Yes, the good old USA that brought us phone wiretapping,
And the telephone in the first place (albeit debatable).
Comstock laws,
Yes, it's a good thing the Catholic church didn't have such things in Europe prior to the existence of America.. The USA invented morality laws. And just look how liberal the middle east is about such things.
and the Espionage act,
Yup, no other country has had anything similar before or since, right?
immorality fears and the 'Production Code',
It's a good thing no other countries use a rating system on films and such now. I guess China and Russia owe the US a great debt for showing them the light when it comes to censorship. That's why they're such free, liberal places now. Just look at how well the LGBT movement is thriving outside of first world countries.
the yellow peril and internment camps,
That was one hell of an embarrassment, That must be where Europe came up with the idea for the Great Gypsy Roundup.
red scares, McCarthyism and global proxy wars, prohibition, the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover, the demonization of marijuana and psychedelics, the war on drugs, and on, and on...
Maoism, Nazism, Genocide in Darfur, KGB, blah, blah, blah.
and don't get me started on slavery and civil rights.
Wait, you're claiming the USA brought slavery to the world too?
From the Salem witch trials forward
First witch trial was in the 14th century in Ireland, by the way.
America has been famous for getting itself in a tizzy over imagined moral threats, then following through with the most draconian of knee-jerk responses.
Yes, that god that America is the only country on the entire planet that does this. Ethnic groups of humans outside of America have never blamed other for their ills.
Not to mention the hazards of having 20 lb of plastic and steel falling several feet out of the sky onto who knows what?Â
If it weighs 20 lbs., then it probably has autonomous features and won't simply fall out of the sky.
Prolly won't work for a lot of them anyway, if they lose signal they're programmed to head home.Â
Which means it will not fall out of the sky. Since this is law enforcement, the drone will lead them straight to the operator. I'm not sure what you think the problem is.
Of course the rich Republicans drive around in $80,000 luxury pickups to try and show that they're from a working class country background.
They are also for family values and oppose gay marriage. But are the ones caught in extramarital affairs. Both hetero and homosexual.
Of course Democrats are all for stopping global warming, but fly around on private jets and have five star hotel sized homes. . They are also supposed to be for the poor. Unless they get too close to them on a non-election year.
I'm so tired of the two party system in the US. Both sides are full of shit. It's to the point that I look at them like they're more of a sports team than having anything to do with governing the country. Nobody even listens to what they say anymore, or seem to remember all of the campaign promises that they completely renege on once in office when they come up for reelection. GO TEAM (BLUE/RED)!!!
Hell, it's getting hard to even find a decent independent to vote for anymore. Most of them are someone from one of the two parties that the party lost confidence in, in winning a reelection. So they run as an "independent". But vote as if they are in the same party that tried to throw them under the bus.
Aren't H1B visa holders required to leave the country for a couple of weeks every year? That was my understanding when I worked at a company, years ago, that had a few.
Maybe it was all BS, but the company I worked for was based in the EU. So they wanted the H1B folks to come work out of the EU offices during that time rather than go home for a few weeks.
Mir was launched 13 years after Skylab. Big surprise it was more advanced.
Why let facts get in the way of America bashing?
The Soviet Union launched four space stations, starting in 1971, before Skylab went up in 1973 (not including prototypes and tests). Of course Skylab spent more time in orbit than the first five Salyut stations, Komos 557, and DOS-2 stations combined. And it wasn't until Salyut 7 (launched in 1982) before they kept a station in orbit for a longer period. Stupid piece of junk Skylab
Skylab had a puny 360 sq meters of pressurized volume. Until Mir, the largest pressurized volume in a Soviet space station was 100 sq. meters. But Mir dwarfed Skylab with it's 350 sq. meters of pressurized volume. Oh, wait. Crappy American space station.
I read about the reason, on the net, why America gave up on Skylab-B. Apparently they couldn't get the time machine working to get Pentium processors for the computers before Mir was launched. True story.
Or could it be the general socioeconomic factors prevalent in these same areas?
I was wondering the same thing. There usually isn't a lot of fracking in urban affluent areas. It tends to be in rural areas that are much poorer than what you would find in even the below average income areas of a city. Plus access to medical care is considerably less in those areas too.
My family was from a rural area in Pennsylvania. My grandmother had seven children and was in her seventies the first time she went to a hospital or a doctor's office. The family doctor made house calls back then. But he died when my father was seventeen. So my father hadn't had seen a doctor after that until he was in his seventies either, and has never been checked into a hospital. He was the first person in my family to go to college, and even got his masters. So he was certainly educated.
I was pretty much raised believing that you only go to the hospital to visit someone, or to die. Granted, as I've gotten (ahem) older, my wife has convinced me otherwise. I went to school as well, and even work in the medical field. But it's difficult to overcome what you're raised to believe.
I dont think it's overblown. But humans tend to live longer than most wild animals and thus makes us more fragile to the continuing radiated environment.
Is that why we develop super powers when we get bit by irradiated animals?
It's more like saying "Why are you buying 93 octane gas when you can use 87"? Except, saying it that way changes the whole meaning.
That's dependent on the context, isn't it? If you have a Toyota Camry, you'd be a fool to use anything higher than 87 octane. I have one car that requires a minimum of 89 octane and another that requires 93 octane. Both are stock engines. When I was younger I had a car with 12:1 compression pistons and a high lift cam. It needed 110 octane. In these cases, running 87 octane would be rather stupid as pre-detonation will lose a fair bit of horsepower and is really hard on your engine too.
I get quarterly water test results from my water company. There's typically some detectable amount of mercury, arsenic, and other crap I'd rather avoid drinking if I can. Yes, it's within what is considered safe levels. But how many "safe levels" have been set because they are simply too difficult or expensive to get any lower? Or don't appear to be a problem within a couple year period? Regardless, tap water just tastes really nasty to me.
Anyone who can't recognise the industry terms and marketing language in the parent post, and the purpose of carefully crafted structure of it... I have a slightly used bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Actually I'm in the medical industry. But was in the saltwater hobby for a very long time starting in the late 1970's. It's actually where my screen name is derived from. I kept reef tanks.
As far as "industry terms", I'm pretty sure I explained anything other than what ppm stood for, under the assumption that parts per million is a fairly standard measurement for anyone who took high-school chemistry. Everything else is very well known to anyone in the hobby.
I'm not sure what marketing language you think is in there, but, please, do tell what the purpose of my post was. Other than to relay information.
Everyone should note that for the most part bottled water is just "tap water" that has been filtered. At $1 plus a bottle (plus the almost always not recycled plastic bottle), why don't people just get a Britta filter for home or office? Filtered tap water is now more expensive than soda!
I'm happy to see you have a slightly better understanding than most of the people I hear complaining about this. I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard that brands like Dasani, Aquafinia, and Smartwater are "just tap water". That's akin to someone saying, "why are you putting gasoline in your car when you can buy a barrel of crude oil for so much less?".
Now that being said, a Brita filter is simply carbon filtration. The brands I mentioned, and many others, are filtered through multistage reverse osmosis units. Typically they start with a 10 micron fiber filter. Then a 5 micron carbon filter, which is probably about what a Britta filter is. The next stage is a 1 micron carbon filter, then through the RO membrane. And usually a final carbon filter. A really effective system with decent source water can get the total dissolved solids (TDS) down to 1 to 10 PPM. The feed water on my system at home is between 400 and 500 ppm, depending on the time of year. Usually the post RO water is in the 5 to 10 ppm range. I run that through a two stage dionization filter that takes it down to a TDS of 0 ppm. I used to keep saltwater invertebrates, so I needed a good filter to mix with salt. Since my tap water was so poor, I started drinking the filtered water and find most water with a TDS above 100 ppm to be pretty nasty tasting. Most of the filtered brands mix in some minerals and usually the TDS is in the 25 ppm range. I'll buy RO filtered water when I'm away from home, but use filtered water for the most part.
I'm not sure what the cost difference is for bottled water, but the fiber and three carbon filters on my system need to be changed every 6 to 12 months and the RO membrane every 4 to 5 years. The filters are $25 for all of them and a the RO membrane is $45. I used to recharge the DI resins, but they're $40 for five lbs. So I don't have to play with muriatic acid and lye any longer. There's also the cost of waste water. In the winter months, when the feed water is cold, the RO membrane rejects about 2 gallons of water for every gallon that passes through. When the feed water is warmer, it will reject more.
Now what is needed is to show how the government teamed up with their captured space aliens in order to change Earth's atmosphere for their alien overloads!
So you saw that documentary with Charlie Sheen too?
Your math is off by about an order of magnitude. 30000 days is about 1 lifetime (82.2 years); at two patents per day it would take half as long. Still a damn long time, though.
Yeah, how many judges are going to work for 82.2 years straight without taking a single weekend, holiday or vacation? If you fugue in a five day work week, three weeks of vacation and a dozen state/federal holidays, you're looking at 131.6 years. That's without sick days or personal time.
If you also figure in that no one is born a judge, and have to go through law school and probably some time as a lawyer, five lifetimes sounds about right to me.
But you have basically come to the end conclusion of a "club" which can already exist.
That depends on the location. In Maryland, you cannot. The only way it is legal to have the main purpose to be retail sale of tobacco. I actually bring that particular state up as I lived there when they banned smoking. The way the original law was written, it also defined a public place by the number of different people who accessed it during a set period of time. The number was very low and many people's homes would have counted as a public place.
According to Wikipedia Of the 28 states that have smoking bans on public places, only 7 (AZ, CT, IA, KS, MA, NY, OH) allow for private clubs that permit it.
As far as I could tell, the states that exempt bars, do so only if they do not admit anyone under the age of 21. So your question about children appears to already to have been addressed.
And do you block all children from entering, or atleast the teenagers coming to eat with friends?
Way to move the goal post. Regardless, I would think it would depend on the legal age for smoking, wouldn't it? Hell, bars already deal with this. If someone's under 21, they have to be accompanied by their guardian in most places. There are tobacco bars as well. Have smoking restaurants follow the same policy.
And how would I know when I enter a restaurant that half way through my meal the person in the table next to mine is not going to start spewing unknown chemicals in my direction?
They could be required to post a sign on the entrance that states whether it is a smoking, or non-smoking establishment. By the tobacco stench you would probably notice before opening the door more than halfway. Or the ashtrays on the tables might be a clue.
I quit smoking over a decade ago, but I feel there should be places for smokers to do their thing. I prefer to not be around it, but I'm not a militant non-smoker either. Taxes on tobacco does a lot of good. And smokers tend to be less costly on the medical system as well.
Problem with today's American politics right wing america has gone batshit crazy.
No. The problem is that the wing-nuts on BOTH the right and left have gone batshit crazy. They make 99% of the noise but account for 5% of the population, if that. The rest of us are somewhere in the center and can't get a damn word in in edgewise.
Give them a slap on the wrist. Do we really stand to gain more by dragging these guys over the coals.
I suppose it depends on how you feel about car emissions. If VW gets little more than a slap on the wrist, then why wouldn't every other automotive company do the exact same thing? AFAIK, this is just for their diesel engines, what Toyota decided to do this with their gasoline engines? That would be a hell of a lot of cars. I would guess that would start a domino effect, and all manufacturers would do the same.
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How charming that you think the US _doesnt_.
How charming that you didn't hear that loud WHOOSH.
I always noticed there are ten times more women in computers than men.
Well yeah. Women tend to be smaller than men, and computer cases have gotten much smaller over the years.
Yes, the good old USA that brought us phone wiretapping,
And the telephone in the first place (albeit debatable) .
Comstock laws,
Yes, it's a good thing the Catholic church didn't have such things in Europe prior to the existence of America.. The USA invented morality laws. And just look how liberal the middle east is about such things.
and the Espionage act,
Yup, no other country has had anything similar before or since, right?
immorality fears and the 'Production Code',
It's a good thing no other countries use a rating system on films and such now. I guess China and Russia owe the US a great debt for showing them the light when it comes to censorship. That's why they're such free, liberal places now. Just look at how well the LGBT movement is thriving outside of first world countries.
the yellow peril and internment camps,
That was one hell of an embarrassment, That must be where Europe came up with the idea for the Great Gypsy Roundup.
red scares, McCarthyism and global proxy wars, prohibition, the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover, the demonization of marijuana and psychedelics, the war on drugs, and on, and on...
Maoism, Nazism, Genocide in Darfur, KGB, blah, blah, blah.
and don't get me started on slavery and civil rights.
Wait, you're claiming the USA brought slavery to the world too?
From the Salem witch trials forward
First witch trial was in the 14th century in Ireland, by the way.
America has been famous for getting itself in a tizzy over imagined moral threats, then following through with the most draconian of knee-jerk responses.
Yes, that god that America is the only country on the entire planet that does this. Ethnic groups of humans outside of America have never blamed other for their ills.
Not to mention the hazards of having 20 lb of plastic and steel falling several feet out of the sky onto who knows what?Â
If it weighs 20 lbs., then it probably has autonomous features and won't simply fall out of the sky.
Prolly won't work for a lot of them anyway, if they lose signal they're programmed to head home.Â
Which means it will not fall out of the sky. Since this is law enforcement, the drone will lead them straight to the operator. I'm not sure what you think the problem is.
Of course the rich Republicans drive around in $80,000 luxury pickups to try and show that they're from a working class country background.
They are also for family values and oppose gay marriage. But are the ones caught in extramarital affairs. Both hetero and homosexual.
Of course Democrats are all for stopping global warming, but fly around on private jets and have five star hotel sized homes. . They are also supposed to be for the poor. Unless they get too close to them on a non-election year.
I'm so tired of the two party system in the US. Both sides are full of shit. It's to the point that I look at them like they're more of a sports team than having anything to do with governing the country. Nobody even listens to what they say anymore, or seem to remember all of the campaign promises that they completely renege on once in office when they come up for reelection. GO TEAM (BLUE/RED)!!!
Hell, it's getting hard to even find a decent independent to vote for anymore. Most of them are someone from one of the two parties that the party lost confidence in, in winning a reelection. So they run as an "independent". But vote as if they are in the same party that tried to throw them under the bus.
Aren't H1B visa holders required to leave the country for a couple of weeks every year? That was my understanding when I worked at a company, years ago, that had a few.
Maybe it was all BS, but the company I worked for was based in the EU. So they wanted the H1B folks to come work out of the EU offices during that time rather than go home for a few weeks.
Mir was launched 13 years after Skylab. Big surprise it was more advanced.
Why let facts get in the way of America bashing?
The Soviet Union launched four space stations, starting in 1971, before Skylab went up in 1973 (not including prototypes and tests). Of course Skylab spent more time in orbit than the first five Salyut stations, Komos 557, and DOS-2 stations combined. And it wasn't until Salyut 7 (launched in 1982) before they kept a station in orbit for a longer period. Stupid piece of junk Skylab
Skylab had a puny 360 sq meters of pressurized volume. Until Mir, the largest pressurized volume in a Soviet space station was 100 sq. meters. But Mir dwarfed Skylab with it's 350 sq. meters of pressurized volume. Oh, wait. Crappy American space station.
I read about the reason, on the net, why America gave up on Skylab-B. Apparently they couldn't get the time machine working to get Pentium processors for the computers before Mir was launched. True story.
Or could it be the general socioeconomic factors prevalent in these same areas?
I was wondering the same thing. There usually isn't a lot of fracking in urban affluent areas. It tends to be in rural areas that are much poorer than what you would find in even the below average income areas of a city. Plus access to medical care is considerably less in those areas too.
My family was from a rural area in Pennsylvania. My grandmother had seven children and was in her seventies the first time she went to a hospital or a doctor's office. The family doctor made house calls back then. But he died when my father was seventeen. So my father hadn't had seen a doctor after that until he was in his seventies either, and has never been checked into a hospital. He was the first person in my family to go to college, and even got his masters. So he was certainly educated.
I was pretty much raised believing that you only go to the hospital to visit someone, or to die. Granted, as I've gotten (ahem) older, my wife has convinced me otherwise. I went to school as well, and even work in the medical field. But it's difficult to overcome what you're raised to believe.
Maybe we should call them Fudgewagen . . . ?
I'm thinking they can use that as a new marketing slogan for their diesel line: "Fudge-vergnugen"
"How did The Self-Driving Car rescue the crew of the Kobayashi Maru?"
It accidentally drove through the wall of the simulation and ran into the server that controlled the Klingon ships?
I dont think it's overblown. But humans tend to live longer than most wild animals and thus makes us more fragile to the continuing radiated environment.
Is that why we develop super powers when we get bit by irradiated animals?
It's more like saying "Why are you buying 93 octane gas when you can use 87"? Except, saying it that way changes the whole meaning.
That's dependent on the context, isn't it? If you have a Toyota Camry, you'd be a fool to use anything higher than 87 octane. I have one car that requires a minimum of 89 octane and another that requires 93 octane. Both are stock engines. When I was younger I had a car with 12:1 compression pistons and a high lift cam. It needed 110 octane. In these cases, running 87 octane would be rather stupid as pre-detonation will lose a fair bit of horsepower and is really hard on your engine too.
I get quarterly water test results from my water company. There's typically some detectable amount of mercury, arsenic, and other crap I'd rather avoid drinking if I can. Yes, it's within what is considered safe levels. But how many "safe levels" have been set because they are simply too difficult or expensive to get any lower? Or don't appear to be a problem within a couple year period? Regardless, tap water just tastes really nasty to me.
They are not PC which is why they need to die.
Republicans are Mac?
Anyone who can't recognise the industry terms and marketing language in the parent post, and the purpose of carefully crafted structure of it... I have a slightly used bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Actually I'm in the medical industry. But was in the saltwater hobby for a very long time starting in the late 1970's. It's actually where my screen name is derived from. I kept reef tanks.
As far as "industry terms", I'm pretty sure I explained anything other than what ppm stood for, under the assumption that parts per million is a fairly standard measurement for anyone who took high-school chemistry. Everything else is very well known to anyone in the hobby.
I'm not sure what marketing language you think is in there, but, please, do tell what the purpose of my post was. Other than to relay information.
Everyone should note that for the most part bottled water is just "tap water" that has been filtered. At $1 plus a bottle (plus the almost always not recycled plastic bottle), why don't people just get a Britta filter for home or office? Filtered tap water is now more expensive than soda!
I'm happy to see you have a slightly better understanding than most of the people I hear complaining about this. I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard that brands like Dasani, Aquafinia, and Smartwater are "just tap water". That's akin to someone saying, "why are you putting gasoline in your car when you can buy a barrel of crude oil for so much less?".
Now that being said, a Brita filter is simply carbon filtration. The brands I mentioned, and many others, are filtered through multistage reverse osmosis units. Typically they start with a 10 micron fiber filter. Then a 5 micron carbon filter, which is probably about what a Britta filter is. The next stage is a 1 micron carbon filter, then through the RO membrane. And usually a final carbon filter. A really effective system with decent source water can get the total dissolved solids (TDS) down to 1 to 10 PPM. The feed water on my system at home is between 400 and 500 ppm, depending on the time of year. Usually the post RO water is in the 5 to 10 ppm range. I run that through a two stage dionization filter that takes it down to a TDS of 0 ppm. I used to keep saltwater invertebrates, so I needed a good filter to mix with salt. Since my tap water was so poor, I started drinking the filtered water and find most water with a TDS above 100 ppm to be pretty nasty tasting. Most of the filtered brands mix in some minerals and usually the TDS is in the 25 ppm range. I'll buy RO filtered water when I'm away from home, but use filtered water for the most part.
I'm not sure what the cost difference is for bottled water, but the fiber and three carbon filters on my system need to be changed every 6 to 12 months and the RO membrane every 4 to 5 years. The filters are $25 for all of them and a the RO membrane is $45. I used to recharge the DI resins, but they're $40 for five lbs. So I don't have to play with muriatic acid and lye any longer. There's also the cost of waste water. In the winter months, when the feed water is cold, the RO membrane rejects about 2 gallons of water for every gallon that passes through. When the feed water is warmer, it will reject more.
Now what is needed is to show how the government teamed up with their captured space aliens in order to change Earth's atmosphere for their alien overloads!
So you saw that documentary with Charlie Sheen too?
Your math is off by about an order of magnitude. 30000 days is about 1 lifetime (82.2 years); at two patents per day it would take half as long. Still a damn long time, though.
Yeah, how many judges are going to work for 82.2 years straight without taking a single weekend, holiday or vacation? If you fugue in a five day work week, three weeks of vacation and a dozen state/federal holidays, you're looking at 131.6 years. That's without sick days or personal time.
If you also figure in that no one is born a judge, and have to go through law school and probably some time as a lawyer, five lifetimes sounds about right to me.
Their "defense-grade cyber-security" promises to defend, detect, decide, defeat.
The cool thing is that this, being Raytheon, they have the hardware to back this up.
I can see it now:
Raytheon Cyber Security has located the source of the threat. Please choose how to defeat it:
But you have basically come to the end conclusion of a "club" which can already exist.
That depends on the location. In Maryland, you cannot. The only way it is legal to have the main purpose to be retail sale of tobacco. I actually bring that particular state up as I lived there when they banned smoking. The way the original law was written, it also defined a public place by the number of different people who accessed it during a set period of time. The number was very low and many people's homes would have counted as a public place.
According to Wikipedia Of the 28 states that have smoking bans on public places, only 7 (AZ, CT, IA, KS, MA, NY, OH) allow for private clubs that permit it.
As far as I could tell, the states that exempt bars, do so only if they do not admit anyone under the age of 21. So your question about children appears to already to have been addressed.
And do you block all children from entering, or atleast the teenagers coming to eat with friends?
Way to move the goal post. Regardless, I would think it would depend on the legal age for smoking, wouldn't it? Hell, bars already deal with this. If someone's under 21, they have to be accompanied by their guardian in most places. There are tobacco bars as well. Have smoking restaurants follow the same policy.
And how would I know when I enter a restaurant that half way through my meal the person in the table next to mine is not going to start spewing unknown chemicals in my direction?
They could be required to post a sign on the entrance that states whether it is a smoking, or non-smoking establishment. By the tobacco stench you would probably notice before opening the door more than halfway. Or the ashtrays on the tables might be a clue.
I quit smoking over a decade ago, but I feel there should be places for smokers to do their thing. I prefer to not be around it, but I'm not a militant non-smoker either. Taxes on tobacco does a lot of good. And smokers tend to be less costly on the medical system as well.
Problem with today's American politics right wing america has gone batshit crazy.
No. The problem is that the wing-nuts on BOTH the right and left have gone batshit crazy. They make 99% of the noise but account for 5% of the population, if that. The rest of us are somewhere in the center and can't get a damn word in in edgewise.
The US and China Agree Not To Conduct blatant Economic Espionage In Cyberspace...
And will be sure to use more plausible stories (or at least ones that are not under copyright) when they get caught.
Give them a slap on the wrist. Do we really stand to gain more by dragging these guys over the coals.
I suppose it depends on how you feel about car emissions. If VW gets little more than a slap on the wrist, then why wouldn't every other automotive company do the exact same thing? AFAIK, this is just for their diesel engines, what Toyota decided to do this with their gasoline engines? That would be a hell of a lot of cars. I would guess that would start a domino effect, and all manufacturers would do the same.
BRB, there's some lawyers at the door who say they're from Apple. Should I use a shotgun or a chainsaw?
Yes.