(thankfully not in Minnesota). The governement would have to install some sort of hardware/software somewhere on my network to collect a tax. The government can install such equipment on my network over my dead body.
You can always tell the average age of people on Slashdot when the concern is wheither or not Linux is better than XP and has a bunch of games. For the record I think that Linux is much simplier to use after you learn it and many of the distros have the same nifty little configuration tools that you can find in Windows. And don't get me started on the number of times I've tried to do some simple thing in Windows XP only to get lost in config "wizard" hell. Win2k isn't nearly as bad about it. XP is a step backward.
More on Topic: What MS is most worried about is servers. They aren't gaining much ground in that area and Linux is poised to become the dominent player in that area. So MS does what they do best, the spread FUD, in hopes that some PHBs will get scared and stop considering Linux for deployment.
MS also knows that Corporate embracement of Linux is good for it (and thus bad for them). RedHat is focusing large companies who want top-level support. There isn't anything at all wrong with that as so go the bigger companies the smaller ones follow, until eventually you start seeing it on people's desktops.
FUD isn't making Linux or free software go away anytime soon.
Create an SSH tunnel and run some kind of proxy on the other end (I used a Perl script to help out a friend of mine). Then tell your favorite browser that all your web are proxyed on localhost 22, and BOOM employer can't see that you are browsing the web and can't filter it either.
Probably possible to do something similar with mail, at least with an outside address.
If you don't have SSH access it *might* be possible to actually run your SSH tunnel out your companies port 80. Assuming that such a thing wouldn't be noticed by Evil Proxy (tm) should work just fine.
I heard that murder for hire was a very lucrative business to be in. Maybe we should make it legal because of the bad economy too. I mean really the Mafia is just doing its job right? Doesn't really matter who else gets harmed...
I know tele-marketing isn't quite the same, but its the same principle. People disagree with it. They don't like it. They want it to stop. This being a country run 'by the people and for the people' when the majority of people stand up for something (like they have by signing up for this list) then there is a reason.
Besides I've known people who worked as telemarketors. McDonalds is always hiring and they'll probably make more money anyway. I have no sympathy for telemarketers who chose to get into a business of annoying people and then cry 'boohoo' when the people they're annoying do something about it. But hey maybe its just because I'm a web-developer that despite being laid off still found a job a week later even with the horrible economy.
Oh brother. I'll admit I haven't seen the movie but if he's asserting that governments only exist because of terrorism then he's an idiot. Governments exist to enforce laws and provide or oversee infrastructure. Sure there is corruption in the system because its made of people, and people are inherently corrupt. Sure lets get rid of our government and you can also say good-bye to most if not all of our means of transportation, communication, research, social services, the list goes on and on and on. Everything is touched in some way by the government, it keeps the system together and coherent. Now you can believe that people are going to band together and make all the stuff we have now work but one of two things is going to happen. 1) Those people will form some kind of leadership, develop rules of conduct and enforce them on others... yeah they'll form a new government and in the end it will suffer all the same problems, they'll just be magnified. OR 2) the more likely outcome, infighting will grow out of hand do to lack of laws and codes of conduct and your left with rampant vigilantism as people obtain weapons and seek "justice" for the crimes they commit against each other.
Terrorism isn't bred out of governments, its bred out of dissent usually the dissent of people who are too ignorant to realize who their true enemy is. Witness the Middle East... everyone is so angry and full of hate for Israel and the US they are blind to what their own governments do to them! I'm not defending all of our actions in the region (we had no business being in Iraq other than to settle old scores) but anyone blaming the entire system to what amounts to failings of foriegn policy contributes to the problem. Anyone who blames the "Right" or the "Left" or the "Democrats" or the "Republicans" contributes to the problem. Because the problem is corrupt leaders no matter what side of the aisle and its our job to vote those people out and vote in better people. The system will work if we do something about it rather than talking about on/. how we just need to get rid of it all.
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* tin-foil hat * Again according to dictionary.com, the 3rd definition of property is "Something tangible or intangible to which its owner has legal title: properties such as copyrights and trademarks." So, I think steal applies, at least according to dictionary.com, because to steal is to take property, and property can be somethign intangible like a copyright.
It didn't say that before but the Republicans used the PATRIOT act to force them to put it in their after the RIAA and SCO lobbied for the action. Oh and the whole terrorist attack thing was set up so that SCO and the RIAA and Bush could get the PATRIOT through Congress
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(note to mods: this is intended as humourous sarcasm)
We interupt this program to bring you a special announcement.
Users from the hacker website 'slashdot.org' today attacked an brought down the nation's super-duper internet monitoring system. Hacker's by the name of 'Hemos' and 'CmdrTaco' are said to be in FBI custody... Film at 11.
First of all the DRM coming to Office is not manditory, its a choice the user can make. Secondly MS adoption is being hampered by their own products. There are plenty of corporate environments still using Office 97, NT 4 and Windows 98 if not for anything but the simple reason that it takes time to do large roll-outs. While new machines come with XP there wasn't the mass-exodis to it like MS hoped for, and in Servers most people are just now making it up to Win2k... there haven't been mass exodises to 2003 either. There hasn't been widespread adoption of Passport or of Web Services. Homes and businesses aren't storeing data on MS servers nor do I think they will unless something very drastic changes.
Even if suddenly everyone upgrades, what happens the first time the PHB can't open a file that was saved with DRM with the wrong permissions or what not? Or when he's traveling and has no access to the authentication server. PHB is going to tell people not to use it.
Finally if MS made DRM to the default and started suing people for reverse engineering it (which so far has not been their style) Sun Microsystems (I'm sure you have heard of them) while not the same size of company as MS (but certainly not a kid in Norway), is on our side and rely's on OpenOffice to produce its StarOffice program. I have serious doubts that they will simply give up and go away without taking the issue to court.
Coming up with something new and making it popular is not at all easy. My friend and I work on this comic. I'd say its different from the funny papers but also different from most of the webcomics that are out there right now. Sure we have a decent readership but we aren't bursting our bandwidth caps or anything like that.
A unique comic is very lucky if it gets a lot of readers that stick around, unfortunatly most people stick with what they know.
Doubtful... IBM used to be the evil company before MS came along and usurped that from them. I personally believe that IBM has benefitted from its good guy policies and they would have nothing to gain from doing what SCO is doing.
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Would like to hear some discussion thanks!
I think the editors should be discussing the possibility of a +1 or -1 Conspiracy:)
Seriously though, there are other large companies (IBM? Sun? HP? to name a few I bet there are thousands of examples) that wouldn't dream of handing that kind of power over to MS. That and 60 some percent of the Net runs on Apache (mostly on some kind of *nix), somehow all those have to be converted to use DRM etc and I don't think that's happening soon either.
The government can't really mandate the use of a computer platform to people, I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional, and even if it weren't I'm sure such legislation would be tied up in lawsuits for years.
Finally even if somehow it was all mandated there are plenty of other places where it wouldn't be. I'd pack up and move, and be rid of the lusers forever!:)
You're missing the point. I think that most people (even those who are engaging in file sharing) that violating someone's copyright is somewhat wrong. And even if most people don't, I'll speak for myself and say that I believe that it is. The problem is the RIAA has decided that their copyrights outweigh people's freedoms, that they outweigh due process, and they outweigh the constitution. This is what I'm up in arms about, the RIAA needs to follow the law even against people who genuinely violated their copyright.
Uhh while that may be true you didn't closely read the article. The main argument is that the RIAA's tactics are unconstitutional because they violate due process. Sure she's going to say she didn't do anything wrong but even if she did I think the case has merit on the grounds of the due process argument and that would very much help the public.
I used to have a hotmail account, and when I needed to retrieve my password to get back into it one time they wouldn't let me do that. I know some people use it with others but it seems that the password retrieval stuff is IE only. I use Mozilla on Linux.
I am serious, and yes I have studied history other than watching CNN, maybe you should try it;-). I didn't say that Israel has committed genocide, though I don't think it would surprise me. And yes I can compare it to the Nazi's... the Nazi's (before they actually started killing them), harrassed the Jews, limited their movement, branded them with little stars, took away their jobs and homes... all in the name of "security"... this is different how exactly?
I love slashdot, we get all up in arms when Ashcroft says he's going to monitor the net or that some new draconian law is passed because the entainment industry wants it... we cry foul when someone mentions tighter security and suspecting citizens of terrorism, holding people without charging them etc.... I have seen several people compare the Bush Admin to Nazi Germany (and I can even sometimes understand why).. but when another "free" society's government sponsors oppression against a certain people group in the name of "security" we turn a blind eye.
I'm not complaining about Slashdot being America centric but if we really want to talk about people's rights then we should support the rights of everyone.
As for your specific points: Israel obviously has a problem with Palestinians working in Jerusalam otherwise there wouldn't be checkpoints that take literally hours to get through, there wouldn't be walls all over the place, and palestinians wouldn't have a greater than 70% unemployment rate and growing. I have a very large problem with Israel simply rolling tanks into towns and road blocking Jenin. No due process, no hunting for the actual perpertrators of a crime, just lock them all up because they're only Palestinian! That's wrong, and while Hamas and other groups may have political agendas, and killing civilians is in its own right an atrocity, the average Palestinian Joe has a God-given right to be angry about the erosian of his freedom.
The killing is terrible, and the islamic groups should be brought to trial, but Israel is not guiltless and they are fanning the flames.
Ugh.. I'm sorry but I've talked to Palestinians, the Israelis take their homes, their land and their jobs. Sure killing civilians is wrong and the Palestinians should attack legitimate targets.
However the Israelis are no better. Their "targetted killings" always happen with no proof that a crime was actually commited, they are always in response to a suicide attack. Its not justice, its tit for tat. Also there are a certain percentage of Israelis that believe the whole region belongs to them and continuosly build settlements further and further into Palestinian territory, technically the Israeli government is opposed to these actions (*nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*) but their complete lack of action on the issue leads me to believe that they really support such settlements.
The Israelis are practicing segregation and discrimination based on race and religion, targetting people without due process, antagonizing people for political reasons and, I dare say, violating human rights. Quite frankly I'm outraged that a group of people thinks so highly of themselves that they would so quickly forget the attrocities committed against them only half a century ago (the holocaust) and commit the very same kinds of crimes against another people group.
Both sides are wrong but one side has money and political favor from most of the world, while the other has rocks which it tries to defend itself with./rant
By that logic Apache would be the most compromised web-server since it has the most installations, but we all know that IIS has far more problems than Apache with security.
I don't know about fines and what not but I think that it's clear (or should be) that Microsoft doesn't try to make its products secure, that is unless it thinks it will sell more, because they have a monopoly on the desktop, users don't know that other things exist so they keep on using the same products, and making excuses about "that's just how computers are" etc.
Whereas IBM, Sun, etc. and especially the Open Source community put quality first and you don't see the same problems.
Would their be more problems if there were more users? Sure but I still don't think it would be near the same kind of issue.
We all know this is true but SCO is also trying to claim that all software ever written that is built upon UNIX ideas is theirs (basically, all software). They think 'ALL YOUR SOFTWARE BELONG TO US!' and that the copyright claims will be null and void as well.
Personally they can have copyrights from software I've written when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
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Breaking yet another perfectly good standard. How much of a pain is it already to have 90% CSS compatibility in IE?
(thankfully not in Minnesota). The governement would have to install some sort of hardware/software somewhere on my network to collect a tax. The government can install such equipment on my network over my dead body.
That is all.
You can always tell the average age of people on Slashdot when the concern is wheither or not Linux is better than XP and has a bunch of games. For the record I think that Linux is much simplier to use after you learn it and many of the distros have the same nifty little configuration tools that you can find in Windows. And don't get me started on the number of times I've tried to do some simple thing in Windows XP only to get lost in config "wizard" hell. Win2k isn't nearly as bad about it. XP is a step backward.
More on Topic: What MS is most worried about is servers. They aren't gaining much ground in that area and Linux is poised to become the dominent player in that area. So MS does what they do best, the spread FUD, in hopes that some PHBs will get scared and stop considering Linux for deployment.
MS also knows that Corporate embracement of Linux is good for it (and thus bad for them). RedHat is focusing large companies who want top-level support. There isn't anything at all wrong with that as so go the bigger companies the smaller ones follow, until eventually you start seeing it on people's desktops.
FUD isn't making Linux or free software go away anytime soon.
Create an SSH tunnel and run some kind of proxy on the other end (I used a Perl script to help out a friend of mine). Then tell your favorite browser that all your web are proxyed on localhost 22, and BOOM employer can't see that you are browsing the web and can't filter it either.
Probably possible to do something similar with mail, at least with an outside address.
If you don't have SSH access it *might* be possible to actually run your SSH tunnel out your companies port 80. Assuming that such a thing wouldn't be noticed by Evil Proxy (tm) should work just fine.
I heard that murder for hire was a very lucrative business to be in. Maybe we should make it legal because of the bad economy too. I mean really the Mafia is just doing its job right? Doesn't really matter who else gets harmed ...
I know tele-marketing isn't quite the same, but its the same principle. People disagree with it. They don't like it. They want it to stop. This being a country run 'by the people and for the people' when the majority of people stand up for something (like they have by signing up for this list) then there is a reason.
Besides I've known people who worked as telemarketors. McDonalds is always hiring and they'll probably make more money anyway. I have no sympathy for telemarketers who chose to get into a business of annoying people and then cry 'boohoo' when the people they're annoying do something about it. But hey maybe its just because I'm a web-developer that despite being laid off still found a job a week later even with the horrible economy.
Oh brother. I'll admit I haven't seen the movie but if he's asserting that governments only exist because of terrorism then he's an idiot. Governments exist to enforce laws and provide or oversee infrastructure. Sure there is corruption in the system because its made of people, and people are inherently corrupt. Sure lets get rid of our government and you can also say good-bye to most if not all of our means of transportation, communication, research, social services, the list goes on and on and on. Everything is touched in some way by the government, it keeps the system together and coherent. Now you can believe that people are going to band together and make all the stuff we have now work but one of two things is going to happen. 1) Those people will form some kind of leadership, develop rules of conduct and enforce them on others ... yeah they'll form a new government and in the end it will suffer all the same problems, they'll just be magnified. OR 2) the more likely outcome, infighting will grow out of hand do to lack of laws and codes of conduct and your left with rampant vigilantism as people obtain weapons and seek "justice" for the crimes they commit against each other.
... everyone is so angry and full of hate for Israel and the US they are blind to what their own governments do to them! I'm not defending all of our actions in the region (we had no business being in Iraq other than to settle old scores) but anyone blaming the entire system to what amounts to failings of foriegn policy contributes to the problem. Anyone who blames the "Right" or the "Left" or the "Democrats" or the "Republicans" contributes to the problem. Because the problem is corrupt leaders no matter what side of the aisle and its our job to vote those people out and vote in better people. The system will work if we do something about it rather than talking about on /. how we just need to get rid of it all.
Terrorism isn't bred out of governments, its bred out of dissent usually the dissent of people who are too ignorant to realize who their true enemy is. Witness the Middle East
* tin-foil hat *
Again according to dictionary.com, the 3rd definition of property is "Something tangible or intangible to which its owner has legal title: properties such as copyrights and trademarks." So, I think steal applies, at least according to dictionary.com, because to steal is to take property, and property can be somethign intangible like a copyright.
It didn't say that before but the Republicans used the PATRIOT act to force them to put it in their after the RIAA and SCO lobbied for the action. Oh and the whole terrorist attack thing was set up so that SCO and the RIAA and Bush could get the PATRIOT through Congress
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(note to mods: this is intended as humourous sarcasm)
We interupt this program to bring you a special announcement.
... Film at 11.
Users from the hacker website 'slashdot.org' today attacked an brought down the nation's super-duper internet monitoring system. Hacker's by the name of 'Hemos' and 'CmdrTaco' are said to be in FBI custody
I think the tin-foil is affecting your brain.
... there haven't been mass exodises to 2003 either. There hasn't been widespread adoption of Passport or of Web Services. Homes and businesses aren't storeing data on MS servers nor do I think they will unless something very drastic changes.
First of all the DRM coming to Office is not manditory, its a choice the user can make. Secondly MS adoption is being hampered by their own products. There are plenty of corporate environments still using Office 97, NT 4 and Windows 98 if not for anything but the simple reason that it takes time to do large roll-outs. While new machines come with XP there wasn't the mass-exodis to it like MS hoped for, and in Servers most people are just now making it up to Win2k
Even if suddenly everyone upgrades, what happens the first time the PHB can't open a file that was saved with DRM with the wrong permissions or what not? Or when he's traveling and has no access to the authentication server. PHB is going to tell people not to use it.
Finally if MS made DRM to the default and started suing people for reverse engineering it (which so far has not been their style) Sun Microsystems (I'm sure you have heard of them) while not the same size of company as MS (but certainly not a kid in Norway), is on our side and rely's on OpenOffice to produce its StarOffice program. I have serious doubts that they will simply give up and go away without taking the issue to court.
uh ... no '96 would have been the Hal-Bop comet, not Hailey's
Coming up with something new and making it popular is not at all easy. My friend and I work on this comic. I'd say its different from the funny papers but also different from most of the webcomics that are out there right now. Sure we have a decent readership but we aren't bursting our bandwidth caps or anything like that.
A unique comic is very lucky if it gets a lot of readers that stick around, unfortunatly most people stick with what they know.
/flame suit on.
No, as much garbage as its emitting it has to be PHP.
Doubtful ... IBM used to be the evil company before MS came along and usurped that from them. I personally believe that IBM has benefitted from its good guy policies and they would have nothing to gain from doing what SCO is doing.
Would like to hear some discussion thanks!
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I think the editors should be discussing the possibility of a +1 or -1 Conspiracy
Seriously though, there are other large companies (IBM? Sun? HP? to name a few I bet there are thousands of examples) that wouldn't dream of handing that kind of power over to MS. That and 60 some percent of the Net runs on Apache (mostly on some kind of *nix), somehow all those have to be converted to use DRM etc and I don't think that's happening soon either.
The government can't really mandate the use of a computer platform to people, I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional, and even if it weren't I'm sure such legislation would be tied up in lawsuits for years.
Finally even if somehow it was all mandated there are plenty of other places where it wouldn't be. I'd pack up and move, and be rid of the lusers forever!
10 seconds? Wow it only took me 3 to see that you're a troll.
Something like this? (sorry I couldn't find a Semi Truck too)
Darl is a Chicken
Not much bandwidth so a mirror away if it gets slashdotted.
You're missing the point. I think that most people (even those who are engaging in file sharing) that violating someone's copyright is somewhat wrong. And even if most people don't, I'll speak for myself and say that I believe that it is. The problem is the RIAA has decided that their copyrights outweigh people's freedoms, that they outweigh due process, and they outweigh the constitution. This is what I'm up in arms about, the RIAA needs to follow the law even against people who genuinely violated their copyright.
Uhh while that may be true you didn't closely read the article. The main argument is that the RIAA's tactics are unconstitutional because they violate due process. Sure she's going to say she didn't do anything wrong but even if she did I think the case has merit on the grounds of the due process argument and that would very much help the public.
I used to have a hotmail account, and when I needed to retrieve my password to get back into it one time they wouldn't let me do that. I know some people use it with others but it seems that the password retrieval stuff is IE only. I use Mozilla on Linux.
I am serious, and yes I have studied history other than watching CNN, maybe you should try it ;-). I didn't say that Israel has committed genocide, though I don't think it would surprise me. And yes I can compare it to the Nazi's ... the Nazi's (before they actually started killing them), harrassed the Jews, limited their movement, branded them with little stars, took away their jobs and homes ... all in the name of "security" ... this is different how exactly?
... we cry foul when someone mentions tighter security and suspecting citizens of terrorism, holding people without charging them etc. ... I have seen several people compare the Bush Admin to Nazi Germany (and I can even sometimes understand why) .. but when another "free" society's government sponsors oppression against a certain people group in the name of "security" we turn a blind eye.
I love slashdot, we get all up in arms when Ashcroft says he's going to monitor the net or that some new draconian law is passed because the entainment industry wants it
I'm not complaining about Slashdot being America centric but if we really want to talk about people's rights then we should support the rights of everyone.
As for your specific points: Israel obviously has a problem with Palestinians working in Jerusalam otherwise there wouldn't be checkpoints that take literally hours to get through, there wouldn't be walls all over the place, and palestinians wouldn't have a greater than 70% unemployment rate and growing. I have a very large problem with Israel simply rolling tanks into towns and road blocking Jenin. No due process, no hunting for the actual perpertrators of a crime, just lock them all up because they're only Palestinian! That's wrong, and while Hamas and other groups may have political agendas, and killing civilians is in its own right an atrocity, the average Palestinian Joe has a God-given right to be angry about the erosian of his freedom.
The killing is terrible, and the islamic groups should be brought to trial, but Israel is not guiltless and they are fanning the flames.
Ugh .. I'm sorry but I've talked to Palestinians, the Israelis take their homes, their land and their jobs. Sure killing civilians is wrong and the Palestinians should attack legitimate targets.
/rant
However the Israelis are no better. Their "targetted killings" always happen with no proof that a crime was actually commited, they are always in response to a suicide attack. Its not justice, its tit for tat. Also there are a certain percentage of Israelis that believe the whole region belongs to them and continuosly build settlements further and further into Palestinian territory, technically the Israeli government is opposed to these actions (*nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*) but their complete lack of action on the issue leads me to believe that they really support such settlements.
The Israelis are practicing segregation and discrimination based on race and religion, targetting people without due process, antagonizing people for political reasons and, I dare say, violating human rights. Quite frankly I'm outraged that a group of people thinks so highly of themselves that they would so quickly forget the attrocities committed against them only half a century ago (the holocaust) and commit the very same kinds of crimes against another people group.
Both sides are wrong but one side has money and political favor from most of the world, while the other has rocks which it tries to defend itself with.
Can I be informative too by saying BOYCOTT MONEY!!! SOME OF IT ALWAYS MAKES IT INTO THE HANDS OF THE **AA!!! ?
Come on, its impossible to keep your money from indirectly affecting just about everyone else. Used CDs are a good compromise.
Umm... Most MBAs take 2 years. Perhaps he already started and hasn't finished yet?
By that logic Apache would be the most compromised web-server since it has the most installations, but we all know that IIS has far more problems than Apache with security.
I don't know about fines and what not but I think that it's clear (or should be) that Microsoft doesn't try to make its products secure, that is unless it thinks it will sell more, because they have a monopoly on the desktop, users don't know that other things exist so they keep on using the same products, and making excuses about "that's just how computers are" etc.
Whereas IBM, Sun, etc. and especially the Open Source community put quality first and you don't see the same problems.
Would their be more problems if there were more users? Sure but I still don't think it would be near the same kind of issue.
We all know this is true but SCO is also trying to claim that all software ever written that is built upon UNIX ideas is theirs (basically, all software). They think 'ALL YOUR SOFTWARE BELONG TO US!' and that the copyright claims will be null and void as well.
Personally they can have copyrights from software I've written when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.