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Burger King is Testing a Vegetarian Whopper Made With Impossible Burger (cnbc.com)

Burger King is testing a vegetarian version of its Whopper that uses an Impossible Burger for its patties, becoming the first national fast-food chain to sell the plant-based burger. From a report: The Restaurant Brands International subsidiary is offering the Impossible Whopper at 59 St. Louis locations. The chain already sells veggie patties made by Kellogg's vegetarian brand, Morningstar Farms. To announce the launch, Burger King released a video on April Fools' Day that shows unsuspecting Whopper fans eating the version with the Impossible Burger and then exclaiming that they can't taste the difference. Silicon Valley-based Impossible Foods genetically engineers heme, a protein that makes the vegetarian-friendly burger taste like meat. The ingredient is also responsible for giving the patty red juices that make it look like it's bleeding, just like a piece of beef.

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  1. Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 3, Informative

    White Castle has been serving the Impossible Burger "meat" for months.

    1. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by turp182 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Correct, there are 599 White Castles in about 15 states.

      https://www.menuism.com/restau...

      There are about 13,000 Burger Kings.

      https://www.google.com/search?...

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    2. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think creimer eats anything within his visual field

    3. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      I don't know if there are official rules about what minimum area/number of states would qualify a chain as "national", but at 13 states White Castle sounds pretty regional to me. As someone who grew up on the west coast i'd never even heard of them until i went to college and made some friends from the east coast.

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    4. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by supremebob · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think that McDonald's could get away with this on a Big Mac pretty easily, since the patties are pretty small and the sauce overpowers everything flavor wise.

      A Burger King Whopper wouldn't have been my first choice, since it seems to have a pretty high meat to bun ratio.

    5. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Not one in GA or a few other states so I would say not national. Same reason you wouldn't consider Waffle House national.

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    6. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 1

      Yes, but "all restaurants in the chain" selling IB's as a normal menu item for almost a year (with heavy promotion in-store) beats "59 restaurants in one city" as far as "testing".

    7. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In all fairness, White Castle has been serving "meat" for decades.

    8. Re: Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that fat old pedophile was finally off the site and winding down as a meme.

    9. Re: Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not in la. Nor is krystal.

    10. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I don't know if there are official rules about what minimum area/number of states would qualify a chain as "national", but at 13 states White Castle sounds pretty regional to me. As someone who grew up on the west coast i'd never even heard of them until i went to college and made some friends from the east coast.

      In the southeast of the US, we have Krystals....never tried a White Castle, but I'm guessing they're about the same thing..."rectum rockets", "gut bombs"....but great at 3am in the morning!!

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    11. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "great at 3am in the morning!!"

      Yes, but how are they at 3am in the evening?

    12. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by flink · · Score: 1

      Well of course, because while one might chill at White Castle because it is the best, when out west, lacking other options, it's preferable to be fly at Fat Burger.

    13. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they all sell IBS

    14. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same for Carl's Jr. / Hardee's

      Article must have been written by someone from Seattle

    15. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Monkey-Wrench-Inc · · Score: 1

      True, but White Castle fries only come in one size.

    16. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "rectum rockets", "gut bombs"

      What can you say? Marketing just works.

    17. Re: Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Biden took his place.

    18. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      >Same reason you wouldn't consider Waffle House national.

      I wouldn't consider it's product to be food either.

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    19. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by sjames · · Score: 1

      Based on comparisons from friends who previously lived in Chicago, they're quite similar.

    20. Re:Ah, so White Castle isn't "national" by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      IMHO, out west the best options for a burger are:
      1: In-n-Out
      2: Fat Burger
      3: Five Guys
      4: Burger King


      OTOH, for fries the best options, when _fresh_, are:
      1: In-n-Out
      2: Del Taco
      3: Five Guys
      4: Fat Burger/Burger King

      (In-n-Out fries get a boost in my personal rating because i can get them animal style, but admittedly out of all the options they're also the fries that deteriorate most quickly if you get them to go.)

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  2. Seems pretty smart by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm still not sure if I would like the Impossible Burger as much as a real hamburger.

    But like it more than a Burger King or McDonalds burger? Suddenly I find it a lot more believable.

    Between that and the much better naming "Impossible Burger"s sounds much cooler than "Veggieburger" I could see this gaining some traction simply because of better quality.

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    1. Re:Seems pretty smart by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Let's hope so...

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    2. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Next step would be to reduce the number of ingredients for the buns from 47 to 6.

    3. Re:Seems pretty smart by idk07002 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I tried it and found it 90% as good as a real hamburger and would definitely eat it again. I hope they make it available in the supermarket sooner than later.

    4. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SK, you should read up on the role that Carnitine plays in heart disease bacteria digest L-carnitine and turn it into a compound called trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO). In studies in mice, TMAO has been shown to cause atherosclerosis, the disease process that leads to cholesterol-clogged arteries.

      It is not just about reducing the impact that raising animals for food has on our environment, but on ourselves as well.

    5. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Seems pretty smart by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Between that and the much better naming "Impossible Burger"s sounds much cooler than "Veggieburger" I could see this gaining some traction simply because of better quality.

      Personally, I am holding out for the Soylent Green Veggieburger.

      Made exclusively from nutritious and wholesome free-range Veggies.

      Veggies pay careful attention to the quality of the food they eat, so any food made of them should be very healthy, indeed.

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    7. Re:Seems pretty smart by zlives · · Score: 1

      that would be ludicrous burger

    8. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pssst - Don't feed the Colorado incel faggot. He sucks Putin's cock with those bitch lips.

    9. Re:Seems pretty smart by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, can't wait until I can get it at the supermarket.

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    10. Re:Seems pretty smart by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When I worked at a hotel, occasionally a convention group would order veggie burgers but leave enough leftovers that the staff were allowed to eat them. These were better than the mass-produced fast food beef hamburgers I've eaten. They were so good I actually went online to track down a retail seller of the veggie patties so I could eat them at home. That's when I discovered from the nutrition label that they got the taste by loading it up with as much saturated fat as a ground beef burger. So basically it wasn't any healthier for you than a beef burger, it was just made from plants to assuage the guilt of vegetarians. (This isn't the same veggie patty, but you can see what I mean about the saturated fat content.)

    11. Re:Seems pretty smart by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      The first time I had it, it came with vegan cheese which really ruined the burger.

      The second time I had it I put cheddar and bacon on it. Better than most fast food burgers I've had by quite a bit. I checked to make sure that it was indeed the right patty, and the waitress laughed and said I was the second person who needed confirmation in as many minutes.

      What's a little stupid about it is that it's about as unhealthy as a regular burger. I was expecting it to be healthier, maybe have some fiber and less fat, but it's just slightly fewer calories and just as fatty. Better for the earth, but not all that much better for consumer. But I guess that's why it can masquerade as a burger so well.

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    12. Re:Seems pretty smart by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

      What's a little stupid about it is that it's about as unhealthy as a regular burger. I was expecting it to be healthier, maybe have some fiber and less fat, but it's just slightly fewer calories and just as fatty.

      Putting aside the fact that the "fat is BAD, mkay?" movement died a richly deserved death some time ago, Impossible's most recent recipe has 240 calories, 3 grams of fiber, and a lot less sodium than the original. It'll be interesting to see if they really were able to hold the line on flavor/texture/etc.

    13. Re:Seems pretty smart by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the info! I'm guessing I've had the new recipe, since I had one last week. It's clear that I've only seen the old nutrition information, and I didn't realize that they changed recipes.

      The one I had last week was plenty burger enough for me to ask the waitress to make sure I got the right thing. If that was the one with 50 less calories, a bit less saturated fat, less sodium, and some fiber, sign me up. That was a decent burger.

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    14. Re:Seems pretty smart by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      hannafords supermarket has it, its been there over a years now. its kept right with the real ground beef too

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    15. Re:Seems pretty smart by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's a little stupid about it is that it's about as unhealthy as a regular burger. I was expecting it to be healthier, maybe have some fiber and less fat, but it's just slightly fewer calories and just as fatty. Better for the earth, but not all that much better for consumer. But I guess that's why it can masquerade as a burger so well.

      It's basically just better for the earth. To do otherwise you end up with flavorless pieces of cardboard that no one likes.

      And honestly, there's nothing wrong with it not being "healthier" than beef - it's like diet soda - it just feels healthier but isn't.

      Though, to be honest, the saturated fat debate is back in the open again - at least with respect to dairy based fats (butter is in again).

      I see veggie burgers as a way of not consuming so much planet resources eating something that's still bad for me, but tastes good. Slightly less guilt.

    16. Re:Seems pretty smart by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      What's a little stupid about it is that it's about as unhealthy as a regular burger. I was expecting it to be healthier, maybe have some fiber and less fat, but it's just slightly fewer calories and just as fatty. Better for the earth, but not all that much better for consumer.

      No, it was designed to make bigger profits using cheaper ingredients and a nice story about how you'll save the earth and your health so you're willing to pay more.

    17. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not guilt, it's giving a shit about the planet we live on.

    18. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically it wasn't any healthier for you than a beef burger, it was just made from plants to assuage the guilt of vegetarians.

      You do know that that not all people become vegetarians because they are sorry for Bambi right?

    19. Re:Seems pretty smart by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that saturated fat is unhealthy?

      Maybe you haven't noticed that that was 1950s science which was heavily flawed and we have moved on since then.

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    20. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see it at Sprout's in the frozen "meat" section.

    21. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tastes like cabbage ... texture like brocoli ... gas like rhubarb ... what's not to like about cow ?

    22. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though, to be honest, the saturated fat debate is back in the open again - at least with respect to dairy based fats (butter is in again).

      Among fat-ass programers with one hand on the keyboard and another in a bag of kettle chips, perhaps. OR among "paleo" sleaze-merchants trying to sell you the latest fad diet.

      Among serious dieticians and nutritionists (i.e. ones with medical degrees and hard data on their side), saturated fat is just as bad for you as it has ever been. And that includes the saturated fats found in "healthy" avocados and coconut milk, neither of which are "good" for you in any meaningful sense of the word.

    23. Re:Seems pretty smart by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Except of course if you have half a brain or more. I prefer by burger to be labelled, so I know what it is made of, plant fibre is insufficient for sound decision making. My choice would be a Lentil burger, more expensive than soy bean animal fodder that people should not eat until chemical treated and then only in limited quantities. Lentils are a pretty neutral nutty flavour and just carry the flavours you ad to it. Lentils yes, and Soy absolutely not and they just push the bullshit soyvertisment lies to sell it.

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    24. Re:Seems pretty smart by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      I'm still not sure if I would like the Impossible Burger as much as a real hamburger.

      The only way to determine this is to try it, obviously. I'm a fan of meat, and beef and burgers in particular, but I've noticed that reviews of the new generation of Impossible Burger have been pretty fantastic. People seem pretty amazed that they have finally been able to replicate the texture, look, and browning of ground beef fairly well now, in addition to the taste. You might not mistake it for real beef yet but they're getting close.

      I've tried plenty of veggie burgers and various meat substitutes, and while some of them are legitimately pretty tasty, none of them are perfect beef substitutes. That has begun to change, and I can see fake meat getting even better in the near future and beginning to replace real meat even for people who aren't willing to give up tasty cows over ethical or environmental concerns. This could actually go over very well with burgers that are aggressively topped or dressed, like a BK Whopper. Add cheese, mayo, ketchup, pickles, onion, etc., whatever you like, and the more you add on the less important the "meat" becomes. Hell, McDonalds manages to sell billions of terrible burgers made of actual beef, so the sky's the limit for good beef substitutes.

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    25. Re:Seems pretty smart by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Putting aside the fact that the "fat is BAD, mkay?" movement died a richly deserved death some time ago, Impossible's most recent recipe has 240 calories, 3 grams of fiber, and a lot less sodium than the original. It'll be interesting to see if they really were able to hold the line on flavor/texture/etc.

      I haven't tried the new version yet, but the reports I've read claim that it is much closer to real beef in taste, appearance, and texture. The reviews I've seen pretty much indicate that it is ready for mass market roll out, and can stand up to just about any fastfood burger. That sounds like a big jump to me, and at least a couple of reviewers acknowledged that previous iterations were lacking, so I'm very curious to try the new stuff. It actually does look like meat as it cooks, with the initial color, the "bleeding," and the browning. I'd like to try one plain and one loaded with toppings and judge for myself.

      Somehow they've managed to improve the subjective quality of their product while slightly lowering the calories, fat, saturated fat, sodium, protein, and net carbs, all at once. If they did indeed get close on appearance and texture, the flavor and price will be the only questions. Get those right and there's no reason the masses won't eat tons of them. This is particularly interesting to me because I've been limiting my carb intake (with great success), and most meat substitutes are pretty carbohydrate-laden. I'm not really interested in going vegan, but it would be nice to be able to eat a ketogenic diet with fewer animal products.

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    26. Re:Seems pretty smart by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      These were better than the mass-produced fast food beef hamburgers I've eaten.

      Is that like saying drinking pee tastes better than drinking purified vinegar? The bar is set low.

    27. Re:Seems pretty smart by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      It's pretty good. A local bar here has been serving them for about a year (I volunteered to beta test before it officially went on the menu there). The catch I've found is that you have to be VERY careful not to either over or undercook it. If it's undercooked then it's pretty "wet" and falls apart... it also completely fails at the "convincing beef burger" thing because the texture is all wrong. Overcooked it's definitely too dry and far too much like a fast food patty. When cooked exactly right the taste is "not quite beef but pretty damn close", while the texture to me is mostly convincing except that it reminds me a little of the texture of eating cooked kidney beans. Not quite beef, but not quite not.

      Still, it's become a reasonably regular order for me on a wheat bun with no cheese (plus pickles, tomato and lettuce) and to me that's actually pretty good and reasonably healthy. Combined with some sauteed brussels sprouts and you've got a decent post-workout dinner (the bar in question happens to be across the street from my gym... convenient if not always the healthiest option).

      I don't always eat vegetarian. I often do when I travel for work because it's a lot easier for calorie control when eating at random restaurants (you'll typically get full before you hit 2000 calories in a day... meat is VERY calorie dense) but as I get older I find myself gravitating more toward good vegetarian options in restaurants. When at home though I love me a good slab of steak :)

    28. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These were better than the mass-produced fast food beef hamburgers I've eaten.

      Yes, they cheat to make them edible. Morningstar Farms (not related to The Dawn Star/The Morning Star/Satan) makes breakfast patties that are vegan friendly. These patties are delicious, you can fry up a few bags and eat them in front of Netflix instead of chips. They are yummy because they are made out of grease, sugar, and spices/salt. Of course once you read the box after eating then you will see that you accidentally ate 8000 cal as a "snack".. When it comes to packing calories/energy into something Morningstar beats out Alfred Nobel.

      Also it depends on what you call "fast food". Generic veggie burgers cannot compete with Burger Jones (no one competes with Burger Jones) or 5 Guys or Smash Burger or Fudruckers (a whole buffet of toppings including nacho cheese) ... Or Culvers or.. well you get the idea. Your veggie burger will compete against bottom of the barrel fast food, Burger King, McDonalds, Hardees (carl's Jr), White Castle, etc.

    29. Re:Seems pretty smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh neat, agro-industry backed keto talking points.

      https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/seven-reasons-keep-saturated-fat-your-plate

  3. In before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the cacophony of crybabies

  4. Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why start it in St. Louis of all places? As someone who has lived in practically every state, I can think of dozens of better starting markets than STL for this type of thing.

    1. Re:Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it doesn't sell in middle-america, they're not going to roll it out nation-wide.

    2. Re:Huh by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      As a resident of St. Louis I can tell you that we seem to get a lot of the "test" foods from companies like this. I'm not going to try to suppose the exact reason but we *do* have a pretty solid foodie scene (and some amazing restaurants). The Impossible Burger has actually been available here for a while from a number of restaurants around town so that might have affected that decision too.

      Though I have a suspicion that on average it's because someone right-handed throwing a dart at a map of the USA is statistically going to land closest to St. Louis when aiming at the middle...

  5. Vegetarian-friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vegetarian-friendly?
    Cow-friendly.

    1. Re:Vegetarian-friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      carbon-footprint friendly. they should advertise it that way, too

    2. Re:Vegetarian-friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, if we stop using cattle for food, then we will see a dramatic decline in the population of cattle.
      The entire species may be abandoned if we develop a suitable replacement for dairy products as well.

    3. Re: Vegetarian-friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like cats and dogs.....

  6. Wendy's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news Wendy's is relaunching it's "Where's the beef?" campaign.

    1. Re:Wendy's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nowadays the problem isn't that it's too small. The problem is that it's hard to distinguish the beef from the antibiotics, steroids, and filler material.

    2. Re: Wendy's by c6gunner · · Score: 0

      It's hard to distinguish people who seriously believe that shit from those who are just trolling.

    3. Re:Wendy's by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      In other news Wendy's is relaunching it's "Where's the beef?" campaign.

      They should just go back to the days when getting a meal at Wendy's didn't set you back close to ten bucks. Their food isn't horrible, but sorry, I can't stomach their prices anymore.

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    4. Re: Wendy's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you just arrived from Zambia, you must be aware that American cows are pumped full of antibiotics and steroids. And do you really have a hard time believing that an American fast food burger contains filler material?

    5. Re: Wendy's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know why you assume that a person from Zambia would not be exposed to such propaganda. I find that people in third world countries believe all kinds of stupid shit about the USA, almost as much as the home-grown nutters.

  7. Beyond Meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A&W did it first with their Beyond Meat.

    1. Re:Beyond Meat by Wulf2k · · Score: 1

      Is Beyond Meat the same thing as this Impossible Burger?

      I had a half price coupon for one of A&W's Beyond Meat sausage muffin things.

      It had an incredibly distracting flavour that was in no way pleasant. I couldn't actually identify what the offending flavour was, because it didn't taste like food.

      I'm not sure if that's what they all taste like or if they've just screwed up their sausage non-mc-muffins, but it didn't give me much hope for the meatless meat concept.

    2. Re:Beyond Meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A&W did it first with their Beyond Meat.

      A&W's Beyond Meat burger tastes OK to me. It's not a premium burger by any stretch, but it is passable.

    3. Re:Beyond Meat by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Is Beyond Meat the same thing as this Impossible Burger?

      Yes and No. It's a competitor in the really-like-a-beef-burger-but-actually-all-vegetarian-burger market. So about the same as A&W and Stewarts?

  8. Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do White Castle burgers qualify as "meat" though? It's pretty borderline. "Gray flavor microdiscs" I believe they're referred to in the nomenclature. I'd try an impossible burger over White Castle "meat" any day.

    Another question, does BK spray their 10 million dollar proprietary pheromone chemical bath all over the impossible burger also, just like their burgers, fries, salads and everything else?

    Fucking disgusting. Fast food eaters are chemically addicted morons, IDGAF what the convenient excuse is.

    1. Re:Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've only had White Castle once and it was pretty nasty, and honestly Burger King hasn't been edible for about 10 years. I'm guessing the pheromones you mention are the weird smell the whole place has now? Kind of malty fear? Sonic has gotten really nasty too, and I recall them having had a pretty good burger once. I've pretty much stopped going to all of them except Wendy's (adequate chili if I don't have any made), Chick Fil A (great nuggets), and Wawa (best sandwiches if you're on the road).

    2. Re:Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by fat+man's+underwear · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you're just 10 years older now. I don't think anything has changed in the fast food business.

    3. Re:Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Author of the article (Amelia Lucas) seems to be about 10 years old, LOL

    4. Re:Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before the mid-90s, Burger Kings in my area (at least) made burgers to order, fresh off the grilling machines. Then, all of the ones in my area at least started pre-cooking them and never serving one fresh off the grill; instead, they always came out of the cooler and were fresh out of the microwave. I don't know when other areas made the change, but since then, I haven't been able to get a real Whopper at any BK across the country. It's always fresh out of the microwave, tasting, looking, and feeling like shit. To make matters worse, prices have tripled since then, unless you want "chicken nuggets".

    5. Re: Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wendy's chili is made from the old burgers they didn't sell the days before you ordered it.
      They don't throw that shit away

    6. Re:Fast food sucks, chains suck, garbage culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfft, Wawa. Sheetz's sandwiches and other food items are far superior, which is why they are pushing Wawa out of much of their traditional territory in central and SE PA.
         

  9. Carl's Jr. has had one on sale for months by rminsk · · Score: 2

    Carl's Jr. has had one on sale for months https://www.carlsjr.com/beyond...

    1. Re:Carl's Jr. has had one on sale for months by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      Well the article did specify it was the first national chain to offer the _Impossible_ burger, while Carl's Jr has the Beyond burger. Obviously the phrasing used is intentionally very specific since other national chains already have the Beyond burger and other non-national chains already have the Impossible burger, but what else do you expect from a PR release intended to build hype?

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    2. Re:Carl's Jr. has had one on sale for months by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      At a higher cost.

      I'm puzzled why plant based meat substitute costs more than beef.

      Beef is a very inefficient food to produce.

  10. Re:IT'S THE LYING, BORING LYING FAGGOT KEN DOLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) I think you have the wrong thread, as this obviously does not belong here, and 2) Objectively and factually speaking, there was multiple investigations. Named witnesses of the accuser said it didn't happen, and no evidence that it had happened was actually found, therefore it comes down to he-said, she-said, and it's wrong to go after anyone with just. Also, at least two other accusers were found to be complete frauds.

  11. Old news? by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    Maybe my area was a test region, but BK has had the impossible burger here for awhile. Wife and I are vegetarian, both tried it, and it's... ok. The Burgerville anasazi bean burger tastes better, in my opinion. Unfortunately, that item is no longer available at Burgerville.

    Again in my opinion, the impossible burger tries too hard to be meat, and has an artificial "grilled" taste that lingers in the mouth like old grease. I'll eat it if I'm on a trip, in a hurry, hungry, and there's a BK drive-thru close by. But I'm not sure I'd seek it out.

    In other news, Del Taco is testing Beyond Burger crumbles as a meatless alternative in the LA area. They're supposed to go national later this year. We're planning to try it when it comes to Oregon, but only as a curiosity. They already have items a lacto-ovo can eat.

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    1. Re:Old news? by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      Again in my opinion, the impossible burger tries too hard to be meat, and has an artificial "grilled" taste that lingers in the mouth like old grease.

      I didn't find it artificial tasting. It does indeed try very hard to be meat, however, and largely succeeds at that. This isn't a burger for vegans, it's a burger for meat eaters.

      If you don't like or normally don't eat meat, you won't like the Impossible burger.

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    2. Re:Old news? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with you -- it's possible to make tasty veggie patties, but non-meat pretending to be meat is always an abomination, in my personal experience. And then there was the "Vegetarian Turkey Tetrazinni" I saw at the health food store... IT CAN'T BE BOTH!!!

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    3. Re:Old news? by orange_6 · · Score: 1

      Ugh, I got sick of BVs selection a long time ago. If you're not in the valley, the burgers tend to sit around and get freezer burned.

      Our local drive through serves Chez Gourmet patties (out of Wilsonville, iirc), which are much much much better. Not as good as Impossible/Beyond, but at least I can eat them without chipping a tooth.

      Seriously though, hoping this isn't an April Fools' thing....

    4. Re:Old news? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 2

      I'll second that. As a vegan I find that most "meat substitutes" tend to gross me out not by being too little like my now-decades-old recollection of what rotting animal carcasses used to taste like, but too much. My preference is for foods that fill the role of meat (high protein, chewy texture, umami, etc.) but for me it is an advantage if they do *not* resemble dead animals any more than they must.

    5. Re:Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If your eating of meat consisted of eating rotting animal carcasses, I can see why you turned vegan.

    6. Re:Old news? by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      I'm a little curious - what are your go-tos for those sorts of foods? It's obviously not most tofu available in grocery stores.

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    7. Re:Old news? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Again in my opinion, the impossible burger tries too hard to be meat, and has an artificial "grilled" taste that lingers in the mouth like old grease.

      If it didn't have that, it wouldn't taste like a Whopper(tm). Whoppers have fake grilling flavor added to them. If I eat one for lunch, I am still burping up whopper flavor at dinner. I used to go to one of the last BKs that used fire, on 41st ave. in Capitola, and they were my favorite fast food burger by a wide margin. But then they stopped using fire like everyone else, and the whopper was no longer worth eating.

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    8. Re:Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't live in St Louis (the ONLY test market), then the veggie burgers you are getting are just regular Morningstar Farms veggie patties, which are available at all U.S. BK locations, NOT Impossible burgers. Since you say you are in Oregon, then the MFs are what you have tried.

    9. Re:Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "as a vegan"
      Why create so many problems for yourself?

    10. Re:Old news? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      For me it is mostly soy, seitan, and beans.

    11. Re:Old news? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      If you don't live in St Louis (the ONLY test market), then the veggie burgers you are getting are just regular Morningstar Farms veggie patties, which are available at all U.S. BK locations, NOT Impossible burgers. Since you say you are in Oregon, then the MFs are what you have tried.

      I'm sorry that can't be true. (a) We buy Morningstar Farms veggie patties on occasion, and we know what they look and taste like. These are not they. (b) Not having seen the box, I can't positively say what they *are* using, but they *say* they're impossible burgers.

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  12. Burgers don't bleed by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ingredient is also responsible for giving the patty red juices that make it look like it's bleeding, just like a piece of beef.

    You can eat steak rare, but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe, when you grind meat, exterior parts of meat covered in bacteria get pushed to the inside and cooking rare doesn't kill them off. If anyone sold bleeding hamburgers that were real meat- I would worry.

    Please, feel free to eat your steaks rare as that's enough to kill off the bacteria on the surface... just don't eat burgers rare.

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    1. Re:Burgers don't bleed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Life is way too short not to enjoy it.

    2. Re: Burgers don't bleed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is steak tartare ok?

    3. Re:Burgers don't bleed by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      You can eat steak rare, but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe,

      Life isn't safe, but it can be delicious (metaphorically speaking).

      #TeamMediumRare

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    4. Re: Burgers don't bleed by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Only if you do it the old-fashioned way: put it under your saddle and ride on it all day to tenderize it! Mmmmm!

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    5. Re: Burgers don't bleed by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Generally, yes, it's as safe as any other raw meat dish (e.g. carpaccio, sushi/sashimi, etc.). Provided it's prepared in a sanitary manner from cows that are free of parasites, the likelihood of contracting something is incredibly low.

      As the OP said, the concern with ground beef is that you're taking all of the bacteria that landed on the exterior of the cut during the shipping and handling processes up to that point and then pushing that bacteria into the interior. As a result, you need to cook ground meat through-and-through to be sure that it's safe for consumption.

      In contrast, tartar should be made from meat that hasn't been exposed (i.e. it was kept clean or they cut away the potentially-contaminated exterior before mincing the clean interior), so if you're comfortable with the notion of eating the interior of a rare steak, you really shouldn't have any reservations about eating steak tartar, at least from a food safety perspective.

    6. Re:Burgers don't bleed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can eat steak rare, but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe, when you grind meat, exterior parts of meat covered in bacteria get pushed to the inside and cooking rare doesn't kill them off. If anyone sold bleeding hamburgers that were real meat- I would worry.

      Please, feel free to eat your steaks rare as that's enough to kill off the bacteria on the surface... just don't eat burgers rare.

      So I guess you're not a fan of the Wisconsin delicacy known as the cannibal sandwich?

      They are safe as any food can be as long as you use high-grade meat fresh ground from a reliable butcher. However, if you make them using prepackaged ground beef from the local grocery store, then what you say is spot on.

    7. Re:Burgers don't bleed by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      You can eat steak rare, but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe, when you grind meat, exterior parts of meat covered in bacteria get pushed to the inside and cooking rare doesn't kill them off. If anyone sold bleeding hamburgers that were real meat- I would worry.

      It is perfectly safe if you are grinding your own beef from whole cuts of beef.

      that way, you control the conditions, no fillers, and no mixing of meats for God knows where and what quality.

      Tastier and more tender too!!

      Definitely worth buying a quality, heavy duty grinder for.

      Makes for great sausage making too...and fun for a weekend project.

      LEM makes good, reasonably priced Meat Grinders ...

      I'd have to go look at mine, but I think I have the .5HB or the .75HP, and it is more than powerful enough.

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    8. Re:Burgers don't bleed by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      > but you should never eat ground beef rare

      Not traditionally cooked, no. But I do love a rare burger that I've cooked via sous vide for an hour. All of the taste, none of the bacteria.

    9. Re:Burgers don't bleed by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      There are restaurants that make burgers the same way they make things like tartare. You can eat those rare.

      You should never eat random ground meat you get at the supermarket anything other than cooked through.

    10. Re: Burgers don't bleed by guruevi · · Score: 2

      Steak tartare typically also gets added spices and some type of pH modifier (typically pickled something, raw onions etc).

      What the guy above says is bullshit, you can eat rare meats (even pork and chicken to some extent can have some pink) as long as you know it's sourced and handled properly and heated through unless you have some form of high risk due to medical reasons, your stomach acid should kill any remaining bacteria.

      Obviously, Wal-Mart grade beef that has a sheen to it I wouldn't eat raw either.

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    11. Re:Burgers don't bleed by m-kirkcaldie · · Score: 1

      Fun fact: the pink juices which come out of rare meat are not blood. They are the cell contents of the muscle fibres, which have their own pink substance to hold oxygen, called myoglobin. It has a heme group just like hemoglobin so it's reddish, but it's not blood.

    12. Re:Burgers don't bleed by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      You can eat steak rare, but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe, when you grind meat, exterior parts of meat covered in bacteria get pushed to the inside and cooking rare doesn't kill them off. If anyone sold bleeding hamburgers that were real meat- I would worry.

      Please, feel free to eat your steaks rare as that's enough to kill off the bacteria on the surface... just don't eat burgers rare.

      They mean bleeding while it cooks, duh, although plenty of people eat undercooked burgers all the time, however inadvisable that is. The game changer with the new version Impossible Burger, at least versus competing beef substitutes, is the flavor and the browning - they taste pretty much like beef and you can get a proper texture and "crust" on the outside, neither of which are there with most soy-based pretenders.

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    13. Re:Burgers don't bleed by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      but you should never eat ground beef rare: It's not at all safe

      You must be an American. In much of the rest of the world we cook our hamburgers medium rare. That's on those occasions where we actually bother cooking the meat.

      Otherwise we just make: https://www.chefsteps.com/acti...
      Or just spread it on bread without cooking it: https://kokrobin.wordpress.com...
      Also why bother cooking the steak when you can just cut it and eat it with some Rucola: https://thecookful.com/make-be...

      How do you handle your meat that makes you so afraid to eat it?

  13. Chasing Carl's Jr? by kevmeister · · Score: 1

    Carl's Jr./Hardee's has been heavily advertising their meatless "Beyond" burger or several very annoying weeks. Beyond Meats announced the Carl's Jr. deal in January. White Castle (much smaller) has been serving Impossible burgers for some time. Seems like this a Burger King ballyhooing what is really just "me too".

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    1. Re:Chasing Carl's Jr? by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

      Tried Carl Jr's beyond burger. Not bad. However $9.99 for a double burger is way too much. Come on people the veggie burger should cost less than a meat burger.

    2. Re:Chasing Carl's Jr? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on people the veggie burger should cost less than a meat burger.

      Not likely. It isn't like it's just made of out cornmeal.

    3. Re:Chasing Carl's Jr? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Tried Carl Jr's beyond burger. Not bad. However $9.99 for a double burger is way too much. Come on people the veggie burger should cost less than a meat burger.

      If they want it to catch on, yes, they need to get the pricing down to the same level as for beef burgers. But if you think the production costs should necessarily be less, you simply don't know what you're talking about. These aren't like the Original Gardenburger, for instance, which is a bunch of rice, soy, mushrooms, etc., just smashed together.

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  14. Never got the appeal by anarcobra · · Score: 1

    If you don't want to eat meat, why not just eat vegetables instead of highly processed vegetable protein made to look and taste like meat through additives?

    1. Re:Never got the appeal by dnwheeler · · Score: 2

      Because meat tastes good! Personally, I have no problem eating meat, but the Impossible Burger is a really good substitute for those who want to avoid meat for any reason. I've only had one at a "gourmet" burger place, so I'm not sure how the fast food versions compare.

    2. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to eat meat, why not just eat vegetables instead of highly processed vegetable protein made to look and taste like meat through additives?

      Meat was a part of my diet for nearly thirty years.

      It's over a decade now since I went veg, and while my appetite for pseudo-meat has certainly fallen over the last few years once in a while I have a craving for something meat-like. Sometime it's nostalgia for something my grandmother used to cook, or a craving for salt and fat and protein in a ratio and with a flavor and texture that was etched into my brain early on, or just appreciating the cultural "normalness" of a burger and being able to indulge in one without running afoul of the things that made me go veg to begin with.

      Haven't tried an impossible burger, but beyond meat's burgers (and sausages) are pretty excellent. My personal holy grail for fake meat would be chicken wings– best substitute I've found for that is vegetable pakora dipped in hot sauce and blue cheese.

    3. Re:Never got the appeal by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to eat meat, why not just eat vegetables instead of highly processed vegetable protein made to look and taste like meat through additives?

      That is what I do. I am a veggie, and my favorite burger is the GardenBurger which doesn't even try to taste like meat.

    4. Re:Never got the appeal by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      What exactly do you mean by "processed?" That word is the universal luddite excuse for "I'm afraid of this because new and because science involved somehow."

    5. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also why would vegetarians want their veggie burger to taste like meat anyway? If they wanted the taste of meat they'd just eat meat. This is really just a ploy to try an convert people with imitation food.

    6. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it's mostly for vegan types.

    7. Re:Never got the appeal by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Sometimes I want a burger. Specifically, I want the taste of a burger, but I don't always feel like dropping a greasy hunk of burger into my stomach.

      Previously, my go-to was a spicy black bean patty with bacon on it. Bun, spicy beans, lettuce, pico, bacon. Not quite a hamburger, but damn tasty. Fits the bill decently when I don't want something so heavy.

      Now I've got a new option. I can get a patty that's like 100 calories less than a typical burger, but which looks and tastes like a burger, and fills that "I want a burger but not a food coma" hole. I got one last week, and it was pretty much identical to a normal burger. However, 5 hrs later I was hungry again, and I never got that greasy full feeling you can get when you pound too much ground beef.

      If you're an environmentalist, you know livestock are bad for the planet. If you can't give up your burger, now you've got an option to choose a more friendly one.

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    8. Re:Never got the appeal by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      It sticks to your ribs a lot better.

    9. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf? I love meat and chicken wings are vile.

    10. Re:Never got the appeal by anarcobra · · Score: 1

      Processed food is a fairly common colloquial term for ready to eat type prepared foods. Maybe look up tertiary food processing.
      Nothing to do with fear or luddites. Technology is involved in most food production.
      It's a descriptor of what it is. Just like crabsticks are processed food.
      Everything to do with wanting to know and control what exactly I am eating.

    11. Re:Never got the appeal by anarcobra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > "I want a burger but not a food coma"
      My advice would be to eat a smaller burger, but that's just me.

    12. Re:Never got the appeal by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Aaah, yes, how could I forget that step? I was just automatically ordering a Venti when I could have just ordered a Short!

      Tell me, when was the last time you went into a restaurant and ordered a small burger, and they accommodated you? Is that common where you live? Because it's not common anywhere I've lived.

      Most places do not offer burgers of different sizes. I've been to a few places where you could order x number of patties stacked on the burger, but that's about it. In any non-fast-food restaurant, even that's not common. And who wants a bunch of thin, dry, overcooked patties anyway? A big, thick, juicy patty pink in the middle is where it's at.

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    13. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything is processed. Just slicing vegetables is processing them.

    14. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a vegetarian as well. Tried the garden burger, while it doesn't try to be a real burger, it also doesn't try real hard to be much more than a soy patty. Blech!

      Red Robin surprisingly has a new veggie burger that doesn't try to be meat and tastes good too! They used to serve Boca Burgers, which tasted rather like card board.

    15. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to eat meat why aren't you eating it raw off the bone? Why does it need to be processed into a patty and cooked?

    16. Re:Never got the appeal by mschuyler · · Score: 1

      I know this is hard to believe, but if the meal you are served is too large, you don't have to eat the whole thing.

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    17. Re:Never got the appeal by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Are you dumb? Hamburgers taste good, that's why.

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    18. Re:Never got the appeal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this is hard to believe, but if the meal you are served is too large, you don't have to eat the whole thing.

      What type of witchcraft is this?!?

  15. Ditto Taco Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone really think that Taco Bell is serving actual hamburger meat? It's more or less akin to a cat food pate with taco-like flavouring. They take about 10-12 base ingredients and make the entire menu. Ever notice that almost everything tastes identical? The only burgers worth eating are Five Guys, Wendy's (gone downhill IME), Fuddrucker's, and one's you can make at home with Black Angus you buy yourself.

    Anymore, about the only pizza I like is Little Caeser's thin crust pepperoni. Fast food has really taken a nose dive over the years. No one does a decent fish sandwich anymore, which is arguably my favourite sandwich.

    1. Re:Ditto Taco Bell by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Taco Bell's target audience is stoned people with midnight munchies... why would real food be required to serve that market?

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    2. Re:Ditto Taco Bell by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Taco bell serves Old Roy brand wet 'beef' dog food as beef. Or at least something that smells _exactly_ the same (plus the smell of taco bell meat spice).

      It was sort of a 'guilty pleasure'. Then I went there after feeding my dogs those cans, the smell of dog food hit me in the face as I walked in. Now I can't eat it, even if I wanted to.

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    3. Re:Ditto Taco Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taco Bell...it's cheaper than food!

  16. DON'T YOU EVER FORGET Soylent Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Made From PEOPLE! They tell you it's from the sea, but it's a lie. A Trumpian lie. It's made from people!

    1. Re:DON'T YOU EVER FORGET Soylent Green by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Those eggs were a lie, Steven! A lie! They give me no superpowers! They give me no nutrients!"

    2. Re:DON'T YOU EVER FORGET Soylent Green by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      A Human Burger hitting the market would be a huge step in the right direction,in multiple ways. It would surely cook up nice, and would probably taste good, as well helping with our population problem.

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  17. Had An Impossible Burger, They're Pretty Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've had an Impossible Burger. I'm not a vegetarian and I don't have a problem with eating meat. Just thought I'd give it a whirl. Turns out it was really good. When they say you can't tell the difference between the Impossible Burger and real ground beef, they aren't lying.

    1. Re:Had An Impossible Burger, They're Pretty Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you can't tell the difference, you've never even had a good burger.

  18. Happy April Fool's Day! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    LOL!!! In my experience, non-meat that claims to be meat is always an abomination! Mind you, i _like_ the taste of tofu, it's just that anybody that tells you they've made tofu taste like meat is LYING!

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    1. Re:Happy April Fool's Day! by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      Check the replies in this thread. A bunch of us have had the Impossible burger, and it's no joke. It's as good as any fast food burger. No, it's not going to beat a farm-to-table black angus burger stuffed with mushrooms and blue cheese, but it's more than passable for a fast food burger.

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    2. Re:Happy April Fool's Day! by anarcobra · · Score: 1

      > any fast food burger.
      Not exactly the highest of bars.

    3. Re:Happy April Fool's Day! by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      But it is what is relevant when you're talking about a fast-food burger joint.

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  19. "Shanghai" Bill is a known liar many times over. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill got caught lying 12-25 times repeatedly stating "Blood plasma is sterile" and then later that "The Chinese Govt does not directly censor Chinese citizens" and other absolute bullshit head-in-ass retard-level lies. You're not trustworthy.

    You are not a source of information that anyone should or even could trust, knowing your dishonest history. Sorry. That's what accountability means when you get caught lying repeatedly, over and over, even after directly corrected.

    You're a liar, Bill.

  20. The Problem Is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are vegan, taking burgers out of your diet shouldn't be a huge deal. If it is a huge deal, then you're not really vegan.

    These "meats" were never engineered to service the population of vegans. These "meats" were engineered to replace the current "meat" to MAKE non-vegans enjoy their vegan diet whether they like it or not. If we are celebrating this kind of shit, then we might as well off ourselves right now and save ourselves the trouble in the future.

  21. Vegetarian Burger is to Real Burger as... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 0

    Fleshlight is to pussy.

    Your turn.

    (All so, lettuce naught four get two day is Ape real fursed, sew this is probe ably bull shit.)

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    1. Re:Vegetarian Burger is to Real Burger as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, not the same, but cheaper and more convenient?

  22. The way things are going these days, by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't be surprised if they find out the heme is extracted from blood, not actually produced in a lab using plant materials.

    1. Re:The way things are going these days, by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      It's neither. They engineered yeast to produce it.

  23. It's still Vegan trash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah sure let's all eat even more artificial highly processed garbage that in this particular case isn't even going to have high-quality amino-complete proteins, but instead is deficient. Great idea. The cognitive deficit Vegans eventually suffer from must have gotten the Burger King execs.

  24. Not conclusive though by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I appreciate the info but even that article is inconclusive if this is really a problem:

    This new research was well-done and compelling, but it's too early to decide that this molecule, TMAO, causes atherosclerosis in humans or that this is responsible for some of the associations of meat intake and risk.

    It's hard to say what the risk level is, I think between the fact that I do not eat red meat all the time, and the fact that I am careful to get a significant amount of exercise every week should more than counterbalance any issues more rare beef might cause.

    I would say anecdotally there seem to be a lot of older people who eat rare beef and have no heart issues, that it's much more complex than just "don't eat rare meat".

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    1. Re:Not conclusive though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No SK, it is not new and it has been applied to humans as well as mice.

      Plain facts are that a diet that includes red meat (not raw meat, and processed meat like salami has higher content, and not even starting to talk about Monster drinks and all the other health drinks with carnitine) hurts humans

      The only people muddying the water are meat producers who do not seem to care if the products that they profit from kill their customers.

      Classic Milton Friedman business ethics there, enhancing shareholder value with no eye to the welfare of their customers

  25. Re:Unless it was guillotined... by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Prions survive cooking. Good thing everything else in your post is also wrong.

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  26. I also tried it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried an impossible burger at a place called the "Thirsty Lion."

    To me, it was awful and I couldn't even finish it.

    I hope they improve in the future.

    1. Re:I also tried it by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Depending on when you tried it, they already have improved it. There's a newer recipe.

  27. Branding by W.+Justice+Black · · Score: 1

    If they don't call this the Impossible Whopper, then they're idiots.

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  28. The Burger Hypocrite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you go vegetarian, forget burgers... A proper burger is made of beef. If you have a hunkerin' fer beef, eat beaf; if not, eat your veggies. The lamest, socially permissive food is a veggie burger (Oh, the conflicted carnivore.)

    1. Re:The Burger Hypocrite by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Shut up. Why cook or season anything, ever? Or why not just eat vitamin pills and protein isolates? People enjoy food. And you are perpetrating the lamest socially permissible (not permissive) form of communication - the intentionally anonymous, stupid comment on an internet forum.

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  29. Nope.... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    Fuck that. Real meat or get the fuck out.

    1. Re:Nope.... by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      K, byeeee!

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  30. Heme is not a protein by superxstudios · · Score: 1

    Heme is not a protein, is it a coordination complex. It can be part of a protein called a hemoprotein or hemeprotein.

  31. A&W 'Beyond Meat' burger. by darkonc · · Score: 2

    A&W in Canada has been selling a "beyond meet" burger since last year. It's not exactly like beef, but I think that it's a welcome difference from it's veggie patty. I'm fine with eating either one.

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    1. Re:A&W 'Beyond Meat' burger. by darkonc · · Score: 1

      They've also just come out with a beyond-meat type sausage patty for their breakfast menu.

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    2. Re:A&W 'Beyond Meat' burger. by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      Las time I tried a veggie burger, 13 years ago, I remember the experience being awful. Seriously, my throat closed off while trying to swallow that shit.
      From what I heard, Beyond Meat, and Impossible Burger, while still being different from beef, are signs that the industry came leaps and bounds since those years, and I am really tempted to try them.

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    3. Re:A&W 'Beyond Meat' burger. by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      That's exactly why there is so much hype surrounding the new Impossible product - it is supposed to be a lot better than their old product, and WAY closer to real beef than older and competing substitutes. Other non-meat burgers can be okay in their own right, but the ones that actually tried to imitate meat were never very good, so I can't wait to try the new Impossible one.

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  32. Grade A Meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are the only? one selling Grade A meat. lots of onions are used too. The other places might use McDonalds unfit for consumption meat that they got new FDA rules to allow cheaper meat that is cooked extra to prevent diseases... e coli.

    I believe I read it in Fast Food Nation. I won't eat that shit ever again. It might be safe but it literally has some cow shit in it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  33. Re: IT'S THE LYING, YOU LYING FAGGOT. by guruevi · · Score: 0

    The TDS is strong in this one. Mueller didn't deliver the verdict you wanted either? Must all be part of the conspiracy.

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  34. It's a trap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was created by a Vegan to get people to eat less beef. It's sort of like Christians who don't approve of pre-martial sex, but somehow discovered the "loophole" of anal.

    Personally I think it's very very weird that these vegans are trying to re-create the taste of beef without it actually being beef. They're sort of in a weird denial about humans liking the taste of meat, but they just can't resist.

  35. What chemicals are used? by endigo7050 · · Score: 1

    So it is established that it has no beef. This does not by itself make it healthy to eat. What chemistry is involved in mimicking a real hamburger? Not knowing the details is enough to keep me away. If they want to create a great tasting alternative to a hamburger, I would rather they call it "a great tasting alternative to a hamburger" or "Been Burger" or something that tells you what it is.

  36. Friendly? Not. by markdavis · · Score: 1

    >"Foods genetically engineers heme, a protein that makes the vegetarian-friendly burger taste like meat. The ingredient is also responsible for giving the patty red juices that make it look like it's bleeding, just like a piece of beef."

    That is not necessarily "vegetarian-friendly". Quite frankly, if you served that to me, and I could even eat it, I would probably throw up. Many vegetarians (and semi-vegetarians) are that way because they don't like meat- the taste or smell.

  37. Wendy's campaign: What is beef? by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1

    The new Wendy's campaign will be called "What is beef?" and show young folks enjoying the juicy faux meat burgers.

  38. Not all of us are planet huggers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care what happens to the Earth. I've got probably 50 years left tops and no children so I'm refuse to even worry about it. Not my problem.

    I do like hamburgers though. However, I also realize that cows are living creatures and every time I eat a hamburger that means somewhere a cow lived what was most likely a pretty shitty life for it. Also, it probably died pretty horribly. Give me the option of a cow-less hamburger and I'll order it seven days a week. Health/Mother Earth be damned.

    1. Re:Not all of us are planet huggers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Needs an honest tag.

    2. Re:Not all of us are planet huggers. by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2

      Eat more cows!!! If we stop eating them, think of all the cows that will never be born and will never know any life at all, however shitty. I'm Pro Cow (short)Life!

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  39. Re: IT'S THE LYING, BORING LYING FAGGOT KEN DOLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care what kendoll said that one time.
    It's the whole kendoll history that makes one think what a stupid faggot this person is.
    I defend people here sometimes .
    Not kendoll
    Super Kendall= head up the ass

  40. Poison Ivy burgers by havana9 · · Score: 1

    Poison Ivy burger are an Italian food, it's not vegan due the eggs used. Was a food for poor people, but it's nice as a side dish. Similar recipes are with rape leaves, spinaches, borage and so on.
    It's also a nice recycling method of recycle weeds instead to throw away or burn them.

    1. Re:Poison Ivy burgers by havana9 · · Score: 1

      Not poison ivy, but nettle if you have noticed. This one to be clear

  41. McLean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I miss McDonald's McLean Deluxe. It was not at all vegetarian. But the McLean used seaweed extract as a filler to offset some of the meat while keeping the burger juicy and with presumably less fat. McLean Deluxe was a "pretty good" burger, as compared to the rest of McDonald's menu. It's a shame they discontinued it.

  42. Gross by maxbuzz · · Score: 0

    Just gross