There is little overlap in a BSEE with a BSME; and so the time investment would be tremendous. Instead, focus on a specialization within EE that you find fascinating. I am getting my MSEE in semiconductor devices and solid states to complement my BSME.
It's often been said to get a management degree, but save that bullet for when your already working in a company (if that's your decision); else it won't bridge as far you think.
In a realistic standpoint, get a JD... you'll travel farther than a MBA student will. Use the legal knowledge as means to make sound business decisions and not go the average IP route.
Can't say this article is shocking. Perhaps if our society valued intellect, abhorred a gov't that is larger than all manufacturing jobs combined, and made personal responsibility a cornerstone and not a sound-byte.... nah, who am I kidding. We reaped our profits and sowed the seeds of our own destruction. Case in point: ChiCom... give China your IP if you want access to their economy, never mind that they'll create a knock-off the next day and bury you with your own product.
It really doesn't make sense why they push offshore wind energy when they can't even get 60% utilization of the wind farms located on farmland. Besides, the only people profiting from this kind of project are the generator manufacturers and the installers who snag ludicrously lucrative maintenance contracts. If it is as remotely bad as the rural wind farms are, then this ocean one will be a doozy in cost inefficiency.
Unless a student sees it being popular amongst the cool kid crowd... Well, you see where this is going.
The anti-intellectualism movement; follow it on Twitter! tag it on Facebook! Look for the special announcement on American Idol today!
One part of the problem is the fetish of metrics. Percentage of population this, this many students that, etc.
The other is society valuing... scratch that.... worshiping entertainment and stimulation
Depending on what level of physics you teach, 99% of students should already have a TI-83 or TI-89. Just as common as a pencil. But I'm of the engineer variety in the USA. Besides, math is a universal language (and on that note, if they can't understand the common spoken language that they've elected for... too bad). If they are not capable of understanding constants and universally applicable equations... they will fail anyways. However, at least at my university, I've yet to take a class where cellular or anything non-calculator allowed at all. You take out a cell phone or anything that's not a calculator and your booted out of the class. In many of the test questions in physics that I've taken, it's not a big stretch to deduce what the question is just based on a few key words and defined variables.
At my university, we are engaged in a senior design class that is year long. However, over the years that this course is mandated, the outside clients we are suppose to help are never fully satisfied due to the fact that our university owns the student work and summarily no business venture can come about from it in order to help serve the consumers at large...
So, in light of this, many of these ideas are done at most "decently" and with no care... and for the students with ideas for business and patenting who lack the available resources to start things on a whim; nothing is accomplished.
There are ways to get around these impediments without withdrawing from school however; but it involves having some outside counsel and some money sadly.
Once again, the great American past time of sapping!
But will this knowledge being passed to the administration be lost in translation such it's interpreted that a possible Al Qaeda cell has been found? At the very minimum, does it posit that WMD have been discovered on Mars that threatens the fabric of American society.
As a neocon, I demand to know if this encroaches on intelligent design as well.
How long until you have to contend with bureaucracy security checks in order to complete a project or have a psychological profile ran before you receive your engineering diploma?
Or will the CIA/men-in-black always be in your background...
who don't have TPMS and instead have the following:
1) an older car
2) removed the sensors
3) installed different wheels and balked at paying a few hundred dollars when checking tire pressure once a month is infinitely cheaper.
As a current Mech Engr student; I find it is quite horrible.
Here's why:
The current accepted curriculum is geared to churn out calculator fodder for the large corporations. At my non-disclosed school, it is readily apparent by the the massive funding they give the school and the corporate tie ins and large camaraderie that they try and foster. Not to mention the fact that they do not actively advocate/heavily promote outside entrepreneur business leadership; instead relegating that to EMIS, where that program itself is geared towards milling around in cube management land.
I've realized that engineers are problem solvers, but they can not come up with the problem. They are the computers of financial engineers and the people that we engineers loathe because of their social time they have. If your in a business school for undergrad, chances are you have friday off. Your workload is comparatively magnitudes of order "lighter," so you are able to do this thing called "networking." I happened upon this non-computer "networking" phenomenon when I was seeking guidance on a few patents and businesses I was developing. Because of this experience, I've gone back and relegated engineering as the domain of where it's overwhelmingly minutia oriented and anti-social.
This is why I fully intend to take my BSME that I will receive, and shelve it. It's off to a graduate school with a good law and business program and get both a law and mba degree.
Don't get me started on petroleum engr's either... I pity them. If they lack any financial planning tenacity and are under the age of 35, they won't have much of a retirement when it enters another bust cycle. It's feast or famine in the oil industry.
What's most comical is that after talking at length with several chairmen of F500 companies, they say the same thing "Where are the engineers that think?" They don't like hiring technical only people, they like ones that can interact with people, understand business, and come up with solutions. Those are the types that shoot to the top in a multinational. Until there is a drastic change in engineering thought process taught at schools, theres little incentive for society to accept engineers beyond a human calculator.
I'd love to see one day a core engineering program like CSE,EE,ME teamed with a business and philosophy program and get a three degree. That'd be a hellaciously killer combo.
No no no, you've got it all wrong.
You need to step up to the big leagues, a 12ga. slug works quite nicely if you want the firearm path. It's not so much the size of the hole, but a matter of how much you want remaining.
Or strapping one to a train rail in an appropriate manner.
So many ultra-destructive manners that's its actually hobby in and of itself.
Tesla motors is having problems delivering on it's promise, and it is FAR from cheap.
Until the startups can prover their clout in lording over batteries, only Fisker has enough potential to really make a dent into the plug in like they are currently squaking over.
Ultimately, unless the power generation is by nuclear means, the "carbon footprint" won't be offset, but quite the opposite.
So you've got a question veiled in a question. Do you want to "be captain planet?" or "get great mileage?"
You can't do both with exponentially jacking the cost up out of joe q. publics reach. But one or the other is possible for nearly all.
There are still plenty of ICE options to explore to get considerably more efficiency out of the combustion process. But, all of these are moot when everyone wants to have mug and ass warmers in their car, and 50 speakers, and 40 way adjustable seats in their daily driver. Weight is by far the biggest enemy to the mileage they want, and those options alone add a crapload of weight, and then the gov't regulations compound this effort. Eventually, a '70 Chevelle will seem like a light weight car.
Amen to that.
At my current university, that I shall not name, and other universities I suspect as well; they merely churn engineering students out to fill the ranks of their corporate donors. Why teach them critical skills when they'll be much better suited to "aluminum stock finite element analysis" guy for the rest of their life? Why teach them to be "competitive?" *shhh...* having ideas other than normal is frowned upon. Thinking for yourself is resoundly frowned upon in the corporate world.
Just making a statement here. But lame. So what if the kid's 12 yrs old. Cute? Not so much when there are dogs in the world who have inherited more.
Besides, anyone in the country can make their own company, plop a bunch of money and/or credit into, and voila "I co-founded X!! look at me!!! My baby is CFO!!! OMG!"
not looking for points here, just stating the obvious.
It's facebook. 'nuff said.
It's for the feeble minded masses, why else do you think they all sheeped together and flock from social site to social site?
Wow, with the current crop of youngin's already demanding VIP treatment and feel-good's when they suck ass, way to really fuck over their future!
They need to learn things in a broad sense. Super specialization will not get you noticed until your at the phd level. As a current double Mech E and Physics major, it really shocks me when I head into advisor meetings and inquire about business and life classes that a I get a somewhat puzzled look. If your set with rat racing and cube farming, then fine stay with pure engineering, but I'm not. And it's precisely why I have 0 intention of actually practicing either of them.
You got a big assumption wrong there in your statement.
I take it you didn't run in the same circles as many of the rich kids did, so I'll break it down:
A "rich kid" will not pay for a CD... or a DVD for that matter; they generally feel it's beneath them and that they are entitled to free music.
Welcome to the Entitlement Generation; where the motto is: "everything ought to be free unless it affects me"
Attacking the country that ultimately controls your economy is not a wise move.
Shame on the man that has 50K in debt to the bank.
Shame on the bank for allowing multi-hundred billions in debt.
The Wankel design (German origin), aka rotary to the lay, is nifty, but not effective. (Mazda does NOT own this thought, just it's version of the engine)
It lacks something called torque in the low end, and with the current drive for cars to come with every home appliance and electronic convenience imaginable, this would absolutely result in horrible mileage and efficiency.
I'll eat my words when they come up with a rotary that'll crank out a decent torque curve, starting at say... 400 ft. lbs @ 1200 rpm and staying smooth throughout the range. Good luck...
Not all of us live in a world where we like to have V-tec or power come around 8K rpm... some of us like to keep the gas engines below 1600rpms @normal highway speeds and have the engine comfortable with it(and our ears).
This has been known for quite sometime now. It's nothing new, and hardly something applicable in the short term. If it's pneumatic valves, wouldn't last near long enough and prohibitively expensive ala certain Formula engines. Electric valves, 24V or any other, do not have the capability to survive in a reliable and flawless manner in a stressful life, i.e. high rpm, high heat, long term capability, all at the same time. When I don't have to fear a solenoid fritzing and nuking a $30K SBC, then I'll make that jump. Rotary valves, while nifty, are likewise prohibitively expensive in the short term outside of nicely lined sponsored rides. I'm not looking to blow an easy 60K on a perfectly balanced durable big block to reel 10K. While it'd be cool, theres a hell of a lot cheaper and easier ways to get ridiculous power out of current solutions.
How about more development into the cerametallic blocks, bore liners, pistons, heads etc. ? It'd be nice to have a ridiculous low thermal expansion rate, so that way you can have a far better seal, higher efficiency, you know... useful things.
Look at gold, your idea has been around for ages. And your still on the hook for taxes, because taxes are in response to where your citizenship lies. Start dodging the tax man, and they come after you hard. There is 0 leniency, and here stateside, because it's a jury of peers; your really fucked because no one likes someone dodging taxes that they all have to pay as well.
There's a stark difference between "intelligence" and "academic performance." It irks some of the students who are verified at least highly intellectual(thinking... top 2% IQ on the low range) whenever its assumed that the overachieving 4.2billion blah blah GPA student is some gift from the heavens. Yes, there is some overlap, but think of it as some hardware. Which one is better: The one with a liquid nitrogen quad dual-core proc setup or the one you can buy off the shelf from Best Buy? Both need to run certain apps for a while that'll work on both, but eventually they'll have to step up and run say... digital encoding & 3d design simultaneously.
Sorry, I'm trying to come up with an analogy.
Academic performance can be achieved by dang near anyone, comparatively dumb students can drone over their work and achieve. The whole "work hard for success" goes through society too much.
On the other hand.
There's a couple top ten thousandths I know that looooooovvveeeeee old metal.
Wow, it appears there is a big spread between a car nerd and an IT nerd
1) the Big 2.5 will take advantage of it when needed, some of their larger powerplants are very efficient. GM in particular has rather very efficient large displacement engines. I have a 496CI big block in a 7K lb very un-aerodynamic brick, and I get 14mpg... can you top that and still get 9mpg with a 12K load? It's a very, very tall order.
2) OHC is equally as old as OHV, and in general is less tolerant of abuse than an OHV system. Don't perpetuate ricer myths when you have no knowledge to be speaking.
Please sell whatever car you drive, and get in line for public transportation.
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There is little overlap in a BSEE with a BSME; and so the time investment would be tremendous. Instead, focus on a specialization within EE that you find fascinating. I am getting my MSEE in semiconductor devices and solid states to complement my BSME. It's often been said to get a management degree, but save that bullet for when your already working in a company (if that's your decision); else it won't bridge as far you think. In a realistic standpoint, get a JD... you'll travel farther than a MBA student will. Use the legal knowledge as means to make sound business decisions and not go the average IP route.
Can't say this article is shocking. Perhaps if our society valued intellect, abhorred a gov't that is larger than all manufacturing jobs combined, and made personal responsibility a cornerstone and not a sound-byte.... nah, who am I kidding. We reaped our profits and sowed the seeds of our own destruction. Case in point: ChiCom... give China your IP if you want access to their economy, never mind that they'll create a knock-off the next day and bury you with your own product.
It really doesn't make sense why they push offshore wind energy when they can't even get 60% utilization of the wind farms located on farmland. Besides, the only people profiting from this kind of project are the generator manufacturers and the installers who snag ludicrously lucrative maintenance contracts. If it is as remotely bad as the rural wind farms are, then this ocean one will be a doozy in cost inefficiency.
Unless a student sees it being popular amongst the cool kid crowd... Well, you see where this is going. The anti-intellectualism movement; follow it on Twitter! tag it on Facebook! Look for the special announcement on American Idol today!
One part of the problem is the fetish of metrics. Percentage of population this, this many students that, etc. The other is society valuing... scratch that.... worshiping entertainment and stimulation
Depending on what level of physics you teach, 99% of students should already have a TI-83 or TI-89. Just as common as a pencil. But I'm of the engineer variety in the USA. Besides, math is a universal language (and on that note, if they can't understand the common spoken language that they've elected for... too bad). If they are not capable of understanding constants and universally applicable equations... they will fail anyways. However, at least at my university, I've yet to take a class where cellular or anything non-calculator allowed at all. You take out a cell phone or anything that's not a calculator and your booted out of the class. In many of the test questions in physics that I've taken, it's not a big stretch to deduce what the question is just based on a few key words and defined variables.
At my university, we are engaged in a senior design class that is year long. However, over the years that this course is mandated, the outside clients we are suppose to help are never fully satisfied due to the fact that our university owns the student work and summarily no business venture can come about from it in order to help serve the consumers at large...
So, in light of this, many of these ideas are done at most "decently" and with no care... and for the students with ideas for business and patenting who lack the available resources to start things on a whim; nothing is accomplished.
There are ways to get around these impediments without withdrawing from school however; but it involves having some outside counsel and some money sadly.
Once again, the great American past time of sapping!
But will this knowledge being passed to the administration be lost in translation such it's interpreted that a possible Al Qaeda cell has been found? At the very minimum, does it posit that WMD have been discovered on Mars that threatens the fabric of American society.
As a neocon, I demand to know if this encroaches on intelligent design as well.
How long until you have to contend with bureaucracy security checks in order to complete a project or have a psychological profile ran before you receive your engineering diploma?
Or will the CIA/men-in-black always be in your background...
who don't have TPMS and instead have the following: 1) an older car 2) removed the sensors 3) installed different wheels and balked at paying a few hundred dollars when checking tire pressure once a month is infinitely cheaper.
As a current Mech Engr student; I find it is quite horrible. Here's why: The current accepted curriculum is geared to churn out calculator fodder for the large corporations. At my non-disclosed school, it is readily apparent by the the massive funding they give the school and the corporate tie ins and large camaraderie that they try and foster. Not to mention the fact that they do not actively advocate/heavily promote outside entrepreneur business leadership; instead relegating that to EMIS, where that program itself is geared towards milling around in cube management land.
I've realized that engineers are problem solvers, but they can not come up with the problem. They are the computers of financial engineers and the people that we engineers loathe because of their social time they have. If your in a business school for undergrad, chances are you have friday off. Your workload is comparatively magnitudes of order "lighter," so you are able to do this thing called "networking." I happened upon this non-computer "networking" phenomenon when I was seeking guidance on a few patents and businesses I was developing. Because of this experience, I've gone back and relegated engineering as the domain of where it's overwhelmingly minutia oriented and anti-social.
This is why I fully intend to take my BSME that I will receive, and shelve it. It's off to a graduate school with a good law and business program and get both a law and mba degree.
Don't get me started on petroleum engr's either... I pity them. If they lack any financial planning tenacity and are under the age of 35, they won't have much of a retirement when it enters another bust cycle. It's feast or famine in the oil industry.
What's most comical is that after talking at length with several chairmen of F500 companies, they say the same thing "Where are the engineers that think?" They don't like hiring technical only people, they like ones that can interact with people, understand business, and come up with solutions. Those are the types that shoot to the top in a multinational. Until there is a drastic change in engineering thought process taught at schools, theres little incentive for society to accept engineers beyond a human calculator.
I'd love to see one day a core engineering program like CSE,EE,ME teamed with a business and philosophy program and get a three degree. That'd be a hellaciously killer combo.
No no no, you've got it all wrong. You need to step up to the big leagues, a 12ga. slug works quite nicely if you want the firearm path. It's not so much the size of the hole, but a matter of how much you want remaining. Or strapping one to a train rail in an appropriate manner. So many ultra-destructive manners that's its actually hobby in and of itself.
Tesla motors is having problems delivering on it's promise, and it is FAR from cheap. Until the startups can prover their clout in lording over batteries, only Fisker has enough potential to really make a dent into the plug in like they are currently squaking over. Ultimately, unless the power generation is by nuclear means, the "carbon footprint" won't be offset, but quite the opposite. So you've got a question veiled in a question. Do you want to "be captain planet?" or "get great mileage?" You can't do both with exponentially jacking the cost up out of joe q. publics reach. But one or the other is possible for nearly all. There are still plenty of ICE options to explore to get considerably more efficiency out of the combustion process. But, all of these are moot when everyone wants to have mug and ass warmers in their car, and 50 speakers, and 40 way adjustable seats in their daily driver. Weight is by far the biggest enemy to the mileage they want, and those options alone add a crapload of weight, and then the gov't regulations compound this effort. Eventually, a '70 Chevelle will seem like a light weight car.
Amen to that. At my current university, that I shall not name, and other universities I suspect as well; they merely churn engineering students out to fill the ranks of their corporate donors. Why teach them critical skills when they'll be much better suited to "aluminum stock finite element analysis" guy for the rest of their life? Why teach them to be "competitive?" *shhh...* having ideas other than normal is frowned upon. Thinking for yourself is resoundly frowned upon in the corporate world.
Just making a statement here. But lame. So what if the kid's 12 yrs old. Cute? Not so much when there are dogs in the world who have inherited more. Besides, anyone in the country can make their own company, plop a bunch of money and/or credit into, and voila "I co-founded X!! look at me!!! My baby is CFO!!! OMG!" not looking for points here, just stating the obvious.
It's facebook. 'nuff said. It's for the feeble minded masses, why else do you think they all sheeped together and flock from social site to social site?
Wow, with the current crop of youngin's already demanding VIP treatment and feel-good's when they suck ass, way to really fuck over their future!
They need to learn things in a broad sense. Super specialization will not get you noticed until your at the phd level.
As a current double Mech E and Physics major, it really shocks me when I head into advisor meetings and inquire about business and life classes that a I get a somewhat puzzled look. If your set with rat racing and cube farming, then fine stay with pure engineering, but I'm not. And it's precisely why I have 0 intention of actually practicing either of them.
You got a big assumption wrong there in your statement. I take it you didn't run in the same circles as many of the rich kids did, so I'll break it down: A "rich kid" will not pay for a CD... or a DVD for that matter; they generally feel it's beneath them and that they are entitled to free music. Welcome to the Entitlement Generation; where the motto is: "everything ought to be free unless it affects me"
Not shocked in the least. This is merely another showing of the American political arrangement favors not the citizen, but the biggest donor.
Raise your hand if you thought your congressman would listen to you.
Who would you listen to: a very small donor at best, or the group who bankrolled your campaign(especially the "care about the people" PR)?
Why is this shocking news? Hell as a former die hard repub, I've lost pretty much all faith in the nation and it's future
Attacking the country that ultimately controls your economy is not a wise move. Shame on the man that has 50K in debt to the bank. Shame on the bank for allowing multi-hundred billions in debt.
The Wankel design (German origin), aka rotary to the lay, is nifty, but not effective. (Mazda does NOT own this thought, just it's version of the engine) It lacks something called torque in the low end, and with the current drive for cars to come with every home appliance and electronic convenience imaginable, this would absolutely result in horrible mileage and efficiency. I'll eat my words when they come up with a rotary that'll crank out a decent torque curve, starting at say... 400 ft. lbs @ 1200 rpm and staying smooth throughout the range. Good luck... Not all of us live in a world where we like to have V-tec or power come around 8K rpm... some of us like to keep the gas engines below 1600rpms @normal highway speeds and have the engine comfortable with it(and our ears).
This has been known for quite sometime now.
It's nothing new, and hardly something applicable in the short term.
If it's pneumatic valves, wouldn't last near long enough and prohibitively expensive ala certain Formula engines.
Electric valves, 24V or any other, do not have the capability to survive in a reliable and flawless manner in a stressful life, i.e. high rpm, high heat, long term capability, all at the same time. When I don't have to fear a solenoid fritzing and nuking a $30K SBC, then I'll make that jump.
Rotary valves, while nifty, are likewise prohibitively expensive in the short term outside of nicely lined sponsored rides. I'm not looking to blow an easy 60K on a perfectly balanced durable big block to reel 10K. While it'd be cool, theres a hell of a lot cheaper and easier ways to get ridiculous power out of current solutions.
How about more development into the cerametallic blocks, bore liners, pistons, heads etc. ? It'd be nice to have a ridiculous low thermal expansion rate, so that way you can have a far better seal, higher efficiency, you know... useful things.
Look at gold, your idea has been around for ages. And your still on the hook for taxes, because taxes are in response to where your citizenship lies. Start dodging the tax man, and they come after you hard. There is 0 leniency, and here stateside, because it's a jury of peers; your really fucked because no one likes someone dodging taxes that they all have to pay as well.
One of the good guys? Since when has HP ever remotely cared about consumers not involved with business?
There's a stark difference between "intelligence" and "academic performance." It irks some of the students who are verified at least highly intellectual(thinking... top 2% IQ on the low range) whenever its assumed that the overachieving 4.2billion blah blah GPA student is some gift from the heavens. Yes, there is some overlap, but think of it as some hardware. Which one is better: The one with a liquid nitrogen quad dual-core proc setup or the one you can buy off the shelf from Best Buy? Both need to run certain apps for a while that'll work on both, but eventually they'll have to step up and run say... digital encoding & 3d design simultaneously. Sorry, I'm trying to come up with an analogy. Academic performance can be achieved by dang near anyone, comparatively dumb students can drone over their work and achieve. The whole "work hard for success" goes through society too much. On the other hand. There's a couple top ten thousandths I know that looooooovvveeeeee old metal.
Wow, it appears there is a big spread between a car nerd and an IT nerd 1) the Big 2.5 will take advantage of it when needed, some of their larger powerplants are very efficient. GM in particular has rather very efficient large displacement engines. I have a 496CI big block in a 7K lb very un-aerodynamic brick, and I get 14mpg... can you top that and still get 9mpg with a 12K load? It's a very, very tall order. 2) OHC is equally as old as OHV, and in general is less tolerant of abuse than an OHV system. Don't perpetuate ricer myths when you have no knowledge to be speaking. Please sell whatever car you drive, and get in line for public transportation.