Personally, I think it was a mistake to translate the gospels from Aramaic, too.
The Gospels were written in GREEK. The Old Testament (Genesis through Malachi, for you JW's out there) was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
I mean, look at the cover of the thing -- it's a stunning piece of work.
Haven't you ever heard the old addage, Never judge a book by its cover? My Bible has a plain cover; no fancy decorations. It does not detract from its contents.
IMO, the King James versions still suffer from their poisioned past.
Surely, you aren't grouping the New King James version with the King James?!? Read the preface to the NKJV some time. They admit to using the same sources that the NIV, NASB, and RSV (among others) use-- One is Codex Vaticanus and the other is Codex Sinaiticus (or something like that). Many scholars consider those to be the best sources, but they have so many points of contention between them that it is almost laughable! The sources of the King James (Masoretic Hebrew texts for the OT, Textus Receptus for the NT) are numerous enough to remove any doubt to their accuracy.
The NIV makes a good effort, but I disagree with some of the interpretations they make (although I do agree with the need to draw those interpretations).
You an expert in Biblical Greek and Hebrew? I'm not, so that is why I had to do my homework, to determine which was most accurate of the Bible versions available to me.
The key to really understanding the Bible is to understand its sources and inspiration, examining the roots of the mythology being presented and the way in which things would have been intended.
Understand the sources? maybe. Understand the inspiration? Certainly. In the Gospels, one reads things that would be best understood with an understanding of what a shepherd does and what sheep are really like.
As for the rest of your comment, I'll just say that I don't agree with that. I don't see anything in the Bible as mythology.
I bought MY IIgs with 1.25MB RAM... about four or five years ago, i found a place that sold memory cards for the GS-- that took SIMMs! My IIgs (ROM01, stock CPU) now has 8MB RAM!
I, for one, would LOVE to see a unix variant ported to the GS... I don't have the drive space to put GNO/ME on. <sigh>
I heard he was kicked out of Harvard for stealing $30k of computer time from a NSA project he was working on. BTW, is this true or just an urban myth?
I used to work with the guy who was responsible for Billy-Boy leaving Harvard. He worked in the computer lab and noticed that different people were using the same login- the one assigned to BG... Investigations found that a couple of the rules governing computer use were broken. BG was given an ultimatum: leave or be kicked out. He left.
IIRC, the project they were working on was actually what became MS-BASIC...
If you don't count the TI 99/4a, the Apple IIgs was the first computer i ever bought. I paid $1500 for it NEW, about a year or so before Apple pulled the rug out from underneath it.
I still have my IIgs. About five years ago, I installed a hard drive on it and upped its RAM to 8MB. It's still got the factory CPU... It is a ROM01 model.:)
I'll keep my IIgs, thanks. As long as it runs, I'll enjoy puttering around on it. One day, i'll even get it connected directly to my Ethernet LAN. (in the mean time, i'll have it connected to my Mac LC, which is then connected to my LAN...)
Re:SCO still packs a punch?
on
SCO SCO SCO!
·
· Score: 1
Is it stretching the imagination too much to suppose that SCO are simply pissing people off in order to get themselves bought out in a settlement?
I saw this, too. The first thing I thought was "I hope IBM isn't stupid enough to fall for that line... it'll only make them look guilty!"
SCO is being stupid. The only bright mark on this whole thing that I can see is the stock going up.... But then, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the bulk of the people buying SCO stock are non-tech people that don't follow the industry very well. They probably think that anyone crazy enough to go up against Big Blue has to have something up their sleeve....
This could even translate into private sector sales so the masses will know to put "8CNB5 Q8Z4R" on an envelope instead of Address/Street/City. We should know better than to let MS have a hand in a "standard". We will all pay throught the nose for this someday.
Of COURSE! Instead of trying to memorize everything, we'll want to get little pre-printed labels with our address on it, and if we know where the mail is going, the destination too. Who do you think is going to print them? The companies that make that stuff available will have to license the rights from Microsoft, and WHAM! the costs are passed to Yours Truly...
Scary thought, isn't it? Something like that will only hasten the death of snail mail, I fear.
Nice thought... but its like the metric system. Who will want to change what they have known for many a lifetime.
According to the US Postal Service, the US's ZIP code wasn't used until July 1, 1963. That's about four years before MY birth... Although it was not required at first, it meant that people that were able to write letters before the middle of 1963 were forced to learn something new to send mail!
To furthur make my point, the ZIP+4 system was introduced in 1984. The +4 stuff is still not required, but if you are a business, you know about the incentives in using the extra numbers.
I know my 60 year old dad who does carpentry will never learn the metric system, even though it would be easier, why would he, or the millions like him want to learn a new addressing scheme?
Because if the Postal Service required it, it would have to be used. Of course, with something like the proposal that spawned this whole conversation, I doubt it would take. The system might do the job of describing where things are going, but (1) it's not really legible, (2) it's tough to remember, (3) Americans will take to having letters in their Postal Code when Canada agrees to sell their land to them. One can work around #1 and #2, but I don't see #3 happening any time soon... I can't imagine "the State of Alberta"...
What do you let them read then, besides the Left Behind series? Anything by Mark Twain is right out, as is Alice in Wonderland. E. Rice Burroughs' works all seems too anarchic for you to let your children read. I'm not finding much classic literature that fits what you've expressed here.
Well, considering my oldest son is five years old (the youngest is two), there isn't a whole lot he's interested in. They like 'The Story of PING', so there's hope for them in the IT industry, if it opens up by the time they're old enough to work. They like the 20-or-so Dr. Suess books we got from a book club, Arthur (by Marc Brown), books from Disney, and several other sorts of things. Looking at the book shelf, there are a surprising few books that are "Christian-oritented", so there goes your theory.
When they are old enough to express interest in books, there's not much that I would encourage them to avoid. Harry Potter is one series, though, that would not be encouraged until the kids are at least into high school. Maybe by then, they will have learned that sometimes nasty things result from certain actions.
Let's see if I can put the lessons learned from Harry Potter into a practical form for you: From what one learns from Harry and his mates, if you are speeding down the highway and pass a police cruiser, the officer will not do more than maybe issue a warning. The reality is that unless you are in the Boston area (like Rt 128), you will likely be issued a speeding ticket that will cost you a pretty penny.
Try reading the Bible some time. If you read the whole thing, from Genesis right through (and TAKE NOTES!), you will see that in the first four books of the New Testment (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), Jesus is presented as the FULFILLMENT of the Law. Jesus himself said so much in Matthew 5:17:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
I am a Christian, and I will not apologize to anyone for that fact. I am also a parent of three boys. I refuse to allow my kids to read the Harry Potter books for reasons that include, but are not restricted to, what is taught in the Bible.
I did not bring the Bible into my argument-- you did.
Restriction of the Harry Potter series actually makes sense. Think about it: the "hero" and his pals basically harbor a complete disregard for authority, and when they are caught, the worst that happens is they get warned not to do it again (which means that they WILL).
Anyone that is a parent knows what happens to kids that act like this: they become spoiled brats who don't know that certain actions have certain consequences...
If a kid that already knows about consequences wants to read the series, that's up the kid's parent(s). If the kid DOESN'T know about them, then I'm not so sure it's a good idea, since it sets a bad example.
There are desks that don't have computers on them?
You mean like in some incredibly poor 3rd world country right?
Not to worry... I have six at home. That should help. Combine that with all the other self-respecting Geeks, and we should have the third-world countries covered.;)
They are under legal obligation to follow certain rules (one of them being to hire a US worker instead of an H1-B worker if a US worker is available for the job)
...which results in completely unrealistic experience requirements (like the minimum four years experience managing Windows XP systems spot I saw recently!).... The HR dweeb then argues they can't find anyone to fit the bill, gets clearance to hire H1-B drones, and takes the first reasonable import s/he can find. The American Geek that got laid off suffers 'cause he can't get a job, while Corporate America gets to bring more people in from off-shore just to save a buck.
The bastards.
Granted, this isn't the rule, but it happens often enough to be a prime candidate for one.
The new MS Office Keyboard from Micrsoft not only includes multimedia and office launching buttons above the function keys but also buttons to the left of the standard buttons dedicated to cut, copy, past, backwards, and forwards.
Now THAT'S what i call innovative -- NOT!
I'm sitting here, looking at my SPARC20's keyboard, and most of those are there: Stop, Props, Front, Open, Find, Again, Undo, Copy, Paste and Cut... I've also had keyboards for my PC (before 1995) that had a mouse built-in, so there goes the innovation on that regard, too.
Come on, Microsoft... Crawl into a hole somewhere and DIE already.
Well, let's see... Right now, I generally don't download music. When I do, it is to "preview" something, and that leads to either my purchase of an album or deletion of the song.
If the RIAA has the 'nads to actually implement this fee (which, if you think about it amounts to a tax, and last time I checked, only the government was authorized to do so), I would have no problem in keeping an archive of music.
The way things are NOW, it's ethically sound to buy the album(s) I listen to. If the RIAA charges people (like me) for music without Just Cause, then I will simply stop buying CDs.
just 'cause the 1337 d00dz like to throw their grammer out the window, it doesn't mean -I- have to. the worst i do (that i notice) is fail to capitalize anything except (most) proper names....
of course, i got into that habit back when BBSs were the "in thing"... <shrug>
I'm with you...all porn moved to.porn, then we can doa search on google and filter out all the rubbish.
I agree with you here.
P.S. I quite enjoy porn, but it's really getting in the way of getting back meanful results from the net.
That is entirely up to you. -I- don't care for porn. The pop-up ads are pathetic, and like you stated, it gets in the way of finding useful information.
Unfortunately, the porn industry has more money than I do. I cannot buy a politician like they can. (Not that I WOULD, mind you...) It's sad, really.
(if were dumb enough to be led by tv adds (ie not watch the debates), and to never consider a 3rd party we are getting what we deserve, it is not the fault of our government.
I have this theory about voting booths... My theory is that there's something akin to a magic spell over them that causes everyone that steps into one to temporarily lose every IQ point they have in their skull. It's because of this sort of thing that Clinton got elected a second time and that Bush is where he is today. It's why Democrats tend to take Massachusetts by storm, unless the Republican makes himself look so much like a Democrat it makes one want to cry.
I've voted in every election since I was 18, save one, and at that time I was overseas in the Navy. My theory applies to me as much as anyone... That's why I have my decisions written down before I set foot in the booth. It saves embarrassment later. (I voted for WHO?!?)
If "con" is the opposite of "pro", what is the opposite of Congress?
I know that this is already swamped in the Sea that is over 950 posts on this issue, but....
What does that lame excuse for a judge THINK is going to happen NOW?
Anyone with half a brain (read: anyone that is not a Microsoft Lemming) knows that M$ will flaunt this all over the place, any time they get a chance. They will argue that the US Courts do not consider them a monopoly (which they are; a skunk still stinks, no matter what its name is!), and the End User will suffer.
Now that I think of it, the whole Microsoft thing reminds me a lot of the Tobacco industry: it's the End User that will suffer in the end. For some, it's a fatal result, for others, they'll be lucky if they only get minor injuries... I'll leave it as an excercise to the reader to decide how the injuries end up....
"Innovation".... ...at least that seems to be their trend-- copying what someone else has been doing, then claiming that their version is "innovative".
<shrug>Whatever, Microsoft. Whatever.
Why Personal Air Travel will never happen
on
The Coming Air Age
·
· Score: 1
Those of you that live in or near metro areas like Boston see why personal air travel will never be commonplace: there are just too many complete and utter idiots.
Think about it. I live just south of Boston, but I grew up in Maine. I learned how to drive in snow, and it snows here, but to see all these people doing 80mph in a foot of snow makes me want to laugh (and cry)... These same dolts wonder why they end up in the snow bank in multiple-car pileups. <sigh>
I use PuTTY at home. when i had reason to bring it along to another site, i copied the necessary files onto a floppy and used that. it worked like a CHAMP!:)
Where I live, I can't get DSL-the phone lines are dirty; on a 56k dialup, the best connection I can get is 31.2k... If I want high-speed access, I'd have to go with cable.
HOWEVER.
Where I live, AT&T runs the show. They want something like $50/mo for service. It would be $40/mo if I had cable, but I don't- I can't justify spending $50 for a bunch of channels when I only watch FOUR, and most of those I can get with an antenna!
Even with their specials that another poster mentioned, read the fine print: A recent offer from AT&T Broadband in my area said that I would be charged the regular fee, and when I've been with them for three months, I would be reimbursed the difference. What a DEAL! Not.
Slashdot Mirror
Personally, I think it was a mistake to translate the gospels from Aramaic, too.
The Gospels were written in GREEK. The Old Testament (Genesis through Malachi, for you JW's out there) was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
I mean, look at the cover of the thing -- it's a stunning piece of work.
Haven't you ever heard the old addage, Never judge a book by its cover? My Bible has a plain cover; no fancy decorations. It does not detract from its contents.
IMO, the King James versions still suffer from their poisioned past.
Surely, you aren't grouping the New King James version with the King James?!? Read the preface to the NKJV some time. They admit to using the same sources that the NIV, NASB, and RSV (among others) use-- One is Codex Vaticanus and the other is Codex Sinaiticus (or something like that). Many scholars consider those to be the best sources, but they have so many points of contention between them that it is almost laughable! The sources of the King James (Masoretic Hebrew texts for the OT, Textus Receptus for the NT) are numerous enough to remove any doubt to their accuracy.
The NIV makes a good effort, but I disagree with some of the interpretations they make (although I do agree with the need to draw those interpretations).
You an expert in Biblical Greek and Hebrew? I'm not, so that is why I had to do my homework, to determine which was most accurate of the Bible versions available to me.
The key to really understanding the Bible is to understand its sources and inspiration, examining the roots of the mythology being presented and the way in which things would have been intended.
As for the rest of your comment, I'll just say that I don't agree with that. I don't see anything in the Bible as mythology.Understand the sources? maybe. Understand the inspiration? Certainly. In the Gospels, one reads things that would be best understood with an understanding of what a shepherd does and what sheep are really like.
I bought MY IIgs with 1.25MB RAM... about four or five years ago, i found a place that sold memory cards for the GS-- that took SIMMs! My IIgs (ROM01, stock CPU) now has 8MB RAM!
I, for one, would LOVE to see a unix variant ported to the GS... I don't have the drive space to put GNO/ME on. <sigh>
B1 and B2. That should sink your Bananas in Pyjamas.
I don't know which is more disturbing-- The fact that you posted that, or the fact that I know what you're talking about!
I heard he was kicked out of Harvard for stealing $30k of computer time from a NSA project he was working on. BTW, is this true or just an urban myth?
I used to work with the guy who was responsible for Billy-Boy leaving Harvard. He worked in the computer lab and noticed that different people were using the same login- the one assigned to BG... Investigations found that a couple of the rules governing computer use were broken. BG was given an ultimatum: leave or be kicked out. He left.
IIRC, the project they were working on was actually what became MS-BASIC...
If you don't count the TI 99/4a, the Apple IIgs was the first computer i ever bought. I paid $1500 for it NEW, about a year or so before Apple pulled the rug out from underneath it.
:)
I still have my IIgs. About five years ago, I installed a hard drive on it and upped its RAM to 8MB. It's still got the factory CPU... It is a ROM01 model.
I'll keep my IIgs, thanks. As long as it runs, I'll enjoy puttering around on it. One day, i'll even get it connected directly to my Ethernet LAN. (in the mean time, i'll have it connected to my Mac LC, which is then connected to my LAN...)
Is it stretching the imagination too much to suppose that SCO are simply pissing people off in order to get themselves bought out in a settlement?
I saw this, too. The first thing I thought was "I hope IBM isn't stupid enough to fall for that line... it'll only make them look guilty!"
SCO is being stupid. The only bright mark on this whole thing that I can see is the stock going up.... But then, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the bulk of the people buying SCO stock are non-tech people that don't follow the industry very well. They probably think that anyone crazy enough to go up against Big Blue has to have something up their sleeve....
This could even translate into private sector sales so the masses will know to put "8CNB5 Q8Z4R" on an envelope instead of Address/Street/City. We should know better than to let MS have a hand in a "standard". We will all pay throught the nose for this someday.
Of COURSE! Instead of trying to memorize everything, we'll want to get little pre-printed labels with our address on it, and if we know where the mail is going, the destination too. Who do you think is going to print them? The companies that make that stuff available will have to license the rights from Microsoft, and WHAM! the costs are passed to Yours Truly...
Scary thought, isn't it? Something like that will only hasten the death of snail mail, I fear.
Nice thought... but its like the metric system. Who will want to change what they have known for many a lifetime.
According to the US Postal Service, the US's ZIP code wasn't used until July 1, 1963. That's about four years before MY birth... Although it was not required at first, it meant that people that were able to write letters before the middle of 1963 were forced to learn something new to send mail!
To furthur make my point, the ZIP+4 system was introduced in 1984. The +4 stuff is still not required, but if you are a business, you know about the incentives in using the extra numbers.
I know my 60 year old dad who does carpentry will never learn the metric system, even though it would be easier, why would he, or the millions like him want to learn a new addressing scheme?
Because if the Postal Service required it, it would have to be used. Of course, with something like the proposal that spawned this whole conversation, I doubt it would take. The system might do the job of describing where things are going, but (1) it's not really legible, (2) it's tough to remember, (3) Americans will take to having letters in their Postal Code when Canada agrees to sell their land to them. One can work around #1 and #2, but I don't see #3 happening any time soon... I can't imagine "the State of Alberta"...
...would it mean that the folks from Edsel could come back and sue Ford, GM, etc for running them out of business?
I would think that if a company can't stand on their own merits, then they should do what thousands, nay- millions, of companies have done: go away.
Seeing problems down the road and suing those that are starting to become more successful than oneself seems to me to be bordering on the moronic.
What do you let them read then, besides the Left Behind series? Anything by Mark Twain is right out, as is Alice in Wonderland. E. Rice Burroughs' works all seems too anarchic for you to let your children read. I'm not finding much classic literature that fits what you've expressed here.
Well, considering my oldest son is five years old (the youngest is two), there isn't a whole lot he's interested in. They like 'The Story of PING', so there's hope for them in the IT industry, if it opens up by the time they're old enough to work. They like the 20-or-so Dr. Suess books we got from a book club, Arthur (by Marc Brown), books from Disney, and several other sorts of things. Looking at the book shelf, there are a surprising few books that are "Christian-oritented", so there goes your theory.
When they are old enough to express interest in books, there's not much that I would encourage them to avoid. Harry Potter is one series, though, that would not be encouraged until the kids are at least into high school. Maybe by then, they will have learned that sometimes nasty things result from certain actions.
Let's see if I can put the lessons learned from Harry Potter into a practical form for you: From what one learns from Harry and his mates, if you are speeding down the highway and pass a police cruiser, the officer will not do more than maybe issue a warning. The reality is that unless you are in the Boston area (like Rt 128), you will likely be issued a speeding ticket that will cost you a pretty penny.
Try reading the Bible some time. If you read the whole thing, from Genesis right through (and TAKE NOTES!), you will see that in the first four books of the New Testment (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), Jesus is presented as the FULFILLMENT of the Law. Jesus himself said so much in Matthew 5:17:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not
come to destroy, but to fulfil.
I am a Christian, and I will not apologize to anyone for that fact. I am also a parent of three boys. I refuse to allow my kids to read the Harry Potter books for reasons that include, but are not restricted to, what is taught in the Bible.
I did not bring the Bible into my argument-- you did.
Restriction of the Harry Potter series actually makes sense. Think about it: the "hero" and his pals basically harbor a complete disregard for authority, and when they are caught, the worst that happens is they get warned not to do it again (which means that they WILL).
Anyone that is a parent knows what happens to kids that act like this: they become spoiled brats who don't know that certain actions have certain consequences...
If a kid that already knows about consequences wants to read the series, that's up the kid's parent(s). If the kid DOESN'T know about them, then I'm not so sure it's a good idea, since it sets a bad example.
There are desks that don't have computers on them?
;)
You mean like in some incredibly poor 3rd world country right?
Not to worry... I have six at home. That should help. Combine that with all the other self-respecting Geeks, and we should have the third-world countries covered.
They are under legal obligation to follow certain rules (one of them being to hire a US worker instead of an H1-B worker if a US worker is available for the job)
...which results in completely unrealistic experience requirements (like the minimum four years experience managing Windows XP systems spot I saw recently!).... The HR dweeb then argues they can't find anyone to fit the bill, gets clearance to hire H1-B drones, and takes the first reasonable import s/he can find. The American Geek that got laid off suffers 'cause he can't get a job, while Corporate America gets to bring more people in from off-shore just to save a buck.
The bastards.
Granted, this isn't the rule, but it happens often enough to be a prime candidate for one.
The new MS Office Keyboard from Micrsoft not only includes multimedia and office launching buttons above the function keys but also buttons to the left of the standard buttons dedicated to cut, copy, past, backwards, and forwards.
Now THAT'S what i call innovative -- NOT!
I'm sitting here, looking at my SPARC20's keyboard, and most of those are there: Stop, Props, Front, Open, Find, Again, Undo, Copy, Paste and Cut... I've also had keyboards for my PC (before 1995) that had a mouse built-in, so there goes the innovation on that regard, too.
Come on, Microsoft... Crawl into a hole somewhere and DIE already.
Well, let's see... Right now, I generally don't download music. When I do, it is to "preview" something, and that leads to either my purchase of an album or deletion of the song.
If the RIAA has the 'nads to actually implement this fee (which, if you think about it amounts to a tax, and last time I checked, only the government was authorized to do so), I would have no problem in keeping an archive of music.
The way things are NOW, it's ethically sound to buy the album(s) I listen to. If the RIAA charges people (like me) for music without Just Cause, then I will simply stop buying CDs.
just 'cause the 1337 d00dz like to throw their grammer out the window, it doesn't mean -I- have to. the worst i do (that i notice) is fail to capitalize anything except (most) proper names....
of course, i got into that habit back when BBSs were the "in thing"... <shrug>
i've been told by several people that M$ doesn't make their own hardware, that they license it...
the basic rule SEEMS TO BE that if it has M$'s name on it and it works well (be it software or hardware), then it's likely made by someone else.
i hope for their sake that i'm wrong.
I'm with you...all porn moved to .porn, then we can doa search on google and filter out all the rubbish.
I agree with you here.
P.S. I quite enjoy porn, but it's really getting in the way of getting back meanful results from the net.
That is entirely up to you. -I- don't care for porn. The pop-up ads are pathetic, and like you stated, it gets in the way of finding useful information.
Unfortunately, the porn industry has more money than I do. I cannot buy a politician like they can. (Not that I WOULD, mind you...) It's sad, really.
I have this theory about voting booths... My theory is that there's something akin to a magic spell over them that causes everyone that steps into one to temporarily lose every IQ point they have in their skull. It's because of this sort of thing that Clinton got elected a second time and that Bush is where he is today. It's why Democrats tend to take Massachusetts by storm, unless the Republican makes himself look so much like a Democrat it makes one want to cry.
I've voted in every election since I was 18, save one, and at that time I was overseas in the Navy. My theory applies to me as much as anyone... That's why I have my decisions written down before I set foot in the booth. It saves embarrassment later. (I voted for WHO?!?)
If "con" is the opposite of "pro", what is the opposite of Congress?
Pathetic. Just plain pathetic.
I know that this is already swamped in the Sea that is over 950 posts on this issue, but....
What does that lame excuse for a judge THINK is going to happen NOW?
Anyone with half a brain (read: anyone that is not a Microsoft Lemming) knows that M$ will flaunt this all over the place, any time they get a chance. They will argue that the US Courts do not consider them a monopoly (which they are; a skunk still stinks, no matter what its name is!), and the End User will suffer.
Now that I think of it, the whole Microsoft thing reminds me a lot of the Tobacco industry: it's the End User that will suffer in the end. For some, it's a fatal result, for others, they'll be lucky if they only get minor injuries... I'll leave it as an excercise to the reader to decide how the injuries end up....
"Innovation"....
...at least that seems to be their trend-- copying what someone else has been doing, then claiming that their version is "innovative".
<shrug>Whatever, Microsoft. Whatever.
Those of you that live in or near metro areas like Boston see why personal air travel will never be commonplace: there are just too many complete and utter idiots.
Think about it. I live just south of Boston, but I grew up in Maine. I learned how to drive in snow, and it snows here, but to see all these people doing 80mph in a foot of snow makes me want to laugh (and cry)... These same dolts wonder why they end up in the snow bank in multiple-car pileups. <sigh>
Please see my comments about driving in snow on H2G2.
I use PuTTY at home. when i had reason to bring it along to another site, i copied the necessary files onto a floppy and used that. it worked like a CHAMP! :)
I won't go anywhere without it now.
Basically, it's too bloody expensive.
Where I live, I can't get DSL-the phone lines are dirty; on a 56k dialup, the best connection I can get is 31.2k... If I want high-speed access, I'd have to go with cable.
HOWEVER.
Where I live, AT&T runs the show. They want something like $50/mo for service. It would be $40/mo if I had cable, but I don't- I can't justify spending $50 for a bunch of channels when I only watch FOUR, and most of those I can get with an antenna!
Even with their specials that another poster mentioned, read the fine print: A recent offer from AT&T Broadband in my area said that I would be charged the regular fee, and when I've been with them for three months, I would be reimbursed the difference. What a DEAL! Not.