I may not agree with your point but I find it heartening that you werent modded to a crisp given the high probability of a large harry potter fan moderator demographic and the tendancy for people to mod their opinions not objectively.
I see what you mean, I just always categorized anything that had absolutely 0 discrete impact on anyone but the individuals consenting to the behaviour as not involving morality to begin with.
So you would say that a persons concept as to what his Rights are have nothing to do with morality? What "immoral" act does not infringe on a alleged "Right"?
Or grab an instrument and start torturing it until music comes out.
Music is a lot older than technology or corporations. I somehow doubt that the choice would EVER be reduced to RIAA crap or silence, but more RIAA crap or that local dude who is really into his work.
This type of backup is nothing new, a provider here in canada has had this style of application for backing up contact lists for over a year now for certain handsets. The convenience of a contact list (read: the inconvenience of losing it) is one of the retention techniques used in the industry here in canada, and i'm sure it is the same in the states. I somehow doubt that having the contacts stored by the provider themselves is going to be at all useful EXCEPT for one specific case: You lose/destroy/etc your device and are getting a hardware upgrade through your existing provider or purchasing out of pocket FOR the existing provider.
Blaming users own inability to herd data securely is a severely weak excuse for removing the one nearly-universal method of accessing the phone's data. What these companies want is to remove any and all data transfers that are not through their own data networks. Why would you want your customer to back up his own information when you can retain control of said information? Why would you want a customer to find a way to upload mp3's directly to their mp3 enabled phone instead of using their mobile browser store?
The rational for this is obvious, and the only sad thing is that the corporate clients are not the ones who will feel the pain. Once it becomes a "Standard" to not have USB file transfers, its the CONSUMERS who are going to find themselves limited to their provider for any and all data transfers (check data plan rates recently? if you do not REALLY need them they're quite the thorn to the side).
This smells to me like a prelude to DRM type control approached from a different angle. Instead of putting the content control in the content, its in controlling delivery methods.
Really? So that makes Canada Bizarro-America where being polite and tolerating/caring about the truth arent mutually exclusive?
Pretty sure that being polite has absolutely NOTHING to do with a lack of tolerance or hostility towards truth that challenges ones viewpoint; Those traits are the inverse of being polite. Do not confuse being prudish with being polite as prudes are specifically intolerant by definition whereas being tolerant is usually considered a part of being polite.
Of course, let's not let facts get in the way of Bush Bashing. Of course we wont. Someone doing something like this in the past already MADE the mistakes. Repeating them is even worse.
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Ahh, not really an equivalent good when you put it that way. Companies DO have to set up their own host for published documents. The changes made ARE live as far as I know, can be references from multiple sheets/books, and has a fairly simple and so-far-hasnt-kicked-anyone-i-know-in-the-throat type version control.
Seems the major difference is Cost of Operating the host (including MS License fun) versus Desire for exclusive control over the documents themselves (as in physically). Guess it depends on peoples priorities, paranoias, and problems.
Granted I obviously am not one who knows even most of the in's and out's let alone all, and I may have missed your point entirely as far as I know.
Hasn't Excel had that for several years now through web-published sheets and sharing controls?
Seriously, I'm not much of an Office user nor do I use Google Apps. Is there something new or different about the way google does it, beyond the just 1 calorie, not evil enough difference?
Work for ANY cellphone customer service group or subcontractor. You'll see that the procedures are nearly fine tuned to keep the customer in a run around (well, here in canada at least where our Consumer "Protection" just requires companies to keep a client confused for at least 90 days from the invoiced mistake to be able to claim the charges are valid). The question I would have, is how many of these so called "bad" customers were calling due to billing issues, and how many of them were actually valid issues.
When i worked cellphone cs the number of times you'd run into an account where a person was told numerous things as resolutions, had the resolutions NOTED TO THE ACCOUNT, and yet had to go through a whole new complain->manager->retention bullshittery due to changes in policies was NOT a small percentage.
BRIAN:
Look! I can explain! I--
[smack] JUDITH:
No! Let me explain, Mrs. Cohen! MANDY:
Who-- JUDITH:
Your son is a born leader. Those people out there are following him because they believe in him, Mrs. Cohen. They believe he can give them hope-- hope of a new life, a new world, a better future! MANDY:
Who's that?! BRIAN:
Oh! That's... Judith, Mum. Judith. Mother. Hmm.
[smack]
Aaaah!
I dunno, Music from the UK has historically been of substance. Just because they end up also getting the same crap we export from north america too, don't blame them for it =).
Perhaps not, they've had time to review the mistakes of the past long long ago. You'll have to catch it under construction, blow up the shield generator.
And if they start focusing unknown weapons of hip-hop music, be sure to shout "ITS A RAP"
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I may not agree with your point but I find it heartening that you werent modded to a crisp given the high probability of a large harry potter fan moderator demographic and the tendancy for people to mod their opinions not objectively.
Woah, didnt even notice that fact. Touche mon calibre.
Moral of the story: Sometimes things happen that are completely unrelated to ones inputs =)
Wouldnt a timestamp on any GDS article pooch the whole affair for prior art given the timing of this patent?
Even if they were using Radar guidance it looks like these drones have a small enough profile to make tracking sketchy at best to begin with.
This sounds spot on the nose; I could see microsoft salivating over the idea of marketing a version of windows as "free" as in "free cell phone"...
I see what you mean, I just always categorized anything that had absolutely 0 discrete impact on anyone but the individuals consenting to the behaviour as not involving morality to begin with.
So you would say that a persons concept as to what his Rights are have nothing to do with morality? What "immoral" act does not infringe on a alleged "Right"?
Or grab an instrument and start torturing it until music comes out.
Music is a lot older than technology or corporations. I somehow doubt that the choice would EVER be reduced to RIAA crap or silence, but more RIAA crap or that local dude who is really into his work.
Ahh the cellphone industry.
This type of backup is nothing new, a provider here in canada has had this style of application for backing up contact lists for over a year now for certain handsets. The convenience of a contact list (read: the inconvenience of losing it) is one of the retention techniques used in the industry here in canada, and i'm sure it is the same in the states. I somehow doubt that having the contacts stored by the provider themselves is going to be at all useful EXCEPT for one specific case: You lose/destroy/etc your device and are getting a hardware upgrade through your existing provider or purchasing out of pocket FOR the existing provider.
Blaming users own inability to herd data securely is a severely weak excuse for removing the one nearly-universal method of accessing the phone's data. What these companies want is to remove any and all data transfers that are not through their own data networks. Why would you want your customer to back up his own information when you can retain control of said information? Why would you want a customer to find a way to upload mp3's directly to their mp3 enabled phone instead of using their mobile browser store?
The rational for this is obvious, and the only sad thing is that the corporate clients are not the ones who will feel the pain. Once it becomes a "Standard" to not have USB file transfers, its the CONSUMERS who are going to find themselves limited to their provider for any and all data transfers (check data plan rates recently? if you do not REALLY need them they're quite the thorn to the side).
This smells to me like a prelude to DRM type control approached from a different angle. Instead of putting the content control in the content, its in controlling delivery methods.
Really? So that makes Canada Bizarro-America where being polite and tolerating/caring about the truth arent mutually exclusive?
Pretty sure that being polite has absolutely NOTHING to do with a lack of tolerance or hostility towards truth that challenges ones viewpoint; Those traits are the inverse of being polite. Do not confuse being prudish with being polite as prudes are specifically intolerant by definition whereas being tolerant is usually considered a part of being polite.
I'll believe that when me shit turns purple, and smells like rainbow sherbet.
Yet.
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Ahh, not really an equivalent good when you put it that way. Companies DO have to set up their own host for published documents. The changes made ARE live as far as I know, can be references from multiple sheets/books, and has a fairly simple and so-far-hasnt-kicked-anyone-i-know-in-the-throat type version control.
Seems the major difference is Cost of Operating the host (including MS License fun) versus Desire for exclusive control over the documents themselves (as in physically). Guess it depends on peoples priorities, paranoias, and problems.
Granted I obviously am not one who knows even most of the in's and out's let alone all, and I may have missed your point entirely as far as I know.
Hasn't Excel had that for several years now through web-published sheets and sharing controls?
Seriously, I'm not much of an Office user nor do I use Google Apps. Is there something new or different about the way google does it, beyond the just 1 calorie, not evil enough difference?
Work for ANY cellphone customer service group or subcontractor. You'll see that the procedures are nearly fine tuned to keep the customer in a run around (well, here in canada at least where our Consumer "Protection" just requires companies to keep a client confused for at least 90 days from the invoiced mistake to be able to claim the charges are valid). The question I would have, is how many of these so called "bad" customers were calling due to billing issues, and how many of them were actually valid issues.
When i worked cellphone cs the number of times you'd run into an account where a person was told numerous things as resolutions, had the resolutions NOTED TO THE ACCOUNT, and yet had to go through a whole new complain->manager->retention bullshittery due to changes in policies was NOT a small percentage.
BRIAN:
Look! I can explain! I--
[smack]
JUDITH:
No! Let me explain, Mrs. Cohen!
MANDY:
Who--
JUDITH:
Your son is a born leader. Those people out there are following him because they believe in him, Mrs. Cohen. They believe he can give them hope-- hope of a new life, a new world, a better future!
MANDY:
Who's that?!
BRIAN:
Oh! That's... Judith, Mum. Judith. Mother. Hmm.
[smack]
Aaaah!
Just one calorie. Not evil enough.
so wait...
DO you know the muffin man?
I dunno, Music from the UK has historically been of substance. Just because they end up also getting the same crap we export from north america too, don't blame them for it =).
Perhaps not, they've had time to review the mistakes of the past long long ago. You'll have to catch it under construction, blow up the shield generator.
And if they start focusing unknown weapons of hip-hop music, be sure to shout "ITS A RAP"