As someone who used to be a network architect in a Tier 1 global telco I can say only two words: Utter bollocks. Get a clue would ya?.
Traffic is carried between two autonomous systems on the Internet if there is a transit or peering agreement. In your example either Covad or Comcast is paying for transit from AT&T. Otherwise they will not get the routing table entries for each other. AT&T is definitely not doing it for free. If Covad and Comcast were directly connected it could have been either a peering agreement under which they exchange traffic at no cost to each other or once again a transit (one of the buying from the other).
What is happening here and what Net neutrality is all about is that in the US the public peering points used to be run by big telcos like MCI (f.e MAE East or MAE West). MCI and friends deliberately made them suck really bad around 7 years ago so that people switch to buying transit. The telcos themselves switched to private peering agreements. Thus, the tier 1 cartel creation was complete (it started to coalesce around 3-4 years prior to that). As a result in the US an ISP like the ones you mention usually has 2-3 transit connections for which it pays and very few private peerings where it exchanges traffic.
Compared to that in EU a similar ISP has 2-3 transit connections and 20-30+ peering agreements across public peering points. The private peerings can be counted on the fingers of one hand. This changes the overall traffic pattern considerably and most of the traffic is going across peering points not across a tier 1 telco like AT&T. As a collegue of mine jokingly put it a few years back: "The UK Internet backbone consists of one floor in a building in Docklands". In other words the Linx has become the backbone. As a result the transit ISPs can no longer hold their customers for ransom with QoS threats the way the Tier 1 cartel is doing it in the US.
Futher to that, the fix for the no-net-neutrality is trivial. Someone with the resources to do this who does not have the conflict of interest (the way MCI used to) should reestablish the public peering points and run them using the same model and rules as the successfull ones on this side of the pond like Linx, DGIX, etc. The resources to run this are a drop in the ocean for the likes of Google and Yahoo and it will restore the healthy network economics in less then half a year. In fact it will be cheaper than moaning and trying to graft congresskriters.
And if they do not do this the telcos will get them by their balls and their wallets will quickly follow. Frankly, I would be surprised if we do not see Google Peering or Yahoo Peering by the end of the year
There is always the alternative of google to stop moaning, get their head out of their arse and put their money where their mouth is by creating the next Google product: Google Peering
The only reason for no-net-neutrality being a threat in the US is the fact that there is no US public peering left. The tier 1 cartel peers between themselves and does not allow anyone in. As a result an average small ISP as well as all content providers in the US has 2 uplinks to two providers and that is it. An average small ISP and all content providers in the EU has 2 uplinks and 30+ peering agreements across the Linx, Belgix, DGIX, etc. All of these are less congested than an average US private peering.
As a result, while the tier 1s would like to pressure the content providers the same way, they lack the leverage as they do not have full control over the net
So all Google (and the other winnie moaners) need to do is reestablish public peering in the US and run it properly (subcontract it to Linx to do it if they do not have the brains). Alternatively the Tier 1 cartel will take them by the balls and their wallets will follow
You hit the nail on the head: This sort of thing is supposed to be taken care of by peering agreements.
You are absolutely right. It is taken care by peering agreements. In the rest of the world. In the US the telco's killed the peering points 5-6 years ago to be replaced by private peering between the tier 1 cartels.
An average EU national non-tier 1 ISP has 2-3 upstream transit connections and 30+ peers. An comparable US ISP has 2 upstream connections and that is it.
Net Neutrality in the US is dead and has been dead for 5+ years now. The net is already operated by a bandit cartel and instead of moaning Google should start operating peering points on the model of the UK Linx, Belgix, DGIX, etc. This will put the net back in order in 6 months or less. It has the resources to do that so it should put its money where its mouth is.
It has some hair so it is not the absolute solution. It is considerably less messy than a persian or angora but still can cause allergies.
By the way, no need to go that far.
Siamese do not shed a lot of hair either and they are cheaper. Based on my extremely unscientific observation of my old Siamese (it lives with my mom nowdays) they do not cause allergic reaction in many (not all) people who are supposedly allergic to cats.
They are also much more fun. Especially the males who are usually very friendly "Unix style" (Unix is userfriendly, it is just being selective who does it want to be friends with). Alternatively, if you want to have a homicidal bloodthirsty "pussy cat, kill, kill, kill" roaming the house you can get a Siamese female (the breed reputation is from them).
As a matter of fact, funnily enough, I do (my car is gas converted). The tank has better crash protection than the original car tank.
There is a difference here though.
If you hit a capacitor battery like these, the acceleration from the strike will cause a collapse of the nanotube matrix and release of energy which after a certain level will cause more energy and more and more. Classic chain reaction. It is possible to design around this but it is not going to be easy.
The main difference between this and gas is that the release is "in the holding matrix". Gas tanks do not have that (except some varieties used for storing hydrogen).
You either deform the tank or puncture it. If you puncture it, the gas leaks from the puncture sometimes forming a nice flame in the process. It does not blow up though. In order to blow up you need to create a mixture with air without igniting it first and ignite it after that. This is hard to achieve with most standard gas tank designs.
You mean the bits flying out of it after you smash it.
One major difference between a capacitor and a battery is that the battery energy release rate on smashing it is limited by the rate of the chemical reaction. The energy release rate for this type of capacitor isn't.
So the rigging charge cells into improvised bombs described in many Sci-Fi novels is just about to become a reality.
I would second that for a b/g/n case. Even in a quiet business park in the middle of nowhere, no interference from neighbours and a controlled and monitored installation you will get some problems once in a while.
The most common one is the cheapskate idiot with the home ad-hoc network connection configured turning on his laptop in the office. He walks in and 3 channels (the one configured and the two adjacent) are out.
Add to that some bad bluetooth implementations, leaky microwaves, etc and you are stuffed.
Now, 802.11a is another beast. It is licensed so you are not likely to get interference from an ad-hoc cretin who is too cheap to go and buy himself an accesspoint. And even for (a) you may have an outage once in a while.
Category one: dilbert-wolly-like characters with an average of 3.5 kids, a wife firmly on TCP (tea, coffee and prosac) and the budget in the red. You are absolutely right about these.
Category two: If we continue the dilbertian analogy that shall be an Alice if she had an "equal" husband. These are considerably tougher than a single person as far as being "broken in" by an PHB is concerned. The reason is quite simple - two breadwinners in the family. If one is out of a job the family can continue to function. Depending on your lifestyle this can even be for an indefinite period of time. That is not the case for a single person. In fact the single person is usually as vulnerable to being fired as the already mentionned wolly with a wife on TCP.
Your argument is usually refferred to as the Torquemada argument (I mentioned him on purpose in the original post).
He was one of the staunchest supporter of the absolute and standard moral. So he forced his understanding of the moral righteousness on everybody who disagreed. One million jews, 2.7 million dutch "heretics", you name it. They all were made to comply with the absolute moral.
What is moral for a taleban is not necessarily moral for the rest of the world and vice versa.
For example, some people consider forcing religious beliefs on children immoral. People should be left to chose what they believe in once they are capable of choosing it.
Similarly, some people do not see anything immoral in harvesting stem cells from an entity without a functioning brain. It is the capability to think, rationalise and be aware of its surroundings which differentiates a human being from a cluster of cells. If an entity does not have this capability it is not a human yet or it is not a human any longer.
The biggest atrocities in the history of mankind have been committed in the name of absolute morality. Torquemada is just one example. Many others.
I am aware of this report. Why don't you quote some of the other material on the subject (including some from Amnesty international sources) which details the use of prisoners for organ, cell and tissue harvesting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4921 116.stm
So on so fourth. By the way the situation today is not any different. Also, while China is a 1billion+ population the speed with which they match donors is beyond suspicious. Combined with the number of crimes punishable with death this brings some extremely interesting thoughts to my mind. And not only mine...
As a matter of fact IBM used to make similar noises 2-3 years ago especially regarding the Stinkpad including disbanding completely the desktop/laptop Linux team on at least one occasion (and it quietly reappearing later on).
So as far as policy - nothing new here, move along. We 've all seen that.
As far as business development they will get steamrolled into supporting Red Flag Linux by the Chinese Govt do they like it or not for a similar reason to the one quoted by many other posters: "Windows is much easier to bug".
If they do not they will lose on their home market and it is growing at much higher rate compared to the US.
95+% of the people around you do not. They think that you are crazy. In some jobs sectors it is consirered to be essential to maintain some "class" and it may be very detrimental to your career to be different. Most of banking, finances and consluttancies are angaged in an endless penis measurement contest and it takes some guts and thinking to avoid getting into it or maintain financial discipline. This is especially true if you are a few steps above the bottom of the corporate ladder, high enough for the penis measurement to be in full swing, but too low to have the finances to afford it.
So as a matter of fact, the culture of the industry sector and the employer need to be taken into account when looking at a salary. 50Kpounds in a "plain IT" or "plain Telecoms" in old Blighty are a reasonable amount of money. 50Kpounds in the banking industry or most consluttancies are peanuts. You will either have to stay one payment away from being thrown out onto the street or you will have to cut somewhere on the "perceived class". In the latter case you essentially volunatrily put yourself on the list of the "first ones to go when the times get tough".
China executes over 10,000 people a year in an undocumented fashion
Why undocumented. It is documented. It is in the clinical pathology and surgery manuals under the sections related to stem cell harvesting, gland harvesting and organ harvesting.
Indeed. The dating is completely arbitrary. All that we know is that it is not very old.
It may in fact end up being simultaneous with Chicxulub which by most recent estimates was not enough in itself to kill of the dinosaurs. Something else helped it.
So the "mummy dinosaur says to toddler dinosaur: what goes around comes around" joke will have to wait for now.
There are also some obvious ways to build on this draft as far as trust chain management, but it will be better if they do not get in the draft and the draft is accepted "as is" for now. All other reasons aside, better to have an RFC to build on instead of having another draft-martini where there are 10 RFCs out before the original draft settles.
So to summarise the original article is an absolute POS. The person writing it did not even bother to check if the work is being done by someone else and if there is someone big enough out there using it (yahoo).
Speaking as an MSc in chemistry I would second that.
An average household is full of dangerous chemicals even if you do not meddle with DIY. If you do it is outright dangerous. It is better if people know how dangerous it is and do not scaremonger about a harmless chemistry kit.
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Internet has not been single tiered since a few months after it has been commercialised in first place.
The tiers have shifted and moved along. Some providers over the years have managed to claw their ways to Tier 1 status. Some (very few) have fallen out of Tier 1, but the net has never been neutral.
Similarly, all neutrality proposals you see on Slashdot and elsewhere are absolutely bogus. The only real neutrality proposal will be the establishment of a regulated non-profit neutral institution to maintain 3+ neutral peering points in the US and all Tier 1s to be mandated to peer with anyone present at at least 2 peering points and not contend their links into the peering points above a ratio mandated via regulation.
Now that is something that will make them scream. Any other piece of legislation will not. They will just smile and move along.
I had 11 years of sendmail, qmail and exim admin, software development and design experience for an edu, isp and a corp before surrendering and buying the 3rd Bat in June last year.
And guess what - it made a difference.
It is not a good book. Not at all. I will never give it 5 stars on amazon for example. 2 and a half at most.
None the less, it shows the reasons behind many of the ideas in sendmail.
As such it has no replacement and is essential if you want to manage sendmail in a large installation.
I agree - the problem should be bombed into oblivion. Bombed with aid. Bombed with education. Bombed with donations for worthy causes - hospitals, water, schools, preservation of national heritage, museums, etc.
And the problem will not go away anytime soon until this is done.
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As someone who used to be a network architect in a Tier 1 global telco I can say only two words: Utter bollocks. Get a clue would ya?.
Traffic is carried between two autonomous systems on the Internet if there is a transit or peering agreement. In your example either Covad or Comcast is paying for transit from AT&T. Otherwise they will not get the routing table entries for each other. AT&T is definitely not doing it for free. If Covad and Comcast were directly connected it could have been either a peering agreement under which they exchange traffic at no cost to each other or once again a transit (one of the buying from the other).
What is happening here and what Net neutrality is all about is that in the US the public peering points used to be run by big telcos like MCI (f.e MAE East or MAE West). MCI and friends deliberately made them suck really bad around 7 years ago so that people switch to buying transit. The telcos themselves switched to private peering agreements. Thus, the tier 1 cartel creation was complete (it started to coalesce around 3-4 years prior to that). As a result in the US an ISP like the ones you mention usually has 2-3 transit connections for which it pays and very few private peerings where it exchanges traffic.
Compared to that in EU a similar ISP has 2-3 transit connections and 20-30+ peering agreements across public peering points. The private peerings can be counted on the fingers of one hand. This changes the overall traffic pattern considerably and most of the traffic is going across peering points not across a tier 1 telco like AT&T. As a collegue of mine jokingly put it a few years back: "The UK Internet backbone consists of one floor in a building in Docklands". In other words the Linx has become the backbone. As a result the transit ISPs can no longer hold their customers for ransom with QoS threats the way the Tier 1 cartel is doing it in the US.
Futher to that, the fix for the no-net-neutrality is trivial. Someone with the resources to do this who does not have the conflict of interest (the way MCI used to) should reestablish the public peering points and run them using the same model and rules as the successfull ones on this side of the pond like Linx, DGIX, etc. The resources to run this are a drop in the ocean for the likes of Google and Yahoo and it will restore the healthy network economics in less then half a year. In fact it will be cheaper than moaning and trying to graft congresskriters.
And if they do not do this the telcos will get them by their balls and their wallets will quickly follow. Frankly, I would be surprised if we do not see Google Peering or Yahoo Peering by the end of the year
There is always the alternative of google to stop moaning, get their head out of their arse and put their money where their mouth is by creating the next Google product: Google Peering
The only reason for no-net-neutrality being a threat in the US is the fact that there is no US public peering left. The tier 1 cartel peers between themselves and does not allow anyone in. As a result an average small ISP as well as all content providers in the US has 2 uplinks to two providers and that is it. An average small ISP and all content providers in the EU has 2 uplinks and 30+ peering agreements across the Linx, Belgix, DGIX, etc. All of these are less congested than an average US private peering.
As a result, while the tier 1s would like to pressure the content providers the same way, they lack the leverage as they do not have full control over the net
So all Google (and the other winnie moaners) need to do is reestablish public peering in the US and run it properly (subcontract it to Linx to do it if they do not have the brains). Alternatively the Tier 1 cartel will take them by the balls and their wallets will follow
You are absolutely right. It is taken care by peering agreements. In the rest of the world. In the US the telco's killed the peering points 5-6 years ago to be replaced by private peering between the tier 1 cartels.
An average EU national non-tier 1 ISP has 2-3 upstream transit connections and 30+ peers. An comparable US ISP has 2 upstream connections and that is it.
Net Neutrality in the US is dead and has been dead for 5+ years now. The net is already operated by a bandit cartel and instead of moaning Google should start operating peering points on the model of the UK Linx, Belgix, DGIX, etc. This will put the net back in order in 6 months or less. It has the resources to do that so it should put its money where its mouth is.
It has some hair so it is not the absolute solution. It is considerably less messy than a persian or angora but still can cause allergies.
By the way, no need to go that far.
Siamese do not shed a lot of hair either and they are cheaper. Based on my extremely unscientific observation of my old Siamese (it lives with my mom nowdays) they do not cause allergic reaction in many (not all) people who are supposedly allergic to cats.
They are also much more fun. Especially the males who are usually very friendly "Unix style" (Unix is userfriendly, it is just being selective who does it want to be friends with). Alternatively, if you want to have a homicidal bloodthirsty "pussy cat, kill, kill, kill" roaming the house you can get a Siamese female (the breed reputation is from them).
As a matter of fact, funnily enough, I do (my car is gas converted). The tank has better crash protection than the original car tank.
There is a difference here though.
If you hit a capacitor battery like these, the acceleration from the strike will cause a collapse of the nanotube matrix and release of energy which after a certain level will cause more energy and more and more. Classic chain reaction. It is possible to design around this but it is not going to be easy.
The main difference between this and gas is that the release is "in the holding matrix". Gas tanks do not have that (except some varieties used for storing hydrogen).
You either deform the tank or puncture it. If you puncture it, the gas leaks from the puncture sometimes forming a nice flame in the process. It does not blow up though. In order to blow up you need to create a mixture with air without igniting it first and ignite it after that. This is hard to achieve with most standard gas tank designs.
You mean the bits flying out of it after you smash it.
One major difference between a capacitor and a battery is that the battery energy release rate on smashing it is limited by the rate of the chemical reaction. The energy release rate for this type of capacitor isn't.
So the rigging charge cells into improvised bombs described in many Sci-Fi novels is just about to become a reality.
I would second that for a b/g/n case. Even in a quiet business park in the middle of nowhere, no interference from neighbours and a controlled and monitored installation you will get some problems once in a while.
The most common one is the cheapskate idiot with the home ad-hoc network connection configured turning on his laptop in the office. He walks in and 3 channels (the one configured and the two adjacent) are out.
Add to that some bad bluetooth implementations, leaky microwaves, etc and you are stuffed.
Now, 802.11a is another beast. It is licensed so you are not likely to get interference from an ad-hoc cretin who is too cheap to go and buy himself an accesspoint. And even for (a) you may have an outage once in a while.
Do not worry. They will not.
The only reason UWB has even started being considered by regulators in most countries was the assumption that it will be limited to a line of sight.
UWB that goes through walls will make all the early fears resurface once more and delay regulatory approval for UWB where necessary.
Frankly some of the pushers of competing tech like 802.11n should invest into this technology ASAP.
There are two types of married people.
Category one: dilbert-wolly-like characters with an average of 3.5 kids, a wife firmly on TCP (tea, coffee and prosac) and the budget in the red. You are absolutely right about these.
Category two: If we continue the dilbertian analogy that shall be an Alice if she had an "equal" husband. These are considerably tougher than a single person as far as being "broken in" by an PHB is concerned. The reason is quite simple - two breadwinners in the family. If one is out of a job the family can continue to function. Depending on your lifestyle this can even be for an indefinite period of time. That is not the case for a single person. In fact the single person is usually as vulnerable to being fired as the already mentionned wolly with a wife on TCP.
Your argument is usually refferred to as the Torquemada argument (I mentioned him on purpose in the original post).
He was one of the staunchest supporter of the absolute and standard moral. So he forced his understanding of the moral righteousness on everybody who disagreed. One million jews, 2.7 million dutch "heretics", you name it. They all were made to comply with the absolute moral.
Through fire.
Absobloodilutely. For every given value of "MINE" in the whole 6 billion set available. A.
That depends on the point of view.
Morals are relative.
What is moral for a taleban is not necessarily moral for the rest of the world and vice versa.
For example, some people consider forcing religious beliefs on children immoral. People should be left to chose what they believe in once they are capable of choosing it.
Similarly, some people do not see anything immoral in harvesting stem cells from an entity without a functioning brain. It is the capability to think, rationalise and be aware of its surroundings which differentiates a human being from a cluster of cells. If an entity does not have this capability it is not a human yet or it is not a human any longer.
The biggest atrocities in the history of mankind have been committed in the name of absolute morality. Torquemada is just one example. Many others.
Jolly good idea if your wife is a stay at home mom. Or a waitress. Or a receptionist. Or a data entry clerk.
I cannot really see this if your wife somebody, a professional in her own right.
No damn way in hell if she is at your level or higher in her profession and her profession is different from yours so they cannot hire her.
Yeah... Dream on... Bollocks...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1412 467.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4921 116.stm
So on so fourth. By the way the situation today is not any different. Also, while China is a 1billion+ population the speed with which they match donors is beyond suspicious. Combined with the number of crimes punishable with death this brings some extremely interesting thoughts to my mind. And not only mine...
I will second that.
As a matter of fact IBM used to make similar noises 2-3 years ago especially regarding the Stinkpad including disbanding completely the desktop/laptop Linux team on at least one occasion (and it quietly reappearing later on).
So as far as policy - nothing new here, move along. We 've all seen that.
As far as business development they will get steamrolled into supporting Red Flag Linux by the Chinese Govt do they like it or not for a similar reason to the one quoted by many other posters: "Windows is much easier to bug".
If they do not they will lose on their home market and it is growing at much higher rate compared to the US.
There are some problems though.
95+% of the people around you do not. They think that you are crazy. In some jobs sectors it is consirered to be essential to maintain some "class" and it may be very detrimental to your career to be different. Most of banking, finances and consluttancies are angaged in an endless penis measurement contest and it takes some guts and thinking to avoid getting into it or maintain financial discipline. This is especially true if you are a few steps above the bottom of the corporate ladder, high enough for the penis measurement to be in full swing, but too low to have the finances to afford it.
So as a matter of fact, the culture of the industry sector and the employer need to be taken into account when looking at a salary. 50Kpounds in a "plain IT" or "plain Telecoms" in old Blighty are a reasonable amount of money. 50Kpounds in the banking industry or most consluttancies are peanuts. You will either have to stay one payment away from being thrown out onto the street or you will have to cut somewhere on the "perceived class". In the latter case you essentially volunatrily put yourself on the list of the "first ones to go when the times get tough".
Why undocumented. It is documented. It is in the clinical pathology and surgery manuals under the sections related to stem cell harvesting, gland harvesting and organ harvesting.
Indeed. The dating is completely arbitrary. All that we know is that it is not very old.
It may in fact end up being simultaneous with Chicxulub which by most recent estimates was not enough in itself to kill of the dinosaurs. Something else helped it.
So the "mummy dinosaur says to toddler dinosaur: what goes around comes around" joke will have to wait for now.
PGP is close, but no cigar as it works at MUA, not MTA level.
d omainkeys-base-04.txt is a much closer approximation of what is needed here as it also describes the way this fits at the MTA level.
The domainkeys draft: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-delany-
There are also some obvious ways to build on this draft as far as trust chain management, but it will be better if they do not get in the draft and the draft is accepted "as is" for now. All other reasons aside, better to have an RFC to build on instead of having another draft-martini where there are 10 RFCs out before the original draft settles.
So to summarise the original article is an absolute POS. The person writing it did not even bother to check if the work is being done by someone else and if there is someone big enough out there using it (yahoo).
Is your tub cooled down to 4C and at 20+bar pressure?
IIRC that was what took methane to become gas-hidrate.
Speaking as an MSc in chemistry I would second that.
An average household is full of dangerous chemicals even if you do not meddle with DIY. If you do it is outright dangerous. It is better if people know how dangerous it is and do not scaremonger about a harmless chemistry kit.
And this is exactly the reason why the guy who posted all this crap is being investigated by the police. Check the register for details: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/31/ebay_lapto p_site/
There are Tier 1 ISPs and all the rest.
Internet has not been single tiered since a few months after it has been commercialised in first place.
The tiers have shifted and moved along. Some providers over the years have managed to claw their ways to Tier 1 status. Some (very few) have fallen out of Tier 1, but the net has never been neutral.
Similarly, all neutrality proposals you see on Slashdot and elsewhere are absolutely bogus. The only real neutrality proposal will be the establishment of a regulated non-profit neutral institution to maintain 3+ neutral peering points in the US and all Tier 1s to be mandated to peer with anyone present at at least 2 peering points and not contend their links into the peering points above a ratio mandated via regulation.
Now that is something that will make them scream. Any other piece of legislation will not. They will just smile and move along.
I had 11 years of sendmail, qmail and exim admin, software development and design experience for an edu, isp and a corp before surrendering and buying the 3rd Bat in June last year.
And guess what - it made a difference.
It is not a good book. Not at all. I will never give it 5 stars on amazon for example. 2 and a half at most.
None the less, it shows the reasons behind many of the ideas in sendmail.
As such it has no replacement and is essential if you want to manage sendmail in a large installation.
Ahem.
Where are my bloody mod points when I need them.
I agree - the problem should be bombed into oblivion. Bombed with aid. Bombed with education. Bombed with donations for worthy causes - hospitals, water, schools, preservation of national heritage, museums, etc.
And the problem will not go away anytime soon until this is done.