also sets an admirable target of recycling 90 percent of plastic bottles by 2029 -- as well as a goal of making them out of 30 percent recycled material by 2030. Parliament originally rolled out its plan at the end of 2018 and have now made good on the ambition directive.
I want my stuff made of new virgin plastic. I dont want dirty crap. God damn euro weenys. Always whining.
what a waste of time and resources, both, this law and EU itself.
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Way to focus on the things that really matter
Order all dishes and cutlery be made by manual labor. That'll be good for job creation too.
Every country is about to turn into Paris riots.
Regional recycling centers that have recycling facilities at site, so they don't have to truck garbage all over the world to accomplish recycling. China is no longer taking it, other countries either. EU has to build these plants first.
Start now. It's a jobs program. This is a need that until we get rid of plastic disposable products entirely, we all share. It has to go somewhere, you might as well have somewhere be local. 0-emissions plastic recycling plants are possible.
Consumer waste from developed countries makes up a very small percentage of plastic waste in the ocean. While it's still a good move on principle, the EU's decision isn't going to fix the problem.
I'm old enough to remember that this move to plastic was driven by "good intentions" back in the 70s because all the products were destroying the trees because of the demand on paper, pulp and wood products. Plastic after all was RECYCLABLE... except nobody bothered and now that China won't do the recycling the governments don't care to spend the money on infrastructure when they can use it to pay off their political cronies at inflated rates.
This emotionalist and irrational (yes, irrational) response to a problem could easily be handled by better pollution monitoring, regulation and better recycling. But that would require a government that actually did its job and not just run to ban things because it makes them feel better to assuage a 12 year old's shoddy science fair paper.
airport restaurants now? Cool.
Sure, sure... what did you say your name was, and how much did you wager? No wager? Oh, so you're just a dumbass making prognostications eh? I see.
Bruno, throw our cheapskate blathering friend into the street, atta boy.
Well at least it makes a little more sense than banning just plastic straws like California? Not being able to get a plastic straw when drinking out of a plastic cup with a plastic lid is just silly. Especially when waxed paper cups work as a much better alternative to plastic than the stupid flimsy paper straws we're supposed to use instead.
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"I want my stuff made of new virgin plastic." = Your "stuff" one assumes you're referring to your balls? Yes, they're plastic and virginal. They obviously don't function, you're just a whiny Fox News faggot like Hammity. #Fake pubes.
Poor, poor, Euros. Powerless, impotent, pressed into doing the service of faceless bureaucrats.
No one is going to give you dangerous weapons and encourage knife crime. You will be given wooden knife-like objects and learn to like it.
Seeing the stream of articles about what the EU is doing, maybe Brexit has a point after all. Do open borders and free trade have to come with this baggage?
Exactly. Clearcutting forests for disposable utensils is as dumb as making it from non-biodegradeable plastics that then wind up polluting the ecosystem (even inside our foods) for as long as human civilization lasts.
The OP (Republican?) wants to pretend there is no benefit in learning from previous mistakes as time goes forward. That's their ideology in a nutshell.
Plastic is not the problem. True.
Not recycling is. Since it will mean not taking away the trash and not replenishing your stock. So soon you will sit in your own excrements, like a very VERY primitivr lifeform.
So to get what you want, while still recycling, you need to put dead animals underground for a few million years.
Who have been part of a food chain, whose lowest lifeforms eat plastic.
Deal?
Here at Microsoft, we have BioWare. Apparently it's not just the name of a game, it's all the name of biodegradable "plastic" utensils, which we're told to dispose of in the compost bin. Other places are using a corn-derived plastic substitute that is biodegradable.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
When I was a kid I was told that paper bags were the root of all evil, and it was a great environmental achievement that grocery stores switched to using plastic.
Now its all paper bags and straws again. If you wonder why there are skeptics, well, this kind of shit is why.
Is this actually about the environment or is it just corporations cutting costs and patting themselves on the back afterwards?
do not originate from places affected by this ban. such a ban will essentially 'save' only a single cubic meter of the entire fucking ocean (1.5E18 cubic meters total), as virtually all the plastic bits in it originate from asia (china, india, etc).. not from 'the west' (europe, north america)
Maybe one of his porcine brides escaped? Pooooor red state babydick.
Can anyone tell me why these things aren't being mass produced with bamboo? There's so much we could make out of bamboo and it grows so readily in so many places, yet it's so underutilized.
1. From all possible things, you knowingly chose one with one of the smallest amounts [A] of "doing something".
2. There are well-known things where you can do much larger amounts [B] with the same effort/cost.
3. So you delinerately chose, NOT to do [B-A=C] amount of "something".
4. To use your own argument: It is better to do something [A+C=B], than to do nothing [A+0=A]. I other words: [B>A]
QED
The only pussies you ever had was the disease infested ones. Listen you low life piece of shit. I support the EU on this law. Unlike you mother fucker, I am not a bigot.
Go back to fucking your tree knots because that is the only fuck you will ever get.
Anonymous comments are as pathetic as the anonymous "sources" that contaminate gutless journalism from the New York Time
Because the Baltic is full of garbage.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
If it wasn't that plastic one time bags can be seen on every street corner. I would argue against this because my house always reuse's them at least once.
Unlike the bigot pussies(liberal AC's), I do read suggestions from opposing parties with an open mind, and a lot of times I can see the merit in the idea. In this case, I fully support the new law.
Anonymous comments are as pathetic as the anonymous "sources" that contaminate gutless journalism from the New York Time
One angry libtard here.
I agree in principle that we should not needlessly waste oil or produce trash. But an outright ban has a habit of giving you unforeseen consequences in corner cases. We have market-based regulations available that produce the desired outcome at a lower cost. Place a Pigouvian Tax on manufacturing these items. Bonus: you can marginally lower some other tax or decrease deficits.
Have a good cry, let it all out like a bitch, that's a good bitch. Pooooor red state babydick. It's sad, he doesn't even have a daughter to fuck like Donald.. anyone got a tissue so he can wipe Putin's cum out of his tears?
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So this is going to have how much of an effect ? If you want to spend money to fix a problem fine but try and put it to use where it will actually do some good.
You can still make "plastic" plates cups and cutlery that are derived from:
seaweed (in fact the basic science for this has been known for a decade) - this composts naturally, and is usually coated with a thin film that is not water soluble, but will eventually biodegrade if exposed to sunlight (will take longer if kept in landfills)
vegetable fibers (we've used these in entire countries, and at most major universities - anyplace that you see the compost bin says "university plates, utensils and food containers are compostable") - made in large scale, these are fairly close to the costs of plastic.
The early ones from around the 1990s melted too fast, the 2000s were a bit better, but the 2020 version is fairly good - the only exception is if you leave it in your hot (not warm, hot) drink for more than an hour. Why are you taking up a seat for that long? Use a biodegradable ceramic or metal or glass container if you're taking that long, slacker!
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I'm Canadian, we are the worst polluters in the world. 23 tons per person of green house gas*. Trump's America is only 19 tons. My plastic plates and utensils waste might not even be an entire kg in a year. Also in most of the western world we don't use our rivers as garbage dumps. The great plastic patch in the pacific isn't because people are using plastic bags it's because people are just dumping shit in their rivers. So seriously what fucking problem are these greens trying to solve? You want to solve global warming, get Canadian's to live in cities that are walkable. A person in London, England will with the same income as me will produce nearly 1/3rd the green house gas as me because they don't drive everywhere and their house shares a few walls with their neighbours.
*the Canadian government has elected not to count environmental sources in our green house gas emissions. Due to mind mindbogglingly stupid management of our forests where we planted a single species of inbred trees on clear cut land. We now have large areas of dead and rotting trees that are causing our forest to be net contributors to green house gas emissions.
This will last about two years and then the rebellion will occur as people will be fed up with the shit that they have to put up with. No plastic. What are you going to use glass? Aluminum? Paper and kill more trees?
This is the dumbest generation in the history of humanity. We are devolving by listening to the children who with their 25 years of life or 300 months or living believe that they are smarted when in fact they are the most ignorant. If you have to search the Internet you simply don't know shit. Yet, this generation feels that searching the Internet is an indication of being smart.
That Titanic orchestra is playing its ass off.
That's exactly what we'll tell the Libertarian faggot trolls like yourself, good point. Go suck Putin's cock directly, cut out the lying middle-traitor, Drumpftards. Back to Moscow - BEFORE WE HANG YOU TRAITORS.
Nothing better than a beer in a paper cup!
Will $CURRENT_YEAR be the year of the Linux Desktop?
Bill got caught lying 12-25 times repeatedly stating "Blood plasma is sterile" and then later that "The Chinese Govt does not directly censor Chinese citizens" and other absolute bullshit head-in-ass retard-level lies. You're not trustworthy.
You are not a source of information that anyone should or even could trust, knowing your dishonest history. Sorry. That's what accountability means when you get caught lying repeatedly, over and over, even after directly corrected.
You're nothing but a liar, Bill.
THis will without doubt, fuolly and certainly cure thed problem. Plastics will disappear from th eoceans overnight, never to plague thte world again.....
Oh...hold on..... No it won't. Because the EU isn't the problem, and the USA isn't the problem.
This won't remotely put a dent in the problem. Because the countries that are the problem don't give a damn other than being really happy that other countries are being blamed for what they are doing.
Virtue signalling that accomplishes nothing. Billy said it best: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Bill got caught lying 12-25 times repeatedly stating "Blood plasma is sterile" and then later that "The Chinese Govt does not directly censor Chinese citizens" and other absolute bullshit head-in-ass retard-level lies. You're not trustworthy.
You are not a source of information that anyone should or even could trust, knowing your dishonest history. Sorry. That's what accountability means when you get caught lying repeatedly, over and over, even after directly corrected.
You're a liar, Bill.
^ Solve the problem, kill these lying GOP faggots one by one. The only solution Nazi Republican faggots understand is a bullet to their lying obese inbred faggot faces. No quarter, kill them all as God intended of lying faggots.
Nobody will miss them.
There is plastic that is made from wood. And paper gets soggy.
Just use fucking re-usable cutlery. What's the fucking problem anyway? Nobody on the planet needs single-use cutlery.
Cutting brownies is impossible without plastic knives.
Yep, I love this idea. Plastic has creeped into everything. My mom recently told me when she was a kid, there were few fast food places, but you could stop by certain places with delis. The delis would give you a glass to go plate... I take it you'd recycle the glass later.
Plastic straws/knives/plates/etc. make up a tiny portion of plastic waste. Europe (and the US) make up a tiny portion of ocean plastic waste. Almost all is from Asia and Africa.
So the net change to this is near zero. This is all virtue signaling and will have no real change to pollution.
Meanwhile, it will inconvenience hundreds of millions of people.
Absolute bovine excrement.
Ban all plastic based paint and synthetic rubber tires, those are a major source of plastic pollution.
They banned plastic stuff in my part of California, and I have to tell you, nothing has changed except less wasted plastic. When you go to a restaurant or fast food, instead of dropping a straw in front of you that you ignore and ends up in the trash, you have to actually say, "I'll take a straw, please" (and the please is only required if you happened to have been raised right, which leaves out Trump voters, but to be honest, we leave out Trump voters generally here in California). It's absolutely no big deal and life goes on. So don't be such goddamn drama queens about it. You would think not automatically getting a straw is like being put in chains and forced to do manual labor for the collective. You'll live, you fat bastards, and you shouldn't be shoving that fast food down your neck anyway. Go home and cook yourself some vegetables.
Anyway, the biodegradable paper straws are far superior for snorting coke. Less waste all around.
You are welcome on my lawn.
should ban kinder supprice eggs also!
they are so full of plastic and crap...
You're a known lying faggot. As someone who owns about 3 dozen lying faggots on slashdot daily, prove it bitch. Your word is worth nothing.
Then...
Frexit
Grexit
Itexit
Spexit
etc...
Would those not work great?
IMHO, stanless steel straws would be a much better choice. Or safe glass ones for restaurants that have a higher class of clients who can be expected to not be retards and blame themselves if they are.
Or bamboo ones. That would actually be great. They could even be made to last for many uses!
Use glass.
It can be recycled infinitely, and if you want you can reuse the bottles and plates.
This will last about two years and then the rebellion will occur as people will be fed up with the shit that they have to put up with.
Oh, you delicate little AC snowflake you. Heaven forbid you have to use paper or glass or aluminum.
I don't respond to AC's.
Meanwhile, it will inconvenience hundreds of millions of people.
Well, that's certainly the most important thing, isn't it? "Convenience". You must be American. I've only heard Americans spouting, "I don't want to help save our environment because it will inconvenience me." Jesus Christ, that's a level of selfishness that you must be proud of.
I don't respond to AC's.
NOTHING! Yay!
Bring on the excuses... It's too hard, too expensive, doesn't do enough, goes too far, inconveniences me personally, or, my favorite, doesn't matter anyway.
May your children all die in a hot, resource scarce world...
Where will you get red Solo cups? Perhaps you can import them...
EU To Ban Plastic Plates, Cups, and Cutlery by 2021; Will Require Plastic Bottles Be Made of 25% Recycled Content By 2025
EU Ravaged By Rapidly Spreading Diseases In Hospitals, Prisons, And Other Institutions Washing And Reusing Cutlery And Dishware
The EU is second to none in the race for the Darwin Award.
What will be cheaper, the replacement for disposable dishes and cutlery plus the cost of transitioning to them, or cleaning up the trash?
Have we considered that it might be cheaper to let it all gather in that one part of the Pacific where it all seems to be ending up anyhow, and just sweep it up?
Maybe it isn't. Maybe it would be worse to do it that way regardless. I don't know, which is why the question needs to be asked and answered.
In 2025 the world bans bureaucracy
I work at a landfill. Plastic plates, cups and cutlery aren't even on the radar. Now, plastic bags, plastic wrap, and chip/crisps/cookie/biscuit bags...ban those if you really want to have a positive effect on the environment.