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Measles Cases Top Last Year's Total
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Wall Street Journal: So far this year there have been 387 confirmed U.S. measles cases, more than 2018's full-year total and the second-largest number since the disease was declared eliminated in 2000 (Warning: source paywalled; alternative source), according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The disease has spread to 15 states in 2019, with six continuing outbreaks of three or more cases each in Washington, New York, New Jersey and California. The development has sparked new policies aimed at boosting inoculation and curbing misinformation about the measles vaccine.
Measles cases have has risen since 2000 as infected travelers bring the disease to the U.S. Those travelers -- unvaccinated foreign nationals or Americans who become infected abroad -- have spread the highly contagious disease to others in the U.S. who aren't vaccinated or hadn't previously had measles. These cases have fueled outbreaks in communities where large numbers of people haven't been inoculated because of personal or religious exemptions to the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine. The largest growth in infections since measles was eliminated totaled 23 outbreaks and 667 cases in 2014. Last year there were 17 outbreaks and 372 confirmed cases. The number of cases in 2019 could increase in the coming months. Measles is a seasonal disease, with cases rising in late winter and early spring in temperate climates, according to the World Health Organization.
Measles cases have has risen since 2000 as infected travelers bring the disease to the U.S. Those travelers -- unvaccinated foreign nationals or Americans who become infected abroad -- have spread the highly contagious disease to others in the U.S. who aren't vaccinated or hadn't previously had measles. These cases have fueled outbreaks in communities where large numbers of people haven't been inoculated because of personal or religious exemptions to the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine. The largest growth in infections since measles was eliminated totaled 23 outbreaks and 667 cases in 2014. Last year there were 17 outbreaks and 372 confirmed cases. The number of cases in 2019 could increase in the coming months. Measles is a seasonal disease, with cases rising in late winter and early spring in temperate climates, according to the World Health Organization.
There is something really wrong with people who don't vaccinate. I don't know what it is exactly, but they are not seeing the world clearly.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Not fake news
The outbreaks in clark county Washington only a couple were vaccinated. It was reported in the local and national news.
This latest outbreak is going to jump start more laws to stop this stupid crap. If you go to a public school I want no exceptions to MMR and DPT except medical ones. Don't like it? Pay for a private school that doesn't care. If that doesn't work, we need to stop the un-vaccinated from going into public places like grocery stores.
Lets clamp down on these jackasses until they can't live in the society without getting the vaccine, or all go live on their own private island.
When an child doesn't have their proper vaccinations and gets a disease that they should be vaccinated against, we need have children's aid take custody of all their kids and send the parents to prison for a very harsh sentence. The charge can be failing to provide the necessities of life. In Canada (where I am), that carries a 5 year sentence. That's a good starting point but I think the US can do better. Life would be good.
This shit just makes me shake my head....all the work and effort and time and money that went into developing vaccines, and these ninnies won't use them.
And it's all because discredited former British doctor (Andrew Wakefield) published a bullshit medical paper claiming that vaccines were unsafe. That's all it took- the morons and dumbshits ate it up and stopped vaccinating their children.
Now we have measles epidemics again, yay.
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I would, but it's not right to make fun of somebody so mentally disabled.
Most cases are spread by returning unvaccinated travellers, sorry to ruin your dog whistle.
In the context of Darwinism, those who refuse to vaccinate their children (and those who associate with such people) are unfit when it comes to genetic survival. I'm not saying it will be fast or clean but ultimately, this problem will solve itself.
If people don't wise up, I'm pretty sure there will be revenge killing where parents who refused to vaccinate their child are killed by the relatives of a child who died as a result. This could also result in possible sociological solution where doctors enable others to vaccinate children of anti-vaxxers on their own accord. Rights and laws are only honored when they make sense to the general public.
You humans are really silly. You solve a problem and then somehow make it a problem again.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Who is getting swindled? Are people paying big fees to increase their IQ? Are they joining expensive clubs like Mensa, and then hit with annual dues that they must pay because you can't quit the club?
Also, it is a bit like saying "Height is a swindle." We like to measure things. Yes, IQ is measured by a battery of questions that are limited to a person's ability to recognize patterns or otherwise "see" things that fall into patterns... what makes this "pseudoscientific"? The results of a population of people fall along a bell-shaped curve, with most people in the middle. Most people consistently fall in a certain area of the curve. Where is the swindle? Is it a swindle to point out that different people perform differently on the test? Is it a swindle to find correlations between economic or social factors and how people do on the test? Shhhh! Don't talk about people being different!
Chemicals, eh? Wait until you realize your body is full of poisonous chemicals that your own body created. Hormones, too.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Russia Madcow has been pushing a stupid conspiracy theory for almost three years on MSNBC. Whereas people who call BS on crap like false flags in Syria or a DNC worker being shot twice in a robbery where nothing is taken are smeared as "conspiracy theorists".
Water is toxic. Please stop ingesting it.
Your reading comprehension is non-existent, so there's no hope for a resurgence. Elimination is defined by region, not world-wide. The cases in the US spread from people who came from outside the US.
Just put it into our water lol...
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Some Aussies looked into the reasons last year.
In order of magnitude, antivaccination attitudes were highest among those who
(a) were high in conspiratorial thinking
(b) were high in reactance
(c) reported high levels of disgust toward blood and needles
(d) had strong individualistic/hierarchical worldviews.
In contrast, demographic variables (including education) accounted for nonsignificant or trivial levels of variance.
The Psychological Roots of Anti-Vaccination Attitudes: A 24-Nation Investigation, Hornsey, M. J., Harris, E. A., & Fielding, K. S. Health Psychology (2018)
I don't know what you can do with that, but that's what's wrong with them: Conspriacy theorists who are bolshie, but not from any particular education level or demographic group.
But why, pray tell, do you think the death count from measles are so low?
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Measles was eliminated in the United States in 2000. Unless you're going to quarantine the US completely (close all borders, no one gets in or out) you're going to have people getting exposed. Vaccines are the only practical way to prevent it from spreading.
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Can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. You can deluge anti-vaxxers with an exceptionally polite list of facts and research and it just makes them dig in even more. So what do you do with people that can't be reasoned with?
1) Mocking. The Daily Show had on the lunar conspiracy theorist who got decked by Buzz Aldrin, after he hounded the retired astronaut, accusing him of being a liar and a cheat. After playing the clip of the theorist getting punched, the "reporter" "pointed out" that it looked fake.
2) Give them so much shit in public, all the time every time, that they voluntarily stfu.
Even that won't work, if there's an animal reservoir and/or vector for the disease. That's why it's impossible to completely eradicate bubonic plague, for example.
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
It kind of does if the animals are also vaccinated.
That's how Belgium and Germany eliminated rabies, by spreading vaccinated bait for the foxes.
It is far more difficult to achieve for the plague, though.
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Factually what you reflect is the media stupid vault face on everything or jumping on any press release not understanding what is written. The reality is that science in general, no matter what a few tells you about reproducibility or significance criticism, is very very reliable. But the media don't like what they don't understand so you are very likely to read article spreading distrust on expert, or media taking a random idiot and pretending that person is an expert. The end game is people like you distrusting the expert, when in reality without expert you have NOTHING. Same shitty situation as with brexit really, where expert are distrusted "project fear".
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The only infectious human disease we have ever eradicated is smallpox, which was eradicated way back in the 1970s. From an eradication point of view, measles and smallpox are very similar: they are viruses, they are highly infectious, they do not mutate super-fast, they infect only humans, it is obvious when someone has the disease, there is a very effective vaccine. From a technical point of view, eradicating measles is a very similar task to eradicating smallpox.
However, there is one significant difference: measles is a fairly worrying disease, whereas smallpox is absolutely terrifying. This means there hasn't been the social and political will to push an eradication program. If the will did exist, we could wrap it up in about 10 years (wild guess on my part), and then nobody would ever need a measles vaccination ever again. Don't like vaccinations? Push for eradication. Your kids will get the jab, but your grandkids, great-grandkids, etc. forever, will not.
The list of diseases considered eradicable (as of 2008) is quite short. For example, influenza is not - it readily jumps species (so eradication from humans would require vaccinating wild ducks, for example) and it mutates rapidly, so new vaccines are constantly needed.
The list:
Smallpox (eradicated)
Polio (on the verge of eradication, probably 5 to 10 years off)
Dracunculiasis/Guinea worm (on the verge of eradication)
Yaws (on the verge of eradication)
Malaria (eradication still decades away)
Hookworm
Lymphatic filariasis
Measles
Mumps
Rubella
Lymphatic filariasis
Cysticercosis
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Is that a polite way of saying illegal immigrants are bringing diseases into the US?
No. It refers mainly to unvaccinated US residents who temporarily leave the country to visit another and then return, or unvaccinated foreigners who enter the country for a visit and come into contact with unvaccinated locals before returning home - either way, almost entirely through airports and legally. Of course, unvaccinated immigrants pose the exact same risk as unvaccinated travellers, but you were asking specifically about whether the term is a euphemism. It is not.
Measles are just one disease that we had nearly eliminated that are coming back now. Coincidence?
No, for it to be a coincidence the two things must coincide. Immigrants, including infected ones, were entering back when measles was managing to stay "eliminated" too - it's not a recent phenomenon. That isn't a coincidence - that's a red herring.
However, the resurgence of outbreaks does coincide with rise of the anti-vax movement. Make of that what you will.
Except of course that Mexico and Nicaragua have higher vaccination rates against measles than the US: https://theweek.com/articles/5...
We're gonna FORCE everyone to shoot up with CRAZY CHEMICALS!!!??1!!!1!!!! Hallelujah, praise the vax!
Totally full of DHMO. The most deadly chemical known to man, fatal in all forms and its everywhere, completely unregulated. Mobilise the masses, something must be done!
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Pro-vaccine shills, is that another word for "we who hate disease"? Does that make you a pro-disease shill then?!
Interestingly, EVERYONE who got the measles had been vaccinated.
This fact has been suppressed by the mainstream news outlets.
Vaccination isn't the same as immunisation. Hence two completely different words.
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Latin Americans are generally vaccinated (MMR) at a higher rate than people in the USA.
I can tell you that when I looked it up online (google search) I found that Latin American countries had higher reported rates of MMR vaccination of their people than the USA does, by and large.
I don't know who brought measles to the USA (illegals or unvaccinated travellers, or vaccinated travellers who got sick anyway), but looking at the stats, it's more justified for Latin America to bar immigration from the USA to them than vice versa.
Kind of took the wind out of any ideas I may have had about illegal immigrants from Latin America bringing disease to USA. Either exaggerated or not true, more likely driven by racist bigotry than fact, at least when it comes to measles/mumps/rubella.
In fact, given that I have heaps of evidence of racist bigotry, (black people get criminal convictions and far harsher punishments in USA for the *exact same crime* and with the *exact same criminal record* (look it up!)) and no real information about immigrants bringing disease, I'm just going to assume claims of immigrants bringing disease in at larger rates than native spread are more likely racist bigotry than fact. Occam's razor--not guaranteed to be correct, but a good heuristic.
--PeterM
I didn't get the context about the claim that EVERYONE who got the measles had been vaccinated. I know that in some of the outbreaks in the USA right now, they're mostly raging amongst the unvaccinated.
That said, vaccines aren't always perfectly effective. People's immune systems differ. MMR is 97% effective against measles after 2 doses. That means that 3% of people are susceptible despite vaccination.
When you have an insanely contagious disease like measles, which can infect 20 new people for every case in a population that is not immune, you can expect a good amount of cases in VACCINATED people even when they've been vaccinated.
That 3% of the vaccinated, and those who are immunocompromised by, say, antirejection drugs so that they can keep an organ that they've had donated to them, or who are on cancer chemotherapy, must depend on "herd immunity" to protect them from measles.
Herd immunity is the effect that if enough of a population is immune to a disease, it can't spread in the population, and no member of the population is likely to be exposed, ever. For highly contagious measles and with a 97% vaccine effectiveness, herd immunity requires more than 90% of people be vaccinated.
Anti-vaxxers thus put EVERYONE at risk, not just their poor helpless kids who are the primary victims of their parent's negligence of their civic duty to protect both their kids and the nation from disease. This is a big part of the reason that there is such disgust for anti-vaxxer behavior from the rest of us.
--PeterM
May illegal immigrants are coming from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. Not sure of their vaccination rates, but I'm sure it's not good.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...
and these are just the ones they catch. Others are disappearing into society, going to schools and using emergency facilities when they get really sick.
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Citation?
I've seen several articles discussing the current outbreak as happening to people who were not vaccinated in areas where lack of vaccination was more common than normal for the USA as a whole....
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Replying to myself.
A quick check of Clark County, WA, indicates that of 73 cases reported at the time of the article, 63 were NOT vaccinated, three had had only one vaccination (as opposed to the two that are standard), and the remaining seven were "vaccination status unknown".
So, I repeat, where is the evidence that "EVERYONE who got the measles had been vaccinated"? Evidence seems to support at least 90% NOT vaccinated....
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
The vaccination rate in Central and South American countries exceed the vaccination rate of the US.
So no, it's not "illegal aliens". They get their shots. We don't.
Yeah, never mind the actual risk of that happening.
It's 1 in 10,000.
The rate of an adverse reaction to the MMR vaccine is about 1 in 6,000,000. And most of those are allergic reactions that are very treatable and do not cause life-long harm.
There have been two deaths caused by the MMR vaccine. Ever. One was an advanced leukemia patient, who decided to risk the vaccine because of their risk of catching the disease due to morons like you. One was a baby, and the parents didn't authorize sharing their information.
If you are unable to understand the difference between 1 in 10,000, 1 in 6,000,000 and 2 in 2,500,000,000, you should not be making the medical decisions for anyone.
You do know that basically every person over the age of 60 has had the measles, right? Where exactly are their horror stories?
In your local graveyard.
More than that. Everyone over 40 has had the measles
Nope. I'm 45, never had measles. 'Cause I got vaccinated.
It's almost like you don't actually know the history of the thing you're talking about...
The problem is it's difficult to prove a particular infection came from one person unless the disease is very rare.
Measles has an adverse reaction rate of 1 in 10,000. Yes, you survived. Hundreds of millions did not.
We'd like those hundreds of millions to not die. You don't give a shit, since it won't kill you personally.
Almost none of them have ever been vaccinated
Actually, the vaccination rate of every Central and South American country is higher than the US. So no, they were vaccinated. Also, these outbreaks were caused by US people getting infected abroad and bringing the disease back.
Hmmm...so odd you didn't provide a cite for your bullshit, but require one from everyone else.
So, you know where to find Google, right? There's this entity called the "World Health Organization" that tracks vaccination rates.
Facts and logic were never an antivax strength.
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You do know that basically every person over the age of 60 has had the measles, right? Where exactly are their horror stories?
In your local graveyard.
This is the best mic drop end of comment I've seen in months. If I only had mod points good sir!
Let me put it this way, about 17 people died from a confirmed negative reaction to the MMR vaccine in 2017 (most recent year I could find good data for).
Got a cite for that? It sounds odd ... "about 17".
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it's large power structures encouraging a general distrust of science. Mega corporations fight climate change science. You've got Young Earth creationists railing against evolution and claiming the ark flood happened. And to this day people believe in trickle down economics crap like the Laffer curve and the "Job Creator" narrative.
A lot of very wealthy people are spending a ton of money to convince people that science doesn't work so we won't listen to those pesky scientists because if we did we'd cost those wealthy people an awful lot of money...
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The "dangers of wind turbines" narrative is fake too, being noting but a Denigrate Not My Solution argument. The real problem with wind and solar is the low energy density for each generating unit. Except for photovoltaic installations on existing structures, this causes energy sprawl, the need to pave over square kilometers of that sacred Environment to get utility-scale amounts of power. Dense, concentrated, small-footprint sources of energy that are available 24/7 are the best. The one renewable that fits this description is hydro (and in a few lucky places, geothermal).
I don't know whether you're European, but several years ago I went over there to hike the Wainwright. Every small village across Cumbria and Yorkshire was fighting the NIMBY battle to install a three-turbine wind facility. Had they just installed one big nuke at Windscale, the start of the hike and a place where the nuclear bullet has already been bitten, they could have powered the region while avoiding the whole mess, and left all those villages pristine.
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On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Literally 5 seconds of googling "vaccination rates"...
https://data.oecd.org/healthca...
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Measles cases have has risen since 2000 as infected third world trash Illegal aliens bring the disease to the U.S.
Fixed.
Actually you'll find it's the trash locals that aren't vaccinated and travel to places where such diseases are active, then bring them back to developed nations to spread which are to blame.
Asylum seekers get checked for vaccinations at the border, if not present, are then vaccinated... Even if the program has to be run by volunteers like MSF (Doctors Without Borders).
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Not only that but Mexico has a higher vaccination rate against MMR than the US...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Measles was eliminated in the United States in 2000.
I hear this meme a lot. The CDC reported 216 cases of measles in the U.S. from 2001-2003. Roughly 1 in 5 of those were of "unknown" origin (i.e., they couldn't find evidence to pin the case on an external source).
That's certainly a puzzling definition of "eliminated" -- it seems more along the lines of "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq than any sort of statistical reality.