The problem arises when people such as yourself, who prefer things one way, think that those same things are good, or even acceptable, for those of us who prefer things another way.
That's the point. Your very statement applies both ways. Microsoft, the creators of software that most average users like, think the things they put into their software is good, or even acceptable to those of us who prefer things another way.
So most open source stuff is produced by those of us who prefers things the other way. If you like the Microsoft Windows way, you're very welcome to use that instead.
Complicated things, like the ports tree, and for that matter all UNIX and UNIXesque operating systems other than Mac OS X, do not scare us. They piss us off.
Well I guess that's the problem isn't it. As a geek, the Microsoftesque approach of putting on a happy friendly colorful GUI to automatically do all the "complicated stuff" for us pisses me off. I want to choose my favorite media player, my favorite web browser, my favorite desktop interface from a million different choices. I want to be able tweak and twiddle and recompile source code.
And if I were to write open source software (on my own time and money, and giving it away for free), I'm going to make it the way I would like it to be : geeky. It's not that I don't realize what an "average user" wants, I just don't try very hard to meet those requirements because I'm usually writing the program for myself, and giving it away so that others like myself can enjoy it too. Yes, when I write a program it's always going to be about me. Selfish perhaps, but you can't really blame me for it.
This isn't always the case, but there is a lot of software developed because somebody needed to scratch and itch. And "average users" don't itch in quite the same way as the people producing software (for free) that "average users" hate so much.
If you want to buy a Ford F150 and chop it down into the shape of a giant shoe, it's yours to do with as you please.
Ah, a vague Hitchhiker's guide reference:) Am I right?
Whenever a new kernel comes along and breaks a binary compatibility with the previous versions, a new whole number comes out.
I don't see how a new kernel "breaks binary compatibility". If glibc were upgraded yes, it might affect all the shared libs dynamically linked to it, but not the kernel.
Years on from the introduction of P3/P4/MMX etc. and there is still virtually no support for these technologies in Visual C++. Microsoft, like most (all ?) compiler vendors stick to almost-the-lowest-common-denominator when it comes to instructions sets, which means in this case means bland-ish Intel.
AFAIK, if you wanted to use MMX instructions, you had to hand-code the operation yourself in asm. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
I'm getting flashbacks from that horrific Enterprise episode where the stumble upon a rogue planet with life on it. Apparently they get heat from geothermal activity, though I don't know how the plants grow without any light.
They have their own Solaris flavour of Unix that they worked so hard on. I don't think anyone's taking this SCO lawsuit that seriously. So I guess perhaps they are taking the chance to downplay Linux and beef up the image of their proprietry Unix.
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But wait till this fly returns from the dead with the help of his cybernetic implants to seek revenge!
Revenge Of The Cyborg Fly!
Don't say I didn't warn you.
I've tried out LUFS which is a kernel module that allows you to mount just about anything as a native filesystem (ssh, ftp etc.). Doesn't require X or Konqueror or anything else, it just works.
I'm a Slackware and GNOME user, and I'm sometimes amused by remarks such as "all the popular distros except Redhat use KDE as their default desktop". In Slackware, there is no "default desktop". You get to choose between KDE, GNOME or the lighterweights at install time, and switching between all of them is as easy as xwmconfig.
At Distrowatch, Slackware's default desktop is given as "KDE", and I wonder why. Maybe it's becaused KDE is listed on top of GNOME in the selection menu?;)
As for other popular distros, it's also quite easy to choose your desktop, so I don't really get why the notion of a "default" desktop is even an issue.
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The problem arises when people such as yourself, who prefer things one way, think that those same things are good, or even acceptable, for those of us who prefer things another way.
That's the point. Your very statement applies both ways. Microsoft, the creators of software that most average users like, think the things they put into their software is good, or even acceptable to those of us who prefer things another way.
So most open source stuff is produced by those of us who prefers things the other way. If you like the Microsoft Windows way, you're very welcome to use that instead.
Complicated things, like the ports tree, and for that matter all UNIX and UNIXesque operating systems other than Mac OS X, do not scare us. They piss us off.
Well I guess that's the problem isn't it. As a geek, the Microsoftesque approach of putting on a happy friendly colorful GUI to automatically do all the "complicated stuff" for us pisses me off. I want to choose my favorite media player, my favorite web browser, my favorite desktop interface from a million different choices. I want to be able tweak and twiddle and recompile source code.
And if I were to write open source software (on my own time and money, and giving it away for free), I'm going to make it the way I would like it to be : geeky. It's not that I don't realize what an "average user" wants, I just don't try very hard to meet those requirements because I'm usually writing the program for myself, and giving it away so that others like myself can enjoy it too. Yes, when I write a program it's always going to be about me. Selfish perhaps, but you can't really blame me for it.
This isn't always the case, but there is a lot of software developed because somebody needed to scratch and itch. And "average users" don't itch in quite the same way as the people producing software (for free) that "average users" hate so much.
If you want to buy a Ford F150 and chop it down into the shape of a giant shoe, it's yours to do with as you please. Ah, a vague Hitchhiker's guide reference :) Am I right?
...since my GNOME fish died last night.
Whenever a new kernel comes along and breaks a binary compatibility with the previous versions, a new whole number comes out.
I don't see how a new kernel "breaks binary compatibility". If glibc were upgraded yes, it might affect all the shared libs dynamically linked to it, but not the kernel.
The poster has missed the point and has confused two seperate issues into one. (DMR and machine security)
:)
The parent poster however has confused DMR with DRM. I don't think DMR would be amused
Years on from the introduction of P3/P4/MMX etc. and there is still virtually no support for these technologies in Visual C++. Microsoft, like most (all ?) compiler vendors stick to almost-the-lowest-common-denominator when it comes to instructions sets, which means in this case means bland-ish Intel.
AFAIK, if you wanted to use MMX instructions, you had to hand-code the operation yourself in asm. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
Chris Rijk [Ace's Hardware]: And that's entirely hardware based -- does not need any special compilation or software support?
Dr. Marc Tremblay: That's correct.
What about Sun's supposed commitment to GNOME? Have they forgotten about that already?
Welcome to Microsofties Anonymous, where we'll cure you of your proprietry blues with our O-STEP program! Sign up now!
Personally, I think that if we have a 'tron' linux that somewhere they better make something named 'MCP'
Microsoft Control Program?
Doesn't Spider-Man wear a MASK? A stunt double doesn't even need to look like him! What's the problem here?
oh, Slackware 9 (which is already at rc2) will have all these features
:) Very soon now guys...
Don't you mean RC3?
...it's full of stars!
I'm getting flashbacks from that horrific Enterprise episode where the stumble upon a rogue planet with life on it. Apparently they get heat from geothermal activity, though I don't know how the plants grow without any light.
They have their own Solaris flavour of Unix that they worked so hard on. I don't think anyone's taking this SCO lawsuit that seriously. So I guess perhaps they are taking the chance to downplay Linux and beef up the image of their proprietry Unix.
it's beautiful... brings tears to my eyes... *sniff*
Latest GCC, latest stable kernel, latest GNOME, latest KDE, latest Xfree86, and yet solid as a rock :)
But wait till this fly returns from the dead with the help of his cybernetic implants to seek revenge! Revenge Of The Cyborg Fly! Don't say I didn't warn you.
I've tried out LUFS which is a kernel module that allows you to mount just about anything as a native filesystem (ssh, ftp etc.). Doesn't require X or Konqueror or anything else, it just works.
Did anyone else read "European Life in Doubt"?
Yup, I read it as that too. And I was thinking : Dang! Just when I was about to move to Europe!
Well put :)
;)
I'm a Slackware and GNOME user, and I'm sometimes amused by remarks such as "all the popular distros except Redhat use KDE as their default desktop". In Slackware, there is no "default desktop". You get to choose between KDE, GNOME or the lighterweights at install time, and switching between all of them is as easy as xwmconfig.
At Distrowatch, Slackware's default desktop is given as "KDE", and I wonder why. Maybe it's becaused KDE is listed on top of GNOME in the selection menu?
As for other popular distros, it's also quite easy to choose your desktop, so I don't really get why the notion of a "default" desktop is even an issue.
That's a joke, but if you want a colorful graphical version, try out Falcon's Eye.
OpenOffice? Bah! Back in the day when I used to walk uphill to school in snowstorms, we used LaTeX and were happy about it!
First the little transmitter, now a little double helix. Two new icons in one day. Wow. Will we get LOTR next?