Oh, and BTW, the article also mentions problems with the 75X and 40X drives.
I know that we have been having a ton of problems with the Maxtor 40gb drives as well. I can't count how many of those drives we have sent back for RMA replacement. Heck, Maxtor knows me on a first name basis these days. And this is despite the industry praise for these drives...
To which my response would have been, "How do you remember phone numbers?"
Granted, I am assuming that this took place in the United States in the latter half of the twentieth century/beginning of the the twenty-first, as not all countries have seven digit phone numbers. Heck, we remember area codes as well. And our social security numbers (nine digits), drivers license numbers (mine is 13 alphanumeric digits), etc.
No way. Just a no-CPU, no-memory case and motherboard costs $500. More like $2000 to $3000 for an old quad.
I am actually in the process of building a quad xeon right now with bits and pieces I bought off of E-Bay, and this is certainly doable. Not sure about the $500, but $2000-$3000 is high. I have the motherboard and memory riser now for $150, I am pretty sure that I can get a used rackmount case for $100 or so, the CPU's are going to cost around $60-70 each (P-III Xeon 500's), and memory is cheap as well.
I figure I will be in it for around $1000 in the end. Yes, $500 is a low number, but I also know that your estimates of $2000-3000 is high.
...he seems to think Internet applications are going to be big with consumers... I can't really see it...
I can see it, and here is why: As technology spreads throughout the world, the devices are going to become easier and easier to come by. Soon they will just be a part of life for everyone. Look at how televisions are in every household now, and a radio in every car. This is just standard progress, and the devices that are based on the technology will just get simpler and simpler to use.
I was particularly enamoured by Alan's example of the Black and Decker equipment, "So I could see in a few years' time owning a home PC becomes kind of like the Black & Decker DIY kit -- it's something people have because they enjoy that kind of thing, not something people have because they want to get on with certain specific tasks."
...seeing as a good portion of the Government Funded stem-cell research in the United States has been halted.
I know of quite a few programs that are occurring without the funding of the government due to the restrictions that have been placed on that kind of funding, for instance some of the research that goes on here.
Unfortunately, checking their website shows that only business machines will have a Linux option; home machines are still WinXP only."
As has been said before, Dell is still offering linux on their machines for business and server applications as well. Both Dell and HP have realized that linux is not quite ready for the home desktop, and quite rightly so.
Reminds me of this Gallagher joke: Why don't they just give the homes by the airport to deaf people?
What has always annoyed me are these people that build next to an airport that has been there for many years (some dating back to before World War II), then have the gall to complain a couple of years later about the jet noise they hear every day because of the airport that was there when they built their dream homes. If they didn't want the jet noise in the first place, they should have built somewhere else.
Common Air Force bumper sticker: Jet Noise: The Sound of Freedom
Looks like XFS is still not about to be included in the main development tree, which is too bad since it is a great filesystem. I guess that I am going to have to continue getting my updates from SGI.
From what I remember of the Intel roadmap around 1998, Intel was supposed to have come out with a 100Mhz Celeron chipset sometime in the year 2000. Obviously this didn't happen on time...
Unfortunately, you have to worry about the high level of evaporation, and having exposure to the air promotes growth of stuff (algae &C) that can easily clog your cooling block.
He actually goes into this on the website, and there are ways to handle the problems with biological growth in the system. The loss of water due to evaporation is a side effect that cannot be avoided, but apparently the problem was not that severe so long as the water levels were kept up at the frequency that you would maintain a plant or something. Heck, you could put a plant near the outlet of this thing just to keep it moistened, then all you would have to worry about is watering a plant.:)
You can also use a nifty chemical marketed under the name "Florinert" I believe... completely non-conductive. I remember seeing an overclocking test where they submerged the MB in this stuff and started pouring in liquid nitrogen too... very cool!
I remember this test. They started out by cooling the system down with CO2 to get the temperatures down, then hit it with the liquid nitrogen. At that point they believe that one or more of the capacitors on the motherboard cracked, and that was the end of the test.
If you use destilled water it doesn't conduct and you should be fine, even IF it leaks.
True, but the problem remains that if that water leaks, it is most likely going to pick up deposits off of the motherboard and become conductive. Think of all of the dust and grime that collects inside of a case as time goes by due to the power supply fans and whichever other fans happen to be in there.
I do know of one case where someone tried to submerge their entire motherboard, power supply, and daughter cards, but they used mineral oil instead of water. This would be over at Dr. Ffreeze's website.
I think one of the best water coolers I have ever seen was when these guys built a heat exchanger on the principle of heat loss through water evaporation. Very nice concept, and it approached the idea of cooling water down properly in the first place.
It's been tried. There are a couple of sites out there about doing this very thing to a motherboard, such as at the Mission Impossible site.
The problem appears that it is pretty hard to get from a sub zero level of -40C to the much cooler temperatures that liquid nitrogen provides without cracking something on the motherboard or CPU and killing the system completely.
Would the world aviation regulatory agencies such as the FAA approve these for use on commercial airplanes?
The FAA has problems with nail clippers, and you think that they are going to approve something that has the remote possibility of exploding? Next thing you know they are going to start banning the shipment of cows via air shipment due to the possibility of spontaneous combustion (OK, this is not a feasible thing in the first place, but still.)
No, I am not comparing video games to "real" guns. I am stating that the games we play have an effect on what we do in life.
I remember playing games such as Carmageddon and the like for hours on end with friends, then getting into a real car later on with them and jokingly pointing out people on the streets and saying "100 points!"
Yes, I am able to seperate a game from reality, but there are those out there that are not able to, or possibly don't want to.
The game depicts a hooligan running around, carjacking vehicles all over the place, etc. In.au, there is a ban on guns, but as I stated in the first place, criminals don't care one iota about what is banned and what is not, because they are criminals and breaking the ban is what they do.
Well, what do you expect. What with the major gun bans down there and all, they want to keep ideas out of the heads of the punks down there that would do this sort of thing, since none of the true law abiding citizens can protect themselves in the first place because their means of protection (guns) have been taken away from them.
Thieves and hooligans don't care about laws when they are stealing your possessions, so why should they care about laws banning guns?
...google were a publicly traded stock. It is things like this that make me want to invest in a company that I believe is doing a good job at what they do.
Google provides me with a tool that helps me in my job, allowing me to search for fixes to problems that I run into. No other service provides me with the flexibility and capability that google provides.
If I could purchase stock in this company I would purchase it in a heartbeat.
So what happens when the vehicle loses power while driving?
I can see it now. The monitors go blank, you can't see a thing out the window, and you are driving down the Interstate at 85 miles an hour. What do you do? Crash, that's what.
Also, I can imagine that people who suffer from claustrophobia would have a hard time in a vehicle such as this, no matter if they are seeing the outside through a virtual method.
I guess I just do not see the use of virtual monitors in vehicles happening for some time to come. Glass is cheap, and can be strengthened to provide quite a bit of protection.
I see no slam in this piece of news at all. It is merely informing us of the fact that Microsoft is going to drop their support of software that has reached it's end of life.
Microsoft is now four to five revisions away from their release of Windows 95 (depends on how you look at the release sequence and what you count as being a release), and six years beyond that time of release. The hardware being put out these days is almost 100% not a part of the original HCL for Windows 95, and Microsoft has done a decent job of keeping things up to date with Windows 95 anyway.
With new faster hardware coming out everyday, and new software taking advantage of that new hardware, there has to be updates to the underlying operating system to support both the hardware and software coming out. Windows 95 can't do that anymore.
Yes, it's only a 2.5" drive on these things, but most of laptops that are coming out these days have at least a 20gb harddrive in them, and when I order new drives for laptops, I never go smaller than a 40gb drive.
You would think that they could simply go with a nice large capacity drive in the first place and be done with it.
Sure, become a government agency. Then you can become just like airport security workers! Efficiency can go straight down the tubes, your customers will complain on deaf ears day in and day out, but you will be paid just the same from taxpayer dollars...
The point here is that, when Microsoft has a fix for something that is broken with their software, they are the only distributers of that software. With WU FTP, there are multiple distributers using the software.
Not that I think Redhat is wrong here. They released a security fix for their software as soon as they could, thus protecting their customer base.
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Oh, and BTW, the article also mentions problems with the 75X and 40X drives.
I know that we have been having a ton of problems with the Maxtor 40gb drives as well. I can't count how many of those drives we have sent back for RMA replacement. Heck, Maxtor knows me on a first name basis these days. And this is despite the industry praise for these drives...
Then she went "How do you remember 7 numbers?"
To which my response would have been, "How do you remember phone numbers?"
Granted, I am assuming that this took place in the United States in the latter half of the twentieth century/beginning of the the twenty-first, as not all countries have seven digit phone numbers. Heck, we remember area codes as well. And our social security numbers (nine digits), drivers license numbers (mine is 13 alphanumeric digits), etc.
What was she, a complete idiot?
No way. Just a no-CPU, no-memory case and
motherboard costs $500. More like $2000
to $3000 for an old quad.
I am actually in the process of building a quad xeon right now with bits and pieces I bought off of E-Bay, and this is certainly doable. Not sure about the $500, but $2000-$3000 is high. I have the motherboard and memory riser now for $150, I am pretty sure that I can get a used rackmount case for $100 or so, the CPU's are going to cost around $60-70 each (P-III Xeon 500's), and memory is cheap as well.
I figure I will be in it for around $1000 in the end. Yes, $500 is a low number, but I also know that your estimates of $2000-3000 is high.
...he seems to think Internet applications are going to be big with consumers... I can't really see it...
I can see it, and here is why: As technology spreads throughout the world, the devices are going to become easier and easier to come by. Soon they will just be a part of life for everyone. Look at how televisions are in every household now, and a radio in every car. This is just standard progress, and the devices that are based on the technology will just get simpler and simpler to use.
I was particularly enamoured by Alan's example of the Black and Decker equipment, "So I could see in a few years' time owning a home PC becomes kind of like the Black & Decker DIY kit -- it's something people have because they enjoy that kind of thing, not something people have because they want to get on with certain specific tasks."
...seeing as a good portion of the Government Funded stem-cell research in the United States has been halted.
I know of quite a few programs that are occurring without the funding of the government due to the restrictions that have been placed on that kind of funding, for instance some of the research that goes on here.
Unfortunately, checking their website shows that only business machines will have a Linux option; home machines are still WinXP only."
As has been said before, Dell is still offering linux on their machines for business and server applications as well. Both Dell and HP have realized that linux is not quite ready for the home desktop, and quite rightly so.
Reminds me of this Gallagher joke: Why don't they just give the homes by the airport to deaf people?
What has always annoyed me are these people that build next to an airport that has been there for many years (some dating back to before World War II), then have the gall to complain a couple of years later about the jet noise they hear every day because of the airport that was there when they built their dream homes. If they didn't want the jet noise in the first place, they should have built somewhere else.
Common Air Force bumper sticker: Jet Noise: The Sound of Freedom
Looks like XFS is still not about to be included in the main development tree, which is too bad since it is a great filesystem. I guess that I am going to have to continue getting my updates from SGI.
:-)
(Getting a kernel via CVS is SOOOO nice)
From what I remember of the Intel roadmap around 1998, Intel was supposed to have come out with a 100Mhz Celeron chipset sometime in the year 2000. Obviously this didn't happen on time...
Unfortunately, you have to worry about the high level of evaporation, and having exposure to the air promotes growth of stuff (algae &C) that can easily clog your cooling block.
:)
He actually goes into this on the website, and there are ways to handle the problems with biological growth in the system. The loss of water due to evaporation is a side effect that cannot be avoided, but apparently the problem was not that severe so long as the water levels were kept up at the frequency that you would maintain a plant or something. Heck, you could put a plant near the outlet of this thing just to keep it moistened, then all you would have to worry about is watering a plant.
You can also use a nifty chemical marketed under the name "Florinert" I believe... completely non-conductive. I remember seeing an overclocking test where they submerged the MB in this stuff and started pouring in liquid nitrogen too... very cool!
I remember this test. They started out by cooling the system down with CO2 to get the temperatures down, then hit it with the liquid nitrogen. At that point they believe that one or more of the capacitors on the motherboard cracked, and that was the end of the test.
If you use destilled water it doesn't conduct and you should be fine, even IF it leaks.
True, but the problem remains that if that water leaks, it is most likely going to pick up deposits off of the motherboard and become conductive. Think of all of the dust and grime that collects inside of a case as time goes by due to the power supply fans and whichever other fans happen to be in there.
I do know of one case where someone tried to submerge their entire motherboard, power supply, and daughter cards, but they used mineral oil instead of water. This would be over at Dr. Ffreeze's website.
I think one of the best water coolers I have ever seen was when these guys built a heat exchanger on the principle of heat loss through water evaporation. Very nice concept, and it approached the idea of cooling water down properly in the first place.
It's been tried. There are a couple of sites out there about doing this very thing to a motherboard, such as at the Mission Impossible site.
The problem appears that it is pretty hard to get from a sub zero level of -40C to the much cooler temperatures that liquid nitrogen provides without cracking something on the motherboard or CPU and killing the system completely.
Would the world aviation regulatory agencies such as the FAA approve these for use on commercial airplanes?
The FAA has problems with nail clippers, and you think that they are going to approve something that has the remote possibility of exploding? Next thing you know they are going to start banning the shipment of cows via air shipment due to the possibility of spontaneous combustion (OK, this is not a feasible thing in the first place, but still.)
...when you can turn on the "Winds of Space"
--Steven Levy fans will understand...
No, I am not comparing video games to "real" guns. I am stating that the games we play have an effect on what we do in life.
.au, there is a ban on guns, but as I stated in the first place, criminals don't care one iota about what is banned and what is not, because they are criminals and breaking the ban is what they do.
I remember playing games such as Carmageddon and the like for hours on end with friends, then getting into a real car later on with them and jokingly pointing out people on the streets and saying "100 points!"
Yes, I am able to seperate a game from reality, but there are those out there that are not able to, or possibly don't want to.
The game depicts a hooligan running around, carjacking vehicles all over the place, etc. In
Well, what do you expect. What with the major gun bans down there and all, they want to keep ideas out of the heads of the punks down there that would do this sort of thing, since none of the true law abiding citizens can protect themselves in the first place because their means of protection (guns) have been taken away from them.
Thieves and hooligans don't care about laws when they are stealing your possessions, so why should they care about laws banning guns?
...google were a publicly traded stock. It is things like this that make me want to invest in a company that I believe is doing a good job at what they do.
Google provides me with a tool that helps me in my job, allowing me to search for fixes to problems that I run into. No other service provides me with the flexibility and capability that google provides.
If I could purchase stock in this company I would purchase it in a heartbeat.
So what happens when the vehicle loses power while driving?
I can see it now. The monitors go blank, you can't see a thing out the window, and you are driving down the Interstate at 85 miles an hour. What do you do? Crash, that's what.
Also, I can imagine that people who suffer from claustrophobia would have a hard time in a vehicle such as this, no matter if they are seeing the outside through a virtual method.
I guess I just do not see the use of virtual monitors in vehicles happening for some time to come. Glass is cheap, and can be strengthened to provide quite a bit of protection.
I see no slam in this piece of news at all. It is merely informing us of the fact that Microsoft is going to drop their support of software that has reached it's end of life.
Microsoft is now four to five revisions away from their release of Windows 95 (depends on how you look at the release sequence and what you count as being a release), and six years beyond that time of release. The hardware being put out these days is almost 100% not a part of the original HCL for Windows 95, and Microsoft has done a decent job of keeping things up to date with Windows 95 anyway.
With new faster hardware coming out everyday, and new software taking advantage of that new hardware, there has to be updates to the underlying operating system to support both the hardware and software coming out. Windows 95 can't do that anymore.
Yes, it's only a 2.5" drive on these things, but most of laptops that are coming out these days have at least a 20gb harddrive in them, and when I order new drives for laptops, I never go smaller than a 40gb drive.
You would think that they could simply go with a nice large capacity drive in the first place and be done with it.
Just as a quick note, Grand Theft Auto 3 will be coming out for the PC sometime in the Spring of 2002.
You can check out the website here.
Sure, become a government agency. Then you can become just like airport security workers! Efficiency can go straight down the tubes, your customers will complain on deaf ears day in and day out, but you will be paid just the same from taxpayer dollars...
The point here is that, when Microsoft has a fix for something that is broken with their software, they are the only distributers of that software. With WU FTP, there are multiple distributers using the software.
Not that I think Redhat is wrong here. They released a security fix for their software as soon as they could, thus protecting their customer base.