Speaking as someone that used to mark compsci programming assignments I would fail both people if they had the code in the second example. It's a little too tricky to have the exact same thing come up unless worked on.
Having said that I doubt this will affect the future of linux. IBM has too much to lose they'll just crush SCO if they have to.
This is entirely true. This is also why I believe sony will continue to lead the market. By producing everything themselves sony has been able to undercut microsoft on hardware from day 1. The PS2 price announcement instantly signed the dreamcasts death certificate and started burning microsofts money. Until microsoft brings the hardware entirely into it's control and stops rebadging a PC they will be forced to work with suppliers and they will make less on hardware. Nintendo will probably chug along making games for kids and remain a distant 3rd until one of the others is finally wiped out. I think microsoft will leave the market when their sky high margins on the OS and office markets start to take a serious hit.
Today I had my boss bring in two of her home machines. THe first was infected the other was not. So I cleaned up the first one while she installed the patches on the second. An hour later she couldn't log in on the second, this was because the patch had replaced some of her settings and her weird mouse configuration didn't work anymore. Once I got that sorted out I decided to update the virus software and check the updates. virus software updated and the windows update said it was upto date. So I took it outside of the firewall to test. 45 seconds later it was infected but under control by the antivirus software. Apparently the update hadn't actually worked. I manually installed the patch cleaned up the system and then tested. This time no infection within 5 minutes. I gave it back to her, pointed out that my linux system was quicker on older hardware, cost me nothing but a little time during the install and easy learning curve, and I hadn't had a security issue in over a year. Oh and I trust the updates to work and not blow everything up.
She didn't really care till I told her what the XP on that machine cost, and that I made $100 while fixing it for her. I'm allowed linux on my desktop at work now, before it was just on a couple of servers:)
So guys keep on writing those windows worms. Soon I'll enjoy my job again.
Is it any surprise that we're all so bored at work. Yes it's busy and I have to work hard. But it feels completely pointless. Obviously it's because I haven't had to fight anyone to the death lately. Really, If we evolved from these people and they evolved to fight for their lives most of the time what is happening now that we don't use any of these skills. My last meal took fighting it out of the plastic bag into the microwave. I actually got mad that I had to wash a fork to eat it. Excellent use of those skills that took hundreds of generations to develop.
I may have to browse at -1 from now on. This is easily the best thing posted all day.
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That is funny, however I'm wondering what microsoft was doing there? Are they using or at least working with linux these days or was this just another chance to spread FUD?
Maybe I've just grown tired of hearing people ask when linux will become mainstream. I no longer care if it does.
I used to sell customers systems with an OS that cost way too much for what they got(no not an MS product) We developed using tools that cost a hell of a lot and didn't offer much more functionality then syntax highlighting. The systems just up and crashed at times and noone could explain it.
The customers eventually got mad about the stability of the system. So we're replacing it. Linux, Mysql, php, apache and a whole lot of custom modules.
So far in testing the users are much happier, the developers are happier and the over all systems cost far less which we directly pocket as profit. The customers could care less that the system is built on free software, they just need it to work.
Does it really matter if grandma doesn't use linux at home? In the early days it didn't matter that noone used linux for anything. People still made it and now it's useful, that will never change.
Like everything it depends on your experiences. I'd concider buying a car from Hyundai. And I may buy a truck from ford or GM but I've found most of their cars to be crap. There are exceptions of course. I'd kill for a ford escort cosworth. I'll never buy another cavalier. The tiberon looks pretty good, but I wouldn't buy the elantra.
IN north america the domestics rule and are inexpensive, it's the cheap imports that are garbage. In europe It's almost impossible to find a chevy, and fords are not very popular. In asia North american brands are quite rare to see. However the entire world is linked and most of the companies are owned in part or completely by one of the big three automakers.
The big difference between me and the general public is I like cars, and I spend lots of time looking into them and working on them. The general public just buys what looks good, and they can afford.
agreed, he should have noticed. But how many people do you know that have the knowledge to do that? Here in canada everyone I know has dsl or cable connections. Half of them have almost no real capabilities on the computer. They rely on the machine being secure out of the box. It of course isn't and they become easy targets.
I've moved 3 gig a day off my box. With dsl around here you don't get a slow down doing it. unless your watching the lights on the modem flicker you wouldn't notice anything.
As I pointed out elsewhere on this article. Most of the fserves are hacked boxes. I know because I've had to clean one up. It took a warning from the ISP before my buddy realized what was going on.
For all you guys saying IRC is where you'll make your trades, you should know it won't scale and they do monitor it. My buddy received a warning from his ISP that someone had asked he be tracked down due to file sharing on an IRC channel. The kicker is he was sharing and didn't know it, someone had taken over his win 2k box and was running a bot on it to share movies. It's been almost a year so I don't remember the name of the kit but It took about 10 seconds of hunting on google to get info about it once we located it.
On a related note, I've been running Freenet for awhile, and the new version is pretty good. Although the flood of new people thanks to the slashdot post did slow things down for awhile, it's faster then ever now.
Perhaps this variation of basic is slightly different. But all variables in a gosub are automatically global in nature and I don't believe I can even declare the variables local. This basic also contains a function structure but it makes With out data encapsulation I could care less if it's technically a function , It functions exactly the same as a goto with parameter passing
I'm also still programming in a basic variant at work. All that object oriented stuff I learned at University just exists to give me a way to measure the pain I feel every day. I'm currently working on a program that thanks to the use of gosubs, and not functions is pretty much just a 50,000 line long Main. Thank god the company is working on funding so we can do a complete rewrite of the system, and move away from the obscure little OS we're trapped on as well.
Before anyone comments about refactoring and not rewriting here are some of the problems with the existing system.
No design was ever done, it's just 20 years of hacks stacked on top of each other.
lead programmer that was here about 5 years ago decided the commenting made the code hard to read. he wrote a script and removed all of it from the 3000 programs.
The OS has hardware support that makes Linux in 96 look like the promised land.
We tested if linux could handle what we currently do perormance wise. The main system is a 2.4 P4 with 512 mb of ram. linux matched it's performance on a 486 100 with 64 mb. This probably has to do with the fact that the system sends every disk access to the parallel port for a dongle to OK it.
I took notes on pads of paper and then each night or so typed them up in nice formating on the computer. When taking notes you learn very little It's just a mad rush to get everything down. At night I learned a lot or at least got a second chance to review the material.
The most important thing I got at university was in my third year I upgraded from a 486 100 to a p3 450, cutting my java compile times from an hour to 2 minutes. Worth every penny. After graduating I preplaced my 15" monitor with a 19" and wish I had done that years before. Beyond that I didn't need anything else to go to school. A discman was nice untill we got mp3's playing on the sparcs after that I just packed around a set of headphones.
A laptop may have been easier since I moved close to a dozen times over the years, but other then that I found that a pc with high speed connection is all I really need.
Yes the megasquirt is fuel only. But last time I checked they had been working on the megaJolt to handle the timing. http://www.bgsoflex.com/mjl/mjl_edis.html
Really both are simple in concept. The problem comes in when doing the calculations in realtime at 9000rpm.
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Not sure, How could I check? The machine is a 700 with 256mb/ram so I assumed it was just a little to slow to handle everything else running in the background. Might it also have to do with the video drivers? suse 8.2 didn't detect my radeon 9000 pro although I see drivers for it in the emerge tree so gentoo should. I just ran with a default driver for an older ati card.
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Nope my problem was in actually installing the driver for the sound card, I got errors for awhile and then eventually the system said I was successful. But alsa wouldn't load ever. I had been switching hardware in the box and just hoping the machine would keep up to the changes at the time, so I'm not at all suprised that it got flakey on me. On a good note the new version of gentoo just auto detected the card from the live cd. A couple of days of compile time and I'll know if it's good to go;)
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I first installed gentoo last november and I loved it after the initial hell of installation. However one day a power outage corrupted the drives in both of my machines and I went to suse 8.1 on one machine and put win2000 back on the other.
kde crashed almost daily so I removed suse and put gentoo back on that box. Everything was great and I decided to ditch win2000 for gentoo.
The install was hell as always and things went fine untill I tried to get alsa support for my sbLive going. I fought with it for 3 days before deciding to try the newly released suse 8.2.
Suse install was great but there is too much installed by default. Divx and DVD movies both skip during playback. They don't on the same hardware under windows, and they didn't under gentoo way back.
So today I'm prepairing to install gentoo on this box again. Hopefully with the new rc4 the hardware detection is improved a little and I can get the sound working.
(the sb live works for thousands of gentoo users so it has to be something I'm doing that is causing it to fail)
Anyways, I love the portage system. If someone would make a nice gui installer for gentoo I'd be loving life.
DSL Not sure of the max speed torrent worked up to 115kB/s down and climbing still upload at 40 kB/s. also have 2 other movies coming down on torrent about 80kB/s combined, upload on them is 70kB/s
This is still true these days. My company relies on a small OS called Theos. they still charge in exactly this manner, and they charge a hell of a lot for it. The cost as well as the limited hardware support has us techs looking into alternatives. We've proposed a complete rewrite of all our software (3000+ programs) on a Linux based system. The problem is managment is very out of the loop and don't see the problems with the current os. I'll be moving away from theos soon though, if they can't make the changes necessary I'll end up leaving the company.
I think this would be a great buy if I had 5k and an easy place to dispose of the leftovers. 4 50hp DC motors along with many other smaller engines? I'd love to have those kicking around for projects. The rest of the car would be garbage to me but there is enough stuff to peel off of that car I think It's worth it. Perhaps I'm overestimating the value of those motors though. It's difficult to find hard pricing on such items.
If I build my own car I am exempt from most safety standards. Beyond then basic Needing bumpers at X height and working lights/horn.... there are no standards on kit cars. In many locations you don't even need to do emissions testing. Would it be so bad to have Similar rules for software? The powers that be shouldn't care if the machine fails to open windows on demand, but they should care if that machine could be dangerous to other machines
We had the Onecard system at my school. Best hack we found was with the printing system. Insert a card with $30 on it in the machine toy print for $0.10 say this is my print job, wait for it to read amount on card. take out the card and put in a card with $0 on it. hit yes to print. $29.90 will be wrote to the card. Everyone I knew had $100 on the card in no time once we "borrowed" a profs card. We also got to print at half price by taking a copy of his card.
People also spent time sniffing the one card network, but as far as I know no one had found anything interesting yet. this was 4 years ago, so I'd assume the entire thing is solved by now.
Before anyone gets too mad about them hacking up a perfectly usable car, this car had to be destroyed anyways. It was a preproduction vehicle. After one year they all must be crushed due to regulations. I personally think this is a pretty cool way to finish one off. I also would like to see a demo derby of them. You can't tell me you wouldn't love to see what happens when a viper hits a vette on purpose.
You can get a minor boost in power from water injection. This happens in 2 ways. 1 the water cools the intake air, and cooler air is more dense giving you more power. The other way I've heard is the high heat splits the water and then the two parts burn. What water injection is really good for is it helps prevent detonation in high boost engines, and your pistons get a nice steam cleaning every cycle. Power gains are usually not worth mentioning 1-2% at best.
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Speaking as someone that used to mark compsci programming assignments I would fail both people if they had the code in the second example. It's a little too tricky to have the exact same thing come up unless worked on.
Having said that I doubt this will affect the future of linux. IBM has too much to lose they'll just crush SCO if they have to.
This is entirely true. This is also why I believe sony will continue to lead the market. By producing everything themselves sony has been able to undercut microsoft on hardware from day 1. The PS2 price announcement instantly signed the dreamcasts death certificate and started burning microsofts money. Until microsoft brings the hardware entirely into it's control and stops rebadging a PC they will be forced to work with suppliers and they will make less on hardware. Nintendo will probably chug along making games for kids and remain a distant 3rd until one of the others is finally wiped out. I think microsoft will leave the market when their sky high margins on the OS and office markets start to take a serious hit.
Today I had my boss bring in two of her home machines. THe first was infected the other was not. So I cleaned up the first one while she installed the patches on the second. An hour later she couldn't log in on the second, this was because the patch had replaced some of her settings and her weird mouse configuration didn't work anymore. Once I got that sorted out I decided to update the virus software and check the updates. virus software updated and the windows update said it was upto date. So I took it outside of the firewall to test. 45 seconds later it was infected but under control by the antivirus software. Apparently the update hadn't actually worked. I manually installed the patch cleaned up the system and then tested. This time no infection within 5 minutes. I gave it back to her, pointed out that my linux system was quicker on older hardware, cost me nothing but a little time during the install and easy learning curve, and I hadn't had a security issue in over a year. Oh and I trust the updates to work and not blow everything up.
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She didn't really care till I told her what the XP on that machine cost, and that I made $100 while fixing it for her. I'm allowed linux on my desktop at work now, before it was just on a couple of servers
So guys keep on writing those windows worms. Soon I'll enjoy my job again.
Is it any surprise that we're all so bored at work. Yes it's busy and I have to work hard. But it feels completely pointless. Obviously it's because I haven't had to fight anyone to the death lately. Really, If we evolved from these people and they evolved to fight for their lives most of the time what is happening now that we don't use any of these skills. My last meal took fighting it out of the plastic bag into the microwave. I actually got mad that I had to wash a fork to eat it. Excellent use of those skills that took hundreds of generations to develop.
I may have to browse at -1 from now on. This is easily the best thing posted all day.
That is funny, however I'm wondering what microsoft was doing there? Are they using or at least working with linux these days or was this just another chance to spread FUD?
Maybe I've just grown tired of hearing people ask when linux will become mainstream. I no longer care if it does.
I used to sell customers systems with an OS that cost way too much for what they got(no not an MS product) We developed using tools that cost a hell of a lot and didn't offer much more functionality then syntax highlighting. The systems just up and crashed at times and noone could explain it.
The customers eventually got mad about the stability of the system. So we're replacing it. Linux, Mysql, php, apache and a whole lot of custom modules.
So far in testing the users are much happier, the developers are happier and the over all systems cost far less which we directly pocket as profit. The customers could care less that the system is built on free software, they just need it to work.
Does it really matter if grandma doesn't use linux at home? In the early days it didn't matter that noone used linux for anything. People still made it and now it's useful, that will never change.
Like everything it depends on your experiences. I'd concider buying a car from Hyundai. And I may buy a truck from ford or GM but I've found most of their cars to be crap. There are exceptions of course. I'd kill for a ford escort cosworth. I'll never buy another cavalier. The tiberon looks pretty good, but I wouldn't buy the elantra.
IN north america the domestics rule and are inexpensive, it's the cheap imports that are garbage. In europe It's almost impossible to find a chevy, and fords are not very popular. In asia North american brands are quite rare to see. However the entire world is linked and most of the companies are owned in part or completely by one of the big three automakers.
The big difference between me and the general public is I like cars, and I spend lots of time looking into them and working on them. The general public just buys what looks good, and they can afford.
agreed, he should have noticed. But how many people do you know that have the knowledge to do that? Here in canada everyone I know has dsl or cable connections. Half of them have almost no real capabilities on the computer. They rely on the machine being secure out of the box. It of course isn't and they become easy targets.
I've moved 3 gig a day off my box. With dsl around here you don't get a slow down doing it. unless your watching the lights on the modem flicker you wouldn't notice anything.
As I pointed out elsewhere on this article. Most of the fserves are hacked boxes. I know because I've had to clean one up. It took a warning from the ISP before my buddy realized what was going on.
For all you guys saying IRC is where you'll make your trades, you should know it won't scale and they do monitor it. My buddy received a warning from his ISP that someone had asked he be tracked down due to file sharing on an IRC channel. The kicker is he was sharing and didn't know it, someone had taken over his win 2k box and was running a bot on it to share movies. It's been almost a year so I don't remember the name of the kit but It took about 10 seconds of hunting on google to get info about it once we located it.
On a related note, I've been running Freenet for awhile, and the new version is pretty good. Although the flood of new people thanks to the slashdot post did slow things down for awhile, it's faster then ever now.
Perhaps this variation of basic is slightly different. But all variables in a gosub are automatically global in nature and I don't believe I can even declare the variables local. This basic also contains a function structure but it makes With out data encapsulation I could care less if it's technically a function , It functions exactly the same as a goto with parameter passing
I'm also still programming in a basic variant at work. All that object oriented stuff I learned at University just exists to give me a way to measure the pain I feel every day. I'm currently working on a program that thanks to the use of gosubs, and not functions is pretty much just a 50,000 line long Main. Thank god the company is working on funding so we can do a complete rewrite of the system, and move away from the obscure little OS we're trapped on as well.
Before anyone comments about refactoring and not rewriting here are some of the problems with the existing system.
No design was ever done, it's just 20 years of hacks stacked on top of each other.
lead programmer that was here about 5 years ago decided the commenting made the code hard to read. he wrote a script and removed all of it from the 3000 programs.
The OS has hardware support that makes Linux in 96 look like the promised land.
We tested if linux could handle what we currently do perormance wise. The main system is a 2.4 P4 with 512 mb of ram. linux matched it's performance on a 486 100 with 64 mb. This probably has to do with the fact that the system sends every disk access to the parallel port for a dongle to OK it.
I took notes on pads of paper and then each night or so typed them up in nice formating on the computer. When taking notes you learn very little It's just a mad rush to get everything down. At night I learned a lot or at least got a second chance to review the material.
The most important thing I got at university was in my third year I upgraded from a 486 100 to a p3 450, cutting my java compile times from an hour to 2 minutes. Worth every penny. After graduating I preplaced my 15" monitor with a 19" and wish I had done that years before. Beyond that I didn't need anything else to go to school. A discman was nice untill we got mp3's playing on the sparcs after that I just packed around a set of headphones.
A laptop may have been easier since I moved close to a dozen times over the years, but other then that I found that a pc with high speed connection is all I really need.
Yes the megasquirt is fuel only. But last time I checked they had been working on the megaJolt to handle the timing. http://www.bgsoflex.com/mjl/mjl_edis.html
Really both are simple in concept. The problem comes in when doing the calculations in realtime at 9000rpm.
Not sure, How could I check? The machine is a 700 with 256mb/ram so I assumed it was just a little to slow to handle everything else running in the background. Might it also have to do with the video drivers? suse 8.2 didn't detect my radeon 9000 pro although I see drivers for it in the emerge tree so gentoo should. I just ran with a default driver for an older ati card.
Nope my problem was in actually installing the driver for the sound card, I got errors for awhile and then eventually the system said I was successful. But alsa wouldn't load ever. I had been switching hardware in the box and just hoping the machine would keep up to the changes at the time, so I'm not at all suprised that it got flakey on me. On a good note the new version of gentoo just auto detected the card from the live cd. A couple of days of compile time and I'll know if it's good to go ;)
I first installed gentoo last november and I loved it after the initial hell of installation. However one day a power outage corrupted the drives in both of my machines and I went to suse 8.1 on one machine and put win2000 back on the other.
kde crashed almost daily so I removed suse and put gentoo back on that box. Everything was great and I decided to ditch win2000 for gentoo.
The install was hell as always and things went fine untill I tried to get alsa support for my sbLive going. I fought with it for 3 days before deciding to try the newly released suse 8.2.
Suse install was great but there is too much installed by default. Divx and DVD movies both skip during playback. They don't on the same hardware under windows, and they didn't under gentoo way back.
So today I'm prepairing to install gentoo on this box again. Hopefully with the new rc4 the hardware detection is improved a little and I can get the sound working.
(the sb live works for thousands of gentoo users so it has to be something I'm doing that is causing it to fail)
Anyways, I love the portage system. If someone would make a nice gui installer for gentoo I'd be loving life.
DSL Not sure of the max speed
torrent worked up to 115kB/s down and climbing still upload at 40 kB/s. also have 2 other movies coming down on torrent about 80kB/s combined, upload on them is 70kB/s
This is still true these days. My company relies on a small OS called Theos. they still charge in exactly this manner, and they charge a hell of a lot for it. The cost as well as the limited hardware support has us techs looking into alternatives. We've proposed a complete rewrite of all our software (3000+ programs) on a Linux based system. The problem is managment is very out of the loop and don't see the problems with the current os. I'll be moving away from theos soon though, if they can't make the changes necessary I'll end up leaving the company.
I think this would be a great buy if I had 5k and an easy place to dispose of the leftovers. 4 50hp DC motors along with many other smaller engines? I'd love to have those kicking around for projects. The rest of the car would be garbage to me but there is enough stuff to peel off of that car I think It's worth it. Perhaps I'm overestimating the value of those motors though. It's difficult to find hard pricing on such items.
If I build my own car I am exempt from most safety standards. Beyond then basic Needing bumpers at X height and working lights/horn.... there are no standards on kit cars. In many locations you don't even need to do emissions testing.
Would it be so bad to have Similar rules for software? The powers that be shouldn't care if the machine fails to open windows on demand, but they should care if that machine could be dangerous to other machines
We had the Onecard system at my school. Best hack we found was with the printing system. Insert a card with $30 on it in the machine toy print for $0.10 say this is my print job, wait for it to read amount on card. take out the card and put in a card with $0 on it. hit yes to print. $29.90 will be wrote to the card. Everyone I knew had $100 on the card in no time once we "borrowed" a profs card. We also got to print at half price by taking a copy of his card.
People also spent time sniffing the one card network, but as far as I know no one had found anything interesting yet. this was 4 years ago, so I'd assume the entire thing is solved by now.
Before anyone gets too mad about them hacking up a perfectly usable car, this car had to be destroyed anyways. It was a preproduction vehicle. After one year they all must be crushed due to regulations. I personally think this is a pretty cool way to finish one off. I also would like to see a demo derby of them. You can't tell me you wouldn't love to see what happens when a viper hits a vette on purpose.
You can get a minor boost in power from water injection. This happens in 2 ways. 1 the water cools the intake air, and cooler air is more dense giving you more power. The other way I've heard is the high heat splits the water and then the two parts burn. What water injection is really good for is it helps prevent detonation in high boost engines, and your pistons get a nice steam cleaning every cycle. Power gains are usually not worth mentioning 1-2% at best.