I've noticed that every pizza parlor I go to never uses a conventional oven. They use a conveyor belt that runs at just the right speed. Really, they would just need to get robots to stretch the dough and put on the toppings -- the cooking is already down pat.
Professional chefs cook hamburger patties in an oven, not on a grill. As you said, a patty toaster oven makes a lot more sense, and would make it easier to produce items to order, eliminating the problem of having to store burgers under a hot lamp.
Making a robot that flips patties is either a publicity stunt or a stop-gap measure, so no surprise it hasn't immediately lived up to expectations.
It depends on how seriously the company takes consistency and sanitation when they order the robots they want. Most food assembly lines use cameras to check items for faults, and they can do so much more reliably than people, let alone dozens of times faster. Yes, employees still tear down and clean the machines, but if a weird spot is detected on a pizza crust or that potato chip is burnt or too small, a quick blast of air will shoo it off the belt.
Eventually, I expect fast food robots to do the same. People don't expect fast food to be high in quality, but consistency is paramount. Cameras and other sensors will eventually be able to detect crust, mold, and flattened buns -- let alone rats.
In an environment like that, there's no reason to promote a new version, so why spend money on a marketing campaign?
Likely the same reason Coca Cola does. Advertising products that don't need to be advertised may be a war of diminishing returns, but every last bit still counts.
The problem with forking should be obvious: community fragmentation and politics that turns everything into a clusterfuck. Continuous forking is an indication of a sick community. If you switch to the fork, the likely outcome is that the developers will lose interest/give up at some point and you'll be left having to switch platforms over and over again.
People call every distro "Linux", but we all know that Linux-based OSes have a major branding issue, and you can never be certain what will work with what. Personally, I'm sick of asking for help with an application, only to find out the step-by-step directions apply to some distro I don't use, and I have to spend days figuring it out myself. Hence, I've been trying to switch to "Linux" for 15 years, but always go back to Windows.
We don't need to worry about Microsoft destroying Linux. Microsoft is more worried about Google; the big Linux distros are doing a fine job destroying each other.
However, as it turns out, large parts of many human jobs do not actually need intelligence and that is quite enough.
This is the important thing many people don't consider when arguing about the benefits of automation. Machines only need to be good enough at a certain price point to get all the jobs. Nobody said they have to be as good as people -- just cheap enough to be more profitable. As such, not all the tough AI problems have to be solved, just "enough" of them. That will certainly be doable in less than 50 years or whatever.
It might be just because I'm a very kinaesthetic person, but this is something I find in general computer tech has failed to grasp: How important it is to hold something, to touch something, to feel something touching you.
Every time I read an article about Tesla, I wince. Only Silicon Valley could design a car that replaces every gauge and button with a single tablet display, and convince us it's the greatest advancement ever. Say what you want about writing down on a piece of paper, but operating a 2-ton machine at high velocities (or even enabling cruise control) isn't something that should be done with a glass display with no physical feedback.
Don't even get me started about the forklifts I used to operate at my old job. The newer computerized ones with a single joystick were impossible to drive compared to the old hydraulic models with real levers and buttons.
You've got it all wrong, dude. Mozilla is very much aware that developers need great features, so they're just forcing people to use the ultra-powerful scripting console in Web Developer mode. It's good for you! Nobody needs those fancy-pants graphical interfaces!
Heaven forbid they allow the ability to add your own buttons to the toolbar and run scripts with a click. Get to the console, you slacker.
In other news, Linux continues to be ignored by the unwashed masses for the same reasons.
This explains a lot. A couple weeks ago I was complaining about having to build a Javascript app written using Babel and NodeJS. The build was designed to automatically check for and download the latest version of all packages with NPM before building. After the inevitable swath of updates, things were so broken beyond repair that even re-installing all the packages didn't fix the build system. The only way I was able to get anything to build again was by resetting my VM image and reinstalling from scratch. Do the project developers seriously expect me to reinstall my OS every time they push out a project update? Given that this is a web app, updates happen pretty damn often!
When it comes to the point where web developers are trying to do things as root, you know this shit has gotten totally out of hand.
I'm a hardcore geek, and my sister is an average person. When she got a shiny new iPhone, we both struggled for over a half hour trying to figure out how to change the ringtone volume. Once we finally did (through trial and error) I found out there was no way to preview the volume other than to call yourself!
The UI was full of symbols that didn't even remotely resemble everyday objects and there were no text labels. Yes, regardless of technical experience, just changing the volume was practically impossible. I told my sister that if she had any other questions, I couldn't help her.
BTW, I've never owned an iPhone, but I have 15 years experience using Macs and have owned two. I have since sworn I will never touch an Apple product again.
Between Javascript, DOM, the complete lack of built-in libraries, and tons of terrible frameworks-of-the-month, there's nothing simple about web development.
The fact this comment was upvoted shows how out of touch the Linux community is, and why after decades of development the OS is still just a blip on the desktop radar. Lack of software is the result of Linux's market share, not the cause.
Since when does "show suggestions" equate to "automatically install?"
I'm familiar with the Candy Crush incident. It's worth noting that Window10 doesn't just show it in the Start menu, it actually does install the whole game, and you have to change registry settings to keep the game from being automatically re-installed if you delete it. At least, that was the case a year ago. Maybe Microsoft eventually backtracked since then. They do seem to change their minds whenever the hell they want.
My first experience with Windows10 was on a spare evaluation system. I ran the compatibility appraiser and it told me the machine was compatible with Windows10.
Only after the installer fully completed did it tell me that 11 applications were incompatible and were completely deleted without even a warning, let along asking permission. Also, I had no sound or network access. Some compatibility appraiser!
I had to install a few packages on Debian to build a Javascript app with Babel and NodeJS. The build went fine, other than me having to install NodeJS Legacy instead of the regular package for some idiotic reason. A few weeks later, I updated the OS, and the project wouldn't build anymore since there were package version conflicts. I spent more than a day trying to update all the packages required for the build and... eventually everything was so massively broken, with conflicts and errors everywhere that I had no choice but to wipe out the OS, reinstall everything from scratch, install all the packages again and try again. Then everything worked.
Being only a casual Linux guy who runs the OS in a VM when I need it, I didn't bother spending hours trying to figure out what went wrong. 15 years of trying various distros has always left me running back to Windows because of crap like this (the kind of crap Linux people insist doesn't exist / is no longer an issue).
BTW, I'd really like to know why the Debian people decided to rename NodeJS to just Node. It took me quite a while to figure out why NodeJS didn't exist after having installed the package. Renaming the main executable for no damn reason will do that!
Also the reason why young people don't understand what this DRM/ownership fuss is about, while us old fogies understand all too well. My Amiga 1200 still works perfectly, and I haven't even had to reinstall the OS once since I bought it back in '92.
But, hey, we're just dinosaurs who are scared of change. What do we know?
AI doesn't have to be as good as humans. It just has to be "good enough" for the price.
I know building AI-driven robots is hard, but if a machine works 24/7 for no pay, and you have have dozens of them for the same price as a single human, I'm sure a few limitations or glitches won't stop businesses from eliminating every profit-sucking meatbag they can.
This is similar to an engineering exercise my dad told me about.
A company trainer asked a room full of engineers to build a bridge for automobiles to pass over a small river, and provided little information other than some landscape properties. Almost everyone began sketching out basic designs and thinking on their own. One of the engineers asked for more information, and was provided with a full set of blueprints. The lesson was about communication, not engineering.
It seems that asking for as much information as possible would be obvious, but in the real world it's remarkable how many people fail the test, either because they are too independent or write off the customer as being too stupid to know what they really want.
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I've noticed that every pizza parlor I go to never uses a conventional oven. They use a conveyor belt that runs at just the right speed. Really, they would just need to get robots to stretch the dough and put on the toppings -- the cooking is already down pat.
Professional chefs cook hamburger patties in an oven, not on a grill. As you said, a patty toaster oven makes a lot more sense, and would make it easier to produce items to order, eliminating the problem of having to store burgers under a hot lamp.
Making a robot that flips patties is either a publicity stunt or a stop-gap measure, so no surprise it hasn't immediately lived up to expectations.
It depends on how seriously the company takes consistency and sanitation when they order the robots they want. Most food assembly lines use cameras to check items for faults, and they can do so much more reliably than people, let alone dozens of times faster. Yes, employees still tear down and clean the machines, but if a weird spot is detected on a pizza crust or that potato chip is burnt or too small, a quick blast of air will shoo it off the belt.
Eventually, I expect fast food robots to do the same. People don't expect fast food to be high in quality, but consistency is paramount. Cameras and other sensors will eventually be able to detect crust, mold, and flattened buns -- let alone rats.
In an environment like that, there's no reason to promote a new version, so why spend money on a marketing campaign?
Likely the same reason Coca Cola does. Advertising products that don't need to be advertised may be a war of diminishing returns, but every last bit still counts.
I wonder if it really can protect against Trojans or malware.
Sure it can. Anything Microsoft doesn't want.
The problem with forking should be obvious: community fragmentation and politics that turns everything into a clusterfuck. Continuous forking is an indication of a sick community. If you switch to the fork, the likely outcome is that the developers will lose interest/give up at some point and you'll be left having to switch platforms over and over again.
People call every distro "Linux", but we all know that Linux-based OSes have a major branding issue, and you can never be certain what will work with what. Personally, I'm sick of asking for help with an application, only to find out the step-by-step directions apply to some distro I don't use, and I have to spend days figuring it out myself. Hence, I've been trying to switch to "Linux" for 15 years, but always go back to Windows.
We don't need to worry about Microsoft destroying Linux. Microsoft is more worried about Google; the big Linux distros are doing a fine job destroying each other.
However, as it turns out, large parts of many human jobs do not actually need intelligence and that is quite enough.
This is the important thing many people don't consider when arguing about the benefits of automation. Machines only need to be good enough at a certain price point to get all the jobs. Nobody said they have to be as good as people -- just cheap enough to be more profitable. As such, not all the tough AI problems have to be solved, just "enough" of them. That will certainly be doable in less than 50 years or whatever.
"Unforeseen"... haha.
It might be just because I'm a very kinaesthetic person, but this is something I find in general computer tech has failed to grasp: How important it is to hold something, to touch something, to feel something touching you.
Every time I read an article about Tesla, I wince. Only Silicon Valley could design a car that replaces every gauge and button with a single tablet display, and convince us it's the greatest advancement ever. Say what you want about writing down on a piece of paper, but operating a 2-ton machine at high velocities (or even enabling cruise control) isn't something that should be done with a glass display with no physical feedback.
Don't even get me started about the forklifts I used to operate at my old job. The newer computerized ones with a single joystick were impossible to drive compared to the old hydraulic models with real levers and buttons.
You've got it all wrong, dude. Mozilla is very much aware that developers need great features, so they're just forcing people to use the ultra-powerful scripting console in Web Developer mode. It's good for you! Nobody needs those fancy-pants graphical interfaces!
Heaven forbid they allow the ability to add your own buttons to the toolbar and run scripts with a click. Get to the console, you slacker.
In other news, Linux continues to be ignored by the unwashed masses for the same reasons.
The article indicates that this is part of a larger plan to reorganize the settings available to users.
In other words, very much a reason to react strongly. They're always reorganizing the things that aren't broken.
These kinds of crimes are largely done by people who are mentally disturbed and looking for fame/infamy. Not the same motivations as common criminals.
If those people find it hard to get guns, I'm sure they'll get by just fine with fire and pipe bombs.
Technically, it's "arms" ownership that's a right, not specifically guns. We're just liberal about how we hand out and enforce licenses.
This explains a lot. A couple weeks ago I was complaining about having to build a Javascript app written using Babel and NodeJS. The build was designed to automatically check for and download the latest version of all packages with NPM before building. After the inevitable swath of updates, things were so broken beyond repair that even re-installing all the packages didn't fix the build system. The only way I was able to get anything to build again was by resetting my VM image and reinstalling from scratch. Do the project developers seriously expect me to reinstall my OS every time they push out a project update? Given that this is a web app, updates happen pretty damn often!
When it comes to the point where web developers are trying to do things as root, you know this shit has gotten totally out of hand.
I'm a hardcore geek, and my sister is an average person. When she got a shiny new iPhone, we both struggled for over a half hour trying to figure out how to change the ringtone volume. Once we finally did (through trial and error) I found out there was no way to preview the volume other than to call yourself!
The UI was full of symbols that didn't even remotely resemble everyday objects and there were no text labels. Yes, regardless of technical experience, just changing the volume was practically impossible. I told my sister that if she had any other questions, I couldn't help her.
BTW, I've never owned an iPhone, but I have 15 years experience using Macs and have owned two. I have since sworn I will never touch an Apple product again.
Regulations?! Getcher big-ass gubmint out of mah computer! Free markit!
Several channels I used to watch have moved exclusively to YouTube Red. There's no option to see the content with ads.
Between Javascript, DOM, the complete lack of built-in libraries, and tons of terrible frameworks-of-the-month, there's nothing simple about web development.
Availability != simplicity
Yes, Linux is zero cost.
The fact this comment was upvoted shows how out of touch the Linux community is, and why after decades of development the OS is still just a blip on the desktop radar. Lack of software is the result of Linux's market share, not the cause.
Since when does "show suggestions" equate to "automatically install?"
I'm familiar with the Candy Crush incident. It's worth noting that Window10 doesn't just show it in the Start menu, it actually does install the whole game, and you have to change registry settings to keep the game from being automatically re-installed if you delete it. At least, that was the case a year ago. Maybe Microsoft eventually backtracked since then. They do seem to change their minds whenever the hell they want.
My first experience with Windows10 was on a spare evaluation system. I ran the compatibility appraiser and it told me the machine was compatible with Windows10.
Only after the installer fully completed did it tell me that 11 applications were incompatible and were completely deleted without even a warning, let along asking permission. Also, I had no sound or network access. Some compatibility appraiser!
*raises hand*
I had to install a few packages on Debian to build a Javascript app with Babel and NodeJS. The build went fine, other than me having to install NodeJS Legacy instead of the regular package for some idiotic reason. A few weeks later, I updated the OS, and the project wouldn't build anymore since there were package version conflicts. I spent more than a day trying to update all the packages required for the build and... eventually everything was so massively broken, with conflicts and errors everywhere that I had no choice but to wipe out the OS, reinstall everything from scratch, install all the packages again and try again. Then everything worked.
Being only a casual Linux guy who runs the OS in a VM when I need it, I didn't bother spending hours trying to figure out what went wrong. 15 years of trying various distros has always left me running back to Windows because of crap like this (the kind of crap Linux people insist doesn't exist / is no longer an issue).
BTW, I'd really like to know why the Debian people decided to rename NodeJS to just Node. It took me quite a while to figure out why NodeJS didn't exist after having installed the package. Renaming the main executable for no damn reason will do that!
Same thing after WWI, because by then, the new experimental machines didn't really have to work well.
There's never a good or bad time for a fuckup. SSDD!
Also the reason why young people don't understand what this DRM/ownership fuss is about, while us old fogies understand all too well. My Amiga 1200 still works perfectly, and I haven't even had to reinstall the OS once since I bought it back in '92.
But, hey, we're just dinosaurs who are scared of change. What do we know?
AI doesn't have to be as good as humans. It just has to be "good enough" for the price.
I know building AI-driven robots is hard, but if a machine works 24/7 for no pay, and you have have dozens of them for the same price as a single human, I'm sure a few limitations or glitches won't stop businesses from eliminating every profit-sucking meatbag they can.
This is similar to an engineering exercise my dad told me about.
A company trainer asked a room full of engineers to build a bridge for automobiles to pass over a small river, and provided little information other than some landscape properties. Almost everyone began sketching out basic designs and thinking on their own. One of the engineers asked for more information, and was provided with a full set of blueprints. The lesson was about communication, not engineering.
It seems that asking for as much information as possible would be obvious, but in the real world it's remarkable how many people fail the test, either because they are too independent or write off the customer as being too stupid to know what they really want.